WEBVTT - We Read Newt Gingrich's World War 2 Alternate History 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:02.880 Also media. 0:00:07.760 --> 0:00:12.080 It's the podcast that it is on election day, but 0:00:12.160 --> 0:00:15.160 you won't hear this on election day. You know how 0:00:15.200 --> 0:00:20.960 the election has gone? You listening have information in December? Yeah, yeah, 0:00:21.040 --> 0:00:24.480 probably in December, which hopefully means the election is over 0:00:24.640 --> 0:00:30.800 by then. But god willing, Yeah, god willing, the election 0:00:30.960 --> 0:00:35.080 is almost certainly over, which means, you know, find a 0:00:35.080 --> 0:00:38.159 way to communicate to the past and let us know 0:00:38.240 --> 0:00:42.239 so that we can gamble on it. That's That's what 0:00:42.240 --> 0:00:46.080 I'd like you to do. Anyway, speaking of gambling, you 0:00:46.159 --> 0:00:48.959 know who knows all of the words to the classic 0:00:49.320 --> 0:00:53.440 song The Gambler. Our guest today, Molly Conger. Molly, do 0:00:53.479 --> 0:00:56.279 you know when to hold him? Oh? 0:00:56.320 --> 0:00:58.480 I know when to fold him. That's as much of 0:00:58.560 --> 0:00:59.360 that song as I know. 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:01.320 D well done. 0:01:01.440 --> 0:01:04.280 Oh my god, I think I only know that from 0:01:04.319 --> 0:01:06.720 Info Wars. 0:01:06.880 --> 0:01:10.160 I do love watching Alex Jones sing that and the Highwayman, 0:01:10.280 --> 0:01:11.360 Poncho and Lefty. 0:01:12.120 --> 0:01:14.400 You know, you're just grooving. It's things are going well 0:01:14.440 --> 0:01:16.080 for als when he's doing that. 0:01:16.080 --> 0:01:18.600 That's the most jealous I ever am of him. Because 0:01:18.640 --> 0:01:21.760 we're not allowed to use we have no licensing agreement 0:01:21.800 --> 0:01:27.240 with any company that owns songs. Yeah, he must, otherwise 0:01:27.280 --> 0:01:28.920 he wouldn't be allowed to air them like that. I 0:01:28.920 --> 0:01:31.840 think there because there are like there are like like 0:01:32.680 --> 0:01:36.000 ways that you as a broadcaster can just like make 0:01:36.040 --> 0:01:39.119 a deal for access to you know, they have X 0:01:39.280 --> 0:01:42.000 number of songs and we can use them for whatever. 0:01:42.400 --> 0:01:44.360 I think that exists. I think that's got to be 0:01:44.440 --> 0:01:45.800 what you were somewhat correct. 0:01:45.840 --> 0:01:48.160 But that doesn't mean that Alex Jones has a deal 0:01:48.200 --> 0:01:51.360 with them. He could totally be grifting, because yeah, that's 0:01:51.360 --> 0:01:51.840 what you do. 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:54.720 I think he'd have been sued before then about this. 0:01:55.880 --> 0:02:00.840 Maybe they're so chiper today, Robert Yep, I'm I'm chipper. 0:02:01.400 --> 0:02:02.080 I'm doing good. 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:04.040 How many did you get, Bud? 0:02:04.760 --> 0:02:07.240 I had like six last night. I tried to get 0:02:07.280 --> 0:02:09.680 to bed early, but I really couldn't get to sleep 0:02:09.680 --> 0:02:14.400 before like three thirty in the morning. I don't know. Uh, well, 0:02:14.400 --> 0:02:17.880 it's behind the bastards and we're all trying not to 0:02:18.320 --> 0:02:22.240 obsess over the election, and I thought, you know, we 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:25.880 all might be hoping that history goes a different way 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:29.200 depending on what happens today, So why not read a 0:02:29.280 --> 0:02:33.160 work of alternate history? Uh? You know, we love doing 0:02:33.200 --> 0:02:37.400 book episodes over here because it's lets me rest a 0:02:37.480 --> 0:02:40.400 little bit. The trouble is finding a book. You can't 0:02:40.440 --> 0:02:43.200 just use any book, and it's sometimes hard to figure 0:02:43.240 --> 0:02:46.680 it out. And thank god I got very lucky. Margaret 0:02:46.800 --> 0:02:50.960 Killjoy was over at my house recently, not bragging, although 0:02:51.000 --> 0:02:52.240 I am kind of bragging. 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:53.960 You know some celebrities. 