WEBVTT - Desperately Devoted to Minneapolis 0:00:02.200 --> 0:00:03.600 Welcome to Desperately Devoted. 0:00:03.800 --> 0:00:06.400 Think of us as your favorite neighbors as we chat 0:00:06.440 --> 0:00:08.520 about life and relationships, all. 0:00:08.440 --> 0:00:11.719 While we revisit the iconic show Desperate Housewives together. 0:00:11.880 --> 0:00:16.320 I'm Terry Hatcher, I'm Andrea Bowen, and I'm Emerson Tenny. Hey, everyone, 0:00:16.760 --> 0:00:20.079 we hope this finds you well. So we started doing 0:00:20.160 --> 0:00:23.599 this Desperately Devoted podcast because we knew that the fans 0:00:23.640 --> 0:00:26.960 of the show were like community. We feel like family, 0:00:27.400 --> 0:00:30.159 and sharing stories from the show and themes from the 0:00:30.200 --> 0:00:32.920 show has been our way to connect with you, to 0:00:33.000 --> 0:00:37.720 share joy. But we're coming on here today because it's 0:00:37.760 --> 0:00:41.760 a really special episode for us because something important is 0:00:41.840 --> 0:00:44.400 happening in our country and we don't feel like we 0:00:44.440 --> 0:00:48.879 can ignore it. It's very strange to not come on 0:00:48.960 --> 0:00:51.720 here and acknowledge it, and so we wanted to do 0:00:51.840 --> 0:00:56.800 that with you, especially since some of our family, Ricardo 0:00:56.920 --> 0:01:01.000 Shavera and James Detton are right smack in the middle 0:01:01.040 --> 0:01:06.080 of the heart of Minneapolis. We are witnessing acts that 0:01:06.120 --> 0:01:09.839 are illegal and horrifying, and I'm going to have trouble 0:01:09.920 --> 0:01:18.280 not crying. Heartbreaking, really really heartbreaking, And so I think, 0:01:18.400 --> 0:01:22.760 as any good neighbor would do, and we'd like to 0:01:22.760 --> 0:01:26.360 think of ourselves as good neighbors on Wisteria Lane, no 0:01:26.360 --> 0:01:28.319 matter what kind of crazy stuff we get up to. 0:01:30.480 --> 0:01:33.280 It was important to us to just, you know, ground 0:01:33.319 --> 0:01:37.120 this and have a reality check with some of the 0:01:37.120 --> 0:01:40.360 people we love and care about and see how things 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:44.119 are going in their community, and most importantly, learn what 0:01:44.160 --> 0:01:48.160 we can do to be supportive, to be supportive neighbors. 0:01:48.240 --> 0:01:51.800 So far in twenty twenty six, the news cycle has 0:01:51.880 --> 0:01:56.920 been dominated by controversy and public outcry tied to a 0:01:57.000 --> 0:02:02.320 large scale federal immigration enforcement action in Minnesota that authorities 0:02:02.360 --> 0:02:07.440 are calling Operation Metro Surge. ICE and Border Patrol agents 0:02:07.520 --> 0:02:11.280 have been on the streets of Minneapolis allegedly in search 0:02:11.360 --> 0:02:13.119 of undocumented immigrants. 0:02:13.520 --> 0:02:18.079 Local and national protests around the operation have greatly escalated 0:02:18.200 --> 0:02:22.080 after the two recent fatal shootings by ICE officials. On 0:02:22.160 --> 0:02:25.160 January seventh, Renee Good, a thirty seven year old US 0:02:25.200 --> 0:02:28.880 citizen and mother, was shot and killed by a US 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:33.440 Immigration and Customs Enforcement ICE agents, and then again on 0:02:33.560 --> 0:02:37.280 January twenty fourth, Alex Pretty, also thirty seven, and an 0:02:37.480 --> 0:02:42.400 ICU nurse, was fatally shot. It feels very important to 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:46.200 us to say their names and find out what we 0:02:46.240 --> 0:02:51.960 can do to help where we can. And so this 0:02:52.080 --> 0:02:55.240 leads us into today, and we are so lucky and 0:02:55.280 --> 0:02:58.440 grateful to have both Ricardo and Jamie here with us. 0:02:58.520 --> 0:03:02.160 Hi, guys, welcome Should I be saying welcome back? And 0:03:02.200 --> 0:03:04.320 by the way, don't be shy to talk. I know 0:03:04.400 --> 0:03:07.720 everybody was don't talk over each other. 