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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: Browns on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts,

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Speaker 1: Bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: Let's do it live on a Monday. Okay, So here's

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Speaker 2: your mixed minus is wrong. So your mixed minus is

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Speaker 2: wrong because I can hear myself within.

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Speaker 3: I can hear me, you can hear you got it too?

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Speaker 2: Do you have it too?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 2: So the mixed minus is wrong either here or back.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I can us if I do that.

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Speaker 2: G Man is working it.

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Speaker 3: If I think just keep me sad. It's like, I'm

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Speaker 3: just going to.

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Speaker 2: Take this out because there's no way I can do.

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Speaker 3: You know the scene in uh in Conan the Destroyer

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Speaker 3: when he's in the room with all the glass and

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Speaker 3: it's a mirror mirror, Yeah, yeah, yeah, And it's like

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Speaker 3: if I just keep going, yes, yes, yes, yes, it'll

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Speaker 3: be like those infinite mirrors.

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Speaker 2: How old was she in that? Because she shows up

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Speaker 2: in the Wonder Years in the late eighties.

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Speaker 3: I got news for her. She was unfortunately I think

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Speaker 3: to say, only eighteen. It's a tough set to be on.

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Speaker 3: I would imagine Wilt.

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Speaker 2: Chamberlain, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Wilt Chamberlain, Arnold Schwarzenegger, both one set

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Speaker 2: andre the Oh gosh, she was there too.

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Speaker 3: He was there too.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. How old was she? Is she the

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Speaker 2: same one that's on the Wonder Years?

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Speaker 3: Do you remember the Wonder I do remember the Wonder Years.

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Speaker 3: What a great song, great opening song, great.

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Speaker 2: Joe Cocker on the opening song. There she's fifty six now,

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Speaker 2: she's just fifty six now made her film debut. Oh

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Speaker 2: my god, dude, she might not have even been eight, dude.

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Speaker 2: She made her film debut in nineteen eighty four. She

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Speaker 2: was born in nineteen sixty nine.

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Speaker 3: That sounds like fifteen. When fifteen in Conan the Destroyer. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I knew it wasn't good.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, oh no, oh god, that's brutal.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes it is. You are not wrong, sir.

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Speaker 2: Whate else is brutal? Spring spring stink, brutal stinks. Are

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Speaker 2: we good or are we still? Are we still doing

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Speaker 2: the thing?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: We're good?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're good?

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Speaker 2: Are we okay?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: And can you hear me?

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Speaker 3: Yes, can you hear us?

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Speaker 2: Now you hear me?

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Speaker 3: We can hear you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I got you, No, I got yes, We're good. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: That was brutal.

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Speaker 3: You are heard.

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Speaker 2: That was a brutal Saturday. Sunday, absolutely brutal. We had

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Speaker 2: lax Fest this weekend. We got in until one o'clock

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Speaker 2: and then the city said that's it, that's the list.

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Speaker 2: And then Sunday it had to be played on turf,

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Speaker 2: but it was just downpour throughout. I feel just sick

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Speaker 2: for the kids. Yeah, I don't know how. I really don't.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I know because my kids are in it.

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Speaker 2: But playing spring sports in this state is just borderline impossible.

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Speaker 3: It's just that's right.

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Speaker 2: There's just no way around it. It just rains all

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Speaker 2: the time. I don't know baseball. I don't know how

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Speaker 2: baseball plays at all. Lacrosse you can play in the rain.

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Speaker 2: Baseball you're not. I don't know how you ever make up,

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Speaker 2: how you ever get in games. Oh, terrible, it's terrible.

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Speaker 3: Well, one way that they decided to get in the

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Speaker 3: old pal at Walden as they said to hack with it.

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Speaker 3: You're playing, you gotta play, you gotta play now. Fortunately,

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Speaker 3: I'm pretty good and it adverse conditions, and I quickly

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Speaker 3: realized that I was I could, like I had to

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Speaker 3: take two clubs more on every shot and just take

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Speaker 3: this kind of like very well because the first swing

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Speaker 3: of the day, I had like a long sleeve shirt

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Speaker 3: of vast the raincoat because raincoats golf raincoats aren't necessarily like.

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Speaker 2: Warm, no, and they're not. Also for the most part,

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Speaker 2: they're not really truly they're not like shower proof. They're

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Speaker 2: rain proof resistant, but they're not usually they're not.

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Speaker 3: Like so I had my Browns storm gear.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you got a chance, and that's storm gear,

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Speaker 2: but I mean that normally they're not made to like

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Speaker 2: go salmon ing in Alaska now, being one of those

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Speaker 3: No, Fortunately, we were able to take advantage of the

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Speaker 3: conditions and Sims and I we won. We were up

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Speaker 3: three after eight, and everybody was so miserable the other

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Speaker 3: team and said the great package. Schneid said, we have

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Speaker 3: had enough.

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Speaker 2: First time I've ever on a on Friday, after Friday

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Speaker 2: evening we got a yeah, we're closed, yeah, because it

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Speaker 2: was like closed all weekend. First of all, there next

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Speaker 2: week like there was nothing.

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Speaker 3: There was a hole where Sims hit a putt, but

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Speaker 3: it had to go through a river of water on

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Speaker 3: the green, whereas ball just stopped in the river of water.

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Speaker 2: Look what are what are we doing?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's nowhere that he could have moved it

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Speaker 3: was ridiculus, ridiculous circustance, tortually. As I said, we won quickly,

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Speaker 3: so we've advanced and we don't have We were not

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Speaker 3: We were only out there for two and a half hours.

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Speaker 3: I will tell you that it was one of the

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Speaker 3: more satisfying showers of my career. Getting off of that

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Speaker 3: golf course and coming home and getting into a warm

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Speaker 3: shower was fantastic. I do feel like we should all

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Speaker 3: get a pair of golf shoes for doing this, because yeah,

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Speaker 3: like out of the shop, because what are we doing?

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Speaker 3: Those shoes are toast?

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Speaker 2: Tell you something else. It's also one of you and

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Speaker 2: I's long advocated work kind of amendments we'd like to

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Speaker 2: have to the work week is a certain amount of

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Speaker 2: fridays that you can take no matter what, whenever it

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Speaker 2: may appear just give like forty twenty four hours notice.

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Speaker 3: Fine by the way here, I think it just needs

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Speaker 3: to be like it can be any day the week

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Speaker 3: if you get it like for great, if it was

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Speaker 3: a good you had a good Wednesday, take it. You

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Speaker 3: take that good Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: Go live, because I don't know what you're gonna have

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Speaker 2: in a weekend. Now.

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Speaker 3: The crazy thing was Friday. I was bemoaning the weather

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Speaker 3: as we were on the air. Tailing trees are blowing,

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Speaker 3: you can't see, and somehow at Sharon.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how you did it. I don't know

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Speaker 3: It did not rain there. The roads were soaked until

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Speaker 3: you got within like a mile of it, and then

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Speaker 3: they were bone dry. It was as if there was

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Speaker 3: a halo of this sacred umbrella, this sacred land, this

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Speaker 3: absolute beautiful, beautiful place.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, ball was rolling.

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Speaker 3: It was bone right. It was great. Like of course

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Speaker 3: there were something you know, drives that would not necessarily

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Speaker 3: roll a ton, but relatively speaking to all the other

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Speaker 3: golf I've played here may as well have been bone dry.

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Speaker 3: I didn't rain there, and then I got back in

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Speaker 3: my car are and as soon as I was five

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Speaker 3: minutes away, back in rain. It made no sense.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how that happened. It's I think I

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Speaker 2: couldn't believe you. I think God's umbrella. There's the only

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Speaker 2: way to describe it. There's no other way for you to.

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Speaker 3: I think the O'Leary clan is they know what they

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Speaker 3: They've paid their their dues, They've paid the iron price

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Speaker 3: at Tanks.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I had not heard that story. I've been there

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Speaker 2: a bunch. I'd never heard unreal story.

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Speaker 3: I hope it's true. Actually hope it doesn't, doesn't It

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Speaker 3: doesn't matter either way, it's true to me.

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Speaker 2: I So the boys were so covered in mud the

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Speaker 2: two younger ones played Saturday. I didn't even know how

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Speaker 2: just completely covered. So I like tried to wrap them

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Speaker 2: He's like, wait, down to my skivvies. I'm like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: just went Now, we have warm water on the hose

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Speaker 2: It just was covered in mud. Just discussing streaming mud forever.

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Speaker 2: Then I hit them with the warm to get them

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Speaker 2: night NBC played last night, it poured all night. It

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Speaker 2: was we played at six and seven and it just

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Speaker 2: rained the whole time.

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Speaker 3: Just soaked. It's rotten.

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Speaker 2: It's awful, man. I think because winter, you know you're

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Speaker 3: Well right, you're We've gotten some real teasers, and I

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Speaker 3: think that is dren lies the problem. We've had some

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Speaker 3: real teasers this year of just beautiful days. And yes,

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Speaker 3: of course I'd rather have the beautiful days than not

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Speaker 3: have those beautiful days at all.

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Speaker 2: But the teas feel like you're out of it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you feel like, how could it possibly be this

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Speaker 3: rotten again? And then it's like let me show you.

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Speaker 3: So that part of it, I think obviously very very challenging,

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Speaker 3: very tough, like the kids match went the full distance.

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Speaker 3: He was out there for five hours.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy. His means like, it.

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Speaker 3: Wasn't even like golf. You were just like you were.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how you're holding onto the club.

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Speaker 2: How did you Obviously your no cart pass I mean

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Speaker 2: cart passes, so you're walking to everything, You're waiting to

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Speaker 2: waiting to everything. I'm surprised the course even could take

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Speaker 3: It couldn't. It was, well, you.

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Speaker 2: Guys are doing the thing later this summer. Maybe that's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're doing the whole reno. So maybe they're like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: But I don't know, I've never seen anything like No.

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Speaker 3: It was. It was crazy. So then Saturday night was

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Speaker 3: prom Oh that's right. So you couldn't have beautiful outdoor pictures,

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Speaker 3: got lovely indoor pictures. Uh. The family was very kind

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Speaker 3: and in Arden's like friend group and all of you know,

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Speaker 3: a lot of the juniors were all there and you know,

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Speaker 3: we were there, weird same place for homecoming and so

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Speaker 3: they have like a very big driveway and everything, but

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Speaker 3: obviously you can't have eighty cars, so they have huge

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Speaker 3: like grass fields. So last time for homecoming, everybody came

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Speaker 3: a dirt road of the grass road, but your dad

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Speaker 2: Yeah. It's a choice, man, It's a choice the way

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's in a room where you were not. You

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Speaker 2: G Man. How are you Sunday Sunday.

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Speaker 4: Friday living the dream Man?

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Speaker 2: I did not know that. Well, you grew up in Indiana.

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Speaker 3: Look at this. How about one more button? How about

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Speaker 2: It would take one.

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Speaker 3: More and more button, one more button, one more and

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Speaker 2: Time, What a time to be alive A senior swag Indiana.

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Speaker 4: I was born there. Yeah, there, you only lived there

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Speaker 2: Oh my god. You have a lot of memories of that.

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Speaker 2: I thought you great, Like Reggie Miller, memories that you

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Speaker 3: I said that Duncan Dutchman, No, we were talking about it.

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Speaker 3: I have.

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Speaker 4: I have young Paul George memories.

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Speaker 2: Young Paul George. God, you're young.

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Speaker 3: I could even give that starting line up, I think, Mark.

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Speaker 2: And then I'll see how close you get.

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Speaker 3: Mark Jackson, Reggie Miller, Debt Love, Shremp Dale Davis, yep,

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Speaker 2: then they later on they had our test, but that

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Speaker 3: Detlove Shremp was was a fan favorite in my house.

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Speaker 2: Makes sense. Yeah, I mean that's basically what the NBA

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Speaker 4: He's a twenty nine percent three point shooter.

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Speaker 3: He's got beautiful. I love that guy went, he's go

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's your project.

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Speaker 3: I feel like I should be the Magic's GM. I would.

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Speaker 3: I would have the Magic in there there quickly. Second

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Speaker 2: The Yeah, it just kind of comes down to that.

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Speaker 2: And you're both gonna shoot forty threes?

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Speaker 3: You can't have fifty. By the way, that was a

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Speaker 3: but the Calves did not make double digit threes.

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Speaker 3: You also can't have fifty shots between Mitchell and ty Jerome. No.

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Speaker 3: And it was a close game and they only lost.

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Speaker 2: By nine, So you know, I think it's fine.

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Speaker 3: You just won't don't want teams to get very You

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Speaker 2: You think that this Calvs team has the city by

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Speaker 2: Let's go do it. I think anybody I don't know

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Speaker 2: it feels like Boston's going to be a problem for them.

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Speaker 3: That's what's interesting about the NBA is that it very

438
00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:09,960
Speaker 3: much is as styles make the fights and matchups that

439
00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:15,200
Speaker 3: are tough. Are certain teams match up with other teams

440
00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,080
Speaker 3: better than they match up with the rest of the league. Now,

441
00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,639
Speaker 3: the Pacers, after their slow start this year, were a

442
00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,240
Speaker 3: very hot basketball team. They were the fourth best team

443
00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,160
Speaker 3: basically over the second last half of the season. What's

444
00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:26,760
Speaker 3: interesting by this one, too, is the Cabs and the

445
00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,679
Speaker 3: Pacers never really played a real regular season game. They

446
00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,040
Speaker 3: had a home and home I think in January they said,

447
00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,560
Speaker 3: where multiple guys were injured on both teams, and then

448
00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:36,960
Speaker 3: at the end they played a home and home basically

449
00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,960
Speaker 3: when the Cabs had already clinched and nobody was really trying.

