Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, mm hmm.
Speaker 2: What's up everybody. How y'all doing all right? Right? Right?
Speaker 3: You got a day in the life. Yeah, this is
Speaker 3: this is workforce.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 5: We're super blessed everybody beverage and kicking it, eating good,
Speaker 5: talking with people, smoking a little bit, listening to Christina
Speaker 5: yell at usation.
Speaker 3: But man, final show of the day.
Speaker 5: And I couldn't be more excited because I fucked you
Speaker 5: from a distance, like I feel like we have the
Speaker 5: same type of fire, and then like Jelanie play with
Speaker 5: you and some of the homies play with you. So
Speaker 5: to hear your stories it made me love you even
Speaker 5: more so. I hope you're really here to talk to
Speaker 5: your ship today, is all I.
Speaker 2: Got to say. One of the real ones.
Speaker 3: Very here here to talk your ship today. Max, Not
Speaker 3: we can just stopped now, Matt.
Speaker 4: No, man, Matt, That's why I'm the last mother show. Yeah,
Speaker 4: mic a great show.
Speaker 3: Yes, sir Man, welcome to the show, Man, Vernon Maxwell.
Speaker 4: Appreciate your.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 4: You know I was life.
Speaker 5: We talked a little bit off camera. You were in
Speaker 5: a little you know, you know, you like to bike.
Speaker 5: He was in a little accident, hurt yourself, but how
Speaker 5: was life. Maybe you're pulling up on sixty.
Speaker 4: Look yeah, yeah, yeah, damn give it up for that
Speaker 4: man to be real appreciated. Man, Yeah, my old last
Speaker 4: thing to be sixty. So I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 4: But I'm not. But I'm blessed man. Like you said,
Speaker 4: I like to ride. Gotta get more off the street.
Speaker 4: I ain't on the street as much. I'm on the
Speaker 4: peloton now but thanks to my daughter Ariel for you know,
Speaker 4: buying me in my peloton, so keep me off the streets.
Speaker 4: So other than that, man, I'm you know, got my
Speaker 4: thing going on what I do. But other than that,
Speaker 4: I ain't doing ship man, just out here. Thanks for
Speaker 4: having me on.
Speaker 6: And one thing I want to tell you to motherfuckers,
Speaker 6: why the hell it Tuck is.
Speaker 3: So fucking.
Speaker 2: As many times a ship?
Speaker 4: Damn I said they care.
Speaker 6: Everybody kept telling me, Hey, when y'all gonna get this moke?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we're gonna get max on. Yeah, okay, find
Speaker 4: it dead this ship, We're gonna take that.
Speaker 2: That's what. That's how.
Speaker 5: Sometimes they say perfect time, it sounds like it's too
Speaker 5: late that some people say, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: I saw. I don't know how long ago.
Speaker 5: It was a couple of months ago, but it made
Speaker 5: me spit my drink out and send it to my
Speaker 5: group chat. When you went off on Vincent, ask you
Speaker 5: about the motherfucker owe you some money. First she was
Speaker 5: gonna give me past that sound of life.
Speaker 2: But then you change.
Speaker 3: What made you change your mind?
Speaker 4: Because I thought about it and I was like, Ship,
Speaker 4: I got to get this motherfucker money back.
Speaker 6: You gotta get it back. I need that ten thousand.
Speaker 3: Come on, man, come on man, goddamn mother.
Speaker 4: So at the end of the day, I was like, nah,
Speaker 4: mother forgetting my motherfucker money. Got oh man loan, Oh yeah,
Speaker 4: call me on his knees. You know, you know, I
Speaker 4: was really, yes, we're gonna bless the motherfucker. And then
Speaker 4: motherfucker just highway robbed. Motherfucker then changed the number to
Speaker 4: shut down. I supposed to get my money transferred over
Speaker 4: into the bank. I was like, I was on goddamn fast,
Speaker 4: spreeed our fam he ain't go I got him. I
Speaker 4: said that the motherfucker went straight to boss man. I
Speaker 4: ain't no borse Mon just went straight. I said, oh,
Speaker 4: hell no, And I said, nah, you know, sometime on
Speaker 4: this motherfucker phone. I said, yes, I have to call
Speaker 4: him twice back to back. You know, the game on
Speaker 4: some moll fucker. So I went on, did that? I said,
Speaker 4: let me try to shoot again.
Speaker 2: Ship.
Speaker 4: Man, here's this motherfucker.
Speaker 6: This motherfucker.
Speaker 2: Ain't this the same?
Speaker 4: And I said, oh, my goodness. I looked at my peoples.
Speaker 4: I said, oh this monther fucker don got me.
Speaker 2: He didn't.
Speaker 1: We got to go on.
Speaker 4: I got to get live in this ball.
Speaker 6: But I've got to get live in this motherfucker here.
Speaker 2: So I mean, man, I got to get live. I
Speaker 2: had to get live.
Speaker 3: I ask you, bro, come on, come on, don't do that.
Speaker 4: Man, where you act? My nigga, I'm looking at all
Speaker 4: the cameras.
Speaker 3: When you're gonna find them in one of them to
Speaker 3: get that in.
Speaker 2: Bro, he ain't got to do all that.
Speaker 4: I ain't got to give it ship. I take five now.
Speaker 3: On the discount you have to work with.
Speaker 1: To get ship.
Speaker 2: Oh God, oh my.
Speaker 5: God, bless god, bless you came up. You came up
Speaker 5: in the bad boy era. Kenny Smith once said, in
Speaker 5: the nineties you were the most feared player. Where did
Speaker 5: that mindset and entire where you come from?
Speaker 4: Oh man, that's I mean. Damn, I'm just still laughing.
Speaker 4: But I'm sorry, Matt. You know, I came from my
Speaker 4: upbringing the well, you know, I'm from shout out to Gainesville, Florida,
Speaker 4: sugar Hill, my hood.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm from Gainesville, Florida. From every Damn right,
Speaker 4: that's what I say. That's what That's what everybody said.
Speaker 4: You know, Max, I mean everybody, we love you, We
Speaker 4: invite you to all the hoods. And that's what I was.
Speaker 4: I'm just a hood nigga, you know my type of Yeah,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And and everywhere I go,
Speaker 4: everybody love old Max. So I feel like I touched
Speaker 4: a lot of people so and physically already.
Speaker 3: Used to put them balls on people.
Speaker 2: I used to touching people with them balls.
Speaker 3: I'd heard a couple of stories.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I put these things on you.
Speaker 7: Yeah, the respect didn't come off just no, no, no,
Speaker 7: can't real work, really yeah, real work some time to
Speaker 7: really hit him off up side of ship.
Speaker 5: Speaking of that, Jack, tell everyone how Maximus had to
Speaker 5: whoop your ass one time.
Speaker 2: I remember, so so this this jo I don't even
Speaker 2: know though, so he basically they basically raised me.
Speaker 3: We raised this young ass.
Speaker 7: So coming up, coming up, So I'm getting the league.
Speaker 7: You know, I'm feeling myself a little bit. But I'm
Speaker 7: in the league now, as you should. So I went
Speaker 7: to I went to the Hawks, and uh, you went
Speaker 7: with the Mavericks. She was, Uh no, I was in Houston.
Speaker 7: It was yeah, it was Houston, and I got my
Speaker 7: family and that everybody.
Speaker 2: I was at the crib right extra banking. So oh man,
Speaker 2: So I probably hit a shout into himself. I said something.
Speaker 7: I'm like, I'm bust He turned around out and what
Speaker 7: you said to him? I said, I bust your ass
Speaker 7: like that can't funk me and something like that. Right,
Speaker 7: And I'm knowing he know me, but I'm not thinking
Speaker 7: what's reply feel to be? Because he was always love
Speaker 7: or raising me. He turned around and say, young kick
Speaker 7: you kill you out here. I'm like, that's the first
Speaker 7: time and the last time I backed down somebody then.
Speaker 7: But it was it was humbling because not only did
Speaker 7: he raise me, but he never came to me like that,
Speaker 7: and I never came to him like that.
Speaker 2: But that was our first account in the league. You
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, I would kill your ass.
Speaker 4: We loved him.
Speaker 2: We raised him.
Speaker 7: Man.
Speaker 4: He used to come in fun direct some and he's
Speaker 4: the only young boy we really still ow that. He
Speaker 4: played with Moses Malone, God bless him. He played with
Speaker 4: a bunch of killers. Man with us over there and
Speaker 4: Clyde Drexler's and ship, other guys you know, Lodger Ones
Speaker 4: and you know Robert who is it played against some guys,
Speaker 4: some killers over there, man so and some guys that's
Speaker 4: off the street. Can come tell you could have played
Speaker 4: in the league too, just so all over the world. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: but yeah, but it.
Speaker 2: Was they raised me or they didn't brace you, bro,
Speaker 2: they didn't judge me.
Speaker 4: That's my guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you love me, I love you.
Speaker 3: I love y'all for that love it ship talking? Where'd
Speaker 3: that come from?
Speaker 2: Going with it? Yeah?
Speaker 4: I mean my mom is telling me all the time, boy,
Speaker 4: stop talking, So damn you you can't tell me so
Speaker 4: much then I tell you to shut up. So yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean I've been I've been doing that ship all
Speaker 4: my life. And then when I compete, I don't know nothing,
Speaker 4: you know, I'll be spitting and talking and got damn
Speaker 4: fussing and cussing, and everybody just to say, man, God,
Speaker 4: damn did this motherfucker ever shut up?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 2: And how bad he get up? You didn't drop by
Speaker 2: two three in a row?
Speaker 4: And oh lord, it's gonna get bad, you know. I
Speaker 4: see the young boys do all this and all this
Speaker 4: and all that. See back in the day, we used
Speaker 4: to do a little shake and you know, ice of
Speaker 4: shimming and all I used to do at other ship,
Speaker 4: kick my leg up and do up Michael Jackson dance
Speaker 4: or some ship. You know, I can't do it right now.
Speaker 6: I want to stand up and show you more, myris hurt.
Speaker 6: I wouldn't got to show.
Speaker 2: It to you.
Speaker 4: I can't do it. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: Yeah, coming up in Florida, how many sports did you play? Ship?