0:03:07.600 --> 0:03:10.480 But we're being so good not talking over each other 0:03:10.520 --> 0:03:14.720 that it's the most boring silent zoom call. Hi. 0:03:15.200 --> 0:03:17.720 Happy to be here. Yeah, thanks for having us back. Yeah, 0:03:17.760 --> 0:03:18.680 absolutely so. 0:03:18.919 --> 0:03:21.880 I mean I was going to explain to Andrea and 0:03:21.919 --> 0:03:25.680 Emerson also that like Ricardo and James, both of us 0:03:25.760 --> 0:03:27.960 and we kind of keep in touch, like we text 0:03:28.000 --> 0:03:31.480 each other often. And so of course when everything started 0:03:31.480 --> 0:03:35.440 happening in Minneapolis, I immediately thought of both of you, 0:03:35.640 --> 0:03:39.520 because Ricardo, you're actually there on the ground, living there now, 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:43.760 and James, you have lived there for many years after 0:03:43.920 --> 0:03:46.600 Desperate Housewives, and I would imagine a lot of your 0:03:46.600 --> 0:03:49.240 family and friends and maybe even you still have a 0:03:49.280 --> 0:03:55.880 house there. Can you Why don't we start with I mean, 0:03:56.520 --> 0:03:58.680 since Ricardo, since you're there, do you want to just 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:02.280 you know, I tell us what's in your point of view, 0:04:02.280 --> 0:04:05.560 what's happening, what you're witnessing, what you're feeling, and I 0:04:05.560 --> 0:04:09.240 think ultimately what people who are out of state, out 0:04:09.240 --> 0:04:12.640 of the country, fans of yours can do to help. 0:04:13.800 --> 0:04:18.159 Wow. Okay, so I've been pretty active as best I can. 0:04:19.440 --> 0:04:23.760 I went out to a couple of different marches. Recently. 0:04:23.880 --> 0:04:26.080 I did the Lake Street protests that were lining the 0:04:26.120 --> 0:04:29.919 street from Lake Bedema Costa, which used to formerly be 0:04:30.000 --> 0:04:32.320 Lake Calhoun, all the way to the Lake Street Bridge. 0:04:33.080 --> 0:04:34.960 I don't think that they were that successful with it 0:04:35.400 --> 0:04:39.120 because it was a Wednesday night, but there were points 0:04:39.120 --> 0:04:42.799 of contacts, so like at Lake and Bloomington, at Lake 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:47.800 and at Lake and Lyndale, these are very major intersections. 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:50.880 Those intersections were very full, so that was good. And 0:04:50.920 --> 0:04:53.440 I was at Lake in Bloomington because that's specifically at 0:04:53.480 --> 0:04:56.880 Latino part of the community. I wanted to be there 0:04:56.920 --> 0:04:59.840 just for that. A lot of people out there protesting, 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:02.520 a lot of I got some video, Terry. I think 0:05:02.640 --> 0:05:05.960 I sent you some of that video. I've also been 0:05:05.960 --> 0:05:09.040 trying to do just like little things, and it really 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:12.400 started with you know, there was that big, beautiful march 0:05:12.800 --> 0:05:15.120 that happened from US Bank all the way to Target 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:18.280 Center with twenty five thousand people in like negative ten 0:05:18.320 --> 0:05:21.600 degree weather, and it was just like it was so peaceful. 0:05:22.880 --> 0:05:25.919 These were not people that were paid. These were not 0:05:26.080 --> 0:05:30.120 paid protesters, Okay, I mean that would have been a 0:05:30.160 --> 0:05:33.440 shit ton of money twenty some one thousand people. So 0:05:34.800 --> 0:05:37.720 and these are not paid agitators. These are people that 0:05:37.960 --> 0:05:40.720 live in this community, that work in this community, that 0:05:40.839 --> 0:05:43.760 reside in this community, that are fed up with what 0:05:44.040 --> 0:05:48.080 is going on and are tired and are willing to 0:05:48.080 --> 0:05:51.640 put themselves out there to let it be known that 0:05:52.040 --> 0:05:55.320 we don't want this occupation here anymore. So that was 0:05:55.360 --> 0:06:01.200 a beautiful day. And then Saturday morning, you have getting 0:06:01.200 --> 0:06:05.440 shot and I woke up to that. I woke up 0:06:05.440 --> 0:06:08.279 to my neighbors sending me the text, and I was 0:06:08.320 --> 0:06:14.279 just like, wow, Renee Good had gotten shot, and so 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:17.200 I was like, what is just You're like, what is happening? 