1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Ridiculous crime. It's a production of iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 2: Elizabeth Oh Zaren. 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:08,559 Speaker 3: You know I saw you walk in and I was like, 4 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:10,239 Speaker 3: oh my god, I've got this question. I want to 5 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 3: ask her. Do you mind? Have you got it? A second? 6 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 2: Of course? 7 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 3: Okay? Do you know it's ridiculous. 8 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 2: I do know it's ridiculous. 9 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 3: Would you please share? 10 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 2: Yeah? I think I can do that. You're a smoothie guy, right, 11 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 2: you like smoothies. 12 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 3: Yes, it sounded weird. You're a smoothie guy. 13 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 2: You're a smoothie guy. 14 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 3: I know. I do love smoothies. 15 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, and so smoothies, there's a there's like Jamba juice. 16 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 2: You like john Ba juice. 17 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 3: I used to back when it used to be good. 18 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not good anymore. What about Smoothie King? 19 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 3: I have never actually been there that I can think of. 20 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 2: Okay, well that's ridiculous. Going forward to huh, that's what's ridiculous. Okay, 21 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 2: So a while back, we got a ton, a ton 22 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 2: a ton of messages. This is like last year about 23 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 2: something that Skittles did and I don't remember what it was. 24 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 3: This is another mash hold on. 25 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 2: It's just the messages wouldn't stop. And then a couple 26 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 2: like a week or two ago it started up again, 27 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 2: but it wasn't about skittles. Oh, It's about the King, 28 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 2: and it just we have gotten so many like Carrier 29 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 2: pigeon Instagram, email, Yeah, telegraphs. I got like a singing telegram. 30 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 2: Nice phenomenal. So anyway, everyone's told us about this, absolutely everyone, 31 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 2: which means that this episode will air and then for 32 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 2: another three months people will still tell us about it. Anyway, 33 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 2: So Smoothie King is teamed up with another brand because honey, 34 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:34,479 Speaker 2: we got ourselves a mashup. Oh yeah, although I will say, okay, 35 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 2: So friend of the Show regular messager comtruter Mark McCubbin 36 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 2: on Instagram, he sent us pictures of screen caps that 37 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 2: he took pictures of a TV screen with CNN doing 38 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 2: a piece where the Chiron said, Harry Inton breaks down 39 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 2: the food collapse that worked and didn't so and he said, like, 40 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 2: they're basically stepping on our toes. So aside from that, 41 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 2: so we're not the only mash up people in the game. 42 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 2: Whether you like it or not, I'm taking you down 43 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 2: with the ship anyway. So Smoothie King they teamed up 44 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 2: with Hines. You know what they're both food purveyors, and 45 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 2: they have a limited addition Ketchup smoothie. I was going 46 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 2: to guess ketchup smoothie. So it is a fruit. So 47 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 2: this has like a si sorbet, strawberries, raspberries, apple juice, 48 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 2: and then a whole lot of ketchup. And so it's 49 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 2: like a sweet savory thing. It's got tang to it. 50 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 2: It is. There's no artificial colors, thank goodness. But it 51 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 2: just looks like you're drinking. You're sucking on a cup 52 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 2: of ketchup. 53 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 3: I'd rather drink up a cup of actual tang the 54 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 3: old juice, fake juice. 55 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 2: Allowed to have that. 56 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 3: Tried it, but I would rather try that. 57 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I had it a couple of times 58 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:02,399 Speaker 2: and it was like, oh buddy, either way, it's five 59 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 2: dollars and seventy cents if you're into it, paying you 60 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 2: for this. Oh there they should, all these people should 61 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 2: while supplies last. It's at location Smoothieking locations in Atlanta, right, Chicago, Denver, Miami, 62 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 2: and then parts of the Greater New York area and 63 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 2: northern New Jersey. There you go and there it is. 64 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,679 Speaker 2: So if you're in those metro areas, I can get 65 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 2: some go chug a lug a ketchup smoothie. There you go, 66 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 2: and then crap yourself and hate yourself. 67 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 3: I will never understand the appeal of these mashups. 68 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 2: I know, and yet I hate. 69 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 3: Them and I can't every day. 70 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 2: You know what, you know what that is there? Ridiculous. 71 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 3: I'll give you that. 72 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you. 73 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 3: Well, I've got something that's ridiculous for you. Yeah, tell me, yeah, 74 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 3: you're ready for this? Yes, okay, Well, I know it's 75 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 3: about to be one of your favorite times of the year. 76 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 3: It's about to be the start of college football season. 77 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 2: You know, I'm just like a huge, totally I'm all football. 78 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 3: Yeah right, So I gathered up a few of my 79 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 3: favorite college football rivalries and the related high jinks that 80 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 3: are both criminal and ridiculous. Yes, college football rivalries are intense. 81 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Like we've already covered the outrageous story of 82 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 3: the Texas A and M versus Rice University one right 83 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 3: where they abducted Rice's mascot, the human Sized Hour and 84 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 3: then led to a full on military takeover of a 85 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 3: small Texas town. That's a good one. Well, this time, Elizabeth, 86 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 3: we have some equally insane college football inspired antics, not one, 87 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 3: not two, but three at least, So buckle up, Buttercup. 88 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 3: Things are about to get college football. 89 00:04:40,800 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 4: Wow, this is ridiculous Crime A podcast about absurd and 90 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 4: outrageous capers, heists, and cons. 91 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 3: It's always ninety nine percent murder, three and one hundred 92 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 3: percent ridiculous. 93 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 2: Yes. I like your sheer blue pants that you're wearing. 94 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 3: Thank you. They have a friend of mine made these. 95 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 2: They're interesting. They're very airy, very sheer. 96 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 3: Yes, you can see a lot of legs. 97 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 2: It's daring. You're brave. 98 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 3: I'm a fashion icon waiting to happen. Yeah, Elizabeth, I 99 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 3: know you lived in South Carolina for a while, which 100 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 3: means you know how huge college football is in the South. 101 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 102 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 3: I think SEC football is second in popularity only to Jesus, 103 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 3: and it's. 104 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 2: A close second. Yeah. 105 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:50,359 Speaker 3: So did you ever go to a game while you 106 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 3: were living in South Carolina? Do you ever see the 107 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 3: game Cocks? No? 108 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 2: Nope? 109 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 3: Okay, Well I got another question for you. What do 110 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 3: you know about Auburn football. 111 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 2: That's not South Carolina? 112 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 3: No, it's not. There's nothing to do with Carolina. But 113 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 3: it's in the SEC. It's Southern football. 114 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a football the. 115 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 3: University of Auburn. It's located in Auburn, Alabama, and in Bama, 116 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 3: just like in South Carolina where you were. The locals 117 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 3: love them some Auburn football. And I thought we started 118 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 3: out with a story about Auburn, you know, start at 119 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 3: the top and go down from there. Now, Elizabeth, this 120 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 3: story happened two centuries ago, two centuries way back in 121 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 3: eighteen ninety six. Well, it's two centuries ago. 122 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 2: That's not full two centuries. 123 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 3: I didn't say that two centuries ago. Twentieth century, nineteenth century. 124 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 2: Two centuries ago. I'm thinking like two hundred years ago. 125 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 3: Two hundred years ago, that's what I would have said that. 126 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 3: But two centuries ago, so November seventh, eighteen ninety six, 127 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 3: to be exact, if you want to, like, you know, 128 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 3: be able to do the math on how many centuries 129 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 3: you would count this as Now, at the time, Auburn 130 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 3: had a legendary coach by the name of John Heisman, 131 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 3: as in the coach who is the namesake of the 132 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 3: annual ward right for the best college football in the nation, 133 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 3: but the Heisman Trophy, right, yeah, yeah, Now, Heisman was 134 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 3: a wild guy, like he was this full on character. 135 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 3: I won't get too far into him, but well, for example, 136 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 3: he would shout at his players in a fake British 137 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 3: accent because he was theorized he was a huge fan 138 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 3: of Shakespeare. He just wanted to bring that Shakespearean vibe 139 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 3: to the practice. 140 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 2: Oh, elevate, elevate. 141 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 3: He was. He was quite the character. Now. Before he 142 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 3: was at Auburn, John Heisman was a coach at Oberlin College. 143 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 3: And while he was a coach there, the team's trainer 144 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 3: was a man named Clarence Hemingway. That name sounds familiar, 145 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 3: There's good reason. Clarence Hemingway was the father of the 146 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 3: world famous writer Ernest Hemingway. A lot of macho energy in. 147 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 2: This Oh my god, the testoser right. 