0:02:54.080 --> 0:02:56.880 I know some celebrities. I know a famous kill Joy 0:02:57.440 --> 0:03:00.440 who's also a famous Margaret, And she brought me a 0:03:00.480 --> 0:03:03.440 book that a fan had given her at an event, 0:03:03.560 --> 0:03:07.200 because our fans are unhinged and have just decided sometimes 0:03:07.280 --> 0:03:10.639 we should hand one member of the team an absolutely 0:03:10.720 --> 0:03:13.480 terrible piece of literature to give to another member of 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:18.680 the team. And the book that I have received is 0:03:18.840 --> 0:03:23.480 nineteen forty five by Newt Gingridge. 0:03:23.840 --> 0:03:26.840 Mollie, Wow, what if things had been different? 0:03:27.200 --> 0:03:31.040 What if things had been different? Do you know much 0:03:31.080 --> 0:03:33.520 about old Newt in this book? 0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:38.200 So I did not realize and this is this is 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:39.920 on me entirely. You know, I know a little bit 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:45.080 about you know, old Moon based Newt. But question was 0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:47.320 he had written like thirty works of fiction. 0:03:47.800 --> 0:03:49.720 He has written a lot of things. 0:03:49.760 --> 0:03:51.080 Where does he find the time? 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:54.440 I mean, he doesn't spend a lot of his political career, 0:03:54.520 --> 0:03:56.120 does not take up a lot of time. 0:03:56.800 --> 0:03:58.320 Okay. You know usually when you see like, oh, you know, 0:03:58.360 --> 0:04:00.880 this politician has written a book, men want memoir or whatever, 0:04:00.920 --> 0:04:03.440 and it's like, okay, well, like a campaign staffer wrote that. 0:04:03.440 --> 0:04:07.440 That's for pr No, this is his passion. Yeah, he's 0:04:07.440 --> 0:04:13.080 writing these Yeah, this is what he really wanted to do. 0:04:13.240 --> 0:04:17.520 And my god, it's a I wish we had some 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:19.839 sort of program in place where when we find some 0:04:19.960 --> 0:04:23.160 guy who has like an artistic dream but also weird 0:04:23.240 --> 0:04:26.640 right wing politics, we just kind of like swallow our 0:04:26.720 --> 0:04:30.919 pride and fund, like, have a have a government agency 0:04:30.960 --> 0:04:33.120 buy up copies of their books so they feel like 0:04:33.200 --> 0:04:36.840 a success. Anything to keep them from running for office. Right, 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:37.400 Hitler pain? 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:40.520 Yeah, what if let Hitler paint. Let Ben Shapiro make 0:04:40.560 --> 0:04:44.720 his dog shit TV show about fucking law students. 0:04:44.600 --> 0:04:47.760 And just sort of like a Truman Show type experience 0:04:48.279 --> 0:04:49.680 encapsulate them safely. 0:04:50.040 --> 0:04:53.360 We have to Truman show these people, right, run a fake. 0:04:53.480 --> 0:04:56.440 You know that White House Correspondence dinner that supposedly got 0:04:56.440 --> 0:04:59.320 Trump committed him to run for office. Hold a fake 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:01.760 one of those where everybody just talks about how nice 0:05:01.760 --> 0:05:05.719 he is and how much they admire him, you know, like, yeah, 0:05:05.920 --> 0:05:08.080 we really have to put these people in bubbles. It's 0:05:08.120 --> 0:05:13.520 the kindest thing for all of us. Oh man, So yeah, 0:05:13.560 --> 0:05:16.120 we're going to be reading nineteen forty five. As you 0:05:16.200 --> 0:05:21.000 might guess, it is a World War two alternate history. Yeah, 0:05:21.120 --> 0:05:24.200 of course, Sophie, what else could it be? What else 0:05:24.279 --> 0:05:27.919 could it be? And this it's a particularly. 0:05:27.440 --> 0:05:29.320 That but I did not process it. I was like, 0:05:29.400 --> 0:05:30.800 I was like, that's not what it is. 0:05:30.880 --> 0:05:33.960 Oh yeah, of course of course, and it's a wild one. 