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Speaker 1: All right, welcome to the State of the Lakers postgame

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Speaker 1: show presented by Dash Radio. Jason is out tonight at

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Speaker 1: a holiday party, um enjoying himself and he missed miss

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Speaker 1: probably the Lakers not the best win, but at least

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Speaker 1: it was a good win. But my brother Rene is

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Speaker 1: here to fill in. I appreciate you coming on because,

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Speaker 1: like you're the honorary member here when any of us

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Speaker 1: need a night off. But how are you doing, man,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you coming up and filling in for for

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Speaker 1: Jason here. I'm doing good, man. I'm excited, not excited,

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Speaker 1: but I'm gonna say I'm happy. Relieved. I think relieved

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Speaker 1: is the right word. After Yeah, sitting at the edge

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Speaker 1: of my seat against it. Okay, sheet thunder uh in

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Speaker 1: the middle of December, after what happened the previous two games.

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Speaker 1: I'm relieved that, you know, the scene came back. The

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Speaker 1: Lakers came out and played well today and finished wish

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Speaker 1: the game with with no major drama. Yeah. I don't

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Speaker 1: know about you, but this lead never felt safe to me. Like,

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Speaker 1: I just never felt comfortable. They were up twenty they

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Speaker 1: were up twenty five, and I was like, and we

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Speaker 1: were even texting like this lead was never safe. It

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Speaker 1: went down to fifteen and you could see kind of

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Speaker 1: the wheels coming off. But Lebron, you know, as he does,

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Speaker 1: came back in and kind of sell things down. But yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: see we're lucky. Tonight it felt like Shay wasn't really

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Speaker 1: as aggressive as he could have been. This is a

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Speaker 1: bad team, right the preface before we get into all

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Speaker 1: this stuff. Okay, so he's a bad team. I have

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Speaker 1: no clue how we lost to them twice, one of

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Speaker 1: them at home. I believe in over time or whatever

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Speaker 1: it was. But yeah, it's good to get a win. Uh.

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Speaker 1: They looked they looked serious tonight. Lebron looks serious and

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Speaker 1: and we'll start with him. I want to ask you

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Speaker 1: about him because I feel like it's been trending upward

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Speaker 1: with Lebron, Like, he looks incredible. I can separate Lebron

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Speaker 1: from the team. The team hasn't looked great, but Lebron,

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Speaker 1: to me, has looked awesome. He has balanced, as ste

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Speaker 1: says to him, the jumper looks on, it looks clean,

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Speaker 1: the forum looks good. He just looks in rhythm, and

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Speaker 1: I thought there was a seriousness to him. Tonight where

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Speaker 1: he set the tone again. I thought he said the

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Speaker 1: tone in Memphis as well, but but tonight it just

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Speaker 1: seemed at a different level. I didn't see him smile once.

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Speaker 1: I twoted that, like he's not always smiling during games,

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Speaker 1: but usually you see him joyful. I didn't see him

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Speaker 1: joyful at all tonight. No smiling, and there's not much

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Speaker 1: to smile about, I guess, but what you see from him,

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Speaker 1: because I thought Lebron looked looked pretty good tonight, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, you know, aside from like his shooting splits

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Speaker 1: and stuff like that and just the efficiency overall, I

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Speaker 1: thought he was all business today is something that this

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Speaker 1: team sorely, sorely needs because you know, the theme of

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Speaker 1: like these past twenty six games or whatever, it's just

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Speaker 1: been like just like this rag tag no consistent, Like

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Speaker 1: they're consistently inconsistent, and um, you know, like obviously a

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Speaker 1: lot of it has been without Braun. But I thought

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Speaker 1: where like the execution was just kind of clean. Like

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Speaker 1: there's probably a couple of moments in the game like

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Speaker 1: towards the end of the first half, m maybe small

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Speaker 1: pockets in the second half where the team looked like

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Speaker 1: it was kind of going away from itself like that,

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Speaker 1: the paces coming out of the control, they were like

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Speaker 1: chasing guys around and and mind you, they gave up

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Speaker 1: a crap ton of open threes that did not go

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Speaker 1: down today, So I don't think that's gonna be um

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Speaker 1: for for other teams. But I think, you know, just

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Speaker 1: with their minutes that were on on the floor, and

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Speaker 1: it seemed like the ball is being moved around with

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Speaker 1: purpose like that. It felt like very purposeful offense for

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Speaker 1: a lot of this game. Um, and I think that's

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Speaker 1: a good thing because that's what you want, man, that's

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Speaker 1: that's that's what good execution looks like. Yeah, definitely, he

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Speaker 1: just looked determined tonight. There was it was all business,

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Speaker 1: all serious news and again prefacing everything with okay senior

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Speaker 1: right o because he missed a lot of open threes.

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Speaker 1: We also got Avery Bradley turning into Ray Allen, which

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Speaker 1: I don't think it was going to happen every night,

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Speaker 1: but those are shots that he should be taking. I

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Speaker 1: Avery Bradley shooting like forty percent from three. I looked

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Speaker 1: at the numbers. He was shooting like thirty four percent

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Speaker 1: I think Lebron being Lebron is Lebron being Lebron, and

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Speaker 1: a d being himself is the biggest key to this season.

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Speaker 1: Everything else doesn't really matter after that, like obviously the

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Speaker 1: team building and the team chemistry and lineups and stuff,

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Speaker 1: and he looked like one of the best players in

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Speaker 1: the world the last few games. It looks like he's

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Speaker 1: getting rested. It looks healthier. It looks healthier, right, because

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Speaker 1: last year we saw him, he saw him play in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs, but that wasn't Lebron, right. That's like, even

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Speaker 1: though a d got hurt and the Lakers probably still

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Speaker 1: could have won that series, Lebron wasn't Lebron. I saw

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Speaker 1: him going, you know, we saw him eating. Eating would

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Speaker 1: looks like he's getting his body right. Are you seeing

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Speaker 1: different level of bounds induced to him that I just

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Speaker 1: didn't see last year when he came back from that

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Speaker 1: calling some of these ways like Ron is not getting

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Speaker 1: calls at the rim like they're some like obvious ones.

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Speaker 1: He's just not getting called now because you know, whatever

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Speaker 1: Like teams are still doing this thing where they're like

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Speaker 1: like all of his driving angles and stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: And so he's done a lot of good stuff, you know,

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Speaker 1: Lakers have started using him and cuts a little bit

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Speaker 1: more to get him good quality looks from set action

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Speaker 1: and stuff like that. But like his athleticism at least

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Speaker 1: one action that we um, you know, we saw it

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Speaker 1: that that's normal but it's nice to see that, like

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Speaker 1: tell like alright, alright, this guy's this guy's back foot

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Speaker 1: is you know, like his hips are open in a

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Speaker 1: you know. I mean, like that's that elite, super generational,

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Speaker 1: And so it's been nice to see him kind of

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Speaker 1: stops on a dime and he fishes with an easy layup,

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Speaker 1: and like that kind of stuff is gonna be needed

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Speaker 1: because it helps us keep pace and it helps us

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Speaker 1: keep going. So it's been good to see him, Like

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Speaker 1: I'm glad that he's he's getting back to a point.

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Speaker 1: I hope he can get even better. Um, but but

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Speaker 1: he does look much better than he did last season. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's just he's just moving better. To me. And on

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Speaker 1: the defensive end, a lot of the talk has been,

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Speaker 1: you know, just Lebron load managing games. And for sure

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Speaker 1: you're not gonna have Lebron be super engage every single

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Speaker 1: nine defensively, but I feel like he does have to

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Speaker 1: kind of be the vocal leader, especially where we're getting

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Speaker 1: a lot of Lebron at center lineups two write like,

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Speaker 1: and I think that's also helping him on the other

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Speaker 1: to DeAndre Jordan and Dwight Howard for so many minutes, right,

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Speaker 1: phone booth basketball. But I thought defensively again tonight, like

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Speaker 1: and I think that's what they need for him. He was.

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Speaker 1: He had some pretty disrespectful like where lou Dort would

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Speaker 1: and and lou Dort as well. But you know, I

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Speaker 1: think that's a point of contention that's been been for

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Speaker 1: I see a lot of Timeline talking about as well.

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Speaker 1: But in my opinion, like Lebron has to have a

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Speaker 1: baseline level of agagement defensively just on this team at

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Speaker 1: least until we get healthy, right, Like until at least

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Speaker 1: at least the reason gets back or something, because some

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Speaker 1: of these lineups when you have and where we're we've

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Speaker 1: both been promote promoting the spacing lineups with Malik Monk,

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Speaker 1: Wayne Ellington, even Karmelo Anthony. But when you have that,

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Speaker 1: defend the rim at a serviceful way. And if it's

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Speaker 1: Lebron at the five, he's going to have to be

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Speaker 1: the one that UH is engaged on there because he's

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Speaker 1: the back line help. And I think he's been doing

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Speaker 1: like I do see an engagement level for him, and

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Speaker 1: sometimes it's annoying where Lebron is the most energy, the

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Speaker 1: guy who looks like he's most the most energized player

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Speaker 1: out there, but I thought he's he's building that up.

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Speaker 1: I think his defense also has been has been fined

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Speaker 1: these last few games. Yeah, so I would say, I

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Speaker 1: think everything you said is really on points. Uh, wonderful observation.

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Speaker 1: So you know, I'm I'm probably um, I've actively kind

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Speaker 1: I think like Bogo and Avery is like a match

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Speaker 1: coincidence to me that he connects with Lebron James right,

428
00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:15,119
Speaker 1: and the and the Crusoe calms are a candy, right

429
00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,560
Speaker 1: like they're they appear very often. I don't think that's

430
00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:21,280
Speaker 1: a fair like defensive you know, ceiling Caruso's one of

431
00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:24,000
Speaker 1: the best you know, defensive guards in the league to me,

432
00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:27,720
Speaker 1: But he's definitely ahead of him offensively, And we've talked

433
00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,440
Speaker 1: about that before, Like he's definitely ahead of him offensively

434
00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:34,080
Speaker 1: just from like a already skill level. He's the way

435
00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,959
Speaker 1: he's able to attack closeouts, it's just advanced for a

436
00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:40,240
Speaker 1: person in year one of You're You're one of his career,

437
00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:43,000
Speaker 1: it's just it's super advanced. The ball never sticks with him, right,

438
00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,240
Speaker 1: It's like they always talk about you, you make a

439
00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,639
Speaker 1: three second decision, right it's shoot, pass or dribble. He

440
00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:50,320
Speaker 1: always really makes the right play on that decision. And

441
00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,800
Speaker 1: you see that he when an advantage just created, he

442
00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:56,080
Speaker 1: keeps that advantage, right, Like when when Russ blows by,

443
00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:58,080
Speaker 1: When Russ blows by his guy and someone comes and

444
00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,119
Speaker 1: helps on rust, they kick out to the Reeves. Even

445
00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:01,760
Speaker 1: if Reeves doesn't have the shot, he'll kick it out

446
00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,800
Speaker 1: to where the defense is still in rotation. And Lebron

447
00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,639
Speaker 1: connects with super high i i Q players and not

448
00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,080
Speaker 1: saying other players aren't high i Q. But there was

449
00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:14,240
Speaker 1: no coincidence why he connected with Crusoe. It's no coincidence

450
00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,800
Speaker 1: why he connected with Reeves. Reeves is playing too well. Again,

451
00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,119
Speaker 1: I don't think tonight is an aberration, like he's been

452
00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,720
Speaker 1: playing well before. He I forgot what his injury was,

453
00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,800
Speaker 1: but he got hurt and was out because hamstring injuries

454
00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,840
Speaker 1: him out, Okay, hamsing, Yeah, those are those can be tricky.

