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Speaker 2: to Patriots Unfiltered. First public practice will be July twenty fifth,

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Speaker 2: and so we're looking forward to that. Not really, I'm

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Speaker 2: not really looking forward to that. I'm looking forward to it,

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Speaker 2: but I don't want it to come fast easy.

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Speaker 1: Michael Scott.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that is saying that.

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Speaker 1: It seems like over the weekend and he had a

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Speaker 2: No, I just thought, are you disappointed that you think

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Speaker 2: it's going to get done?

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Speaker 1: Sir? Why do you do that?

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Speaker 2: If soccer was our number one sport, we would dominate?

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Speaker 4: Why do we say things like no, if culture? What

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Speaker 4: I'm saying is if culture because it because of the game,

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Speaker 4: but like there's such a would be the best? Yeah,

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Speaker 4: just because of numbers, not because we're better human telling.

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Speaker 2: This is the thing about Holland is is when he

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Speaker 5: My god, I kind of like bent over a little bit.

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Speaker 2: His size, like, it's just the speed, it's it's incredible.

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here

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Speaker 2: at Julett Stadium, and we're in between matches for the

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Speaker 2: FIFA World Cup, so we get to have a normal

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Speaker 2: show at our normal time. Good to do. So it's Evan,

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Speaker 2: it's Paul, it's me, it's Deuce, it's Alex and Alex

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Speaker 2: in the booth. So Alex chirped in yesterday and I

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Speaker 2: don't know if people knew who the voice was, and

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Speaker 2: I didn't get a chance to say that was Alex.

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Speaker 2: So so if you hear a voice that you don't recognize,

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Speaker 2: it's Alex the booth. Yeah, there he is.

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Speaker 7: Somehow he's been here twenty minutes. Every time he talks

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Matt like hit the button, He's like, oh so

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Speaker 2: all right, So not much is changing Patriots World since

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Speaker 2: the last time we had a show two days ago

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Speaker 2: or catch twenty two. Yes yesterday, oh, yes, right, yesterday,

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Speaker 2: this Wednesday. How was the show with Barth.

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Speaker 1: It was good. It was it was quiet quiet which one.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we did. We did three up, three up,

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Speaker 1: three down, three up, three down from from the Spring,

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Speaker 1: and uh, you know, we had some good good talk

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Speaker 1: about you know, how good Drake may looked, how good A. J.

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Speaker 1: Brown looks, the gay backus thing. And then we get

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Speaker 1: to the last one and Barth goes Bryce Berengerg and

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Speaker 1: we went on an old rant about the punters and

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Speaker 1: it was on brand. Yeah, that's the show.

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Speaker 8: Well, it's more of the tone of just like and

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Speaker 8: of course, you know I've got to put baard like

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Speaker 1: Of course we we you know, we dedicated ourselves to

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Speaker 1: being that show that talks about the ninetieth guy on

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Speaker 1: the roster. You might not hear it from everybody else.

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Speaker 1: And Understandablyie, you've made yourself a niche show if you

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Speaker 1: want to hear about Laurence Mentz and you know, the

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Speaker 1: everybody down there, we got you covered.

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Speaker 5: How much how many minutes did you do on the

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Speaker 1: We talked about the try out punter. We talked a

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Speaker 1: But we both felt that Barringer probably deserved to be

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Speaker 2: And did you dominate the show?

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Speaker 2: Because Darius writes an he says, I'm at work driving

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Speaker 1: Okay, I thought, literally, that's just Fred and Fred.

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Speaker 5: He was diagramming the punts from Bearinger.

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Speaker 9: I came in to defend my sport after listening to

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Speaker 7: First I would I would just say yes when we

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Speaker 7: I was this was not a critical of soccer thing,

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Speaker 7: So like I just you know, like you were defending

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Speaker 9: So I just think that if other it'll be interesting

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Speaker 1: Not the only option you have.

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Speaker 2: Except for individual sports, I think all women dominate all

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Speaker 9: Like a little girl in Spain isn't turning twelve years

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Speaker 9: Little island of Madda in the middle of the Atlantic

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Speaker 2: But it's well you see that here in Boston, like

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Speaker 7: But like all of those things about your attention span

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Speaker 1: You know, it's not about size, it's about talent.

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Speaker 7: And I don't think our most talented people play that sport,

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Speaker 1: That's the problem is, like I I would you know,

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Speaker 2: Over the years, I don't know, And Cinman was one

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Speaker 9: Ludlow, I did you know what I mean? And that's

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Speaker 10: Your dad would It would need to be the whole country.

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Speaker 10: So I don't think I think we're too far gone.

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Speaker 9: I think we just have to be happy making little

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Speaker 5: Talking about the strategy.

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Speaker 8: I mean not to always tie it back to hockey,

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Speaker 5: From a bunch of youth teams dump and chase.

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Speaker 8: So now we're trying to regroup, we're trying to bring

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Speaker 2: So Chris and Virginia and thank you for your service.

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Speaker 2: Chris has some interesting stats. He said, you've recently been

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Speaker 1: I mean there's only been like like the World Cup

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Speaker 7: Let's not though, let's not like equate. The only way

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Speaker 7: But like there's I mean, the US, I believe it is.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, but the US is like seventeenth or eighteenth in

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Speaker 2: Right, the US is ahead of most europe South American countries.

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Speaker 2: The US men's national team has reached the World Cup

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Speaker 7: Italy didn't even qualify for this World Cup. Who's a

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Speaker 1: I don't know about that, right I don't know. They

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Speaker 1: There's no way Italy.

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Speaker 7: Like, so it's I'm not comparing them to the ones

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Speaker 1: There was certainly a lot better than the opponent. I

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Speaker 2: I'll close it out, Chris closes it out. As a

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Speaker 1: time making their starting eleven sometimes, isn't there.

443
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Speaker 7: Some kind of I mean, I don't know enough about this,

444
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Speaker 7: but I've just in stuff that I've heard from my

445
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Speaker 7: boy Taylor Twelman, Like there's like some politics that go

446
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Speaker 7: into some of that stuff.

447
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Speaker 1: Yeah, him and the coach, I guess don't get along

448
00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,960
Speaker 1: great and he was hurt for a little.

449
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Speaker 7: They tend to want their guys that they're developing to

450
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Speaker 7: be in key roles and key games and whatnot.

451
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Speaker 2: So getting back to the coaches that you asked, who

452
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Speaker 2: were the.

453
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Speaker 1: Coaches, because I feel like we've always had a European coach.

454
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Speaker 2: Uh, well, Bruce Arena was the coach.

455
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Barhalter was the most recent coach. And

456
00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:50,919
Speaker 1: that guy stunk, Like we can just where's he from here? America?

457
00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,120
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, his son actually plays on the team now.

458
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Speaker 1: But they he I mean now was a disaster, just

459
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Speaker 1: like they got grouped in COPA. They didn't do his

460
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Speaker 1: as they should have. In the last World Cup in Qatar,

461
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Speaker 1: it was bad. And then now they you know, poach

462
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Speaker 1: it took Tottenham really really far in the e PL

463
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Speaker 1: and is like considered like a really high end coach,

464
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Speaker 1: and I think that you're starting to see some of

465
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Speaker 1: that progress being made. But he's only here for this cycle.

466
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Speaker 1: He's moving on after this. He's going to coach a

467
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Speaker 1: club team after this, and he's only coaching the US

468
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Speaker 1: team for one World Cup and then he's done.

469
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Speaker 2: Where is the men's national team headquarters?

470
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Speaker 1: I think southern California, at least for this World Cup.

471
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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's where it is. It's a

472
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Speaker 1: permanent I don't know. I don't know. I know that

473
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Speaker 1: that's where their base camp is right.

474
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Speaker 2: Now because I remember, you know, we went to Germany

475
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Speaker 2: and we were at the there that was a facility

476
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Speaker 2: and that was a nice place.

477
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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean, you know, Bruce Arena is probably

478
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Speaker 1: our most famous national team.

479
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Speaker 5: Coach, yelled at me and Paul once.

480
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Speaker 1: Yeahs soccer.

481
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Speaker 10: Inyetteville, Georgia.

482
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Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, so they met Arthur.

483
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Speaker 10: Banks Soccer National Training Center.

484
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Speaker 5: Arthur Okay, are.

485
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Speaker 1: There Banks a big one soccer? He's a big soccer guy.

486
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Speaker 1: Socer Actually yeah.

487
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I just think of that's slow motion shote.

488
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Speaker 7: That was That was a reference to somebody else that

489
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Speaker 7: we were talking about previously.

490
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Speaker 2: James Pettigrew's on the line. I'm sure he's going to

491
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Speaker 2: tell us why we're all wrong. Go ahead, James, especially.

492
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Speaker 11: Me not as well. Are you ready for the education?

493
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Speaker 3: Now?

494
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Speaker 11: There are some solutions at the end, so don't worry.

495
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Speaker 11: But there's a model, and there's a nexus in the model,

496
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Speaker 11: which is why you guys will never really achieve the

497
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Speaker 11: level of other nations. Right, you talk about youth football. Now,

498
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Speaker 11: for the core of the England team, the France team,

499
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Speaker 11: the Spain team, the good teams, they play their youth

500
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Speaker 11: football in the Champions League. Right. You watch the Champions

501
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Speaker 11: League and every year there's some seventeen year old I

502
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Speaker 11: remember Yarramir Lamar was the last one Barcelona, right, And

503
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 11: these seventeen year olds are playing their youth football in

504
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Speaker 11: the finals of the Champions League. And you need a

505
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,880
Speaker 11: few of those in your team if you want to win. Now,

506
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Speaker 11: how do you get there. Evans sort of touched on it,

507
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 11: Messi started it, but at twelve years old is where

508
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 11: they signed their contracts, right, So Messi was the first

509
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 11: and they had to have a board meeting to check

510
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Speaker 11: if it was legal in the EU to bring him over.

511
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Speaker 11: But they sign a contract with you at twelve and

512
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Speaker 11: your family goes over, right, and then you've got a

513
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Speaker 11: one in one hundred thousand shot of making it. But

514
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Speaker 11: you look at all of those famous players, Messi, Ronaldo,

515
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Speaker 11: Rooney and Bathe, they're all playing in the Champions League

516
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Speaker 11: when they're younger. Now the problem is in America, very

517
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Speaker 11: few American parents, because you've got the NC double A,

518
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 11: they're going to say, you know, you know Paul or

519
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Speaker 11: Andy if little if one of their kids gets into

520
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Speaker 11: Liverpool Academy, they're not leading Massachusetts up and moving to

521
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Speaker 11: that because education with this, there's no safety net. You're

522
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Speaker 11: not getting a degree by going to some of these academies.

523
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Speaker 11: And unless you insert the twelve year olds, you're not

524
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Speaker 11: going to be playing you football in the Champions League

525
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Speaker 11: at seventeen or eighteen, because that's what it takes to

526
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Speaker 11: have two or three world class players. Because there's thousands

527
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Speaker 11: of slightly underworld class players. Right, we didn't take a

528
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Speaker 11: guy call Phil Foden with us. He didn't make our

529
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Speaker 11: twenty six. He would have been the best person on

530
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Speaker 11: the American team. You bring up Hulasitch made his debut

531
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Speaker 11: for Borisse a Doorman at seventeen and he was playing

532
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Speaker 11: Champions League football with Chelsea a few years later. Admittedly

533
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Speaker 11: he wasn't that great, but you need to have that model.

534
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Speaker 11: So the next this is when the kids turned twelve,

535
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Speaker 11: and especially with NIL, there's no way you're not going

536
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Speaker 11: to say I've got a good kid. I'm going to

537
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Speaker 11: send them off now for a million to one shot,

538
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Speaker 11: no education, and if he leaves, it really is Sunny's

539
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,160
Speaker 11: car wash as opposed to well, he might be pretty good.

