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Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, mm hmm.

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Speaker 2: What's up everybody. How y'all doing all right? Right? Right?

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Speaker 3: You got a day in the life. Yeah, this is

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Speaker 3: this is workforce.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 5: We're super blessed everybody beverage and kicking it, eating good,

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Speaker 5: talking with people, smoking a little bit, listening to Christina

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Speaker 5: yell at usation.

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Speaker 3: But man, final show of the day.

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Speaker 5: And I couldn't be more excited because I fucked you

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Speaker 5: from a distance, like I feel like we have the

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Speaker 5: same type of fire, and then like Jelanie play with

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Speaker 5: you and some of the homies play with you. So

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Speaker 5: to hear your stories it made me love you even

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Speaker 5: more so. I hope you're really here to talk to

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Speaker 5: your ship today, is all I.

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Speaker 2: Got to say. One of the real ones.

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Speaker 3: Very here here to talk your ship today. Max, Not

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Speaker 3: we can just stopped now, Matt.

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Speaker 4: No, man, Matt, That's why I'm the last mother show. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: mic a great show.

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Speaker 3: Yes, sir Man, welcome to the show, Man, Vernon Maxwell.

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Speaker 4: Appreciate your.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 4: You know I was life.

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Speaker 5: We talked a little bit off camera. You were in

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Speaker 5: a little you know, you know, you like to bike.

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Speaker 5: He was in a little accident, hurt yourself, but how

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Speaker 5: was life. Maybe you're pulling up on sixty.

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Speaker 4: Look yeah, yeah, yeah, damn give it up for that

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Speaker 4: man to be real appreciated. Man, Yeah, my old last

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Speaker 4: thing to be sixty. So I'm looking forward to it.

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Speaker 4: But I'm not. But I'm blessed man. Like you said,

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Speaker 4: I like to ride. Gotta get more off the street.

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Speaker 4: I ain't on the street as much. I'm on the

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Speaker 4: peloton now but thanks to my daughter Ariel for you know,

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Speaker 4: buying me in my peloton, so keep me off the streets.

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Speaker 4: So other than that, man, I'm you know, got my

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Speaker 4: thing going on what I do. But other than that,

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Speaker 4: I ain't doing ship man, just out here. Thanks for

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Speaker 4: having me on.

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Speaker 6: And one thing I want to tell you to motherfuckers,

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Speaker 6: why the hell it Tuck is.

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Speaker 3: So fucking.

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Speaker 2: As many times a ship?

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Speaker 4: Damn I said they care.

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Speaker 6: Everybody kept telling me, Hey, when y'all gonna get this moke?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we're gonna get max on. Yeah, okay, find

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Speaker 4: it dead this ship, We're gonna take that.

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Speaker 2: That's what. That's how.

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Speaker 5: Sometimes they say perfect time, it sounds like it's too

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Speaker 5: late that some people say, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: I saw. I don't know how long ago.

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Speaker 5: It was a couple of months ago, but it made

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Speaker 5: me spit my drink out and send it to my

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Speaker 5: group chat. When you went off on Vincent, ask you

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Speaker 5: about the motherfucker owe you some money. First she was

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Speaker 5: gonna give me past that sound of life.

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Speaker 2: But then you change.

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Speaker 3: What made you change your mind?

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Speaker 4: Because I thought about it and I was like, Ship,

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Speaker 4: I got to get this motherfucker money back.

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Speaker 6: You gotta get it back. I need that ten thousand.

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Speaker 3: Come on, man, come on man, goddamn mother.

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Speaker 4: So at the end of the day, I was like, nah,

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Speaker 4: mother forgetting my motherfucker money. Got oh man loan, Oh yeah,

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Speaker 4: call me on his knees. You know, you know, I

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Speaker 4: was really, yes, we're gonna bless the motherfucker. And then

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Speaker 4: motherfucker just highway robbed. Motherfucker then changed the number to

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Speaker 4: shut down. I supposed to get my money transferred over

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Speaker 4: into the bank. I was like, I was on goddamn fast,

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Speaker 4: spreeed our fam he ain't go I got him. I

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Speaker 4: said that the motherfucker went straight to boss man. I

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Speaker 4: ain't no borse Mon just went straight. I said, oh,

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Speaker 4: hell no, And I said, nah, you know, sometime on

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Speaker 4: this motherfucker phone. I said, yes, I have to call

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Speaker 4: him twice back to back. You know, the game on

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Speaker 4: some moll fucker. So I went on, did that? I said,

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Speaker 4: let me try to shoot again.

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Speaker 2: Ship.

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Speaker 4: Man, here's this motherfucker.

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Speaker 6: This motherfucker.

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Speaker 2: Ain't this the same?

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Speaker 4: And I said, oh, my goodness. I looked at my peoples.

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Speaker 4: I said, oh this monther fucker don got me.

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Speaker 2: He didn't.

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Speaker 1: We got to go on.

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Speaker 4: I got to get live in this ball.

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Speaker 6: But I've got to get live in this motherfucker here.

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Speaker 2: So I mean, man, I got to get live. I

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Speaker 3: I ask you, bro, come on, come on, don't do that.

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Speaker 4: Man, where you act? My nigga, I'm looking at all

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Speaker 4: the cameras.

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Speaker 3: When you're gonna find them in one of them to

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Speaker 3: get that in.

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Speaker 2: Bro, he ain't got to do all that.

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Speaker 4: I ain't got to give it ship. I take five now.

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Speaker 3: On the discount you have to work with.

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Speaker 1: To get ship.

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Speaker 2: Oh God, oh my.

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Speaker 5: God, bless god, bless you came up. You came up

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Speaker 5: in the bad boy era. Kenny Smith once said, in

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Speaker 5: the nineties you were the most feared player. Where did

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Speaker 5: that mindset and entire where you come from?

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Speaker 4: Oh man, that's I mean. Damn, I'm just still laughing.

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Speaker 4: But I'm sorry, Matt. You know, I came from my

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Speaker 4: upbringing the well, you know, I'm from shout out to Gainesville, Florida,

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Speaker 4: sugar Hill, my hood.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm from Gainesville, Florida. From every Damn right,

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Speaker 4: that's what I say. That's what That's what everybody said.

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Speaker 4: You know, Max, I mean everybody, we love you, We

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Speaker 4: invite you to all the hoods. And that's what I was.

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Speaker 4: I'm just a hood nigga, you know my type of Yeah,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And and everywhere I go,

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Speaker 4: everybody love old Max. So I feel like I touched

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Speaker 4: a lot of people so and physically already.

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Speaker 3: Used to put them balls on people.

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Speaker 2: I used to touching people with them balls.

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Speaker 3: I'd heard a couple of stories.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I put these things on you.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, the respect didn't come off just no, no, no,

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Speaker 7: can't real work, really yeah, real work some time to

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Speaker 7: really hit him off up side of ship.

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Speaker 5: Speaking of that, Jack, tell everyone how Maximus had to

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Speaker 5: whoop your ass one time.

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Speaker 2: I remember, so so this this jo I don't even

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Speaker 2: know though, so he basically they basically raised me.

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Speaker 3: We raised this young ass.

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Speaker 7: So coming up, coming up, So I'm getting the league.

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Speaker 7: You know, I'm feeling myself a little bit. But I'm

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Speaker 7: in the league now, as you should. So I went

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Speaker 7: to I went to the Hawks, and uh, you went

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Speaker 7: with the Mavericks. She was, Uh no, I was in Houston.

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Speaker 7: It was yeah, it was Houston, and I got my

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Speaker 7: family and that everybody.

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Speaker 2: I was at the crib right extra banking. So oh man,

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Speaker 2: So I probably hit a shout into himself. I said something.

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Speaker 7: I'm like, I'm bust He turned around out and what

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Speaker 7: you said to him? I said, I bust your ass

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Speaker 7: like that can't funk me and something like that. Right,

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Speaker 7: And I'm knowing he know me, but I'm not thinking

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Speaker 7: what's reply feel to be? Because he was always love

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Speaker 7: or raising me. He turned around and say, young kick

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Speaker 7: you kill you out here. I'm like, that's the first

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Speaker 7: time and the last time I backed down somebody then.

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Speaker 7: But it was it was humbling because not only did

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Speaker 7: he raise me, but he never came to me like that,

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Speaker 7: and I never came to him like that.

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Speaker 2: But that was our first account in the league. You

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Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, I would kill your ass.

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Speaker 4: We loved him.

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Speaker 2: We raised him.

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Speaker 7: Man.

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Speaker 4: He used to come in fun direct some and he's

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Speaker 4: the only young boy we really still ow that. He

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Speaker 4: played with Moses Malone, God bless him. He played with

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Speaker 4: a bunch of killers. Man with us over there and

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Speaker 4: Clyde Drexler's and ship, other guys you know, Lodger Ones

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Speaker 4: and you know Robert who is it played against some guys,

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Speaker 4: some killers over there, man so and some guys that's

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Speaker 4: off the street. Can come tell you could have played

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Speaker 4: in the league too, just so all over the world. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: but yeah, but it.

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Speaker 2: Was they raised me or they didn't brace you, bro,

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Speaker 2: they didn't judge me.

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Speaker 4: That's my guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you love me, I love you.

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Speaker 3: I love y'all for that love it ship talking? Where'd

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Speaker 3: that come from?

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Speaker 2: Going with it? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I mean my mom is telling me all the time, boy,

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Speaker 4: stop talking, So damn you you can't tell me so

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Speaker 4: much then I tell you to shut up. So yeah,

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Speaker 4: I mean I've been I've been doing that ship all

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Speaker 4: my life. And then when I compete, I don't know nothing,

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Speaker 4: you know, I'll be spitting and talking and got damn

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Speaker 4: fussing and cussing, and everybody just to say, man, God,

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Speaker 4: damn did this motherfucker ever shut up?

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Speaker 1: Man?

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Speaker 2: And how bad he get up? You didn't drop by

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Speaker 2: two three in a row?

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Speaker 4: And oh lord, it's gonna get bad, you know. I

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Speaker 4: see the young boys do all this and all this

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Speaker 4: and all that. See back in the day, we used

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Speaker 4: to do a little shake and you know, ice of

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Speaker 4: shimming and all I used to do at other ship,

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Speaker 4: kick my leg up and do up Michael Jackson dance

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Speaker 4: or some ship. You know, I can't do it right now.

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Speaker 6: I want to stand up and show you more, myris hurt.

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Speaker 6: I wouldn't got to show.

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Speaker 2: It to you.

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Speaker 4: I can't do it. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, coming up in Florida, how many sports did you play? Ship?