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:36.760 I'm going to tell you that, right right, So our 0:05:36.800 --> 0:05:39.000 author for today, I'm going to go through a little 0:05:39.000 --> 0:05:44.000 bit of a scripted portion. Here is Newton, Leroy Gingrich, 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:49.640 le Roy, Yes, king Rich. Yeah, you can't not do 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:51.839 the Leroy Jenkins thing, which is just going to be 0:05:51.839 --> 0:05:55.560 incomprehensible for anyone in our audience that's like younger than 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:59.200 their mid thirties. You don't know who Leroy Jenkins was? 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:06.000 Remember the old Times pieces as shit? Sorry anyway, there's 0:06:06.000 --> 0:06:07.840 a post in the subreddit now saying that I'm an 0:06:07.839 --> 0:06:10.480 old man and all my references are old man references, 0:06:10.520 --> 0:06:12.360 and the thing that makes me angriest is they're like, 0:06:12.680 --> 0:06:15.640 he never references the Simpsons, for many episodes later than 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:18.120 the year two thousand and I'm sorry I never referenced 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:21.839 the Simpsons episode from later than nineteen ninety eight, because 0:06:21.839 --> 0:06:23.440 that's when they stopped being good. 0:06:23.640 --> 0:06:25.080 You're not an old man. 0:06:26.000 --> 0:06:28.400 Thank you, Sophie. But you called me an old man 0:06:28.480 --> 0:06:29.239 on the show. 0:06:29.360 --> 0:06:32.080 Yeah, that's that's because I'm allowed to It's okay when 0:06:32.120 --> 0:06:32.640 I do it. 0:06:33.080 --> 0:06:34.360 They're not allowed to do that. 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:38.359 You are used to them. To me, you are anxious. 0:06:38.440 --> 0:06:42.280 I'm not. They haven't even seen Alien four. These scrubs, 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:46.400 these babies. None of them know what Sequest DSV was. Molly, 0:06:46.480 --> 0:06:48.120 did you watch sequest. 0:06:48.000 --> 0:06:49.320 I don't know what you're talking about. 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:53.760 Oh my god, Oh my god. Go get a learner's permit. 0:06:54.000 --> 0:06:56.080 Anyway, I think we're the same age. 0:06:56.520 --> 0:07:10.080 We might be, but mentally. Newton Leroy Gingrich was born 0:07:10.160 --> 0:07:13.440 two years before the title of his novel, on June seventeenth, 0:07:13.560 --> 0:07:18.280 nineteen forty three. Knut's father was a career soldier, but 0:07:18.400 --> 0:07:21.600 Newt takes a different path. He's actually an art student. 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:25.520 He gets like an ma in the mid sixties, and 0:07:25.800 --> 0:07:29.040 like any guy who could. During the Vietnam War, he 0:07:29.120 --> 0:07:31.960 gets a deferment from being drafted by arguing that he 0:07:32.080 --> 0:07:34.880 was a student and a young father. Remember that, because 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:36.720 there's going to be a funny code of that a 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:38.280 little bit later in this story. 0:07:38.560 --> 0:07:40.000 Well, we all know Nuts a family man. 0:07:40.160 --> 0:07:42.280 We all know Nuts of family man. We all know 0:07:42.360 --> 0:07:45.720 nuts big not fighting in wars, but not a big 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:49.840 not having wars. Guy Newton is elected to Congress in 0:07:49.920 --> 0:07:54.080 nineteen seventy nine. In an address to college Republicans before 0:07:54.080 --> 0:07:56.560 his election, he said, I think one of the great 0:07:56.560 --> 0:07:58.840 problems we have in the Republican Party is that we 0:07:58.920 --> 0:08:02.000 don't encourage you to be nasty. We encourage you to 0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:04.600 be neat, obedient, and loyal and faithful. In all those 0:08:04.640 --> 0:08:07.880 boy scout words, Richard Nixon, Gerald Ford, they've done a 0:08:07.960 --> 0:08:11.000 terrible job, a pathetic job in my lifetime. In my 0:08:11.080 --> 0:08:13.240 lifetime I was born in nineteen forty three, we have 0:08:13.280 --> 0:08:17.640 not had a competent national Republican leader, not ever. And 0:08:18.000 --> 0:08:20.840 it's very clear from that context that a competent leader 0:08:20.960 --> 0:08:23.720 is a mean one, right, Like that's what he's missing, 0:08:24.040 --> 0:08:26.520 Like Richard Nixon's just too nice. 