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:19.640 What is going on? And then my neighbors are like, 0:06:20.400 --> 0:06:22.240 they're saying for everybody to get out on as many 0:06:22.240 --> 0:06:25.160 street corners as possible in protest. And so we did 0:06:25.160 --> 0:06:28.160 that in our neighborhood over here in like Columbia Heights 0:06:28.160 --> 0:06:31.320 and Northeast, And I mean we started with four people 0:06:31.360 --> 0:06:33.960 by the time we finished, we had about fifteen to 0:06:33.960 --> 0:06:35.920 twenty people out there in the street corner, and people 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:38.240 were honking. I mean, there were so many people that 0:06:38.279 --> 0:06:40.040 were honking. I mean there are also people who were 0:06:40.040 --> 0:06:42.400 giving us the finger. I think my absolute favorite one 0:06:42.440 --> 0:06:45.120 was this little old lady that drove by and gave 0:06:45.120 --> 0:06:48.120 me the finger wag of shame. So that was kind 0:06:48.120 --> 0:06:52.080 of interesting. Well you yes, ye. 0:06:52.640 --> 0:06:54.839 Here because I think, you know, and I don't know 0:06:54.880 --> 0:06:57.880 if this is interesting to people who do not live 0:06:57.960 --> 0:07:02.240 in the US, because I do feel, like, you know, 0:07:03.360 --> 0:07:07.960 political divisiveness and right wing swings are happening all over 0:07:08.000 --> 0:07:10.600 the world, so I can't imagine that it's it's just 0:07:10.840 --> 0:07:17.400 us that are seeing these extreme, horrible, illegal, you know, behaviors. 0:07:17.800 --> 0:07:22.720 But like, what what would possess an old woman to 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:26.920 wag her finger like, I mean, obviously desperately devoted? Is 0:07:26.960 --> 0:07:30.880 not a political show. And and I'm not a political expert, 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:33.320 although I don't. I think I'm a smart person, and 0:07:33.360 --> 0:07:37.640 I think I'm a reasonable person, and I and I 0:07:37.680 --> 0:07:40.280 you know, so I think I count as much to 0:07:41.160 --> 0:07:44.760 discuss and tear apart like trying to figure out what 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:49.720 is happening as anybody. But like, what is she wagging her. 0:07:49.600 --> 0:07:50.360 Finger at you for? 0:07:52.080 --> 0:07:53.800 This is the interesting thing about Minnesota. 0:07:53.840 --> 0:07:55.880 People think, you know, probably you know it is the 0:07:55.960 --> 0:07:59.360 land of Hubert Humphrey and Walter Mondale and now Tim Walls. 0:07:59.720 --> 0:08:02.360 But Minnesota, as Ricardo will at test. I lived there 0:08:02.360 --> 0:08:04.080 for twelve years. I do still have a house there. 0:08:04.160 --> 0:08:06.320 My son was actually out at the protest and he's 0:08:06.360 --> 0:08:08.600 still waiting for his check, by the way, if he 0:08:08.680 --> 0:08:11.280 was paid to be out there. And I know everybody 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:13.520 I know just about was out there. Ricardo, good on you, 0:08:13.560 --> 0:08:15.600 because that's all you can do right now. And I 0:08:15.640 --> 0:08:18.840 have a mutual friends who knew Alex Pretty who's a 0:08:18.920 --> 0:08:22.200 nurse ps one of the nicest guys in the world, 0:08:22.400 --> 0:08:25.960 peace loving guy in case you doubted it. But it's 0:08:26.520 --> 0:08:29.720 Middle America. It's not like they picked on some super 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:33.720 progressive liberal state. Minnesota is as purple as it gets. 0:08:33.720 --> 0:08:36.120 And I got I got flipped off in my old 0:08:36.160 --> 0:08:39.880 pickup truck two times. When I first moved on, I 0:08:39.920 --> 0:08:41.720 was like, what is what am I doing? I'm not 0:08:41.800 --> 0:08:43.120 driving what happened in Minnesota? 