148 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 3: Anyway, John Heisman's second season at the as the head 149 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 3: coach at Auburn was what I'm about to tell you about, 150 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 3: and he was just beginning to build his legendary career. 151 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 3: In his bona fides. Now, the sports writer Fuzzy Woodriff, 152 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 3: which is just such. 153 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 2: A per right fuzzy, especially for a sports. 154 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 3: Writer in the South. Yeah, so old Fuzzy would later 155 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 3: credit Heisman as being quote the pioneer of Southern football. 156 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 3: But he wasn't that yet. Yeah not, just by the 157 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 3: way Southern football, Heisman was one of the most innovative 158 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 3: coaches in the nation because well, as a coach, he 159 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 3: invented the tradition of a quarterback saying hike as a 160 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 3: signal to center to snap the ball. Yeah, or you 161 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 3: would say forty two blue forty blue. 162 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 163 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 3: So anyway back to this game back on November seventh, 164 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 3: eighteen ninety six. That was Auburn's first official home game ever. 165 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 3: Their opponent for their first home game was a rival 166 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 3: from Georgia, neighboring state, right, but it wasn't the Georgia Bulldogs. Instead, 167 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 3: they were facing Georgia Tech, which is from Atlanta, my 168 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 3: first hometown. Now, in their previous game, Auburn had beaten 169 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 3: a team from Mercer University to the tune of forty 170 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 3: six to zero, so they were yes, now, well, Georgia 171 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 3: Tech had faced that same team and only beaten them 172 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 3: six to four. Oh, which, if you were into football, 173 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 3: you know that means Mercer only scored two safeties. 174 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 2: I doesna say, I don't think I didn't know that 175 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 2: four was something. 176 00:08:57,720 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 3: Really hard scored. 177 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 2: Again in football, that was an accomplishment So. 178 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 3: That game had gone down on Halloween, and now basically 179 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 3: a week later, on November seventh, they're going to face 180 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 3: Auburn and coach John Heisman. Now everyone expected it to 181 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 3: be a good game, though now these last time these 182 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 3: two teams faced it was not a good game. They 183 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 3: had faced in Atlanta and Auburn beat Georgia Tech ninety 184 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 3: six to zero. 185 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 2: Wait, hold on, don't they normally now they like stop it. 186 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 2: It's too much of a massacre. You know that. 187 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 3: That's like bore at baseball. But go kids baseball where 188 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 3: they stop it onto I've seen like they'll switch away. 189 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 3: They'll switch away from the game. They will no longer 190 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 3: show it on TV. They once by four or five scores, 191 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 3: they'll often. 192 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 2: Switch away to blood bath and just let it go. 193 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 3: But this, yeah, they just let it go. You'll still 194 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 3: see crazy scores. 195 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 2: Now, what do you mean, I think it's more fun 196 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 2: to watch the Yeah. 197 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 3: Well, by the way, this ninety six to zero score, 198 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 3: it's one of the greatest most lopsided losses in college football. 199 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 2: Imagine. So I mean that's like like ninety six is 200 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 2: like basketball score. 201 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 3: Oh yes, yeah, that's it's a lot of touchdowns. Yeah, yeah, 202 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 3: now it's like basically you're scoring every time and then 203 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 3: also on defense. 204 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 205 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 3: So now at this point you better believe Georgia Tech 206 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 3: was like Liam Neeson had taken hell bent on handling 207 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 3: their business right. They wanted to get back. Trouble for 208 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 3: them was coming into this fateful eighteen ninety six game. 209 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,319 Speaker 3: Georgia Tech. Their team had no coach. 210 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 2: Zero, I like, oh, this guy's nothing there. 211 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 3: They were like the players would agree on, like what's 212 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 3: going to happen and you play safety, but you know 213 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 3: that kind of thing. 214 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 2: It was just it was a ghost. 215 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're facing the soon to be legend John 216 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 3: Heisman and Auburn, right. 217 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 2: So Heisman versus nobody. 218 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 3: Yes, exactly. No, that's it. It's not looking good for 219 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 3: old Georgia Tech. But people still thought it was gonna 220 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 3: be a good game. Don't ask me why. But what 221 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 3: no one expected was that Auburn was also ready for 222 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 3: Georgia Tech. I'm talking super ready. Like, for instance, they 223 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 3: knew exactly the overnight train that Georgia Tech's team was 224 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 3: taking to get to Auburn, so they decided to have 225 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 3: a little surprise waiting for the boys from Georgia Tech. 226 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 3: Some students from Auburn wanted to give them an unforgettable 227 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 3: welcome to Alabama, and to do that on a near 228 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 3: moonless night, they snuck down to the train station. They 229 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 3: brought with them, you know, a bunch of bacon grease 230 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 3: and lard aka pig fat. And why would they need 231 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 3: bacon grease? Great question, Elizabeth, thank you well. They proceeded 232 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 3: to grease the train tracks for the length of about 233 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 3: four football fields on either side of the train depot, 234 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,599 Speaker 3: and that would make it damn near impossible for the 235 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 3: train carrying Georgia Tech to stop. 236 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 2: What is wrong with these people? 237 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 3: You can probably guess what happened when the train would 238 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 3: Georgia Tech arrived. Yeah, that's right. When the train conductor 239 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 3: hit the brakes, the train just slid, oh completely right 240 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 3: on past the train depot. The train did not stop 241 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:41,319 Speaker 3: sliding until it was five miles past the deepot, halfway 242 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 3: to the next town. So when the train finally stopped 243 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,319 Speaker 3: sliding on the pig grease tracks, yeah, the Georgia Tech 244 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 3: players climbed down off the train and they had to 245 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 3: walk now back the five miles to Auburn, and they 246 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 3: had to carry with them all their gear and their 247 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 3: luggage and everything they brought with them. Luckily they didn't 248 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 3: have like modern football pads and helmet, but still lugging 249 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 3: their like leather head and. 250 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 2: Makes a little leather skull catch totally exactly. And then 251 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 2: like the heavy woolf sweater. 252 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 3: And then they have some slight pads that taken carry 253 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 3: with them, right, and then obviously their cleats and in 254 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 3: their luggage. So they're lugging all this through the Alabama 255 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 3: woods following these large grease railroad tracks back to Auburn. Yeah, 256 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 3: now that five mile hike was it went down just 257 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 3: before dawn, which must have been a brutal slog like 258 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 3: you're tripping on the railroad ties, you're rocking over all 259 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:27,319 Speaker 3: these little rocks. 260 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 2: Well and I just had there. 261 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 3: Wearing like leather shoes and ash. 262 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 2: Of these guys, you know, they're like they're athletic dudes, 263 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 2: but not in like what if we could take a 264 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 2: big old football player from today, sure and go back 265 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 2: in time and just kill and put them on one 266 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 2: of those teams. Yes, he'd kills something. Yes, they like 267 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 2: heads would fly on bodies. 268 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,319 Speaker 3: There are players now who are pushing four hundred over 269 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 3: four hundred. It was a big deal with a cross 270 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 3: three hundred pounds and now we're over four hundred. 271 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 2: Yes, you'd have a guy who's like seventy five and like, 272 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 2: you know, kind of nimble and light on his toe, 273 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 2: crazy legs. Yeah, you know, only smokes a pack a day. 274 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 2: And then yeah, then you get some guys all push push, 275 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 2: It just like launches them into the crowd. I would 276 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 2: like to see that, I. 277 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,199 Speaker 3: Bet you would. Apparently you're a fan of bloodshed. 278 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 2: I didn't know this about you. 279 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 3: Now, at this point, the Georgia Tech players, they didn't 280 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 3: know this was a prank. They just thought it was 281 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 3: like the train had a malfunction the brakes, so right, 282 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 3: so what At this point, they're not mad at Auburn, 283 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 3: They're just pissed at their bad luck. So they you know, 284 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 3: they couldn't even use the anger in the game. Instead, 285 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 3: they showed up back in Auburn, exhausted, irritated, and now 286 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 3: they have to play the game. As you might imagine, 287 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 3: the game later that same day did not go well 288 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 3: for Georgia Tech. They didn't score a single point. They 289 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 3: lost to Auburn forty five to zero. Oh no, meanwhile, 290 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 3: the Auburn students celebrated their lopsided victory with a parade. 