455
00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:31,920
Speaker 1: So I think he was out a cute a few weeks.

456
00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,119
Speaker 1: But yeah, man, he just connects and his ability. You

457
00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,520
Speaker 1: talked about the pump a side step three like his

458
00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:38,919
Speaker 1: shot looks clean too. I think he's a legit shooter.

459
00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,000
Speaker 1: I don't know he's shooting for three this year. I

460
00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,600
Speaker 1: think it's around or something. But yeah, just a legit

461
00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,239
Speaker 1: player that we have and hopefully can add to this

462
00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,920
Speaker 1: rotation with a bunch of guys if they're not on tonight.

463
00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:50,720
Speaker 1: I think he'll play, and I think he can even

464
00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,480
Speaker 1: start on this team. I don't. I think he just connects,

465
00:20:55,080 --> 00:21:00,600
Speaker 1: which I know we've discussed as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

466
00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:04,320
Speaker 1: for sure. And look, it's clear he has skills that

467
00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,640
Speaker 1: fit around our starts, right, Like that's very easy to see.

468
00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,680
Speaker 1: Like and again it doesn't I'm not saying like these

469
00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,280
Speaker 1: these decisions are easy, but you can tell the skill

470
00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:16,600
Speaker 1: sets that fit around three guys who need to attack

471
00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,080
Speaker 1: the rim who aren't jump shooters, like you need jump

472
00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:23,159
Speaker 1: shooting around them, and preferably two way guys who are

473
00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,359
Speaker 1: jump shooters around them. And if they can attack close

474
00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,280
Speaker 1: out that they can pump they get to the line,

475
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,040
Speaker 1: if they can get offensive rebounds. You know, he seems

476
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,080
Speaker 1: to have a knack for offensive rebounding at the free

477
00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:36,000
Speaker 1: throw line, which is a really strange skill to to have. Like,

478
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,280
Speaker 1: that's not just that's just a strange skill, right, that's

479
00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,520
Speaker 1: not something you bring up in person's list of skills.

480
00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,440
Speaker 1: That's something he does. He loves that, he gets tap

481
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,359
Speaker 1: outs a lot. It's just little stuff that he doesn't. Again,

482
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,840
Speaker 1: the cruise upcoms are unfair, but it's tough not to

483
00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:50,520
Speaker 1: go to that, right, it's tough not to compare because

484
00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,480
Speaker 1: that's the last player we've had kind of who did

485
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,119
Speaker 1: those little things that stand out. It jumps out on

486
00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,000
Speaker 1: a team with a bunch of players who don't do

487
00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:00,520
Speaker 1: those little things right. And as much as I pay

488
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,320
Speaker 1: for White Ellington, he's not a guy that does the

489
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 1: little things. He's just not. He's a shooter. That's what

490
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,439
Speaker 1: he's been paid in to his old career. That's why

491
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,240
Speaker 1: I hope he keeps shooting. Keeps shooting, Wayne, please fire

492
00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,640
Speaker 1: those up. But but yeah, that's that's my point on Reefs.

493
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:13,240
Speaker 1: But go ahead, I kind of know the question and

494
00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:17,000
Speaker 1: ask go ahead. Yeah. So so the question, so this

495
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 1: was that was that was a very nice announced. You know,

496
00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:24,080
Speaker 1: you mentioned Caruso. Obviously, the reason why we're making the

497
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,880
Speaker 1: irony of the situation is they're both white guys. Uh,

498
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 1: they both look like that they in appearance looked like

499
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 1: they shouldn't belong in the league. Um. You know, that

500
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 1: was the usual joke that just some random ball white

501
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,359
Speaker 1: guy that was on this Lakers scene that the Leakers

502
00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,080
Speaker 1: fans are casting up. Um, and you know, but now

503
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,560
Speaker 1: everybody's talking about him being an all defensive player. Anyways. UM,

504
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:47,240
Speaker 1: so you said something interesting and one of the things

505
00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 1: you said, Um, of the many things you said about Reeves,

506
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 1: is that Braun connects with high i Q guys. And

507
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:59,639
Speaker 1: that is a very fascinating, very fascinating observation because, um,

508
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Speaker 1: that it is something that I've at least seen like

509
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:03,760
Speaker 1: when I played in high school, like even when I

510
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,360
Speaker 1: played directly, even if you play a pickup basketball, when

511
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 1: you play with like smart guys, guys who know how

512
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 1: to space the floor, Guys who kind of recognize what's

513
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,159
Speaker 1: happening on offensive defense and know who's who's on a

514
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,440
Speaker 1: roll and stuff like that. And you play with them,

515
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 1: even if it's just pick up at your local gym

516
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,639
Speaker 1: or something like that, it changes the enjoyment that you

517
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 1: have with the game, right, And when you're playing with

518
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,919
Speaker 1: people like that, UM, you just have fun even if

519
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:30,640
Speaker 1: you're not doing anything. You know, like even if you're

520
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:34,200
Speaker 1: just making outlet passes or playing some defense and getting

521
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,120
Speaker 1: a couple of shots up. UM. And that's the part

522
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 1: that's so fascinating with with this dynamic that Ostar Reaves

523
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,440
Speaker 1: has with I mean it's not only Braun. He has

524
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 1: the same dynamic with Russ. He has the same dynamic

525
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 1: with with Anthony Davis to some degree to as well.

526
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Speaker 1: That he just fits right and and it's very clear

527
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,200
Speaker 1: he has a high i Q as a mature understanding.

528
00:23:55,600 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 1: But right now, Rog, we've been watching another young Laker player. Um.

529
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 1: He asked to play that role UM in the starting

530
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,400
Speaker 1: in the starting uh, well, you know, with the starters

531
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 1: and next to our big three, and it has been

532
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,199
Speaker 1: very painful to watch. And so I'm gonna say my

533
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 1: part because I don't want to put words in your mouth,

534
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, I I'm a little more opinionated

535
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 1: about this. I think th HC absolutely does not fit

536
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 1: with our Big three, at least not right. And it

537
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 1: has been really, really difficult, uh to watch him play

538
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 1: next to him, even even at the start of this game.

539
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 1: I know he had a three, uh you know, and

540
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:34,959
Speaker 1: I think Bradley had two threes. He hit won three.

541
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:39,399
Speaker 1: It is really difficult to watch him, um fit with

542
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:43,160
Speaker 1: those guys because I always make the joke certain players,

543
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,120
Speaker 1: young players, you can see when they have the ball

544
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 1: in their hands. You can see like when you're watching them,

545
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,640
Speaker 1: you could tell like their brain is trying to process

546
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 1: what's happening around them. And when I watched th HD

547
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 1: playing next to the Big three, I feel like that

548
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 1: happens too much, like he doesn't know like his his

549
00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,880
Speaker 1: if he had to do it on instinct, he's attacking

550
00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:02,440
Speaker 1: the room immediately. But the fact that he's playing next

551
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,919
Speaker 1: to braun a D and Russ, it almost feels like

552
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 1: it puts pressure on him as a player that oh shit,

553
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: if I don't make this, if I don't make the

554
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 1: right decision, like we could waste his possession. Or if

555
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 1: I don't make the right decision and it's not a

556
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 1: set action, maybe I should have given it to Russ.

557
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 1: Maybe I should have given it to Maybe I should

558
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 1: give it to he did I make the right play.

559
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 1: And a perfect example of this is um Teach comes

560
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 1: down the floor in the first quarter. He tried to

561
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 1: throw two entry passes I think to Braun. One may

562
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 1: have been Braun, one may have been somebody else I

563
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 1: don't remember. Both of them got picked off and he's

564
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 1: the one making the entry pass. So like I was, like,

565
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 1: I can fire off a tweet right now. I'm not

566
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 1: gonna do it, but I'm just watching it. You know.

567
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,160
Speaker 1: Obviously we won the game. He played better, that's fine.

568
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,199
Speaker 1: But my thing is like if a guy struggles to

569
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 1: make reads like that, right, like to make an entry

570
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 1: pass after Braun is stealed the smaller guy behind him, like,

571
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 1: maybe it's just not for him yet. He's not ready

572
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 1: to be in that position yet. And know a lot

573
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 1: of people are saying, you know, well, we're paying a

574
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 1: ten million dollars. He's been with with the Lakers for

575
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,399
Speaker 1: two years now, Um, we have to develop them. But

576
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 1: when you have if you don't look at them in

577
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,360
Speaker 1: terms of like Austin Reaves requires development. You just look

578
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 1: at it based on what fits what fits with this team.

579
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 1: Like it almost if somebody came to me and say, hey,

580
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 1: you know what, maybe we should try Austin Reaves and

581
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 1: said th ht and play him next to every Bradley, like,

582
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 1: I would be like, you know what, why not? You know,

583
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:29,160
Speaker 1: we're still shorthanded. Why not see see what that looks like? What?

584
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 1: What do you think about that idea that like, maybe

585
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 1: it's not it's not development, it's not mine. Let's just

586
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 1: take the development part out of it. Let's take the

587
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 1: money part out of it. How much do they make

588
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 1: if you just have to take those two guys? Um,

589
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 1: what do you think about the idea of Reeves getting

590
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 1: more minutes over t T or maybe even being in

591
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Speaker 1: the starting spot next time. So I'm gonna say, like,

592
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,119
Speaker 1: just to give th HD a little credit here, I

593
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 1: think he has gone very defensively right, and I think

594
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 1: that's why he starts, even though it's a little confusing

595
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 1: because sometimes he'll start and it will be Russ still

596
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 1: taking the main deep signment or you know, like that

597
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 1: doesn't really make sense to me, Like again, rusted a

598
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 1: great job on Jayson Tatum the last time they played.