0:08:43.200 --> 0:08:43.480 Nice? 0:08:44.120 --> 0:08:46.320 And I realized I had a Biden bumper sticker on 0:08:46.360 --> 0:08:49.440 my truck and literally waiting the middle finger at me 0:08:49.480 --> 0:08:51.520 as they passed me. I thought, oh, did I cut 0:08:51.520 --> 0:08:52.000 that guy off? 0:08:52.040 --> 0:08:55.560 What did I do? So it's not super progressive. 0:08:56.320 --> 0:08:58.199 I think Tim Wallas is one of the reasons that 0:08:58.200 --> 0:08:59.880 that Trump is picking on it. 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:02.640 And it's also the humong and Somali populations. 0:09:03.200 --> 0:09:05.839 They are a lot of Somali immigrants, and I think 0:09:05.840 --> 0:09:08.319 because they're brown, you know, they're easy to spot and 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:11.079 pick because Minnesota is pretty lily white, so it's easy 0:09:11.080 --> 0:09:13.360 to find these people for them and to target them. 0:09:13.600 --> 0:09:14.720 And it's really horrible. 0:09:14.760 --> 0:09:17.880 But people think about Minnesota as being you know, Mondale Humphrey, 0:09:17.920 --> 0:09:20.600 and it's very purple, and there's plenty of people that 0:09:20.679 --> 0:09:23.840 are far right maga people, so it's it's kind of 0:09:23.920 --> 0:09:26.520 a hot button place right now, which I never would 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:28.720 have thought of, you know, just a few years ago. 0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:32.720 I want to jump in and say that, you know, 0:09:32.920 --> 0:09:35.560 you're talking about the protests, and obviously over the last 0:09:35.800 --> 0:09:39.240 twelve plus years there have been so many protests and 0:09:39.480 --> 0:09:41.520 it feels like one of the things we can do, 0:09:41.559 --> 0:09:44.880 but it often feels like not enough of something to do. 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:49.240 But we see these signs all over social media and 0:09:49.280 --> 0:09:52.920 the internet, and there's so many beautiful sentiments that people 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:55.680 are holding up, and I think one of the ones 0:09:55.720 --> 0:09:58.559 I've seen recently that really struck me as a succinct 0:09:58.640 --> 0:10:01.680 way to talk about what's happened is it's the Sign. 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:04.160 And I'm sure you all saw it that said, if 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:07.000 you're not heartbroken for America right now, then you don't 0:10:07.040 --> 0:10:10.200 love her enough. And I thought that is a really 0:10:10.960 --> 0:10:14.280 beautiful way to state something that should be bipartisan, right, 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:16.840 because if you are politically active at all, if you 0:10:16.880 --> 0:10:20.240 are passionate, whatever your political affiliation is, it should be 0:10:20.360 --> 0:10:22.920 rooted in a love of country, right and the hope 0:10:22.960 --> 0:10:25.760 that America can be the best it can be. And 0:10:25.840 --> 0:10:29.800 I feel like we can all look around and acknowledge 0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:31.920 that this is so far from the best that we 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:35.640 can be. This cannot be the best. And so I 0:10:35.679 --> 0:10:40.160 thought that that statement was a really good example of saying, 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:42.600 this is what These are the conversations we need to 0:10:42.600 --> 0:10:45.600 be having, because yes it is political, and yes there 0:10:45.640 --> 0:10:50.680 is a giant divide, but shouldn't we all be trying 0:10:50.960 --> 0:10:53.360 to live in a country that we can stand proudly 0:10:53.400 --> 0:10:54.960 behind and this can't be it. 0:10:56.160 --> 0:10:58.040 You're exactly right, and it's anything. 