291 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 3: The students wore pajamas and they marched through the streets, 292 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 3: which became a new annual tradition that was now known 293 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 3: as the Wreck Tech Jama Parade. Yes, and this continued 294 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 3: until the twenty first century to about two thousand and three. Really, 295 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 3: each year Auburn students lead a parade to the same 296 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 3: train depot and they hold a pep rally to mock 297 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 3: Georgia Tech. 298 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 2: In their pajama pajamas, the cat's pajama. 299 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 3: So that's SEC football for you. 300 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 301 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 3: The kids damn crash a train just to pull hijinks 302 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 3: against Arrival, who they destroyed the year before. 303 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 2: They could have been an absolute disaster. 304 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 3: It wasn't like they were on the losing side and 305 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 3: they needed to do the hijinks to help their team 306 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 3: get an edge. They're the bullies. 307 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 2: They're punching down. And then they punched down after Yes. 308 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 3: And they put to punch the fans. They punched their 309 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 3: mama everything. Punch your mama right the mouth. Now, Okay, 310 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 3: I got another one for you from the SEC. This 311 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 3: one's also for producer D since it features his favorite 312 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 3: college football team LSU. But first let's take a little 313 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 3: break and after these messages we'll be back with more 314 00:14:55,000 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 3: college hijinks that cross over into the ridiculously criminal. Nice, 315 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 3: we're back, Elizabeth. Hey, Hey, ready for more college football pranks. 316 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 2: It's my favorite thing in the world. 317 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, we started out with that nice Auburn amuse bousch. 318 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 3: Now we're going to get into something a little bit 319 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 3: crazier because this one takes place in the twentieth century, 320 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 3: in December of nineteen fifty. Little mid century madness for you. So, 321 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 3: a Tulane student named Norbert James, Yeah, went for a 322 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 3: coon hunt, you know, raccoon raccoon hunting, not the coon hunting. 323 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 3: A few of his fellow Tulane students, a cat named 324 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 3: Oscar Reeese, Joe Miller, and Tex Powell. 325 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 2: Okay, wow, great names. Yeah, that was right there. 326 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 3: It was the night before their big rivalry game LSU 327 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 3: versus Tulane at the Show Bowl. Now, after their coon hunt, 328 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 3: the boys stopped off at a place called College Inn 329 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 3: and that's where they noticed something strange. There was this 330 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 3: long trailer parked behind the restaurant, and the trailer had 331 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 3: a big cage on top of it. Like you'd see 332 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 3: like on a circus train. And when they crept closer, 333 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 3: they saw that inside the cage on this trailer was 334 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 3: a tiger. Oh, but not just any tiger. It was 335 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 3: Mike the Tiger, the mascot for LSU. 336 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 2: Mike, Yeah, Mike the Tiger. 337 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 3: Typically a VET student was in charge of taking care 338 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 3: of Mike the Tiger on road games, and had driven 339 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 3: Mike the Tiger down to Narlin's from Baton Rouge. Now 340 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 3: he stopped to grab a bite to eat because when 341 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 3: he arrived it was like a little past midnight, and 342 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 3: he parked behind the restaurant. And now it's around one 343 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 3: am when they find the tiger cage. 344 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 2: Mike was like, can you just go give me some chili, cheese, 345 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 2: big bowl of mels, just flipping through a magazine, waving, 346 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 2: sitting with his legs cross. 347 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, pawing at his hair. How do I look? I 348 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 3: got a big game tomorrow. Now I imagine that these 349 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 3: boys had been doing some drinking during their coon hunt, 350 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 3: but I don't know this for certain, but you'll figure 351 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 3: out why soon. Either way, the boys decided, let's steal 352 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 3: Ellis used tiger. 353 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 2: How crazy is it? By the way, just to put 354 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 2: a pause on it to hunt raccoons. No, like it 355 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:13,239 Speaker 2: just I don't know. 356 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 3: I think squirrel hunting is a little. 357 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 2: Crazy worse, that's even worse. 358 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 3: But like raccoons are at least kind of like a 359 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 3: gnarly mean animal in the world. 360 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 2: Well they call them the trash pans, right, and so 361 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 2: it's like, I don't know, we got a lot of 362 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 2: raccoons here in California and they're you know, they break 363 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 2: into garbage and stuff like that. 364 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 3: But in the South they're kind of surly, like they'll 365 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 3: charge you, like I've had. 366 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 2: I've seen ones down there too, But it's like still 367 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:41,120 Speaker 2: that's it feels very like I'm gonna hunt quail type thing, 368 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 2: but release the I don't know, it just seems it 369 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 2: does not seem like a challenging no. 370 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 3: But also you got to remember in the twentieth century 371 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 3: in different periods. In the twenties in college football you 372 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 3: had the coon skin hat, and then in the. 373 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:57,120 Speaker 2: Fifties, yeshon and the coon skin hats comes back. 374 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 3: So maybe they're thinking we can just get some coons, 375 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 3: make a little money selling. 376 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 2: It feels like I don't think it was a challenge. 377 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 3: I don't think they were doing it like, it's not 378 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 3: like game hunt big game hunting. 379 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I also just don't like I mean, I 380 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 2: guess they needed to make hats, but I don't like killing. 381 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 2: Whatever killing. Were they eating the raccoons? 382 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,880 Speaker 3: It was the South probably actually, Yeah, so back ton't Mike. 383 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:22,679 Speaker 3: The tiger. This, by the way, was a five hundred 384 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,439 Speaker 3: pound big cat. This wasn't like some runt tiger. It 385 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 3: was a legitimate Bengal. 386 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 2: Tiger, big boy. 387 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 3: And so they decided, what the hell, let's steal it. 388 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 3: And so that's what they did. As Norbert tells the story, 389 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 3: we thought there'd be some security, but the wheels were 390 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 3: not locked. So I did the trailer and hooked it 391 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 3: up to Oscar's car. He didn't have a trailer hit, 392 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 3: so we used a chain. So they drove off in 393 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 3: Oscar's nineteen forty two Plymouth, the stolen tiger in tow, 394 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 3: not like in the car. The chain did the trailer 395 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 3: to the car and took off. 396 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:57,199 Speaker 2: Now that's exactly what a Bengal tiger needs. December in 397 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 2: the sound and whipped around. Yeah, that's the the Lord 398 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 2: intended it to be. 399 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 3: At some point they stopped to phone a friend at 400 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 3: Tulane and told them what they'd done and that they'd 401 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 3: stolen LSU's Bengal Tiger and that they were going to 402 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:11,120 Speaker 3: bring them to campus. So tell everybody we're coming. Oh no, right, 403 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 3: According to Norbert, at one point, the chain failed and 404 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 3: the trailer came loose from the forty two Plymouth and 405 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 3: it rolled on past the car. 406 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 2: Oh no. 407 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 3: But they managed to catch up to the runaway tiger cage, 408 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 3: so they refastened it to the back of the forty 409 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,679 Speaker 3: two Plymouth. They kept on rolling to Tulane. Next, they 410 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 3: got pulled over by a cop who was out patrolling 411 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,439 Speaker 3: late at night. When the cop pulls them over, the 412 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 3: boys they don't panic. Instead, they just tell them, oh, yeah, 413 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 3: we're responsible for bringing LSUS tiger. We're transporting it to 414 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 3: campus for the game the next day, the big game. Now, 415 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 3: being a fan of college football, I assume the cop 416 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 3: was like, well, you boys, be careful now you're here. Sure, 417 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 3: and he let them go on their merry way. Yeah, 418 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 3: that's all the questions. 419 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 2: They were drinking. They didn't have like trunk driving laws. 420 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, not nineteen fifty and that. 421 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:54,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know exact. They're like, have you guys had 422 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 2: enough to drink. You know, you might drive a little 423 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 2: bit better with a couple more beers. 424 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 3: You might focus. You know, here's one for the road. 425 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 3: I got some in my car. 426 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 2: Now. 427 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 3: When they get to the Tulane campus, students who'd heard 428 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,199 Speaker 3: about this audacious stunt, they're all there to greet them. 429 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 3: They're excited. There's like a lot of like, you know, 430 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 3: what are we gonna do with the tiger. Let's paint 431 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:14,640 Speaker 3: the tiger green? Because Tulane's mascot is the green Wave, 432 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 3: So they're gonna like, you know. 433 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 2: A mascot is a wave, the green wave. Yeah, like 434 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 2: an ocean wave, but green. 