Speaker 4: I played?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 6: Coming up, I played football, basketball, at baseball.
Speaker 2: But then.
Speaker 4: When I really got serious, I stopped playing baseball, like
Speaker 4: after after elementary. Then I was when I was football
Speaker 4: seriously quarterback. Yeah, I was out standing quarterback. Run oh yeah,
Speaker 4: both yeah, yeah, yeah. I was triple threat. You know
Speaker 4: we used to run the option back there. J. J. Watson,
Speaker 4: J J. Watson, you know you know, so yeah I was.
Speaker 4: I was a dual threat, and I got recruited everywhere
Speaker 4: about for football. I won state championship. Well, no, I'm sorry,
Speaker 4: we got to the state championship. We got our ass
Speaker 4: beat by.
Speaker 6: I think at least motherfuckers had been grown. I will
Speaker 6: never ever forget that ass whipping man.
Speaker 4: From wald Over. Where the fuck they was from Florida.
Speaker 4: I never heard of smithersfucking place. This motherucker boys had
Speaker 4: to be some grown ass man. Man when we out there,
Speaker 4: we're seventeen, sixteen years old, I tell his motherfucker motherfuckers. Man,
Speaker 4: oh man, I never never got hit the heart in
Speaker 4: my life. When I stopped playing that ship your life was,
Speaker 4: it stopped it. But man, this motherfuck is bad. But
Speaker 4: I know this motherfucker's grown. But uh but I played
Speaker 4: football too, but end up.
Speaker 2: You know in Florida. Yeah, any pros you came against,
Speaker 2: you come across at school playing.
Speaker 4: Football, football, Ship, Dion and all them boys, man, Michael, yeah,
Speaker 4: all those guys, yeah, one side, Yeah.
Speaker 7: You know, all us from that same era and so yeah,
Speaker 7: you know, yeah, how was the racism in Gainesville back then?
Speaker 4: Oh man, Ship motherfucker done ran me around the corner
Speaker 4: a bunch of times. Motherfucker from elementary school, that's all.
Speaker 4: And I swear and I mean, it's like, man, I
Speaker 4: thought about this ship the other day. I was walking
Speaker 4: my two pits the other day. Man, I'm bladed. She
Speaker 4: said this ship. I'm for real, man, gonna glad you
Speaker 4: bumped this up. So I was walking my fist the
Speaker 4: other day.
Speaker 1: I was like, Man, God.
Speaker 4: Damn, I'm thinking about the ship with the motherfuckers chased
Speaker 4: me all the time.
Speaker 6: You know, from elementary school. It's like three times a week.
Speaker 6: Motherfuckers ain't have a cab on the back of the truck.
Speaker 4: Need two white boys and getting the truck and chase
Speaker 4: me and my homies, you know, back to the hood man,
Speaker 4: and this ship trauma. I mean, man, I was, man,
Speaker 4: this was every goddamn day coming back from school.
Speaker 6: We had to figure out how to fuck we're gonna get.
Speaker 4: Back, man, this is this is the sit. I'm old.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was still chasing us there, Yeah, but it
Speaker 2: was a ship. Man. It was bad.
Speaker 4: I mean when I came up, but then when I
Speaker 4: got to a certain age and then I you know,
Speaker 4: I didn't and I was you know, sports kind of
Speaker 4: like alleviate a lot of that, you know, when you
Speaker 4: become that guy in your city, in that small city
Speaker 4: of Gainesville, Florida. I was becoming that guy sports wise,
Speaker 4: so I was recognizable. So everybody was like, you know,
Speaker 4: lead that motherfucker right, you don't go somewhere lead that
Speaker 4: month fuck alone.
Speaker 5: So and uh but other than you know, that's so question,
Speaker 5: I started fighting because of that. So I came from
Speaker 5: San Jose, which is south of here, and I went
Speaker 5: up to Sacramento, was a majority white cowtown, so nigga.
Speaker 2: Was thrown all around.
Speaker 5: So I was a nine years old third grade crying,
Speaker 5: I don't know why these kids won't let me play.
Speaker 5: My dad's have to call you nigga fight them. So
Speaker 5: in third grade is when I really started fighting because
Speaker 5: of racism. But like you said, I was the kids
Speaker 5: would let me play. But once they let me play,
Speaker 5: I was good at football, baseball, basketball, I did track too,
Speaker 5: so I did all the sports. Like you said, you
Speaker 5: kind of get acceptance because you can play. But in
Speaker 5: the same time, my high schools got burned down by
Speaker 5: the KKK my senior year. They did with my sister,
Speaker 5: so you know what I mean. So you're always going
Speaker 5: to be what you are no matter what you could do.
Speaker 4: Don't forget that.
Speaker 3: So where did your for when did you have to
Speaker 3: start fighting?
Speaker 2: What was that? Or red? Did you? Did you ever
Speaker 2: fight back?
Speaker 4: Or I was fighting my whole damn life, man, I
Speaker 4: mean ship, I was fighting in elementary school. I mean
Speaker 4: I had a little fucking gang.
Speaker 2: I thought.
Speaker 3: Gang, I thought in elementary school.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the sugar Hill Gang, my homes.
Speaker 2: Y'all know who we are.
Speaker 7: You know, they shout out.
Speaker 4: They want to take back.
Speaker 2: They can't take back what we did, Like they take
Speaker 2: back where we were going.
Speaker 4: A little store up street, the little seven or eleven
Speaker 4: go off. They're still in the hard candy and ship
Speaker 4: and all that ship, going to school and selling it,
Speaker 4: just trying.
Speaker 2: To trying to come up as money.
Speaker 4: Boy, we could buy that little you know, that grocery
Speaker 4: smoke of that damn I don't know what that ship
Speaker 4: was back.
Speaker 2: Then, but that was yeah, that dirt, that dirt, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: we yeah.
Speaker 7: You graduated in eighty eight, number two all time leading
Speaker 7: scorer in SEC history twenty five hundred points. You had
Speaker 7: a little situation in NCAA because you wanted to get
Speaker 7: paid and make some money with the way they're doing now,
Speaker 7: but you just had to do it illegally. Then they
Speaker 7: race your numbers your junior senior year. What kind of
Speaker 7: bullshit is that?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 6: See, now that's another form of racism right here we're talking.
Speaker 3: By the way, is my song right here like that?
Speaker 5: Hey, So before we got on camera, we obviously fellowship
Speaker 5: that had enough smoke the custom and drink a little bit.
Speaker 2: So these boys right now, that's racist. I felt that,
Speaker 2: but I tell you no, it was.
Speaker 4: It was because of simmer Fact. Okay, now, damn man,
Speaker 4: I gotta tell the story because I want this ship to.
Speaker 3: Be known, man, just because to tell them to school.
Speaker 4: Okay, it's the University of Florida Gators.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 6: When I first get there, you know, everything's cool, you know,
Speaker 6: and you know we had this ship.
Speaker 4: You know it was drug testing and ship. So I
Speaker 4: ain't know nothing about the motherfucker's drug testing all this
Speaker 4: ship like that. So I'm cool. I'm just you know,
Speaker 4: I'm blowing and I'm blowing, I'm slarting, I'm smoking, you know,
Speaker 4: I'm I'm doing it all and I'm drinking. You know, shit,
Speaker 4: if I'm blowing, I know I gotta be doing that.
Speaker 4: I know I'm gonna be drinking. So I got to
Speaker 4: get the drain going. So and so I'm doing all that.
Speaker 4: And then so they you know, they say, three times
Speaker 4: you get busted and you fail a drug test, they
Speaker 4: kick you out to school. So first time, okay, they
Speaker 4: slap you on your wrist. Second time they be like
Speaker 4: telling you, okay, you might need to go to a facility,
Speaker 4: you know, in house, or you can stay out and
Speaker 4: go back. So this is what this mid eighties, Yes, yeah,
Speaker 4: just eighty yeah, eighty four, eighty four when I was
Speaker 4: doing this, yeah, eighty four.
Speaker 6: So and so I'm doing all this and then I'm
Speaker 6: so I get busted on the first test.
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh shit. So they came to me, they said,
Speaker 4: all right, we ain't gonna we just letting you know.
Speaker 4: You fell a drug test, all right, so watch yourself.
Speaker 4: So house, all right? Cool?
Speaker 6: So shit, next day week came, Shit, I failed to
Speaker 6: damn next one.
Speaker 3: But I'm like, goddamn, you just tested. Yes, I'm just like, goddamn,
Speaker 3: we gonna get thirty days.
Speaker 4: How's my name?
Speaker 3: Come on, man?
Speaker 4: Thank you man?
Speaker 6: How my name stay in the motherfucking hat?
Speaker 4: And I'm finding out these motherfuckers got my name and
Speaker 4: the hat like ten motherfucking times, everybody else naming else
Speaker 4: something motherfuckers might name have the name and the motherfucker hat,
Speaker 4: cause you know, we ain't got but fifteen players on
Speaker 4: the motherfucker. So I got to have fifteen names in there.
Speaker 6: Ship burning in that motherfucker ten times. So goddamn, I'm
Speaker 6: getting picked every fucking week.
Speaker 4: I ain't goddamn. So you know, I didn't fucking like
Speaker 4: they're supposed to kick me out of the tapstick. They're
Speaker 4: supposed to kick me out after the first fucking semester.
Speaker 4: So but nah, they was like now and then, so
Speaker 4: I had it. That's what I was telling, like the alumni,
Speaker 4: because I'm from Gainesville, Florida, and I stayed home and
Speaker 4: went to school. That's where the University of Florida's at
Speaker 4: in Gainesville. So I was telling the damn head leading rumniers.
Speaker 4: I was telling the real this motherfucker's the fucking with me,
Speaker 4: because you know, they got my name and his damn
Speaker 4: hat like too many fucking times. And so and then
Speaker 4: we did a little investigation and it was like that,
Speaker 4: al So we figured it out. Yeah, it was like that, Well,
Speaker 4: see they don't talk and tell the truth.
Speaker 6: So the motherfucker was like that, So okay, so they started.
Speaker 3: Me all back over, so so you got to research
Speaker 3: your clock, yes, sir.