0:10:57.760 --> 0:11:00.520 You read by An Applebaum is a great author as 0:11:00.520 --> 0:11:04.600 far as autocracy books about you know, the slippery slope 0:11:04.640 --> 0:11:06.600 and with the way it happens, and you know, you 0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:08.840 change the refs, which are the Supreme Court judges, and 0:11:08.880 --> 0:11:11.640 then you ignore the guard rails and all those things. 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:14.360 And there's a certain amount of tolerance that's that's imperative. 0:11:14.600 --> 0:11:17.160 And when you have any kind of a republican representation 0:11:17.240 --> 0:11:20.360 or democracy where you have to legitimately believe the other 0:11:20.400 --> 0:11:22.640 side is human and they have a right to do 0:11:22.679 --> 0:11:26.119 their thing and they're gonna win sometimes, and that tolerance 0:11:26.240 --> 0:11:27.320 is just completely gone. 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:30.160 And and you know, I am. 0:11:30.040 --> 0:11:31.920 A prejudice and that I have ended up on the 0:11:31.960 --> 0:11:35.280 left side as I was born and raised Republican. I think, Terry, 0:11:35.320 --> 0:11:37.640 you might have been raised conservative too, are you. Yeah, 0:11:37.720 --> 0:11:41.439 and the party just has disappeared. But so yeah, I'm 0:11:41.440 --> 0:11:43.840 a little biased now on that side. But it's frustrating 0:11:43.880 --> 0:11:47.360 that my friends that are still very conservative Republicans and 0:11:47.400 --> 0:11:52.120 Trump supporters seem like they don't want there's no tolerance. 0:11:52.160 --> 0:11:56.800 That we're these horrible, these sort of caricature cardboard cutouts 0:11:56.800 --> 0:11:58.760 that they've been presented on from Fox News. 0:11:59.280 --> 0:12:02.680 And I hope I'm not being too tough, but it's 0:12:03.160 --> 0:12:04.280 it's it's the truth. 0:12:05.320 --> 0:12:07.400 And then they they And so it's been tough because 0:12:07.400 --> 0:12:10.160 I can't even have a conversation anymore. And uh and 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:13.520 obviously that's a that's not a great place for to start. 0:12:14.320 --> 0:12:18.040 You know, I wasn't raised conservative. I mean, my my 0:12:18.080 --> 0:12:21.440 father my mother were met uh you know, they were 0:12:21.480 --> 0:12:23.960 They both joined the Peace Corps in the sixties. My 0:12:23.960 --> 0:12:26.960 father to avoid Vietnam, my mother to find something better 0:12:27.000 --> 0:12:29.600 for herself. I mean when they came back stateside, they 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:32.440 both marched with Caesar Javas in Crystal City, you know, 0:12:32.520 --> 0:12:34.920 in the early seventies. My father was was one of 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:37.120 the members of the La La Rossa you need a party, 0:12:37.480 --> 0:12:39.760 So you know, this is this is something that for me, 0:12:39.800 --> 0:12:42.080 it was like, this is this is a no brainer. 0:12:42.080 --> 0:12:43.960 I go out there and I do this, you know. 0:12:44.040 --> 0:12:47.080 And I think the thing is is some people say, well, 0:12:47.320 --> 0:12:48.560 you don't you don't want to do that. Well, I'm 0:12:48.600 --> 0:12:51.200 not putting myself right there at ground zero. You know. 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:53.240 I have you know, I have things that obligations, and 0:12:53.280 --> 0:12:55.040 I have children, I have this kind of stuff. But 0:12:55.080 --> 0:12:58.280 I think that it's important that and and look, man, 0:12:58.320 --> 0:13:01.000 I am Terry, you and I talked about this. I'm 0:13:01.000 --> 0:13:03.200 not trying to do this so that people pay attention 0:13:03.280 --> 0:13:06.520 to me and so that I'm getting likes. And it's like, dude, 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:08.840 I don't If I can come up with an idea 0:13:08.920 --> 0:13:10.400 or if I could put my face out there and 0:13:10.440 --> 0:13:13.160 it provides a solution, that's all that That's all that 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:15.280 matters at this point, you know what I mean? And 0:13:15.320 --> 0:13:17.600 I and I and I really truly believe I think 0:13:17.800 --> 0:13:22.439 more people like bigger names, bigger faces, with