450
00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:42,879
Speaker 3: So you haven't really gotten a good matchup. They just

451
00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,199
Speaker 3: have a lot of people that can hurt you and

452
00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,359
Speaker 3: a lot of people they're very solid. Now. The one

453
00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,800
Speaker 3: statistical anomaly to me in this game, and I'm curious

454
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Speaker 3: to get your take on it. Do you watch it?

455
00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,840
Speaker 2: No? No, no, no, fourth quarter because we were.

456
00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:04,320
Speaker 3: I watched this game. Tip to yep, Mobley was the

457
00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,240
Speaker 3: best player on the floor when he was on the

458
00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,399
Speaker 3: floor in this game. Okay, I felt like he was

459
00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,440
Speaker 3: nine to thirteen from the floor, two of five from

460
00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:17,760
Speaker 3: three ten boards to assist a couple of steals, scored twenty,

461
00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:19,959
Speaker 3: but his plus minus was minus twenty.

462
00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:20,960
Speaker 2: That's odd.

463
00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,600
Speaker 3: He had the worst plus minus of anybody on the Cavs.

464
00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:27,200
Speaker 3: Donovan was second minus nineteen. Donovan didn't have a good game.

465
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,400
Speaker 3: Evan Mobley had a great game. So it's just that's

466
00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,880
Speaker 3: one of the that to me was a real kind

467
00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:38,040
Speaker 3: of stunning thing that I took away from this game.

468
00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,000
Speaker 3: The other one was, and I haven't watched him in

469
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Speaker 3: a while, Miles Turner cannot.

470
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Speaker 2: Move just simply.

471
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:49,159
Speaker 3: He can't run like it looks like he's in pain.

472
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:51,639
Speaker 3: But he had a nice game. I mean, they just

473
00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,719
Speaker 3: all everybody on their team can shoot threes. They've got

474
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Speaker 3: something they did last night anyway. Halliburton, Nemhar, Nestsmith and

475
00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:03,159
Speaker 3: me Thurn, they've got crazy names. They're they're they're solid,

476
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,320
Speaker 3: and they're scrappy. Now they're not going to shoot that

477
00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:07,439
Speaker 3: from three, and the Cabs aren't going to shoot that

478
00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 3: from three. And Cabs d though, has to get better.

479
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,760
Speaker 3: They have way too many uncontested shots. I think it

480
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:14,840
Speaker 3: was one of the highest percent of uncontested shots they'd given

481
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Speaker 3: up uh this year. It's just wild to me, though,

482
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Speaker 3: this is.

483
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Speaker 2: I think if they don't, I think they'll win big.

484
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,000
Speaker 2: Was it tomorrow night? They win big? Tomorrow night and

485
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,159
Speaker 2: then you'll everything will be fine. Did you? And I

486
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 2: know this isn't a sportive choice for you, but did

487
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:35,000
Speaker 2: you see what happened in the Winnipeg Saint Louis Blues

488
00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 2: hockey game GM ended?

489
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,159
Speaker 4: This is this is the sport of choice for me.

490
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,719
Speaker 2: So yes, okay, So there's a minute not all right,

491
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,360
Speaker 2: Winnipeg's the one seed in the West, one of them

492
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 2: division winners, seven game seven. Yep, they're down two goals

493
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:50,639
Speaker 2: with about a minute and a half.

494
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 4: Minute fifty six left.

495
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,560
Speaker 2: Down two all right, down two goals with a minute

496
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Speaker 2: fifty six toys.

497
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:56,880
Speaker 3: That's over. That's good night, irene.

498
00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,440
Speaker 2: So they tie it, or they get one goal down

499
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 2: at one, six right or one? When's the point where

500
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:04,920
Speaker 2: they get it to Yeah, shortly thereafter.

501
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 4: If Mesnikov scored with like one twenty left or.

502
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 2: Something, okay, min and a half left, they're they're down.

503
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 2: They they've cut it to one, but still come on.

504
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 2: They score with three seconds left in the period, kind

505
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,680
Speaker 2: of a blue line throat at the net and let's

506
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:27,679
Speaker 2: see and it goes in. They then win in the

507
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,440
Speaker 2: second overtime. They played another thirty some minutes of hockey

508
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,200
Speaker 2: and win in the second overtime?

509
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 3: Is that one of the most it'd be like probable

510
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:37,879
Speaker 3: losses in playoff hockey history.

511
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,240
Speaker 2: It'd probably be like, I'm trying to think, like an

512
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 2: NFL team, you know, what's that game we lost.

513
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:46,879
Speaker 4: The Jets game? That's game to mind for me.

514
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:51,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, great, yeah, when you go there's no way yep.

515
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:55,160
Speaker 2: Those for Beamsy's birthday. I took him to that one. Yeah,

516
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,639
Speaker 2: but it was like, there's no way you're losing this. Yeah,

517
00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 2: and then wait what Yeah, they re covered an on

518
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 2: site kick and then they then again, what are we doing? Yep,

519
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,159
Speaker 2: let's get off the field, boys, And that's kind of

520
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 2: what this was like, like just you just never see it.

521
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:12,879
Speaker 2: It just it never happens. A couple other things. Do

522
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 2: you see the numbers for the Kentucky Derby, No, the

523
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 2: rating for this huge twenty two million at its peak

524
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,640
Speaker 2: at average seventeen point eight million.

525
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:24,399
Speaker 3: Is that one of the biggest ever?

526
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Speaker 2: I do know if it's one of the biggest derbies ever,

527
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 2: I'm guessing there was probably one in the seventies that

528
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 2: had fifty million people because there were two things on TV.

529
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 2: But that's a staggering amount of people to watch. I

530
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 2: think NBC, the network, not my thirteen year old, does

531
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,639
Speaker 2: a superb job of telling the story.

532
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's great.

533
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 2: The journalism around that, the storytelling and the interviews and

534
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 2: the stuff around the Kentucky Derby, the mix of pomp

535
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 2: and circumstance and horses and trainers and characters. They just

536
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,920
Speaker 2: set a beautiful picture for it, they really do. And

537
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:57,399
Speaker 2: how but it's very satisfying.

538
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,199
Speaker 3: How about Tarico didn't even get to call it, know,

539
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 3: so he was he.

540
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 2: Did the Today Show this morning and there was some

541
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:09,160
Speaker 2: sort of a peanut Yeah, yeah, yeah, which.

542
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 3: Is the guy who did call it did a great job.

543
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,959
Speaker 2: He did. Yeah, they were ready to go. I mean

544
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,880
Speaker 2: it was. They have so many folks that are so capable.

545
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 2: And the broadcast was awesome. The race was awesome. Those

546
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 2: two horses were the two best horses and they go

547
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 2: toe to toe down the stretch and it's everything that

548
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:25,160
Speaker 2: you want.

549
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,880
Speaker 3: It was great, wasn't its sovereignty over journalism.

550
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 2: Sovereignty over journalism.

551
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, it felt pretty appropriate.

552
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 4: Headline ESPN this morning, pretty good yesterday.

553
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, also pretty wild that every horse in the field

554
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 2: was a descendant of Secretariat. Yeah, seems almost impossible. That

555
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 2: that would be the case.

556
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,159
Speaker 3: What did they call it? Oh man, Okay, that told me.

557
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:54,120
Speaker 3: It's not Nepo baby. I don't know, I'll look it up,

558
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 3: but something they called them all like Nepa babies or

559
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 3: hold on, it's funny if I can get it.

560
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 2: Right with the horse, like some sort of playing with

561
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 2: the horses. Yeah.

562
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's Kentucky. Yeah, that's an incredible thing. That's

563
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 3: a We had that.

564
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,400
Speaker 2: Segment last week where we talked about nostalgia being dead.

565
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 2: There is something about those once in a once a

566
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 2: year things, and the Derby's kind of the one that

567
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 2: stood the test of time because like heavyweight boxing is gone,

568
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 2: baseball slit has slipped tremendously yep. But like horse, the

569
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 2: Kentucky Derby not horse racing, but the Kentucky Derby remains

570
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 2: just as popular as ever.

571
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,360
Speaker 3: Yeah. Here's the other part about it that it has

572
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 3: going for it right. It's quick like it was six fifty.

573
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 2: I want to say, yeah.

574
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,159
Speaker 3: We're like, oh man, Kentucky Derby, let's got it on.

575
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, watch it.

576
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 3: Very satisfying. I will say that I thought it was great.

577
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 3: The jockey obviously felt like he was an incredibly popular guy.

578
00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,880
Speaker 3: Amongst other jockeys. Yeah, you had the people come over

579
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 3: and say nice things. The guy that was supposed to

580
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 3: be kind of like the cameraman next to him who

581
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 3: had the camera on his head like he loves me,

582
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 3: was like, good things happened to good people. Yeah, the

583
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 3: good moments. So it was a very popular jockey who apparently,

584
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:17,639
Speaker 3: you know, got sick or something right before and they're like, no,

585
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,919
Speaker 3: you're riding the horse. And so he was thrilled with it.

586
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 3: I mean, the guy that won the the owner of

587
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 3: the horse that I mean, could not have been more

588
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:28,639
Speaker 3: out of central casting.

589
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 4: Right.

590
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 3: My my buddies were like, this guy is like he's

591
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 3: like almost too perfect of a Kentucky Derby winning horse

592
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 3: owner than he Like, it was almost hard to even

593
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 3: believe it. Yeah, it was unreal. Yeah, it was great

594
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 3: and we watched it and that was that was it.

595
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 3: That was It rolled right through. Fantastic.

596
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 2: Do you know what the thirteen year old was most

597
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 2: excited about this weekend in sports something we have not

598
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:57,160
Speaker 2: talked about yet.

599
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:58,160
Speaker 3: Scotty going Low.

600
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,120
Speaker 2: No, they were kind of into Scotty went way low.

601
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 2: Scotty could have been like thirty four. He blew it

602
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 2: at the end. As it turned out, at the end,

603
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 2: he should have had the record. He should have probably

604
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 2: could have been at thirty four. No, it was the

605
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:14,959
Speaker 2: F one In Miami. They love the F one. His

606
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 2: whole age group loves the F one. Okay, the the

607
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,360
Speaker 2: all of the pomp and circumstance around it, the glamour

608
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 2: around it. So he was watching it on Sunday before

609
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 2: his game. I had never watched like a full F

610
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,919
Speaker 2: one race, Like, it's just not on my horizon of

611
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 2: something to go check out. It's only fifty seven laps.

612
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 2: It was over in like an hour and a half.

613
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 2: I mean it was I'm like, that is compared to

614
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 2: like Nascar.

615
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 3: There it now.

616
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 2: Oh, he's all in. He is all in. They so

617
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 2: the F one game is awesome on the Xbox. Yeah,

618
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 2: so they all play that and then they all follow

619
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 2: these instagram because these lifestyles are pretty glamorous, and then

620
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 2: the drive to survive on it, so then that dovetails

621
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 2: into it. So it's like it's just a and I

622
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 2: think Full Swing copied it because they're like, this is

623
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,239
Speaker 2: really work. First, let's let's let's do this, and I

624
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 2: think that that it works. Receiver probably copied it all

625
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 2: who won the McLaren went one to McLaren Cars went

626
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 2: one to I don't know.

627
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 3: The racers Lewis Hamilton still he was like seventh, he's

628
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 3: he's Friday. Rough weekend for Ferrari as well. Ferrari down

629
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 3: there had a It was in Miami, right, yeah it was. Yeah,

630
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 3: So Ferrari had a like a yacht that they had

631
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 3: influencers go on. And by influencers, I'm sure you can

632
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 3: imagine what, yep, they look like.

633
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 2: And it was also why my thirteen year old is

634
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 2: a big fan.

635
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 3: A yacht that probably should have had I don't know

636
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 3: a third as many of them. Oh no, they got on.

637
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 3: It just sunk video. Yeah it's great. Oh no, it's

638
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 3: a very slow sing. Nobody's heard obviously, that's why we

639
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 3: can laugh about it. But they have it, the whole

640
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 3: video of them all getting on and they are very

641
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 3: little bathing suits and and then and then oh it

642
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 3: was like five times as much weight it should have

643
00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 3: been on the body.

644
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 2: Oh it was. Yeah. No, they did not have a

645
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 2: good weekend. It was McLaren, McLaren, Mercedes and then red

646
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 2: Bull was four was the way that I remember it.

647
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 2: All right, So there you go, Scotty TPC Craig Ranch.

648
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 2: Why Why have I never heard of TPC Craig Ranch.

649
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 3: I haven't either.

650
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 2: Is this the old Byron Nelson McKinney Texas recognized is

651
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 2: one of the best clubs in Dallas Fort Worth by

652
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 2: Abdy Golfer, the Permier detestation.

653
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 3: McKinny just had Texas. This isn't the one that's like

654
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:30,479
Speaker 3: where the ritz is? There?

655
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 1: Is it?

656
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Speaker 3: Because that's what they used to play in there? I

657
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Speaker 3: mean the course raiding there used to be a colonial

658
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 3: course raiding from the tips seventy six point seven TPC

659
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Speaker 3: Craig Ranch.

660
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Speaker 2: This is a new course. It's got to be a

661
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 2: new course. I've never heard of it.

662
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 3: I don't know. Seventy six hundred yard par seventy one

663
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 3: and he shot what.

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Speaker 2: Thirty one under Jesu Louise.

665
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 3: That's nuts? How much did he bring? So this place?

666
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 2: This place opened in four Yeah, yeah, yeah, that so

667
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 2: it's new. Yeah.

668
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 4: He won by eight shots, I mean and second was

669
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Speaker 4: twenty three under.

670
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 3: That's a demolishing of the field.

671
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 2: The Byron Nelson is they moved it to this place

672
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 2: in twenty one, Okay, that's what they did. So there

673
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Speaker 2: you go.

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00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's an incredible accomplishment.

675
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 2: Crazy way. The guy who finished second was twenty three

676
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 2: under and eight shots back.