435 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 3: There you go. Norbert didn't want to hurt the tiger, 436 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 3: all right. He's like, no, we can't do that. I 437 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 3: just want to humiliate LSU. Nothing against the tiger. Good 438 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:31,199 Speaker 3: for you, I thought you'd like to know. 439 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 2: Now. 440 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 3: Their plan was to keep the tiger until halftime, and 441 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 3: then at halftime they drive onto the field with the 442 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 3: stolen LSU tiger and then they display them like we 443 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 3: got you, tiger. That was the plan, neck exactly you 444 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 3: and the bloodshed. This plan gets kaibosh when the dean 445 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 3: of students heard about the tiger nappers, and he insisted 446 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 3: that the stolen tiger be taken off campus before something 447 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 3: bad happened to some of the Tulane students. Yeah, he 448 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 3: wasn't worried about the LSU's tiger, just the Tulane students. 449 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 3: So Norbert and Oscar they hop back in the forty 450 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 3: two Plymouth and they drive the stolen tiger to Oscar's 451 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 3: house and they parked the tiger and the trailer inside 452 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 3: his parents' garage. Problem solved Later that same night, in 453 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 3: the early morning, Oscar's dad heard his hound dogs outside 454 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 3: Barkin and was about to go out to see what 455 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 3: the matter was, and said he told his boy, Oscar, 456 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 3: he go and check the dogs. That's when his son 457 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 3: told his father that there was a stolen tiger hidden 458 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 3: in his garage. His father thought about what his son 459 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 3: just said, and then he asked him, son, you've been drinking. 460 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 3: I guess you didn't believe his son because he and 461 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 3: the rest of the family then went out to see 462 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 3: said stolen tiger. 463 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 2: I'd want to see it. 464 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 3: Totally. Sure enough, there was the five hundred pound Bengal 465 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 3: tiger in their garage. Hound dogs or totally so Meanwhile, 466 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 3: word spreads on campus and soon enough it's on the radio. 467 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 3: They're talking about it, like the very early morning hours. 468 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 3: And so later that same morning, before the game, the 469 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 3: Nawlins police showed up at Oscar's house to check on 470 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 3: reports of a stolen Bengal tiger hidden in his family's garage. Yeah, 471 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 3: and at this point they the police took Oscar down 472 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 3: to the police station for questioning, but he wasn't arrested 473 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 3: because you know sec football. He said, we stole less 474 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 3: use tiger. Good, good on you boys. 475 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 2: Now. 476 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 3: Meanwhile, the tiger was eventually returned to LSU, and he 477 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,360 Speaker 3: was there on the sidelines for the game. He made 478 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 3: a game time. Yeah, he's a bit tired, bit listless 479 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,919 Speaker 3: after his long, strange trip the night before. Yeah, and 480 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 3: the game ended in a fourteen to fourteen tie. 481 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 2: Oh and they didn't do overtime. 482 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 3: They just no, apparently not. 483 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:29,159 Speaker 2: Is it like soccer. 484 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like, oh, that's enough game for today. 485 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,199 Speaker 2: But the tiger's tire, Yeah, Zach, we. 486 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 3: Go, look at Mike. He's his eyes are barely open. 487 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 2: He's just growing. Mike drugged the gills for these things. 488 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 3: So as a result of their tiger napping. Norbert and 489 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 3: Oscar and the other guys were banned from LSU's campus 490 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,199 Speaker 3: for life. Well, they care totally exactly like I never 491 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 3: want to go anywhere there. So for Norbert, who lived 492 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 3: the longest of all the guys, he ended up being 493 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:55,439 Speaker 3: banned for fifty years until finally, in two thousand and seven, 494 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 3: he received a letter on LSU stationery, and the letter read, 495 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 3: and I quote, it has been called our attention that 496 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 3: you're involved in the famous nineteen fifty tiger napping crime. 497 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 3: We understand that at the time you were banned from 498 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 3: the LSU campus while your stunt wreaked havoc on our team. 499 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 3: We assume by now that you've realized the seriousness of 500 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 3: your hainous crime. In the spirit of forgiveness, we're absolving 501 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 3: you of all guilt. We feel that your fifty year 502 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 3: exile from the LSU campus is sufficient punishment for your 503 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 3: bad deed. Therefore, you are welcome to visit the LSU campus. 504 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 2: I love, I love getting banned from somewhere. I wouldn't 505 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 2: go anywhere exactly. 506 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 3: It's like I can't come down to the trash place. 507 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 3: But Norbert had no desire obviously to set foot on 508 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 3: the LSU campus, because that's how it is for SEC 509 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 3: football teams. You're saying, I would never go there. I'd 510 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 3: rather you know. Yeah, so their loyalty just remun runs 511 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 3: that deep, ridiculously deep, criminally deep. 512 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 2: Yes. 513 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 3: Okay, well, let's spounce out of the SEC and let's 514 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 3: check in on the first big college football team rivalry 515 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 3: for the classic, the very first you know, the original 516 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 3: college football team rivalry, which was Harvard and Yale. 517 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 2: Oh wow, yes, okay, Now. 518 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,360 Speaker 3: This story may be about Harvard and Yale, but it's 519 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 3: really about Mit. 520 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 2: Oh. 521 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 3: You typically don't think of MIT in college football. 522 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 2: Not really. 523 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 3: Some people may even be thinking, do those nerds even 524 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 3: have a football? 525 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 2: They do, Yes, yes they. 526 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,880 Speaker 3: Do, Elizabeth. The MIT engineers good for they're not good, 527 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 3: But that's not important. No, what is important is that, 528 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 3: I know. What is important, though, is that the kids 529 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 3: Mit are known for pulling off some epic pranks. Oh sure, 530 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 3: like a bunch of them. Like, for instance, one time, 531 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 3: for a prank back in the nineteen thirties, five MIT 532 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 3: students used thermite bombs to make a point. Thermite, Elizabeth, 533 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 3: that's the stuff that, unlike jet fuel, can melt steel, beams, 534 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 3: apparently led by the Mary prankster Ken Wadley. He and 535 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 3: four other MIT students. They created their homemade thermite bomb. 536 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 3: They found a street car, and then they distracted the motorman, 537 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:53,880 Speaker 3: the guy driving the street car, and then they set 538 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,120 Speaker 3: off their thermite bombs and they use the superheated chemical 539 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 3: bomb to weld the street car to the that's how 540 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 3: hot it burns. It was the steel wheels to the steel. 541 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 2: Did they provide a manifesto explaining why they did this? 542 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 3: No, but good on you. We'll get back to that 543 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 3: point a little bit later about manifestos. By the way, 544 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 3: that Mary prankster Ken Wadley would go on to become 545 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 3: a dean at MIT. Oh, anyway, back to the Harvard 546 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 3: Yale game. In nineteen eighty three, Harvard was facing Yale 547 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 3: for their big annual rivalry game. It was a foregone 548 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 3: conclusion that the Harvard Crimson would likely win the game. 549 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:30,159 Speaker 3: Everybody knew that, but some geeks at MIT were dedicated 550 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 3: to winning the day for themselves with an epic prank. 551 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:33,640 Speaker 3: They weren't even in the game. 552 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 2: Oh, They're just like, I'm going to rain on both 553 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 2: of your prairiers. Exactly, Yes, I love that. 554 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 3: So a bunch of frat brothers from the Delta Kappa 555 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 3: Epsilon House, the Deekshuh, they came up with this plan 556 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 3: to embarrass Harvard. So before the game, they snuck into 557 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 3: Harvard Stadium not once, not twice, but eight times. Okay, 558 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,719 Speaker 3: why Molta set up their prank? So these nerds had 559 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 3: it all planned out, I mean, they had blueprints of 560 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 3: the stadium, they had the schedule of the security guards 561 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 3: rounds all figured out and cloked. It was a prank 562 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 3: that was, by the way, the culmination of five years 563 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 3: of work. What thanks to the MIT Technology Review, we 564 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 3: have an exhaustive account of what went down. Starting in 565 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,439 Speaker 3: nineteen seventy eight, the frad brothers from DKE designed and 566 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 3: built the first build of the eventual apparatus that they 567 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 3: would use for their prank. But those frat brothers ended 568 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 3: up graduating before they governed deploy it. And so in 569 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 3: nineteen eighty two, the other Deeks they learned and about 570 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 3: these OG plans, they decided, We're going to go through 571 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 3: with it. 572 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 2: Like this is already so much cooler than like get 573 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 2: drunk and steal a tiger, if you say so, Like 574 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 2: the logistics of Oh yeah, I. 575 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 3: Think you're going to like this. 576 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 2: I love it so. 577 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 3: According Toady Husaka class of eighty four, the frad Bros 578 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 3: used a balloon apparatus that their predecessors had designed, and 579 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,360 Speaker 3: over the course of their eight trips to the Harvard Stadium, 580 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 3: they secretly installed it. As who sucked an electrical engineering 581 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 3: major he recalled it, quote, about twenty guys participated. We 582 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 3: go in at two am with camo paint on and 583 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 3: lookouts in the stadium towers. I love this, yes, then, 584 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 3: as he also adds, I found the irrigation control board 585 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 3: and I wired the apparatus into an empty circuit breaker. 