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Speaker 4: I played?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 6: Coming up, I played football, basketball, at baseball.

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Speaker 2: But then.

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Speaker 4: When I really got serious, I stopped playing baseball, like

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Speaker 4: after after elementary. Then I was when I was football

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Speaker 4: seriously quarterback. Yeah, I was out standing quarterback. Run oh yeah,

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Speaker 4: both yeah, yeah, yeah. I was triple threat. You know

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Speaker 4: we used to run the option back there. J. J. Watson,

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Speaker 4: J J. Watson, you know you know, so yeah I was.

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Speaker 4: I was a dual threat, and I got recruited everywhere

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Speaker 4: about for football. I won state championship. Well, no, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 4: we got to the state championship. We got our ass

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Speaker 4: beat by.

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Speaker 6: I think at least motherfuckers had been grown. I will

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Speaker 6: never ever forget that ass whipping man.

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Speaker 4: From wald Over. Where the fuck they was from Florida.

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Speaker 4: I never heard of smithersfucking place. This motherucker boys had

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Speaker 4: to be some grown ass man. Man when we out there,

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Speaker 4: we're seventeen, sixteen years old, I tell his motherfucker motherfuckers. Man,

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Speaker 4: oh man, I never never got hit the heart in

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Speaker 4: my life. When I stopped playing that ship your life was,

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Speaker 4: it stopped it. But man, this motherfuck is bad. But

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Speaker 4: I know this motherfucker's grown. But uh but I played

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Speaker 2: You know in Florida. Yeah, any pros you came against,

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Speaker 4: Football, football, Ship, Dion and all them boys, man, Michael, yeah,

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Speaker 7: You know, all us from that same era and so yeah,

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Speaker 4: Oh man, Ship motherfucker done ran me around the corner

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Speaker 1: I was like, Man, God.

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Speaker 4: Damn, I'm thinking about the ship with the motherfuckers chased

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Speaker 6: You know, from elementary school. It's like three times a week.

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Speaker 4: Need two white boys and getting the truck and chase

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Speaker 6: We had to figure out how to fuck we're gonna get.

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Speaker 4: Back, man, this is this is the sit. I'm old.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was still chasing us there, Yeah, but it

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Speaker 4: I mean when I came up, but then when I

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Speaker 5: So and uh but other than you know, that's so question,

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Speaker 2: Was thrown all around.

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Speaker 5: So I was a nine years old third grade crying,

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Speaker 5: so you know what I mean. So you're always going

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Speaker 4: Don't forget that.

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Speaker 3: So where did your for when did you have to

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Speaker 2: What was that? Or red? Did you? Did you ever

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Speaker 4: Or I was fighting my whole damn life, man, I

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Speaker 4: mean ship, I was fighting in elementary school. I mean

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Speaker 4: I had a little fucking gang.

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Speaker 2: I thought.

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Speaker 3: Gang, I thought in elementary school.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the sugar Hill Gang, my homes.

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Speaker 2: Y'all know who we are.

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Speaker 7: You know, they shout out.

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Speaker 4: They want to take back.

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Speaker 2: They can't take back what we did, Like they take

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Speaker 4: A little store up street, the little seven or eleven

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Speaker 4: go off. They're still in the hard candy and ship

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Speaker 4: and all that ship, going to school and selling it,

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Speaker 2: To trying to come up as money.

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Speaker 4: Boy, we could buy that little you know, that grocery

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Speaker 4: smoke of that damn I don't know what that ship

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Speaker 2: Then, but that was yeah, that dirt, that dirt, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 7: You graduated in eighty eight, number two all time leading

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Speaker 7: but you just had to do it illegally. Then they

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Speaker 7: bullshit is that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: See, now that's another form of racism right here we're talking.

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Speaker 3: By the way, is my song right here like that?

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Speaker 5: Hey, So before we got on camera, we obviously fellowship

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Speaker 5: that had enough smoke the custom and drink a little bit.

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Speaker 2: So these boys right now, that's racist. I felt that,

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Speaker 2: but I tell you no, it was.

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Speaker 4: It was because of simmer Fact. Okay, now, damn man,

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Speaker 4: I gotta tell the story because I want this ship to.

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Speaker 3: Be known, man, just because to tell them to school.

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Speaker 4: Okay, it's the University of Florida Gators.

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Speaker 6: When I first get there, you know, everything's cool, you know,

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Speaker 4: You know it was drug testing and ship. So I

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Speaker 4: I'm blowing and I'm blowing, I'm slarting, I'm smoking, you know,

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Speaker 4: I'm I'm doing it all and I'm drinking. You know, shit,

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Speaker 4: And then so they you know, they say, three times

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Speaker 4: go back. So this is what this mid eighties, Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 6: So and so I'm doing all this and then I'm

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Speaker 6: so I get busted on the first test.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, oh shit. So they came to me, they said,

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Speaker 4: all right, we ain't gonna we just letting you know.

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Speaker 4: You fell a drug test, all right, so watch yourself.

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Speaker 4: So house, all right? Cool?

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Speaker 6: So shit, next day week came, Shit, I failed to

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Speaker 6: damn next one.

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Speaker 3: But I'm like, goddamn, you just tested. Yes, I'm just like, goddamn,

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Speaker 3: we gonna get thirty days.

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Speaker 4: How's my name?

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Speaker 3: Come on, man?

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Speaker 4: Thank you man?

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Speaker 6: How my name stay in the motherfucking hat?

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Speaker 4: And I'm finding out these motherfuckers got my name and

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Speaker 4: something motherfuckers might name have the name and the motherfucker hat,

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Speaker 4: cause you know, we ain't got but fifteen players on

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Speaker 6: Ship burning in that motherfucker ten times. So goddamn, I'm

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Speaker 6: getting picked every fucking week.

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Speaker 4: I ain't goddamn. So you know, I didn't fucking like

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Speaker 4: they're supposed to kick me out of the tapstick. They're

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Speaker 4: So but nah, they was like now and then, so

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Speaker 4: because I'm from Gainesville, Florida, and I stayed home and

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Speaker 6: So the motherfucker was like that, So okay, so they started.

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Speaker 3: Me all back over, so so you got to research

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Speaker 4: All the way back to the Big Yell, all the

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Speaker 2: I was. I came in.

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Speaker 4: They wasn't doing nothing when I went there at that school,

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Speaker 4: they wasn't making the playoffs and they wasn't doing shit.

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Speaker 4: They wasn't making the NCAA tournament or nothing like that.

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Speaker 4: I mean, they wasn't even winning twenty games. Yeah, when

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Speaker 6: I mean, I mean, I ain't gonna talk about nobody.

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Speaker 2: So they ain't never tried to make it right, Like,

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Speaker 7: Now?

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Speaker 4: Well, God bless him, he's dead. But but that's what

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Speaker 4: That's when the NBA was calling for him. They said,

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Speaker 4: come on, Max, you ready, You're good, You're gonna go.

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Speaker 4: You know, lottery, you know, I say, god damn much.

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Speaker 4: But now my mom. She telling me, nah, baby, I

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Speaker 4: I ain't want to be around that motherfucker no more,

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Speaker 4: And God bless him. Man, I ain't I ain't really

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Speaker 6: He started like like fucking with me in practice and shit, you.

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Speaker 4: Know, and and egging me on and shit like had

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Speaker 4: When that time hit after I was a junior, I

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Speaker 4: That motherfucker was the devil. Man. I got treated like, man,

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Speaker 4: oh my goodness, man, I never I never would have

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Speaker 4: and did my mom.

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Speaker 2: Man, it was it was.

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Speaker 4: It was awful, man, it was.

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Speaker 2: It was bad.

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Speaker 4: But you know what I mean. I made it through that.

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Speaker 4: But then week before the drift, two weeks before the drift,

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Speaker 4: Back then, the phones wasn't really like that. You know,

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Speaker 4: we read the USA Today.

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Speaker 6: And then that's when I saw my damn pitching in

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Speaker 4: To day bern Maxwell failed drug test at the University

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Speaker 6: I went from damn top ten and the damn Fodier

440
00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:30,119
Speaker 6: fifty picks.

441
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:34,480
Speaker 4: Goddamn that fucked me. I lost so much it was bad.

442
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:39,000
Speaker 4: So yeah, that's why I said that was some racism ship.

443
00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:40,879
Speaker 4: And then they take my records away from me.

444
00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,359
Speaker 3: So there you go, y'all gonna make that right, Florida.

445
00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, come on, come on, and we got people being

446
00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,560
Speaker 4: dealing with y'all with that, So yeah, y'all make that right,

447
00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:51,600
Speaker 4: y'all call in.

448
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:55,680
Speaker 7: You can't you can't just raise twenty five hundreds. Come on, man,

449
00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:58,640
Speaker 7: too much, that's too much.

450
00:21:59,160 --> 00:21:59,680
Speaker 3: I was already on.

451
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:07,680
Speaker 5: That's right, my god, rookie year, worst year in Spurs history,

452
00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:08,840
Speaker 5: only twenty one wins.

453
00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:10,360
Speaker 2: So how was I mean? You you won?

454
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,280
Speaker 3: So how was it coming into the NBA your first year?

455
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:14,120
Speaker 2: Man?

456
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:15,240
Speaker 4: It was crazy?

457
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:15,440
Speaker 2: Man?

458
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 4: I was swaying with Alvon Robinson?

459
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:18,399
Speaker 3: Man and what was he like?

460
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:28,320
Speaker 4: What a killer crazy motherfucker, motherfucking dog My good, yes, man,

461
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:33,240
Speaker 4: don't yeah, alamodes.

462
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,679
Speaker 2: Because arena so yeah, they got to have the curtains.

463
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,280
Speaker 2: Oh so I don't look even if the arena soul out,

464
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 2: it looked like nobody in there.

465
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,880
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I hated that, but yeah, man, Alvan Robinson

466
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,720
Speaker 4: was the killer man. And he's the first guy seen

467
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:54,880
Speaker 4: ever get a quadruple double ten rebounds, ten points, ten assists,

468
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,680
Speaker 4: ten steals. I ain't never seen that, and I seen

469
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:00,720
Speaker 4: it in the NBA and he was doing that on

470
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 4: the regular. So him, but it wasn't me because we

471
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 4: went twenty one and sixty one.

472
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 3: I mean ship. Jack Robinson was on the team. Robinson

473
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 3: on that team.

474
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 4: Yes, his asses on that team.

475
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 2: He was on that team.

476
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 4: Ship, Willie Anderson was on that team, all that, all

477
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 4: the asses on that team.

478
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 2: Ship.

479
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 6: We went twenty one and sixty one. But Ship I

480
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,720
Speaker 6: started thirteen point six.