540
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,159
Speaker 11: He can get a scholarship to un age. He's not

541
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Speaker 11: going to become a professional, but he gets four years

542
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 11: of education, maybe gets MENIL and then you graduate. Now

543
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 11: there is another chance, right, I've thought of another solution

544
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:20,360
Speaker 11: because of NIL. Maybe the Premier League cuts to deal

545
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:24,880
Speaker 11: with the sec right and then pushes the youth somehow

546
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Speaker 11: they can make some more money. So now you've got

547
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Speaker 11: NIL money. That's the only way you could maybe bring

548
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,679
Speaker 11: more youth or sort of up it that way. But

549
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Speaker 11: that's my solution. American parents are not going to send

550
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Speaker 11: their kids abroad at twelve years old. From million to

551
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Speaker 11: one shot, all.

552
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Speaker 2: Right, But I read that Agasy book and at a

553
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Speaker 2: young age, I think just as he was going at

554
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Speaker 2: the high school, his father was approached by Nick Bolla Terry,

555
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Speaker 2: who was starting this academy, who was still young, and said,

556
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Speaker 2: send him here. He'll go to school, you know, but

557
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 2: he's gonna play tennis and that's what he's gonna do

558
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 2: all day long. And you know, he describes that whole

559
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 2: journey that and it was miserable for you. He hated it,

560
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 2: hated it, but he did it. And you know, Nick

561
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Speaker 2: Bolterry Academy grew after that. I don't know what it's

562
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 2: doing these days. But IMG had but a thing right now.

563
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Speaker 2: And but that's an individual sport.

564
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Speaker 1: Well they had they have IMG and other sports.

565
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Speaker 9: Yeah, I academy, mom, you have all these like sports.

566
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Speaker 9: They're really just they do. They do exist, but they're

567
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Speaker 9: still schools.

568
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 1: And they go like it's not just the people schools.

569
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Speaker 9: Say like okay, but exactly right, it's still a school.

570
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Speaker 9: There's still that like structure there. It's not like you

571
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 9: are going off to sport Thing or to Real Madrid

572
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Speaker 9: and you're gonna do nothing but play soccer.

573
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Speaker 10: And we just hope it was.

574
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Speaker 9: And how do you get a kid good enough by

575
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Speaker 9: the age of twelve to even get recognized at that level?

576
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 9: You have to be touching the ball every single day

577
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Speaker 9: in the dirt with your friends.

578
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Speaker 7: In addition, that's why I say it, and I know

579
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Speaker 7: I'm simplistic, but they do do that in other sports

580
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Speaker 7: Mike's and the USHL.

581
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, the parents can stay put. They live there. They

582
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Speaker 2: literally live there. The parents can stay.

583
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Speaker 10: Where they How old are you when you go play

584
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Speaker 10: junior hockey?

585
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Speaker 5: I mean thirteen fourteen?

586
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 2: Good enough?

587
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Speaker 7: You know, if you're good enough you go to the USHL,

588
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 7: you go to some of these leagues now in Canada.

589
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 7: And James brings up a good point about the nil

590
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Speaker 7: money too, because now you know you can sort of

591
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Speaker 7: like forego some of those things because you can make

592
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Speaker 7: some money when you go to college. But I just

593
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Speaker 7: I would look at there's some exceptions, but I don't

594
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Speaker 7: think the amount of nil money available in the non

595
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Speaker 7: traditional sports is anywhere near what worthwhile to bank on

596
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Speaker 7: it's not life changing money.

597
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Speaker 1: I'm glad that he brought up polistics because I think

598
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Speaker 1: that his path is the best path forward for somebody

599
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Speaker 1: in American born player to become like a true soccer star.

600
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Speaker 1: And he's the best that we've ever produced. So it

601
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Speaker 1: kind of goes to show. But he was you know,

602
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Speaker 1: he went to Dortmund, like James said, when he was

603
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Speaker 1: a teenager, and you know, like that that was he

604
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: didn't go to American high school, like he didn't go

605
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Speaker 1: to college in the States. He played soccer and even

606
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Speaker 1: he's good, but not you know, we're not talking about

607
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Speaker 1: Imbape here, like we're talking about a guy that's still

608
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Speaker 1: middling in the grand scheme of thing.

609
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Speaker 8: Could you ever imagine this kind of development system for

610
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Speaker 8: American football, you know, like we're talking all about hockey

611
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Speaker 8: and all these different sports where they have you know,

612
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Speaker 8: and I am she's probably a little bit of an

613
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Speaker 8: example of it. But it's funny that like the biggest

614
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Speaker 8: sport in our league or and in the you know,

615
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Speaker 8: in our country, and the sport that we're most proud

616
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Speaker 8: of and think we dominate, like we don't really do this,

617
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Speaker 8: Like a lot of it is just I started playing

618
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Speaker 8: second year.

619
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Speaker 5: Of high school and he was six with five three thirty.

620
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Speaker 1: And the end of you know what I mean, Like

621
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Speaker 1: there's a lot more of it than you think, like

622
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Speaker 1: it will. I mean, there's a lot of people that

623
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Speaker 1: you know.

624
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Speaker 5: But organized.

625
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Speaker 7: You know Steve Burton, Okay, who's on Patriots All Access

626
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 7: with us. He's a local legend here and you know

627
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 7: CBS for Boston. His son, Austin was a terrific high

628
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 7: school quarterback in Newton. He played in Florida. Yeah, that

629
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 7: happens all the time, all the time. You just don't

630
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 7: know about him all the time because this just happens

631
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Speaker 7: to be one with, you know, kind of school. He

632
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 7: went on Factory in Florida.

633
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Speaker 2: You have to like have residency, like well, the academies

634
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 2: are different, but like even if you live like in Pennsylvania.

635
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Speaker 2: And I know this because my son's cousin was a

636
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 2: really good hockey player and he lived in Harrisburg, but

637
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Speaker 2: there was another school in another town that was more.

638
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 1: Of a hockey school that would be Everett High.

639
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Speaker 2: So his father rented an apartment there so he could

640
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Speaker 2: claim residency so his kid could go to that school.

641
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I hear you, guy, they're saying, I

642
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 8: just see like they're talking about like the organization of

643
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 8: it and how regiment it is. Where this is like

644
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 8: a specific school is specific good and they go you

645
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 8: know where it's not one body.

646
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Speaker 7: I'll try to remember when you're doing the draft process

647
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 7: next year.

648
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: YouTube dorks, Right, yeah.

649
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 7: Think of the same think of the same school in Texas.

650
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 7: Just will just keep coming up.

651
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: Its St.

652
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Speaker 5: Thomas Aquinas.

653
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Speaker 1: They talk about all.

654
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Speaker 7: Of them in Florida, right, like the ones that James

655
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 7: how are possible Joe Bernard and James White and all

656
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 7: these guys all went to the same school. I wonder

657
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 7: how there's there's kind of the Ohio where it's Don

658
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 7: Bosco Prepp in New Jersey, there is you know, you

659
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 7: know modern Day in California. It's not a coincidence that

660
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 7: Jesus good every year, right, But you know there's a

661
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 7: football factor.

662
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Speaker 8: It's all having not like the National American Football development.

663
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Speaker 2: You know, it's not.

664
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Speaker 1: Like it's not an international sport.

665
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Speaker 7: It's not under that umbrella, but it is the same

666
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 7: basic concept. There's one there was a tremendous documentary I

667
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 7: watched on one in Baltimore, and I forget the I

668
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 7: forget the name of the school, but I think it

669
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Speaker 7: was like, uh Pogy, I think was the coach Tom Pogy,

670
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Speaker 7: and they had all of these different at like Blake

671
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 7: Korham went there and he ended up going to Michigan.

672
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 7: And obviously I was with the Rams. The school existed

673
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 7: for no other reason than to develop football players. That

674
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 7: was why the school was created. So they do have them,

675
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 7: but it's just not as yeah, and it's and it's

676
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Speaker 7: not like I don't think you sign a contract when

677
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 7: you're twelve, you know, in mess easy, because I.

678
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Speaker 1: Think it's just like different because our D one college

679
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 1: programs will develop these sports. Like if you go to

680
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: Kentucky or Duke or North Carolina to play basketball, you

681
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 1: were going to give yourself every chance to go to

682
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: the NBA if you have the talent. But if you

683
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 1: can't do that in soccer, because if you go to

684
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Speaker 1: North Carolina for soccer, you're not going to be anywhere

685
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: near as good.

686
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 7: But if you want to play basketball at do or Carolina,

687
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 7: you're not doing it from ever high school.

688
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: Or not as much anymore.

689
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 7: You need to go to like at the very least

690
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Speaker 7: one of the prep schools in New England probably even

691
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Speaker 7: more so like one of the AAU programs, you know,

692
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 7: one of the you only.

693
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Speaker 1: Really do that for like the enemy, like the end

694
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Speaker 1: of high school, like you go there for like a

695
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 1: year or two, like de Bonza went, you do.

696
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 10: Until your sophomore year and like your home.

697
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Speaker 1: Run and right, so like you know de Bonza, he

698
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 1: did it. Yeah, he played out in Utah for like

699
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: a year though, and then he went to BYU. Like

700
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 1: you know that, it's not like you're going to move

701
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 1: the process. But he wouldn't play at Brockton High. He

702
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: didn't play at Brockton High. He played at a prep

703
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: school in New England, then went to the place in Utah.

704
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 1: I understand, but he didn't is what I'm talking about.

705
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: Not everybody can do that. But then he goes to

706
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 1: you know, like our college basketball is good enough to

707
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: develop them on its own, where like our college saw

708
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: and our high school soccer isn't good enough. So like that,

709
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 1: you know.

710
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 7: That's you said it yesterday and you were right. It's

711
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 7: a chicken of the egg. Yeah, And I think you

712
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 7: and I probably will always disagree on it, but you

713
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 7: would Neither one of us is right.

714
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: Neither one of us is wrong. Well, isn't We can't

715
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 1: prove each other right wrong because I can't go back

716
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 1: in time and put Tyreek kill in a soccer academy.

717
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Speaker 7: And you know, my whole point is moved because of that.

718
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 7: I can't prove that Stefan Diggs would be a tremendous

719
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 7: soccer player, but that's my belief.

720
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Speaker 1: I just watch his feet, and I just say, like, if.

721
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,720
Speaker 7: If he grew up playing, if he grew up playing

722
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,919
Speaker 7: soccer his whole life when he was five years old,

723
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Speaker 7: doing the stuff that Alex was.

724
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: Talking about earlier.

725
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 7: Okay, three two, I mean it is organized daycare as

726
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 7: I like to call it.

727
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Speaker 1: Two.

728
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:49,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, Like those feet athletics. I think that would translate

729
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 7: to that sport. Not a big guy.

730
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Speaker 1: That's that's why, like I didn't want to Lebron.

731
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,240
Speaker 10: Because I would be the perfect person.

732
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Speaker 7: There's plenty of five ten guys that are just at

733
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Speaker 7: a different level of skill and talent.

734
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Speaker 1: I just wonder if they would get the development Muggsy bogues,

735
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 1: you know, like maybe if they got recognized and they

736
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Speaker 1: got brought to Europe to play out their teenage drop

737
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 1: rigs in Rio. Yeah, but but he wants to develop

738
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Speaker 1: held America. I think no, Yeah, that's why I said.

739
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 1: That's why I said, you're not wrong about the development. Yeah. Yeah,

740
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 1: even though I kind of think you I know you do.

741
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: It's so like you're so classic.

742
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 9: It's all we would be water there.

743
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 10: It's a very not an argument.

744
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: Because it's a very rareed thing.

745
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 10: It's a different point that you're all making to the

746
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:39,800
Speaker 10: same argument.