Speaker 4: All the way back to the Big Yell, all the
Speaker 4: way back to Big Hille. But shit, they adn't want
Speaker 4: to get rid of me, no way, because you was
Speaker 4: killing Yeah I was, you know, I was.
Speaker 2: I was. I came in.
Speaker 4: They wasn't doing nothing when I went there at that school,
Speaker 4: they wasn't making the playoffs and they wasn't doing shit.
Speaker 4: They wasn't making the NCAA tournament or nothing like that.
Speaker 4: I mean, they wasn't even winning twenty games. Yeah, when
Speaker 4: I came to that motherfucker, so they was going like
Speaker 4: fifteen fifteen and shit them niggas.
Speaker 6: I mean, I mean, I ain't gonna talk about nobody.
Speaker 2: So they ain't never tried to make it right, Like,
Speaker 2: what's your relationship now with them?
Speaker 7: Now?
Speaker 4: Well, God bless him, he's dead. But but that's what
Speaker 4: happened on draft day, all right. I done did all
Speaker 4: this my junior what my junior year? I should have left.
Speaker 4: That's when the NBA was calling for him. They said,
Speaker 4: come on, Max, you ready, You're good, You're gonna go.
Speaker 4: You know, lottery, you know, I say, god damn much.
Speaker 4: But now my mom. She telling me, nah, baby, I
Speaker 4: want you to stay and do this. So I'm like, God, damn.
Speaker 4: So I'm like, okay, damn, well, I really should have.
Speaker 4: I ain't want to be around that motherfucker no more,
Speaker 4: because I knew it was gonna be some shit with him.
Speaker 4: And God bless him. Man, I ain't I ain't really
Speaker 4: want to talk about him, but I knew it was
Speaker 4: gonna be some shit with him because he always started.
Speaker 6: He started like like fucking with me in practice and shit, you.
Speaker 4: Know, and and egging me on and shit like had
Speaker 4: making and then and and we stayed and ship and
Speaker 4: then one day when I was a senior, well when
Speaker 4: I was when I when I was a junior, go
Speaker 4: back to that. When I was a junior, he had
Speaker 4: he told it was like it was cool as hell
Speaker 4: before the time that they told me that, Okay, now
Speaker 4: you done waited too late. You can't say you're gonna
Speaker 4: go to the league. Now you got to stay in common. Man.
Speaker 4: When that time hit after I was a junior, I
Speaker 4: knew I had to go back as a singer. Man.
Speaker 4: That motherfucker was the devil. Man. I got treated like, man,
Speaker 4: oh my goodness, man, I never I never would have
Speaker 4: thought it. And yes, off for four straight years, and
Speaker 4: oh man, the way he bought my mom in there
Speaker 4: and did my mom.
Speaker 2: Man, it was it was.
Speaker 4: It was awful, man, it was.
Speaker 2: It was bad.
Speaker 4: But you know what I mean. I made it through that.
Speaker 4: But then week before the drift, two weeks before the drift,
Speaker 4: we down at the combine down in Orlando. I wake up.
Speaker 4: You know, we wasn't he We ain't have no goddamn phone.
Speaker 4: Back then, the phones wasn't really like that. You know,
Speaker 4: we go out and read, open up the door of
Speaker 4: your hotel room and you get the USA Today, and
Speaker 4: we read the USA Today.
Speaker 6: And then that's when I saw my damn pitching in
Speaker 6: the USA.
Speaker 4: To day bern Maxwell failed drug test at the University
Speaker 4: of Florida, I'm like, goddamn, I was gonna be a
Speaker 4: lottery pick.
Speaker 6: I went from damn top ten and the damn Fodier
Speaker 6: fifty picks.
Speaker 4: Goddamn that fucked me. I lost so much it was bad.
Speaker 4: So yeah, that's why I said that was some racism ship.
Speaker 4: And then they take my records away from me.
Speaker 3: So there you go, y'all gonna make that right, Florida.
Speaker 4: Yeah, come on, come on, and we got people being
Speaker 4: dealing with y'all with that, So yeah, y'all make that right,
Speaker 4: y'all call in.
Speaker 7: You can't you can't just raise twenty five hundreds. Come on, man,
Speaker 7: too much, that's too much.
Speaker 3: I was already on.
Speaker 5: That's right, my god, rookie year, worst year in Spurs history,
Speaker 5: only twenty one wins.
Speaker 2: So how was I mean? You you won?
Speaker 3: So how was it coming into the NBA your first year?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 4: It was crazy?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 4: I was swaying with Alvon Robinson?
Speaker 3: Man and what was he like?
Speaker 4: What a killer crazy motherfucker, motherfucking dog My good, yes, man,
Speaker 4: don't yeah, alamodes.
Speaker 2: Because arena so yeah, they got to have the curtains.
Speaker 2: Oh so I don't look even if the arena soul out,
Speaker 2: it looked like nobody in there.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I hated that, but yeah, man, Alvan Robinson
Speaker 4: was the killer man. And he's the first guy seen
Speaker 4: ever get a quadruple double ten rebounds, ten points, ten assists,
Speaker 4: ten steals. I ain't never seen that, and I seen
Speaker 4: it in the NBA and he was doing that on
Speaker 4: the regular. So him, but it wasn't me because we
Speaker 4: went twenty one and sixty one.
Speaker 3: I mean ship. Jack Robinson was on the team. Robinson
Speaker 3: on that team.
Speaker 4: Yes, his asses on that team.
Speaker 2: He was on that team.
Speaker 4: Ship, Willie Anderson was on that team, all that, all
Speaker 4: the asses on that team.
Speaker 2: Ship.
Speaker 6: We went twenty one and sixty one. But Ship I
Speaker 6: started thirteen point six.
Speaker 4: You know, that year we're losing as telling, but hey, man,
Speaker 4: fuck it, I felt like I had a good guy.
Speaker 2: Damn yeah, because and.
Speaker 4: We went twenty one and sixty one Ship but no man.
Speaker 4: Then the next year that's when everything went downhill over there.
Speaker 4: That's how I got to Houston. Yeah, you know so,
Speaker 4: but y'all probably was gonna ask me.
Speaker 5: That getting a chance to play with David Robinson and
Speaker 5: keem Elijah one comparing contrast and then what kind of
Speaker 5: fun with the playing with both them.
Speaker 4: David quiet guy, you know, just come to do his business,
Speaker 4: work hard, you know, don't talk a lot, go home.
Speaker 4: Great teammate, great, you know, I mean, just I mean,
Speaker 4: great individual man, just god fearing man, you know, good
Speaker 4: family man. You know. Just that's David. Yeah, large one.
Speaker 4: First couple of years when I was there in Houston,
Speaker 4: you know, he's you know, and when he before he
Speaker 4: became Muslim. You know, he was kind of you know,
Speaker 4: it was different. But then once he became the way,
Speaker 4: he went Muslim and he got his life in order,
Speaker 4: you know, with with with the ally. And that's when
Speaker 4: I knew we were going within US championship because really
Speaker 4: he got just that much better man, man, just that
Speaker 4: much better. He stopped doing everything he used to do
Speaker 4: so and but he got just that much better man.
Speaker 4: He was a killer man. I mean I never ever
Speaker 4: seen nothing like this, a big man. He went on
Speaker 4: a tear for about about four five years, I think,
Speaker 4: just went on a straight tear.
Speaker 6: Nobody couldn't stop it. I'm sure everybody's seen it.
Speaker 4: Looking at me like shit, like huh like yeah, huh,
Speaker 4: y'all shit, y'all saw it.
Speaker 2: Yeah shit.
Speaker 4: So I mean, yeah, he went on a straight tear. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Ninety four the chem Olaja one was the VP season.
Speaker 5: He killed twenty seven eleven four four in a block
Speaker 5: and a half. But you also got uh in some
Speaker 5: trouble that year. Did you get some trouble ninety four?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: You have to sit down for a minute. Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: what happened?
Speaker 4: That's when I see there some of my shit.
Speaker 6: I slapped the shit out of a small fucker and
Speaker 6: white boy over there in Portland.
Speaker 3: In the game.
Speaker 4: Uh yes, during the game the stands.
Speaker 3: So what I've seen it, but heard that guy.
Speaker 6: You know, I shouldn't have ever been playing. But see
Speaker 6: when I you know, I'm so real.
Speaker 4: I'm like, I couldn't sit and mourn, you know, out
Speaker 4: and just mourn.
Speaker 2: And I had to be doing.
Speaker 4: Something more than what what happened, like my daughter's still
Speaker 4: born death. So yeah, so I couldn't. I couldn't sit
Speaker 4: and just you know, I buried my daughter and uh
Speaker 4: so I couldn't. I couldn't sit there and do that.
Speaker 4: So I said, damn, I'm gonna get back on the
Speaker 4: floor and I'm gonna play, you know, because now just
Speaker 4: two and a half hours, well, I don't even think
Speaker 4: about that, you know what I mean. And that's where
Speaker 4: that's where my head was so and that's and that's
Speaker 4: what I was trying to do. And ship and I
Speaker 4: get to Portland where these racist motherfuckers at, and I
Speaker 4: mean just literally just started, you know, and everybody knew,
Speaker 4: you know, my daughter, and I mean night he had
Speaker 4: even put it on my shoes, and man, man, fuck
Speaker 4: that Amber, fuck her.
Speaker 2: Oh you had to do.
Speaker 4: My daughter name, that was my daughter. And I'm telling you,
Speaker 4: and this is the crazy thing about the whole situation.
Speaker 4: I'm telling the security guard right here, black man, I'm
Speaker 4: telling him, I'm just like, man, ain't a lot of
Speaker 4: your niggas in here, so you know in Portland, ain't
Speaker 4: a lot of y'all being in the game. Can't even
Speaker 4: afford to coming this mork. So i'body shit, I'm telling
Speaker 4: you many man, you gotta go get that handle a man,
Speaker 4: gow handling. Tell it, man, what are you talking about?
Speaker 2: Handle it right?
Speaker 4: And I'm telling Kenny Smith, Kenny Smith sitting right here
Speaker 4: with me, Tim Brow, my boy, sitting right here with me,
Speaker 4: right here, they sitting me, and I'm I'm down there
Speaker 4: towards the end, and so Rudy T here this shit.