599
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 1: But I think the point of tech she's starting is

600
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 1: his defense because it's very clearly offense isn't there. I

601
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 1: thought you made it. That's why I wanted to have

602
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 1: you on, because it's tough for to have these conversations,

603
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 1: you know, over just uh messages. But I thought you

604
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 1: made a great point on your space that you did

605
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 1: in the afternoon. I don't remember what day it was,

606
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 1: but you said that Carusoe knew who he was, right,

607
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,159
Speaker 1: Like Crusoe had no qualms of who he was going

608
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 1: to be in the league, right, Crusoe came in and

609
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 1: exactly the player he is. Austin Reeves knows exactly who

610
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,199
Speaker 1: he is. Right, Austin Reeves has no like not to

611
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 1: put a ceiling on Austin Reeves. You know Austin you know,

612
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 1: shoot for the stars kid. But like I'm saying, like

613
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 1: Austin knows exactly like his role on this team th

614
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 1: H you talked about th H T missed the post

615
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 1: up to Lebron right, like he couldn't find t HD

616
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 1: wants to be Lebron in that situation. Right, Like th

617
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 1: HD still sees himself as a player who wants to

618
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: be Russ who swe Lebron, So his mindset is still

619
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 1: in there. So that's like to me, his decisions all

620
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: still go back to that, which is why the fit

621
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 1: looks so ugly because he's not His mindset isn't of

622
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 1: a three n D player, which is what that's starting

623
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 1: lineup is begging for. His mindset is of a I'm

624
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,360
Speaker 1: a star to right, and he just got paid as one,

625
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 1: Like the Lakers obviously supported supported that mindset. I guess

626
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like they paid him ten

627
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: million dollars a year with very little I mean, he's

628
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:33,160
Speaker 1: showing flashes obviously of super star potential, but they've supported

629
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 1: into that idea and starting him as another a kid

630
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 1: like this is gonna be yours one day, you know,

631
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 1: like kind of in that in that kind of manner here,

632
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 1: And I think that's why it looks so stark. And

633
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: this team definitely has goals that don't match th HD's

634
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: development line. You know, it's kind of like we're doing

635
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 1: two things at once. And I do think there is

636
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 1: like I think there's an argument for it, where like

637
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 1: the ceiling of this team is higher probably with if

638
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: th HD hits his ceiling at years old. But he's

639
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 1: a twenty one year old gard who still believes that

640
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 1: he can be in the Lebron or Russ role, which

641
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 1: is makes it so starting and I would love to

642
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: start Austin. Like I think, you know, that might be

643
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 1: the right move here. I think th needs possessions where

644
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 1: he needs better spacing around him. I think it's it's

645
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: such a disgrace that he plays with the worst spacing lineup,

646
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: like just just you know what I mean, like just

647
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 1: in a in terms of of how like think about

648
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 1: it for him where he starts the game where he's

649
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 1: the guy that needs to hit outside shots and that's

650
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 1: just not his skill levels. So like, I think that's

651
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 1: where it is. THHD still has a belief that he's

652
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: gonna be Lebron or Russ or whatever. And you know

653
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 1: that's fine, you don't. He should have, you know, aspirations

654
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: as high as he wants to. But when you play

655
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 1: a kid like Reeves, it just fits. It's why it

656
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: jumps off the page. Right, Reeves does all the small

657
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: things that things players like him need to do stay

658
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: in this league. Right like players like TCD have the

659
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 1: ball in the hands there the shot the shock traders

660
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: and you see that when he gets the ball right,

661
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: So he'll like get the ball and he'll like stare

662
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 1: and he'll stop as if he's the main guy. Like

663
00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:00,080
Speaker 1: he'll just be like, Okay, it's my turn. Now. He

664
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: does too sometimes he does too much of the let

665
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 1: me set up my isolate, let me read set up

666
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 1: my isolation, because you know, I'm about to take this

667
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 1: guy to the rim or whatever it is. And um no, no,

668
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I think that you know, this

669
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 1: is that that human element, the human nature part that

670
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 1: that I think is a huge thing that like, I

671
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 1: think it's a blind spot in Vogel And I'm not

672
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: gonna get into voga bashing and do that enough myself

673
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: on the timeline, but it is. I genuinely think it's

674
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 1: a gap. And you know, it may not have it.

675
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: Maybe Volgo does want to play reads. Maybe there's some

676
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 1: um collectual related politics on the back end. Maybe there's

677
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 1: some financial politics on the back end, whatever it may be.

678
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: You know, maybe he got promised a starting spot with

679
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 1: this team. Um if he agreed, you know, like and

680
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,719
Speaker 1: and they want the expecting to get better whatever it is.

681
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 1: But I agree with you, like the development. We don't

682
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 1: have time to develop PHT not in the not with

683
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 1: the starters UM. And even aside, if we take the

684
00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 1: development part out, like you're putting him in a position

685
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: where the very thing he needs the most the ball

686
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 1: in his hands and to dribble around a little bit.

687
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: You're asking him to try and figure that out between

688
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 1: three other ball dominant guys UM, regardless of how elite

689
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: passers you know, like Russ Russe and Braun Uh maybe,

690
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: And I think it jacks up his rhythm. I think

691
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,479
Speaker 1: it jacks up everybody else's rhythm. And that's you know,

692
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: just something that's been going on UM for a while now,

693
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 1: and hopefully it kind of figures itself out. But you know, like, um,

694
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: I think it was pick up Pete. He's the one

695
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: who posted that tweet saying that like he's shooting or

696
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 1: some extraordinarily bad number like outside of the restricted area.

697
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 1: I just tweeted. I said, look, I can't even be

698
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: mad at Tailor. Yea, these numbers are readily available to

699
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 1: our coaching staff. Like what is their coaching staff doing?

700
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: Like why would you put him in a position to

701
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: be a three in D guy when he's not hitting

702
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: any shots outside of the restricted area, like you're you're

703
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 1: literally asking him to fail and then you know you'll

704
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: get people on the time and I say, oh, guy sucks.

705
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 1: You know, like, why don't we give this guy ten

706
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: million dollars? And why don't we give it to Alex Cruz.

707
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: We might as well, you know, who is competing for

708
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: the market for d H D. We should have just

709
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 1: given Like it's unfair to tailor, you know what I mean,

710
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: because he's being point in a position that's not successful

711
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 1: for him. So, you know, I hope that the situation

712
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 1: resolves itself, but it feels like it's going in that direction,

713
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: especially with like if they if Frank contin Tin used

714
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: to play Anthony David's at the five um and that

715
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: makes up his minutes at the four and the five

716
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 1: and not play Dwight, that sort of thing, Like they're

717
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 1: going to have to figure that part out because no

718
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: matter what he's doing on the defense too much, all

719
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: the easy layups because Memphis doesn't get back on defense

720
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: and we build a lead and Braun is brilliant yet again,

721
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: just like the Boston game to start that game, but

722
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: then everything kinds that falls apart after that. But at

723
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: the corner he puts Dwight in, and now things kind

724
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,719
Speaker 1: of now the guy who's cutting is brought the guy

725
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 1: who's taking the jumpers m off of Russ's moves and

726
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: stuff like that, or it's a d or is Dwight

727
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 1: for the dump off? So like that's the part that

728
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 1: you know, I hope the Lakers, But that's really what

729
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: my thoughts in regards him. I'm hoping that he I

730
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 1: want him to be successful because I think that's important

731
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 1: for him, but it's I don't think it's gonna happen

732
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: the way that they're currently trying to do. Yeah, it's

733
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 1: the idea of fitting like a square peg into a

734
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: round hole, right, like they're trying to force th HD

735
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 1: into a three D role. But also no, no, you're good,

736
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 1: I hear you. Um, yeah, they're trying to fit th

737
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: HD into like, uh, they're trying to do a square

738
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 1: peg into a round hole right with t HD trying

739
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: to force him into this U three and D roll

740
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: And that's just not what he wants to be as well.

741
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: And you can just tell as a player, he's a

742
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: guy that wants to ball in his hands, and we're

743
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: trying to develop him into that while also playing him

744
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 1: next to Lebron and Russ, which is just a really

745
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 1: frustrating thing to watch. And like you said, it's not

746
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 1: something that you know, you can blame Tailing on, like

747
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: it's not his fault. That's just kind of where we

748
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: are with the situation right now. And I think he's

749
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: going to continue to start until Ariza's back, Like he's

750
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 1: our he's our wing defender, I guess for right now,

751
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 1: and they're just gonna keep going with that until until

752
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: Ariza or maybe Kendrick Nunn gets back. But he's the

753
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 1: guy that they're gonna throw on wing defenders. They don't

754
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 1: want Russ, they don'tant Lebron to be the guy as

755
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: the main guy on defense against the other big time

756
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: perimeter players. So yeah, I think it's a it's a

757
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 1: tough conversation. I think Reeves has a case though, to

758
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 1: be made if he continues to play like this, he

759
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 1: continues to shoot like this on a championship team. To me,

760
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 1: you have to earn every minute you get, and I

761
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,399
Speaker 1: feel like there shouldn't be any given minutes other than

762
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 1: the Big three other than the stars. Every other minute

763
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 1: should be earned, and we saw that. It's kind of

764
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 1: funny because we saw that Taylor last year. If you remember,

765
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: he beat out West Matthews. West Matthews, you know, a

766
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: veteran player, a good player, signed probably for less money

767
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 1: than he could have gotten other places. And THHD beat

768
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: him out on the rotation because he was playing that

769
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: three and D role. His jumper was going during that time, right,

770
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 1: And and we know we had fascinations about, oh man,

771
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: if Taylor has his jumper, you know, like we have

772
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: a crazy we have a crazy player here. And the

773
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 1: jumper just has not entered this season. And that's you know,

774
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 1: that's something that just happens. But yeah, like if Reeves

775
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: is the better player, then the better players should play

776
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 1: on the team that's trying to win. That's just how

777
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,399
Speaker 1: how it should be. But you know, it's a it's

778
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: a thin line to walk here, I guess is it

779
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 1: when you play pay a guy ten million dollars a year.

780
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 1: You talked about the politics of it, like that's definitely involved,

781
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: Like that's it's tough to bench a guy making that

782
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: much money, you know, So it's a tough conversation. Yeah,

783
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 1: And um, you know, that's one of the things that like, um,

784
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 1: I've been trying to kind of wrap my head around

785
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,800
Speaker 1: you know, Vogel. Vogel is a very diplomatic guy. Sure

786
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: he and I was listening to uh the Liquor Film

787
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 1: podcast earlier today, and um, I thought Pete on LA

788
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: pod he made a really nice point like outside of

789
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 1: like the top four guys, nobody is making so much money.

790
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: Nobody is making so much money that like they can't

791
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: be benched, you know what I mean, Like, uh, that

792
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 1: km Beigemore got benched at some point and he's been

793
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: sitting on the bench the entire time. I don't think

794
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 1: I agree with him being benched for the way that

795
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,399
Speaker 1: he has, Like he does bone headed stuff, but not

796
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: like not to deliberately shorthand or so I was like,

797
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 1: Deander was objectively bad and so he got bench, you

798
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: know what I mean, And he's back in rotation. Man,

799
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: I don't look bad. I was like, oh my god,

800
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: we're gonna play. I was hoping we played bass a

801
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: little bit more, you know, but eating at minutes whatever,

802
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: that's fine. Rondo being out the rotation objectively bad. So

803
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: he's been out the rotation whatever, that's fine. But my

804
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: thing is like we have a very diplomatic coach who

805
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 1: is trying to you know, manage of the not the egos,

806
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: but just manage everybody's expectations. Um, and you know, whether

807
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 1: he's being empowered by our front office to do so,

808
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 1: Like it is very clear that there are certain moves

809
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: that he has to make or just certain certain adjustments

810
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,800
Speaker 1: he has to make that can allow this team to

811
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: be to be successful. And I don't know if he's

812
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 1: not being allowed to do it or if he's just

813
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,359
Speaker 1: apprehensive because he's a very diplomatic guy. Um that that

814
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,879
Speaker 1: you know, we have to see what happens. But look, man,

815
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: like I want Taylor to be successful. Like at some

816
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: point Frank has got to go to Taylor or has

817
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: to go Like can you imagine what the film sessions

818
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: are like? Like I made this joke on answer when

819
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 1: I sat there with Jason, like what would you when

820
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: there's bad games like bad bad games like the Memphis game,