bigger voices 0:13:22.480 --> 0:13:26.040 and bigger platforms need to put themselves out there. I mean, 0:13:26.080 --> 0:13:29.040 we're at that point where it's like it's it is 0:13:29.200 --> 0:13:32.480 a necessity, like my thought I saw and I did 0:13:32.480 --> 0:13:35.120 this little reel about it for for Instagram, But it 0:13:35.160 --> 0:13:37.960 was you know, the the NBA canceled the game te 0:13:38.000 --> 0:13:41.599 Wolves versus the Golden State Warriors on the day that 0:13:41.920 --> 0:13:44.360 Freddie was shot. Now they just moved it a day. 0:13:44.679 --> 0:13:46.679 But it's like, why not go further with that? Why 0:13:46.760 --> 0:13:49.520 not start canceling games in general? Why don't you guys 0:13:49.520 --> 0:13:53.360 get you guys are massive leaders within these communities that 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:57.280 you that you represent, your teams represent. You know, It's like, 0:13:57.360 --> 0:14:01.000 are we just and and we have an economic relationship. 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:03.760 You know, you guys rely on us to buy tickets 0:14:03.800 --> 0:14:08.920 and support your teams. You know, come on, get out 0:14:08.960 --> 0:14:11.760 here with us, get out here with your community. Sorry, 0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:12.120 that's it. 0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:24.520 I agree with you on a lot of points you 0:14:24.640 --> 0:14:27.640 just suggested. I mean, I think it's tricky whether you're 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:33.040 famous or not. I think there's a you know, there's 0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:39.080 a question of if you're obligated to speak out or 0:14:40.520 --> 0:14:42.760 you know, if there's a place for you to be 0:14:44.960 --> 0:14:48.160 holding space and support in some private way. 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:48.720 You know. 0:14:48.840 --> 0:14:53.960 I try not to be too judgmental about that. I 0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:57.560 also feel like it can be exhaustive for people to 0:14:57.720 --> 0:15:00.320 have the sense of wanting to be able to do 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:03.280 something and not being able to know what to do. 0:15:03.760 --> 0:15:05.880 I mean, you even have a lot of push right 0:15:05.880 --> 0:15:08.640 now with the call your senator and tell them not 0:15:08.720 --> 0:15:13.840 to fund ice, which is a great idea. But Alex 0:15:13.960 --> 0:15:19.080 Padilla in California is very clearly a left supporting you 0:15:19.120 --> 0:15:22.080 know what I mean, Like like I can call him, 0:15:22.560 --> 0:15:26.400 but it's and I will and and but I don't know, 0:15:26.480 --> 0:15:29.800 you know that that probably isn't the thing that's going 0:15:29.880 --> 0:15:33.000 to make a difference, because he's already not supporting ICE, 0:15:33.040 --> 0:15:35.680 and he's already been out there very clearly about it. 0:15:36.880 --> 0:15:38.920 On my side, my two senator is because I still 0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:41.600 you know, my my my homestead is Texas. So my 0:15:41.680 --> 0:15:44.880 two senators are John Corny and Ted Cruz. I mean, really, 0:15:44.960 --> 0:15:46.720 you think they're going to listen to anything I say 0:15:46.760 --> 0:15:47.800 about defunding ICE. 0:15:48.280 --> 0:15:52.440 You know, But although although that would be the senator, 0:15:52.600 --> 0:15:55.680 when you have that connection, that's the senator that is 0:15:55.720 --> 0:15:57.000 the important call to make. 0:15:57.200 --> 0:15:59.640 Yeah, just I want to jump in and just say 0:15:59.680 --> 0:16:03.480 that in terms of calling your senators, this does especially 0:16:03.520 --> 0:16:06.120 matter if you are in a red state. And if 0:16:06.200 --> 0:16:08.040 you're thinking about if you're a listener of ours and 0:16:08.080 --> 0:16:12.240 you're thinking about calling your senator, the national switchboard is 0:16:12.520 --> 0:16:16.720 the number is two zero two two two four three 0:16:16.880 --> 0:16:21.720 one two one two zero two two two four three 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:23.160 one two one. 