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:28.640 And politics really needs is more vitriol. 0:08:28.960 --> 0:08:32.640 Yeah, needs more real assholes. I think that's interesting because 0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:35.600 it makes a case that I think is an important 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:37.880 thing to understand if you're trying to like puzzle out 0:08:37.920 --> 0:08:40.680 why we are where we are now in American politics, 0:08:41.080 --> 0:08:44.080 And the basics of that case is well, because Republicans 0:08:44.080 --> 0:08:46.720 lost their minds when Nixon had to step down, and 0:08:46.760 --> 0:08:50.920 everything they've done since then has been dedicated to stopping 0:08:51.160 --> 0:08:54.120 making sure that no other Republican would ever have to 0:08:54.240 --> 0:08:59.200 leave office, no matter what crimes they committed. Right, And yeah, 0:08:59.240 --> 0:09:03.200 no modern press for that. So in nineteen eighty five, 0:09:03.679 --> 0:09:06.800 as a congressman, Newton told an interviewer I think from 0:09:06.840 --> 0:09:10.600 the Washington Post who asked about his deferment during Vietnam, quote, 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:13.319 given everything, I believe, a large part of me thinks 0:09:13.360 --> 0:09:17.200 I should have gone over. Oh if only Newton, I 0:09:17.280 --> 0:09:22.320 do wish you had gone to fight in Vietnam. Now. 0:09:22.360 --> 0:09:25.200 That same year, when President Reagan held a summit with 0:09:25.280 --> 0:09:29.480 Soviet pre Premier Gorbachev, Newton called it quote the most 0:09:29.559 --> 0:09:32.440 dangerous summit for the West since Adolf Hitler met with 0:09:32.559 --> 0:09:35.920 Chamberlain in nineteen thirty eight at Munich. And I love 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:39.360 the idea like Gorbachev is a Hitler figure, This guy 0:09:39.440 --> 0:09:44.199 who wouldn't even shoot back during the protests that overthrew 0:09:44.240 --> 0:09:49.599 his government is like a Hitler, you know, the future 0:09:49.720 --> 0:09:54.920 Pizza Hut spokes their Gorbachev as a Hitler kind of figure. 0:09:56.320 --> 0:09:58.400 Areddie Hitler, you would have loved Pizza Hut. 0:09:58.800 --> 0:10:02.080 That does tell you where our boy Newt is. Unlike 0:10:02.120 --> 0:10:05.880 the political alignment chart, right, he sees Ronald Reagan as 0:10:05.920 --> 0:10:10.520 a fucking Neville Chamberlain type. Now, that same year, Gingridge 0:10:10.600 --> 0:10:12.920 made the news for comparing a house race that was 0:10:12.920 --> 0:10:16.400 in question in Indiana to the Holocaust. Here's a quote 0:10:16.400 --> 0:10:19.559 about it. Hey, I'm going to read you the quote, Molly. 0:10:19.640 --> 0:10:21.880 Here's a quote about it, as relayed by an article 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:24.480 in Mother Jones, and it starts with Newt. 0:10:24.559 --> 0:10:24.719 Here. 0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:27.840 We've talked a lot in recent weeks about the Holocaust, 0:10:27.960 --> 0:10:31.080 about the incredible period in which Nazi Germany killed millions 0:10:31.080 --> 0:10:33.680 of people and in particular, came close to wiping out 0:10:33.720 --> 0:10:37.480 European jewry. If someone said to me two days ago, 0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:41.120 talking frankly about the McIntyre affair in which Democrats refused 0:10:41.120 --> 0:10:43.240 to seat the winner of a house race until they 0:10:43.360 --> 0:10:46.400 conducted a recount, and the efforts by the Democratic leadership 0:10:46.440 --> 0:10:49.240 to not allow the people of Indiana to have their representative, 0:10:49.320 --> 0:10:52.680 but instead to impose upon them someone