821
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 1: and you see like like Taylor's had some place, he's

822
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 1: had some possessions where like he just does something, I'll

823
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 1: be like, oh, like I had like this lookout my face,

824
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: like just like I had like some bad milk or

825
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 1: something like that. I would be like, oh God, like

826
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,240
Speaker 1: I wish you hadn't driven because you just got stripped

827
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,320
Speaker 1: or you took it, you know, like you're not gonna

828
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:08,919
Speaker 1: take it with your left hand, so the team knew

829
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: you're gonna take it with your right and they stripped it,

830
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 1: or or the challenges shot you fell down. Now I

831
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: got a five on four going the other way, Like

832
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 1: they're just some plays that stuff like that that happens,

833
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 1: And I think to myself, it's like, what what are

834
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 1: they saying to each other in the film room, Like

835
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 1: when this happens? Are they asking Candon when he thought

836
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,760
Speaker 1: was gonna happen? Or is somebody looking at Frank and saying, dude,

837
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 1: this guy is being put in a really tough position

838
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 1: to have to score between like three nonshooters, Like what

839
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: are we doing here? But we guys stop doing that,

840
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: And you know, I don't know is the politics? Is

841
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 1: it that? Who knows? Whatever it is. But like these

842
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 1: lineup combinations have to eventually get figured out. We can't

843
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: be like in like this weird data collection mode of

844
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: just seeing which lineups are asked and which ones are

845
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 1: good to try and figure out what's going on because

846
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: it's affecting the guy that did not play today. Anthony Davis. Um,

847
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 1: he has been up and down all season. I know

848
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 1: you wanted to talk about him, like he has struggled,

849
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,760
Speaker 1: like with this, playing the four, sometimes playing the starting

850
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: the game at five, what the rotation is gonna end

851
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,839
Speaker 1: up being? And it's junking up a lot of stuff. Um,

852
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:13,919
Speaker 1: and he didn't play today. So I'm sure we're gonna

853
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 1: see a lot of you know, obviously, I'm sure some

854
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: folks are joking. Some people are not joking. Um, you know,

855
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 1: he's gonna be in the trade machine with that coming around. Yeah,

856
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 1: you know, I don't even get into those. Like I

857
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 1: even hate when hey, hey, when people come at me

858
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: and ask, you know, Russ trades like that's not happening,

859
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 1: Like just you know, throw that, throw that away. Russ

860
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: is on this team and and Russ is gonna be

861
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: on this team when the playoffs start, you know next year.

862
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 1: Who who knows? The NBA is a weird league. Things

863
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 1: changed very rapidly. But Russ is on this team for

864
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 1: good before we get into a d because I think

865
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 1: that's the last thing I really want to discuss with you,

866
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: because you know you have strong opinions on that. To me, like,

867
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 1: I think I've been advocating for Wayne to start, and

868
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: I sent you that, you know, in privately, I've sent

869
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 1: you that athletic kind of post before the season started, right,

870
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 1: we got this, uh, we were sold these bags of

871
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 1: you know, this bag of dreams of like this was

872
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 1: this is the starting lineup. And I don't think you know,

873
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 1: people joke about shams and he does some weird stuff

874
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 1: for sure, to be first, I think it's a weird.

875
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 1: Some of the weird stuff that he does weird, but

876
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 1: he you know, he reported that the Lakers were gonna

877
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: start Russ, Wayne, Trevor, Reza, Lebron and A D. That

878
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 1: was the five we were going to start, right, and

879
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 1: that was the identity of this team. And to me,

880
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,760
Speaker 1: like a reason's injury, I get it like he's been out,

881
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 1: but I feel like that shouldn't change your whole team's identity.

882
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 1: And I think that's what we've done. I think that

883
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: DeAndre Jordan's you know, him starting as many games. Did

884
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 1: you talked about the film room with th h T.

885
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 1: I kind of imagine the film room with DeAndre Jordan's like,

886
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: what do you like? What do you say? Like, no,

887
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 1: I'm no because we both rewatched these games, right, like

888
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 1: we watched a lot of these games, like like you

889
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: see that and there's just what do you do? They

890
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 1: just moved the clip forward, you know, fast forward fifteen

891
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 1: seconds like um no, I'm serious, like there's nothing you

892
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: can even Yeah, okay, this is this is me being serious,

893
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: Like I would love I would love to be Voyer

894
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 1: or be a fly on the wall just to see.

895
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 1: I don't even need to hear the conversation. Let me

896
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 1: just look at the fate. Like I've been to lagers

897
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 1: practice facility before it's I've seen like that little theater

898
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 1: room where they sit down somewhere I want to be

899
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 1: with the screen behind me, and I wanted them to

900
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 1: run the film, and I want to look at the

901
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 1: players faces and right into DeAndre Jordan's eyes when he

902
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 1: when we see those plays where he's like guarding nobody,

903
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 1: Like the guy comes off the screen, he doesn't go

904
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 1: to contest it, but then he doesn't recover back. So

905
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: then the guy who's you know, like Aby Bradley, He's like,

906
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 1: holy sh it, dude, what am I supposed to do.

907
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 1: Am I supposed to get the bowman? Or am I

908
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 1: just want to see what his face looks like, because

909
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,879
Speaker 1: he has got to be smiling for all the all

910
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 1: the the checks that he must be cashing, just floating around. It's,

911
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 1: oh my god, it's got to be insane. But we

912
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: did it for twenty games. Isn't that crazy? Man? I

913
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: was I was wrong about DeAndre Jordan, like I wasn't.

914
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: I guess watching enough nets games, like I thought he

915
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: could have been. Uh. And me and Jason have talked

916
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: about this a fact simile of JaVale McGee, right, And

917
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,320
Speaker 1: to me, like the drop, the gap between JaVale McGee

918
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 1: and Jondre Jordan's shouldn't be this big, but it's this

919
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 1: big because the motor gap is this big now, right,

920
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: like the gap between DeAndre Jordan does the path of

921
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 1: least resistance every single time, Like that's just what he does.

922
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 1: I don't even know if it's conscious. I don't want

923
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: to get into Deondre Jordan more. But this isn't even

924
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,839
Speaker 1: about DeAndre Jordan. I guess this is just about how long.

925
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 1: I guess we're talking about adjustments take to get made right.

926
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 1: And to me, like that's why I'm I'm so in

927
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: for starting Wayne. And I said this with Jason yesterday,

928
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 1: like shooters are so expensive in this league, Like it's

929
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: expensive to get shooting, and I feel like we have

930
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: one in Wayne. We're having a Monk as well. But

931
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 1: I just I told you yesterday, like I don't think

932
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,399
Speaker 1: Monk has any chance of starting, like a six one

933
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:57,399
Speaker 1: guard that's not defensive, like defensive minded, like there's no

934
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 1: chance to hew to me he starts. But Wayne, you know,

935
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: Wayne's not good defender. He's his motor defensively isn't good

936
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,439
Speaker 1: as well. I just think like this is the bag

937
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 1: we were sold. We have four of those guys. What

938
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 1: we had for those guys healthy we'll see with a D.

939
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 1: But that's who i'd like to start. What do you

940
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 1: think about Wayne starting? Because I wanted to ask you

941
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 1: about that because I think that's the middle line we

942
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,399
Speaker 1: can kind of go with here, because I think he's

943
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 1: enough of a VET where like you can bence th

944
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: HD for Wayne Ellington and no one bats an eye, right,

945
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 1: that's just like, okay, that's something that happened. You start

946
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 1: Austin Reeves over t HD and we can talk about

947
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: how much. We'd like this to be in a perfect vacuum,

948
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 1: in a perfect world. That text, that text are us coming?

949
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,479
Speaker 1: Like the moment that gets it out, there's a text,

950
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 1: go he's right, and Rob pola as as he as

951
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 1: he sees that hit the cry on for sure. Yeah. So,

952
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: like what do you think about Wayne starting? Because I've

953
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: been a proponent of that, and I just I feel

954
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: like that would be the perfect again, like I said,

955
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 1: like if reefs could start, it would be in a

956
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 1: perfect world. Maybe Reefs starts, But we don't live in

957
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: a perfect world. We live in a place where all

958
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: these you talked about the human element, that's just part

959
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: of it. It's not bad that politics matter, like politics

960
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,399
Speaker 1: matter and everycentulation sometimes they matter in a good way,

961
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 1: you know, like sometimes there are places where politics matter

962
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 1: in a good way. But yeah, I just I want

963
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 1: to ask you about that before we get into a

964
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: d What do you think about Wayne starting or my

965
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 1: proponent of that? Yeah, yeah, no, I think that's a

966
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,720
Speaker 1: good idea. So like if you if you take um

967
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 1: like all the guards that we have, and then you

968
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 1: just kind of cross even in your mind because you

969
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 1: rewatch a lot of games. You can watch a lot

970
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 1: of games, Like if you think about how teams try

971
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,839
Speaker 1: to attack the Lakers, like we get spammed with pick

972
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 1: and roll like a lot, Like whether it's a D

973
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: at the five or somebody else at the five, teams

974
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 1: are trying to you know, pick and roll us to

975
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: death to start games. They're not trying to go to

976
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 1: the interior. They're not trying to kill us in transition,

977
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 1: like unless it's off of like a miss or something

978
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 1: like that, or turnover, they're not trying to do it.

979
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: So why not play two guys who can you know,

980
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: somewhat navigate a pick and roll? Like Ellington isn't the best,

981
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 1: like he's not Avery Bradley level, um, as it relates

982
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 1: to like shedding screens technique, but um what's it called?

983
00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 1: Ellington uses screens himself, so he understand ends how to

984
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,240
Speaker 1: navigate them because he knows how to use them. Um

985
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,800
Speaker 1: you know, like like in football, like uh, they always

986
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: say like wide receivers turn into defensive backs or defensive

987
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 1: backs can turn to wide receivers because it's the same

988
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 1: core principles, same rounds, same same reads, the way that

989
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 1: you read the key being stuff I got, So why

990
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: not do that like, I wouldn't be against the idea

991
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 1: even strictly from a data collection purpose, like let let

992
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: Ellington play Next Day Bradley. See if it sucks, like

993
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: he obviously provides the space thing that we need. And

994
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 1: if it sucks, then all right, go back to what

995
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 1: it is, like, what do you have to lose In

996
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,360
Speaker 1: the regular season, we already have enough of a sample

997
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 1: size to know that th HD has a lot of

998
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,959
Speaker 1: struggle with the other guys when it comes to making

999
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 1: his reads and just his shooting in general, which hasn't

1000
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 1: come around this season. So why not just play a

1001
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: guy who does really well shooting. The other part of

1002
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,479
Speaker 1: th HD that people aren't talking about or maybe haven't

1003
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 1: talked about enough. I know you guys talked about he

1004
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 1: is getting hammered on screens, and he is struggling to

1005
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 1: get around screens. He's almost like two three steps behind

1006
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 1: the the ball handler when the screen comes and we're

1007
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,359
Speaker 1: supposed to be thinking here like, Okay, you know, he's

1008
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,240
Speaker 1: got long wingspan, stuff I got um you know, Dwight

1009
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 1: or a d is calling out the coverage or what

1010
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 1: he's supposed to do. But he you know, and and

1011
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,479
Speaker 1: it's again I can't be mad at him because he's

1012
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 1: being put in that position, but he's having trouble getting

1013
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 1: around them. Like Desmond Bane. There was a three that

1014
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 1: he hit in the first quarter where there was nothing complex.