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:24.760 And you can look this up to it. 0:16:24.920 --> 0:16:27.720 Like I mean, I understand it can feel like potentially 0:16:27.720 --> 0:16:29.920 it's not that useful if you're in a blue state. 0:16:30.280 --> 0:16:33.320 But I do think that there is power in numbers, 0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:36.080 certainly if you're in a purple state or a red state. 0:16:36.400 --> 0:16:39.760 And also right now, with specific regard to Minnesota, it 0:16:39.760 --> 0:16:42.840 feels worth mentioning that you can look up stand with 0:16:42.920 --> 0:16:47.080 Minnesota dot com for a whole host of local organizations 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:49.800 and aid groups that are accepting donation right now, in 0:16:49.800 --> 0:16:51.720 addition to if you're able to get out there on 0:16:51.760 --> 0:16:52.880 an actual street corner. 0:16:52.920 --> 0:16:54.520 I was just going to say, so, I had a 0:16:54.560 --> 0:16:56.880 friend of mine, I'm really tied in with the theater 0:16:56.920 --> 0:16:59.440 community over here, and I feel, like I said, again, 0:16:59.560 --> 0:17:01.920 I've got the imposter syndrome where I've only been here 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:04.159 for three years. So I reached out to my like 0:17:04.359 --> 0:17:07.640 several of my people. It's like, you guys are native here, 0:17:07.800 --> 0:17:10.000 give me a list please, and I have it if 0:17:10.560 --> 0:17:14.200 you'll allow me. The big ones, uh, so U neiedos 0:17:15.080 --> 0:17:17.879 Minneapolis or Minnesota. So it's you and I, the d 0:17:18.000 --> 0:17:21.280 O S DASH m N dot org, uh, the Immigrants 0:17:21.320 --> 0:17:26.000 Defense Network which is all one word immigrants, Immigrant Defense 0:17:26.080 --> 0:17:31.600 Network dot org. Also Monarca which is Monarica m N 0:17:31.760 --> 0:17:36.000 dot org. Mutual aid efforts you can d h H 0:17:36.400 --> 0:17:38.800 Church and Burnsville have been providing food for weeks to 0:17:38.880 --> 0:17:41.480 people that are staying indoors because they don't feel safe 0:17:41.480 --> 0:17:45.680 going outside. And that's www dot d h H m 0:17:45.920 --> 0:17:50.560 N dot com. Backslash Operations South High School has a 0:17:50.560 --> 0:17:55.000 fund for food and rent for terrified families. That's www 0:17:55.160 --> 0:18:00.280 dot gofund me dot com, backslash support DASH South High 0:18:00.320 --> 0:18:08.440 School Families, Minnesota Rapid Response Coalition www dot Minneapolis dot org, backslash, 0:18:08.720 --> 0:18:13.679 mp LS, dash f o R dash mp LS, backslash 0:18:13.720 --> 0:18:15.879 And I can provide you this whole list, Jerry. I'll 0:18:15.920 --> 0:18:17.560 make sure so you guys can put it on there. 0:18:17.600 --> 0:18:20.200 Well, put them all up. I wanted to tell our audience, 0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:24.119 not because again, like you, I'm not really about telling 0:18:24.119 --> 0:18:26.719 people what I do or what I don't do in 0:18:26.760 --> 0:18:30.639 some sort of, you know, boastful way, but something people 0:18:30.720 --> 0:18:33.120 know who listen to this podcast, they know my love 0:18:33.160 --> 0:18:37.200 of food. They know how every time we've done an episode, 0:18:37.240 --> 0:18:40.840 I'm making peanut brittle or you know whatever, you know, 0:18:41.119 --> 0:18:44.120 fried chicken or whatever it is. And so I went 0:18:44.240 --> 0:18:48.760 and found a couple of ways to adopt restaurants in Minneapolis, 0:18:48.800 --> 0:18:53.080 because what happens is people are afraid to go out, 0:18:53.119 --> 0:18:57.919 and so therefore small businesses are not getting their normal revenue. 