else, something in 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:55.720 which he quotes, something in which he quotes German poet 0:10:55.760 --> 0:10:59.320 Martin Eemuhler. I have never quite until tonight, been able 0:10:59.320 --> 0:11:02.440 to link it together. Or Niemuler, the great German theologists 0:11:02.440 --> 0:11:04.840 said at one point when the German, when the Nazis 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:06.719 came for the Jews, I did nothing, And when the 0:11:06.800 --> 0:11:09.600 Nazis came for me, there was no one left, right, 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:11.640 I think, sorry, I think it's Ni Muler, But this like, 0:11:12.280 --> 0:11:15.400 so basically the Democrats are like, well, until we finish 0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:17.480 a recount, we're not going to sit this guy because 0:11:17.480 --> 0:11:20.800 there's questions about the election and fucking nude is like, 0:11:20.880 --> 0:11:22.880 this is the same as the holocausts? 0:11:23.040 --> 0:11:26.079 So at what point did millions of people die? Did 0:11:26.080 --> 0:11:27.200 they kill all the voters? 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:30.000 Did they murder everybody? It just kind of seems like 0:11:30.040 --> 0:11:32.240 they were doing a thing that legally is a part 0:11:32.240 --> 0:11:35.760 of the election, like having a recount, waiting to seat 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:38.679 the elected leader until you do their recount. Is that 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:42.160 the same as killing millions of people in factories of death? 0:11:42.520 --> 0:11:45.160 There needs to be a swear jar for people who 0:11:45.160 --> 0:11:48.160 abuse the knee Mueller poem. Yeah, yeah, you need to 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:50.239 put a dollar in the jar, because that was not appropriate. 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:53.000 I think anytime you reference it you have to lose, 0:11:53.040 --> 0:11:54.839 Like it should be like a Yukuza thing where you 0:11:54.920 --> 0:11:57.600 have to give up one of the joints of a finger, right, 0:11:57.640 --> 0:11:59.559 And maybe that'll cause people to be like a lot 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:02.160 more care about when they deploy that bad boy. 0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:06.280 I heard it in closing arguments at a trial last month, 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:09.080 a trial for a man who is a white nationalist, 0:12:10.040 --> 0:12:12.240 and his lawyer's argument was, you know what with this, 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:14.280 this is free speech. You're trying him for his free speech, 0:12:14.320 --> 0:12:16.400 and it is closing arguments. He's, you know, he refers 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:18.840 to the nimo or poem, except you know, the poem 0:12:18.920 --> 0:12:21.240 starts first they came for the Communists, and I said 0:12:21.240 --> 0:12:22.920 nothing because I was not a Communist. And then they 0:12:22.920 --> 0:12:24.600 came for the Jews, and I said nothing because I 0:12:24.640 --> 0:12:27.560 was not a Jew. And he says, he's going to 0:12:27.640 --> 0:12:30.240 quote the poem, but he says, first they came for 0:12:30.320 --> 0:12:33.680 one group, yeah, and then they came for another group, 0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:34.720 and it's like, what are the groups? 