1015
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 1: Desmond Bane was just standing on the wing and he

1016
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: was waiting for the set to start. As soon as

1017
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 1: the set starts, he goes and he takes like a

1018
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:34,240
Speaker 1: dribble handoff into an open three um And Desmond Bane

1019
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:35,879
Speaker 1: has like the arms of a t rex, Like he's

1020
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 1: got super small arms. So you would think that even

1021
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 1: if t HD is coming late, he can get to

1022
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 1: that shot teaching like he can't get around that screen

1023
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 1: in time, Like he can't shed the screen quickly enough.

1024
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 1: So why don't just play a guy who's used to

1025
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 1: doing it and and see what happens. And and that's

1026
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:54,399
Speaker 1: my thing, Like if you've seen people, if you've seen

1027
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 1: opposing teams use the same exact strategy over and over again.

1028
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 1: Like the first thing for me I would if I

1029
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 1: was vocal, was like, all right, people are pick and

1030
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 1: rolling us to death. Let me just play my best

1031
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 1: two shooters that can defend a pick and roll. So

1032
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 1: if it's if it has to be Bradley has to

1033
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 1: be one of those guys who's the next guy is

1034
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 1: the monk uh or is it Russ And is it

1035
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,439
Speaker 1: Russe and Bradley or is it Russe and Monk or

1036
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 1: you know what does it have to be? Um? And

1037
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 1: you know, like why not try it? Give it a

1038
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 1: chance to see what happens. So U I'm with you, Matt,

1039
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 1: like what do we have to lose? Like do it

1040
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 1: in the regular season so that we can figure out

1041
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: exactly what's going on with this team as opposed to

1042
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 1: doing exactly the same thing over and over again and

1043
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 1: then being upset that we didn't get the result that

1044
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 1: we wanted. Yeah, and just last thing on ely thing

1045
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: because again and only think is not a championship you know,

1046
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 1: changing player. I said that last night, Like it's not

1047
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 1: like I'm standing. You know, people have stand pages. I'm

1048
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 1: not standing. It's just you know what I mean, Like

1049
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 1: if he just fits in again, like doing these spaces

1050
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 1: after every game, you can sometimes you can lose the

1051
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 1: bigger picture, right because you know you're so emotional games

1052
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 1: every game just like okay, what happened tonight? Know what

1053
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 1: happened tonight? And then what happened tonight? And then like

1054
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 1: five games go by, you're like, oh shit, like I

1055
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 1: missed you know, the whole trend here, And I think

1056
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 1: it's just it fits into a larger picture to me,

1057
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 1: So what's the main The main thing about this team

1058
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 1: is their stars. Right, it's Lebron, Russ and a D

1059
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 1: and everything around that are stars together have a one

1060
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: point three net rating for the season, you know, like

1061
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: we're plus That means we're basically playing neutral basketball, which

1062
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 1: makes sense because we're five hundred, right, but we're five.

1063
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 1: But you your stars should be like what usually would

1064
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 1: happened would be like the stars would have like a

1065
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 1: plus eight, right, and then the rest of the teams

1066
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:35,399
Speaker 1: like a plus one. Then you have like a good

1067
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 1: net rating. But our stars are plus one point three.

1068
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,760
Speaker 1: Like that's an issue. That's a that's a process issue

1069
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: to me, Like every Bradley hitting six threes is you know,

1070
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 1: it's nice, it's just not something that's gonna happen nightly.

1071
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 1: And you're also not gonna play okay see nightly. Like

1072
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 1: that's where I'm thinking. That's why I advocate for Wayne

1073
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 1: because he just, to me, he's the face of an issue.

1074
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:56,359
Speaker 1: He's not the it's not Wayne Ellington being the fix

1075
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 1: of the issue, or just like you said, Austin Reeves

1076
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 1: doesn't change you from a championship level team. He just

1077
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 1: changes your identity. Right, It's like a it's a move

1078
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 1: to an identity. So that's all I just want to

1079
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 1: say with Wayne, because that's my point, and I think

1080
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 1: you kind of agree with that as well. Right, It's

1081
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 1: not you're saying like Osto Reaves isn't so much better

1082
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 1: than th HD. Like it's not like that. It's just

1083
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: like he fits the team, and it's like and putting

1084
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 1: him in it fits in ideology that this team needs

1085
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 1: to win, Like it's not about who's better than the

1086
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 1: other player, right, And we both want th HD to

1087
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,280
Speaker 1: succeed as well. So that's kind of a bigger picture here.

1088
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 1: Our stars are plus one point three net ready for

1089
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 1: the season, and that's awful for your superstars, Like you

1090
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 1: should be winning those out of much better place, especially

1091
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 1: with the schedule that we played and a lot of that.

1092
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 1: DeAndre Jordan too, But yeah, yeah, no, no, I was

1093
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: I was gonna say actually before because I knew that

1094
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:41,840
Speaker 1: I was gonna gonna talk to you today, I actually

1095
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: looked up so I looked at the four man just

1096
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 1: plus minuses right for fore man lineups, and I didn't

1097
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 1: with excluding DeAndre Jordan's like so no no lineups. So

1098
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 1: I mean he would have been in the format land

1099
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 1: up anyways, But I just wanted to see, like, which

1100
00:49:56,000 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 1: which fourth player looks really good, uh, next to like

1101
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 1: our big three, right, regardless of whoever that fifth person is. Uh.

1102
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 1: And obviously the fifth person makes a huge difference to

1103
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 1: you know, it's not fair to say that the fifth

1104
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 1: person can't jump up in the entire lineup. Um. But

1105
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 1: it's like I was looking at it and there's like

1106
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 1: the Big three plus tent Baysmore have played like thirty

1107
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,320
Speaker 1: minutes together or something like that, and it's like, a

1108
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 1: it's zero, it's a neutral zero. And then it's like

1109
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 1: every Bradley's the you other guy, it's a neutral zero.

1110
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 1: Th h, it's like a plus three or it was

1111
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 1: like or it may have been minus I can't remember

1112
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 1: exactly what it was. But it's just like all these

1113
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: different configurations, not including Wayne Ellington, not including like they're

1114
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 1: all like just neutral there. They're nothing is happening, like

1115
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:41,839
Speaker 1: that's extraordinary with those lineups. So it's like if we're

1116
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,280
Speaker 1: twenty six games in, thirty games in at this point,

1117
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:47,360
Speaker 1: why not try something different, um, just to see what

1118
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 1: what what happens, and you know, maybe maybe that is

1119
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 1: what's eventually coming you know, um in the next set

1120
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 1: of ten games or something like that. Maybe maybe Vogo

1121
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 1: makes the lineup change, um and goes in that direction.

1122
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 1: But you know, like that that that's been my thing too.

1123
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 1: I'm on board with you, Like there's it seems like

1124
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:07,399
Speaker 1: there's some opportunity there, um and there's just a small adjustments.

1125
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 1: Don't play this guy, play this guy instead. Don't play

1126
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 1: these two guys at the start of game, play them

1127
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 1: as the first shift that comes in, and that that

1128
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 1: can make all the difference um with those lineups in

1129
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:21,799
Speaker 1: those net ratings. Yeah, for sure. And like my final thing,

1130
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 1: like I was wrong. I thought Wayne Ellington played zero

1131
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 1: minutes with the Big Three. He played nine total minutes

1132
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:28,359
Speaker 1: I guess in five games, which you spread that out,

1133
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 1: it's like a minute a half or something per game,

1134
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 1: nine possessions with our Big three, you know, And that's

1135
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 1: where that's where the it's not matching to me. You know,

1136
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: like if if I was sold that this was our

1137
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 1: starting line up in the beginning of the year, and

1138
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 1: now that four of those guys are healthy and those

1139
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 1: four guys played nine minutes total through you know, however

1140
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 1: many games it is, it's not really matching to me,

1141
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 1: Like there's a disconnect there that I'm kind of struggling with.

1142
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 1: But I think that's enough about them. Like before we

1143
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 1: closes out here, I wanted to ask you about a

1144
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 1: d because I think, you know, we were talking about

1145
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,120
Speaker 1: this as well, and I think it's fascinating because his

1146
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 1: numbers all match right, like they're all still superstar top

1147
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,800
Speaker 1: whatever level player points of the pain he leaves, dunks,

1148
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 1: it leads, you know, and all that stuff. When I'm

1149
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:12,799
Speaker 1: watching in the game, though he it does look like

1150
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 1: he's a little slower. It does look like he picks

1151
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 1: and chooses when he wants to put an imprint on

1152
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 1: the game. And I'm not saying he was always this

1153
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 1: aggressive score, because he wasn't like the eight hes a

1154
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 1: guy that's not an aggressive score. That's just not his mentality.

1155
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 1: He's a guy that picks his spots. Even when we

1156
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 1: got Dennis Shrewder, he had quotes like I'm trying to

1157
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 1: fit around Dennis Shrewder and we're like, you're Anthony freaking Davis.

1158
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 1: Everyone sits around and everyone fits around you, you know

1159
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 1: what I mean. But but I think defensively is where

1160
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 1: I see it. Um, I see a lack of like

1161
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:45,240
Speaker 1: a motor drop. That's that really shows in the film

1162
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 1: when you go from Anthony freaking Davis motor what it

1163
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 1: was to what I've seen this year and last year.

1164
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 1: I throw away because whatever last year was, but this

1165
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 1: year I've kind of seen that. So what do you

1166
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 1: see from a d I guess big picture obviously didn't

1167
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 1: play tonight. The Memphis game to me stood out from him,

1168
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 1: but like I wanted to you kind of get into it,

1169
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 1: because I mean you've you've kind of got into this

1170
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 1: as well. But I think it's it's really key to

1171
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 1: talk about. Yeah, you know. So the way that I

1172
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 1: kind of think of it is, um, you know, this

1173
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 1: season and this is probably a good way to just

1174
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 1: kind of zoom out before we jump into more before

1175
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 1: jumping into more detail, Like this Lakers team, regardless of

1176
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 1: how average it's been, it's had so many random swings

1177
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 1: even within games itself, like the goal of twenty and

1178
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 1: then they'll all of a sudden the opposing team of

1179
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:32,360
Speaker 1: go on a eighteen four right, that the data behind

1180
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 1: everything that you're watching is almost completely unreliable. Like there's

1181
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 1: so much of the data that we're that we have

1182
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 1: from the twenty seven games that we played this season

1183
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 1: is unreliable because you know, there will be one specific

1184
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 1: lineup that only played in one specific game and never

1185
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 1: played in any other games that looks extraordinarily good, but

1186
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 1: there's no sample size of the day, so it looks crazy.