677
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, not even in that like that.

678
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 2: Will never happen.

679
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

680
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 2: Guy at the best weekend of his life and he

681
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 2: was eight shots back of Scottie. All right, we will

682
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Speaker 2: It is Rookie Mini Camp week. It starts on Thursday.

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Speaker 2: take a in depth look at the state of the

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Speaker 2: Browns offense. We will hit the defense in the second

697
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Speaker 2: hour of the program and Doctor Z. We start in

698
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 2: the quarterback room, which is large, robust and wide open.

699
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 3: It is it's going to be a very true, real

700
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 3: competition in that quarterback room. You've got three young players

701
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 3: who are competing to make their NFL careers. In the

702
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 3: case of Kenny Pickett, a former first round pick of

703
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 3: the Pittsburgh Steelers who's played started twenty five games, He's

704
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 3: fifteen and ten as a starter in the NFL, a

705
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 3: as seven game winning drives, and I think, you know,

706
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 3: that experience probably gives him a little bit of an

707
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 3: early lead on things at that position. Then you've got

708
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 3: the two draft picks, and I think that's what's so

709
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 3: exciting about this season and this team right now, is

710
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 3: that you have got really a very unique mix in

711
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,479
Speaker 3: those three guys. So I mentioned obviously Kenny Pickett, and

712
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 3: then you've got the rookies, Dylan Gabriel, the Browns loved,

713
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 3: who is pick number ninety four in this year's draft.

714
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 3: And then you've got Shador Sanders, who might be the

715
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 3: second most talented quarterback in this draft class, but obviously

716
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 3: a bad pre draft process had him fall and he

717
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 3: fell to pick number one, forty four for the Browns.

718
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 3: So those are the three young guys, and I think

719
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 3: everybody would ultimately want one of those three young guys

720
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 3: to really emerge from that group and kind of grab

721
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,959
Speaker 3: this job by the horns. I think obviously, you know,

722
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 3: everything will be earned. I think Kenny Pickett is probably,

723
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 3: you know, leader in the clubhouse just given his experience.

724
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 3: Then you've got Gabriel and then you've got chadorm Peels.

725
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 3: So Nathan, you haven't mentioned Joe Flacco. And then of

726
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 3: course you have Joe Flacco, who's in his nineteenth NFL season,

727
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 3: who is obviously the winning this guy on this roster,

728
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 3: the former Super Bowl champ Flaco fever was running wild

729
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 3: here in late twenty three. Joe Flacco is a tremendous player.

730
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 3: He is a tremendous person. But Joe Flacco is not

731
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 3: somebody that gives you a chance at what I believe

732
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 3: is the ultimate goal for the Browns in the quarterback

733
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 3: room this year, which is to find the answer for

734
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 3: the present and the future. Yeah, and outside of his

735
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 3: four and one year with us in twenty twenty three,

736
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 3: the last season in which you know, Joe Flacco had

737
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:39,800
Speaker 3: a winning record in an NFL season, was twenty seventeen,

738
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:45,839
Speaker 3: so we had a magical, magical time. He absolutely can

739
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 3: sling it. The turnovers are still a little bit of

740
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 3: a problem. But Joe Flacco I think gives you some stability.

741
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna give you some mentorship. He gives

742
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 3: you kind of that experience in the room and helps

743
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 3: round out that room very nicely. And could Joe Flaco

744
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 3: start games with the Browns this year? Absolutely? It feels

745
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 3: more likely though that this is a year about trying

746
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:08,800
Speaker 3: to answer. Can Kenny Pickett, Candylan Gabriel, can should or

747
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 3: Sanders be the answer and allow us next year to

748
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 3: select perhaps the best receiver in the draft in Caleb Downs,

749
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,240
Speaker 3: or the best tackle in the draft of Caleb Downs,

750
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 3: or the best tackle, the best reiever, the best whatever

751
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,320
Speaker 3: it is, two studs in next year's draft and not

752
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,439
Speaker 3: after dress quarterback position. To me, that feels like that's

753
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 3: what we're after here in this season at that position,

754
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 3: and of course we want to win games just.

755
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 2: To give you a night folks. From perspective, Kenny Pickett

756
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 2: will turn twenty seven in June, so he's twenty six now,

757
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 2: will turn twenty seven in June. Gabriel's twenty four. Shore

758
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 2: Sanders is twenty three, quite honestly, one of you know,

759
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 2: Like this is just my personal goals for this season

760
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 2: is to see a lot of all of three of them. Yeah,

761
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 2: I'd like to see them all start some games unless

762
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 2: somebody just grabs it by the throat and you're like, wow,

763
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 2: we're going, let's go. But if not, but then I

764
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 2: want to see what all three of them have because

765
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 2: I think the most important thing that you've got to

766
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 2: sort out is do you have an answer at this

767
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 2: position on this roster? And if you don't, then next

768
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,399
Speaker 2: off season is very, very different. But you have three

769
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 2: swings at this thing. Bites at the apple. There's three

770
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 2: of them, and they're all young. I mean, Shere's twenty three,

771
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 2: just turned twenty three, yep, Gabriel doesn't turn twenty five

772
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 2: until December, so like he's young relatively speaking. So if

773
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Speaker 2: any one of those three pops, they could end up

774
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Speaker 2: being the long term.

775
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:32,280
Speaker 3: Answer decade plus.

776
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

777
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that's got to be what the

778
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 3: goal ultimately is.

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00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, the running back room is was addressed bigly.

780
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Speaker 3: My guess is you end up keeping three quarterbacks? Could

781
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 3: you keep four? Of course? But I guess he's end

782
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 3: up keeping three.

783
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 2: Do you think he'll I think do you think it's

784
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 2: possible for four at the beginning? Yeah, that's kind of

785
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 2: my lean. Maybe four at the beginning, and then you'll

786
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 2: have to make some tough decisions, or there could be

787
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:56,959
Speaker 2: an injury somewhere around the league too where somebody needs

788
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 2: to those type of things could play.

789
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 3: But Aaron Rodgers is, wait, not do we think that?

790
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 3: I think that Otherwise, I don't get why wouldn't you

791
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 3: be signed? I don't know. You can't be like I

792
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 3: don't want to do. It's one thing to be Michael

793
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 3: Strahan and say I don't want to participate in the

794
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 3: off season program for the Giants, the team that I've

795
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 3: been on, Yeah the whole time. Yeah, I know this defense.

796
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,320
Speaker 3: I know you're coming to a new team.

797
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. I also think Michael Strand maybe has a little

798
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 2: bit of humility, And it doesn't feel like Rogers says

799
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 2: any No.

800
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Speaker 3: I don't believe so.

801
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 2: To me, it just feels like if he's gonna play,

802
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,399
Speaker 2: that's a mindset for getting a body right that you'd

803
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 2: have to be completely locked into, versus waiting on an

804
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 2: injury that may not occur. You might not get one.

805
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 3: I think his mindset as could be that. But that's

806
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 3: the other thing. No, you might, you just might not

807
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 3: get that. History would say you probably will get that.

808
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, last year it would have been Tua went down

809
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 2: for a little while. Were there any permanent injuries last

810
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 2: year a quarterback?

811
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the two one would have been huge. I mean

812
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 3: they could have he could have popped.

813
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 2: He come back or is he done?

814
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 3: No, you didn't finish season. We played when they played.

815
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 2: Right, that's right. I couldn't remember. He's been hurting so

816
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 2: many season. I remember last year he came back or not.

817
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,399
Speaker 2: So that's the one because we said we'll go get

818
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 2: Tannehill like that was or us last year with the

819
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 2: Watson injury. Another spot where you lose, where you lose

820
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,359
Speaker 2: somebody in the middle of it. But yeah, I mean.

821
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 3: You're there's typically one or two's usually one.

822
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, but then you got to make sure it's a

823
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 2: place you'd want to go.

824
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 3: But like Burrow two years ago, he could have that

825
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 3: one lid right in there.

826
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,240
Speaker 2: Those ye know, if something happened to Stafford, then you

827
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 2: go right in there. That's easy. But yeah, it's very

828
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 2: specific circumstances.

829
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 3: You're there, the running back room is loaded, Buddy yep,

830
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 3: and I think we'll go three here again, this could

831
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 3: potentially be four, but obviously Judkins, Samson and Jerome Ford

832
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 3: with the restructuring. Now, Jerome Ford's contract is also very

833
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 3: tradable at this point, so I I don't think Nick

834
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 3: Chubb is out of the picture until he signed somewhere else.

835
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 3: I'm going to believe that the Browns are doing everything

836
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 3: they can to bring him back. And I look at

837
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 3: the Ford is saying no, here's some more money that

838
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 3: we have now. But I could be looking at that incorrectly,

839
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 3: But that's where you are there. But this is going

840
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 3: to be fun, and I would imagine that it's going

841
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 3: to be a lot of Judkins Sampson and then right now,

842
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 3: the way that the rooms constructed, Jerome Ford will be

843
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 3: your third down back because he enterstands pass pro, he

844
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 3: can handle all of that stuff for you, and he's

845
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 3: a good special teams player. So you're running backroom. If

846
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 3: nothing happens, there could be set. Obviously, we all want

847
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 3: Nick Chubb. I want Nick Chubb, and every day that

848
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 3: that's there and he hasn't signed somewhere else, still we

849
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 3: look at it I believe that we're in the mix.

850
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 2: Yep, all right, receiver. Is this room solved?

851
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 3: I think that's going to be dependent a lot on

852
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 3: Deontay Johnson, because if Deontay Johnson is Deontay Johnson the

853
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 3: good productive player we've seen, I think you have four locks,

854
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 3: and I guess you only have five receivers this year

855
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 3: and then Thrash, Michael Wood's, David Bellcane Davis will all

856
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 3: be battling for one spot.

857
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 2: It's not a load of I think I'd like one

858
00:39:59,480 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 2: more in here.

859
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 3: What's our doing?

860
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 2: Is he I don't know? Is he in the league?

861
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 2: I don't know? Is he in a roster? Mari is

862
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:10,720
Speaker 2: who currently nowhere?

863
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 3: Mario's DPJ did not play in twenty twenty four.

864
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 2: He did not play.

865
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 3: How is that possible? Wild? They had the year before

866
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 3: he had five ninety seven and three.

867
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Speaker 2: Wow, that's wild.

868
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 3: Wild.

869
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 2: So he got cut in Detroit and then that was it.

870
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Speaker 3: Yeah, let me say if he what he did, if

871
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 3: he was on like a practice squad or anything. He

872
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 3: was on their practice squad last year.

873
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 2: That's wild. Yeah. So to me, this room, I think

874
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,240
Speaker 2: you need a little bit here, or you need Cedric

875
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 2: Tillman to go. Yeah, you need him to really to

876
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 2: really go a little bit tight end room looks pretty solid,

877
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 2: cheap at the top. And then you add Fannin.

878
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:55,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, and my guess is this is going to be

879
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 3: a two to three. You know, they like Blake Whiteheart

880
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 3: what he showed last year. He got Trey McKitty A

881
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:03,959
Speaker 3: I think I want to say a third round pick.

882
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 2: Let's Trey McKitty.

883
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:12,359
Speaker 3: Yeah in twenty twenty one. Yeah, he was a third

884
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 3: round pick of the Chargers in twenty twenty one. He's

885
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 3: appeared in thirty four games in his career with the Chargers.

886
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 3: So you got some other guys who are competing. And

887
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 3: then Brendan Bates as well. I don't know that necessarily.

888
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 3: I think you got two that you really like there,

889
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 3: and that's pretty much it. He appeared Baits appeared in

890
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 3: two games for US last year, and he has no

891
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 3: catches in his career.

892
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 2: On the offensive line, we begin in the middle at

893
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,800
Speaker 2: center and posting of course the starter, but Whippler returns.

894
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 2: You got to remember Whippler before the injury. They loved him,

895
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 2: loved him so.

896
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 3: Kind of a star cross position like Nick Harris, Whipler significant,

897
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 3: significant injuries in those young guys that they've really liked

898
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 3: at the center position. But I think right now you

899
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 3: could Post and Whippler, that'd be two of them there

900
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 3: at guard.

901
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 2: The two stalwarts return Buttonio and Teller, and then you

902
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 2: need Zax Zinter to come along behind him.

903
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, you really need Zack center to take a big, big,

904
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,839
Speaker 3: big step forward in his third year or second year.

905
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, the third round pick of a year ago

906
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 3: who was overmatched, strength was not where it needed to be.

907
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 3: Jenkins is a guy who has started a lot of

908
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 3: games in the NFL. Gives you that valuable depth behind him,

909
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 3: and that's kind of where I see. I see all

910
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:33,240
Speaker 3: four of those guys. Tevin Jenkins forty five games, sixteen start,

911
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 3: forty five games, thirty eight starts in his career. He's

912
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 3: played all along the line. He can play tackle, he

913
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 3: can play guard, he can do it all. It was

914
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 3: a second round pick of the Bears thirty ninth overall

915
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty one. So I think that you're going

916
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 3: to have four of those guys, and then I think

917
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 3: three tackles and Jenkins you look at us kind of

918
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 3: like a guard, emergency tackle and tackles we Conklindwan Cornelius Lucas,

919
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 3: And my guess here is that what you really need is,

920
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,720
Speaker 3: you know, the health of Conklin and Dewan Jones's it's

921
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:01,800
Speaker 3: critically important.

922
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think big picture in order for this not

923
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:09,399
Speaker 2: to be like focus number one in the draft next year,

924
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 2: is you need seventeen games or close out of Duan Jones.