0:18:58.359 --> 0:19:01.679 And so that's something else you can do and will 0:19:01.840 --> 0:19:05.760 include all of this stuff. But I think, as I 0:19:05.760 --> 0:19:09.120 was going back to saying, I think sometimes I wasn't 0:19:09.160 --> 0:19:12.640 trying to any way belittle the calling the senators move, 0:19:13.080 --> 0:19:15.040 even if you do live in a blue state, because 0:19:15.080 --> 0:19:19.760 I agree with you Emerson, numbers matter. But you know 0:19:20.000 --> 0:19:23.040 when you can actually put money in somebody's pocket, When 0:19:23.280 --> 0:19:28.120 when that you know, in real time it will be effectual, 0:19:28.560 --> 0:19:32.359 that that feels good to be generous to help people. 0:19:32.600 --> 0:19:35.159 Like that's going back to what you said, Andrew. I mean, 0:19:35.160 --> 0:19:37.600 I'm going to cry now because it's just like I 0:19:37.640 --> 0:19:40.320 don't understand, Like I listen to you say that list 0:19:40.520 --> 0:19:44.680 of people in need and organizations that it's really great 0:19:44.720 --> 0:19:47.080 to hear you say at Ricardo, because I think sometimes 0:19:47.119 --> 0:19:50.920 people don't trust if an organization is vetted or whatever, 0:19:51.000 --> 0:19:54.119 and it's nice to hear it right from you, So 0:19:54.240 --> 0:19:58.840 thank you for that. But like you make it sound like, 0:19:59.560 --> 0:20:01.960 you know, like a war zone, and that's and that's 0:20:02.480 --> 0:20:06.360 that is what it is. And we've done this to ourselves, 0:20:06.440 --> 0:20:10.159 the federal government, the people who elected these people, like 0:20:10.880 --> 0:20:15.359 we've done this to ourselves, and it's just insane to 0:20:15.440 --> 0:20:19.560 me that we can't get past the politics in order 0:20:19.640 --> 0:20:21.280 to just see the humanity. 0:20:21.359 --> 0:20:24.520 I'd like I'd like to share something very personal, if 0:20:24.520 --> 0:20:28.119 I may so Rene Good was shot. My son was 0:20:28.200 --> 0:20:31.240 up here with me. We did a fishing trip right 0:20:31.280 --> 0:20:34.400 after that, went up to northern Minnesota, then came back. 0:20:34.440 --> 0:20:36.520 I went away into the short film in Vegas and 0:20:36.560 --> 0:20:38.000 then I got back here. So it's gone for about 0:20:38.040 --> 0:20:43.640 a week. The day that she was shot. And first off, 0:20:43.680 --> 0:20:48.359 I have a very large white Chevy truck Okay, with 0:20:48.680 --> 0:20:55.000 very dark tinted windows and Texas plates. So the day 0:20:55.040 --> 0:20:57.600 that she was shot, we were driving on Central near 0:20:57.640 --> 0:21:01.440 my house and a woman looked at my truck, scowled 0:21:01.680 --> 0:21:06.280 and picked up her phone and took a photo. Since 0:21:06.320 --> 0:21:10.200 I've been back in the past week, I've been actively 0:21:10.280 --> 0:21:15.919 followed seven times. I've had multiple people give me the 0:21:15.960 --> 0:21:19.960 finger and dirty looks as I'm driving, and have videotape 0:21:20.080 --> 0:21:24.199 or taken pictures of my truck. My neighbors have gotten 0:21:24.280 --> 0:21:26.359 my truck a picture of it as well as the 0:21:26.359 --> 0:21:29.320 plates and given it to all the active observers and 0:21:29.400 --> 0:21:31.879 volunteers in the area so that they know that my 0:21:31.920 --> 0:21:36.200 truck is a safe truck. But I mean, like literally, 0:21:36.280 --> 0:21:39.800 just yesterday I had somebody I saw the car, I 0:21:39.880 --> 0:21:43.200 saw him look and he turned and followed me and 0:21:43.240 --> 0:21:45.119 followed me all the way home, I had to flag 0:21:45.200 --> 0:21:47.520 him down and be like, I see what you're doing. 0:21:47.640 --> 0:21:51.320 I totally understand it. I absolutely support it. And it's 0:21:51.359 --> 0:21:54.359 my misfortune that this is my vehicle right now given 0:21:54.400 --> 0:21:57.600 the state of affairs. But I am not ice, and 0:21:58.240 --> 0:22:00.880 I just want you to know that, okay, And and 0:22:00.880 --> 0:22:03.239 and I look, look I'm fine with that, and I 0:22:03.280 --> 0:22:06.400 really am. But it's like, this is what's going on, 0:22:06.600 --> 0:22:09.880 this is where we're at. That like the state of Minnesota, 0:22:09.880 --> 0:22:12.439 the city of Minneapolis, if you're driving a car that 0:22:12.560 --> 0:22:15.280 looks like an ice vehicle with dark tinted windows or 0:22:15.280 --> 0:22:18.439