481
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 4: You know, that year we're losing as telling, but hey, man,

482
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 4: fuck it, I felt like I had a good guy.

483
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 2: Damn yeah, because and.

484
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:43,120
Speaker 4: We went twenty one and sixty one Ship but no man.

485
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:48,120
Speaker 4: Then the next year that's when everything went downhill over there.

486
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,960
Speaker 4: That's how I got to Houston. Yeah, you know so,

487
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 4: but y'all probably was gonna ask me.

488
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 5: That getting a chance to play with David Robinson and

489
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,920
Speaker 5: keem Elijah one comparing contrast and then what kind of

490
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:01,200
Speaker 5: fun with the playing with both them.

491
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:06,880
Speaker 4: David quiet guy, you know, just come to do his business,

492
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 4: work hard, you know, don't talk a lot, go home.

493
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,479
Speaker 4: Great teammate, great, you know, I mean, just I mean,

494
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 4: great individual man, just god fearing man, you know, good

495
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 4: family man. You know. Just that's David. Yeah, large one.

496
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,200
Speaker 4: First couple of years when I was there in Houston,

497
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 4: you know, he's you know, and when he before he

498
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,680
Speaker 4: became Muslim. You know, he was kind of you know,

499
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 4: it was different. But then once he became the way,

500
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 4: he went Muslim and he got his life in order,

501
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 4: you know, with with with the ally. And that's when

502
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 4: I knew we were going within US championship because really

503
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:58,920
Speaker 4: he got just that much better man, man, just that

504
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 4: much better. He stopped doing everything he used to do

505
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 4: so and but he got just that much better man.

506
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,639
Speaker 4: He was a killer man. I mean I never ever

507
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 4: seen nothing like this, a big man. He went on

508
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 4: a tear for about about four five years, I think,

509
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 4: just went on a straight tear.

510
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 6: Nobody couldn't stop it. I'm sure everybody's seen it.

511
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 4: Looking at me like shit, like huh like yeah, huh,

512
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 4: y'all shit, y'all saw it.

513
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 2: Yeah shit.

514
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 4: So I mean, yeah, he went on a straight tear. Yeah.

515
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 5: Ninety four the chem Olaja one was the VP season.

516
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 5: He killed twenty seven eleven four four in a block

517
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 5: and a half. But you also got uh in some

518
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 5: trouble that year. Did you get some trouble ninety four?

519
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 2: Yeah?

520
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,360
Speaker 3: You have to sit down for a minute. Oh yeah,

521
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:51,959
Speaker 3: what happened?

522
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:58,120
Speaker 4: That's when I see there some of my shit.

523
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:00,639
Speaker 6: I slapped the shit out of a small fucker and

524
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,400
Speaker 6: white boy over there in Portland.

525
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:04,160
Speaker 3: In the game.

526
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,880
Speaker 4: Uh yes, during the game the stands.

527
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 3: So what I've seen it, but heard that guy.

528
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 6: You know, I shouldn't have ever been playing. But see

529
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 6: when I you know, I'm so real.

530
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:21,160
Speaker 4: I'm like, I couldn't sit and mourn, you know, out

531
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 4: and just mourn.

532
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 2: And I had to be doing.

533
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 4: Something more than what what happened, like my daughter's still

534
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 4: born death. So yeah, so I couldn't. I couldn't sit

535
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:34,119
Speaker 4: and just you know, I buried my daughter and uh

536
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,879
Speaker 4: so I couldn't. I couldn't sit there and do that.

537
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,440
Speaker 4: So I said, damn, I'm gonna get back on the

538
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 4: floor and I'm gonna play, you know, because now just

539
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 4: two and a half hours, well, I don't even think

540
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 4: about that, you know what I mean. And that's where

541
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 4: that's where my head was so and that's and that's

542
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 4: what I was trying to do. And ship and I

543
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 4: get to Portland where these racist motherfuckers at, and I

544
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 4: mean just literally just started, you know, and everybody knew,

545
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:07,479
Speaker 4: you know, my daughter, and I mean night he had

546
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 4: even put it on my shoes, and man, man, fuck

547
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 4: that Amber, fuck her.

548
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 2: Oh you had to do.

549
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 4: My daughter name, that was my daughter. And I'm telling you,

550
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 4: and this is the crazy thing about the whole situation.

551
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 4: I'm telling the security guard right here, black man, I'm

552
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 4: telling him, I'm just like, man, ain't a lot of

553
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 4: your niggas in here, so you know in Portland, ain't

554
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,439
Speaker 4: a lot of y'all being in the game. Can't even

555
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,880
Speaker 4: afford to coming this mork. So i'body shit, I'm telling

556
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,199
Speaker 4: you many man, you gotta go get that handle a man,

557
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 4: gow handling. Tell it, man, what are you talking about?

558
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 2: Handle it right?

559
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 4: And I'm telling Kenny Smith, Kenny Smith sitting right here

560
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 4: with me, Tim Brow, my boy, sitting right here with me,

561
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,239
Speaker 4: right here, they sitting me, and I'm I'm down there

562
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 4: towards the end, and so Rudy T here this shit.

563
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,400
Speaker 4: Rudy t came down and told me, hey, man, get

564
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 4: your ash in the game, get your fucking ahead in

565
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 4: the game. Fuck him. I said, Man, do you hear

566
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 4: what the fuck he's saying?

567
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 2: Man?

568
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 4: I said, who the tea? Fuck you too, And I

569
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 4: went on walked in the game. But still while I

570
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 4: went in the game, I was looking up here at

571
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 4: this smallfucker because he steadily egging at me. He's steady

572
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 4: fucking with me, so I'm looking at him. I ain't

573
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,360
Speaker 4: in the game, so shit about a minute with the teeth,

574
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 4: b I ain't your ass out here, man, go sit

575
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 4: your ass down there and get there, and somebody put

576
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,679
Speaker 4: somebody else in. And that's when I was like, Okay,

577
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 4: that's what I wanted. The ship was premeditated. This what

578
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 4: I wanted, and sown ass. I sat down and I

579
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 4: wish I could get up. So I like to do

580
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 4: my I like to act that ship, but I can't

581
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 4: do it there because I got the well.

582
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 2: I know.

583
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 4: But that's when I jumped up out my seat and

584
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 4: the skirty guard was right behind me and I hit

585
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 4: his eyes. I hit him on the fall and I

586
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 4: knocked him probably over there where you asked, sweet I

587
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 4: knocked whale wall.

588
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 3: And nobody was stopping you.

589
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 4: Nobody, no, no, sir, everybody got the it's like the

590
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 4: Red Sea part of it's like everybody. I just and

591
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 4: I and all I can see is him. I was

592
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 4: walking and I just walked. I ain't run, I didn't try.

593
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 4: I walked about eight rolls up and then I just

594
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 4: looked at him and I knocked Ship out of him

595
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 4: and then walked back down and walked back down and

596
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 4: then sat down, and it was like police came and

597
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 4: got me, saying come on. I was like, Ship, I'm

598
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 4: used to this.

599
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 2: I'm used to this.

600
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 4: But my whole thing is like Ship, you know, have

601
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 4: you ever told that?

602
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 3: Have you ever told that full story? Have you told

603
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 3: that full story?

604
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 7: Oh?

605
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I told That's what God bless him. That's

606
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 4: what I told David Stern.

607
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:54,959
Speaker 5: But he seemed like he didn't want to understand when

608
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 5: I was what I'm saying that the fans, the media,

609
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 5: but they try to paint you as you're just going

610
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 5: in the stands and trying.

611
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 4: To see you know, back then, it wasn't all them

612
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 4: cameras and back then like now, see how somebody would

613
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 4: have got that.

614
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 6: But you know, I mean, it wasn't nothing.

615
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 4: It wasn't nobody.

616
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, right.

617
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 4: See what I'm saying.

618
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 5: But as you know, he was saying, and there's been

619
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 5: an issue in the League of late and obviously it

620
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 5: happened back then. Were fans just think they can say, yeah, man,

621
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 5: you're gonna go, We're gonna.

622
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 2: Go up there and hear them mother they get out

623
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 2: of the leave that leave.

624
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 4: That careful you're talking to Yeah, that's right, watching damnselfs.

625
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 2: Y'all see how I was raised by the best. All right,

626
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 2: y'all took care of pulling round one though three one?

627
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 2: How was that series was a dream? Just like that?

628
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 4: Well yeah, well dreaming? Well yeah, then you know what

629
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 4: I mean, love you Clyde. You know Clyde hell of

630
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 4: a guy, but I know he was just gonna put

631
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 4: the head down and go right. Yeah, every so y'all

632
00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 4: gonna lock that up. Yeah, but yeah, it was easy series,

633
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 4: easy series.

634
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, y'all. Y'all were successful against them the sea.

635
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, they couldn't beat us. Yeah yeah with

636
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 4: a big apron, not with duckworth. Yeah yeah, no disrespect, yes,

637
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 4: yeah that's right.

638
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 7: Y'all got photash, y'all got second round. Y'all got fots

639
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 7: that defend the Western confage. You dropped the first two

640
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 7: games at home and normally when you lose to a

641
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 7: home and the men, the series is basically yeah, you

642
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 7: know what I'm saying, But y'all find a way game

643
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 7: three on the road, and you dropped thirty four.

644
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 2: What do you remember about this series?

645
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 4: Well, yes, sir, yeah, crush two games. We were up

646
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 4: like eighteen in both games. Man, we're up eighteen in

647
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 4: both games. Charles Bockley, Kevin Johnson, Johnson and Marley and

648
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 4: all the boy they came back and they beat us

649
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 4: both games. And so before we even get on the

650
00:31:56,560 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 4: plane to go after Phoenix, they had all already in

651
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 4: the paper choke City. They were calling us.

652
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 6: I think we were number one. Yeah, we was number one,

653
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 6: but they called us choke city.

654
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 4: So because we have home but yeah, we had home

655
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 4: court all the way through, that's right, that's what they

656
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 4: So they called us choke City before we even got

657
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 4: on the plane. I was in the paper the next

658
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 4: day because we're down oh too, lost to eighteen point leads.

659
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 4: So and I was like, we was going out there.

660
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 4: A lot of guys on the plane like shit, man,

661
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 4: I shoot this ship about you know, I'm going on

662
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 4: sleep this ship about over. You know that ship it

663
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 4: ain't never been really done. My fuckers come down, oh too,

664
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 4: you know, And you don't lost home court advantage, you

665
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 4: don't lost both games at home? Come on, man, I was,

666
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 4: you know, but my crazy ass, you know, I don't

667
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 4: I'm go down shooting. Yeah, that's what I was like,

668
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 4: fuck it and Dream right like, he ain't give a

669
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 4: fuck either. He thought it was old with too so Ship.