Speaker 4: Rudy t came down and told me, hey, man, get
Speaker 4: your ash in the game, get your fucking ahead in
Speaker 4: the game. Fuck him. I said, Man, do you hear
Speaker 4: what the fuck he's saying?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 4: I said, who the tea? Fuck you too, And I
Speaker 4: went on walked in the game. But still while I
Speaker 4: went in the game, I was looking up here at
Speaker 4: this smallfucker because he steadily egging at me. He's steady
Speaker 4: fucking with me, so I'm looking at him. I ain't
Speaker 4: in the game, so shit about a minute with the teeth,
Speaker 4: b I ain't your ass out here, man, go sit
Speaker 4: your ass down there and get there, and somebody put
Speaker 4: somebody else in. And that's when I was like, Okay,
Speaker 4: that's what I wanted. The ship was premeditated. This what
Speaker 4: I wanted, and sown ass. I sat down and I
Speaker 4: wish I could get up. So I like to do
Speaker 4: my I like to act that ship, but I can't
Speaker 4: do it there because I got the well.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 4: But that's when I jumped up out my seat and
Speaker 4: the skirty guard was right behind me and I hit
Speaker 4: his eyes. I hit him on the fall and I
Speaker 4: knocked him probably over there where you asked, sweet I
Speaker 4: knocked whale wall.
Speaker 3: And nobody was stopping you.
Speaker 4: Nobody, no, no, sir, everybody got the it's like the
Speaker 4: Red Sea part of it's like everybody. I just and
Speaker 4: I and all I can see is him. I was
Speaker 4: walking and I just walked. I ain't run, I didn't try.
Speaker 4: I walked about eight rolls up and then I just
Speaker 4: looked at him and I knocked Ship out of him
Speaker 4: and then walked back down and walked back down and
Speaker 4: then sat down, and it was like police came and
Speaker 4: got me, saying come on. I was like, Ship, I'm
Speaker 4: used to this.
Speaker 2: I'm used to this.
Speaker 4: But my whole thing is like Ship, you know, have
Speaker 4: you ever told that?
Speaker 3: Have you ever told that full story? Have you told
Speaker 3: that full story?
Speaker 7: Oh?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I told That's what God bless him. That's
Speaker 4: what I told David Stern.
Speaker 5: But he seemed like he didn't want to understand when
Speaker 5: I was what I'm saying that the fans, the media,
Speaker 5: but they try to paint you as you're just going
Speaker 5: in the stands and trying.
Speaker 4: To see you know, back then, it wasn't all them
Speaker 4: cameras and back then like now, see how somebody would
Speaker 4: have got that.
Speaker 6: But you know, I mean, it wasn't nothing.
Speaker 4: It wasn't nobody.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, right.
Speaker 4: See what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: But as you know, he was saying, and there's been
Speaker 5: an issue in the League of late and obviously it
Speaker 5: happened back then. Were fans just think they can say, yeah, man,
Speaker 5: you're gonna go, We're gonna.
Speaker 2: Go up there and hear them mother they get out
Speaker 2: of the leave that leave.
Speaker 4: That careful you're talking to Yeah, that's right, watching damnselfs.
Speaker 2: Y'all see how I was raised by the best. All right,
Speaker 2: y'all took care of pulling round one though three one?
Speaker 2: How was that series was a dream? Just like that?
Speaker 4: Well yeah, well dreaming? Well yeah, then you know what
Speaker 4: I mean, love you Clyde. You know Clyde hell of
Speaker 4: a guy, but I know he was just gonna put
Speaker 4: the head down and go right. Yeah, every so y'all
Speaker 4: gonna lock that up. Yeah, but yeah, it was easy series,
Speaker 4: easy series.
Speaker 2: Yeah, y'all. Y'all were successful against them the sea.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, they couldn't beat us. Yeah yeah with
Speaker 4: a big apron, not with duckworth. Yeah yeah, no disrespect, yes,
Speaker 4: yeah that's right.
Speaker 7: Y'all got photash, y'all got second round. Y'all got fots
Speaker 7: that defend the Western confage. You dropped the first two
Speaker 7: games at home and normally when you lose to a
Speaker 7: home and the men, the series is basically yeah, you
Speaker 7: know what I'm saying, But y'all find a way game
Speaker 7: three on the road, and you dropped thirty four.
Speaker 2: What do you remember about this series?
Speaker 4: Well, yes, sir, yeah, crush two games. We were up
Speaker 4: like eighteen in both games. Man, we're up eighteen in
Speaker 4: both games. Charles Bockley, Kevin Johnson, Johnson and Marley and
Speaker 4: all the boy they came back and they beat us
Speaker 4: both games. And so before we even get on the
Speaker 4: plane to go after Phoenix, they had all already in
Speaker 4: the paper choke City. They were calling us.
Speaker 6: I think we were number one. Yeah, we was number one,
Speaker 6: but they called us choke city.
Speaker 4: So because we have home but yeah, we had home
Speaker 4: court all the way through, that's right, that's what they
Speaker 4: So they called us choke City before we even got
Speaker 4: on the plane. I was in the paper the next
Speaker 4: day because we're down oh too, lost to eighteen point leads.
Speaker 4: So and I was like, we was going out there.
Speaker 4: A lot of guys on the plane like shit, man,
Speaker 4: I shoot this ship about you know, I'm going on
Speaker 4: sleep this ship about over. You know that ship it
Speaker 4: ain't never been really done. My fuckers come down, oh too,
Speaker 4: you know, And you don't lost home court advantage, you
Speaker 4: don't lost both games at home? Come on, man, I was,
Speaker 4: you know, but my crazy ass, you know, I don't
Speaker 4: I'm go down shooting. Yeah, that's what I was like,
Speaker 4: fuck it and Dream right like, he ain't give a
Speaker 4: fuck either. He thought it was old with too so Ship.
Speaker 4: I just went out there the first half.
Speaker 6: I tried shit, I had two points in the first half.
Speaker 4: Ship. In the second half, that's when I went out
Speaker 4: there and got thirty two.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: That's when I went and tuck over the game and
Speaker 4: won the game for us when we were down to one.
Speaker 4: Then Ship, after the game, I told Dream, Okay, we're
Speaker 4: back in it. Now, come on, come on, gonna do
Speaker 4: what you do. Dream and Dream talk over the ship
Speaker 4: and then ended up beating them three four. I mean
Speaker 4: I'm in four three and so yeah, that's how we
Speaker 4: won that round two.
Speaker 7: I mean, after round two, y'all get to the finals
Speaker 7: against Utah Westcarbage finals.
Speaker 2: Yeah, y'all wining five. Yeah.
Speaker 7: What's your feelings towards you, car, I mean you're feeling
Speaker 7: towards Utah has been documented.
Speaker 2: You don't you don't like Utah. I don't like Utah.
Speaker 2: You got so much That's why I.
Speaker 6: Say, you gonna keep saying it because once again Red
Speaker 6: Nick motherfucker.
Speaker 2: Yeah up there.
Speaker 4: I mean that's all they did was called me nigga,
Speaker 4: and talk about my mama they don't even know, talk
Speaker 4: about my grandma, talk about my wife, talking about my kids,
Speaker 4: call them nigga this, nigga that, and and then they
Speaker 4: thank you. I'm supposed to say nothing, and it's just
Speaker 4: it's bad in Utah. It's just it's awful. That's why
Speaker 4: they number one on my hit list. When I got
Speaker 4: something to say about the mother, I got something to say.
Speaker 6: A boy, the I'm gonna kill y'all.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna continue because that's what I said when I
Speaker 4: got a platform, I can kill you motherfuckers. I'm gonna
Speaker 4: kill y'all.
Speaker 3: We said the same thing about him too.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: It's not like bullshit. You saw first, Yes, a guy
Speaker 7: life stile. That was funny me in the jail suit
Speaker 7: and the NBA that sais nothing.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: He was right, I know, I know.
Speaker 3: That's thefore you had nice teeth too.
Speaker 2: Yes, I.
Speaker 4: Was mos.
Speaker 2: What was stocked him alone?
Speaker 4: Like oh man man man uh stopped and dirty as
Speaker 4: one of the dirtiest players in the NBA ever history.
Speaker 4: His little short little mail box looking like carry ass
Speaker 4: and he's dirty as hell. He's a dog. He's a demon,
Speaker 4: demon for real. He was a fucking just don't look
Speaker 4: like that, but he was nastiest. Yeah he's dirty dog
Speaker 4: me too, I love yeah, yeah yeah him And and
Speaker 4: then don't believe that motherfucker do this here too, dirty
Speaker 4: mother too.
Speaker 2: Mother.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, get that ship out and knock that sent
Speaker 4: y'all see, okay, my mother Honty got out. And there
Speaker 4: you got this big old motherfucker, wild ass country white mother.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 4: And then you got country boy ass fucker driving eighteen
Speaker 4: wheeler up the rig on the eighteen wheeler down in
Speaker 4: the goddamn stadium. Who's doing this? I mean what you
Speaker 4: got this? I got that. This motherfuck got an eighteen
Speaker 4: the rig, the whole the on the front end of
Speaker 4: the truck, right down to the game. That's what he
Speaker 4: drives to the game us this ship. But I love.
Speaker 2: The game.
Speaker 6: I love I love Carmelone. Don't get a confused I do.
Speaker 2: That's my guy.
Speaker 4: We had the same I love Carmeloan, but that motherfucker
Speaker 4: was different. Now, you goddamn rigg eighteen was rigged.
Speaker 7: Y you be for YouTube. I want to read you
Speaker 7: a tweet that you said. I hope everyone had good
Speaker 7: MLK there yesterday. I wondered, I wondered to stay the
Speaker 7: Utah celebrated.
Speaker 2: They even know who he is?
Speaker 3: That was recent?
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes they don't.
Speaker 2: They they don't they know? Oh my goodness, bro.
Speaker 4: Y'all it could be all the fun that.
Speaker 2: Max, That is what we needed. Max.
Speaker 5: I can't wait to ask you about the Seattle locker
Speaker 5: room and all get there were on the way we.
Speaker 2: Are, the way we actually were there.
Speaker 7: Jolney was there with you talk about Seattle and Paul Westball,
Speaker 7: your teammate Jo Line is here the spear chuckers.