747
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:44,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, we do have some Patriots emails and questions coming

748
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,240
Speaker 2: in thirty six minutes.

749
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 10: You're probably like, please.

750
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, Dylan and Alabama wants wants to know. It's it's

751
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 2: a you know, it's a hypothetical, but uh a J.

752
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 2: Brown and Romeo Dobbs. Will that be enough to beat

753
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 2: the Seahawks in Week one? That addition.

754
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: Better? I mean they have enough talent to beat him.

755
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, it's it's one game. I

756
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 1: don't know.

757
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 2: I would say, tell me how the offensive line plays, yeah,

758
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 2: and if it plays really well, I'd say.

759
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean tell me how Drake plays.

760
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 8: Tell me how you know, what do you learned from

761
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 8: the super Bowl? You know what did the Patriots coaching

762
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 8: staff learned from the Super.

763
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 5: Bowl about how they attack them?

764
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,879
Speaker 8: You know what does Mike McDonald do differently and throw

765
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 8: some curve balls.

766
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Speaker 5: He's a good Such a.

767
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,760
Speaker 1: Different game than the Super Bowl, Like it's an opening

768
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: game of the season, and they've had some turnover, like

769
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,320
Speaker 1: they're obviously Klint Kubiak is gone and coach of the

770
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 1: Raiders now and Kenneth Walker is no longer there, so

771
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 1: that they've had some some change in Seattle that I

772
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 1: assume is going to maybe take a little while to

773
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Speaker 1: take hold. So it's just a completely different animal than

774
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Speaker 1: playing a team that's peaking in the Super Bowl versus

775
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Speaker 1: playing them right out of the gate and a season opener.

776
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I do find a fascinating though to you know,

777
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 8: what else do you have to go off of, Like

778
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 8: what do they say about that game?

779
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:02,359
Speaker 3: Though?

780
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:03,439
Speaker 5: You know, what do they say? Work?

781
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 8: What do we say Josh? I know, Josh McDaniel is

782
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 8: a smart guy. What's he gonna what's how is he

783
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 8: going to try to adjust? And I'm sure Mike McDonald's thinking,

784
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 8: how am I going to adjust to his adjustments? And

785
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 8: you know they're at least at that level with Josh's

786
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 8: offense and Mike McDonald's defense, there's you know, probably some

787
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 8: schematic carryover and like, you know, like, I mean, what else.

788
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: Are you going to do? Like you haven't played a

789
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: game in between them, so you know, on the.

790
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 5: Other side of the ball. Just let's run at the edges.

791
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 5: Let's see if they can stop the run anymore.

792
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:35,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's see. Andrew writes in can you guys please

793
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 2: teach Fred how to pronounce lomu in acus? It drives

794
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 2: me crazy ands uh hearing him mispronounce their names every day. Also,

795
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 2: another issue with soccer in the US is there aren't

796
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 2: enough coaches to go around for all these clubs and

797
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 2: academy teams. Landon Donovan spoke recently about how many times

798
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 2: you have one coach coaching five or six different teams

799
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 2: at once, which just leads to volunteers helping out who

800
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:01,479
Speaker 2: have no idea what the hell they're doing.

801
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 1: At Evans point, they're coaching. Yeah, yeah, I just you know,

802
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: I'm always going to be a coach, coaching and developing

803
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: talent kind of guy, because I think as a country

804
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 1: we have great athletes, so don't I don't think that

805
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: we don't have the athletes to field a great soccer team.

806
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,879
Speaker 1: I think we don't have the development to do it.

807
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:23,359
Speaker 1: Maybe we are getting there.

808
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 2: My kids played lacrosse, and if he if he had

809
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 2: just stayed playing his town team and hadn't gone to

810
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 2: a club team, he wouldn't have gone to college to

811
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 2: play lacrosse because he wasn't you need to. I always

812
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 2: call it the three c's, coaching, competition, and cost. As

813
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 2: a parent, you have to be willing to give your

814
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 2: kid all three of them. In today's world to get

815
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 2: to where you want to.

816
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 9: One thing I would say that's different around the time

817
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 9: of like when your son and I were growing up,

818
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,760
Speaker 9: is that if you were playing club you were good enough.

819
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 9: Like it's I think now they kind of kids get

820
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 9: preyed on. There's a teams, B teams, C teams, and

821
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:00,959
Speaker 9: they'll take your money and throw your.

822
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 5: Kid on a C team, you know what, the super

823
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 5: elite team.

824
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, and then you have to pay for the program.

825
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 9: You know, Like when I was growing up, if you

826
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 9: played club soccer, you were really good.

827
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 10: You know, it was just different.

828
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that definitely is true, Like especially with his

829
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: sport like lacrosse, where repetition is so important because it's

830
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 1: it's not a trained skill to throw in catch and

831
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 1: be able to do the things with the lacrosse sticks,

832
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: so you have to kind of learn how to do it.

833
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 1: And uh, as soon as I started playing club, I

834
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: got exponentially better, like because I was just playing so much.

835
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 1: Whereas when I just kind of spring would roll around

836
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 1: and I'd pick up the stick and dust it off

837
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: in march and get a run on the field, like

838
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: it's not it's not the same as when we started

839
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 1: playing all the time.

840
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 2: Adam and Louisyanna. I went to high school with Justin Reid,

841
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 2: current Saints safety. He played soccer through middle school and

842
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 2: freshman year he was worlds more athletic than everyone else

843
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 2: in our grade. Then sophomore year he chose to focus

844
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 2: on football and never look back. Eric Reid, his eldest brother,

845
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 2: also focused on football. They both made it to the

846
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 2: NFL and were great players. They have a third brother

847
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 2: between them, in ages, Ryan Reid. He was just as athletic,

848
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 2: but shows soccer. He never got anywhere near the same

849
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 2: level of notoriety as them. That's why our athletes don't

850
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 2: choose soccer now. There is also a mindset aspect as well.

851
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 2: Ryan was never as physical on the soccer field as Justin.

852
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 2: He preferred to run around you rather than through you,

853
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 2: which doesn't always translate to football.

854
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure justin Reid, God, it is like an

855
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:38,839
Speaker 1: emergency kicker for the team, playing kickoffs and stuff like that.

856
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: There you go.

857
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 5: I love super athletes.

858
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:48,320
Speaker 2: Let's see Chad is in Dallas. What's up, Chad?

859
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: Hey?

860
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Speaker 3: How's it going y'all?

861
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:51,399
Speaker 1: Kay?

862
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 3: I was wondering, is there if I changed topic on

863
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 3: how to fix the NFL instead of talking about soccer?

864
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 7: Absolutely not can how to fix the NFL's broken, Yes.

865
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 3: And what I mean about that is like the development

866
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:11,240
Speaker 3: players and stuff. So me, me and my neighbor always

867
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 3: talk about this on our back porches for hoops and giggles,

868
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,879
Speaker 3: and we always said, why can't the teams hire want

869
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,919
Speaker 3: to be coaches and stuff like that, hire eighteen year old,

870
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 3: ninete year old twenty year olds to come just say

871
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 3: they work for Robert Kraft. They can develop techniques and stuff.

872
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 3: They can get the NFL neck with the skinless chicken

873
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 3: and all that, and get rid of the college prospect

874
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 3: and all that. The peak people that didn't have a

875
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 3: choice to go to college or something. You can pay

876
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 3: them whatever a salary for a year or so, have

877
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,800
Speaker 3: them on. Some want to be football team that Barbara

878
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 3: Kraft has, and then he can do that with across

879
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:56,720
Speaker 3: the whole NFL and maybe do scrimmishes and say you can't,

880
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 3: you can't. You can't hire nobody from that whatever team

881
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 3: you want to call it, whatever you want to call it.

882
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,280
Speaker 3: They have to be in a contract for two years first,

883
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 3: and then maybe have some some special draft for those

884
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 3: kind of players or something.

885
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 12: No.

886
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 2: I I I've thought of things like that before. Chad too.

887
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 2: It's like it's that alternate path to go into college.

888
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 2: Like I want to play football. I'm making no bones

889
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 2: about it. That's what i want to do. It's like

890
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 2: almost going into a trade school after high school rather

891
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 2: than going to college. I'm going to go to a

892
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 2: football school. I'm going to get a job playing football.

893
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: Why would you do that when you could go to

894
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:34,800
Speaker 1: go to D one college?

895
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 3: They can't.

896
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 7: But this is your because you're not smart enough, because

897
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 7: this is perfect time for you because you don't have

898
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 7: to be You think that do you think that.

899
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,479
Speaker 1: You think that they're worried about how smart the kids?

900
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 2: Well? I don't know.

901
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: Nevertheless, so than right now.

902
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 2: So what you're saying then, is that our n C

903
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 2: double a D one is what Chad is, but now

904
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 2: it is now it.

905
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 1: Is Yeah, it's basically pro football. Yeah, it's it's it

906
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 1: is pro football. I mean what's happened is like crazy,

907
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: like it is profole.

908
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 2: That's the NFL's developmental League.

909
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: Yes, the SEC is basically like a yeah, you know,

910
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: like you know how the NBA has league or you

911
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 1: know the MLB has the minor league system and when

912
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 1: baseball that that's the SEC. You know, like that that

913
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 1: that's what that is for football. I mean, you're not

914
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 1: going to get better competition and better resources than going

915
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: to one of those schools like Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State.

916
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 1: Like I mean the facilities.

917
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 2: AFL be subsidizing these schools.

918
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:38,800
Speaker 1: They probably are, you think, so, I mean maybe I

919
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 1: shouldn't have said. I mean it's the same thing as

920
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: like you know, look at like Indiana. Indiana all of

921
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:49,240
Speaker 1: a sudden just becomes this football powerhouse because Mark Cuban

922
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: got really into his alma mater and now he just

923
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: bankrolls Indiana football. You know, like that that's just that's

924
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 1: just the way it is, and that's the way it's

925
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 1: set up with NFL. I don't think that they need

926
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 1: that for like high school and college. I think we

927
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,959
Speaker 1: have a high school and college breeding ground.

928
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 2: This is a big shift, a big idea, and maybe

929
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 2: a dumb one. But what if down the road, sometime

930
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 2: in the future, pie in the sky, the NFL and

931
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 2: college and c DOAA get together and say we're going

932
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 2: to move the college football season to the spring. So

933
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 2: now college football is now a spring sport for what?

934
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:29,879
Speaker 1: For what end?

935
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 2: So that the NFL could get more involved with, like

936
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 2: maybe having coaches on campus and being more involved with

937
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 2: the programs.

938
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 1: I don't know if that is that solving a problem

939
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 1: that I don't know you solved.

940
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:44,399
Speaker 2: I don't know.

941
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 7: I'm just like, I don't know, get out of that.

942
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,800
Speaker 2: They would have and they would have all the TV

943
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 2: to themselves, so maybe it would be more money. I

944
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 2: don't know.

945
00:44:57,920 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 8: Sounds like the NFL is like, you know, go to

946
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 8: the spring, you're on TV, you know, try to get

947
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 8: them off.

948
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,240
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I don't THEE would yeah.

949
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:08,240
Speaker 9: I guess, yeah, I don't know what, but it seems

950
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 9: I don't know, like I don't think we would be

951
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 9: impacted by it.

952
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 10: But imagine like a die hard SEC fanly a diehard.

953
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 1: Operation some adjustment.

954
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 2: Could you see any benefits from having two football seasons,

955
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 2: one for n c Double A and one for the NFL.

956
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 7: I wouldn't like it personally, but it's not about me personally.

957
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 7: I'm trying to figure out what the pros are for that,

958
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 7: Like what what what?

959
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 2: Like?

960
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: What do you? What is the What does the NFL

961
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 1: get out of that?

962
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 2: So all the focus, all the focus and scouting can

963
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 2: be focused on college.

964
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 1: But that's what it is. That's what scouts do.