670
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 4: I just went out there the first half.

671
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 6: I tried shit, I had two points in the first half.

672
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 4: Ship. In the second half, that's when I went out

673
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 4: there and got thirty two.

674
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 2: You know.

675
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 4: That's when I went and tuck over the game and

676
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 4: won the game for us when we were down to one.

677
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 4: Then Ship, after the game, I told Dream, Okay, we're

678
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 4: back in it. Now, come on, come on, gonna do

679
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 4: what you do. Dream and Dream talk over the ship

680
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 4: and then ended up beating them three four. I mean

681
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 4: I'm in four three and so yeah, that's how we

682
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 4: won that round two.

683
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 7: I mean, after round two, y'all get to the finals

684
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 7: against Utah Westcarbage finals.

685
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, y'all wining five. Yeah.

686
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 7: What's your feelings towards you, car, I mean you're feeling

687
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 7: towards Utah has been documented.

688
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 2: You don't you don't like Utah. I don't like Utah.

689
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 2: You got so much That's why I.

690
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 6: Say, you gonna keep saying it because once again Red

691
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 6: Nick motherfucker.

692
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 2: Yeah up there.

693
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 4: I mean that's all they did was called me nigga,

694
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 4: and talk about my mama they don't even know, talk

695
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 4: about my grandma, talk about my wife, talking about my kids,

696
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,719
Speaker 4: call them nigga this, nigga that, and and then they

697
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 4: thank you. I'm supposed to say nothing, and it's just

698
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 4: it's bad in Utah. It's just it's awful. That's why

699
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 4: they number one on my hit list. When I got

700
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 4: something to say about the mother, I got something to say.

701
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 6: A boy, the I'm gonna kill y'all.

702
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 4: I'm gonna continue because that's what I said when I

703
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,959
Speaker 4: got a platform, I can kill you motherfuckers. I'm gonna

704
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:26,399
Speaker 4: kill y'all.

705
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 3: We said the same thing about him too.

706
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:28,839
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.

707
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 7: It's not like bullshit. You saw first, Yes, a guy

708
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 7: life stile. That was funny me in the jail suit

709
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 7: and the NBA that sais nothing.

710
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.

711
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 2: He was right, I know, I know.

712
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 3: That's thefore you had nice teeth too.

713
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 2: Yes, I.

714
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 4: Was mos.

715
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:08,280
Speaker 2: What was stocked him alone?

716
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 4: Like oh man man man uh stopped and dirty as

717
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 4: one of the dirtiest players in the NBA ever history.

718
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 4: His little short little mail box looking like carry ass

719
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 4: and he's dirty as hell. He's a dog. He's a demon,

720
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 4: demon for real. He was a fucking just don't look

721
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 4: like that, but he was nastiest. Yeah he's dirty dog

722
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 4: me too, I love yeah, yeah yeah him And and

723
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 4: then don't believe that motherfucker do this here too, dirty

724
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 4: mother too.

725
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 2: Mother.

726
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,879
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, get that ship out and knock that sent

727
00:35:56,320 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 4: y'all see, okay, my mother Honty got out. And there

728
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 4: you got this big old motherfucker, wild ass country white mother.

729
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 2: Yes.

730
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 4: And then you got country boy ass fucker driving eighteen

731
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 4: wheeler up the rig on the eighteen wheeler down in

732
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 4: the goddamn stadium. Who's doing this? I mean what you

733
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 4: got this? I got that. This motherfuck got an eighteen

734
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 4: the rig, the whole the on the front end of

735
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 4: the truck, right down to the game. That's what he

736
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 4: drives to the game us this ship. But I love.

737
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 2: The game.

738
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 6: I love I love Carmelone. Don't get a confused I do.

739
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 2: That's my guy.

740
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,280
Speaker 4: We had the same I love Carmeloan, but that motherfucker

741
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 4: was different. Now, you goddamn rigg eighteen was rigged.

742
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 7: Y you be for YouTube. I want to read you

743
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 7: a tweet that you said. I hope everyone had good

744
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 7: MLK there yesterday. I wondered, I wondered to stay the

745
00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 7: Utah celebrated.

746
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 2: They even know who he is?

747
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:07,280
Speaker 3: That was recent?

748
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes they don't.

749
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 2: They they don't they know? Oh my goodness, bro.

750
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 4: Y'all it could be all the fun that.

751
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:26,839
Speaker 2: Max, That is what we needed. Max.

752
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 5: I can't wait to ask you about the Seattle locker

753
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 5: room and all get there were on the way we.

754
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:34,479
Speaker 2: Are, the way we actually were there.

755
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 7: Jolney was there with you talk about Seattle and Paul Westball,

756
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 7: your teammate Jo Line is here the spear chuckers.

757
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 2: Do you know what spirit chupers? Yeah? I remember speaking again?

758
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:52,280
Speaker 2: Who speech?

759
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 1: Remember that?

760
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:53,399
Speaker 2: Yeah?

761
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 4: Tell remember in the Jungles, Yeah said that Paul Westball.

762
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's trying to motivate him like a fo for.

763
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 4: Me.

764
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 2: And here the only one that reacts like he was

765
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 2: biting these mails.

766
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:14,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, JV.

767
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 2: That's all JV do.

768
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 4: Yeah.

769
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 2: And Ben was just like looking just.

770
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,399
Speaker 4: And I was like, uh, what did he just say?

771
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 2: That motherfucker?

772
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 3: She was like.

773
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 2: Hold on, this motherfucker just called her spirit.

774
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 1: That's he remember.

775
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 2: He was like, don't worry, Aboudy, I'm having out here

776
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 2: in a couple of weeks. A couple of weeks later,

777
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 2: he was gone, Yeah, he was gone. He was on bullshit.

778
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 2: You can't try.

779
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 7: You can't try to motivate a room for the black

780
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 7: athe in the jungles.

781
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 4: And ship spears and hunting and ship and motherfucker had

782
00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 4: me all up the way. I was like, it's crazy, man, checks.

783
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 2: He he was different. How did you take that?

784
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 4: I just I didn't like what he said. That's why

785
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 4: I was looking at my people like, just, I mean,

786
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 4: I really want this small fucker man go ahead with

787
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 4: all that Westmall. We ain't gonna do that now, should

788
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 4: I said, like that going with that, we ain't gonna

789
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 4: do all that now. Ship, we get your ass jumped

790
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 4: on if we'll get his ass jumped off ship.

791
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 7: Hey, we we all, we all made mistakes. But I

792
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 7: heard you made a mistake and accidentally hit Hardest Grint

793
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 7: over the head with a dumb bell, trying to trying

794
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,240
Speaker 7: to both saying.

795
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 2: Shoulder so that ain't so give us the true story.

796
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 4: I was trying to hit get GP, Yeah, get GP

797
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 4: upside this month for the head with a dumb hell.

798
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, it hit hards my boy, that's my boy and

799
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 6: put him out two weeks.

800
00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was my fault, not to show that. That

801
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,760
Speaker 4: was my fis.

802
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 2: Rotated cup.

803
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:10,240
Speaker 4: Yeah that's my boy. Yeah, don't have them young niggas

804
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 4: come after me.

805
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,800
Speaker 3: So he was trying to get the GP. Happened g P?

806
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 2: Did you know some you know GP really the same nigga?

807
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, j did. He jumped on my my young boy.

808
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 4: I hit my young boy for no reason and bust

809
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 4: my man stuff my mom.

810
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 2: Who's the young boy Shaman with sham wis?

811
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 4: I like you man, all he's gonna do is work.

812
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 4: Jim Rat staying in gym on the work. And you

813
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 4: know I used to ham j Line and my guy.

814
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 2: Yeah you know whatman servant serving GP. You better know it.

815
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:48,800
Speaker 2: That's not that's not like that.

816
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 4: And I'm giving it to the white boy. I'm giving

817
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,320
Speaker 4: it to Brent Very. That's what we used to do

818
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 4: all the time, me and Shaman second team. Yeah, you

819
00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 4: better know it.

820
00:40:58,440 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

821
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, to put me in the lineup, I told you

822
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 4: we ain't paying me, lun you paid this mother, You

823
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 4: paid me three.

824
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:05,879
Speaker 6: You get this motherfucker six.

825
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 4: Gotta start the white boy and then I come in.

826
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,280
Speaker 6: Just play me about that twenty three, twenty four minutes.

827
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,879
Speaker 4: I'll be good with that on start him letting fuck

828
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 4: that when we when you get in the when getting

829
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:19,760
Speaker 4: the pilling, just put me in. I'll run over. Motherfucker

830
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 4: go to the free throw liner man. Yeah, that's what

831
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 4: they used to do with me.

832
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 5: So is there any truth to a Keen slapping the

833
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:30,280
Speaker 5: shit out of you at halftime?

834
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: One time?

835
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 2: Ship, There's a lot.

836
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 4: Of truth to it, motherfucker, A lot of truth that shit.

837
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 4: That motherfucker like he Spiper's hands on the ground and shuck, motherfuckering.

838
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, hit me so goddamn heart wisdom, Seattle,

839
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 4: every damn thing having shadow, God, damn FUCKSU. But we

840
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 4: was in shadow was I was. I was having a

841
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 4: bad first half and Ship we was playing Gary and

842
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 4: them and Sean Kemp and all the motherfuckers. They had

843
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 4: a squad over that motherfucker. Uh double deuces, Ricky Pierce,

844
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 4: they had all they had a squad or whatever, Dannum

845
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,439
Speaker 4: barrows they have a squad. They just had a bunch

846
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 4: of motherfuckers. Can bay so Derrick m Kid. Then now

847
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 4: if I'm having a bad first half, I'm like, damn,

848
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:26,919
Speaker 4: you know how long that fucking walk is and see

849
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 4: how I'm locking. Yeah, this like motherfucker walking fucking this

850
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 4: ship around the blobber, round this damn building to come

851
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 4: back in here. I mean they're walking so long. Yeah,

852
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 4: so I'm mad. When I'm getting mad, I should spit.

853
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 4: I'm walking. I'm spitting and the niggasu Sam sitting up

854
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 4: and Robbert beside me.

855
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 6: Man, it's gonna be alright, mask. Come on, man, you're

856
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 6: gonna be okay.

857
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 4: Man, Fuck this ship.

858
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 6: Man, these niggas ain't getting me the ball.

859
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:54,879
Speaker 4: These nigga won't pass the ball. Man, fuck this ship.