1187
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 1: So so my thing is this, like when the my

1188
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 1: biggest gripe is that you know, the national media is

1189
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:04,840
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's a lazy business, right, NBA naturally

1190
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 1: is a very lazy business. That one of the worst

1191
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 1: things that's happened. And it's not because it's not the

1192
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 1: fault of the folks that are into analytics. One of

1193
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 1: the worst things that's happened is people are substituting at

1194
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 1: analytics too as a substitute to actually like watching the film,

1195
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 1: And this is not this. This is not the ship

1196
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 1: on that community. So I don't want anybody to who

1197
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 1: was listening to think that's what I'm doing. But because

1198
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 1: the data is so unreliable with what's going on, with

1199
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 1: the Lakers team this season, um with with the swings

1200
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 1: and stuff I got momentum swings game, the game that

1201
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:38,919
Speaker 1: if you don't actually watch what Anthony Davis is doing

1202
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,919
Speaker 1: on the floor when he's at the five versus when

1203
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:45,319
Speaker 1: he's at the four, you won't understand like what I'm

1204
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 1: what my complaints are right like my The thing that

1205
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:50,399
Speaker 1: I tried to tell people in the space was this,

1206
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 1: Charles Barkley can say whatever he wants, kenneed Perkins can

1207
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 1: say whatever he wants. They have their allegiances, they're doing

1208
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 1: their jobs. They get paid handsomely to give opinions, whether

1209
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 1: they're stupid or not like or or whether they're true

1210
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 1: or not um to give their opinions. But Anthony Davis

1211
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 1: as a player is who he is and he has

1212
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:14,399
Speaker 1: always been that same exact person his entire career. If

1213
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 1: you ask Pelican fans that watch the watch him on

1214
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 1: the Lakers right now, they will tell you the stuff

1215
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 1: that he does, the selective motor that he has, the

1216
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,319
Speaker 1: times where he kind of picks and chooses when he

1217
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 1: wants to kind of put his imprint on the game,

1218
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 1: Like that's something that he did in New Orleans and

1219
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 1: you won't hear that conversation between the Lakers fan and

1220
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 1: the Pelicans fan to some degree because you know, we've

1221
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 1: been at each other's throats after because yeah, exactly, social

1222
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 1: media does that. So anyway, this is not a referendum

1223
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:44,839
Speaker 1: on that. But the thing that I'm trying to bring

1224
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:48,240
Speaker 1: up is like people are complaining that Anthony Davis isn't

1225
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:51,839
Speaker 1: doing enough. That's one end of the spectrum. That's not true, right,

1226
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,319
Speaker 1: that's clearly false. And then you have another end of

1227
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:58,399
Speaker 1: the spectrum that's saying, well, Anthony Davis, he's not impactful

1228
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 1: when he gets it's not an impactfu. That's also another

1229
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 1: extreme that's not true either. Like these are two extremes

1230
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:10,840
Speaker 1: that the truth is always in the middle. Does a

1231
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:14,360
Speaker 1: d have a selective motor? Absolutely, he picks and chooses

1232
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 1: when he wants to be uh involved in the offense.

1233
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:21,240
Speaker 1: The thing is is that when we are watching as fans,

1234
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 1: when we're watching Anthony Davis be selective with his motor,

1235
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 1: even when he's playing at the five, even when he

1236
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 1: has a guy like Derek Jones Jr. Defending him uh

1237
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 1: in Chicago, or when he has you know, like Jaren

1238
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 1: Jackson Jr. I think he's Jaren Jackson, but Darren Jackson

1239
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 1: like from Memphis, and he's not punishing that matchup. Over

1240
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:47,359
Speaker 1: and over again. We're screaming at the TV, what the

1241
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:51,799
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis doing? But in reality, that's who he is.

1242
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 1: He has to be coached, regardless of the fact that

1243
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 1: he's a superstar. He has to be coached to be aggressive,

1244
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 1: he has to be forced into sets. And so when

1245
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 1: people go Alvin Gentry unlocked, Anthony Davis, no ship because

1246
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 1: Alvin Gentry was running the same exact principles that Mike

1247
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:12,759
Speaker 1: D'Antoni was running. Play fast, go early in the shot clock,

1248
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 1: Anthony comme and screen the ball handler, and go to

1249
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 1: the rim every single time. Don't worry about jump shots.

1250
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 1: Just go to the rim. And Drew Holiday or a

1251
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 1: Geon Rondo or who or you know each on More

1252
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 1: or whoever it is, he's gonna get you the ball.

1253
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 1: But just keep going to the rim. What about Frank

1254
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 1: Vogel makes and what you've seen what Frank you know

1255
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 1: the way Frank Vogel coaches. Again we said earlier, he's

1256
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 1: a diplomatic coach. What makes anybody think Frank Vogel is

1257
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 1: doing that? What makes anybody think that Frank Vogel is

1258
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 1: going to Lebron and Russ and Adi is saying, Yo,

1259
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 1: I need you to run ten straight pick and rolls

1260
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 1: to start this game. This team has no interior defense.

1261
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 1: Let's pulverize him inside. It just doesn't happen, right, like,

1262
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 1: And so that that's the point that I'm trying to, like, like,

1263
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 1: I've been trying to bring like with as it relates

1264
00:57:57,120 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 1: to Davis. His nature, right, his nature as a player,

1265
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 1: his human nature is what needs to be looked at

1266
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:07,439
Speaker 1: and it has to be worked around. And the reason

1267
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 1: why I think this is, like, I don't even think

1268
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 1: it's a contentious argument. I think it's just something that

1269
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 1: people are having a hard time understanding because he won

1270
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 1: a championship and he puts up this super awesome numbers

1271
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. But just look at the guy

1272
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 1: he's playing next to Russ. The first thing that we

1273
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 1: said when he got Russ, when Russ was trained to Lakers,

1274
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 1: Russ has to reign back his nature. He can't just

1275
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 1: play go go go, go, go high motor. I'm gonna

1276
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 1: attack the it doesn't matter who's with me. Every single time,

1277
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 1: that same level, that same expectation in a different way,

1278
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 1: that same microscope that we're using. We have to do

1279
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 1: that with Anthony Davis or else. What's gonna end up

1280
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 1: happening is that we're gonna sit here and say, oh, man,

1281
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 1: he's got like half of the crowd he's gonna say, oh,

1282
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 1: you know what he's got like he's leading the points

1283
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 1: in the pain. And then the other half is gonna

1284
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 1: be like, well, he's playing soft, and nobody will ever

1285
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 1: come to an agreement as so what's actually happening. And

1286
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 1: you know, like like I've said I tweeted about a

1287
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 1: little bit earlier, like when he plays a five, he's

1288
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 1: worried about hurting himself. Like if you guys watch him,

1289
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 1: watch Crusoe even last season or KCP. When you play defense,

1290
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 1: you get hurt. People elbow you in the face, you

1291
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 1: get need as you're going for rebounds. You can potentially

1292
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 1: turn your ankle if you're trying to block somebody and

1293
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 1: and they land and you know, like they land before you.

1294
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 1: These are all basketball things that happen, and it's not intentional.

1295
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 1: It just happens. And this dude doesn't want to get hurt.

1296
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 1: And look, Roger, I'll be very honest. I don't want

1297
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 1: him to get hurt either. So if he if he's

1298
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 1: gonna play the five, great, but I'm not gonna get

1299
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 1: mad at him if he's not blocking every freaking shot

1300
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 1: every time somebody, you know, the defense gets compromised because

1301
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 1: I don't need this dude getting hurt, like yesterday he

1302
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 1: got blocked or Memphis he got blocked. He's grabbing his hand.

1303
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 1: That's not the first time he's done that this season, right,

1304
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 1: and like and so and and and that's my thing,

1305
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 1: Like we have to understand that if you're expecting him

1306
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 1: to play a certain way and you want him to

1307
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 1: do this NonStop, then they're has to be a given take.

1308
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:03,480
Speaker 1: You can't be like, you know, Anthony Davis, like I

1309
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 1: need you to block every shot that comes into the paint,

1310
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 1: and then I also need you to go and drop

1311
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 1: her shoulder into the other guy every single play. He's

1312
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 1: not built like that. He's just not He's not Joel

1313
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 1: and Bead, He's not Nicola Yoki. Even those guys don't

1314
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 1: do that every single time. And Bead said that he

1315
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 1: likes to face up and shoot jumpers, So it's like

1316
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 1: Yoki shoots jumpers, but We're like, oh no, why don't

1317
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 1: you just go in there and just you know, you know,

1318
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 1: like like a mosh bit, like just going and bang

1319
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 1: heads with everybody. It's like, that's not reasonable to expect

1320
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 1: something like that, and he goes against his nature. And

1321
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:34,440
Speaker 1: and that's why I'm always hard Yeah, my long monologue,

1322
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 1: that's why I'm always hard on Uh, I'm always always

1323
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 1: hard on Vogol because I was like, dude, Vogo has

1324
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 1: to see this. He has to recognize when he's disengaged

1325
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 1: and work around it. Either get him involved through set

1326
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:47,920
Speaker 1: actions or or go away from him. Run something with

1327
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 1: Broad and Russ, run something with your shooters, do something else.

1328
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 1: And and I think that's gonna be something that he

1329
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 1: has to figure out or else. I do think his

1330
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 1: job would be in jeopardy. Uh, Frank Vogols if if

1331
01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 1: you can't figure that part out. Yeah, like you know,

1332
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:02,600
Speaker 1: that was that was great. There's a lot of good

1333
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 1: stuff in there. And I like I always thought I

1334
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 1: always said this with the A D at the five

1335
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 1: stuff because that's the point of contention with Laker fans

1336
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 1: all the time, right, It's like, yeah, just go play

1337
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:12,320
Speaker 1: the five eighty, Like like how could you not see

1338
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 1: that's your best position. You know, you you hear that

1339
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 1: a lot from people like how could you not see

1340
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 1: that's your best position? And my always thing is, first

1341
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 1: of all, when a player tells you something like I

1342
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 1: believe it. A D has been very clear about not

1343
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 1: wanting to play the center, and I think the guy

1344
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 1: that actually goes out there and plays thirty five minutes

1345
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 1: a night, like we should listen to what he says,

1346
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 1: you know, like that there's a reason why he doesn't

1347
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 1: want to do something. It's not just him being you know,

1348
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 1: we throw around the words soft way too easily to me,

1349
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 1: Like I like calling a D soft. To me, it's

1350
01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 1: just really dumb, low hanging fruit analysis. And that's basically

1351
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 1: what Charles Barkli was getting at, right, Like if you

1352
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 1: read between the lines, he was basically calling a D

1353
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 1: soft in a way, you know, like if you just

1354
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:49,480
Speaker 1: read between those lines, And I think that's always been

1355
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 1: the wrong way to look at it. A D doesn't

1356
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 1: want to be the center, and there's reasons for that.