0:12:35.040 --> 0:12:41.240 A group is a Nazi? Yeah, first thing came for 0:12:41.280 --> 0:12:43.720 the Nazis, and I did not speak out because I 0:12:43.840 --> 0:12:51.600 was not a Nazi man. It's abuse. It's very funny, Okay, 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:55.280 so let's get back into it. Newts served as the 0:12:55.360 --> 0:12:58.040 Republican Speaker of the House from nineteen ninety five to 0:12:58.120 --> 0:13:01.280 ninety nine. Gigrich was the arc at of the Republican 0:13:01.440 --> 0:13:05.160 victory in the nineteen ninety four congressional election, which legitimately 0:13:05.200 --> 0:13:07.600 set the stage for nearly everything the right has been 0:13:07.640 --> 0:13:11.000 able to accomplish since. Without the Contract with America and 0:13:11.120 --> 0:13:14.520 his retaking of the House, it's possible we see it's 0:13:14.559 --> 0:13:17.840 possible that we see no George W. Bush presidency, no 0:13:18.040 --> 0:13:20.800 right wing Supreme Court today, and at least a lot 0:13:20.880 --> 0:13:22.679 less of a right wing drift on behalf of the 0:13:22.720 --> 0:13:25.720 Democrats who stumbled to fight him. Right, this is a 0:13:25.840 --> 0:13:28.520 major move in US politics. I don't think a lot 0:13:28.600 --> 0:13:31.720 of folks who you know, whose awareness of politics has 0:13:31.760 --> 0:13:34.640 sort of started since the Trump years, know much about this. 0:13:34.800 --> 0:13:39.079 But you had, you know, slick Willie stop George H. W. 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:42.319 Bush from getting a second term. It drove these people crazy. 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:45.640 You have briefly the Democrats in control of government, and 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:49.280 then in ninety four Newt leads I think they pick 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:53.120 up fifty four House seats. It's this massive sweeping victory 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:55.880 that comes with this thing called the Contract with America, 0:13:55.960 --> 0:14:00.160 which is basically Newt introducing what becomes kind of the 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:05.640 neocon platform. Right, And this is like a really I mean, 0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:08.040 it's it's one of the most important moments in modern 0:14:08.160 --> 0:14:12.880 electoral history. Right. Newt is one of the first conservatives 0:14:12.880 --> 0:14:15.840 to see a real promise in creating a right wing 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:20.200 system of education to push conservative values. In nineteen ninety three, 0:14:20.240 --> 0:14:23.640 he crafted a college course taught at Reinart College called 0:14:23.720 --> 0:14:26.880 Renewing American Civilization. We're looking at this as like sort 0:14:26.880 --> 0:14:32.040 of a proto what's that fucking guy who does the 0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:35.320 Little Kids TV? Bullshit? 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:36.920 Oh? 0:14:36.960 --> 0:14:39.760 Like the university Prager University. Yeah right, this is a 0:14:39.760 --> 0:14:42.360 precursor to Prager University. Right, I mean he was on 0:14:42.400 --> 0:14:43.280 the Hillsdale track. 0:14:43.360 --> 0:14:43.680 Yeah. 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:46.840 Yeah, yeah, And it's eventually televised in a cable channel 0:14:46.880 --> 0:14:48.840 called Mind Extension University. 0:14:49.040 --> 0:14:49.560 I don't like that. 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:53.160 Yeah, you got to extend your mind now. Obviously, he 0:14:53.320 --> 0:14:56.280 was a ferocious opponent of gay rights and the degradation 0:14:56.320 --> 0:14:59.440 of American values in the modern era. He talked a 0:14:59.440 --> 0:15:03.960 lot about how you know people today, especially because of 0:15:04.080 --> 0:15:08.440 you know, democrats gaining such cultural dominance are just you know, 0:15:08.760 --> 0:15:12.280 awful compared to you know, the the glorious greatest generation 0:15:12.400 --> 0:15:15.560 who really understood morality. He also cheated on his second 0:15:15.560 --> 0:15:18.240 wife with a staffer who became his third wife, while 0:15:18.240 --> 0:15:22.560 he was advocating for the impeachment of Bill Clinton over infidelity. Now, 0:15:22.840 --> 0:15:25.520 this should not have been surprising to anyone who knew that. 