925
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 2: I think it still could be because, yeah, because Conkline

926
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,359
Speaker 2: and then Cornelis Lucas is you know, an undrafted free

927
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,800
Speaker 2: agent who's been so good that he stayed in the

928
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 2: league since twenty fourteen. Yeah, you need a lot of

929
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,800
Speaker 2: health luck there. And then I think you need Ziner

930
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 2: and Whippler to really come along this year because I mean,

931
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 2: Joel contemplated retirement this offseason. You just don't know how

932
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 2: much he has left. You need to have a little

933
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 2: bit of future planning here on this offensive line. You

934
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 2: need these guys that you've drafted or Whippler was an

935
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 2: undrafted free agent, but Zinter and Jones who were drafted.

936
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,320
Speaker 2: Jones a fourth rounder but plays like a first rounder

937
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 2: when healthy. You need to see them play this year

938
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 2: and you need them to be good otherwise next offseason,

939
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 2: you're going to be rebuilding the offensive line.

940
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's why I already have mentioned that. I mean,

941
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 3: I would love to be able to get an impact

942
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 3: weapon on offense or defense along with you know, a tackle.

943
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 3: But I feel like that's probably going to be a

944
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 3: priority for the Cleveland Browns going in the next year. Regardless. Yeah, regardless.

945
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 3: You know, Conklin was drafted in the twenty fifteen draft.

946
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 3: It's been a while he's not or maybe twenty sixteen draft.

947
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:21,959
Speaker 3: Twenty sixteen draft.

948
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 2: He was on that team that beat o highest state

949
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 2: in Columbus.

950
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, so he's you know, he's going to turn thirty

951
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 3: one before the season starts. He's battled injuries, got twelve

952
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:32,919
Speaker 3: games out of him. Last time he got sixteen games

953
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 3: out of Jack Conklin was twenty nineteen, and unfortunately, what

954
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 3: has been a bad trend is he's been on it

955
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 3: every other year fifteen games in twenty seven and twenty one,

956
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 3: fourteen and twenty two one in twenty three, twelve, and

957
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 3: twenty four. So hopefully he can you know, we can

958
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 3: get that out of him. And then to your point

959
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 3: with Dewan, Dwan Jones has the ability to be a

960
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 3: top ten tackle in this league. But unfortunately he's only

961
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 3: been able to give you, you know, twenty one games

962
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 3: in two years.

963
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 2: All right, So I think, you know, as we're connecting

964
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 2: some dots here, I would like to see something else

965
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 2: in the receiver room to supplement if there's opportunity, And

966
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 2: then I think you anything available on the offensive line,

967
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 2: you need to be ready to pounce on any.

968
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 3: More on the tackles than interior. You're pretty loaded. As

969
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 3: long as you know, you assume that if Whiffler's healthy,

970
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 3: you're in a pretty good spot on the interior of

971
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 3: the line. In that area, I don't think. I don't

972
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 3: expect them to do much at They obviously have a

973
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 3: lot of belief in Conklin and Dewand. But yeah, if

974
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 3: there was a tackle that came available that made sense,

975
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 3: it could be this year and beyond, you know, that

976
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 3: would be something certainly to look and those guys just

977
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 3: typically don't become available, No.

978
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 2: They don't. Were you surprised we did not address it

979
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 2: in the draft?

980
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:50,760
Speaker 3: I think that had things fallen differently, For example, had

981
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 3: connorly or what was the name of the big tackle

982
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 3: from Ohio State who I think when thirty Simmons. Simmons,

983
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 3: I think maybe if one of those guys made it

984
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:05,879
Speaker 3: to thirty three, maybe you know that you get that there,

985
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 3: and I think that's possible for sure.

986
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 2: I'm trying to see, like who's still out there free

987
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 2: agent wise. I know it's not much, but if there were.

988
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 2: ESPN does not make it easy with their free agent tracker.

989
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 2: No best available, let's do that. Yeah, it's I mean

990
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 2: Amari's number two. It's two corners Rasoul Douglas and Amari's two,

991
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 2: Asante Samuel's three, Mike Hilton another corner is four. How

992
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 2: do we have this glut of corners?

993
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 3: There are still a corner draft my guess, guess, And

994
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 3: those guys have been in the league. Hilton in particular,

995
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:46,359
Speaker 3: has been the league for a long time.

996
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 2: Keenan Allen's bouncing or he's still there, he's kind of

997
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 2: I know how much Amari's there.

998
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 3: To me, if I'm looking at a receiver on that list,

999
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 3: I'm looking for somebody with Amari because he knows the

1000
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 3: offense and was dominant the last time he was here.

1001
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 3: Or I'm looking at speed, Yeah, like a Marquez Callaway

1002
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 3: who's probably way down the list, but out of from

1003
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 3: New Orleans. Who are some guys on there with speed.

1004
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 2: Well, they haven't moved Deontay Johnson yet.

1005
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 3: Nelson Aguilar has got speed. Yeah, you need somebody that's vertical.

1006
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 2: You need a burner for sure. Uh god, it's interesting,

1007
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,439
Speaker 2: it's amazing. Like Jed Wills is eleven on this. I've

1008
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 2: not heard a single whisper about Jed Wills anywhere, And

1009
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 2: I know at one point in the off season like, well,

1010
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 2: maybe you could bring him back. That doesn't feel like

1011
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 2: that's in play at all, that that that's not the case.

1012
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 2: It doesn't feel like it's in play for us, which

1013
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 2: to me is or anywhere like he like nobody hasn't

1014
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 2: I mean, was.

1015
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 3: A I'm with you one is that could be a

1016
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 3: he could be a solution. He could be a solution. Obviously,

1017
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:04,399
Speaker 3: there are reasons nobody would know him better here. It's unfortunate,

1018
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 3: but apparently he's twenty six games, he's twenty six years old.

1019
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 3: He was number ten overall picking the draft, and he's

1020
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,280
Speaker 3: started I think close to sixty games.

1021
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 2: I think you, let's say, yeah, his career pass block

1022
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:18,879
Speaker 2: win rate is ninety two percent.

1023
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 3: Fifty eight games, fifty seven starts. Look there are so

1024
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 3: many optics with it that were bad. I get that.

1025
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,879
Speaker 3: I'm not making the case that, based on everything we've

1026
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 3: seen that you know, Jed Wills has to be here.

1027
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 3: The case that I am making is that he is talented.

1028
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:35,800
Speaker 3: He turns twenty six May seventeenth. He is young, yeah,

1029
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 3: twenty six, and he's played four years in the NFL

1030
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 3: and started fifty seven games. That if he's going to

1031
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 3: figure it out, I'd rather have him do it here

1032
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 3: than go be a ten year tackle somewhere else. Now

1033
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 3: it feels like.

1034
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 2: Maybe this is a reality check for him too.

1035
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 3: Who knows he's not or not?

1036
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, hard to say, but I haven't heard range anything

1037
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 2: about him, not for us, not for anybody, no, nothing,

1038
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 2: not a word. Second hour of the program coming up next.

1039
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:00,560
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00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,440
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1047
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1052
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1053
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 2: Washington d C is going to host the twenty twenty

1054
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 2: seven NFL Draft. It will be done on the National Mall.

1055
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 2: That'll look nice, buddy, some good drone shots of that one.

1056
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 3: It look beautiful. That'll be a great backdrop. Yeah. The

1057
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 3: Washington Monument will be right there. It's to be fantastic.

1058
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 2: Do you know you're well, you're gonna have Lincoln at

1059
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:14,839
Speaker 2: one end of it.

1060
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:18,319
Speaker 3: You're gonna have Lincoln, Washington and the Cross a cross

1061
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 3: Jefferson White House.

1062
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's awesome.

1063
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 3: I love the Jeffers.

1064
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 2: You know who's going to go one two in that draft?

1065
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 3: Do I?

1066
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1067
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 3: Jeremiah Smith and Archie Manning probably inverted.

1068
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 2: Arch Manning is gonna go one. Yeah, Jeremiah Smith two so.

1069
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 3: I got it college, then call me college football nate

1070
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:40,800
Speaker 3: for nothing.

1071
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 2: If I were to give you that duo in that order,

1072
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 2: what odds would it take for you to bet something significant?

1073
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 2: Because the odds are it's not going to work that way.

1074
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 2: One of them will get hurt or they won't live

1075
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 2: up to height.

1076
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 3: Now that would have to be That would be plus

1077
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 3: odds anyway, And that there is in another quarterback. That's

1078
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,880
Speaker 3: the that's the more of a three to Jeremiah Smith

1079
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 3: being there is that there is another quarterback that teams want.

1080
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 2: It would go too. Yeah, So that could be like

1081
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 2: a DJ Legway Sureham Florida. That could be a Julian

1082
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 2: sand At of Ohio State.

1083
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 3: Could be what if Drew Aller says, you know what,

1084
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:17,720
Speaker 3: I want to stay and get tons of nil money

1085
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:19,720
Speaker 3: and be the king of college.

1086
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 2: Isn't he would he be a senior? Isn't he a

1087
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:24,919
Speaker 2: senior this year? Yeah?

1088
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 4: I don't think that would be possible.

1089
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:27,359
Speaker 3: He's a senior this year?

1090
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, fourth year in Happy Valley.

1091
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 3: Why did he come out? Well?

1092
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:35,360
Speaker 2: I think the performance getting performance against Notre Dame. I

1093
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 2: think I think NFL people who didn't watch him.

1094
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 3: So who else is it good. So you need like

1095
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 3: quarterback going in their junior year, well, that would.

1096
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 2: Be so going into sophomore years what you need because

1097
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 2: you got to get to twenty twenty seven, so you

1098
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:48,879
Speaker 2: have to have two years of eligibility left. So that's

1099
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 2: Legway at Florida, that's Julian Sane at Ohio State. Those

1100
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 2: are the highest ranked guys.

1101
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 4: Will Leonora Sellers be this draft.

1102
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:02,280
Speaker 2: Of this year's draft is Sellers, so it'll be Sellers,

1103
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 2: Beck Alert healthy again. Nusmyer, who I don't a lot

1104
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 2: of people have him like and he's way way way

1105
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 2: too early. Mocks that like number one miswatch.

1106
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:13,319
Speaker 3: So Aler's a senior this year.

1107
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 2: He's in his fourth year at Happy Valley. I'm pretty sure.

1108
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, he came out of Medna. His freshman year at

1109
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 5: Penn State was twenty twenty one.

1110
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, so twenty one twenty three, yeah, yeah, yeah, so

1111
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 2: he's in Yeah, because he sat behind was it mcsorty

1112
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 2: might have been yeah, No, no, Nolford, Sean Clifford.

1113
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 4: Or Shan Clifford yep, yeah.

1114
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 2: Clifford held off Will Levis and then Levis transferred to Kentucky.

1115
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 2: I think it's how I.

1116
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 3: Remember that yeah, he's going in his fourth year. Yeah. Wow.

1117
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 2: Well, a lot of people think he would have gone

1118
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 2: number two overall to us, But I what I would

1119
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 2: say is, and look, he's a Northeast Ohio kid, he's

1120
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 2: a media kid. It's an unbelievable story. He's got great size,

1121
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 2: but like it he needs. He did the smart thing.

1122
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 2: First of all, I don't think he would have gone too.

1123
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 2: I think there would have been all sorts of holes

1124
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 2: that would have been poked in his game. He at

1125
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:11,760
Speaker 2: times can become a little bit of a checkdown Charlie.

1126
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 2: He at times can put the ball in harm's way.

1127
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,359
Speaker 2: But this is year two. This will be year two

1128
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 2: in the same offense for him in state college after

1129
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:21,800
Speaker 2: they kind of bounced around a little bit offensively. I

1130
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 2: think he'll benefit tremendously from that. And I think he's

1131
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 2: got a chance to be top five next year. I

1132
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 2: don't know that he would have been there this year

1133
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:32,800
Speaker 2: that high not other game. Game was tough for him, Yeah, yeah,

1134
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 2: tough sledding. But that'll be really cool to see that there.

1135
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 2: The Patriots have been inducted wide receiver Julian Edelman into

1136
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 2: the team's Hall of Fame. The thirty seventh player to

1137
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 2: receive that honor from New England. We have our first

1138
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 2: rookie who has signed. Chiefs tackle Josh Simmons we just

1139
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 2: talked about him, actually became the second first round rookie

1140
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 2: in this year's draft to sign four years, fourteen point

1141
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 2: sixty five million for him. The last pick in the

1142
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 2: first round, the tackle ot of Ohio State, chance to

1143
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 2: go in the top ten, probably would have it he

1144
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 2: didn't got hurt. If he hadn't gotten hurt, he would

1145
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 2: have been a top ten pick at tackle. Yeah, so

1146
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 2: that's a really nice pick for the Chiefs. Another rookie

1147
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 2: of news, Abdul Carter will won't be wearing number eleven

1148
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 2: for the Giants either. Phil Simms retired number eleven will

1149
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:16,359
Speaker 2: stay that way after the quarterback was out voted by

1150
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 2: his family. Oh my gosh, this is a good point

1151
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 2: out of you, g man. Why can't this jude just

1152
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 2: pick his own number? So you wanted to wear fifty six?

1153
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 2: Lawrence Taylor said, Nah, don't think so, so then he

1154
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 2: pivoted to eleven. Sims initially said he can have it

1155
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 2: if he asked. Then apparently Simms's family said no.

1156
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like, dude, just create your own legacy, find

1157
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 5: your number, make yourself a household name, Like, there's no

1158
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 5: need to reinvent the wheel here. I don't I don't

1159
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 5: get it. Also, it tells you where we are in

1160
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 5: terms of a news landscape, that this is like a story.

1161
00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 2: We're looking for anything. Brother, Yep, yes, I'm trying to

1162
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 2: see all right, So all right, here's what's a it. Well,

1163
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 2: this is why he's struggling.

1164
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 3: All right.

1165
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 2: Giants have retired are obviously an incredible fan base, incredible

1166
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:21,360
Speaker 2: franchise history. Number one is retired, Number four is retired

1167
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 2: for a toughy Leman's retired, number four mel Hine is.