965
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 2: But I don't know, So I don't know.

966
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 7: Basically, you're saying, so the scouts can watch the Patriots

967
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 7: play on Sunday instead of doing their job.

968
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:53,399
Speaker 5: For the scouts.

969
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:58,359
Speaker 9: But which colleges get reps from the NFL teams? There's

970
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 9: only thirty two teams, which funds? Well?

971
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 1: Do they? I think college has football has a lot

972
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 1: bigger issues, don't worry about before we start moving. I mean,

973
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: the college football set up right now is kind of

974
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: a not just kind of it is a mess.

975
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:18,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, you'll get your SEC Big ten, you know, split

976
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 7: away from the NCAA.

977
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 1: That's coming sooner.

978
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 2: Well, I think they're going to come up with that

979
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 2: power league at some point.

980
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 1: I think that that's the best thing to do.

981
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 3: Now.

982
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,800
Speaker 1: I know that the die hard like Sicico college football fans,

983
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:32,720
Speaker 1: you know, are would like rather see anything than to

984
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 1: lose the conference rivalries and stuff like that. That's gone.

985
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:37,760
Speaker 1: But I think the thing that makes the most sense

986
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 1: is to take like basically create actually not to like

987
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: make it about soccer, but create like a system that's

988
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: similar to England and you know soccer in England where

989
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 1: there's like a pyramid of relegation and so you have

990
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 1: like a top tier that's like the top thirty two

991
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 1: teams in the country and then like the bottom three

992
00:46:57,960 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 1: get relegated in the top three and you kind of

993
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,439
Speaker 1: have it go up and down like that. Other rather

994
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 1: than having like, you know, these these conferences that have

995
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 1: just become a mess, where like there's teams that are

996
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:13,399
Speaker 1: West Coast conferences that are in like the ACC. It's

997
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: like it's called the Atlantic Coast Conference, and we have

998
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 1: you know, a team in Collen Stanford cow. It's perfect sense,

999
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: you know.

1000
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:23,720
Speaker 2: So why do in baseball, why do some people play

1001
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,280
Speaker 2: minor league baseball and some people go to college.

1002
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 7: It's a good question, and I would say probably money

1003
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 7: is a factor, and we'll see if some of that

1004
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 7: changes now, yeah, because the same thing is starting to

1005
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:40,760
Speaker 7: happen in baseball, especially in the SEC.

1006
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 1: Again, you can make some money playing baseball now.

1007
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 7: The transport portal is huge in all sports, not just

1008
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 7: football and basketball. It runs rampant in all of the

1009
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 7: sports now, So there's money to be had. So it'd

1010
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 7: be interesting to see if more players start to go

1011
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,800
Speaker 7: to college. I would say most young kids out of

1012
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 7: high school that go right to the minors probably just

1013
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 7: want to paycheck that they're good enough to sign and

1014
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 7: get you know, a couple of million in signing bonus,

1015
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 7: and they go.

1016
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that. Uh you know, I had some

1017
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 1: friends that that were good enough to play baseball and

1018
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 1: at least at the minor league level, and a lot

1019
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 1: of it is what James is kind of talking about,

1020
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,720
Speaker 1: like their parents force them to go to college, because

1021
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 1: even if you go into minor league baseball, you're still

1022
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 1: one in a million that you're going to be a

1023
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 1: big league player, right, So, like what happens if in

1024
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 1: three years of minor league baseball just you know, you

1025
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 1: flunk out and then now you don't have a college degree.

1026
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 1: Now you're not playing baseball anymore. Like what's the path

1027
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 1: for you in life. So Sony's yeah, so a lot

1028
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:42,800
Speaker 1: of ill just go back to college. But that's good,

1029
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:44,399
Speaker 1: but that's why you might have.

1030
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,760
Speaker 10: To pay for it. But like you just made millions, Well.

1031
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know it's easier said than done to

1032
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 1: just go back to college.

1033
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 7: So if you're projected to be, say like a top

1034
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:59,439
Speaker 7: five round pick in baseball, and I agree with with Evan,

1035
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 7: like it's or crapsh you whether or not you're going

1036
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 7: to make it. So I can take the guaranteed money.

1037
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 7: I'm going to get money to sign and I can go.

1038
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 7: And if I play two or three years and I don't,

1039
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,439
Speaker 7: you know, and I crap out and it doesn't work.

1040
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: At least I got some money. I made a couple

1041
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 1: of million.

1042
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 7: If I go to college and I'm not that good

1043
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 7: and I crap out, now I'm no longer a top

1044
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:23,839
Speaker 7: five pick, top five round. I'm saying, not top five

1045
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:27,280
Speaker 7: in the first Like, you know, I'm not as valuable

1046
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 7: because I just went to college and I kind of

1047
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:31,479
Speaker 7: proved maybe I was a big fish in a little

1048
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 7: pond in high school, but I'm not that good and

1049
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 7: now I have no money to fall back on.

1050
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 9: There's just too many ways to make money without a

1051
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 9: college degree, now, right, it's not right? Yeah, what if

1052
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 9: you play minor league baseball, there's a very easy path

1053
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 9: to being an influencer or a hitting coach on YouTube.

1054
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 1: But I don't know if like our parents, No, our

1055
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 1: parents are different.

1056
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 10: This is how the mindset I would have.

1057
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, but when we were growing away from our parents

1058
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 1: were still like, to college and you get a degree,

1059
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 1: and you know, that's that's the path. And I think

1060
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 1: you know a lot of my friends ended up playing

1061
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 1: uh D one college baseball instead of going to the

1062
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 1: minor leagues because of that, because their parents were like, no,

1063
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,800
Speaker 1: you're gonna go get a degree and if baseball works out, great,

1064
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 1: but we're not you know, counting on that.

1065
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 5: What was a Schlitler's development, Like, how was.

1066
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 1: He a trader?

1067
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 5: I knew that was coming. Yeah, but how long was

1068
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 5: he in Northeastern?

1069
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 2: Just two years? I think?

1070
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1071
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:29,799
Speaker 7: And now obviously he he hit. He panned out when

1072
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 7: he went to college. But to Fred's point, now, I

1073
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 7: think you might see more kids go to college because they.

1074
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:36,720
Speaker 1: Can get both.

1075
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 2: Yep.

1076
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 7: They can start a college education for free and make money.

1077
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 7: In a lot of cases, that's going to be at

1078
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 7: least commensurate to what you would have made if you signed,

1079
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 7: because not everybody gets millions to sign, only the very

1080
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 7: select few, right.

1081
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 2: You know, I've had this rant before on this show.

1082
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 2: I believe, but you know, you're talking about the development

1083
00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 2: and in particular football in this country, and we know

1084
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 2: it's hurting. Participation in tackle football has gone down. I

1085
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 2: think the whole concussion thing really hurt tackle football and

1086
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 2: all that, and it's a shame and the league, the

1087
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 2: NFL should spend as much time promoting tackle football as

1088
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 2: it does flag football these days. In my opinion, flag

1089
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 2: football is not a pathway to tackle football. It's not

1090
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 2: a way to grow the game tackle football. And the

1091
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 2: league has a serious problem on its hand when it

1092
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 2: comes to the talent pool. It could be one of

1093
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,720
Speaker 2: the reasons why they want to go overseas, but even then,

1094
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 2: you know, there's not gonna be a lot of tackle

1095
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 2: NFL expansion if you can't also expand the talent pool. Uh,

1096
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,720
Speaker 2: And that's becoming a problem. So I think the league

1097
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 2: has to put on as big boy pants and not

1098
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:52,760
Speaker 2: worry about the whole concussion I'm not saying that safety

1099
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 2: shouldn't be still emphasized in football. It should be. And

1100
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 2: concussions are real. I'm not not saying they're not, but

1101
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 2: concussions are real. And every physical sport, including soccer, by

1102
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:06,320
Speaker 2: the way, which I think has as high a concussion

1103
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 2: rate as tackle football, you know when you know, with

1104
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 2: the heading and all that stuff. So yeah, so so

1105
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:18,800
Speaker 2: football needs to embrace NFL needs to embrace tackle football

1106
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:22,879
Speaker 2: at the youth level and start promoting its participation and

1107
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 2: getting as much back involved in tackle football as it

1108
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 2: is currently with flag football. End of rant.

1109
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:31,919
Speaker 1: I think that there's some advantages to playing flag though,

1110
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 1: like it's not like for for some people. Yeah, for

1111
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 1: the skill positions especially, you know, I mean definitely teaches

1112
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 1: you how you know to like if you want to

1113
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 1: be a receiver, like you're catching the ball still and

1114
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 1: you're still getting open, and you're still running routes, and

1115
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,479
Speaker 1: people's got to cover the people that are running the routes.

1116
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:50,799
Speaker 1: So like I think the passing game as a whole,

1117
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 1: it definitely teaches it. The physicality part absolutely not you

1118
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 1: know what kills me.

1119
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:56,919
Speaker 8: I mean, I've watched en a flag football with my son,

1120
00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 8: who loves it, but it's just the stupid grabbing the flag.

1121
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 8: It's I mean, you know, a kid's running full speed,

1122
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:04,799
Speaker 8: he jumps up, does a helicopter. You know, all these

1123
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 8: kids are like trying to get it, and then he

1124
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:09,319
Speaker 8: just keeps running right through everybody. And it's like, I

1125
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:11,360
Speaker 8: get so frustrated watching when I'm just like I just

1126
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 8: want to wrap somebody.

1127
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:13,359
Speaker 5: Oh I can tackle him.

1128
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, trying to grab a flag. There's no way to

1129
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 2: prove this.

1130
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 1: I hate it.

1131
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 2: There's no way to prove this. But in an alternate universe,

1132
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:24,720
Speaker 2: if the development of football in our country was flag

1133
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 2: or touch or not physical, it would not be as

1134
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:31,320
Speaker 2: popular as the NFL would not have become the powerhouse

1135
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 2: it is if it wasn't a physical game like it is.

1136
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 2: That's what makes football unique. American football. Flag football, if

1137
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 2: it started one hundred years ago, would not have the

1138
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 2: popularity that the NFL has said.

1139
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:46,479
Speaker 8: It's so funny hearing you say this spread too, because

1140
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 8: now I'm realizing, like you don't hear the NFL promoting

1141
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:50,320
Speaker 8: youth football.

1142
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 2: It's all flags. They're afraid. Oh you know parents are

1143
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 2: going you're promoting this dangerous sport. Okay, well they need

1144
00:53:59,160 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 2: to stop.

1145
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 1: I mean at some point you need to play tackle.

1146
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 1: I think when you're like in the third grade. Like

1147
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 1: I played tackle football in elementary school and got my

1148
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 1: bell rung a bunch of times because I was small

1149
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 1: and the concussion. Yeah, and like, you know, I don't

1150
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,839
Speaker 1: know if that was what's best thirty three I don't

1151
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 1: remember so well.

1152
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 2: So exhibit A.

1153
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 1: I played all the sports except soccer because I was terrible.

1154
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 2: But did you not get your belt wrung or injuries

1155
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 2: in those The only.

1156
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 1: Other sport I got my bell rung in was lacrosse.

1157
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 2: Okay, but maybe we shouldn't have to playing lacrosse used not.

1158
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 10: As much as failed the concussion test.

1159
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:39,720
Speaker 1: At the beginning of the year. Across definitely, he definitely,

1160
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 1: oh I know you did that.

1161
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 2: They lowered their baseline.

1162
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 10: Who didn't It was like not encouraged by any insult favorite,

1163
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 10: but like, I'm not going to call it.

1164
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 1: I would actually I would actually get in.

1165
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 10: An upperclassman was like, hey, if you bomb in.

1166
00:54:57,239 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 1: That, I'll never know. I gifted a couple of times.