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:28.600 In nineteen eighty nine, in an interview with The Washington Post, 0:15:29.200 --> 0:15:31.880 he explained that he fought with his second wife not 0:15:32.080 --> 0:15:34.800 because it mattered to him what they were fighting about, 0:15:34.960 --> 0:15:37.880 but because he had a habit of dominance that had 0:15:37.920 --> 0:15:40.960 been stoked by his time in politics. He estimated to 0:15:41.040 --> 0:15:43.280 the Post that his marriage had a fifty three to 0:15:43.320 --> 0:15:45.360 forty seven percent chance of making it. 0:15:48.320 --> 0:15:49.200 Oh Man. 0:15:51.160 --> 0:15:56.280 Family values fifty three forty seven. I mean that's I 0:15:56.320 --> 0:15:57.440 wouldn't met on those odds. 0:15:57.480 --> 0:16:02.360 Fascinating, fascinating odds to give your own maya. Now, Newt 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:05.520 has a long and fascinating history, and I do recommend 0:16:05.600 --> 0:16:08.280 reading that. There's a twenty twelve Mother Jones article with 0:16:08.320 --> 0:16:10.240 some of his best quotes that will link in the 0:16:10.280 --> 0:16:13.280 show notes if you want a better understanding of the man. Though, 0:16:13.960 --> 0:16:16.120 you know that's a good way of getting it. But 0:16:16.200 --> 0:16:19.040 for our purposes today, we're going to be focusing on 0:16:19.240 --> 0:16:23.280 the novel nineteen forty five, which he co authored. It 0:16:23.400 --> 0:16:26.960 is set in an alternate world where the US defeated Japan, 0:16:27.440 --> 0:16:29.840 but Hitler never declared war on the US and so 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:33.080 we never got involved in a war with Germany. The 0:16:33.200 --> 0:16:35.880 Nazis won their war with the Soviets. They took most 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:39.000 of their European holdings and forced them to accept a piece. 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:42.240 They then boxed the Brits into a corner. A few 0:16:42.320 --> 0:16:45.440 years later, they carried out a surprise attack on the 0:16:45.520 --> 0:16:48.400 United States in order to kill our nuclear scientists and 0:16:48.440 --> 0:16:51.000 stop the completion of what in our universe we know 0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:54.880 is the Manhattan Project. Now, because of where this takes place, 0:16:55.600 --> 0:16:58.080 i'll spoil it for you, Molly. This book centers around 0:16:58.080 --> 0:17:02.080 the Waffen SS invading East Tennessee. That's what this book 0:17:02.120 --> 0:17:02.560 is about. 0:17:02.720 --> 0:17:04.440 How they get all the way to Tennessee. 0:17:04.960 --> 0:17:08.600 They've got their wonder weapons, They've got these newt Is. Again, 0:17:08.680 --> 0:17:11.919 he's like a History Channel history buff, right, So a 0:17:12.000 --> 0:17:15.800 huge part of this book is like the Nazis building 0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:19.000 all of these wonder weapons that were mostly theoretical during 0:17:19.040 --> 0:17:22.960 the actual war, including this like massive you know, bombing 0:17:23.080 --> 0:17:27.119 type plane that they had kind of been talking about 0:17:27.160 --> 0:17:29.520 making that probably never would have worked out. Like it's 0:17:29.520 --> 0:17:32.560 all sorts of like nonsense sci fi weapons, right, And. 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:35.119 What didn't they want with Tennessee specifically. 0:17:34.760 --> 0:17:36.520 It's where the nuclear program was headed. 0:17:36.760 --> 0:17:37.640 That's true. 0:17:37.840 --> 0:17:40.320 Well, actually I think it was initially before they moved 0:17:40.320 --> 0:17:43.000 to Los Alamos. I think they had it was somewhere 0:17:43.040 --> 0:17:46.760 in like the southeast before they moved to Los Alamos 0:17:46.800 --> 0:17:49.320 that they had like the early stages of the nuclear program. 