1168
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:29,439
Speaker 2: Number seven is retired Eli Manning. So they retired ten.

1169
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 2: Holy cow, they got a lot of them. Phil Simms

1170
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 2: with eleven, why a tittle? Fourteen? All of those are retired.

1171
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:39,320
Speaker 2: Frank Gifford is sixteen retired.

1172
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:42,840
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's a lot of numbers.

1173
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 2: That's why they got even halfway there.

1174
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:47,360
Speaker 3: I mean, that's why do the patch I know you

1175
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 3: wear fifty six. It has a Lawrence Taylor cool silhouette.

1176
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 3: You know, every player who has it gets their own

1177
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 3: cool like silhouette. Right, and that's what you do.

1178
00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:59,479
Speaker 2: It's interesting too because like they have numbers like number

1179
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 2: ones retire, but they issued it to Malik Neighbors.

1180
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 3: So that's because that was approved.

1181
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 2: I don't know, or the guy's so old that no

1182
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 2: one's there to approve it for him. Well that's it.

1183
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. He could wear fifty one.

1184
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 2: That's kind of a good linebacker rush number. Yeah, that's

1185
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 2: out there. What's left in the nineties. My guess is

1186
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:26,360
Speaker 2: he can't wear No. Yeah, there's not much in the

1187
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 2: nineties available either, because ninety two is straighthand that's retired. Yeah,

1188
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 2: there's not much. They a lot of their stuff's taken.

1189
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 2: They got like ten numbers are tired.

1190
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 3: That's why have this out of time man nf have

1191
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:41,399
Speaker 3: Like somebody who does the silhouettes could be by team.

1192
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 3: You could do it what however you want. You have

1193
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 3: a big patch on fifty six, would say like Lawrence

1194
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 3: Taylor or LT, and you have a silhouette of him

1195
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 3: like you know, some famous LT picture and you put

1196
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 3: on the jersey. And that's why when kids do it,

1197
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 3: and it's and those things should be in Madden and

1198
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 3: then when you just take them, it's like, oh, that's

1199
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:58,800
Speaker 3: el Dad, who is LT? You're going to their legacy

1200
00:56:58,800 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 3: a life.

1201
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 2: It's so simple and it doesn't even have to be

1202
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:03,399
Speaker 2: Like if the NFL doesn't want the patch to be huge,

1203
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 2: I like your idea of just a silhouette. Just have

1204
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:10,319
Speaker 2: a silhouette of LT with a fifty six on the

1205
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:12,799
Speaker 2: shoulder and you're good.

1206
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:14,319
Speaker 3: Right, that's it.

1207
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 2: That's it, that's it, and then you can wear it.

1208
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 2: But like this notion that, like Chris Simms was like,

1209
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 2: oh Dad, no one can wear eleven again since you

1210
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 2: wore it. Yeah, what do you care?

1211
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1212
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 2: Right, Phil Simms is an famer.

1213
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 3: But no, But also Phil Simmons should be the one

1214
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 3: who makes that decision.

1215
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 2: Well, I think he's copping out a little bit, don't you. Yes,

1216
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 2: I can't imagine that his family's like, oh Dad, they

1217
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 2: can't have anybody wear your number. So did you see

1218
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 2: you have the Belichick stuff in here? Did you see

1219
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 2: what they're doing at Carolina now? They're hiring a separate

1220
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 2: pr They're trying to hire a separate PR position to

1221
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 2: move his book and to help him with this firestorm.

1222
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 2: You don't say, you don't say. I think I think

1223
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:09,919
Speaker 2: it's interesting when people who how would you describe Bill

1224
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 2: Belichick's handling dealings with the media over the years.

1225
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 3: What would be the way you use the word you

1226
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 3: use to describe contentious?

1227
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 2: Okay, so if you have a contentious relationship with the

1228
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 2: media for two plus decades and now all of a sudden,

1229
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 2: you want them to be kind and rosy and fuzzy

1230
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 2: to you so you can sell a book, and so

1231
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 2: kids will go to the new University of North Carolina

1232
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 2: and they don't reciprocate. Now you're shocked.

1233
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 3: You get what you get, and you get what you

1234
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 3: give a statement saying that they did this and this,

1235
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 3: and then it's crazy. They were actually like, no, you

1236
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 3: didn't agree to this. It was a wide ranging interview

1237
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 3: that was.

1238
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 2: News.

1239
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're not like it's journalism.

1240
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 2: It is like what are we doing.

1241
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 3: It's just it's one of those things where it's like

1242
00:58:56,320 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 3: sometimes you just wish that people would This is one

1243
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:05,959
Speaker 3: of those situations where like what everybody thought of Bill

1244
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 3: Belichick five years ago, yeah, three years ago, even it's

1245
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 3: just to see it. He's now become like a punchline

1246
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 3: a little bit, for sure. It's awful. Yeah, sometimes you

1247
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 3: need to it needed know when to hold him, know

1248
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 3: when to fold him, no, when to walk away, no,

1249
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 3: when to run, like sometimes you know when to walk away. Yeah,

1250
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 3: and he maybe just should have done that.

1251
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 2: I think he was driven by the ego of Brady

1252
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 2: winning without him. He really thought he was gonna win

1253
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 2: that he really thought that he could replace Brady before

1254
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 2: Brady could go somewhere and win. And that was it

1255
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 2: became a point. I mean, this is just reading the

1256
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 2: Wickersham reporting a lot of it where it like it

1257
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 2: became it was really more about Belichick than it was

1258
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 2: even Brady. I don't know that Brady was like demanding

1259
00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 2: anything for Bill. No, but Bill like wanted to prove

1260
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 2: that he could do without Brady. It's wild.

1261
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 3: It's wild. It also is just I think a very

1262
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 3: It's just such an unfortunate thing to see. It's just

1263
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 3: the way that it's gone down has been just so

1264
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 3: I don't know. It's like I said, he went from

1265
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 3: being so revered the Patriot Way and all of that,

1266
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 3: and now he's kind of like being made fun of

1267
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 3: for basically being controlled by a twenty four year old.

1268
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 2: You got Portnoy who staged a sit in sit in

1269
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 2: at the NFL headquarters saying blink if you're okay, yep,

1270
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 2: that's how far we've fallen on that thing. Speaking of

1271
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 2: coaches in interesting spots, Michigan's head coach, Cheron Moore is

1272
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 2: in an interesting spot. So Michigan's self imposed a two

1273
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 2: game suspension of More. This stems from the Connor Stallion

1274
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 2: spygates stuff from a from a couple of years ago

1275
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 2: that occurred over over three seasons. Michigan went from We're

1276
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 2: gonna fight this no matter what to maybe we did

1277
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 2: have a couple of things we did. Now. The crazy

1278
01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 2: thing about it is they've chosen games three and four

1279
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 2: because they're their second game this season is against Oklahoma,

1280
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 2: so they don't want More to miss that game. So

1281
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:28,840
Speaker 2: he's gonna coach the first two weeks and then according

1282
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:31,320
Speaker 2: to Michigan, he's gonna he's gonna be sitting out the

1283
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 2: Central Michigan in Nebraska games, which is just comical that

1284
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 2: that those are the that's what they decided to do.

1285
01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:41,440
Speaker 2: They're gonna get hit more stiffly by this. For sure.

1286
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 2: More is gonna feel the run of it because they

1287
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 2: can't get Harbor anymore. Because he got to Danny Ocean

1288
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:49,760
Speaker 2: and leave after stealing everything. So that's that's kind of

1289
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:52,440
Speaker 2: the way that it works. I talked to but I

1290
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:54,400
Speaker 2: talked a lot about this today. I don't know what

1291
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 2: is an appropriate pound of flesh for this. I really don't.

1292
01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:00,200
Speaker 2: I don't know what you do with them. I I

1293
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 2: don't know that anybody cares if show more suspended. I

1294
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 2: don't know that that cares to Buckeye Van or to

1295
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 2: Michigan State Fan or anybody else that was aggrieved by

1296
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:11,440
Speaker 2: by what Michigan was doing here. My hunch is that

1297
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 2: if you want a penalty to really be harsh, it

1298
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 2: would be taking them off the road and recruiting, like

1299
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 2: for an extended period of time so they couldn't go

1300
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 2: out on the road and recruit kids. I think that

1301
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 2: might do it. I think a financial penalty would be

1302
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 2: stiff as well. In a free transfer, I guess if

1303
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:29,880
Speaker 2: you give him a bowl ban or something like that,

1304
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 2: that would hurt because kids might not want to play there.

1305
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:34,160
Speaker 2: That's probably the best you're going to do. You're never

1306
01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:36,160
Speaker 2: going to get the pound of flesh from the people

1307
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 2: who did it, though, no, because that's not how the

1308
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:39,120
Speaker 2: instaba works.

1309
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just the thing is.

1310
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:47,360
Speaker 2: Silly some spring football news. The UFL announced today that

1311
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 2: the new CBA has been signed by the UFL Players Association.

1312
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:52,720
Speaker 2: It runs through twenty twenty six. I'll be candid with you,

1313
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 2: I had forgotten about this league.

1314
01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:59,440
Speaker 3: Very forgettableshn. I see it at the When I was

1315
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 3: at the gym yesterday, it was on, so I saw

1316
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 3: a little bit of it. I did not see any

1317
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:05,960
Speaker 3: names that I really recognized.

1318
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 2: So let me tell you something, Shador Sanders, if we

1319
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:16,720
Speaker 2: had a partnership with the UFL, would benefit if like

1320
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:19,000
Speaker 2: we had, if we had a designated team like if

1321
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 2: if there aren't enough teams for all thirty two. But

1322
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 2: let's say that like US San Francisco, Minnesota, all the

1323
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:31,280
Speaker 2: wide zone teams had like a UFL affiliate that you

1324
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 2: could send your rookies to. It would be awesome even

1325
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:38,240
Speaker 2: to your young guys like dtr totally. He needs to

1326
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:38,840
Speaker 2: play games.

1327
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:39,680
Speaker 3: Ye needs to.

1328
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 2: Play some games. So send Shador down there, send Dylan

1329
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 2: Gabriel down there. Let them play our system for our

1330
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:50,560
Speaker 2: farm team that we share with three other teams that

1331
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 2: think similar to us.

1332
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:53,200
Speaker 3: The hard part is you don't really don't want to

1333
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:54,840
Speaker 3: send running back. You kind of almost wanted to be.

1334
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 2: Like quarterbacks receiver, AM, but there's such a glutter receivers.

1335
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 2: You could send we even Q and you and send

1336
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:03,840
Speaker 2: quinch On Judkins there. But like you could send Pierre

1337
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:06,120
Speaker 2: Strong there. You could send some of the guys that

1338
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:09,400
Speaker 2: we've had. You could fill a roster. Yeah, you know,

1339
01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, if you draft somebody, I mean

1340
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 2: send them there to go get some work. These guys

1341
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 2: don't at quarterback especially, they do not play enough games.

1342
01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:20,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, and the preseason just doesn't cut it. No, you're

1343
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 5: you're running a shell of what your offense actually is.

1344
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 4: You want to know what put that stuff on tape.

1345
01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 2: No, there's there's no doubt there is that league. If

1346
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 2: it can survive for the next couple of years, if

1347
01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 2: it ever gets to the point where the NFL will

1348
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 2: supplement it, Yeah, I think you're onto something. I think

1349
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:41,240
Speaker 2: I think it could be a need. We'll take a

1350
01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:43,440
Speaker 2: look at some of the winners and losers of the

1351
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 2: NFL draft. Matt Miller with a list that includes some

1352
01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:48,400
Speaker 2: of our guys on it. We will get to that

1353
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:50,400
Speaker 2: coming up next to listen to Cleveland Browns Daily, presented

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01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:54,560
Speaker 2: a fifty ESPN Cleveland.

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01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:04,680
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily presented by Bally Beck, an official sports

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01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:07,480
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1358
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:09,560
Speaker 1: esp and Cleveland.

1359
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 2: Certainly aware of this story that broke this morning. Brown's

1360
01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:29,720
Speaker 2: linebacker Devin Bush arrested in charged with simple assault and

1361
01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:35,240
Speaker 2: harassment in Pennsylvania on Sunday, according to court records. According

1362
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 2: to criminal complaint obtained by ESPN, police were called to

1363
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 2: a home in Pittsburgh Suburbs on Sunday in a report

1364
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:43,480
Speaker 2: of an assault. A woman who identified herself as Bush's

1365
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:49,040
Speaker 2: girlfriend said Bush assaulted her and took her car keys. Officially,

1366
01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 2: we what is there? We're aware of it and looking

1367
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:54,280
Speaker 2: into it. That's kind of where we're at with it. Yeah,

1368
01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:54,680
Speaker 2: that's right.

1369
01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:58,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, they are looking into it. They are aware of

1370
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:00,360
Speaker 3: it and looking at into it.

1371
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:02,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1372
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 2: There you go on that, all right? So, g man,

1373
01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:09,760
Speaker 2: we have some winners and losers from the NFL Draft,

1374
01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:13,200
Speaker 2: Matt Miller of ESPN with this list. Do we have

1375
01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:15,960
Speaker 2: bet on in the lead up to the draft? I

1376
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:18,280
Speaker 2: don't remember having any. Yeah we did, yeah, the combine

1377
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:21,360
Speaker 2: maybe did we have? Yeah? But not not in direct

1378
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 2: lead up.

1379
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we had him like two weeks ago, didn't.

1380
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:24,720
Speaker 2: We did we? Really?

1381
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:26,160
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1382
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:27,200
Speaker 4: It was on a Monday.

1383
01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder if I was out spring break. Maybe

1384
01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:34,960
Speaker 2: I don't remember talking to him. All right, So he's

1385
01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:40,760
Speaker 2: got five of our guys on the list. Yes, who's

1386
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:42,520
Speaker 2: he got at number one? G Man?