586 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,880 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I love this more and more every sentence. 587 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 3: The plan was that when they triggered their apparatus, it 588 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 3: would trigger this enormous black balloon that would emerge from 589 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 3: the Harvard field with a prank message spelled out on 590 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 3: its rubbery skin. Except the nerds messed up a little bit. 591 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 3: Their wiring failed. The balloon didn't deploy like they designed, 592 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 3: so one of the deep frapros had to run down 593 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 3: and then finesse his way past the Harvard campus police 594 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 3: and talk his way into the electrical room and then 595 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 3: hand trigger the device. To do that, he pulled every 596 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 3: single circuit breaker there was and then boom. Eventually, this 597 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:41,640 Speaker 3: desperate move works, as the MIT Technology Review reports it. Quote, 598 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 3: during the second quarter of the Harvard Yale football game 599 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 3: on November twentieth, nineteen eighty two, a big black balloon 600 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 3: with MIT written all over it suddenly emerged from the 601 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 3: Harvard Stadium field. The two teams were lined up when 602 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:56,199 Speaker 3: suddenly our attension shifted toward the sideline, remembers MIT Museum 603 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 3: Science and Technology Curator Deborah Douglas, who was there. That's 604 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 3: when we saw it. Everyone was trying to make out 605 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 3: what was written on the balloon. Some of the Harvard 606 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 3: police seemed to draw their guns, and then suddenly it exploded. 607 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 3: So calling the game for the TV audience at home 608 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 3: was legendary college football broadcaster Brent Musburger. Watching it all 609 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 3: go down, He tells the TV audience at home that 610 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 3: it appears that a bomb is floated down onto Harvard 611 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 3: Field and exploded, resulting in a three foot crater. Now, 612 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 3: I don't want you to worry about Harvard's field because 613 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 3: I know how you green thumbs are. The groundskeeper sprung 614 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 3: into action and they were able to repair the grass 615 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 3: in the field and the game went on. 616 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 2: Wait it did blow a crater three a three foot crater. Yeah. 617 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 2: When the balloon exploded, it popped. 618 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. So the Harvard eventually went on to defeat Yale 619 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 3: forty five to seven. But after the game, no one 620 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 3: was talking about Harvard and their victory. Instead, everyone was 621 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 3: talking about Mitya. In fact, some of the frat bros 622 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 3: from DKE they held a press conference where they showed 623 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 3: up drinking beers, budweisers, some of them were pantsless. It 624 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 3: was oh, now do you say high spirited, and the 625 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 3: mit frat bros proceeded to explain to the non nerds 626 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 3: what they had done and how it was all actually 627 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 3: just a harmless prank. I know it exploded, but it 628 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 3: was a harmless prank, So it was one deck fratbro 629 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 3: told the Gathered Press the balloon was quote just free 630 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 3: on It's just what you would get in a refrigerator. 631 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 3: It's harmless, and it's escaping. It's it's an inert gas. 632 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,959 Speaker 3: So looking back at their successful prank to embarrass Harvard, 633 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 3: one of the Deeks later told the Associated Press that 634 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 3: quote the hardest part of the whole project was trying 635 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 3: to scalp tickets to get into the game. Now, if 636 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 3: you ask me my favorite MIT related stunt, isn't that one? 637 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 3: It's one Remember you think about the manifesto. Well, some 638 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 3: students one time snuck onto the Harvard campus and they 639 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 3: dressed up the statue of John Harvard as a former 640 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 3: Harvard student, specifically Ted Kaczinski aka the unifommer eddyk. That's 641 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 3: some super extra dirty five my god. So like, yeah, 642 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 3: possibly a manifesto, I don't know, probably not the shack. 643 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 3: How about you know, Okay, let's take another break and 644 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 3: see what's what with some advertisements as some sweet sweet ads. 645 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 3: Don't worry, there's gonna be plenty for everyone. Oh thank 646 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 3: god back in two and two. We're back, Elizabeth. Yes, 647 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 3: you ready for some more college football craziness. Yes, right, 648 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 3: I saved the best for last. 649 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 2: Does it involve nerds? 650 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 3: You could say, yes? 651 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 2: Oh probably not? 652 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 3: Well no kinda. I mean, well, you can tell me 653 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 3: this one I picked out just for you. Oh, it's 654 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 3: all about the Big Game aka Stanford versus cal h. Yes, Now, 655 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 3: as you know, cal as in UC Berkeley and Stanford 656 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 3: are each other's oldest rival. Do you want to guess 657 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 3: the year when Cal first faced Stanford in a rivalry game. 658 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 2: Let's say was it in the nineteen hundreds? 659 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 3: No? 660 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 2: Oh, okay, so I think the cow was founded in 661 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 2: eighteen sixty eight. If I'm not mistake, that's right to me. 662 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 3: I don't know. 663 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 2: Let's say eighteen seventy three. 664 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 3: Eighteen ninety two, Oh, eighteen ninety two. 665 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, but college football really gets become invented. 666 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 3: In eighteen nineties. You see all a lot of the big. 667 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 2: First game invented. 668 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 3: This one is eighteen ninety two, and the team manager 669 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 3: for Stanford for that game was a future US president. Oh, 670 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 3: really want to guess which US president led the Stanford 671 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 3: team in eighteen ninety two? 672 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 2: Barack Hussein Obama. 673 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 3: I'll give you a hint. He was the thirty first 674 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 3: president of the United States. And he is not a 675 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 3: beloved president Millard Fillmore. 676 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 1: No. 677 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 3: The manager of Stanford's football team in eighteen ninety two 678 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 3: was Herbert Hoover. 679 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 2: Oh. 680 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 3: Now, before a crowd of twenty thousand people packed into 681 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 3: the Hate Street Grounds, a field in San Francisco, the 682 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 3: very first big game was played. The stadium held fifteen 683 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 3: thousand people. Herbert Hoover expected the crowd to be about 684 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 3: ten thousand people, so that's exactly how many tickets he 685 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:08,479 Speaker 3: printed up. Obviously, he greatly underestimated the demand. Instead, twenty 686 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 3: thousand people filed through. 687 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 2: The gates, turned it into a Hooverville pretty much. 688 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 3: So he got these people overflowing the field, right. So basically, yeah, yes, yeah, 689 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,959 Speaker 3: so at what would later be Golden Gate Park at 690 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 3: the top up by Hate Street. And yes, so, after 691 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 3: he ran out of the printed tickets, Herbert Hoover just 692 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 3: stood there at the turnstile collecting coins for people's entry. 693 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 3: He tossed all the proceeds into this big washtub and 694 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 3: basically you got the idea. The place was a bumping right. So, 695 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 3: after this huge crowd is seated, the stands are packed 696 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 3: to standing room only capacity with all these eager fans, 697 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 3: the team captains, they go out onto the field to 698 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 3: meet with the referee and go over the pregame instructions. 699 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 3: Listen a quick question, Yeah, what's the one thing you 700 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 3: need to play football? 701 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 2: Steroids? 702 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 3: A football? 703 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 2: Oh? A football? Yeah, that's a good point. 704 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 3: Well, that day when the ref asked them for the 705 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 3: football one team and looked the other and said, well, 706 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 3: hand him the ball. The other team captain was like, 707 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 3: I don't have the ball. I thought you were bringing 708 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 3: a football. Turns out no one brought a football. 709 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 2: Wait, no, no one brought Herbert. 710 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 3: It is so future. Herbert Hoover, being the leader type 711 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 3: that he was, had to act quickly. He had someone 712 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 3: climb into a saddle and they took off on horseback. 