860
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 4: So dream behind me and dream like MEXI with the

861
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 4: because you do it. That ship's not professional. Don't do

862
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 4: that ship. Stop that ship. I saidre man, fuck that ship.

863
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 4: And I'm tired of you too. And why would I

864
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:17,240
Speaker 4: say that ship there? I shouldn't have said that, because

865
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 4: he came in put this goddamn hands, big old hands

866
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 4: on me in the locker room. Oh man, he slapped

867
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 4: the ship out. Then, I said, coming from the back, man,

868
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 4: way from the back. He slapped ship out of me

869
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 4: so hard. I mean I thought I'm on fuller punched me.

870
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:37,399
Speaker 4: He slapped out of mens hand ship man slapped ship

871
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 4: out of me. Man, man, that killed me.

872
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 3: But but but but hey, but knowing you you had

873
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 3: to do, what'd you do?

874
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 4: Well?

875
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:47,959
Speaker 2: You try to get you, try to get your sup together.

876
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:54,359
Speaker 3: He's like, I'm glad, I'm glad you asked.

877
00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 4: Well I got you know, I went crazy, that motherfucker.

878
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 4: Everybody was running and scrambling that there's a lot of

879
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 4: motherfucker scrambling. And that motherfucker when I got there and

880
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 4: doing I was doing, went crazy.

881
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 2: And it's only one thing like that's left.

882
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 1: You got.

883
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 2: I'm going to get that too, while you gotta know it.

884
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 4: Before we was on the road, we waved mother fucking

885
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 4: way all the way across the country. We all got there.

886
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 4: We way over there, Seattle, Houston. Why no one ship?

887
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 2: Oh ship?

888
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 3: Oh my face hurts, my mouth hurt.

889
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 2: Rudy T.

890
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 4: What made man Rudy T man best coach? My high

891
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 4: school coach was a good coach. Hey, shout out Rick Swain,

892
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 4: my high school coach. He was good man. He let

893
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 4: me he the one helped me become like the killer

894
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 4: that you know I was, and and told me to

895
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 4: keep shooting that motherfucker Max, keep shooting, Keep shooting. I

896
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 4: mean and the and I mean so shout out to him.

897
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 4: But Rudy T just because the way he built our team.

898
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 4: But really I got to get a shout out to

899
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 4: Don Cheney too. See Don Chaney, the black coach was

900
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 4: there before Rudy T. See Don Cheney. If it wasn't

901
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 4: for Don, if it wasn't for Don, I wouldn't even

902
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 4: been in Houston. Don Cheney the one brought me there.

903
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 4: You know, Rudy T ain't bring me to Everybody think

904
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 4: Rudy T brought me to Houston. No, Don Cheney brought

905
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 4: me to Houston. And shout out to Don Chaney. Love

906
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 4: you brother for that, because he saved my career because

907
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 4: I was on my way out there. I was over

908
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 4: there and San Antonio. I was fighting everybody on the

909
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 4: street and shit in San Antonio over me, and shit

910
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 4: I was thought I was a street.

911
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,439
Speaker 6: Fighting and shit every time I come out the club.

912
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 4: I got to prove myself to one of these niggas

913
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 4: San Antonio because they want to try me, because I mean,

914
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 4: San Antonio ain't got no sports team but that in Tea.

915
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 4: But then they got rid of Don and then Rudy T.

916
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 4: You know, they hired Rudy T, which is the bench coach,

917
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 4: and shit, I was like, shit, I like Rudy T.

918
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 2: Ship.

919
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:07,439
Speaker 6: Rudy T let me flight.

920
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:11,760
Speaker 4: So Rudy t end up being the head coach, and shit,

921
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 4: we I mean we got along like we was like

922
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 4: he was like my big brother or something, and Ship like,

923
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 4: you know, we all getting fight all the damn time

924
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 4: in the locker room and folk of games and then

925
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 4: practice and you know, man, fuck you Rudy T. Man,

926
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,879
Speaker 4: fuck you match. Fuck you too.

927
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,439
Speaker 2: I'm like, you asked him about that right hand he took.

928
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,240
Speaker 4: Oh no, I was that was? That was so vicious

929
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:35,760
Speaker 4: and ugly.

930
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't even want to.

931
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 4: I don't even like.

932
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 2: That's the worst point of history.

933
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,800
Speaker 4: I ain't never seen nothing like that, and I felt,

934
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 4: I just I wouldn't have never I couldn't never frighten

935
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:48,320
Speaker 4: myself to do that. Jack. That shit was ugly. That

936
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 4: was the ugliest.

937
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:53,839
Speaker 7: That might be the worst one of all time because

938
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 7: he got he got sized up by one of the

939
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:57,760
Speaker 7: strongest people in their history.

940
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 4: Yes, man, I played with that kid too. Yeah, and

941
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 4: you know that motherfucker was over there in Houston with us.

942
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 4: I was like, why the hell was the chief writing

943
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 4: this motherfucker in here the same. Yes he was, he

944
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 4: was over there with us. They cut him, he cut

945
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 4: him what he brought him in.

946
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 2: Yeah he did that. That Yeah, a nightmare. It's about man.

947
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 4: That shit was like, I don't talk about that.

948
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 5: This episode that brought to you by Captain Morgan, America's

949
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 5: number one sprice rum. The legend starts when you follow

950
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 5: the captain, Right, you've been around the rink for a

951
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 5: long time. Who is the best captain or leader that

952
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 5: you've been able to witness in the NBA?

953
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 1: Uh?

954
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 8: Different leaders in different ways, right. So I covered the

955
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 8: Celtics team that our friends here pop on so often

956
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:50,919
Speaker 8: it all smoke, and I thought that, you know, KG

957
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 8: was his own kind of leader, right. Certainly, I love

958
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 8: the leadership you showed on the teams that I covered

959
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 8: that you played on, because you were always behind the scenes,

960
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 8: like kind of making everyone else to go. And then

961
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 8: of course you played with Kobe, who is a different

962
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:03,439
Speaker 8: kind of leader.

963
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,839
Speaker 5: Yes, as well, who's your best leader leader I've seen?

964
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 5: I love Chris Paul, Yeah, because he's an old school

965
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 5: leader and he's not gonna sugarcoat it. He's gonna talk

966
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 5: a lot of ship, but ninety seven percent of that

967
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 5: ship is the right way. It's just I think sometimes

968
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 5: his delivery. But to answer your question, I think Chris

969
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 5: was a great leader and led by example. Obviously had

970
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 5: a always talked about it too, but just a great

971
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 5: He was someone I would go to world wide.

972
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 7: So we got some We got more, more stuff and

973
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 7: common besides going in the stands and checking the motherfucker

974
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 7: you both find a lot of money.

975
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,439
Speaker 2: You was find twenty k and suspended ten games.

976
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,839
Speaker 7: At the time, it was the highest fine in NBA

977
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:41,320
Speaker 7: history and second longest suspension.

978
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,320
Speaker 2: I got you beat by millions?

979
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 3: What was that?

980
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 2: What game? Twenty kids? Ten games? Goddamn you got right

981
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 2: the math math?

982
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,320
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, three eighty three eighty.

983
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 2: Motherfuckers were making that much back then.

984
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:08,720
Speaker 4: No, hell no, I ain't making for one seven. Shit,

985
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 4: I wasn't making them. Got that real money back there? Yeah,

986
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 4: hell now, one seven the highest I ever got paid.

987
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 4: When I went over there and played with Julyne and

988
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 4: them ninety eight and see out of they gave me

989
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 4: three million. But shit, nigga fucked that all. Fuck me

990
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,359
Speaker 4: because me and him had to fight, and he told

991
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 4: the motherfucking people I don't want to play with the

992
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 4: nigga no more. So he franchised player. They had to

993
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 4: get rid of my dog ad and then I lost

994
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 4: so fucking much money. I had six million dollars to

995
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,319
Speaker 4: come to me back after that shit, and I ain't

996
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 4: see nothing, probably by motherfucking one point seven two million

997
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 4: dollars of that shit man, all the rest of your contract. Yes, man,

998
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 4: I got fucked man out of that shit. So you see,

999
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 4: it's a lot of fuckery went on. Yeah, motherfucking god,

1000
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 4: damn correct a lot of fuckery shit.

1001
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 3: Do you think the NBA does enough to protect their players?

1002
00:49:58,239 --> 00:49:58,479
Speaker 4: Hell?

1003
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 2: Nah, nah, man, they never have.

1004
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,280
Speaker 4: No, That's what I'm saying, man. I mean, I already

1005
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 4: talked about it, and I'm I'm sure it's worse than

1006
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 4: you talk if you know what I mean, Because that

1007
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 4: ship is like that ship ain't like you just start saying, nigga,

1008
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 4: you growed up in the house. Listen that motherfucker use

1009
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 4: that ship and say that ship all you heard it somewhere? Yeah,

1010
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 4: look at that nigga on TV and yeah you hear

1011
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 4: that's all they say in their household. And that's what

1012
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 4: they used to and that's why I meant that, no,

1013
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 4: damn little I mean, I don't. I mean, I can't

1014
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:35,399
Speaker 4: stand you talk.

1015
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 5: Man.

1016
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 4: When I got damn daughter, she was just up there.

1017
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 4: I say, girl, you be careful. Don't you tell no

1018
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 4: motherfucker your last name Maxwell, because you look just like me.

1019
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 4: Goddamn it. And I'm sorry. Their motherfuckers looking for us.

1020
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 2: Ours coming from out of Utah. Shout out, Liz Barbecue.

1021
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:59,439
Speaker 4: That's what I gotta tell this, less Barbecue. I gotta

1022
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:03,879
Speaker 4: have you said with some ship. Yes, man, Yeah, I gotta,

1023
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:04,839
Speaker 4: I gotta.

1024
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 2: We're gonna get them to come ca the show one time.

1025
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 6: We're gonna do that, all right, left.

1026
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 3: We gotta go to you tay to do it.

1027
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 2: H We gotta.

1028
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 6: Hey, let me tell you something, Hey, let me tell

1029
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:23,479
Speaker 6: you something.

1030
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 4: Your motherfucker.

1031
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:32,439
Speaker 2: I go with you and you my boy, Yeah show,

1032
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 2: I go anywhere with you three.

1033
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're gonna be right anywhere we go.

1034
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 7: We're gonna we're gonna find a way to get out

1035
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 7: of Vocans.

1036
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 2: We're gonna list some guards.

1037
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 7: Give me the first thing you think when these names

1038
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 7: and mentioned, first word come to your mind.

1039
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 9: Miss Richmond, dog Dog, Regie Miller, Shooters, Free Well Athletic

1040
00:51:56,440 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 9: Ron Harper, Slasher, Steve Smith my o G.