1167
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 2: I still have a bump on the back of my

1168
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 2: head from when Michael Mesdi I was up in the

1169
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 2: air catching the ball in the playground I'm playing on

1170
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 2: tar and he hit me and I landed on my head,

1171
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 2: blood everywhere. That's not playing football. I mean, so what

1172
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 2: are we gonna you know, like we got to get

1173
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:22,760
Speaker 2: over this safety. Yes, they you know, improvement in helmets,

1174
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 2: improvement in rules.

1175
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 10: Absolutely, car accident and.

1176
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 2: Absolutely we should encourage all of that. But NFL, you

1177
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 2: got to get back to promoting tackle football at the

1178
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 2: youth level.

1179
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 5: I just wander the right way to right.

1180
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 1: They middle school and they're already playing tackle football at

1181
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 1: that point, because like I think you can start usually

1182
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 1: in most places at least by like the seventh or

1183
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 1: eighth grade. Ye, Like you don't think that's enough time

1184
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:49,360
Speaker 1: from the seventh grade to all the way through college.

1185
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 7: But player participation, that friend's right, it's way way like

1186
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 7: so many teams that.

1187
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 2: Used to have varsity, JV and freshman.

1188
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 1: Here or like in like Texas, No, if you want

1189
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 1: to go, but we need more than just Texas.

1190
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 7: Teas, Texas, Texas border in California can't do it all

1191
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 7: all the time.

1192
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 1: I mean, or like even like like you know, like

1193
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 1: the Ohio area is a very popular.

1194
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 2: Football western Yeah, yeah, there's like you know, still a

1195
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 2: half a dozen to ten hot beds of football. But

1196
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 2: that's not enough. It's not enough.

1197
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 1: Maybe not. I I just I look at the skill

1198
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 1: of the game today, even compared to what it was

1199
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 1: when I was a kid. I think that they're you know,

1200
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 1: I think that you could make the argument that a

1201
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:44,800
Speaker 1: lot of those skill positions are never never been deeper.

1202
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 2: That's the same with every sport.

1203
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 1: But that's because, like you know, these kids, they they're playing,

1204
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:54,359
Speaker 1: even flag football is still teaching the skills of like

1205
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:57,360
Speaker 1: catching a ball and throwing a ball and defending a pass.

1206
00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 2: Every sport you can say the same thing is training

1207
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 2: is better.

1208
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 1: I think it's because the training and nutrition is better.

1209
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 2: Could be, you know, So that's the same with every sport.

1210
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 1: It could be. I just think that people are bigger.

1211
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:13,800
Speaker 1: I just don't think that there's I guess with flag

1212
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 1: football in particular, I just don't think that it's like

1213
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 1: worthless to have kids playing.

1214
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 2: I didn't say it's worthless. And I'm not saying that

1215
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 2: the NFL should stop getting involved in flat football. I'm

1216
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 2: saying they should be as involved in tackle football as

1217
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 2: they currently are in flag football. That's all at the

1218
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 2: youth level, that's all I'm saying.

1219
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 7: I think it's it's getting to a critical point. I

1220
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 7: think football is dying, like in the youth levels. This

1221
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 7: just my little high school with my kids went to,

1222
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 7: Like there was like sixty five kids when Will was

1223
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 7: a freshman. I went to the Thanksgiving game last year.

1224
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 7: They barely had thirty four. Thirty four to thirty five

1225
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 7: kids in uniform. That's the whole program. To Fred's point,

1226
00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 7: this is a program that used to have varsity JV

1227
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 7: in freshman games. Now they have thirty four kids total dressed.

1228
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 10: But are they playing? That was my question.

1229
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 9: Are these kids even playing sports in the numbers you

1230
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 9: have to, I.

1231
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 1: Don't know, but they're not playing football anymore.

1232
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 7: They are, and the organizations all over Eastern Masts are

1233
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 7: just shuddered.

1234
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 2: And and I'll say another thing about tackle football and

1235
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 2: why the NFL should be helping to promote it. The

1236
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 2: benefits that your kid gets from being on a football team,

1237
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 2: I think outweigh any dangers that there are. I'm serious, like,

1238
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 2: there is a lot of benefit to being on It's

1239
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 2: the greatest team sport ever invented. And I know the

1240
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 2: soccer people will hurt kill me for that, but it's true.

1241
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 2: There's people of all sizes. There's different positions. Every position

1242
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 2: has a role, and you look on the field and

1243
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 2: they're all different sizes.

1244
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 1: Spy and no.

1245
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 2: Football is the greatest team sport ever invented, and the

1246
00:58:56,680 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 2: benefits of and the you know, what's required to be

1247
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 2: on a football team helps your kid immensely, immensely. Some

1248
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 2: of the most successful people in our country played football.

1249
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 1: I mean, there's no doubt that that in sports in

1250
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 1: general that yeah, I you know, but they have to

1251
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 1: be playing something. If they're not playing football in the fall,

1252
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 1: then they're But it might not be that they're playing

1253
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 1: another fall sport. It might be that they're they're playing

1254
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 1: au basketball, or they're playing you know, club lacrosse or

1255
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 1: like whatever, you know, whatever it is. I hope it's

1256
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 1: not that they got like these kids are. We're not

1257
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 1: like I mean, is it really that like dark like

1258
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 1: they have to be.

1259
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 10: Playing I mean a similar thing with fielding, high school teams.

1260
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 7: Hockey programs that die in every way too. Now, that

1261
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 7: to me is more about it's more about academies.

1262
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 1: If you're any good, you're.

1263
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 5: Going somewhere prep schools.

1264
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 8: Yeah it is, But I mean my school and Sharon

1265
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 8: just combined with Detam, so the same thing, Paul, And

1266
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 8: I remember when I went out for freshman.

1267
00:59:57,640 --> 00:59:58,920
Speaker 5: Football and we had.

1268
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 8: Varsity JV and a freshman team, and you had the

1269
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 8: numbers to support that, and now it's it's sad. And

1270
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 8: I mean, you know, I remember when Sharon play King

1271
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 8: Phillip a couple of years ago, which King Philip, you know,

1272
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 8: one of the best schools in the state.

1273
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 1: They like this and you just look.

1274
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 8: At the sidelines and you're like, there's like twenty five

1275
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:20,080
Speaker 8: undersized kids who the uniforms barely fit them.

1276
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 5: And then it looks like there's an NFL.

1277
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 8: Team on the other side with like zolac Son is

1278
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 8: the backup quarterback and he's like sixt five to twenty.

1279
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 5: You know, it's it's striking.

1280
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Speaker 2: If you're gonna play the game boy, you gotta learn

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Speaker 2: to play it right.

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Speaker 1: DraftKings is all about responsible game. It's more fun when

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Speaker 1: it's for fun, so played responsibly. Draft Kings the crown

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Speaker 1: is yours.

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Speaker 5: Gambling problem called twenty one plus. Agent eligibility varies by jurisdiction.

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Speaker 15: I think any I mean the receivers want to get

1329
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 15: open and catch the ball, and the quarterback wants to

1330
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Speaker 15: get it to them. I think that's the simple part.

1331
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:04,040
Speaker 15: I think the working together and the understanding one another

1332
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 15: and what one's capable of and what the other one wants.

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Speaker 15: You know, when the quarterback is looking for something to

1334
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:14,080
Speaker 15: make him comfortable and the receiver thinks he can do this,

1335
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Speaker 15: I think it just there's a dynamic there. It's fun

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Speaker 15: to go through the process of building that, especially with

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01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 15: two very talented players. I would say that that's probably

1338
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Speaker 15: the case for our entire skill group, though they're all

1339
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 15: doing that right now. They take reps with each other.

1340
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 15: Sometimes it's the first rep they've had at something, sometimes

1341
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 15: it's the seventh or tenth or whatever, and you can

1342
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 15: just see the growth as they do it. So more

1343
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 15: repetitions build great habits. That's what we're out here trying

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Speaker 15: to do. And I think those two are are hard

1345
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Speaker 15: at work at trying to do the same thing.

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Speaker 4: But just the game you have this year wide receiver

1347
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 4: reminds me of all of that twenty nineteen group with

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Speaker 4: Julian m Josh Gordon.

1349
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:52,600
Speaker 2: And Tonio Brown.

1350
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 1: And how do you go about managing so.

1351
01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 5: Many talented blathers.

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Speaker 15: I don't know if it reminds me of any group,

1353
01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:02,040
Speaker 15: but you know, I mean, there's a lot of guys

1354
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:06,920
Speaker 15: that can do a lot of interesting things. You know.

1355
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 15: The good thing is is really there's not I don't

1356
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:14,280
Speaker 15: know that there's two guys that are really you know,

1357
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Speaker 15: close to being the same. They all offer different things,

1358
01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:22,720
Speaker 15: different abilities, different skill sets. Our job is just to

1359
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:24,240
Speaker 15: try to figure out how to put them out there

1360
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Speaker 15: and let them have an opportunity to do those things

1361
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Speaker 15: as much as we can. There's other two there's two

1362
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Speaker 15: other skill groups that are involved in that conversation too,

1363
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:34,160
Speaker 15: with the tight ends and in the backs, and you

1364
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:37,680
Speaker 15: guys have seen those guys too, so you know, it's Look,

1365
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Speaker 15: it's fun. This time of the year is really good

1366
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 15: because everybody gets an opportunity to rep and learn and

1367
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:45,040
Speaker 15: make mistakes and then correct it and then learn from

1368
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:47,280
Speaker 15: it and get better. So that's what we're trying to do.

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Speaker 15: And you know, at the end of August as we

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Speaker 15: head into the regular season, hopefully we figured out the

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Speaker 15: best way to do it with the group. Very smart,

1372
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Speaker 15: really he enjoys the game of football and you could

1373
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:08,400
Speaker 15: just tell that he's had a great deal of experience

1374
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:12,160
Speaker 15: at a high level, you know, whether that's route technique,

1375
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:17,840
Speaker 15: understanding coverage, releases, top of the routes, how to do

1376
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 15: certain things you know on in situational football, whatever it

1377
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 15: might be. Uh, He's certainly had a great deal of

1378
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 15: high level experience. You can feel that when you talk

1379
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:32,880
Speaker 15: to him. But he's also really intelligent, understands the game,

1380
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:36,439
Speaker 15: his position, what it takes to be successful. So it's

1381
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Speaker 15: been it's been awesome. I'm I'm excited we have him.

1382
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:42,720
Speaker 15: Look forward to continuing to build our relationship, uh and

1383
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 15: continuing to get him, you know, acclimated to our to

1384
01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 15: our offense.

1385
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Speaker 16: Mike I said yesterday that you and Ashton we're working

1386
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:50,960
Speaker 16: with dread Dahn with an interstates of the line of scrimmage.

1387
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Speaker 2: How do you see him progress that?

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Speaker 15: Yeah, I think I think that's much the same as

1389
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Speaker 15: what we talked about. With everything else that he's doing,

1390
01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:02,439
Speaker 15: you know, he's further ahead and regard. You know, there's

1391
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 15: nothing worse for an offense than negative plays. They kind

1392
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:09,640
Speaker 15: of they put you in bad situations. And we saw

1393
01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 15: that last year. You know, when when that happened to us,

1394
01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:14,280
Speaker 15: you know, it's it's hard to overcome those things. I

1395
01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:19,080
Speaker 15: don't care who you are, so uh, you know, we're

1396
01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 15: just we're trying to do what we can at each position,

1397
01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:25,919
Speaker 15: not just a quarterback, but certainly he has to say

1398
01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:29,560
Speaker 15: in all of those and so I think his comfort level,

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01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:33,400
Speaker 15: I think his maturity and understanding of how bad those

1400
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:37,360
Speaker 15: things are for the offense. I think that's that's taking

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01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:39,680
Speaker 15: a huge step forward. He understands it, he gets it,

1402
01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 15: and so through that, hopefully we'll be much improved in

1403
01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:46,400
Speaker 15: that area when we get to the regular season.