1387
01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 5: He has Luther Burden from the Chicago Bears had him

1388
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:50,000
Speaker 5: ranked in his final ranking as the thirteenth best prospect.

1389
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:52,200
Speaker 5: The Bears got him with the thirty ninth overall pick.

1390
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:55,959
Speaker 5: He's got Will Johnson at two.

1391
01:06:56,960 --> 01:07:00,680
Speaker 2: Will Johnson's gonna be interesting. He was hurt at Michigan.

1392
01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 2: Had he not been hurt, he probably have been a

1393
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:05,680
Speaker 2: top five pick in the draft. But he did get hurt.

1394
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:07,040
Speaker 2: Where'd he end up.

1395
01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:11,880
Speaker 5: The Arizona Cardinals second second round, forty seventh overall pick

1396
01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:15,360
Speaker 5: had him ranked is his seventh ranked prospect over.

1397
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:17,280
Speaker 2: He kept him that high even despite the injuries.

1398
01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:22,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, and supposedly he's more of a like they love

1399
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:25,960
Speaker 3: the fit as well with it, Like they love that

1400
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:28,240
Speaker 3: he went to Arizona because it's more zone and that

1401
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:30,800
Speaker 3: fits his skills better. So that's one of the reasons

1402
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:35,000
Speaker 3: people really really love it. I mean all people thought

1403
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 3: he's going in the top ten, but then it was

1404
01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:41,479
Speaker 3: like they're concerns about his speed, yes, and a knee

1405
01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:42,040
Speaker 3: knee injury.

1406
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:45,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was because he was There were two or

1407
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:47,720
Speaker 2: three ninety nine's on the College Football video game to

1408
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:49,479
Speaker 2: start last year. He was one of them, was Sam

1409
01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 2: and Travis Hunter, and I can't remember who the third

1410
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:53,360
Speaker 2: ninety nine was, but there were a couple of them,

1411
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:55,920
Speaker 2: and he was absolutely one of them on that list.

1412
01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:01,440
Speaker 5: At three, he had genty. His final overall ranking for

1413
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:04,440
Speaker 5: genty was three, So I saw.

1414
01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:07,560
Speaker 2: He's gonna wear number two yep, with Arizona with Vegas.

1415
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:09,000
Speaker 2: So that's that'll look cool? Uh.

1416
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:12,880
Speaker 5: Jahad Campbell is his fourth best pick of the draft,

1417
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:14,880
Speaker 5: to the Eagles at thirty one overall.

1418
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:17,920
Speaker 4: Jalen Walker, I want to.

1419
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:21,400
Speaker 5: I want to ask you guys your opinion on some

1420
01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:23,240
Speaker 5: of these some of these teams.

1421
01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:24,760
Speaker 4: So we talked about genty at three.

1422
01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:27,559
Speaker 5: Yep, you think Ashton genty is a winner or a

1423
01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:30,439
Speaker 5: loser going to the Las Vegas Raiders absolute winner?

1424
01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:36,000
Speaker 2: Now state tax bell cow back behind? Uh he's a.

1425
01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:36,599
Speaker 3: Bell cow back.

1426
01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:42,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, Carrol's going to feed him to carries. Yeah. I

1427
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:45,719
Speaker 2: think he wins pretty big great there. Yeah, who wouldn't

1428
01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:48,879
Speaker 2: want to live in Vegas? Great place to live now,

1429
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:53,320
Speaker 2: state tax Yep, no home games, which is kind of weird.

1430
01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:57,360
Speaker 3: But I think maybe as they get an identity they'll

1431
01:08:57,439 --> 01:09:00,519
Speaker 3: have It's uphill, man, it is uphill. It's still always

1432
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:02,160
Speaker 3: going to be a very popular travel destination.

1433
01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:06,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, they went from one of the real home the

1434
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:11,760
Speaker 2: Black Homestone Stadium and advantages to none. I wonder if

1435
01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:14,439
Speaker 2: that'll happen with the A's too when they go there.

1436
01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:17,280
Speaker 2: Probably if that'll happen to them that they end up

1437
01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:19,080
Speaker 2: being Although who goes to Vegas in the summer.

1438
01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:21,839
Speaker 3: Here's the other thing. They weren't drawing in Oakland.

1439
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:26,439
Speaker 2: But wasn't that more about just the complete dissatisfaction with

1440
01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:27,479
Speaker 2: ownership part of it?

1441
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:29,920
Speaker 3: Yes, because that was at one point it was a hotbed,

1442
01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:32,439
Speaker 3: but that was like eighties and he had another run

1443
01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:33,719
Speaker 3: in like the early two thousands.

1444
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:36,960
Speaker 2: If you could redo it, is there a location in

1445
01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:39,400
Speaker 2: northern California where you would put the A's and they

1446
01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:40,200
Speaker 2: could have thrived?

1447
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:43,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, you just could have built them a new stadium

1448
01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:45,800
Speaker 3: in Oakland, Yeah, right where the current one is.

1449
01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:50,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, they tried. I mean they had all sorts of

1450
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:52,360
Speaker 2: things they were trying to do it just I don't know,

1451
01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:54,799
Speaker 2: couldn't get it done. But they also didn't have ownership

1452
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:56,800
Speaker 2: that was willing to write the check for the stadium, right.

1453
01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:59,200
Speaker 2: They wanted state funding. And once the Rams did it

1454
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:01,479
Speaker 2: without state funding, nobody in the state of California's gonna

1455
01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:04,880
Speaker 2: do it with funding again. Yeah, wait till the Lakers

1456
01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:07,400
Speaker 2: have to do something with Staples and they're gonna have

1457
01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:09,880
Speaker 2: to figure something out. Like that thing's twenty some years

1458
01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:10,599
Speaker 2: old now.

1459
01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:13,200
Speaker 3: And compared to the Into It Dome.

1460
01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:16,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, we were by there. That's crazy. That's right next

1461
01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:18,880
Speaker 2: to the football stadium. It's wild that those who are

1462
01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:20,160
Speaker 2: right next to each other in Inglewood.

1463
01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:24,559
Speaker 5: So, uh, another one. I wanted to ask you about

1464
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:28,320
Speaker 5: winner or loser? You think Jalen Milroe to the Seattle Seahawks.

1465
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:30,639
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean the go ahead.

1466
01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:32,439
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's a win or a loss.

1467
01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:34,040
Speaker 3: I think it's a little bit of an interesting fit

1468
01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:39,120
Speaker 3: with Clint Kubiak being the OC there, but he's in

1469
01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:40,960
Speaker 3: a place where there's no pressure on him to start.

1470
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:42,880
Speaker 3: He'll have time to develop, and you know, being behind

1471
01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:45,200
Speaker 3: Sam Darnold, I think is probably a good situation for him.

1472
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:47,960
Speaker 3: I also think Seattle is kind of like from a

1473
01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:50,599
Speaker 3: media standpoint, a relative like obscurity, so to allow him

1474
01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:52,240
Speaker 3: to kind of do his work without the pressure that

1475
01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:54,120
Speaker 3: would be on him if he was in New York,

1476
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:56,479
Speaker 3: for example. So I don't think it's a terrible area form.

1477
01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:58,599
Speaker 3: I don't know it's a winner a loss, you know.

1478
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:03,599
Speaker 2: I think McDonald's familiarity with Lamar and we'll be able

1479
01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:06,519
Speaker 2: if there are skill similar skill sets sure that the

1480
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:09,400
Speaker 2: two have. He could relay that to Kubiak the way

1481
01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:13,599
Speaker 2: that Monkin built Baltimore. So if there is, what Milroe

1482
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:15,840
Speaker 2: was is of the quarterbacks who did not go in

1483
01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:18,160
Speaker 2: the first round, which there weren't, I mean, in the

1484
01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:21,040
Speaker 2: quarterbacks not named cam Ward Milroe. I think for most

1485
01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:24,320
Speaker 2: people had potentially the highest ceiling. He had a long

1486
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:26,800
Speaker 2: road to get to that ceiling. But the physical attributes

1487
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:30,760
Speaker 2: were pretty real. His arms big, his legs are real,

1488
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 2: all of that. So in the right spot, and that

1489
01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:37,120
Speaker 2: might be it. Because Darnold's gonna play for the next

1490
01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:41,719
Speaker 2: three years minimum, so chill learn how to be a pro.

1491
01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:45,280
Speaker 2: He's kind of the poster child, along with quinn Ewers,

1492
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:48,280
Speaker 2: of what would have happened had they just stayed. There's

1493
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:50,360
Speaker 2: actually a story I think it was in The Athletic

1494
01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:52,360
Speaker 2: this weekend on quinn Ers and his fall to the

1495
01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:54,840
Speaker 2: seventh round and like how his agent thought he'd be

1496
01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:56,720
Speaker 2: a second round pick, and then there was all this

1497
01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:59,200
Speaker 2: talk that part of the reason he fell, similar to Schaduur,

1498
01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:01,439
Speaker 2: was like, if you're going to be a clipboard holder,

1499
01:12:01,479 --> 01:12:03,840
Speaker 2: can you handle that with a name that big? And

1500
01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:05,840
Speaker 2: that was part of the reason that he fell. But

1501
01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:08,599
Speaker 2: the Queenyers being a seventh round picks pretty crazy wild

1502
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:09,360
Speaker 2: when do you think about it?

1503
01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:12,840
Speaker 3: Listen, then if you're Mike McDaniel, great, get a guy

1504
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:15,479
Speaker 3: that's a very good ball of clay. Yeah, that you

1505
01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:18,719
Speaker 3: can try to coach your way who has been probably

1506
01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:21,720
Speaker 3: would be very open to being coached to fall into

1507
01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:22,479
Speaker 3: the seventh round.

1508
01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:25,080
Speaker 2: Well right, I mean and he went, you know, and

1509
01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:28,400
Speaker 2: so he had Ryan Day for three months and then

1510
01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:30,760
Speaker 2: he had Sark. It was pretty damn good offensive mind

1511
01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:34,040
Speaker 2: and of himself. So like, yeah, it's interesting, but he

1512
01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:36,360
Speaker 2: could have made six to seven million playing college football

1513
01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:38,679
Speaker 2: last year and decided to go to the NFL instead.

1514
01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:39,559
Speaker 2: Go ahead, g Man.

1515
01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:43,760
Speaker 5: Another one was Omari and Hampton to the Chargers, a

1516
01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:45,960
Speaker 5: pick that I kind of thought was interesting just because

1517
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:49,800
Speaker 5: they signed Najie Harris. But I it's the more you

1518
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:51,599
Speaker 5: hear about it, it kind of sounds like they're trying

1519
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:54,320
Speaker 5: to do the Lions thing where they've got you know,

1520
01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:57,559
Speaker 5: Sonic and Knuckles or whatever they call it. With how

1521
01:12:57,560 --> 01:13:01,160
Speaker 5: they did Mikey Gibbs.

1522
01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:04,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think that's an interesting one. It is

1523
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:08,719
Speaker 2: a copycat league. I'm just pulling up the Chargers depth chart.

1524
01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:12,840
Speaker 4: And they put that on JK. Dobbins too.

1525
01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:15,000
Speaker 3: This is going to be all la Mario Hampton. He

1526
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:17,840
Speaker 3: is going to get every opportunity to be the absolute

1527
01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:20,240
Speaker 3: hammer for Jim Hartin.

1528
01:13:20,439 --> 01:13:22,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, they gave him number eight, so they will. So

1529
01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:24,439
Speaker 2: they have him. They actually already have him penciled in

1530
01:13:24,479 --> 01:13:26,480
Speaker 2: as the starter, the backup.

1531
01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:31,240
Speaker 3: Now as you got three million dollars. Yeah, now Hampton

1532
01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:33,400
Speaker 3: is going to be that. He is going to be

1533
01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:33,960
Speaker 3: the guy.

1534
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:36,559
Speaker 2: So they got Lad McConkie. They took Trey Harris in

1535
01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:37,760
Speaker 2: the second round this year it.

1536
01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:42,719
Speaker 3: Was big Mike Williams. They brought Mike Williams back, must

1537
01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:46,080
Speaker 3: have yeah, yes they did. He's got to stay healthy

1538
01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:48,840
Speaker 3: and it's weird. He really didn't do much anywhere else.

1539
01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:51,920
Speaker 2: No, Yeah, but you see what they're trying to do.

1540
01:13:54,479 --> 01:13:57,439
Speaker 2: It makes sense what they're trying to do there. Yeah,

1541
01:13:58,400 --> 01:13:59,040
Speaker 2: you got another one.

1542
01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 5: Uh, we can just touch real quickly on what Matt

1543
01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:03,840
Speaker 5: Miller had.

1544
01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 2: So he had five of our guys. He had Chuduur

1545
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:10,160
Speaker 2: at number ten, Mason Graham at twenty three, Quinchewn Judkins

1546
01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:13,280
Speaker 2: at forty one, and then Dylan Sampson at forty four,

1547
01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:16,240
Speaker 2: and Carson Swessinger at fifty three. Have we sorted out

1548
01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:17,880
Speaker 2: our numbers yet? The rookie numbers?

1549
01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:20,840
Speaker 4: I think Graham's wearing ninety four. I think that's all

1550
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:21,160
Speaker 4: we know.

1551
01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:25,080
Speaker 2: Mason Grahams were in ninety four. Yes, okay, yeah, we

1552
01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:27,080
Speaker 2: haven't because a lot of the other teams in the

1553
01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:29,400
Speaker 2: league have already done it. Yeah, Like the Steelers have

1554
01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:31,920
Speaker 2: Will Howard in eighteen already, and they got Jack or

1555
01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:35,360
Speaker 2: Jack Sawyer in thirty three. But I haven't seen anything

1556
01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:37,799
Speaker 2: from us yet in terms of I know that Kevin

1557
01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:41,040
Speaker 2: is usually pretty specific about those single digits not going

1558
01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:44,840
Speaker 2: to rookies unless veterans don't want them. So there's you know,

1559
01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:45,320
Speaker 2: kind of.