1357
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:55,440
Speaker 1: And you saw that in the Memphis game, and you

1358
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 1: talked about how he tries not to he tries not

1359
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 1: to get hurt, and I think that's a very clear

1360
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 1: thing that's been going on. I think that that seems

1361
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:04,680
Speaker 1: like to be a reason as well. And when he's

1362
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 1: the five, he has to be the main engaged defensive guy,

1363
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:09,360
Speaker 1: he's the main rim protector. I think he likes to

1364
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:11,520
Speaker 1: having another big next to him. As much as we

1365
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:14,440
Speaker 1: hate the DeAndre Jordan's stuff. Was also clear that he

1366
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 1: was big in recruiting DeAndre Jordan, Right, that's no secret

1367
01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 1: like that he came out with that. There's no secret

1368
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 1: he recruited Andre Drummond right like someone that we've been

1369
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:24,919
Speaker 1: frustrated with. Dwight Howard obviously is the guy he likes

1370
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:26,680
Speaker 1: to play next too. And and you're right when we

1371
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 1: went to when we started Dwight in the second half

1372
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:31,920
Speaker 1: of that Memphis game, it felt like eighties energy. He

1373
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 1: picked up a little bit. That is That is specifically

1374
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 1: why I posted that clip. A couple nobody actually responded

1375
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:41,640
Speaker 1: to that tweet, saying that I was waiting to see

1376
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:44,800
Speaker 1: if anybody would say that, because that was the one

1377
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 1: thing I noticed when they started Dwight in the second half,

1378
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, eighties got some pep in his step, right,

1379
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 1: jumper looks really nice like he's like even the passes

1380
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 1: he was making the cutters like they look on time, Chris,

1381
01:02:57,720 --> 01:02:59,920
Speaker 1: his head is up. I was like, dude, this is

1382
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 1: completely different person. That's probably right now and and and

1383
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 1: that's my thing, Like I'll let you if it's not.

1384
01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 1: It's just like you have to find that balance. And

1385
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 1: Bogol has to figure that out because if you just

1386
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 1: blanketly do one thing and run that as a set

1387
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 1: rotation every single game, you are going to get mixed

1388
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:22,920
Speaker 1: results and you are going to get a disengaged Anthony

1389
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 1: Davis because he's going to go into self preservation mode

1390
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:27,880
Speaker 1: and he's gonna be like, dude, I'm not going to

1391
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:31,040
Speaker 1: risk my health because people already call me street clothes

1392
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:34,920
Speaker 1: and Charles Barkley's on NBA t you know, NBA on TNT,

1393
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 1: on national television basically calling me saft. So why would

1394
01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 1: I why would I just risk hurting myself and not

1395
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:45,920
Speaker 1: make myself available with the playoffs. And he's right, like

1396
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:47,640
Speaker 1: I can't get mad at him for something like that,

1397
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:50,000
Speaker 1: but go ahead, you know, like no, no, no, you're

1398
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 1: you're good and that's all kind of involved in it, right,

1399
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:56,040
Speaker 1: And I think you're you're lower on Vogel than I am,

1400
01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 1: like I've been clear that I don't think not that

1401
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 1: I'm stand again now that I'm standing Vogel. I just

1402
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:06,160
Speaker 1: think the solution isn't taking him out right, because I

1403
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 1: feel like the replacement for Vogel isn't here, Like it

1404
01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 1: just isn't. People have named, you know, Phil Handy as

1405
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:13,520
Speaker 1: someone they've liked. Phil Handy, you know, he's great. I

1406
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 1: love Phil Handy. I hope he's here forever. Zero head

1407
01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 1: coaching experience, right, or you know Fisdell, we've seen him

1408
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:20,720
Speaker 1: in other place. Like those are names to me that

1409
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:23,000
Speaker 1: just don't get me. Or even the darker names like

1410
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 1: Mark Jackson. I've heard people bring up like that, stuff

1411
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:29,440
Speaker 1: like that exactly. No, it's not that you want those guys.

1412
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 1: It's just like, look at the landfield. You look at

1413
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 1: the you know, field of coaches that are available and

1414
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:35,720
Speaker 1: all that. Do you expect that the Lakers left Frank Googol.

1415
01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 1: Will they go into some super deep, you know, unknown

1416
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:41,480
Speaker 1: higher like I don't see that happening like that. You know,

1417
01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:44,760
Speaker 1: they hire in house usually like vocals kind of the

1418
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:46,800
Speaker 1: rare exception to that, but they do kind of higher

1419
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:48,480
Speaker 1: And how that's not even the point of this. I

1420
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 1: think there are things that we don't do for a D.

1421
01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:52,640
Speaker 1: Like it's very clear, like we watched these games, the

1422
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:56,360
Speaker 1: starting lineups, they have very little belief in their actions

1423
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 1: that they want run right. It's very little belief that

1424
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 1: anything they're doing is opening anything up right. So their

1425
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:04,360
Speaker 1: first play of every game, every game is the first

1426
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 1: play without usually fail. It's a fifteen second cross screen

1427
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:10,360
Speaker 1: to get a D a post up on the other

1428
01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:13,080
Speaker 1: side or the other team usually switches it, so a

1429
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:16,040
Speaker 1: D really doesn't get any advantage against any player. It's

1430
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:19,800
Speaker 1: a post up for a D. Usually free the line extended.

1431
01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:21,760
Speaker 1: If we're lucky, it's a little closer to freak the

1432
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 1: line right like, but it's usually like it's free the

1433
01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:26,040
Speaker 1: line extended. It's a DY with the back to his baskets,

1434
01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:29,720
Speaker 1: three people in the paint already with one ready to

1435
01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:33,440
Speaker 1: double right, and usually the post entry passer. Sometimes it's Lebron,

1436
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 1: sometimes it's th Ht, sometimes it's Avery Bradley, you know,

1437
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:39,920
Speaker 1: like it's players that teams really don't care. So a

1438
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:42,240
Speaker 1: D catches the ball in the post. Three guys come

1439
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 1: at him, and people are like, why didn't he power

1440
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:49,080
Speaker 1: to the rim. It's like, what you know, he's not

1441
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:52,080
Speaker 1: getting calls either. Yeah, that's a that's yeah, that's a

1442
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 1: separate part of it. But yeah, and we run post

1443
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:55,680
Speaker 1: ups and are really our only counter out of post ups,

1444
01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:57,760
Speaker 1: right is the pin screen on the other side, But

1445
01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:00,360
Speaker 1: it's like Avery Bradley setting a pin screen for ht

1446
01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 1: who's open anyway, Like there's no, there's not even need

1447
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:04,400
Speaker 1: for that. So like that's the stuff I see you

1448
01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:06,400
Speaker 1: where we don't put him in positions as well, But

1449
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 1: some of the stuff I think it's okay to also

1450
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:11,800
Speaker 1: hold eighty accountable. Like to me, some of the stuff

1451
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:13,440
Speaker 1: he does where he like some of the screens he

1452
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:16,000
Speaker 1: sets are very lighthearted and again maybe that's part of

1453
01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 1: him not wanting to get hurt, But do you see

1454
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:19,360
Speaker 1: that as well, Like I see a lot of lighthearted

1455
01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:21,880
Speaker 1: screens where it's like a let me just get a

1456
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:24,920
Speaker 1: little bit of contact and then roll. Like where if him,

1457
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:27,560
Speaker 1: if he's setting that screen and he rolls, that's a problem,

1458
01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:29,320
Speaker 1: that's something you have to deal with. But eight is

1459
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 1: setting a half hardest screen and rolling for the big

1460
01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:33,480
Speaker 1: kind of guard him and guard Russ at the same time,

1461
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:35,840
Speaker 1: because Russ isn't a mid range score. Like those are

1462
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 1: things I'm seeing. And it's why I think both of

1463
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:41,280
Speaker 1: us promote spacing so much now because you need it.

1464
01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:43,160
Speaker 1: You have three guys in the pain eighties jumpers not

1465
01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:45,400
Speaker 1: in this has not entered this season, yet it's getting better.

1466
01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:48,200
Speaker 1: His midrange jumper, I think is better than people think

1467
01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:50,000
Speaker 1: it is. But you know, we have three guys in

1468
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:52,200
Speaker 1: the main And that's why I'm such a promoent from

1469
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:55,160
Speaker 1: Wayne Ellenton starting because I just think it opens up

1470
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:57,400
Speaker 1: everything for everyone else. Like if everybody is having a

1471
01:06:57,440 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 1: good game, that's fine, Like that's not inductive to the

1472
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:03,600
Speaker 1: process that we need, Like we need Russ having how

1473
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:08,600
Speaker 1: many times does Russ start a game? Well, season, people

1474
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:10,600
Speaker 1: have been saying like that that Boston game, like, oh,

1475
01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:13,000
Speaker 1: rustock over the third, Rust just help power thirds. But

1476
01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:17,120
Speaker 1: it's like the reason why Russ got off against Boston

1477
01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:18,680
Speaker 1: in the third quarter. And you know you had that

1478
01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:22,120
Speaker 1: three play sequence where it's a layoup layup dunk on

1479
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:26,080
Speaker 1: Josh Richardson or whatever. A d is connecting on the

1480
01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:29,439
Speaker 1: screen and then he's slipping quickly. So Robert Williams can't

1481
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:31,600
Speaker 1: just you know, Rob Willigue, he can he can't just

1482
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 1: like stand in between both of them, and Russ immediately

1483
01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:36,880
Speaker 1: attacks the rim and he sees that rob makes the

1484
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:39,160
Speaker 1: choice of of closing out on a D backing up

1485
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:41,200
Speaker 1: to him and ruscats layups. You know what I mean?

1486
01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:44,439
Speaker 1: But where is the commitment? Where is the execution? Where

1487
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 1: is the conviction in that plate that I'm going to

1488
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:50,040
Speaker 1: roll to the rim or or I'm gonna pop out

1489
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:52,480
Speaker 1: to the free throw line? That that is like, Uh,

1490
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:55,080
Speaker 1: you know, Russ had six turnovers that last game. Um,

1491
01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:57,200
Speaker 1: And so I went, I like every game I do this.

1492
01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:01,200
Speaker 1: Apparently Russ doesn't exercise to as well. Um. And you

1493
01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:02,720
Speaker 1: know I did that right up a long time ago

1494
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:06,440
Speaker 1: about Russ and how he looks turnovers, Like I watched

1495
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:09,480
Speaker 1: those turnovers from the Memphis game. Four of those turnovers

1496
01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:12,880
Speaker 1: are strictly out of pick and roll, like Russ trying

1497
01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:15,440
Speaker 1: like two of them are him. He makes a bounced

1498
01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:18,439
Speaker 1: pass the a D because a D like he doesn't

1499
01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:20,760
Speaker 1: know whether he wants a rim run or pop and

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01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:23,320
Speaker 1: Russ makes it pass thinking that e D is going

1501
01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:25,719
Speaker 1: to rim run. AD doesn't do anything. He just stands

1502
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:28,439
Speaker 1: in one spot and it really goes to nobody. And

1503
01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:31,559
Speaker 1: then there's another one where Russ gets all the way

1504
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:34,519
Speaker 1: to the paint eight is coming baseline off the rim

1505
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:36,840
Speaker 1: run and there's like that week side tagger or whatever.

1506
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 1: But ad he never seals him. He never gives Russ

1507
01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:41,559
Speaker 1: a good angle to to drop it to him, because

1508
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:43,479
Speaker 1: if he does, it's a dune. And so then we

1509
01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:46,000
Speaker 1: turn around and we go, dude, Russ, you're an idiot,

1510
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:48,679
Speaker 1: Like what are you doing? But it's just like it's

1511
01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:50,920
Speaker 1: a dance, right, Like you have to do it together.