1404
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Speaker 1: When we were talking last week.

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Speaker 16: You made there's not a one for one comparison, but

1406
01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:55,080
Speaker 16: the physical subsproncas like the close thing.

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Speaker 2: When you look at that, do you.

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Speaker 16: Put it on yourself like I gotta hunt this matches

1409
01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:01,440
Speaker 16: for this guy because of decide you's trying to know

1410
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 16: you're early in the process. But is that something that

1411
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:04,760
Speaker 16: goes through your brain when it comes to aga?

1412
01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:10,600
Speaker 15: It depends, you know, it depends on what kind of

1413
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:12,840
Speaker 15: defense you're talking about. Is it a team that plays

1414
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:16,320
Speaker 15: a lot of man and man's own? You know, who

1415
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:17,160
Speaker 15: are the corners?

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01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:17,440
Speaker 11: You know?

1417
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:18,200
Speaker 15: How do they play?

1418
01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:22,040
Speaker 1: You know, I'm sure.

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01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:23,280
Speaker 15: He'd probably be the first one to tell you that

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01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:27,600
Speaker 15: he's he is a mismatch. So I'm not sure how

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01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:30,640
Speaker 15: how long I have to hunt for him. But but

1422
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:34,760
Speaker 15: but I understand the level of player, the scheme, how

1423
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:37,320
Speaker 15: they try to take you know, players away or or

1424
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:40,480
Speaker 15: at least limit them. That impacts all of our decisions

1425
01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:43,400
Speaker 15: every week and how we go about trying to create

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Speaker 15: the best offensive performance for our team. So I think

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Speaker 15: all of that stuff, honestly will kind of play out

1428
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:52,600
Speaker 15: and as we go. I think right now, the biggest

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Speaker 15: thing for us is, you know, learning multiple positions, being

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01:07:55,720 --> 01:07:59,480
Speaker 15: able to handle moving around, understanding what we're doing, how

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01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 15: does it work at the quarterback, getting acclimated in that

1432
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 15: regard so that we're able to do those things if

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01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:07,400
Speaker 15: and when we need to, you know. So, But I

1434
01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:09,960
Speaker 15: don't think that process is going to take long. It's

1435
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:13,120
Speaker 15: very quick learner. And like I said, it's that he's a.

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Speaker 1: And now great moments in.

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Speaker 2: History.

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Speaker 1: She's my lines are way off this week. Yeah, I

1439
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:26,080
Speaker 1: just I don't. I don't believe in.

1440
01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:27,799
Speaker 2: Do you get your lines from Jimmy the Barbers?

1441
01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:30,800
Speaker 7: It's week too to spread and I just I just

1442
01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:32,320
Speaker 7: go to draft cans very nice.

1443
01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:34,320
Speaker 1: Had the same lines as Paul.

1444
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:37,160
Speaker 2: So we go to draft, no draft.

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01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:39,400
Speaker 5: Listening draft.

1446
01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:42,240
Speaker 1: They are presenting sponsor for the post game show. So

1447
01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:45,280
Speaker 1: I think that we should draft. Yeah, I mean show

1448
01:08:45,320 --> 01:08:48,439
Speaker 1: a little of every week you mocking. Can I can't

1449
01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:49,920
Speaker 1: go to you go to draft?

1450
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:51,080
Speaker 2: Why don't you go to draft?

1451
01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:51,439
Speaker 1: I can't.

1452
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:53,640
Speaker 5: I'm not allowed to. Fred I signed a contract.

1453
01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:55,080
Speaker 2: All that you're not allowed probably it's not allowed to

1454
01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:55,400
Speaker 2: use it.

1455
01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:57,360
Speaker 5: Don't You can't even look at it, Paul, they don't

1456
01:08:57,360 --> 01:08:57,680
Speaker 5: even go.

1457
01:08:57,600 --> 01:08:59,160
Speaker 1: To look at it.

1458
01:08:59,160 --> 01:08:59,519
Speaker 2: Every week.

1459
01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:06,479
Speaker 1: You can see every Thursday morning, I grandfather different rules,

1460
01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:09,240
Speaker 1: like this is not serious?

1461
01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:12,040
Speaker 5: Right, that's another great moment.

1462
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:16,920
Speaker 2: All right back here in Patrios on Field today five

1463
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:19,680
Speaker 2: to five past five hundred is the Hotline podcast at

1464
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 2: Patriots dot com. Is the email address. It's Evan, Paul, Me, Deuce,

1465
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:28,439
Speaker 2: Alex and Alex in the booth talking football. We're talking soccer,

1466
01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:31,200
Speaker 2: we're talking you sports, We're talking how to grow the game.

1467
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:34,479
Speaker 2: It's it's all this stuff. It's it's Thursday in the

1468
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:37,800
Speaker 2: off season, the true off season of the NFL, when

1469
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:43,559
Speaker 2: nobody's around, nobody except us except us, So we get

1470
01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:46,000
Speaker 2: to talk about whatever we want, and you get to

1471
01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:48,880
Speaker 2: talk about whatever you want. A lot of people were

1472
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:51,599
Speaker 2: talking about Christian yesterday because they were upset. They think

1473
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:57,400
Speaker 2: he's trolling. But Christian's on the line. Christian, what's going on? Hey?

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01:09:57,400 --> 01:09:58,519
Speaker 12: You I tell you guys.

1475
01:09:58,520 --> 01:09:59,240
Speaker 11: Hey, you guys.

1476
01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:01,280
Speaker 12: No, I'm not I'm not trolling, you know for the

1477
01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:03,519
Speaker 12: little lady in LA that wants me to ask more.

1478
01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:08,360
Speaker 2: Oh, it's more than just one person, Christian. You want

1479
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:10,800
Speaker 2: me to Yeah, yes, have.

1480
01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 11: A whole show of just Christian in LA.

1481
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:14,320
Speaker 12: Hate that would be Mark.

1482
01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:19,559
Speaker 2: I got a feeling you like it. I don't.

1483
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:21,599
Speaker 12: I don't like it, but I understand why I draw.

1484
01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:23,640
Speaker 12: I did a lot of people that want to be

1485
01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 12: radio famous and they just can't.

1486
01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:26,479
Speaker 11: So here we go.

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01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:32,200
Speaker 1: With Okay, all right, Tom, but keep going.

1488
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:35,479
Speaker 12: Yeah, So I'm going to do soccer person then and

1489
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:39,400
Speaker 12: then football soccer wise. I know we've talked about NFL

1490
01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:41,799
Speaker 12: athletes and how they would develop it the soccer players.

1491
01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 12: But based on their exhibited skill set, if the soccer

1492
01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:48,760
Speaker 12: players that we're talking about were to develop or you know,

1493
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:53,160
Speaker 12: from youth to develop into football players, what position athletes

1494
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:54,000
Speaker 12: do you think they would be?

1495
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:54,439
Speaker 14: I e.

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01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:57,479
Speaker 12: They definitely wouldn't be linemen, right, So that's my That's

1497
01:10:57,520 --> 01:11:01,519
Speaker 12: my first question. And then my second question is I

1498
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:04,000
Speaker 12: put together in my own mind a top five on

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01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:06,679
Speaker 12: offense and a top three on defense, and then I said,

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Speaker 12: outside of the top three on offense, who's the one

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01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:13,040
Speaker 12: player that if they had an expectional breakout year, would

1502
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:15,240
Speaker 12: lead the offense to being a top three offense and

1503
01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:18,880
Speaker 12: same thing on defense. So for me, my player was

1504
01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:23,639
Speaker 12: Trevion Henderson, you know, with his potential for a big

1505
01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:25,679
Speaker 12: play and explosive play, his skill set.

1506
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:27,360
Speaker 5: I feel like with the.

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Speaker 12: Expectations that teams are gonna already have made for a J.

1508
01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:34,680
Speaker 12: Brown and the Drake May and maybe vermondre Stevenson and

1509
01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:39,120
Speaker 12: probably Romeo Dobbs outside of them, if this one guy

1510
01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:42,320
Speaker 12: were to have an X factor year, that to me

1511
01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:44,080
Speaker 12: would put them over the top. So and I have

1512
01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:46,439
Speaker 12: a defensive player too. My question for you guys is

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Speaker 12: who's your top five on offense, the top three on defense,

1514
01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:51,680
Speaker 12: and who is the player outside of that list that

1515
01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:56,160
Speaker 12: you feel that if they had a breakout season, they

1516
01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:57,880
Speaker 12: would help help us be in the top three in

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01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:00,880
Speaker 12: the top five And to the lady in LA, is

1518
01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:01,679
Speaker 12: that okay? Now?

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01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:07,280
Speaker 2: All right? Okay, so let's let's go with that.

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Speaker 8: I don't know, I'll just go with Kyle Williams rather

1521
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:11,479
Speaker 8: than name in my top five. I was just somebody

1522
01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:14,679
Speaker 8: outside of the top five who could maybe elevate the team,

1523
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:16,960
Speaker 8: bring an element of speed and you know, just some

1524
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:19,040
Speaker 8: young legs with that receiving group. I think you know

1525
01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:22,240
Speaker 8: hopefully what to expect from Brown and Dobbs, But could

1526
01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:24,240
Speaker 8: you have an X factor guy who just has a

1527
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Speaker 8: really good season.

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Speaker 2: Could someone who hasn't had a season yet have a

1529
01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:30,040
Speaker 2: breakout season. I'm thinking gave ocus if he had a

1530
01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:32,240
Speaker 2: great season, how would that elevate the.

1531
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:35,400
Speaker 5: Probably be a huge help for sure.

1532
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:38,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think if you're not going to say

1533
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:40,960
Speaker 1: Travon Henderson and I feel like Kyle Williams is the

1534
01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:44,200
Speaker 1: other pivot, you know, the year two breakout guy, I

1535
01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:46,720
Speaker 1: don't know. I I this is semantics, I guess, But

1536
01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 1: Travon Henderson had twelve hundred yards as a rookie, like

1537
01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:54,240
Speaker 1: he already broke out right like, so like this is

1538
01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:55,720
Speaker 1: I would say more of like a year or two

1539
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:57,519
Speaker 1: week he had like ten touchdowns.

1540
01:12:57,640 --> 01:13:00,120
Speaker 2: But see that's not fair. And as much as I

1541
01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:04,160
Speaker 2: love Trevion Henderson, by just going by the numbers doesn't

1542
01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:07,080
Speaker 2: give the context of his season and would know that

1543
01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:10,519
Speaker 2: he had a small part of the season where he

1544
01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:13,840
Speaker 2: really broke out. That was that and after that.

1545
01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:17,800
Speaker 1: So to me, and again this is semantics. But to me,

1546
01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:22,360
Speaker 1: he broke out in that October November period of time

1547
01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:25,000
Speaker 1: last year, this would be like a year two leap.

1548
01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:27,320
Speaker 1: Like if he went and then did it for a

1549
01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:32,559
Speaker 1: consistent seventeen game that that would be a year two leap. Yeah, because,

1550
01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:35,160
Speaker 1: like I think we already know Trevon Henderson's an NFL player,

1551
01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:37,559
Speaker 1: Like now it's just how good of the NFL players.

1552
01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:40,200
Speaker 2: But I think simply saying well, he had twelve hundred yards,

1553
01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:44,240
Speaker 2: which means now he's really really good, that's too simplicit.

1554
01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:45,960
Speaker 1: Well, I say it is really really good. But he

1555
01:13:46,040 --> 01:13:48,479
Speaker 1: led you know, we did our preview videos earlier today.

1556
01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:51,400
Speaker 1: He led the team in yards and total touchdowns last year.

1557
01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:53,200
Speaker 1: This like as a rookie.