1560
01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:48,680
Speaker 3: All that interesting to watch the Yeah, well two's available.

1561
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:49,760
Speaker 2: Eight's available.

1562
01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:53,000
Speaker 3: If they get a single widget, then you know that

1563
01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:57,000
Speaker 3: it's going to be okay. Like if they get a

1564
01:14:57,000 --> 01:14:59,720
Speaker 3: single digit, that was always you know that rookie is

1565
01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:00,679
Speaker 3: going to that number.

1566
01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:05,040
Speaker 2: That was always my feeling on at Ohio State if

1567
01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:08,519
Speaker 2: was which kids did they give single digits to? Those

1568
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:12,120
Speaker 2: are the ones they love? Yeah, love them. So anytime

1569
01:15:12,160 --> 01:15:14,479
Speaker 2: I see like someone at Ohio State like kind of

1570
01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:17,559
Speaker 2: bust through and they're wearing an odd number, like Joshua

1571
01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:19,840
Speaker 2: Perry or for example, where like thirty seven or like

1572
01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:25,599
Speaker 2: Tyvis Ward, twenty three, you know like that's they're given that. Yeah,

1573
01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:27,599
Speaker 2: twenty three is a pretty cool number, but like number

1574
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:30,080
Speaker 2: you wanted to be a single digit? So available for

1575
01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:35,360
Speaker 2: US one is available, two is available, eight is available,

1576
01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:42,320
Speaker 2: twelve is available, sixteen is available, seventeen is available. Those

1577
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:44,200
Speaker 2: are the single digits and teens. So we have quite

1578
01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:44,479
Speaker 2: a few.

1579
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:46,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, we got some. I'm curious to see the way

1580
01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:47,800
Speaker 3: that it goes. That's what I am.

1581
01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:49,960
Speaker 2: I would assume Dylan would wear eight. He wore that

1582
01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:53,760
Speaker 2: at Oregon, provided a veteran doesn't want it. The big

1583
01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:56,000
Speaker 2: question will be around two, which is obviously a coveted

1584
01:15:56,080 --> 01:15:58,240
Speaker 2: number and should or war it in college? So how

1585
01:15:58,240 --> 01:16:01,679
Speaker 2: does all that work? And Sean wore one at Ohio State.

1586
01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:03,439
Speaker 2: I misspoke last week I had him in two a

1587
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:04,840
Speaker 2: Mecca war two, he wore one.

1588
01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:07,240
Speaker 3: I think he won were four at Ole miss five

1589
01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:08,800
Speaker 3: five is available?

1590
01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:09,640
Speaker 2: Five is available?

1591
01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:11,160
Speaker 3: I think that's what he said. There was a video

1592
01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:13,040
Speaker 3: where he was talking to Cory about it about what

1593
01:16:13,080 --> 01:16:15,599
Speaker 3: one yeah, and basically it was like, all right, give

1594
01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:17,760
Speaker 3: me your backup when they give him a single disjasay, okay,

1595
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:19,759
Speaker 3: give me a give me a back give me another one.

1596
01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:23,280
Speaker 3: I think Fannin took eighty nine in that video or

1597
01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:24,000
Speaker 3: asked for it.

1598
01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:25,519
Speaker 2: Asked for it maybe yeah?

1599
01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:28,599
Speaker 3: Or eighty eight. Is eighty eight available? I think it's

1600
01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:28,920
Speaker 3: in there.

1601
01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:30,560
Speaker 2: I always like eighty eight. I think eighty eight is

1602
01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:35,479
Speaker 2: pretty cool. Looks like twenty two is available. You're not

1603
01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:38,400
Speaker 2: going to give twenty four to anybody. Twenty five would

1604
01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:42,320
Speaker 2: be available, twenty seven and then you start then it

1605
01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:44,680
Speaker 2: starts to slip off. So yeah, those are kind of

1606
01:16:44,720 --> 01:16:46,599
Speaker 2: the ones that are out there. So hopefully we get

1607
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:49,320
Speaker 2: ours done pretty soon. And we have to get that

1608
01:16:49,320 --> 01:16:51,880
Speaker 2: done pretty soon in terms of releasing those numbers. All right,

1609
01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:53,720
Speaker 2: we'll take a look at the Browns defense and in

1610
01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:55,840
Speaker 2: depth look at the Browns defense. Coming up next is

1611
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1614
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1617
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Speaker 2: All right Rookie Minicamps set to begin later on this week.

1618
01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:32,800
Speaker 2: It's beginning around the league at certain spots already. Time

1619
01:17:32,840 --> 01:17:36,280
Speaker 2: to take an in depth look at the Browns defense now,

1620
01:17:36,479 --> 01:17:40,080
Speaker 2: and boy, on paper, this looks pretty dang good. There's

1621
01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:42,479
Speaker 2: not a whole lot that needs to be added to

1622
01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:45,559
Speaker 2: any of these rooms. Let's start up front, so we'll

1623
01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:48,000
Speaker 2: go kind of inverted on the way this is, and

1624
01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:50,720
Speaker 2: let's start on the line of scrimmage at defensive end,

1625
01:17:50,760 --> 01:17:53,480
Speaker 2: where quite honestly, we have a lot of dudes, Buddy.

1626
01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:59,600
Speaker 3: We've got right now, one, two, three, four, five, And

1627
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:02,679
Speaker 3: then they find Oquara as well, and cam Thomas played

1628
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:04,840
Speaker 3: very well for them last year, and as did Ellison Smith.

1629
01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:07,160
Speaker 3: So I think right now you've got I think five

1630
01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:10,280
Speaker 3: is going to be the final number. I think Garrett McGuire,

1631
01:18:10,439 --> 01:18:13,920
Speaker 3: Alex Wright, and Joe Tryon Shoyinka are probably locks. Obo

1632
01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:17,400
Speaker 3: feels kind of like a lock and Oquara, So maybe Obo,

1633
01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:20,920
Speaker 3: Oquara and Tryon Shoyinka are competing for three guys for

1634
01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:21,720
Speaker 3: two spots there.

1635
01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:23,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would you give you five of them?

1636
01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:25,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's going to be five.

1637
01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:29,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's five d ns yep.

1638
01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:32,000
Speaker 3: And I think we'll be five on the interior as well.

1639
01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:36,000
Speaker 3: You've got Juwan Briggs, Mason Graham, Mike Hall, Shelby Harris,

1640
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:38,400
Speaker 3: and Elik Collins. They like Sam Kamara as well, so

1641
01:18:38,439 --> 01:18:40,080
Speaker 3: maybe he's going to try to compete with somebody for

1642
01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:42,280
Speaker 3: a spot there. But you know, maybe Kamara can take

1643
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:44,840
Speaker 3: Shelby spot. But I it feels like that's the five

1644
01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:46,519
Speaker 3: to me. So that's ten on the D line.

1645
01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:50,160
Speaker 2: Paul and Graham. I mean Graham a rookie obviously, so

1646
01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:51,960
Speaker 2: you hope that. I mean he's a fifth pick up

1647
01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:53,679
Speaker 2: in the drafts. You need him to be a dude, yep.

1648
01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:57,320
Speaker 2: If my call can play to what his potential is,

1649
01:18:57,880 --> 01:18:59,200
Speaker 2: then this has a potential.

1650
01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:02,640
Speaker 3: To be dominant for you. Yeah, yeah, for years. So

1651
01:19:02,720 --> 01:19:03,479
Speaker 3: that's five there.

1652
01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:06,559
Speaker 2: So you got ten so far. Linebacker room.

1653
01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:10,040
Speaker 3: This one's so hard to know. Jordan Hicks, yes, you know,

1654
01:19:10,080 --> 01:19:15,559
Speaker 3: probably Jerome Baker, Swassinger is a yes. That's three. We

1655
01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:18,240
Speaker 3: don't know about j Okay. We don't know about how

1656
01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:21,040
Speaker 3: Devin Bush, you know what's come out today, how that

1657
01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:25,160
Speaker 3: could potentially affect his roster spot. But those are two that,

1658
01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:28,760
Speaker 3: all things being equal, would absolutely be on the roster.

1659
01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:31,600
Speaker 3: That would give you five. And then you'd have you know, Diabate,

1660
01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:35,320
Speaker 3: Watson Reed for another spot. But my guess is do

1661
01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:37,800
Speaker 3: you try to get away with five here? So right

1662
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:41,120
Speaker 3: now you would have Hicks, Swessinger, Baker, Diabate, and then

1663
01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:44,439
Speaker 3: Watson or Reed, and then Bush obviously would get his

1664
01:19:44,439 --> 01:19:49,640
Speaker 3: spot if he's exonerated, and then Jokay, we just don't know.

1665
01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:51,200
Speaker 3: This is one that where we don't know. But my

1666
01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:53,040
Speaker 3: guess is this is going to be five or six.

1667
01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:56,920
Speaker 2: It's so strange on jok too, because it's not only

1668
01:19:56,960 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 2: do we not know, but there hasn't been anything in forever.

1669
01:20:00,720 --> 01:20:01,560
Speaker 3: It's nebulous.

1670
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:05,400
Speaker 2: It is, it's all you hear, and you just like

1671
01:20:05,640 --> 01:20:09,160
Speaker 2: it's at some point you know you you want obviously

1672
01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:12,080
Speaker 2: you want his health and his personal health and all

1673
01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:14,880
Speaker 2: of it, but it's they must I viewed, and I

1674
01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:16,599
Speaker 2: know that they pushed back on it, but I viewed

1675
01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:20,280
Speaker 2: the Sweassinger pick as not only incredibly high value in

1676
01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:24,800
Speaker 2: getting someone that good, but also, you know, this maybe

1677
01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:26,760
Speaker 2: not looking the best from the JAO. Now they push

1678
01:20:26,840 --> 01:20:28,680
Speaker 2: back on that, but at the same time, like it's

1679
01:20:28,720 --> 01:20:30,600
Speaker 2: been a long time where we've been kind of in

1680
01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:32,280
Speaker 2: this Nowherresville with j Okay.

1681
01:20:32,880 --> 01:20:37,040
Speaker 3: He's here, he's working out, so those are good signs,

1682
01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:42,680
Speaker 3: but at the same point, it feels like we just

1683
01:20:42,720 --> 01:20:45,559
Speaker 3: don't know, and so that part of it is very,

1684
01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:48,400
Speaker 3: very tough. I mean, right now, if you're going to

1685
01:20:48,439 --> 01:20:49,840
Speaker 3: say we were a Day one star, I mean maybe

1686
01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:53,360
Speaker 3: it's Hicks and Sweessinger. You know Baker's kind of j

1687
01:20:53,439 --> 01:20:57,799
Speaker 3: ok Ish in his skill set, yes, yeah, then diabat

1688
01:20:57,960 --> 01:21:00,439
Speaker 3: wattson those are two bigger guys, but specialty. My guess

1689
01:21:00,439 --> 01:21:02,080
Speaker 3: is you're gonna end up meaning six here. But what

1690
01:21:02,120 --> 01:21:03,920
Speaker 3: that looks like, I just don't know.

1691
01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:08,320
Speaker 2: Baker's Benedictine, I think, yeah, Benedictine, Yeah, yep.

1692
01:21:09,439 --> 01:21:12,880
Speaker 3: So if you went six there, that's sixteen and you're

1693
01:21:12,880 --> 01:21:15,120
Speaker 3: gonna at least be ten in the DBS. Which would

1694
01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:16,320
Speaker 3: be twenty six, which is fine.

1695
01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:20,400
Speaker 2: So we'll get to the corners in a second. The

1696
01:21:20,439 --> 01:21:25,240
Speaker 2: safety room, Delpit, Hickman, Edmunds, Dean, and Miles Harden are

1697
01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:28,479
Speaker 2: the ones in there. Ronnie Hickman needs to come well,

1698
01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:30,040
Speaker 2: because right now he's started.

1699
01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:33,040
Speaker 3: He's starting. So Delpit's your strong safety, Hickman's your free safety.

1700
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:35,519
Speaker 3: This is where I think this is a definite plus one.

1701
01:21:35,640 --> 01:21:39,960
Speaker 3: Miles Harden's a corner unless they've moved him, which would

1702
01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:42,920
Speaker 3: be a designation I was unaware of. Chris Edmonds was

1703
01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:44,800
Speaker 3: an undrafted free agent last year. To me, this is

1704
01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:47,320
Speaker 3: where you need to add a veteran and I wonder

1705
01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:49,040
Speaker 3: if they keep I mean they got to keep four

1706
01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:51,640
Speaker 3: safeties would be my guess. There are only two that

1707
01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:53,160
Speaker 3: I'd say are locks on this roster.

1708
01:21:55,080 --> 01:21:57,880
Speaker 2: Is there any safety left in free agency that we have?

1709
01:21:58,000 --> 01:22:01,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Julian Blackman's out there. Oh yeah, several,

1710
01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:05,000
Speaker 3: There are many, yes, but I think that's something you're

1711
01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:07,960
Speaker 3: gonna want to get, yeah, sooner rather than later.

1712
01:22:08,600 --> 01:22:10,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was all those corners at the top of

1713
01:22:10,240 --> 01:22:13,320
Speaker 2: the rankings. But then yes, there were several safeties were

1714
01:22:13,360 --> 01:22:16,080
Speaker 2: kind of in the back end of it. So that's

1715
01:22:16,160 --> 01:22:18,640
Speaker 2: that's something to watch as the summer goes along in

1716
01:22:18,640 --> 01:22:19,480
Speaker 2: his opportunity.