Speaker 2: Do you know what spirit chupers? Yeah? I remember speaking again?
Speaker 2: Who speech?
Speaker 1: Remember that?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Tell remember in the Jungles, Yeah said that Paul Westball.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's trying to motivate him like a fo for.
Speaker 4: Me.
Speaker 2: And here the only one that reacts like he was
Speaker 2: biting these mails.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, JV.
Speaker 2: That's all JV do.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And Ben was just like looking just.
Speaker 4: And I was like, uh, what did he just say?
Speaker 2: That motherfucker?
Speaker 3: She was like.
Speaker 2: Hold on, this motherfucker just called her spirit.
Speaker 1: That's he remember.
Speaker 2: He was like, don't worry, Aboudy, I'm having out here
Speaker 2: in a couple of weeks. A couple of weeks later,
Speaker 2: he was gone, Yeah, he was gone. He was on bullshit.
Speaker 2: You can't try.
Speaker 7: You can't try to motivate a room for the black
Speaker 7: athe in the jungles.
Speaker 4: And ship spears and hunting and ship and motherfucker had
Speaker 4: me all up the way. I was like, it's crazy, man, checks.
Speaker 2: He he was different. How did you take that?
Speaker 4: I just I didn't like what he said. That's why
Speaker 4: I was looking at my people like, just, I mean,
Speaker 4: I really want this small fucker man go ahead with
Speaker 4: all that Westmall. We ain't gonna do that now, should
Speaker 4: I said, like that going with that, we ain't gonna
Speaker 4: do all that now. Ship, we get your ass jumped
Speaker 4: on if we'll get his ass jumped off ship.
Speaker 7: Hey, we we all, we all made mistakes. But I
Speaker 7: heard you made a mistake and accidentally hit Hardest Grint
Speaker 7: over the head with a dumb bell, trying to trying
Speaker 7: to both saying.
Speaker 2: Shoulder so that ain't so give us the true story.
Speaker 4: I was trying to hit get GP, Yeah, get GP
Speaker 4: upside this month for the head with a dumb hell.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it hit hards my boy, that's my boy and
Speaker 6: put him out two weeks.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was my fault, not to show that. That
Speaker 4: was my fis.
Speaker 2: Rotated cup.
Speaker 4: Yeah that's my boy. Yeah, don't have them young niggas
Speaker 4: come after me.
Speaker 3: So he was trying to get the GP. Happened g P?
Speaker 2: Did you know some you know GP really the same nigga?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, j did. He jumped on my my young boy.
Speaker 4: I hit my young boy for no reason and bust
Speaker 4: my man stuff my mom.
Speaker 2: Who's the young boy Shaman with sham wis?
Speaker 4: I like you man, all he's gonna do is work.
Speaker 4: Jim Rat staying in gym on the work. And you
Speaker 4: know I used to ham j Line and my guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah you know whatman servant serving GP. You better know it.
Speaker 2: That's not that's not like that.
Speaker 4: And I'm giving it to the white boy. I'm giving
Speaker 4: it to Brent Very. That's what we used to do
Speaker 4: all the time, me and Shaman second team. Yeah, you
Speaker 4: better know it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, to put me in the lineup, I told you
Speaker 4: we ain't paying me, lun you paid this mother, You
Speaker 4: paid me three.
Speaker 6: You get this motherfucker six.
Speaker 4: Gotta start the white boy and then I come in.
Speaker 6: Just play me about that twenty three, twenty four minutes.
Speaker 4: I'll be good with that on start him letting fuck
Speaker 4: that when we when you get in the when getting
Speaker 4: the pilling, just put me in. I'll run over. Motherfucker
Speaker 4: go to the free throw liner man. Yeah, that's what
Speaker 4: they used to do with me.
Speaker 5: So is there any truth to a Keen slapping the
Speaker 5: shit out of you at halftime?
Speaker 1: One time?
Speaker 2: Ship, There's a lot.
Speaker 4: Of truth to it, motherfucker, A lot of truth that shit.
Speaker 4: That motherfucker like he Spiper's hands on the ground and shuck, motherfuckering.
Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, hit me so goddamn heart wisdom, Seattle,
Speaker 4: every damn thing having shadow, God, damn FUCKSU. But we
Speaker 4: was in shadow was I was. I was having a
Speaker 4: bad first half and Ship we was playing Gary and
Speaker 4: them and Sean Kemp and all the motherfuckers. They had
Speaker 4: a squad over that motherfucker. Uh double deuces, Ricky Pierce,
Speaker 4: they had all they had a squad or whatever, Dannum
Speaker 4: barrows they have a squad. They just had a bunch
Speaker 4: of motherfuckers. Can bay so Derrick m Kid. Then now
Speaker 4: if I'm having a bad first half, I'm like, damn,
Speaker 4: you know how long that fucking walk is and see
Speaker 4: how I'm locking. Yeah, this like motherfucker walking fucking this
Speaker 4: ship around the blobber, round this damn building to come
Speaker 4: back in here. I mean they're walking so long. Yeah,
Speaker 4: so I'm mad. When I'm getting mad, I should spit.
Speaker 4: I'm walking. I'm spitting and the niggasu Sam sitting up
Speaker 4: and Robbert beside me.
Speaker 6: Man, it's gonna be alright, mask. Come on, man, you're
Speaker 6: gonna be okay.
Speaker 4: Man, Fuck this ship.
Speaker 6: Man, these niggas ain't getting me the ball.
Speaker 4: These nigga won't pass the ball. Man, fuck this ship.
Speaker 4: So dream behind me and dream like MEXI with the
Speaker 4: because you do it. That ship's not professional. Don't do
Speaker 4: that ship. Stop that ship. I saidre man, fuck that ship.
Speaker 4: And I'm tired of you too. And why would I
Speaker 4: say that ship there? I shouldn't have said that, because
Speaker 4: he came in put this goddamn hands, big old hands
Speaker 4: on me in the locker room. Oh man, he slapped
Speaker 4: the ship out. Then, I said, coming from the back, man,
Speaker 4: way from the back. He slapped ship out of me
Speaker 4: so hard. I mean I thought I'm on fuller punched me.
Speaker 4: He slapped out of mens hand ship man slapped ship
Speaker 4: out of me. Man, man, that killed me.
Speaker 3: But but but but hey, but knowing you you had
Speaker 3: to do, what'd you do?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 2: You try to get you, try to get your sup together.
Speaker 3: He's like, I'm glad, I'm glad you asked.
Speaker 4: Well I got you know, I went crazy, that motherfucker.
Speaker 4: Everybody was running and scrambling that there's a lot of
Speaker 4: motherfucker scrambling. And that motherfucker when I got there and
Speaker 4: doing I was doing, went crazy.
Speaker 2: And it's only one thing like that's left.
Speaker 1: You got.
Speaker 2: I'm going to get that too, while you gotta know it.
Speaker 4: Before we was on the road, we waved mother fucking
Speaker 4: way all the way across the country. We all got there.
Speaker 4: We way over there, Seattle, Houston. Why no one ship?
Speaker 2: Oh ship?
Speaker 3: Oh my face hurts, my mouth hurt.
Speaker 2: Rudy T.
Speaker 4: What made man Rudy T man best coach? My high
Speaker 4: school coach was a good coach. Hey, shout out Rick Swain,
Speaker 4: my high school coach. He was good man. He let
Speaker 4: me he the one helped me become like the killer
Speaker 4: that you know I was, and and told me to
Speaker 4: keep shooting that motherfucker Max, keep shooting, Keep shooting. I
Speaker 4: mean and the and I mean so shout out to him.
Speaker 4: But Rudy T just because the way he built our team.
Speaker 4: But really I got to get a shout out to
Speaker 4: Don Cheney too. See Don Chaney, the black coach was
Speaker 4: there before Rudy T. See Don Cheney. If it wasn't
Speaker 4: for Don, if it wasn't for Don, I wouldn't even
Speaker 4: been in Houston. Don Cheney the one brought me there.
Speaker 4: You know, Rudy T ain't bring me to Everybody think
Speaker 4: Rudy T brought me to Houston. No, Don Cheney brought
Speaker 4: me to Houston. And shout out to Don Chaney. Love
Speaker 4: you brother for that, because he saved my career because
Speaker 4: I was on my way out there. I was over
Speaker 4: there and San Antonio. I was fighting everybody on the
Speaker 4: street and shit in San Antonio over me, and shit
Speaker 4: I was thought I was a street.
Speaker 6: Fighting and shit every time I come out the club.
Speaker 4: I got to prove myself to one of these niggas
Speaker 4: San Antonio because they want to try me, because I mean,
Speaker 4: San Antonio ain't got no sports team but that in Tea.
Speaker 4: But then they got rid of Don and then Rudy T.
Speaker 4: You know, they hired Rudy T, which is the bench coach,
Speaker 4: and shit, I was like, shit, I like Rudy T.
Speaker 2: Ship.
Speaker 6: Rudy T let me flight.
Speaker 4: So Rudy t end up being the head coach, and shit,
Speaker 4: we I mean we got along like we was like
Speaker 4: he was like my big brother or something, and Ship like,
Speaker 4: you know, we all getting fight all the damn time
Speaker 4: in the locker room and folk of games and then
Speaker 4: practice and you know, man, fuck you Rudy T. Man,
Speaker 4: fuck you match. Fuck you too.
Speaker 2: I'm like, you asked him about that right hand he took.
Speaker 4: Oh no, I was that was? That was so vicious
Speaker 4: and ugly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't even want to.
Speaker 4: I don't even like.
Speaker 2: That's the worst point of history.
Speaker 4: I ain't never seen nothing like that, and I felt,
Speaker 4: I just I wouldn't have never I couldn't never frighten
Speaker 4: myself to do that. Jack. That shit was ugly. That
Speaker 4: was the ugliest.
Speaker 7: That might be the worst one of all time because
Speaker 7: he got he got sized up by one of the
Speaker 7: strongest people in their history.
Speaker 4: Yes, man, I played with that kid too. Yeah, and
Speaker 4: you know that motherfucker was over there in Houston with us.