1558
01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:53,559
Speaker 2: Yep.

1559
01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:56,160
Speaker 1: So I mean you can say that it all kind

1560
01:13:56,160 --> 01:13:59,559
Speaker 1: of happened, you know, in a confined time period. But

1561
01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:01,799
Speaker 1: the end of the day, he was the most productive

1562
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:03,320
Speaker 1: offensive player on the team.

1563
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:04,320
Speaker 2: By the numbers.

1564
01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:06,960
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean at the end of the day,

1565
01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:09,479
Speaker 1: trying to put points on the board, aren't we I.

1566
01:14:09,439 --> 01:14:15,599
Speaker 2: Understand, But you do you understand what I'm saying abuse Yeah, yeah,

1567
01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:19,640
Speaker 2: I'm just saying the whole season, right, not just no,

1568
01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:20,520
Speaker 2: I said.

1569
01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:23,320
Speaker 1: It was I said it was a semantics argument. Okay,

1570
01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:29,120
Speaker 1: but I taught you, well, just sit here and say

1571
01:14:29,240 --> 01:14:31,760
Speaker 1: that he needs like he needs to break out. It's

1572
01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:35,000
Speaker 1: like he already broke out, like he needs to stack it.

1573
01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:38,320
Speaker 2: He needs you're too, I think in most reasonable people's

1574
01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:42,360
Speaker 2: definition of breaking out, I don't think he's broken out yet.

1575
01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:47,280
Speaker 2: He's had some breakout perform some breakout. He's had some

1576
01:14:47,320 --> 01:14:52,040
Speaker 2: breakout performances and games, but not a season rookie, not

1577
01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:52,599
Speaker 2: a season.

1578
01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:53,040
Speaker 14: Ye.

1579
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:57,080
Speaker 1: So no, I mean, you know, it's different things that

1580
01:14:57,240 --> 01:14:58,280
Speaker 1: I thought that was implied.

1581
01:14:58,479 --> 01:14:59,519
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1582
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:03,760
Speaker 2: So, I mean, is Trevion Henderson considered one of the

1583
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:05,120
Speaker 2: top ten backs in the league.

1584
01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:08,920
Speaker 1: No, No, But if he becomes a top ten back

1585
01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:10,800
Speaker 1: in the league, then he made a year two leap.

1586
01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:12,840
Speaker 1: Of course he didn't break out.

1587
01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:15,320
Speaker 2: I would say he broke out if he becomes the

1588
01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:18,599
Speaker 2: top ten. I mean, that's a breakout, like he broke

1589
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:19,400
Speaker 2: out from the path.

1590
01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:22,840
Speaker 1: But you're like, so, Kyle Williams had ten catches last year.

1591
01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:25,519
Speaker 1: If all of a sudden, Kyle Williams goes and has

1592
01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:28,519
Speaker 1: like eight hundred yards and you know, sixty catches, he

1593
01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:30,840
Speaker 1: broke out, that was a break I agree with that

1594
01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:31,960
Speaker 1: be a year two leap.

1595
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:34,960
Speaker 5: I agree, sophomore slump.

1596
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:39,160
Speaker 9: It's a breakout season in the context of just our

1597
01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:42,439
Speaker 9: New England bubble, or do you consider a breakout season

1598
01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:47,680
Speaker 9: like you've arrived league wide, some cheap fan the last you.

1599
01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:52,200
Speaker 1: Are that that well, I think unfortunately, because of fantasy football,

1600
01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:55,800
Speaker 1: everybody knows who Travon Henderson is. Maybe even if he's

1601
01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:58,160
Speaker 1: not a top ten running back in the league, he's

1602
01:15:58,200 --> 01:16:00,320
Speaker 1: fantasy relevant, so people are going to know who he is.

1603
01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:03,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's funny we put we did our preview offense

1604
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:04,559
Speaker 8: and we talked about running backs, and I brought up

1605
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:06,000
Speaker 8: the stats, and this is kind of the conversation we

1606
01:16:06,040 --> 01:16:07,479
Speaker 8: had of like, geez, when you really just look at

1607
01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:09,439
Speaker 8: the stats, like you know, it's it's pretty impressive the

1608
01:16:09,439 --> 01:16:10,200
Speaker 8: season he put together.

1609
01:16:10,200 --> 01:16:11,840
Speaker 5: I understand what you're saying, Fred, I'm not trying to

1610
01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:12,400
Speaker 5: argue with.

1611
01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:14,200
Speaker 1: You, but but did he break argue?

1612
01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:17,960
Speaker 8: But looking at his playoff like I didn't, I don't

1613
01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:19,760
Speaker 8: really looked at his playoffs stats. How many how many

1614
01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:23,840
Speaker 8: snaps he played in the FC Championship four snaps?

1615
01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:24,599
Speaker 1: Four snaps?

1616
01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:28,640
Speaker 5: Evan's like, yeah, yeah, but I mean the production too,

1617
01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:29,080
Speaker 5: is I.

1618
01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:32,200
Speaker 1: Mean because the beginning in the end was bad. Yeah,

1619
01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:33,000
Speaker 1: I agree.

1620
01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:35,360
Speaker 7: That's why I sort of agree with both of you,

1621
01:16:35,640 --> 01:16:37,560
Speaker 7: which is why I didn't get involved in arguing.

1622
01:16:37,439 --> 01:16:41,839
Speaker 1: We are I would have jumped in. It just depends

1623
01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:43,639
Speaker 1: on which it right.

1624
01:16:44,720 --> 01:16:45,920
Speaker 5: Stats and I think.

1625
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:48,200
Speaker 2: Really good game.

1626
01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:49,920
Speaker 1: If the rookie showed.

1627
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:52,040
Speaker 8: Flashes of it, that's good enough for me. You know, like,

1628
01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 8: I don't know breaking up very promising he showed.

1629
01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:58,439
Speaker 1: But did he break out? Pick a side, dude on

1630
01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:03,240
Speaker 1: the not how he did it.

1631
01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:05,280
Speaker 5: It's gonna be funny to during like he's breaking out?

1632
01:17:05,720 --> 01:17:07,679
Speaker 5: Is he though he already broke out?

1633
01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:08,479
Speaker 1: And you know he's.

1634
01:17:08,360 --> 01:17:13,280
Speaker 7: Gonna that's gonna come down. That's gonna come down on

1635
01:17:13,320 --> 01:17:16,400
Speaker 7: a post game show. That's a breakout performance from Trevion

1636
01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:17,599
Speaker 7: Henderson today, the.

1637
01:17:17,560 --> 01:17:22,000
Speaker 1: Same one he had last year on the table had

1638
01:17:22,040 --> 01:17:24,720
Speaker 1: three times. The question is it puts the jelly donut down?

1639
01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:25,599
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1640
01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:28,240
Speaker 5: That was a breakout game.

1641
01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:33,480
Speaker 2: Can a breakout game? Can a breakout? Well? Breakout performances

1642
01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:35,160
Speaker 2: are what they are, and he had some of those.

1643
01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:38,400
Speaker 2: But can a play a breakout in three or four

1644
01:17:38,439 --> 01:17:40,360
Speaker 2: games or does he have to do it prove it

1645
01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:41,120
Speaker 2: over a season?

1646
01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:45,720
Speaker 1: That's that's the that's why Travon Henderson is such a

1647
01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:49,760
Speaker 1: good person to use this yet, because he broke out

1648
01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:52,599
Speaker 1: for like a month last year. He was a Rookie

1649
01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:54,599
Speaker 1: of the Month for the NFL, I think in November.

1650
01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:55,920
Speaker 1: I think it was last year.

1651
01:17:56,040 --> 01:17:58,759
Speaker 2: So did he have a breakout season? Right? Right?

1652
01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:02,400
Speaker 5: Did he break Did Jonas Gray break out against the

1653
01:18:02,439 --> 01:18:04,880
Speaker 5: Colts again?

1654
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:07,240
Speaker 2: Right? And he never played again?

1655
01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:10,120
Speaker 10: Still hanging around the community events though he is.

1656
01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:12,360
Speaker 1: He's the nicest guys.

1657
01:18:13,080 --> 01:18:14,760
Speaker 5: I had no idea what to expect my first time.

1658
01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:17,080
Speaker 8: I had to do like a oh man, we had

1659
01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:19,080
Speaker 8: to do a like a It was, I guess you

1660
01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:21,240
Speaker 8: could call it a rally. It was before the Buffalo

1661
01:18:21,240 --> 01:18:23,040
Speaker 8: playoff game in twenty one and like we're doing a

1662
01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:23,439
Speaker 8: little thing.

1663
01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:26,479
Speaker 5: It wasn't anything like as big as we usually do.

1664
01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:29,479
Speaker 8: And it was up in the up and Patriot Place

1665
01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:31,720
Speaker 8: and it had to be twenty below zero with like

1666
01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:32,439
Speaker 8: a wind chill.

1667
01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:35,920
Speaker 5: There's like eight people there, you know, it's the Friday night.

1668
01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:37,800
Speaker 8: And then Jonas Gray was there, but he was great,

1669
01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:40,200
Speaker 8: brought us ring and everything that awesome.

1670
01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:45,880
Speaker 2: Henry from Yorkshire, Henri right, Sin haven't had a chance

1671
01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:47,680
Speaker 2: to listen yesterday's show, but I want to know, if

1672
01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:51,519
Speaker 2: you guys saw the scut and fans at Fenway Soccer

1673
01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:53,639
Speaker 2: fans really know how to enjoy themselves. I did.

1674
01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:55,400
Speaker 1: I don't know how much.

1675
01:18:55,479 --> 01:18:58,240
Speaker 9: Fomo, how could you not about the Red Sox games

1676
01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:02,240
Speaker 9: this weekend? As someone testing Red Sox games until they're

1677
01:19:02,280 --> 01:19:05,639
Speaker 9: good again, I like, for the first time all season,

1678
01:19:05,680 --> 01:19:06,960
Speaker 9: I was like, that looks electric.

1679
01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:09,160
Speaker 10: That looks like just being in Boston in general looks

1680
01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:09,760
Speaker 10: like so much.

1681
01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:11,920
Speaker 2: I hear, it's a great atmosphere.

1682
01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:15,160
Speaker 9: I also saw a video of a New York news

1683
01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:18,880
Speaker 9: reporter interviewing Scottish people on the streets because they had

1684
01:19:18,920 --> 01:19:20,439
Speaker 9: to move now to New York City.

1685
01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:21,360
Speaker 10: And they're like, oh, what are you How are you

1686
01:19:21,400 --> 01:19:23,000
Speaker 10: liking New York And they're all like, it's not as

1687
01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:24,760
Speaker 10: good as Boston. We want to go back, and right.

1688
01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:26,280
Speaker 2: I love that, love it.

1689
01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:28,720
Speaker 1: It was last weekend. We were out a little bit

1690
01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:32,480
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of people. Now I've seen it

1691
01:19:32,680 --> 01:19:35,160
Speaker 1: way too many social media videos about it, but there's

1692
01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:37,519
Speaker 1: a lot of people and it was a lot of

1693
01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:39,720
Speaker 1: fun and they're all very very nice, and I try

1694
01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:42,320
Speaker 1: to give them some pointers about you know, Gillette in

1695
01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:44,439
Speaker 1: the area and you know, come into a game here

1696
01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:45,400
Speaker 1: and stuff like that.

1697
01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:47,840
Speaker 2: So that was cool to go to Jersey.

1698
01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:48,200
Speaker 1: Mikes.

1699
01:19:48,439 --> 01:19:48,519
Speaker 13: No.

1700
01:19:48,680 --> 01:19:51,240
Speaker 1: I told them that I worked at the stadium though,

1701
01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:52,840
Speaker 1: and I think they thought that I was like a

1702
01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:56,280
Speaker 1: stadium worker and not like you know, I didn't know

1703
01:19:56,479 --> 01:19:58,880
Speaker 1: that and then nothing. I just think that they got it.