713 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 3: Why to go procure a. 714 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 2: Football to go to Big Five? 715 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 3: Pretty much, it was like like old year old Big 716 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 3: Five the fan on horseback rode to a local sporting 717 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 3: good store. Once he was there, he was like, one football, please, 718 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 3: we have the big game going down. So then with 719 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 3: football secure, he hopped back down on. 720 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 2: The Did he buy more than one football? 721 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 3: Let's hope, right, but I think he only bought one. 722 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 3: I don't know. 723 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 2: Does Herbert give him enough money? 724 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 3: I like to picture him having just one football? 725 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then he holds it like he's. 726 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 3: A Heisman trophy. 727 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. 728 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 3: So he hops back on the horse races back to 729 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 3: the Hate Street Stadium, which is, you know, as I said, 730 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 3: would be the Golden Gate Field Park, but. 731 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 2: You know, and then later you know, would be the 732 00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 2: epicenter of the summer flow. 733 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 3: There you go to hate to ask totally Berth of 734 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 3: the hippies and college and the big game at college football. 735 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 2: Isn't that beautiful? 736 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 3: Zero h it full circle right Berkeley. 737 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 2: Berkeley sunrise sunset. 738 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 3: Anyway, long story short, Stanford beat Cal in that game, 739 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 3: fourteen to ten. That was the score for the very 740 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 3: first big game between Stanford and Cal. After that first 741 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,400 Speaker 3: big game was all set and done, future president Herbert 742 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 3: Hoover counted up the money from the gate and he 743 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 3: found that he'd collected thirty thousand dollars. 744 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 2: Wait in those days. 745 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 3: Now, that's n ever. I got from Stanford's website, and 746 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure that that's in eighteen ninety two dollars, 747 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 3: which means they were charging apparently fans a dollar fifty 748 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 3: a ticket. I looked it up for you, But the 749 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 3: official US inflation calculator only goes back to nineteen thirteen, 750 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 3: when the IRS starts and the Federal Reserve starts. But 751 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 3: according to the Consumer Price Index, which goes back to 752 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 3: eighteen ninety two, a dollar fifty and eighteen ninety two 753 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 3: would be fifty three dollars in twenty twenty five, which 754 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 3: for a college football game in eighteen ninety two seems expensive. 755 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 756 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 3: Either way, the receipts from that first big game were 757 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 3: enough to pay for the entire next season of college 758 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,799 Speaker 3: football or Stanford's football team, and thus marks the start 759 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 3: of the Cal Stanford rivalry. In this is all just 760 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,760 Speaker 3: an appetizer for what I really want to tell you about, 761 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 3: because now we need to skip ahead a few years 762 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 3: to eighteen ninety nine. Eighteen nine, Elizabeth, do you know 763 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 3: about the Stanford Axe? 764 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know about it. It's like that's the like 765 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 2: the trophy basically that goes back and forth. So whoever 766 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 2: wins the big game gets the act very good. 767 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 3: I didn't know about this. I learned all about it. 768 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 2: I didn't go to Cal, but everyone and my family 769 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 2: went to Yeah, and I grew up going to football games. Yeah, 770 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 2: and I'm like, I'm the family disappointment because I went 771 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 2: to the farm school. 772 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 3: You went to Cal Davis instead. 773 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 2: Of exactly, it's all Cal Berkeley folks, and they are crowded. 774 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 3: Near stare at your Cal Davis. 775 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 2: Okay, well, but I mean if I have to choose 776 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 2: between Cal and Stanford. 777 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 3: Hello, oh yeah, I'm with you totally now, since you 778 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 3: already know about the Stanford x I will tell you 779 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 3: the story of how the acts came to be. 780 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 2: Oh yes, it is enjoy that ridiculous. 781 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 3: The Stanford Axe is a real axe, and it was 782 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 3: a standard issue twelve or fifteen inch lumberjacks axe. I 783 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,880 Speaker 3: found varying accounts of its size. Anyway, back in eighteen 784 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,800 Speaker 3: ninety nine, at a PEP rally for Stanford, the students 785 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 3: unveiled the axe and used it to fire up the 786 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,240 Speaker 3: student body by chopping off the head of a straw 787 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,879 Speaker 3: man that was dressed up in Cal's colors of blue 788 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 3: and gold. Violent right, But not only that, they were 789 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,720 Speaker 3: also yelling the Stanford Axe yell, which is a crazy 790 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,560 Speaker 3: Pep song. The Stanford Axe yell has lines like give 791 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 3: them the axe, axe, the axe where right in the neck? 792 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 3: The neck the neck love yea? I thought you would. Now. 793 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 3: Can you imagine a bunch of students all yelling that 794 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 3: to some PEP squad cheerleader as they chopped the head 795 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 3: off a straw man dressed as a cow supporter. I 796 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 3: thought you could. 797 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 2: Why do I suddenly have this blood lige? 798 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 3: I don't know where it's coming from? It say, is 799 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 3: it the winter of dark? Elizabeth, we're getting near. 800 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 2: I think we're in the late summer of blood lust. Apparently, 801 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 2: like I've just I don't know what. 802 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 3: Happened college football seasons. 803 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 2: I have them all head up for it. 804 00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 3: See, people say agriculture today is so violent, but you 805 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 3: read left, you don't even know that happens. 806 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:05,840 Speaker 2: It's the violence isn't in the right place. 807 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,360 Speaker 3: So anyway, back in eighteen ninety nine, at a Stanford 808 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 3: col baseball game on April fifteenth, the Stanford yell leaders 809 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 3: that's what they were called, not cheerleaders, yell leaders. They 810 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 3: were doing their thing, leading the student body in a 811 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 3: rousing rendition of the axe yell. And they used this 812 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,800 Speaker 3: real lumberjack axe to chop up some blue and gold 813 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 3: ribbons whenever Stanford had a good play in the baseball game. 814 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 2: Ribbons exactly. 815 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 3: I don't even know how you do. I don't know 816 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 3: if they're holding them and chopping through them on the 817 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:40,399 Speaker 3: grass and just chopping sweetish chef on it, I don't know. 818 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 2: And then they see like all the pieces of ribbons 819 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 2: and someone's like, is this a gender reveal? 820 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,839 Speaker 3: So after like a bunch of innings of this game, 821 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,319 Speaker 3: the cow fans got pissed, right, So what do they 822 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 3: do in the ninth inning? They go over and they 823 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,359 Speaker 3: beat up the Stanford yell leaders and they steal the X. Yes, 824 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 3: now I should say that this game wasn't going down 825 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 3: in Stanford, or it was on neutral grounds in San Francisco, Okay. 826 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,239 Speaker 3: According to newspapers of the day, By the end of 827 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 3: the game, the Cow fans were so pissed they muscled 828 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,719 Speaker 3: the acts away from the Stanford yell leaders, which then 829 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:11,759 Speaker 3: led to well, you know what, rather than me tell 830 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:13,840 Speaker 3: you about it, Elizabeth, I'd like you to close your eyes. Well, 831 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:22,400 Speaker 3: I'd like you to picture it. It's April fifteenth, eighteen 832 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,399 Speaker 3: ninety nine, and you, Elizabeth, are in San Francisco. At 833 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,239 Speaker 3: the moment, you're at a ballpark, one located at sixteenth 834 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,920 Speaker 3: Street in fulsom You happen to be attending a baseball 835 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 3: game between local college rivals Stanford and Cow. The San 836 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 3: Francisco Ballpark is safe, neutral territory, and so far it's 837 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,920 Speaker 3: been a hell of a game. Now, in the ninth inning, 838 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,760 Speaker 3: Cal is rallying back after a stunning triple is cracked 839 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 3: off the bat of a cowplayer. A two sport football 840 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:51,120 Speaker 3: and baseball star. The game is nearly tied nine to seven. 