1041
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:07,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, I said last night.

1042
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 3: Clive Drexler, right right, and they still couldn't most.

1043
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 2: All right, Yes, j R Ryder what this the other day?

1044
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 4: Brother?

1045
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 2: Brother? Yeah, yeah, brother, give me two of the most

1046
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 2: underrated players you played.

1047
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 4: Against ship, probably Rosin Petrovich. Yeah. Man, I'm trying to

1048
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:45,800
Speaker 4: tell you, motherfucker, give me nightmare.

1049
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 5: Just stick with Dras and tell us a little bit

1050
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 5: about him. Yeah, six four six five.

1051
00:52:56,280 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's bigger than me, so I'm six that Yeah,

1052
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 4: and he come off type of motherfuckers shooting that. I mean,

1053
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 4: I mean just I mean, never seen nothing like before.

1054
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:08,879
Speaker 4: I rather guard that mother.

1055
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 6: I rather god, motherfucker black Jesus Michael Jordan really didn't.

1056
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 4: Guard that mother. That's how bad it was for me

1057
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 4: and that motherfucker. This motherfucker used to give me buckets.

1058
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 4: I used to be so frustrated. I couldn't stop this monthsfucker.

1059
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,760
Speaker 4: I mean, you can't get a smotherfucking in both ways.

1060
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 4: All that men, all that motherfucker. You know how the

1061
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 4: motherfuckers and your big got all that triple threash ship.

1062
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 4: He had that ship down to a call tee. Oh man,

1063
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 4: he's fucking you up with that getting me. He just

1064
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 4: killing my eyes to that. My eyes just jumping all

1065
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 4: overywhere when you do that ship to come back, try

1066
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 4: to swipe that ship just you know this nigga got

1067
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 4: me jumping all over the place. Yes, yes, you talking

1068
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 4: about that. The little guard that wanted played you had

1069
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 4: the one player to go to life. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1070
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 4: he was tough. He was yeah, he just but I

1071
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 4: know he was gonna go left hard. He just like

1072
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 4: them Clyde, Yeah, gonna go right, He's gonna go left.

1073
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 7: The current Rockets, what do you think of the future

1074
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 7: Jaden Green to go on Thompson Jabbar Smith and uh

1075
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 7: Thompson the Thompson Twins.

1076
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 2: What do you think the state of the Rockets right now?

1077
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 4: I like, man, I love the motherfuckers, Thetherfas. They play

1078
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:22,319
Speaker 4: so hard and that's what's pushing them over and that's

1079
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 4: why they play so well.

1080
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 3: But you got a really good coach too, Yes, oh yeah,

1081
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 3: he's a he's a and I like.

1082
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 4: His spirit and I like the way he coached Theuers.

1083
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 4: Yeah he coached them like dogs.

1084
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1085
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 4: He feed them niggas dog food.

1086
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 2: He got that.

1087
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 4: Because their niggas they come to eat every night. They

1088
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:44,959
Speaker 4: play so hard.

1089
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 2: Man.

1090
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:47,359
Speaker 4: I love the Rockets team and I like what they're

1091
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 4: building over there. Yeah, that's what I'm about.

1092
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:53,320
Speaker 5: Michael Jordan said about Maxwell, something's wrong with this guy, Kenny.

1093
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 5: He fights me every day. That brings his sonwhear and air.

1094
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 5: Jordan apperil what prompted them to stay that? What's he

1095
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 5: talking about?

1096
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 2: Mike?

1097
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:09,399
Speaker 4: He said, God ship right now. But no, Mike, Mike

1098
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:11,400
Speaker 4: is the greatest man. Mike is the best player I

1099
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 4: ever played against, man to hands down, man, never seeing

1100
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:14,919
Speaker 4: nothing like this ship.

1101
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 6: Make it work though, Hell yeah, I'm gonna make it work.

1102
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 3: I was.

1103
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 4: I said, that's it. But that's all I could do,

1104
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 4: just like you know, cut down in his percentage. You

1105
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:28,840
Speaker 4: can't never.

1106
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 3: Stop no motherfucker like that.

1107
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 4: You gotta make it tough, you know, is man. You

1108
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 4: know you know you got to make a tougher motherfucker

1109
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 4: like that. So that's all I was trying to do.

1110
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:39,360
Speaker 4: Make it tougher that motherfucker. And he was already bigger

1111
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 4: than me. Ship. I'm sixfold. I ain't never wore one

1112
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:45,319
Speaker 4: hundred and fucking ninety five pounds so in my life,

1113
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 4: and my biggest weight I was one ninety four so

1114
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 4: and this motherfucker was to eighteen and six six and

1115
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:53,800
Speaker 4: jumping everywhere. Every time I turn around looking at the

1116
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 4: bottom rep motherfucker shoes, motherfucker. The motherfucker don spent off

1117
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:02,320
Speaker 4: me and just GoF. I ain't never see a motherfucker

1118
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 4: just spend and jump at the same time. I man,

1119
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 4: just just gone, just gone. I was like, good, ship

1120
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:09,280
Speaker 4: is crazy.

1121
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 7: Man, do you do you do you have a moment?

1122
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 7: O g do you have a moment when he was

1123
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,399
Speaker 7: playing against him and he did something when you weren't

1124
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 7: out of court, Like yeah, man, now yeah, that's what

1125
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 7: I used to do all the time.

1126
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 4: This motherfucker. I'd be like, man, I know, I just

1127
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:25,840
Speaker 4: played the best fucking defense on this motherucker, and he

1128
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 4: spent on me. This one time in Houston, you know,

1129
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 4: everybody coming out there, all them bitches came out there

1130
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:32,240
Speaker 4: to see Michael.

1131
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 6: Everybody you know here, they come and see Mike.

1132
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,240
Speaker 4: And I said, yeah, this motherfucker got this nigga jersey

1133
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 4: all morning, got Max trying to quit old Max for

1134
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 4: the night, got after his mother. So this mother was

1135
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:53,840
Speaker 4: spending on men. Don't ship out of me. Man. It

1136
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 4: hit me on my ass when he's running back. I

1137
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 4: grabbed that. Moment's when I went and grabbed his motherfucker. Man,

1138
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 4: keep your motherfucker you do not touch me, motherfucker. Keep

1139
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 4: your hands to your motherfucker self. But we love Mike

1140
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:14,399
Speaker 4: is the best though, Shu. Yes, go coach goddamn jump

1141
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:14,879
Speaker 4: man ship.

1142
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, lady Box, Yeah, we gotta get it right. We

1143
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 2: gotta get it right.

1144
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 3: Coach.

1145
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 5: Pop told you no more clubs gonna have to trade you.

1146
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 5: You proceeded to go out and Pop has someone follow you.

1147
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 2: Man, we got so much in coming.

1148
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 4: Next.

1149
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 2: First, I told me no smoking, and I did it anyway.

1150
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.

1151
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 5: The next day, Pop calls Max trying to pack your ship.

1152
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 5: I'm trying to find a tree to trade you to

1153
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 5: want your ass.

1154
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 4: Well behind the hell you motherfucker get all this, God damn.

1155
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 3: Make no sense.

1156
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 4: You got eyes and.

1157
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 6: We got informed all that smoking, all that smoke, man,

1158
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 6: God damn.

1159
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 4: But yes, that ship is true. That's what I was

1160
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 4: going back to my story when I was saying by out,

1161
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 4: motherfucker was saying, like, hey man, I was fighting everybody

1162
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 4: in San Antonio. Couse, every time I turn around, he

1163
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 4: stuck as.

1164
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 6: Niggas just swarm trying me cause I play ball in

1165
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 6: NBA and I'm.

1166
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 4: I'm what I was coming. I was twenty two, young boy.

1167
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 4: I was that Damn, I'm just trying to make a living,

1168
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 4: you know, and then I ain't paying me no money.

1169
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 2: You're the only spur in the streets like that, thought, right,

1170
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:24,439
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.

1171
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 4: They wasn't. That's why they was just said. So I'm

1172
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 4: not goddamn this niggas is trying me. Keep trying me.

1173
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 4: So every time I walk out the club. Well, while

1174
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 4: I'm in the club, they always have a nigga you're

1175
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:38,160
Speaker 4: talking about. Hey man, that nigga wanta fight you? Man,

1176
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 4: he wanta he really won't try you.

1177
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 6: I say, what do you want?

1178
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 2: What was going on?

1179
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 4: He said, the niggas swarm he wanta fight? I said, well,

1180
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 4: goddamn it, I like to fight, So telling telling lace

1181
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 4: him up. Well, if I when I walk out, and

1182
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 4: if I walk out and he walk out behind me,

1183
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 4: tell goddamn, I'm gonna get him. Yeah, I'm gonna skin him.

1184
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 4: So I said, So he said, you know, and that's

1185
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 4: what it was. And I kept fighting and fighting because

1186
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 4: you know, and then Pop, you tell me Max, you

1187
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 4: gotta stand he's goddamn clubs. You almost killed the kid

1188
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 4: last night. I said, yeah, I picked him up and

1189
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 4: slammed straight on the ship. All that fell right with him, Sam.

1190
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 4: They sat in his ship. So then it was like,

1191
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:24,920
Speaker 4: you gotta stop this ship nigga. You is fucking fight

1192
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 4: like you're a street nigga. So you gotta, hey, man,

1193
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 4: do not go out no more. If you go out

1194
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 4: ever again while you're in here, you know, and I'm

1195
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 4: gonna get rid of you. But he ain't never say

1196
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 4: he's gonna put a damn p I on me. So

1197
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 4: motherfucker put a pr on me and ship. And then

1198
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 4: motherfucker called me the next day like what you just

1199
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 4: said and said that, Hey, bring your ass in here

1200
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 4: early in the morning. He said, br your ass. I

1201
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 4: got the footage this year. I say, you're fucking right, Yes,

1202
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 4: you got that right. Mean, so hey, go on home

1203
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 4: and pack your shit. By the end of the day,

1204
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 4: I'm gonna have your ass somewhere. I'm said, Okay, cool shit.

1205
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 4: I was scared the motherfucker though. I went on scared

1206
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 4: this shit. I ain't know where the fucker I was

1207
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 4: gonna go. I said, goddamn, I ain't nothing. Think I

1208
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 4: did enough for a motherfucker to even want me. I

1209
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:20,080
Speaker 4: was like, what did I do any that? And then

1210
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 4: I ain't am thirteen and we got that, we twenty

1211
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 4: one and six and one and here beforek I'm like, shit,

1212
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 4: I'm fucked up in this motherfucker. Then I hope somebody

1213
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 4: picked my black ass up. So then god, damn, I

1214
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:33,479
Speaker 4: started thinking, damn, who I was killing?