1512
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:53,240
Speaker 1: It has the execution has to be great, and that

1513
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:56,960
Speaker 1: I think that is fair if if people look at

1514
01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:58,960
Speaker 1: a d like you know, like how you're described right now,

1515
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:02,040
Speaker 1: like is he doing it with conviction? Is he doing

1516
01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:05,280
Speaker 1: it with effort? Right? You could? I think it's very

1517
01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:08,320
Speaker 1: valid to criticize him about stuff like that. My I've

1518
01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:11,840
Speaker 1: actually been a proponent of Like, dude, if you don't

1519
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:13,439
Speaker 1: want to go to the rim because you're not getting

1520
01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:16,599
Speaker 1: calls and you know, like you just don't feel like

1521
01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:20,519
Speaker 1: colliding all day today, just demonstrably go to the free

1522
01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:23,160
Speaker 1: throw line and Russell give you the ball for a jumper, Like,

1523
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:26,280
Speaker 1: just just make a choice. Don't waffle around in between

1524
01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:28,479
Speaker 1: two areas because you're just making it more difficult for

1525
01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:32,559
Speaker 1: everybody else. And that's aside from the floor balance and

1526
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:34,639
Speaker 1: the lack of shooting and all that sort of stuff.

1527
01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:37,200
Speaker 1: Like he has to play with conviction, and I think

1528
01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:38,559
Speaker 1: that's kind of like what you're trying to get at,

1529
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:42,280
Speaker 1: like as it comes to like his his consistent effort. Yeah,

1530
01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:43,840
Speaker 1: conviction is a good way to put it. It's just

1531
01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:46,320
Speaker 1: but it's a passiveness that I don't like, you know

1532
01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:49,120
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like it's like a like against Memphis.

1533
01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:51,240
Speaker 1: And again, look, Steven Adams is you know, he's a

1534
01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:53,559
Speaker 1: good he's a good I guess he's a good defender.

1535
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:55,639
Speaker 1: But Stephen House was giving me a D like six

1536
01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:59,160
Speaker 1: ft of space, right, and usually you do that too, guys.

1537
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:01,640
Speaker 1: You don't fear that jumper. But usually you can't do

1538
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:03,479
Speaker 1: that to guys like a D because they can make

1539
01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:05,840
Speaker 1: up that space with enough momentum right where they get

1540
01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:07,840
Speaker 1: to the basket, they can your step gets fouled or whatever,

1541
01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:10,280
Speaker 1: and a D is just looking for the trible handoff,

1542
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:13,080
Speaker 1: like there is no there is zero level of aggression.

1543
01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:15,639
Speaker 1: Like I have Steven Adams on me. This guy should

1544
01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:17,599
Speaker 1: be in no way be able to guard me at all.

1545
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:18,880
Speaker 1: But it was It was none of that. It was

1546
01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:20,920
Speaker 1: like here, let me just run this, you know, fake

1547
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 1: play this trible handoff of the Rust that creates very

1548
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:25,760
Speaker 1: little advantage because teams aren't scared of Russ coming off

1549
01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:28,120
Speaker 1: a screen roll with me because they're just they'll trap

1550
01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:30,200
Speaker 1: us and have me open for a jumper. But it's

1551
01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:32,160
Speaker 1: that kind of like you said, conviction. I think that's

1552
01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:34,000
Speaker 1: the way right way to put it. And blaming all

1553
01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:36,760
Speaker 1: our problems on a D obviously is unfair. Like that's

1554
01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:39,080
Speaker 1: just not right. He is putting up crazy numbers, and

1555
01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:41,800
Speaker 1: I always hate the you know, the numbers aren't real

1556
01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:47,120
Speaker 1: crowd like numbers. Yeah, numbers are numbers, right, But I'm

1557
01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:49,360
Speaker 1: not gonna make fun of right, Like you know, Russ

1558
01:10:49,400 --> 01:10:52,920
Speaker 1: putting up ten and ten is Rust putting up ten

1559
01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:54,960
Speaker 1: and ten Like that's those you know what I mean?

1560
01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:57,679
Speaker 1: Like the numbers are what they are. It's just there's

1561
01:10:57,720 --> 01:11:00,160
Speaker 1: there's some lack of there's some passive that passive us

1562
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:02,600
Speaker 1: there that I think, you know, can be brought up.

1563
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:04,880
Speaker 1: But I think blaming everything on him isn't right. But

1564
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 1: I think there are stuff we can help hold our

1565
01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:09,920
Speaker 1: hold our superstar accountable for. Like I think that that's

1566
01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:12,040
Speaker 1: also fair. Is he putting Is he being put in

1567
01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:15,799
Speaker 1: the perfect situations? No, I'm obviously not that spacing obviously

1568
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:18,320
Speaker 1: is not conductive, but him, it's not conductive to russ either.

1569
01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:21,360
Speaker 1: It's not even conductive to Lebron. He's just drilling jumpers,

1570
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:25,960
Speaker 1: you know, like it's our imagin imaginive. Braun doesn't come

1571
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 1: out shooting jumpers the way he was against Boston, or

1572
01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:30,360
Speaker 1: or scoring the way that he did against Memphis, Like

1573
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 1: those first quarters, we would have been down double digits

1574
01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:35,680
Speaker 1: for sure, Like uh with with without his scoring and

1575
01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:37,479
Speaker 1: stuff like that. And I think that's the part, like

1576
01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:40,719
Speaker 1: folks don't realize that we're not that we're staying afloat,

1577
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:44,120
Speaker 1: but like Braun has been so good that we haven't

1578
01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:46,680
Speaker 1: realized how the other guys have not been good in

1579
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:49,360
Speaker 1: those first quarters. And that's a good side, you know,

1580
01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:51,759
Speaker 1: that's something that we can carry on as the season

1581
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:53,920
Speaker 1: goes on. That he looks so good and jumpers looks

1582
01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:55,800
Speaker 1: so good. But now we need all the other guys

1583
01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:58,360
Speaker 1: to kind of fall into place. And I'm hoping that

1584
01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:02,559
Speaker 1: that that starts happening, um, you know, with him back, Yeah,

1585
01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:04,360
Speaker 1: for sure. And to me, like the ceiling of this

1586
01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 1: team was Lebron and A D kind of being themselves

1587
01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:10,280
Speaker 1: and Russ picking his spots and that, to me, that's

1588
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:12,479
Speaker 1: not really how the season has played out. So like

1589
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:14,639
Speaker 1: we've been carried by Russ for a lot of this season.

1590
01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:17,080
Speaker 1: Like that's why it's hard for me to kind of criticize,

1591
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:19,240
Speaker 1: you know, the turnovers and all that. But yeah, the

1592
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:21,880
Speaker 1: A D discussion is fascinating because the numbers are what

1593
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:24,519
Speaker 1: they are. You know, it's tough to argue with those,

1594
01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:26,439
Speaker 1: but we watch all these games and we understand there's

1595
01:12:26,439 --> 01:12:28,479
Speaker 1: places where he picks his spots and he's always going

1596
01:12:28,479 --> 01:12:31,120
Speaker 1: to do that. But it's just a tough kind of

1597
01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:33,600
Speaker 1: conundrum there because you don't want him for right he

1598
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:35,519
Speaker 1: has some knee soreness, and I think there were some

1599
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:38,520
Speaker 1: quotes today like he's they want to make sure that's

1600
01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:41,840
Speaker 1: before moving forward, and that's definitely the right decision, but

1601
01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:44,120
Speaker 1: it just sucks that you know he's getting hurt. Now

1602
01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:46,720
Speaker 1: there should be a time the team kind of revs up,

1603
01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:49,320
Speaker 1: But we're over an hour here, so bad. I kind

1604
01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:50,960
Speaker 1: of taken more of your time than I promised. But

1605
01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:55,360
Speaker 1: any final thoughts here, either this game or a big

1606
01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:58,519
Speaker 1: picture or anything. Yeah. So, because I know you don't

1607
01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:01,479
Speaker 1: want to do this, I'm gonna say this. I don't

1608
01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:04,280
Speaker 1: think Uh, I'm not gonna say that this is a

1609
01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:09,800
Speaker 1: hopefully a turning point, because that's crazy. I'm not gonna

1610
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:12,160
Speaker 1: say this is a turning point. But um, I think

1611
01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:13,880
Speaker 1: the one thing that we can kind of take away,

1612
01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:16,639
Speaker 1: um from from this game, granted it was okay see,

1613
01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:19,280
Speaker 1: uh so I'm not gonna take it too crazy. There

1614
01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:22,320
Speaker 1: is a version of this team that executes well, like

1615
01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:24,719
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be expact Gaby Radley to be uh

1616
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:26,439
Speaker 1: a t t to be great shooters and stuff. I

1617
01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:28,519
Speaker 1: got all of the fun. But that you can tell that,

1618
01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:31,880
Speaker 1: you know, with Reeves, with Ellington, with monk Um, with

1619
01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:35,519
Speaker 1: spacing stuff like that, there's an there's a well oiled

1620
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:40,040
Speaker 1: executing machine that that's that's somewhere in this team. And

1621
01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:42,679
Speaker 1: and the other thing is, um Braun has looked great.

1622
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:47,559
Speaker 1: Nothing else like Braun has looked really good. Um Boston,

1623
01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:50,599
Speaker 1: Memphis and now okay see and uh it is great

1624
01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:53,320
Speaker 1: to see that even at his year nineteen, at his age,

1625
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:57,720
Speaker 1: he can basically have his fingerprints, um on the personality

1626
01:13:57,720 --> 01:14:00,080
Speaker 1: of every single person on this roster, just by the

1627
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 1: way he starts the game off and conducts himself on

1628
01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:05,400
Speaker 1: the court. So that's great to see that he still

1629
01:14:05,439 --> 01:14:07,519
Speaker 1: has that kind of impact and that everybody kind of

1630
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:10,960
Speaker 1: falls in and um, you know, just I'm hoping we

1631
01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:13,040
Speaker 1: can string together some wins and stuff. I got looking

1632
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:16,000
Speaker 1: forward to it. Um. And you know, as I always,

1633
01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:19,240
Speaker 1: I appreciate subbing in for you guys whenever you guys

1634
01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:23,400
Speaker 1: need to. I hope everybody enjoyed. And just remember the

1635
01:14:23,439 --> 01:14:26,679
Speaker 1: basketball guys are always watching so so so we gotta

1636
01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:29,320
Speaker 1: we gotta be nice to our own players, uh, so

1637
01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:31,280
Speaker 1: that we can collect this good karma on our way

1638
01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:34,439
Speaker 1: to the championship. Yeah, hopefully the basketball guy is shining

1639
01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:37,479
Speaker 1: some positive light. You know that's going forward. Uh N.

1640
01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:40,519
Speaker 1: I appreciate you, appreciate everyone who came and listen on

1641
01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:42,720
Speaker 1: a Friday night the Lakers finally got a good win.

1642
01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:45,960
Speaker 1: I'm not going to use that tea where that Venete used, um,

1643
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:48,960
Speaker 1: but yeah, thank you everyone again for listening. This will

1644
01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:51,200
Speaker 1: this will be up on the podcast feed uh in

1645
01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:53,760
Speaker 1: about an hour or so, I'll get this up. This

1646
01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:55,599
Speaker 1: one won't be on dash Radio because we'll have another

1647
01:14:55,640 --> 01:14:58,639
Speaker 1: show on Sunday. But again thanks everyone, Thank you again

1648
01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:01,840
Speaker 1: Rene for subbing in, and everyone have a great night

1649
01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:11,080
Speaker 1: and I'm happy Holidays. H