0:17:49.840 --> 0:17:52.000 And I think he's just kind of positing a much 0:17:52.080 --> 0:17:55.480 more primitive nuclear program. But I'm going to pull up 0:17:55.520 --> 0:17:58.040 the book, Molly, because at this point you should see 0:17:58.040 --> 0:18:00.800 this bad boy. Look at this. Look at this. 0:18:01.119 --> 0:18:02.720 Look at that cover art. 0:18:02.880 --> 0:18:05.920 There we go, there we go, full cover art. Look 0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:12.040 at the size of his name. There it looks king 0:18:12.160 --> 0:18:15.640 Ridge nineteen forty five. Yeah, like it's a book about 0:18:15.640 --> 0:18:19.000 a two year old Newt Gingrich and kind. 0:18:18.800 --> 0:18:20.760 Of that's like a sci fi fielder. If a listener, 0:18:21.000 --> 0:18:23.199 you know, if you're not watching this on YouTube, I 0:18:23.400 --> 0:18:25.399 don't ever go to YouTube dot com. I'm not watching 0:18:25.400 --> 0:18:27.679 this on YouTube. The cover of the book is on 0:18:27.720 --> 0:18:29.800 the books Wikipedia page, and it has kind of a 0:18:29.920 --> 0:18:31.159 sci fi vibe to it. 0:18:31.480 --> 0:18:33.640 Yeah, now I want you to look at the back here. 0:18:33.760 --> 0:18:37.040 First off, Nut's smaller than I expected when you see 0:18:37.080 --> 0:18:39.000 him in a photo like this. This is a picture 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:42.560 of him with his co author, William R. Forstun Uh 0:18:42.600 --> 0:18:46.719 and with Jim Bain, who is the owner of Baine Publishing. 0:18:46.800 --> 0:18:49.440 And we're going to be talking a lot about Baine Publishing. 0:18:49.720 --> 0:18:53.000 I also related to Baine Capital or Bane. The Batman 0:18:53.080 --> 0:18:54.040 villain no. 0:18:53.880 --> 0:18:58.400 Not at all spelled differently, has not broken Batman's back. 0:18:58.680 --> 0:19:01.000 I do. I do really like the hitler on the 0:19:01.040 --> 0:19:03.919 back here. You can see him here. He's he just 0:19:03.960 --> 0:19:05.720 looks so happy. 0:19:06.400 --> 0:19:09.240 You hold it up to me on camera, on camera, 0:19:09.560 --> 0:19:10.119 other camera. 0:19:10.440 --> 0:19:14.080 Yeah, it's hard to figure out here, Yeah that way, Yeah, 0:19:14.080 --> 0:19:17.600 there we go. Wow, that's a good hitler. Look at him. 0:19:17.800 --> 0:19:18.320 Look at him. 0:19:18.960 --> 0:19:22.000 The choice Spokinger. 0:19:21.720 --> 0:19:23.640 Is six feet tall. How big are those other men? 0:19:24.720 --> 0:19:27.359 Oh wow? Because yeah, I thought he was actually tall 0:19:27.400 --> 0:19:30.200 so these guys. So I think it's William Forst. It 0:19:30.359 --> 0:19:33.720 is just kind of a fucking mountain of a man. Yeah, 0:19:33.760 --> 0:19:36.280 he's got to be like six three sixty four. It's 0:19:36.320 --> 0:19:40.000 a big guy. Jim Bain not a big guy, also 0:19:40.440 --> 0:19:43.920 has the and I say this with all loved pornographers, 0:19:44.119 --> 0:19:47.360 he has the smile of a pornographer, right like, look 0:19:47.359 --> 0:19:50.359 at that. That's a man who's looking at you naked. 0:19:50.640 --> 0:19:52.919 Like there's no, there's no, there's no other way to 0:19:52.960 --> 0:19:56.680 describe the look on Jim Bayin's face. Speaking of people 0:19:56.720 --> 0:20:00.400 who look at you naked. Our sponsors don't they would 0:20:00.480 --> 0:20:06.359 never do that. They're gentlemen, you know, or gentle thems, 0:20:06.760 --> 0:20:10.879 because I think they probably don't identify as a binary 0:20:11.000 --> 0:20:15.800 gender given the bar raytheon is definitely non binary. Yes, 0:20:16.840 --> 0:20:24.960 speaking of non binary, here's more ads and we're back. 0:20:25.240 --> 0:20:27.920 So I want to get into the book jacket of this, 0:20:28.080 --> 0:20:30.840 of this mammajama. Let's let's see what this is about. 0:20:31.080 --> 0:20:33.240 And you can tell right away on the inside. This 0:20:33.320 --> 0:20:38.679 was a nineteen ninety five, twenty four US dollars That 0:20:38.840 --> 0:20:41.800 is kind of pressing way way too much money to 0:20:41.920 --> 0:20:45.639 spend on Newton Gingrich's nineteen forty five Holy. 0:20:45.480 --> 0:20:48.080 Shit, twenty nine to ninety nine for that hardback today 0:20:48.160 --> 0:20:49.040 would be pushing it. 0:20:49.280 --> 0:20:52.879 Yeah, yeah, this is like maybe like a fifteen dollars book. Man, 0:20:52.960 --> 0:20:57.640 that's a lot. That's a lot, So introducing Lieutenant Commander 0:20:57.840 --> 0:21:01.119 James Martel. He's the right man in the right place 0:21:01.200 --> 0:21:05.040 at a very bad time. The year is nineteen forty five. 0:21:05.440 --> 0:21:09.200 In Europe, the Third Reich reigns triumphant, the Soviet Union 0:21:09.280 --> 0:21:11.639