1215
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 2: This shit?

1216
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 4: Who I've been killing?

1217
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 3: I said, damn.

1218
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 4: And the motherfuckers called me and said, the Houston Rockets

1219
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 4: want you. I was like, oh Lord, right in the street,

1220
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, sent me all these motherfucker black folks.

1221
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 4: I couldn't wait. So that's when I knew I was

1222
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 4: gonna take off. So it was a blessing for me.

1223
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 7: What a lot of people don't know too. And you

1224
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 7: know this, Yes, the Spurs and the Rockets have a relationship,

1225
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:59,160
Speaker 7: don't they do. The summertime they go down to Houston

1226
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:02,440
Speaker 7: and play pick up the Rockets players come.

1227
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 2: It's been going on for years, the.

1228
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 7: Spurs and Rockets players during the summertime. They always connect.

1229
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 7: But it's going to that's right.

1230
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 2: Two thousand.

1231
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 4: That's right, that's right, that's right.

1232
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 3: So you just started your mental health foundation. Talk to

1233
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 3: us about that.

1234
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:19,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, it's something dear in my heart, you know,

1235
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 4: it's something that I struggled with, you know, and I

1236
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 4: didn't even know that I was like a mental health

1237
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 4: case and ship.

1238
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:29,440
Speaker 3: It wasn't talked about, no, it was just.

1239
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 4: It was brushed up under the rug ship when I

1240
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 4: and then you know, uh nba they dealt with me

1241
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 4: a couple of in a couple of instants like about

1242
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 4: with about mental health. But they really didn't want to

1243
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 4: dive into it. They they really didn't want to say that, nigga,

1244
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 4: you is crazy.

1245
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 5: You know.

1246
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 4: They adn't want to really, you know, because we shouldn't

1247
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 4: be paying you know, you just kind of money if

1248
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 4: you if we you know, gonna die knows you as

1249
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 4: being mental health like crazy. So but nah, but I

1250
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 4: think I just think for everybody need a safe place,

1251
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 4: you know what I mean in their life and somewhere

1252
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 4: that they can call somebody and if they need to

1253
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 4: or and it's nothing to be ashamed of or you know,

1254
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 4: back in the day, because I was scared to tell

1255
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 4: them niggas when I was playing with the Rockets and

1256
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:22,840
Speaker 4: San Antonio and shit like, I got issues, niggas. I struggle.

1257
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:28,920
Speaker 4: I struggle still today. I struggle. I struggle, but I

1258
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:31,280
Speaker 4: got issues. I got waves that I know how to

1259
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 4: deal with it. And you know what I mean.

1260
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:35,640
Speaker 6: But I mean it's I mean, it's a blessing that

1261
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:38,120
Speaker 6: I identified myself and.

1262
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 3: I know that I have the hard part.

1263
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:43,080
Speaker 6: Yes, that's right, gotta be real with yourself, that's right.

1264
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 4: But now, man, but I tell everybody, man, if you

1265
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:49,880
Speaker 4: if you feel like you need to talk to somebody,

1266
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:51,520
Speaker 4: man call some motherfucking back.

1267
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:52,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1268
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:55,439
Speaker 4: Man, fuck that ain't nobody when when you're gone, you gone.

1269
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 4: Ain't a mother fucking movie. You're gonna be back the

1270
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 4: next day, motherfucker for real. So man, take care of yourself.

1271
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:04,480
Speaker 4: Your mental is everything.

1272
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 3: Your favorite teammate man, all the.

1273
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:10,240
Speaker 4: Motherfuckers, I say, I can't say one because all these

1274
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:13,600
Speaker 4: motherfucker be mad the mother all the motherfuckers. Love all

1275
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 4: your niggas.

1276
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:18,920
Speaker 7: You got your own relationship with all of you. Know

1277
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:22,240
Speaker 7: when I when I asked Kenny about your Kenny light up.

1278
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 4: Yeah that's my guy, man, no doubt. Yeah I say that, motherfucker. Well,

1279
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:32,680
Speaker 4: I was fighting two fights out that motherfucker because Ken,

1280
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:34,560
Speaker 4: I ain't gonna do nothing. You know, Kennick straight just

1281
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:35,280
Speaker 4: like what he was.

1282
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:37,240
Speaker 6: I told him that you're gonna be a great commentator,

1283
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 6: and he is.

1284
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:41,240
Speaker 4: I knew it. I knew it. I knew he was.

1285
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:42,120
Speaker 4: But I love Kenny.

1286
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 2: That's my guy.

1287
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:46,160
Speaker 7: With with with all that's going on with the game

1288
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 7: is today, right, what do you feel that the game

1289
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 7: needs to add and take away?

1290
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:55,520
Speaker 4: Take away this ship right here going up to that

1291
01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 4: fucking damn board and trying to man back when we

1292
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 4: play it, we don't referees then make all the time

1293
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:06,120
Speaker 4: the right places. That's what made the game to wait

1294
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:09,919
Speaker 4: it was and the way it was back then. Yeah,

1295
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:13,000
Speaker 4: let that ship stay like that. Stop going up that

1296
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 4: instant replace all the time. That's fucking slows up the

1297
01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:20,520
Speaker 4: flow and slows up the game. Man, call what you

1298
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:27,919
Speaker 4: fucking see Like when we played, they weren't doing that ship. Yeah, peoples,

1299
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 4: gotta deal with it, everybody, Yeah, everybody deal with it.

1300
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:35,600
Speaker 4: Come on, man, that's where the game has been. That's

1301
01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:37,840
Speaker 4: what the game was made. We played just like that,

1302
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:40,520
Speaker 4: not to get every fucking call right.

1303
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:45,480
Speaker 3: It took this thing and still get it wrong.

1304
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:47,360
Speaker 2: Get it wrong.

1305
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:50,120
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. Yeah, Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

1306
01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:53,520
Speaker 4: But yeah, that part. But and then that's what I

1307
01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:56,360
Speaker 4: wanted to take away. But and what's the other question?

1308
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 3: You said?

1309
01:04:56,920 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 4: Do what now? Add the fucking mid range?

1310
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:09,040
Speaker 2: That's kind of lost, James, Yeah, mid that mid range?

1311
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:11,840
Speaker 3: What was your pregame routine day of a game? Walk

1312
01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:12,720
Speaker 3: us through the day of a game?

1313
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:15,480
Speaker 4: Man, I ain't got no goddamn man, I'm.

1314
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 2: What you doing?

1315
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:23,040
Speaker 3: Routine? What you want? So shoot around at eleven?

1316
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 4: Shoot around eleven? Okay, I'm gonna get up because I'm

1317
01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 4: back damn probably hungover, so I'm gonna get up. I'm

1318
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:32,720
Speaker 4: gonna get my ass up and drive around that motherfucker

1319
01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 4: without eating nothing. And you know, i ain't eat all

1320
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 4: that ship. And then I'm gonna, god damn go to

1321
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:42,600
Speaker 4: shoot around, probably sit around and that motherfucker and probably

1322
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:44,920
Speaker 4: walk through what the other team is gonna do. Then

1323
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:48,120
Speaker 4: after that ship, I'll probably go get me something at Loubi's.

1324
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:55,680
Speaker 2: Loubis lone Fish Lovy, So.

1325
01:05:57,720 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 4: This home for louv So go to Loubies and then

1326
01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:04,480
Speaker 4: I after that, i'ma smoke me in l on the

1327
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 4: way going to the rib, going to the crib, and

1328
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:10,480
Speaker 4: I'll get to the crib. My wife she's gonna be

1329
01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 4: having my dinner getting cooked before I leave. Not all

1330
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 4: the time, because I was such a real nigga, I

1331
01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:18,320
Speaker 4: really ain't cared about eating before the game. When I

1332
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:20,520
Speaker 4: get up, I just be ready to go to you know,

1333
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:23,520
Speaker 4: put my ship on and and take get my washed

1334
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:25,920
Speaker 4: some self up and and I'll just be ready to

1335
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:28,160
Speaker 4: get at somebody, you know, because I'm focused now, I

1336
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:30,920
Speaker 4: don't my stomach don't be really be wanting to die.

1337
01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:34,640
Speaker 4: Just no food before game. I'm like, you know, I'm

1338
01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:37,600
Speaker 4: in I'm in some other mold, Like my mind is.

1339
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:42,360
Speaker 4: I'm trying to think about this nigga now, you know.

1340
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:46,600
Speaker 4: So they talk about a nigga before every game that

1341
01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 4: I gotta get in front of it. I gotta stop.

1342
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:52,080
Speaker 4: So that's why I be focusing on this nigga. So

1343
01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:56,080
Speaker 4: and uh so that's that's what I and that's why

1344
01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:57,880
Speaker 4: it's hard for me to eat before games. So I

1345
01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 4: beat normally, I eat like I be running down on

1346
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:03,000
Speaker 4: the court. I be eating a hot dog and ship.

1347
01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:06,560
Speaker 4: Yeah before we have before we started lafut line, I

1348
01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:07,680
Speaker 4: be stuffing.

1349
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 2: The hot nigga stuff in the lightheaded a little bit,

1350
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 2: got too.

1351
01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:13,240
Speaker 4: Gotta eat something. Yeah, you know, I ain't this ship

1352
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:15,000
Speaker 4: all night because, like I told you, I ain't going

1353
01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:18,160
Speaker 4: to sleep. I ain't gonna sleep for no motherfucking nigga

1354
01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:21,240
Speaker 4: in the NBA. Only nigga ever got night sleep. The

1355
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:24,600
Speaker 4: night before the game, I slept with Michael Jordan all

1356
01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:27,479
Speaker 4: these other niggas. Nigga, I'm gonna stay out four five

1357
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:30,480
Speaker 4: o'clock in the morning. Nigga, I'm gonna see you then. Yeah,

1358
01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:33,840
Speaker 4: I'm gonna see I ain't scared of none of you.

1359
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:38,160
Speaker 4: I guarantee you. I'm ready in the rock and roll. Yeah,

1360
01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:42,480
Speaker 4: all you motherfucker. Michael Jordan the only motherfucker I'm gonna

1361
01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:43,120
Speaker 4: lay out the fuck.

1362
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:44,520
Speaker 3: What time you go to bed with Mike?

1363
01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 4: Oh shit, I'm gonna be in that motherfucker. Legs kicked up.