841 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 3: But really you're not so much watching or even attending 842 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,759 Speaker 3: this game, since you are a prop one that's being 843 00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,360 Speaker 3: used to taunt the cow students. Because that's right, Elizabeth, 844 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,799 Speaker 3: you are this Stanford Ax. You've been busy today, used 845 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,960 Speaker 3: to chop up blue and gold ribbons to taunt the 846 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:08,279 Speaker 3: cow students. There is now a simmering rage coming from 847 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,239 Speaker 3: the cow bleachers. When this ballgame finally comes to its 848 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:15,360 Speaker 3: stunning clothes, Stanford is the victor. You are triumphantly lifted 849 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,279 Speaker 3: up for one final taunt of the cow fans. Then 850 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 3: you were handed over to a pair of Stanford students 851 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,920 Speaker 3: called the Guardians of the Ax, to be taken back 852 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 3: to Palo Alto at the Stanford campus. But before you 853 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 3: make the trip back to Stanford, you hear a hubble 854 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 3: loop begin as nearly a dozen cow students stop the 855 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 3: Stanford students that are carrying you. Suddenly you're being wrestled 856 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,720 Speaker 3: out of the hands of a Stanford student. The angry 857 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,040 Speaker 3: cow students rip you out of his hands, and then 858 00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:44,279 Speaker 3: things turn truly wild. You feel the tight grip of 859 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 3: a cow fan as he yanked you away from the 860 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 3: Stanford students' hands, and then you feel the cool breeze 861 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,920 Speaker 3: of speed as he goes running off. You can hear 862 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,319 Speaker 3: Stanford students shouting as they rally to save you, but 863 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,040 Speaker 3: mostly you just hear the heavy breathing and the pounding 864 00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,880 Speaker 3: footsteps of the cow student as he flees the scene. 865 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 3: The cow student sprints all the way to fifteenth Street, 866 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,160 Speaker 3: then he heads up a few blocks towards Valencia Street, 867 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 3: but before he can get far, this cow thief is 868 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 3: caught and tacted by a pair of Stanford students. You 869 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 3: now switch hands. Now Stanford has you back. However, this 870 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,719 Speaker 3: doesn't last long, as they run back a mere block later, 871 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 3: Cow students catch them and snatch you back. Next, you're 872 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,919 Speaker 3: handed over to a cow track star who takes off, 873 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 3: sprinting like the wind. He makes it a few blocks, 874 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,920 Speaker 3: where he then hands you off to a second cow student, 875 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 3: and in order to make a daring getaway, this second 876 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 3: cow student, joined by others, pops into a horse drawn 877 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,600 Speaker 3: wagon and they race off. Wagon wheels crush the gravel 878 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,320 Speaker 3: as you hear Stanford students calling out, shouting with blood 879 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,160 Speaker 3: pumping anger. You don't know the city well, since you're 880 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,280 Speaker 3: a humble lumberjacks axe, but if you did, you would 881 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,959 Speaker 3: know you're headed uphill towards Nobe Street. Stanford students also 882 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,280 Speaker 3: hop into a wagon of their own, and they give chase. 883 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,720 Speaker 3: Now it's a high speed wagon chase through the hills 884 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,279 Speaker 3: of San Francisco. After a quick left and then a right, 885 00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,279 Speaker 3: the cow students in their wagons speed across Market. 886 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,000 Speaker 2: Street, the main thoroughfare in the city. 887 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,360 Speaker 3: They make it over to Oak Street a few blocks away. 888 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,279 Speaker 3: As the horse drawn wagon navigates the hilly streets of 889 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,560 Speaker 3: San Francisco, one of the cow students spots a butcher's shop. 890 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 3: Soon enough, you feel the fleeing wagon pull to a 891 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:16,400 Speaker 3: dramatic stop. A cow student hops down runs into the 892 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 3: butcher's shop. After a quick exchange of words and money, 893 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,760 Speaker 3: you feel the butcher saw off your handle. That seems extreme, 894 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,280 Speaker 3: but now you're much easier to manage or to hide 895 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 3: with your handle removed. The cow student runs back to 896 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,480 Speaker 3: the wagon. The horses take off again. The getaway wagon 897 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,439 Speaker 3: races downhill on Oak Street. It's a steep street. After 898 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 3: racing downhill, the getaway wagon heads for Fillmore Street, where 899 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,839 Speaker 3: the wagon makes a hard left turn and speeds along 900 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,640 Speaker 3: in its frantic escape. Fillmore Street is packed with wagons 901 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,439 Speaker 3: and other folks on horseback. A few narrow misses later, 902 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,440 Speaker 3: the wagon makes another hard turn and speeds down Washington 903 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,799 Speaker 3: Street until you reach downtown San Francisco. This means even 904 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:55,160 Speaker 3: more chaos of midday traffic. At Powell Street, the getaway 905 00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,280 Speaker 3: wagon leans into a hard left turn. Wagon wheels barely 906 00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,759 Speaker 3: hold to the street. If you had, you would see 907 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,680 Speaker 3: that you're now on Clay Street, racing through the Financial district. 908 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,840 Speaker 3: You can hear the distant foghorns of the San Francisco Harbor. 909 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:10,520 Speaker 3: Cow students are jubilant, confident they're gonna make their escape, 910 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:14,239 Speaker 3: but you hear the shrill whistles of San Francisco police officers. 911 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,319 Speaker 3: The officers who've been alerted to the axe left join 912 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,120 Speaker 3: in the chase, with both San Francisco cops and the 913 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,920 Speaker 3: Stanford students in hot pursuit. The cow students race for 914 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 3: the ferry docks as the cloths of the horses clatter 915 00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,359 Speaker 3: against the street. Startled pedestrians leap out of the way 916 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,480 Speaker 3: of these galloping horses. Meanwhile, the cow student, who grips 917 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 3: what's left of you, holds you tight to his body. 918 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,400 Speaker 3: As the getaway wagon heads for the ferry building, located 919 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,000 Speaker 3: there at the end of Market, where the city's main 920 00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:43,360 Speaker 3: thoroughfare meets the docks. You hear the cow student call whoa, 921 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,640 Speaker 3: and the horses come to a hard stop. The cow student, 922 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,920 Speaker 3: gripping you by the axe head, hops down from the 923 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,880 Speaker 3: wagon and runs for the ferry building, the cops giving chase. 924 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:54,000 Speaker 3: They can't be far behind. However, there's other trouble because 925 00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,120 Speaker 3: at the ferry building there are a wait more San 926 00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,279 Speaker 3: Francisco cops, and with them is the president of the 927 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:03,560 Speaker 3: student body from Stanford University. Together they're inspecting every male 928 00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,279 Speaker 3: passenger who attempts to board a ferry across the bay 929 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,040 Speaker 3: headed back to Berkeley. You hear the cow student, who 930 00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:12,040 Speaker 3: grips you tight under his overcoat, say howdy, what are 931 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,919 Speaker 3: you doing here? A young woman's voice answers. It's clear 932 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,640 Speaker 3: from their tone and their exchange they know each other. 933 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,000 Speaker 3: The cow student asks the young woman if she'll do 934 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,640 Speaker 3: him a favor. You feel him hand what's left of 935 00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,239 Speaker 3: you over to her, and he asks her to hide you. 936 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,000 Speaker 3: She's only too happy to help. She steaks you up 937 00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,480 Speaker 3: under her skirt and holds you tight against her bloomers 938 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,560 Speaker 3: for undergarments. Together, they now head to board a faerry 939 00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,000 Speaker 3: that will take them back across the bay to Oakland 940 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,600 Speaker 3: and not to Berkeley. That's a smart choice. It means 941 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:40,920 Speaker 3: they avoid the police and the president of the student 942 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,640 Speaker 3: body from Stanford who are watching the gangplank for the 943 00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:47,200 Speaker 3: Berkeley Fairy. After tickets are purchased, the two casually board 944 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,759 Speaker 3: the Oakland ferry and with a blast of its fog horn, 945 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,560 Speaker 3: the boat pulls away from the dock. Oh what a 946 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:53,960 Speaker 3: wild ride for an axe. 947 00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:55,960 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I love it so much. 948 00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:59,319 Speaker 3: So that's how the cow students stole Stanford's axe and 949 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,920 Speaker 3: initiated one of the longest rivalries in college football, because 950 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,040 Speaker 3: even though the axe was stolen from a baseball game, 951 00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:06,759 Speaker 3: it would go on, as you pointed out, to become 952 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,960 Speaker 3: the trophy for the school's annual big game in college football. 953 00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,080 Speaker 3: But there's a lot more to the story, Oh Elizabeth, 954 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,760 Speaker 3: what I just told you was true, essentially true, as 955 00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,120 Speaker 3: in it all happened. I did dramatize it a bit 956 00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,239 Speaker 3: because we don't know the exact details of the chase, 957 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,239 Speaker 3: but there was a fighter, the axe, the high speed 958 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,439 Speaker 3: chase through San Francisco. In fact, there's a hand drawn 959 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,920 Speaker 3: map you can find of that chase and the craze 960 00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,600 Speaker 3: path that I just described through the city's busy streets. 961 00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:31,920 Speaker 3: And it was all true. About the Ferry building, dodging 962 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,320 Speaker 3: the cops, chopping off the axe handle the president of 963 00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,800 Speaker 3: the Stanford student body, all that's true. And the Darren 964 00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,359 Speaker 3: Cow students sneaking aboard a ferry across the bay and 965 00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,760 Speaker 3: make it safely back to the Cow campus with Stanford 966 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,640 Speaker 3: axe also all true. But the last part of the story, 967 00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,600 Speaker 3: that's where the legend comes in, because according to historians 968 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,319 Speaker 3: who looked into this, the part about the fairy left 969 00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:54,239 Speaker 3: out some key details on purpose. So now I'll tell 970 00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,719 Speaker 3: you what the Cow and Stanford historians have come to 971 00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,320 Speaker 3: say is the true full story of what happened to 972 00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,399 Speaker 3: the Stanford acc and how it was taken back to Berkeley. Yeah, 973 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:07,640 Speaker 3: Carl Who of Stanford and who and Cameron of col 974 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,759 Speaker 3: uncovered the actual ending of this crazy chase. When that 975 00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,400 Speaker 3: final fleeing Cow student in the getaway wagon, he was 976 00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,640 Speaker 3: a dude named Clinton Miller. When he got to the 977 00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:19,120 Speaker 3: Ferry building, he met a fellow Cal student named Everett Brown. 