Speaker 4: I was like, why the hell was the chief writing
Speaker 4: this motherfucker in here the same. Yes he was, he
Speaker 4: was over there with us. They cut him, he cut
Speaker 4: him what he brought him in.
Speaker 2: Yeah he did that. That Yeah, a nightmare. It's about man.
Speaker 4: That shit was like, I don't talk about that.
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Speaker 8: Different leaders in different ways, right. So I covered the
Speaker 8: Celtics team that our friends here pop on so often
Speaker 8: it all smoke, and I thought that, you know, KG
Speaker 8: was his own kind of leader, right. Certainly, I love
Speaker 8: the leadership you showed on the teams that I covered
Speaker 8: that you played on, because you were always behind the scenes,
Speaker 8: like kind of making everyone else to go. And then
Speaker 8: of course you played with Kobe, who is a different
Speaker 8: kind of leader.
Speaker 5: Yes, as well, who's your best leader leader I've seen?
Speaker 5: I love Chris Paul, Yeah, because he's an old school
Speaker 5: leader and he's not gonna sugarcoat it. He's gonna talk
Speaker 5: a lot of ship, but ninety seven percent of that
Speaker 5: ship is the right way. It's just I think sometimes
Speaker 5: his delivery. But to answer your question, I think Chris
Speaker 5: was a great leader and led by example. Obviously had
Speaker 5: a always talked about it too, but just a great
Speaker 5: He was someone I would go to world wide.
Speaker 7: So we got some We got more, more stuff and
Speaker 7: common besides going in the stands and checking the motherfucker
Speaker 7: you both find a lot of money.
Speaker 2: You was find twenty k and suspended ten games.
Speaker 7: At the time, it was the highest fine in NBA
Speaker 7: history and second longest suspension.
Speaker 2: I got you beat by millions?
Speaker 3: What was that?
Speaker 2: What game? Twenty kids? Ten games? Goddamn you got right
Speaker 2: the math math?
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, three eighty three eighty.
Speaker 2: Motherfuckers were making that much back then.
Speaker 4: No, hell no, I ain't making for one seven. Shit,
Speaker 4: I wasn't making them. Got that real money back there? Yeah,
Speaker 4: hell now, one seven the highest I ever got paid.
Speaker 4: When I went over there and played with Julyne and
Speaker 4: them ninety eight and see out of they gave me
Speaker 4: three million. But shit, nigga fucked that all. Fuck me
Speaker 4: because me and him had to fight, and he told
Speaker 4: the motherfucking people I don't want to play with the
Speaker 4: nigga no more. So he franchised player. They had to
Speaker 4: get rid of my dog ad and then I lost
Speaker 4: so fucking much money. I had six million dollars to
Speaker 4: come to me back after that shit, and I ain't
Speaker 4: see nothing, probably by motherfucking one point seven two million
Speaker 4: dollars of that shit man, all the rest of your contract. Yes, man,
Speaker 4: I got fucked man out of that shit. So you see,
Speaker 4: it's a lot of fuckery went on. Yeah, motherfucking god,
Speaker 4: damn correct a lot of fuckery shit.
Speaker 3: Do you think the NBA does enough to protect their players?
Speaker 4: Hell?
Speaker 2: Nah, nah, man, they never have.
Speaker 4: No, That's what I'm saying, man. I mean, I already
Speaker 4: talked about it, and I'm I'm sure it's worse than
Speaker 4: you talk if you know what I mean, Because that
Speaker 4: ship is like that ship ain't like you just start saying, nigga,
Speaker 4: you growed up in the house. Listen that motherfucker use
Speaker 4: that ship and say that ship all you heard it somewhere? Yeah,
Speaker 4: look at that nigga on TV and yeah you hear
Speaker 4: that's all they say in their household. And that's what
Speaker 4: they used to and that's why I meant that, no,
Speaker 4: damn little I mean, I don't. I mean, I can't
Speaker 4: stand you talk.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 4: When I got damn daughter, she was just up there.
Speaker 4: I say, girl, you be careful. Don't you tell no
Speaker 4: motherfucker your last name Maxwell, because you look just like me.
Speaker 4: Goddamn it. And I'm sorry. Their motherfuckers looking for us.
Speaker 2: Ours coming from out of Utah. Shout out, Liz Barbecue.
Speaker 4: That's what I gotta tell this, less Barbecue. I gotta
Speaker 4: have you said with some ship. Yes, man, Yeah, I gotta,
Speaker 4: I gotta.
Speaker 2: We're gonna get them to come ca the show one time.
Speaker 6: We're gonna do that, all right, left.
Speaker 3: We gotta go to you tay to do it.
Speaker 2: H We gotta.
Speaker 6: Hey, let me tell you something, Hey, let me tell
Speaker 6: you something.
Speaker 4: Your motherfucker.
Speaker 2: I go with you and you my boy, Yeah show,
Speaker 2: I go anywhere with you three.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're gonna be right anywhere we go.
Speaker 7: We're gonna we're gonna find a way to get out
Speaker 7: of Vocans.
Speaker 2: We're gonna list some guards.
Speaker 7: Give me the first thing you think when these names
Speaker 7: and mentioned, first word come to your mind.
Speaker 9: Miss Richmond, dog Dog, Regie Miller, Shooters, Free Well Athletic
Speaker 9: Ron Harper, Slasher, Steve Smith my o G.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I said last night.
Speaker 3: Clive Drexler, right right, and they still couldn't most.
Speaker 2: All right, Yes, j R Ryder what this the other day?
Speaker 4: Brother?
Speaker 2: Brother? Yeah, yeah, brother, give me two of the most
Speaker 2: underrated players you played.
Speaker 4: Against ship, probably Rosin Petrovich. Yeah. Man, I'm trying to
Speaker 4: tell you, motherfucker, give me nightmare.
Speaker 5: Just stick with Dras and tell us a little bit
Speaker 5: about him. Yeah, six four six five.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's bigger than me, so I'm six that Yeah,
Speaker 4: and he come off type of motherfuckers shooting that. I mean,
Speaker 4: I mean just I mean, never seen nothing like before.
Speaker 4: I rather guard that mother.
Speaker 6: I rather god, motherfucker black Jesus Michael Jordan really didn't.
Speaker 4: Guard that mother. That's how bad it was for me
Speaker 4: and that motherfucker. This motherfucker used to give me buckets.
Speaker 4: I used to be so frustrated. I couldn't stop this monthsfucker.
Speaker 4: I mean, you can't get a smotherfucking in both ways.
Speaker 4: All that men, all that motherfucker. You know how the
Speaker 4: motherfuckers and your big got all that triple threash ship.
Speaker 4: He had that ship down to a call tee. Oh man,
Speaker 4: he's fucking you up with that getting me. He just
Speaker 4: killing my eyes to that. My eyes just jumping all
Speaker 4: overywhere when you do that ship to come back, try
Speaker 4: to swipe that ship just you know this nigga got
Speaker 4: me jumping all over the place. Yes, yes, you talking
Speaker 4: about that. The little guard that wanted played you had
Speaker 4: the one player to go to life. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: he was tough. He was yeah, he just but I
Speaker 4: know he was gonna go left hard. He just like
Speaker 4: them Clyde, Yeah, gonna go right, He's gonna go left.
Speaker 7: The current Rockets, what do you think of the future
Speaker 7: Jaden Green to go on Thompson Jabbar Smith and uh
Speaker 7: Thompson the Thompson Twins.
Speaker 2: What do you think the state of the Rockets right now?
Speaker 4: I like, man, I love the motherfuckers, Thetherfas. They play
Speaker 4: so hard and that's what's pushing them over and that's
Speaker 4: why they play so well.
Speaker 3: But you got a really good coach too, Yes, oh yeah,
Speaker 3: he's a he's a and I like.
Speaker 4: His spirit and I like the way he coached Theuers.
Speaker 4: Yeah he coached them like dogs.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: He feed them niggas dog food.
Speaker 2: He got that.
Speaker 4: Because their niggas they come to eat every night. They
Speaker 4: play so hard.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 4: I love the Rockets team and I like what they're
Speaker 4: building over there. Yeah, that's what I'm about.
Speaker 5: Michael Jordan said about Maxwell, something's wrong with this guy, Kenny.
Speaker 5: He fights me every day. That brings his sonwhear and air.
Speaker 5: Jordan apperil what prompted them to stay that? What's he
Speaker 5: talking about?
Speaker 2: Mike?
Speaker 4: He said, God ship right now. But no, Mike, Mike
Speaker 4: is the greatest man. Mike is the best player I
Speaker 4: ever played against, man to hands down, man, never seeing
Speaker 4: nothing like this ship.
Speaker 6: Make it work though, Hell yeah, I'm gonna make it work.
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 4: I said, that's it. But that's all I could do,
Speaker 4: just like you know, cut down in his percentage. You
Speaker 4: can't never.
Speaker 3: Stop no motherfucker like that.
Speaker 4: You gotta make it tough, you know, is man. You
Speaker 4: know you know you got to make a tougher motherfucker
Speaker 4: like that. So that's all I was trying to do.
Speaker 4: Make it tougher that motherfucker. And he was already bigger
Speaker 4: than me. Ship. I'm sixfold. I ain't never wore one
Speaker 4: hundred and fucking ninety five pounds so in my life,
Speaker 4: and my biggest weight I was one ninety four so
Speaker 4: and this motherfucker was to eighteen and six six and
Speaker 4: jumping everywhere. Every time I turn around looking at the
Speaker 4: bottom rep motherfucker shoes, motherfucker. The motherfucker don spent off
Speaker 4: me and just GoF. I ain't never see a motherfucker
Speaker 4: just spend and jump at the same time. I man,
Speaker 4: just just gone, just gone. I was like, good, ship
Speaker 4: is crazy.
Speaker 7: Man, do you do you do you have a moment?
Speaker 7: O g do you have a moment when he was
Speaker 7: playing against him and he did something when you weren't
Speaker 7: out of court, Like yeah, man, now yeah, that's what
Speaker 7: I used to do all the time.
Speaker 4: This motherfucker. I'd be like, man, I know, I just
Speaker 4: played the best fucking defense on this motherucker, and he
Speaker 4: spent on me. This one time in Houston, you know,
Speaker 4: everybody coming out there, all them bitches came out there
Speaker 4: to see Michael.