1717
01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:21,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then I think in corner you've got you know,

1718
01:22:21,960 --> 01:22:26,640
Speaker 3: Ward Newsome, Mitchell Emerson, Tony Brown for special teams. They

1719
01:22:26,760 --> 01:22:28,439
Speaker 3: made a priority bring him back. And then you've got Nick

1720
01:22:28,520 --> 01:22:30,920
Speaker 3: Needham who's a veteran Anthony Kendall chick as a nusium

1721
01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:33,040
Speaker 3: who they signed off of I think the Washington PreK

1722
01:22:33,080 --> 01:22:35,360
Speaker 3: squad and kept him on the roster all year last year.

1723
01:22:35,439 --> 01:22:37,400
Speaker 3: And then Miles Harden that they drafted a year ago.

1724
01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:42,799
Speaker 2: So it gets you to twenty six on defense, twenty

1725
01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:47,320
Speaker 2: five on offense, twenty four on offense, and then the specialists.

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01:22:47,720 --> 01:22:54,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting, it's a it's it's interesting there are

1727
01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:58,720
Speaker 3: like that the starters on defense outside of just the

1728
01:22:58,760 --> 01:23:03,760
Speaker 3: linebacker room because we it's a health related thing. Are

1729
01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:07,360
Speaker 3: You're in a pretty good spot right, Your defensive lines

1730
01:23:07,400 --> 01:23:10,320
Speaker 3: are in a great spot, like great spot. I think

1731
01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:13,240
Speaker 3: your corner corners in a great spot. Safety, I think

1732
01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:15,240
Speaker 3: you need one more. And then linebacker you just have questions.

1733
01:23:15,320 --> 01:23:17,120
Speaker 3: You just have questions. You have Jok's question. Then we

1734
01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:19,840
Speaker 3: now in light of what's happened with Devin Bush, you know,

1735
01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:21,120
Speaker 3: there's a question there as well.

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01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:23,840
Speaker 2: So this summer in terms of you know, kind of

1737
01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:26,160
Speaker 2: positions that you could you probably feel like you could

1738
01:23:26,200 --> 01:23:29,400
Speaker 2: add two if opportunity presents, and just need to add too.

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01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:31,200
Speaker 2: Safety you would be at the top of that list. Yes,

1740
01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:33,160
Speaker 2: wide receiver would be at the top of that list.

1741
01:23:33,200 --> 01:23:35,360
Speaker 2: I think you need to add another name, and I

1742
01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:37,640
Speaker 2: would like them to add an another player there. What

1743
01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:39,040
Speaker 2: did we settle on in terms of the name of

1744
01:23:39,120 --> 01:23:40,759
Speaker 2: number of wide receivers? Did you say five?

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01:23:41,160 --> 01:23:43,080
Speaker 3: That's what it feels like to me. I mean, I

1746
01:23:43,120 --> 01:23:45,000
Speaker 3: don't know. It just depends how many you go a

1747
01:23:45,080 --> 01:23:46,960
Speaker 3: quarterback and receiver. I mean, obviously you cauld always end

1748
01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:50,759
Speaker 3: up with six. But if Deontay Johnson is Deontay Johnson

1749
01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:54,000
Speaker 3: and you're good there, it's Judy Tilman, Deontay Johnson, and

1750
01:23:54,040 --> 01:23:57,439
Speaker 3: DeAndre Carter. Now, history has said that whoever the Browns

1751
01:23:57,439 --> 01:23:59,439
Speaker 3: are bringing to be a return specialist does not make

1752
01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:01,639
Speaker 3: it to the regular So we're hoping not on wood.

1753
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:03,160
Speaker 2: You know that has been the case for a while.

1754
01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:05,639
Speaker 3: It doesn't happen for DeAndre Carter because I think that's

1755
01:24:05,680 --> 01:24:07,960
Speaker 3: where that's where he would fit in certainly.

1756
01:24:08,520 --> 01:24:11,000
Speaker 2: And then the other would be tackle if something presents

1757
01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:13,080
Speaker 2: themselves there, but usually there aren't many of those guys

1758
01:24:13,120 --> 01:24:13,479
Speaker 2: out there.

1759
01:24:13,520 --> 01:24:15,519
Speaker 3: And if there's a third tight end that they could

1760
01:24:16,360 --> 01:24:18,840
Speaker 3: get excited about, I think that's something. But that's like

1761
01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:21,080
Speaker 3: a you know that's a minor position, a guy that's

1762
01:24:21,080 --> 01:24:23,280
Speaker 3: a really good blocker, but then also can play you know,

1763
01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:26,160
Speaker 3: special teams. That could be something that they would be

1764
01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:27,679
Speaker 3: interested in as well.

1765
01:24:27,720 --> 01:24:31,040
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you something else there is. It's going

1766
01:24:31,080 --> 01:24:35,519
Speaker 2: to be a very different rookie mini camp. It's going

1767
01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:39,320
Speaker 2: to be a very different mandatory mini camp. For Kevin Stefanski,

1768
01:24:39,439 --> 01:24:41,720
Speaker 2: he's never had one like this. No, I don't see

1769
01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:43,679
Speaker 2: this much in the NFL, where you've got a bunch

1770
01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:45,840
Speaker 2: of guys that need to work in you have a

1771
01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:49,559
Speaker 2: blank slate at quarterback, truly blank slate. I mean, none

1772
01:24:49,560 --> 01:24:51,960
Speaker 2: of the guys that are here that are going to compete.

1773
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:52,880
Speaker 2: We're here last year.

1774
01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:58,080
Speaker 3: So I've gotten I've heard that this is going to

1775
01:24:58,120 --> 01:25:02,960
Speaker 3: be a highly populated rookie mini camp because remember you

1776
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:05,120
Speaker 3: can have like first year players can be there. Yeah,

1777
01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:06,920
Speaker 3: you have tryouts. I think it is going to be

1778
01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:08,760
Speaker 3: highly populated. And one of the reasons I think that

1779
01:25:08,880 --> 01:25:10,880
Speaker 3: is because two of them are quarterbacks. You were going

1780
01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:12,800
Speaker 3: to want to be able to do something for seven

1781
01:25:12,840 --> 01:25:15,240
Speaker 3: on seven and eleven on eleven stuff. So I think

1782
01:25:15,240 --> 01:25:17,400
Speaker 3: this will be This is going to be a far

1783
01:25:17,439 --> 01:25:19,360
Speaker 3: cry from a few years ago where there were more

1784
01:25:19,400 --> 01:25:22,040
Speaker 3: coaches than players out there by position.

1785
01:25:22,600 --> 01:25:23,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1786
01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:24,720
Speaker 3: I mean we had a Rooki mini campore. I think

1787
01:25:24,720 --> 01:25:28,920
Speaker 3: we had like five six players. Oh yeah, like where

1788
01:25:28,960 --> 01:25:33,360
Speaker 3: the offensive line Dewan was just Rooker working with Doe.

1789
01:25:33,800 --> 01:25:37,840
Speaker 3: So we've had for a while that situation. This is

1790
01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:39,320
Speaker 3: not going to be that. I think this is going

1791
01:25:39,360 --> 01:25:42,320
Speaker 3: to be heavily attended and will be a lot of

1792
01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:44,519
Speaker 3: people there so that you can get some real looks.

1793
01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:47,559
Speaker 2: I do think that obviously there is there are some

1794
01:25:47,720 --> 01:25:51,320
Speaker 2: challenges with this roster, and this is a transition phase.

1795
01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:53,720
Speaker 2: His ownership has said, as Andrew Berry has said, I

1796
01:25:53,720 --> 01:25:55,080
Speaker 2: do think this will be a shot in the arm

1797
01:25:55,080 --> 01:25:57,800
Speaker 2: for Kevin and the coaches. I think there's there's some

1798
01:25:58,200 --> 01:26:02,479
Speaker 2: a great deal of excitement to mold this the way

1799
01:26:02,479 --> 01:26:05,920
Speaker 2: that they want to. And I would imagine a rookie

1800
01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:12,080
Speaker 2: mini camp with twenty guys running around converse with you know, five.

1801
01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:14,880
Speaker 3: I think it could be it could be more could

1802
01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:16,040
Speaker 3: be double that.

1803
01:26:16,040 --> 01:26:18,639
Speaker 2: That'd be awesome. A lot of you gotta see.

1804
01:26:19,080 --> 01:26:21,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's a way to get reps for your quarterbacks.

1805
01:26:21,160 --> 01:26:22,120
Speaker 3: There he is Tony Brown.

1806
01:26:22,200 --> 01:26:22,960
Speaker 2: Speak of that guy.

1807
01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:26,479
Speaker 3: Say his name and he appears the great Tony Brown.

1808
01:26:26,840 --> 01:26:31,439
Speaker 2: You need you need to see Gabriel and Sanders spin

1809
01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:35,360
Speaker 2: it a lot. Yeah, cruising around to get the man. Man.

1810
01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:36,599
Speaker 2: It looks great.

1811
01:26:38,040 --> 01:26:40,120
Speaker 3: Barefoot out there, and he's loving it.

1812
01:26:40,400 --> 01:26:42,639
Speaker 2: You barefoot guy or you sack guy around the house slippers,

1813
01:26:42,640 --> 01:26:43,080
Speaker 2: What do you do?

1814
01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:46,439
Speaker 3: So we take our shoes off?

1815
01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:47,320
Speaker 2: Same?

1816
01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:52,400
Speaker 3: I like to get barefoot me too, Yeah, and the bat.

1817
01:26:52,479 --> 01:26:55,360
Speaker 3: I have an ug house slipper that I'll throw on

1818
01:26:55,400 --> 01:26:56,000
Speaker 3: if it's cold.

1819
01:26:56,439 --> 01:26:58,639
Speaker 2: Same we have, we have an exact same.

1820
01:26:58,800 --> 01:27:00,280
Speaker 3: I don't like sitting around in a side.

1821
01:27:00,680 --> 01:27:04,400
Speaker 2: I cannot stand a sock. No if as soon as

1822
01:27:04,400 --> 01:27:07,120
Speaker 2: it comes on, as soon as I'm in for the night.

1823
01:27:07,200 --> 01:27:09,080
Speaker 3: They're off a lot of times where I walk in

1824
01:27:10,360 --> 01:27:12,240
Speaker 3: like that's where we have kind of like our cubbies

1825
01:27:12,280 --> 01:27:15,400
Speaker 3: and jackets and shoes and all that. There's the washer

1826
01:27:15,439 --> 01:27:17,320
Speaker 3: and dryer right there, so a lot of times so

1827
01:27:17,360 --> 01:27:19,560
Speaker 3: that I don't just end up in sock when I

1828
01:27:19,600 --> 01:27:22,040
Speaker 3: take the shoe off. I'll just socks right into the washer.

1829
01:27:22,720 --> 01:27:24,920
Speaker 2: I like that move. Yeah, just just be done with it.

1830
01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:27,160
Speaker 2: I can't stand well not put them on again. So

1831
01:27:27,479 --> 01:27:29,200
Speaker 2: I see my kid, the boys, they'll walk around in

1832
01:27:29,240 --> 01:27:30,160
Speaker 2: the socks. I'm like, what do you do?

1833
01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:32,479
Speaker 3: Feel on your toes?

1834
01:27:32,600 --> 01:27:34,760
Speaker 2: Can't stand it? Let them breathe boys, It gives me

1835
01:27:34,800 --> 01:27:37,720
Speaker 2: like that. I don't like the sound of carpet with

1836
01:27:37,800 --> 01:27:38,400
Speaker 2: socks either.

1837
01:27:39,000 --> 01:27:40,719
Speaker 3: Are you all carpet everywhere? Are you carpet?

1838
01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:43,479
Speaker 2: Quite a bit of hard way, but still like what

1839
01:27:43,800 --> 01:27:45,160
Speaker 2: like the basement's carpet, by.

1840
01:27:45,080 --> 01:27:46,320
Speaker 3: The way, And I like when you get a nice

1841
01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:47,120
Speaker 3: plush carb.

1842
01:27:47,160 --> 01:27:49,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally get in there. You can feel it move

1843
01:27:49,520 --> 01:27:51,080
Speaker 2: around a little bit. Yeah, all right, there you go.

1844
01:27:51,160 --> 01:27:55,800
Speaker 3: Rookie Blue works socks with like thongs or flip flops is.

1845
01:27:56,000 --> 01:27:56,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, we call them.

1846
01:27:56,720 --> 01:27:58,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, but a thong is different than a flip flop.

1847
01:27:58,840 --> 01:28:01,559
Speaker 2: It is. And I well we called them that is

1848
01:28:01,720 --> 01:28:03,840
Speaker 2: where I grew up. What we called them thongs too.

1849
01:28:03,760 --> 01:28:04,719
Speaker 3: Because it is the thought.

1850
01:28:04,720 --> 01:28:04,920
Speaker 2: It is.

1851
01:28:05,040 --> 01:28:09,040
Speaker 3: It's what even inspired the other the undergarment. Correct.

1852
01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:13,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, same, yeah, so much more to come you listen.

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Speaker 3: All Right, there you go, kids.

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01:29:00,720 --> 01:29:03,559
Speaker 2: Hopefully it stays dry this afternoon, although I know there's

1860
01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:06,160
Speaker 2: some thundershowers in the forecast, but hopefully it stays dry

1861
01:29:06,200 --> 01:29:06,599
Speaker 2: out there.

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01:29:06,800 --> 01:29:08,720
Speaker 3: It looks raining right now.

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01:29:08,800 --> 01:29:10,680
Speaker 2: Oh it is, isn't it. Oh my god, I just

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Speaker 2: looked out raining right now. God Almighty, Rookie Minnie can't

1865
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Speaker 2: get kid here quick enough. That'll be on Thursday of

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