978 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,799 Speaker 3: Evertt Brown took the Stanford axe from Clinton Miller, who 979 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,640 Speaker 3: must have been exhausted from his crazy wagon chase. And so, 980 00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:28,320 Speaker 3: according to the two historians of this wild event, Everett 981 00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,640 Speaker 3: Brown pulled like a bugs bunny to get the Stanford 982 00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,880 Speaker 3: axe back to cow. And what I mean by that 983 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,920 Speaker 3: is well, as Stanford historian Carl who tells it and 984 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,800 Speaker 3: I quote, Everett Brown saw the cops waiting as he 985 00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:40,640 Speaker 3: got to the ferry building, so he quickly bought a 986 00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:42,920 Speaker 3: dress from a push cart peddler at the foot of 987 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,880 Speaker 3: Market Street and changed in a nearby alley, and then 988 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:49,320 Speaker 3: he and Clinton Miller walked onto the boat as a couple. 989 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:50,720 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 990 00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:52,799 Speaker 3: And that's not all. 991 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:54,040 Speaker 2: That's better than the legend. 992 00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:57,320 Speaker 3: The antics were a major source of embarrassment for Brown's 993 00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,400 Speaker 3: rich family, because, as the col historian Cameron Will adds 994 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,680 Speaker 3: to the telling and I quote, his mother and grandmother 995 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,400 Speaker 3: were horrified when they heard about it. His grandmother was 996 00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:09,320 Speaker 3: the wife of the richest man in town, Frederick Delger, 997 00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,840 Speaker 3: who owned all of downtown Oakland between Telegraph and Broadway 998 00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,600 Speaker 3: from eighth Street to twentieth Street. They were afraid that 999 00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,920 Speaker 3: the scandal would harm Everetts budding legal career, so Clint 1000 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,160 Speaker 3: agreed to take the blame. It wasn't the theft that 1001 00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,600 Speaker 3: appalled them so much, it was that he had dressed 1002 00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:24,080 Speaker 3: as a woman. 1003 00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:25,880 Speaker 2: Oh God, get over it. 1004 00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,279 Speaker 3: So either way, those two managed to get to the 1005 00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:31,000 Speaker 3: Stanford ACX safely back to Berkeley. That night, there's a 1006 00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:34,320 Speaker 3: celebration on the campus as the Stanford axes paraded around 1007 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,600 Speaker 3: before throngs of cheering Cow students. Right later on is 1008 00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,680 Speaker 3: secretly stored under a bed at the Kyfi Fratorney House. 1009 00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:44,319 Speaker 3: And when the Stanford student body heard about this denigration 1010 00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:47,680 Speaker 3: of their axe, a band of thirty Stanford students showed 1011 00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,040 Speaker 3: up on the Cow campus to get their axe back. 1012 00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:52,759 Speaker 3: They went to the frat house, broke in, tore the 1013 00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:56,040 Speaker 3: place apart looking for their stolen axe. They found no axe. 1014 00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,560 Speaker 3: The axe was there hidden in the space behind a 1015 00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:00,600 Speaker 3: sliding door. I imagine like in this space where the 1016 00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,680 Speaker 3: door slid into either way. They missed it. Defeated again. 1017 00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:07,560 Speaker 3: Stanford raiding party left after its night at the frat house. 1018 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:09,640 Speaker 3: The Stanford ax was later then moved to a bank 1019 00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,560 Speaker 3: vault for safekeeping, oh where it stayed for the next 1020 00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:16,319 Speaker 3: few decades, and each year the Cow students would bring 1021 00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,920 Speaker 3: the Stanford Axe out of hiding and paraded around at 1022 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,360 Speaker 3: the Greek Theater on the col campus for their annual 1023 00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:25,640 Speaker 3: pep rally before the big game against Stanford's football team Elizabeth. 1024 00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:29,600 Speaker 3: They did this for thirty years, but then in nineteen thirty, 1025 00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:33,239 Speaker 3: a brave group of Stanford students dubbed the Immortal twenty one, 1026 00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,680 Speaker 3: staged as new Raid. They snuck onto the Cow campus 1027 00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:38,480 Speaker 3: on the night of the annual pep rally at the 1028 00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,520 Speaker 3: Greek Theatre before the big game. The Immortal twenty one. 1029 00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:43,680 Speaker 3: They show up prepared to do whatever it takes to 1030 00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,759 Speaker 3: get back the Stanford Axe, as their stolen axe was 1031 00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:48,840 Speaker 3: about to be returned to the bank where it's always 1032 00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,520 Speaker 3: kept safe. A few of the Mortal twenty one pretend 1033 00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,480 Speaker 3: to be guards of the Stanford Axe from Cow, while 1034 00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:57,480 Speaker 3: others pretended to be newspaper photographers, And so when the 1035 00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,760 Speaker 3: Cow student aka the Guardian of the Axe, was about 1036 00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,560 Speaker 3: to board the armored car that was going back to 1037 00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:07,600 Speaker 3: the bank, the fake photographers all snapped their their fash 1038 00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,640 Speaker 3: bulbs at the same time, temporarily blinding the Guardian of 1039 00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,080 Speaker 3: the Axe. Then the rest of the Immortal twenty one 1040 00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,600 Speaker 3: jumped him, one of the Stanford students put him in 1041 00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,120 Speaker 3: choke hold. Another Stanford student grabbed the axe. A third 1042 00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:21,600 Speaker 3: Stanford student threw down a tear gas canister that they'd 1043 00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:25,280 Speaker 3: been given by someone from the San Mateo Sheriff's Department 1044 00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:29,160 Speaker 3: specifically for this purpose. Under the cover of tear gas, 1045 00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,359 Speaker 3: most of the rest of the Immortal twenty one run 1046 00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,360 Speaker 3: off to three waiting getaway cars, but a few of 1047 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:38,240 Speaker 3: them remained dressed as phony Cow students, who then helped 1048 00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,840 Speaker 3: form a search party and lead the real cow students 1049 00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:41,720 Speaker 3: in the wrong direction. 1050 00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:43,960 Speaker 2: That's smart, nurds, right, I thought you'd like that. 1051 00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,880 Speaker 3: Meanwhile, in their getaway cars, the Stanford students drove fast 1052 00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:49,759 Speaker 3: as they could back to the safety their campus in 1053 00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:53,320 Speaker 3: Palo Alto. Returning with their beloved acts, they were greeted 1054 00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:54,280 Speaker 3: as conquering. 1055 00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:59,320 Speaker 2: Heroesridge, so they had to go down and around. 1056 00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:03,600 Speaker 3: So they'd done it wild right, They saved their worried 1057 00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:05,560 Speaker 3: though that this might one day lead to some real 1058 00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,040 Speaker 3: act of violence other than what we've seen so far. 1059 00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,480 Speaker 3: In pursuit of revenge and getting the axe back, the 1060 00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:13,719 Speaker 3: school administrator from cal and Stanford got together, and they're like, 1061 00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:17,040 Speaker 3: give us the damn ax. So they seized the Stanford Axe, 1062 00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:19,440 Speaker 3: and to quell in a future incidents, they agreed to 1063 00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,080 Speaker 3: make the Stanford X, as you pointed out, the trophy 1064 00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:25,560 Speaker 3: given to the winner of the annual rivalry college football 1065 00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:29,319 Speaker 3: game aka the Big Game, and their annual tradition continues 1066 00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:33,040 Speaker 3: to this day. Oh by the way, PostScript, the guy 1067 00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,080 Speaker 3: who bought the dress in the city and dressed up 1068 00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,480 Speaker 3: in drag and snuck the axe under the ferry to Berkeley, 1069 00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,480 Speaker 3: Everett Brown. He ended up becoming a judge for the 1070 00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:45,399 Speaker 3: Alameda County Superior Court. Not not only that, he also 1071 00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:48,279 Speaker 3: went on to become the president of the col Alumni Association. 1072 00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,960 Speaker 3: Because clearly the man has school spirits exactly. So what's 1073 00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:53,400 Speaker 3: our ridiculous takeaway here? 1074 00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:57,719 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, I think, like, you know, these these 1075 00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:01,480 Speaker 2: kind of rivalries provide such a good outlet for energy, 1076 00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:07,279 Speaker 2: and uh, you know that's the school spirit. Yeah, And 1077 00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:13,680 Speaker 2: I'm all for any distraction fun antics, yes, And what 1078 00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:15,600 Speaker 2: is your ridiculous takeaway? 1079 00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:18,480 Speaker 3: I love college football and I love that in fact, 1080 00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:21,680 Speaker 3: it's supposed to be like like basically a stand in 1081 00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:24,120 Speaker 3: for war. And then they layered all of this on 1082 00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,759 Speaker 3: top of a stand in for war. I just love 1083 00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:28,960 Speaker 3: that like they made it. It's just a very human 1084 00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,160 Speaker 3: expression to me. I love it. You put it the 1085 00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,200 Speaker 3: school spirit. I also love like the lengths that they're 1086 00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:36,000 Speaker 3: willing to go to, Like at any point someone could 1087 00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,279 Speaker 3: have fallen on the axe and die, but they're willing 1088 00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,360 Speaker 3: to risk that just for the joy of bringing the 1089 00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,920 Speaker 3: axe back to or stand for So. I love the 1090 00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,440 Speaker 3: stories that we tell ourselves, you know the truth. So 1091 00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:48,239 Speaker 3: there you go. Yeah. Are you in the mood for 1092 00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:48,960 Speaker 3: a talkback? 1093 00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:49,960 Speaker 2: Oh? Am? 1094 00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:59,719 Speaker 3: I can you wash us all down with a lovely talkback? O? God? 1095 00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:03,440 Speaker 2: I love you. 1096 00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:10,600 Speaker 5: Hi, Saron Elizabeth and producer Dave. 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