Speaker 6: Everybody you know here, they come and see Mike.
Speaker 4: And I said, yeah, this motherfucker got this nigga jersey
Speaker 4: all morning, got Max trying to quit old Max for
Speaker 4: the night, got after his mother. So this mother was
Speaker 4: spending on men. Don't ship out of me. Man. It
Speaker 4: hit me on my ass when he's running back. I
Speaker 4: grabbed that. Moment's when I went and grabbed his motherfucker. Man,
Speaker 4: keep your motherfucker you do not touch me, motherfucker. Keep
Speaker 4: your hands to your motherfucker self. But we love Mike
Speaker 4: is the best though, Shu. Yes, go coach goddamn jump
Speaker 4: man ship.
Speaker 2: Yeah, lady Box, Yeah, we gotta get it right. We
Speaker 2: gotta get it right.
Speaker 3: Coach.
Speaker 5: Pop told you no more clubs gonna have to trade you.
Speaker 5: You proceeded to go out and Pop has someone follow you.
Speaker 2: Man, we got so much in coming.
Speaker 4: Next.
Speaker 2: First, I told me no smoking, and I did it anyway.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: The next day, Pop calls Max trying to pack your ship.
Speaker 5: I'm trying to find a tree to trade you to
Speaker 5: want your ass.
Speaker 4: Well behind the hell you motherfucker get all this, God damn.
Speaker 3: Make no sense.
Speaker 4: You got eyes and.
Speaker 6: We got informed all that smoking, all that smoke, man,
Speaker 6: God damn.
Speaker 4: But yes, that ship is true. That's what I was
Speaker 4: going back to my story when I was saying by out,
Speaker 4: motherfucker was saying, like, hey man, I was fighting everybody
Speaker 4: in San Antonio. Couse, every time I turn around, he
Speaker 4: stuck as.
Speaker 6: Niggas just swarm trying me cause I play ball in
Speaker 6: NBA and I'm.
Speaker 4: I'm what I was coming. I was twenty two, young boy.
Speaker 4: I was that Damn, I'm just trying to make a living,
Speaker 4: you know, and then I ain't paying me no money.
Speaker 2: You're the only spur in the streets like that, thought, right,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: They wasn't. That's why they was just said. So I'm
Speaker 4: not goddamn this niggas is trying me. Keep trying me.
Speaker 4: So every time I walk out the club. Well, while
Speaker 4: I'm in the club, they always have a nigga you're
Speaker 4: talking about. Hey man, that nigga wanta fight you? Man,
Speaker 4: he wanta he really won't try you.
Speaker 6: I say, what do you want?
Speaker 2: What was going on?
Speaker 4: He said, the niggas swarm he wanta fight? I said, well,
Speaker 4: goddamn it, I like to fight, So telling telling lace
Speaker 4: him up. Well, if I when I walk out, and
Speaker 4: if I walk out and he walk out behind me,
Speaker 4: tell goddamn, I'm gonna get him. Yeah, I'm gonna skin him.
Speaker 4: So I said, So he said, you know, and that's
Speaker 4: what it was. And I kept fighting and fighting because
Speaker 4: you know, and then Pop, you tell me Max, you
Speaker 4: gotta stand he's goddamn clubs. You almost killed the kid
Speaker 4: last night. I said, yeah, I picked him up and
Speaker 4: slammed straight on the ship. All that fell right with him, Sam.
Speaker 4: They sat in his ship. So then it was like,
Speaker 4: you gotta stop this ship nigga. You is fucking fight
Speaker 4: like you're a street nigga. So you gotta, hey, man,
Speaker 4: do not go out no more. If you go out
Speaker 4: ever again while you're in here, you know, and I'm
Speaker 4: gonna get rid of you. But he ain't never say
Speaker 4: he's gonna put a damn p I on me. So
Speaker 4: motherfucker put a pr on me and ship. And then
Speaker 4: motherfucker called me the next day like what you just
Speaker 4: said and said that, Hey, bring your ass in here
Speaker 4: early in the morning. He said, br your ass. I
Speaker 4: got the footage this year. I say, you're fucking right, Yes,
Speaker 4: you got that right. Mean, so hey, go on home
Speaker 4: and pack your shit. By the end of the day,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna have your ass somewhere. I'm said, Okay, cool shit.
Speaker 4: I was scared the motherfucker though. I went on scared
Speaker 4: this shit. I ain't know where the fucker I was
Speaker 4: gonna go. I said, goddamn, I ain't nothing. Think I
Speaker 4: did enough for a motherfucker to even want me. I
Speaker 4: was like, what did I do any that? And then
Speaker 4: I ain't am thirteen and we got that, we twenty
Speaker 4: one and six and one and here beforek I'm like, shit,
Speaker 4: I'm fucked up in this motherfucker. Then I hope somebody
Speaker 4: picked my black ass up. So then god, damn, I
Speaker 4: started thinking, damn, who I was killing?
Speaker 2: This shit?
Speaker 4: Who I've been killing?
Speaker 3: I said, damn.
Speaker 4: And the motherfuckers called me and said, the Houston Rockets
Speaker 4: want you. I was like, oh Lord, right in the street,
Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, sent me all these motherfucker black folks.
Speaker 4: I couldn't wait. So that's when I knew I was
Speaker 4: gonna take off. So it was a blessing for me.
Speaker 7: What a lot of people don't know too. And you
Speaker 7: know this, Yes, the Spurs and the Rockets have a relationship,
Speaker 7: don't they do. The summertime they go down to Houston
Speaker 7: and play pick up the Rockets players come.
Speaker 2: It's been going on for years, the.
Speaker 7: Spurs and Rockets players during the summertime. They always connect.
Speaker 7: But it's going to that's right.
Speaker 2: Two thousand.
Speaker 4: That's right, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 3: So you just started your mental health foundation. Talk to
Speaker 3: us about that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, it's something dear in my heart, you know,
Speaker 4: it's something that I struggled with, you know, and I
Speaker 4: didn't even know that I was like a mental health
Speaker 4: case and ship.
Speaker 3: It wasn't talked about, no, it was just.
Speaker 4: It was brushed up under the rug ship when I
Speaker 4: and then you know, uh nba they dealt with me
Speaker 4: a couple of in a couple of instants like about
Speaker 4: with about mental health. But they really didn't want to
Speaker 4: dive into it. They they really didn't want to say that, nigga,
Speaker 4: you is crazy.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: They adn't want to really, you know, because we shouldn't
Speaker 4: be paying you know, you just kind of money if
Speaker 4: you if we you know, gonna die knows you as
Speaker 4: being mental health like crazy. So but nah, but I
Speaker 4: think I just think for everybody need a safe place,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean in their life and somewhere
Speaker 4: that they can call somebody and if they need to
Speaker 4: or and it's nothing to be ashamed of or you know,
Speaker 4: back in the day, because I was scared to tell
Speaker 4: them niggas when I was playing with the Rockets and
Speaker 4: San Antonio and shit like, I got issues, niggas. I struggle.
Speaker 4: I struggle still today. I struggle. I struggle, but I
Speaker 4: got issues. I got waves that I know how to
Speaker 4: deal with it. And you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: But I mean it's I mean, it's a blessing that
Speaker 6: I identified myself and.
Speaker 3: I know that I have the hard part.
Speaker 6: Yes, that's right, gotta be real with yourself, that's right.
Speaker 4: But now, man, but I tell everybody, man, if you
Speaker 4: if you feel like you need to talk to somebody,
Speaker 4: man call some motherfucking back.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Man, fuck that ain't nobody when when you're gone, you gone.
Speaker 4: Ain't a mother fucking movie. You're gonna be back the
Speaker 4: next day, motherfucker for real. So man, take care of yourself.
Speaker 4: Your mental is everything.
Speaker 3: Your favorite teammate man, all the.
Speaker 4: Motherfuckers, I say, I can't say one because all these
Speaker 4: motherfucker be mad the mother all the motherfuckers. Love all
Speaker 4: your niggas.
Speaker 7: You got your own relationship with all of you. Know
Speaker 7: when I when I asked Kenny about your Kenny light up.
Speaker 4: Yeah that's my guy, man, no doubt. Yeah I say that, motherfucker. Well,
Speaker 4: I was fighting two fights out that motherfucker because Ken,
Speaker 4: I ain't gonna do nothing. You know, Kennick straight just
Speaker 4: like what he was.
Speaker 6: I told him that you're gonna be a great commentator,
Speaker 6: and he is.
Speaker 4: I knew it. I knew it. I knew he was.
Speaker 4: But I love Kenny.
Speaker 2: That's my guy.
Speaker 7: With with with all that's going on with the game
Speaker 7: is today, right, what do you feel that the game
Speaker 7: needs to add and take away?
Speaker 4: Take away this ship right here going up to that
Speaker 4: fucking damn board and trying to man back when we
Speaker 4: play it, we don't referees then make all the time
Speaker 4: the right places. That's what made the game to wait
Speaker 4: it was and the way it was back then. Yeah,
Speaker 4: let that ship stay like that. Stop going up that
Speaker 4: instant replace all the time. That's fucking slows up the
Speaker 4: flow and slows up the game. Man, call what you
Speaker 4: fucking see Like when we played, they weren't doing that ship. Yeah, peoples,
Speaker 4: gotta deal with it, everybody, Yeah, everybody deal with it.
Speaker 4: Come on, man, that's where the game has been. That's
Speaker 4: what the game was made. We played just like that,
Speaker 4: not to get every fucking call right.
Speaker 3: It took this thing and still get it wrong.
Speaker 2: Get it wrong.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. Yeah, Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: But yeah, that part. But and then that's what I
Speaker 4: wanted to take away. But and what's the other question?
Speaker 3: You said?
Speaker 4: Do what now? Add the fucking mid range?
Speaker 2: That's kind of lost, James, Yeah, mid that mid range?
Speaker 3: What was your pregame routine day of a game? Walk
Speaker 3: us through the day of a game?
Speaker 4: Man, I ain't got no goddamn man, I'm.
Speaker 2: What you doing?
Speaker 3: Routine? What you want? So shoot around at eleven?