1364
01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:49,520
Speaker 4: Oh boy, Hey boy, they call me when I've been

1365
01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 4: in Chicago talking about going out Old Last Stadium. The

1366
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:55,120
Speaker 4: matter what we got, man? Wait, you know we're gonna

1367
01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:57,720
Speaker 4: two steps to night here now, Nigga. I got my

1368
01:07:57,800 --> 01:08:00,280
Speaker 4: feet kicked up. Nigga, I gotta see this, Nigga. I

1369
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:02,600
Speaker 4: gotta wait to see this nigga tomorrow. This niggain't gonna

1370
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:07,040
Speaker 4: embarrass me. I know this nigga embarrassed you, man, and

1371
01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:09,560
Speaker 4: you know he at home. Man, Oh lord boy, I

1372
01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:13,600
Speaker 4: know you can hear the motherfucker's upstairs. First time I wasn't,

1373
01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:15,680
Speaker 4: I got damn stadium and that ship was wild.

1374
01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:16,639
Speaker 2: Y'all.

1375
01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:19,240
Speaker 4: Remember yeah, when you when you first went in that

1376
01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:22,519
Speaker 4: stadium the month did y'all ever playing old? Y'all know

1377
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:23,639
Speaker 4: y'all did right both?

1378
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:24,400
Speaker 2: I did you did?

1379
01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:26,840
Speaker 4: Yeah? Man, you hear all that ship be going on

1380
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:29,559
Speaker 4: before the game before you walk up them down steps. Yeah,

1381
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:33,320
Speaker 4: had them dirty motherfuckers be just wasting ship when you're

1382
01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:36,120
Speaker 4: walking up them steps. And ship and man, that ships

1383
01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:38,840
Speaker 4: so loud that there motherfucker just like y'all you hear

1384
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:42,560
Speaker 4: motherfucker stumping. I mean while you down when you're underground.

1385
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:45,639
Speaker 6: You a stadium in the old Chicago stadium.

1386
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:49,880
Speaker 4: That ship, Oh yeah, that ship was crazy.

1387
01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:50,120
Speaker 1: Man.

1388
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:52,320
Speaker 3: Man, what's your favorite story?

1389
01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:58,639
Speaker 4: Oh man, ship, I ain't gonna tell that one.

1390
01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:07,320
Speaker 2: I gotta tell uh, man, ship, I ain't gonna tell that.

1391
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:09,680
Speaker 4: My man gonna get mad at me. I can't say that.

1392
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 2: Oh I know it is what I'm gonna tell that.

1393
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:17,680
Speaker 4: Oh man, I just can't. Mike was a I have

1394
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:19,639
Speaker 4: hung out Mike.

1395
01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:22,639
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, that's the thing.

1396
01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:27,479
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, open Charlotte when he was on

1397
01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 4: the squad.

1398
01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:32,280
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, that's right, that's right. I used to see you.

1399
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:40,560
Speaker 4: Ship about GP is killing man. I mean, he was

1400
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:46,160
Speaker 4: a glove, had great anticipation on defense. He was good

1401
01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:49,000
Speaker 4: at that. He nowhere your ass was gonna move and

1402
01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:51,519
Speaker 4: be with that ball and he and he was a

1403
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:54,280
Speaker 4: thief in the night and you know that motherfucker is

1404
01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:58,439
Speaker 4: still good still, you know your you know, and GP

1405
01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:08,080
Speaker 4: had that yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, that's yeah, yeah yeah

1406
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:12,880
Speaker 4: yeah yeah talking ship And but I love GP, love

1407
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:16,439
Speaker 4: GP game. GP was a great ballplayer from out here

1408
01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:20,840
Speaker 4: in Oakland, right yeah, so yeah GP, Yeah, homage man,

1409
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:23,759
Speaker 4: GP was that that's my guy. Man. Well, like you said,

1410
01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:26,400
Speaker 4: you even said it before we came on the show,

1411
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:29,679
Speaker 4: like just walking out when when me and GP played

1412
01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:33,320
Speaker 4: together in Seattle, just having me and him walk out

1413
01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:37,080
Speaker 4: on the floor in front of you. You was like dogs, ship,

1414
01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:41,320
Speaker 4: I got these two dog motherfuckers. You bun your ass

1415
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:44,760
Speaker 4: Locker Road. We got some niggas gonna kid. Yeah, I

1416
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:48,080
Speaker 4: got two motherfucker niggas ready to kill so yeah, but

1417
01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:51,679
Speaker 4: GP Man was one of my favorite guys. Man, he's

1418
01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:53,920
Speaker 4: a he's a hell of a ball player. Man must

1419
01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:56,280
Speaker 4: love GP. Well, stop all that bullshit.

1420
01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:00,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, I love you, boy, And I'm gonna

1421
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:01,719
Speaker 2: ask you this question.

1422
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:03,519
Speaker 7: When the back in the days when it was Clutch

1423
01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:06,800
Speaker 7: City and it was toosting going on rockets back through

1424
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:09,160
Speaker 7: twice now they called Tooston all those days in Houston?

1425
01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:10,880
Speaker 2: Do you remember those days?

1426
01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:11,160
Speaker 3: Like?

1427
01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:13,200
Speaker 2: How was those days? He was? How how hot was

1428
01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:14,200
Speaker 2: Houston around that time?

1429
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:17,280
Speaker 6: Well, we was like that month over that boy called

1430
01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:18,280
Speaker 6: that hot boys.

1431
01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:21,639
Speaker 4: We was hot boys, hot boys, but we was hot

1432
01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:25,480
Speaker 4: the motherfuckers the city was. Man, we the first championship

1433
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:31,200
Speaker 4: ever and any sport we had bought back. But they

1434
01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:33,800
Speaker 4: said our ship really didn't count because Mike wasn't playing

1435
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:36,760
Speaker 4: the ship. So y'all know what the nigga say, y'all say.

1436
01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:39,160
Speaker 4: They said, y'all say, I ship didn't count because Mike

1437
01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:39,719
Speaker 4: wasn't playing.

1438
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:42,320
Speaker 2: When and played baseball, Canny say, well, nobody stopping the

1439
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:43,000
Speaker 2: dream run.

1440
01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:46,600
Speaker 6: Time not at that time nobody was Nah, what.

1441
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:47,280
Speaker 3: Did that mean to you?

1442
01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:47,479
Speaker 2: Though?

1443
01:11:47,479 --> 01:11:49,599
Speaker 3: After your journey, the ups and downs to be able

1444
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:51,240
Speaker 3: to be back to back, you know.

1445
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 4: Matt, because I never thought I never ever won championship

1446
01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:58,400
Speaker 4: on that no level and should I never did think

1447
01:11:58,439 --> 01:12:00,800
Speaker 4: it was gonna happen to damn NBA two. I thought

1448
01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:02,439
Speaker 4: I was just gonna be and that motherfucker getting this

1449
01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:04,719
Speaker 4: motherfucking money, you know, I was gonna get this bread

1450
01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:07,519
Speaker 4: and so. But that's what I you know, but shit,

1451
01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:12,240
Speaker 4: and but after shit, I wanted. Man, it was. It

1452
01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:15,360
Speaker 4: was shocked the shit out of me. I was just

1453
01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:18,200
Speaker 4: glad I was able to be like out there in

1454
01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:20,320
Speaker 4: this shit. Yeah, yeah, you know, I ain't want to.

1455
01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:22,680
Speaker 6: I'd have been feeling like some shit if I had

1456
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:23,759
Speaker 6: just been sitting market.

1457
01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:26,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I knew I was out there and I

1458
01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:30,680
Speaker 4: was hitting big shots and ship and so the reason, yes, yes,

1459
01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:34,519
Speaker 4: And that's what that's what I felt like after that.

1460
01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:37,400
Speaker 4: Now I was chasing money, you know, after I won

1461
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:40,920
Speaker 4: the first was chasing chasing money, and I fuck this ship.

1462
01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:44,479
Speaker 4: Just what motherfuckers be, Just what they grade you on,

1463
01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:49,120
Speaker 4: how many motherfucker chips you get? Right, So goddamn. And

1464
01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:52,599
Speaker 4: I don't think it's right though, because you ain't gonna

1465
01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:56,240
Speaker 4: tell me a motherfucker that scored fifteen thousand points and

1466
01:12:56,400 --> 01:13:01,040
Speaker 4: got old goddamn five thousand rebounds and in two thousand

1467
01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:03,960
Speaker 4: sists or whatever, three thousand sists. You mean to tell

1468
01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:09,400
Speaker 4: me this motherfucker career ship? Now that's bullshit. Now, I

1469
01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:12,920
Speaker 4: ain't gotta win no goddamn championship. Now, I don't believe that,

1470
01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:16,320
Speaker 4: right ship. That's what they judge guys on, but I

1471
01:13:16,360 --> 01:13:17,320
Speaker 4: don't think that's right.

1472
01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:17,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1473
01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:20,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, who's your typhire?

1474
01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:23,360
Speaker 4: Oh ship, They're gonna blow my high.

1475
01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:28,400
Speaker 3: We'll get it, We'll get in, Okay, Yeah, yeah, we'll

1476
01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:29,280
Speaker 3: get it back right after this.

1477
01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:29,799
Speaker 2: Okay.

1478
01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:33,880
Speaker 4: Uh, Well, you know I'm gonna put my big guy

1479
01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:35,200
Speaker 4: in the middle of No Lodge one.

1480
01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:35,519
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1481
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:37,800
Speaker 4: You know I'm gonna put Mike. You know I'm gonna

1482
01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:44,080
Speaker 4: put bron You know I'm gonna put uh uh uh ship.

1483
01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:47,480
Speaker 4: My favorite player was Doctor j Tim Duncan.

1484
01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:57,639
Speaker 7: Mhm Duncan dream Uh Broun Jordan's Doctor Jay Hell of Fire,

1485
01:13:58,280 --> 01:13:59,240
Speaker 7: Fire Hell.

1486
01:14:01,280 --> 01:14:01,519
Speaker 2: Max.

1487
01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:03,320
Speaker 3: We appreciate you, man, I'm glad you get.

1488
01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:08,719
Speaker 4: Oh gee, I hope that ship was good enough.

1489
01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:10,680
Speaker 3: Man, appreciate it.

1490
01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:13,599
Speaker 2: Goes back to Fellowship and now go back to Fellowship. Yeah.

1491
01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:16,960
Speaker 5: All Star twenty twenty five Florida Gators. Quick bullshiting man.

1492
01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:18,320
Speaker 5: Make sure y'all make that straight.

1493
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:19,960
Speaker 2: We're gonna pull up.

1494
01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:23,240
Speaker 4: We gonna sign the petition, almost in tears, up this motherfucker.

1495
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:42,880
Speaker 1: M hm m hmmm mm hmm