Speaker 4: Shoot around eleven? Okay, I'm gonna get up because I'm
Speaker 4: back damn probably hungover, so I'm gonna get up. I'm
Speaker 4: gonna get my ass up and drive around that motherfucker
Speaker 4: without eating nothing. And you know, i ain't eat all
Speaker 4: that ship. And then I'm gonna, god damn go to
Speaker 4: shoot around, probably sit around and that motherfucker and probably
Speaker 4: walk through what the other team is gonna do. Then
Speaker 4: after that ship, I'll probably go get me something at Loubi's.
Speaker 2: Loubis lone Fish Lovy, So.
Speaker 4: This home for louv So go to Loubies and then
Speaker 4: I after that, i'ma smoke me in l on the
Speaker 4: way going to the rib, going to the crib, and
Speaker 4: I'll get to the crib. My wife she's gonna be
Speaker 4: having my dinner getting cooked before I leave. Not all
Speaker 4: the time, because I was such a real nigga, I
Speaker 4: really ain't cared about eating before the game. When I
Speaker 4: get up, I just be ready to go to you know,
Speaker 4: put my ship on and and take get my washed
Speaker 4: some self up and and I'll just be ready to
Speaker 4: get at somebody, you know, because I'm focused now, I
Speaker 4: don't my stomach don't be really be wanting to die.
Speaker 4: Just no food before game. I'm like, you know, I'm
Speaker 4: in I'm in some other mold, Like my mind is.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to think about this nigga now, you know.
Speaker 4: So they talk about a nigga before every game that
Speaker 4: I gotta get in front of it. I gotta stop.
Speaker 4: So that's why I be focusing on this nigga. So
Speaker 4: and uh so that's that's what I and that's why
Speaker 4: it's hard for me to eat before games. So I
Speaker 4: beat normally, I eat like I be running down on
Speaker 4: the court. I be eating a hot dog and ship.
Speaker 4: Yeah before we have before we started lafut line, I
Speaker 4: be stuffing.
Speaker 2: The hot nigga stuff in the lightheaded a little bit,
Speaker 2: got too.
Speaker 4: Gotta eat something. Yeah, you know, I ain't this ship
Speaker 4: all night because, like I told you, I ain't going
Speaker 4: to sleep. I ain't gonna sleep for no motherfucking nigga
Speaker 4: in the NBA. Only nigga ever got night sleep. The
Speaker 4: night before the game, I slept with Michael Jordan all
Speaker 4: these other niggas. Nigga, I'm gonna stay out four five
Speaker 4: o'clock in the morning. Nigga, I'm gonna see you then. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna see I ain't scared of none of you.
Speaker 4: I guarantee you. I'm ready in the rock and roll. Yeah,
Speaker 4: all you motherfucker. Michael Jordan the only motherfucker I'm gonna
Speaker 4: lay out the fuck.
Speaker 3: What time you go to bed with Mike?
Speaker 4: Oh shit, I'm gonna be in that motherfucker. Legs kicked up.
Speaker 4: Oh boy, Hey boy, they call me when I've been
Speaker 4: in Chicago talking about going out Old Last Stadium. The
Speaker 4: matter what we got, man? Wait, you know we're gonna
Speaker 4: two steps to night here now, Nigga. I got my
Speaker 4: feet kicked up. Nigga, I gotta see this, Nigga. I
Speaker 4: gotta wait to see this nigga tomorrow. This niggain't gonna
Speaker 4: embarrass me. I know this nigga embarrassed you, man, and
Speaker 4: you know he at home. Man, Oh lord boy, I
Speaker 4: know you can hear the motherfucker's upstairs. First time I wasn't,
Speaker 4: I got damn stadium and that ship was wild.
Speaker 2: Y'all.
Speaker 4: Remember yeah, when you when you first went in that
Speaker 4: stadium the month did y'all ever playing old? Y'all know
Speaker 4: y'all did right both?
Speaker 2: I did you did?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Man, you hear all that ship be going on
Speaker 4: before the game before you walk up them down steps. Yeah,
Speaker 4: had them dirty motherfuckers be just wasting ship when you're
Speaker 4: walking up them steps. And ship and man, that ships
Speaker 4: so loud that there motherfucker just like y'all you hear
Speaker 4: motherfucker stumping. I mean while you down when you're underground.
Speaker 6: You a stadium in the old Chicago stadium.
Speaker 4: That ship, Oh yeah, that ship was crazy.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: Man, what's your favorite story?
Speaker 4: Oh man, ship, I ain't gonna tell that one.
Speaker 2: I gotta tell uh, man, ship, I ain't gonna tell that.
Speaker 4: My man gonna get mad at me. I can't say that.
Speaker 2: Oh I know it is what I'm gonna tell that.
Speaker 4: Oh man, I just can't. Mike was a I have
Speaker 4: hung out Mike.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, that's the thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, open Charlotte when he was on
Speaker 4: the squad.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, that's right, that's right. I used to see you.
Speaker 4: Ship about GP is killing man. I mean, he was
Speaker 4: a glove, had great anticipation on defense. He was good
Speaker 4: at that. He nowhere your ass was gonna move and
Speaker 4: be with that ball and he and he was a
Speaker 4: thief in the night and you know that motherfucker is
Speaker 4: still good still, you know your you know, and GP
Speaker 4: had that yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, that's yeah, yeah yeah
Speaker 4: yeah yeah talking ship And but I love GP, love
Speaker 4: GP game. GP was a great ballplayer from out here
Speaker 4: in Oakland, right yeah, so yeah GP, Yeah, homage man,
Speaker 4: GP was that that's my guy. Man. Well, like you said,
Speaker 4: you even said it before we came on the show,
Speaker 4: like just walking out when when me and GP played
Speaker 4: together in Seattle, just having me and him walk out
Speaker 4: on the floor in front of you. You was like dogs, ship,
Speaker 4: I got these two dog motherfuckers. You bun your ass
Speaker 4: Locker Road. We got some niggas gonna kid. Yeah, I
Speaker 4: got two motherfucker niggas ready to kill so yeah, but
Speaker 4: GP Man was one of my favorite guys. Man, he's
Speaker 4: a he's a hell of a ball player. Man must
Speaker 4: love GP. Well, stop all that bullshit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, I love you, boy, And I'm gonna
Speaker 2: ask you this question.
Speaker 7: When the back in the days when it was Clutch
Speaker 7: City and it was toosting going on rockets back through
Speaker 7: twice now they called Tooston all those days in Houston?
Speaker 2: Do you remember those days?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 2: How was those days? He was? How how hot was
Speaker 2: Houston around that time?
Speaker 6: Well, we was like that month over that boy called
Speaker 6: that hot boys.
Speaker 4: We was hot boys, hot boys, but we was hot
Speaker 4: the motherfuckers the city was. Man, we the first championship
Speaker 4: ever and any sport we had bought back. But they
Speaker 4: said our ship really didn't count because Mike wasn't playing
Speaker 4: the ship. So y'all know what the nigga say, y'all say.
Speaker 4: They said, y'all say, I ship didn't count because Mike
Speaker 4: wasn't playing.
Speaker 2: When and played baseball, Canny say, well, nobody stopping the
Speaker 2: dream run.
Speaker 6: Time not at that time nobody was Nah, what.
Speaker 3: Did that mean to you?
Speaker 2: Though?
Speaker 3: After your journey, the ups and downs to be able
Speaker 3: to be back to back, you know.
Speaker 4: Matt, because I never thought I never ever won championship
Speaker 4: on that no level and should I never did think
Speaker 4: it was gonna happen to damn NBA two. I thought
Speaker 4: I was just gonna be and that motherfucker getting this
Speaker 4: motherfucking money, you know, I was gonna get this bread
Speaker 4: and so. But that's what I you know, but shit,
Speaker 4: and but after shit, I wanted. Man, it was. It
Speaker 4: was shocked the shit out of me. I was just
Speaker 4: glad I was able to be like out there in
Speaker 4: this shit. Yeah, yeah, you know, I ain't want to.
Speaker 6: I'd have been feeling like some shit if I had
Speaker 6: just been sitting market.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I knew I was out there and I
Speaker 4: was hitting big shots and ship and so the reason, yes, yes,
Speaker 4: And that's what that's what I felt like after that.
Speaker 4: Now I was chasing money, you know, after I won
Speaker 4: the first was chasing chasing money, and I fuck this ship.
Speaker 4: Just what motherfuckers be, Just what they grade you on,
Speaker 4: how many motherfucker chips you get? Right, So goddamn. And
Speaker 4: I don't think it's right though, because you ain't gonna
Speaker 4: tell me a motherfucker that scored fifteen thousand points and
Speaker 4: got old goddamn five thousand rebounds and in two thousand
Speaker 4: sists or whatever, three thousand sists. You mean to tell
Speaker 4: me this motherfucker career ship? Now that's bullshit. Now, I
Speaker 4: ain't gotta win no goddamn championship. Now, I don't believe that,
Speaker 4: right ship. That's what they judge guys on, but I
Speaker 4: don't think that's right.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, who's your typhire?
Speaker 4: Oh ship, They're gonna blow my high.
Speaker 3: We'll get it, We'll get in, Okay, Yeah, yeah, we'll
Speaker 3: get it back right after this.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 4: Uh, Well, you know I'm gonna put my big guy
Speaker 4: in the middle of No Lodge one.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: You know I'm gonna put Mike. You know I'm gonna
Speaker 4: put bron You know I'm gonna put uh uh uh ship.
Speaker 4: My favorite player was Doctor j Tim Duncan.
Speaker 7: Mhm Duncan dream Uh Broun Jordan's Doctor Jay Hell of Fire,
Speaker 7: Fire Hell.
Speaker 2: Max.
Speaker 3: We appreciate you, man, I'm glad you get.
Speaker 4: Oh gee, I hope that ship was good enough.
Speaker 3: Man, appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Goes back to Fellowship and now go back to Fellowship. Yeah.
Speaker 5: All Star twenty twenty five Florida Gators. Quick bullshiting man.
Speaker 5: Make sure y'all make that straight.
Speaker 2: We're gonna pull up.
Speaker 4: We gonna sign the petition, almost in tears, up this motherfucker.
Speaker 1: M hm m hmmm mm hmm