1704
01:19:59,560 --> 01:19:59,720
Speaker 1: I do.

1705
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:03,120
Speaker 10: I just think talent.

1706
01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:06,440
Speaker 1: I just think that they were really.

1707
01:20:06,360 --> 01:20:07,400
Speaker 2: In front of the camera.

1708
01:20:08,840 --> 01:20:09,680
Speaker 5: I have a podcast.

1709
01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:14,880
Speaker 8: Actually I did like four hours straight on Wednesday.

1710
01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:16,120
Speaker 1: We're never gonna finish.

1711
01:20:18,560 --> 01:20:21,080
Speaker 17: It just was funny because they I think they're not

1712
01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:26,439
Speaker 17: we met this errand really arrogant blow. I think they

1713
01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:28,840
Speaker 17: just had got the wrong idea of the type of

1714
01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:29,479
Speaker 17: person they were.

1715
01:20:31,080 --> 01:20:33,600
Speaker 1: They thought that they were meeting somebody that you know,

1716
01:20:33,800 --> 01:20:39,719
Speaker 1: this man does not do physically, Yeah, is not direct people. Yeah, Yeah,

1717
01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:42,680
Speaker 1: they they were. They were very nice. It's a new

1718
01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:45,439
Speaker 1: version of the you know themselves.

1719
01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:49,800
Speaker 2: So also, Henry has a way too early over under

1720
01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:54,640
Speaker 2: for the season. Low MoU plays on offense. Uh, I

1721
01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:58,120
Speaker 2: don't know what to fifty point five? Oh plays, not

1722
01:20:58,240 --> 01:21:01,479
Speaker 2: plays but actual play. The number of plays he does

1723
01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:04,479
Speaker 2: on offense two hundred and fifty point five or what

1724
01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:06,320
Speaker 2: is the average for a tackle?

1725
01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:06,800
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1726
01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:11,479
Speaker 1: Well, starting one seven. Yeah, he plays every snap.

1727
01:21:12,120 --> 01:21:13,320
Speaker 2: Would oh low move.

1728
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:16,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm going to say under half. Okay, I'm on

1729
01:21:16,200 --> 01:21:19,280
Speaker 7: a bank on me on the side of health, good health.

1730
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:21,600
Speaker 1: Even if he's in the six a line package, that

1731
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:25,640
Speaker 1: they're only going to do that one hundred times. Yeah,

1732
01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:27,240
Speaker 1: So I would say I would say.

1733
01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:31,160
Speaker 2: Under raredan catches twenty five and a hay under take

1734
01:21:31,160 --> 01:21:34,719
Speaker 2: the under and that rookies that make the fifty three

1735
01:21:34,760 --> 01:21:36,559
Speaker 2: man roster six and a.

1736
01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:40,960
Speaker 1: Hope please, Well there's nine draft picks.

1737
01:21:42,040 --> 01:21:43,000
Speaker 5: Three of them are lost.

1738
01:21:43,120 --> 01:21:46,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm going to say under when I under six

1739
01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:48,840
Speaker 7: and a half six to say under, I don't think

1740
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:49,400
Speaker 7: there's that many.

1741
01:21:50,360 --> 01:21:51,559
Speaker 5: I think Prenty you make is it?

1742
01:21:51,720 --> 01:21:51,960
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1743
01:21:51,960 --> 01:21:52,960
Speaker 5: And after that, I don't know.

1744
01:21:53,280 --> 01:21:53,479
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1745
01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:57,679
Speaker 2: Uh gave gave Acus contracts signed a hey.

1746
01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:03,880
Speaker 1: Like will he signed over? Eventually he will sign I.

1747
01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:06,720
Speaker 8: Guess he was in the Blue Square Alliance video. Was

1748
01:22:06,760 --> 01:22:09,800
Speaker 8: that we posted yesterday? Was Akis in the building?

1749
01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:13,640
Speaker 1: I appreciate that so much about our fan base. We

1750
01:22:13,680 --> 01:22:17,040
Speaker 1: put out a video. Yeah, like it's the DiCaprio.

1751
01:22:17,200 --> 01:22:18,880
Speaker 10: It doesn't break down community film.

1752
01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:21,200
Speaker 1: I did break it down, but I thought that it

1753
01:22:21,200 --> 01:22:24,160
Speaker 1: would probably best to not, you know, tweet about him.

1754
01:22:24,200 --> 01:22:27,120
Speaker 1: Being in the video. So I let everybody.

1755
01:22:26,720 --> 01:22:29,640
Speaker 8: Seriously though, like we talked about contract and all that, like,

1756
01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:32,960
Speaker 8: is that off the field kind of stuff not part

1757
01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:34,519
Speaker 8: of that? Like, I mean, is this any kind of

1758
01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:39,840
Speaker 8: sign of contract?

1759
01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:41,080
Speaker 2: Didn't you be here?

1760
01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:43,200
Speaker 1: Couldn't be here during my point last.

1761
01:22:43,080 --> 01:22:46,000
Speaker 2: Week because there's something else going on and that we

1762
01:22:46,040 --> 01:22:46,880
Speaker 2: don't know what it is.

1763
01:22:47,040 --> 01:22:49,240
Speaker 1: But it is interesting that he was. Yeah, that could

1764
01:22:49,240 --> 01:22:50,320
Speaker 1: have been right after the draft.

1765
01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:52,880
Speaker 9: It could have been their first thing and reporting and

1766
01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:53,880
Speaker 9: we've been sitting on.

1767
01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:54,640
Speaker 5: It unless.

1768
01:22:58,560 --> 01:23:01,160
Speaker 1: Unless that was a turn and burnt I have a

1769
01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:01,879
Speaker 1: rookie event.

1770
01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:04,799
Speaker 7: Though that could have been absolutely could have been done

1771
01:23:05,200 --> 01:23:06,799
Speaker 7: right after they were drafted.

1772
01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:09,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, for all we know. Yeah.

1773
01:23:09,360 --> 01:23:14,200
Speaker 2: Uh. I originally wanted to ask about ocus sacks five

1774
01:23:14,360 --> 01:23:17,920
Speaker 2: point seven five, but I'm now starting to get worried.

1775
01:23:18,360 --> 01:23:21,559
Speaker 1: That's that's the use of the seven five five and

1776
01:23:21,560 --> 01:23:23,280
Speaker 1: a half. We don't want to push we can have

1777
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:26,360
Speaker 1: a half that's half sacks bug me. Yeah, I don't

1778
01:23:26,400 --> 01:23:29,040
Speaker 1: like it, especially when when three guys share a sax. Yeah,

1779
01:23:29,080 --> 01:23:31,360
Speaker 1: it's like, can we just so what do you somebody?

1780
01:23:31,479 --> 01:23:33,240
Speaker 1: Somebody hit the quarterback first.

1781
01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:37,920
Speaker 2: Over under sacks for Ocus five point seven five under.

1782
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:39,760
Speaker 1: I'm going to say he's gonna get like three or four. Yeah,

1783
01:23:40,120 --> 01:23:42,200
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't what did Ponder get last year?

1784
01:23:42,240 --> 01:23:42,400
Speaker 2: Four?

1785
01:23:42,840 --> 01:23:44,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to take the under. I feel like

1786
01:23:44,800 --> 01:23:48,200
Speaker 1: I'm being a gas lit a little bit about Achis

1787
01:23:48,200 --> 01:23:51,519
Speaker 1: and what his skill set is. And maybe it's just

1788
01:23:51,560 --> 01:23:55,640
Speaker 1: a me thing, but I I've heard some grousing some

1789
01:23:56,040 --> 01:23:58,559
Speaker 1: things from the scribes about how he's going to come

1790
01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:01,200
Speaker 1: in and be like Joshua and this like third down

1791
01:24:01,240 --> 01:24:03,760
Speaker 1: pass rush role and all that kind of stuff, and

1792
01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:06,240
Speaker 1: I just I don't see him as that kind of player.

1793
01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:10,680
Speaker 1: Like I see him as a rugged, power oriented edge setting,

1794
01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:14,200
Speaker 1: you know, like talking a lot about effort and finish

1795
01:24:14,360 --> 01:24:16,360
Speaker 1: and you know how he plays with a nasty and

1796
01:24:16,439 --> 01:24:18,880
Speaker 1: like stuff like that, Like that's not a two hundred

1797
01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:21,280
Speaker 1: and forty pound third down pass rusher.

1798
01:24:21,760 --> 01:24:23,920
Speaker 8: I wonder how much time he needs because I feel

1799
01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:25,280
Speaker 8: like a lot of what they do a lot.

1800
01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:27,640
Speaker 5: Of stunts, and you neque experience with that.

1801
01:24:27,720 --> 01:24:29,680
Speaker 8: You need practice with the timing of it, and you

1802
01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:31,799
Speaker 8: know how to come off of those kind.

1803
01:24:31,680 --> 01:24:33,600
Speaker 1: Of I agree with both of those absolutely.

1804
01:24:33,800 --> 01:24:36,040
Speaker 7: I think that And I think Christian might have asked, no,

1805
01:24:36,200 --> 01:24:39,960
Speaker 7: someone asked yesterday if that was a position that it

1806
01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:43,000
Speaker 7: wasn't as important that he was missing time because of that, Like, yeah,

1807
01:24:43,320 --> 01:24:46,160
Speaker 7: and I think the same person who's trying to gaslight

1808
01:24:46,200 --> 01:24:50,360
Speaker 7: Evan was suggesting that, like it's, you know, Seaball get ball,

1809
01:24:50,520 --> 01:24:52,679
Speaker 7: And I don't really think that's the kind of player

1810
01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:54,559
Speaker 7: he is. And I do think a lot of what

1811
01:24:54,600 --> 01:24:58,080
Speaker 7: the Patriots do up front is a little bit sophisticated.

1812
01:24:58,200 --> 01:25:00,720
Speaker 1: It's not just Seaball get ball. Yeah, I think there's

1813
01:25:00,720 --> 01:25:03,680
Speaker 1: definitely an element that that's probably most of it is

1814
01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:06,240
Speaker 1: Seaball get ball. For a player like that, I just

1815
01:25:06,280 --> 01:25:08,760
Speaker 1: think his role. I've always thought that he was going

1816
01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:10,880
Speaker 1: to be a better early down player than laid down

1817
01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:13,679
Speaker 1: player to start. The pass rush was the question mark

1818
01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:14,680
Speaker 1: with him is does he.

1819
01:25:14,680 --> 01:25:18,000
Speaker 7: Have So that's why speed I guess was under on

1820
01:25:18,080 --> 01:25:20,639
Speaker 7: that because that, you know, and Mike is the one

1821
01:25:20,680 --> 01:25:24,320
Speaker 7: that kind of got me on accus originally in I

1822
01:25:24,360 --> 01:25:25,960
Speaker 7: don't know March or I was like.

1823
01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:28,000
Speaker 5: Two years ago. I think I was already grinding.

1824
01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:32,000
Speaker 7: Mill I saw, you know, it's it's kind of I

1825
01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:35,840
Speaker 7: think he's I think he's I hope hopefully they can

1826
01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:39,720
Speaker 7: save the leg got enough. I think it's he's a

1827
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:43,719
Speaker 7: really good football player, but not not. I wouldn't I

1828
01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:46,160
Speaker 7: think what Evan said, he I wouldn't just consider him

1829
01:25:46,200 --> 01:25:50,120
Speaker 7: like this dynamic athlete coming off the edge. I think

1830
01:25:50,120 --> 01:25:53,200
Speaker 7: he wins with effort and finish and all that stuff.

1831
01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:56,000
Speaker 7: Which is why I lowered the number, because if that's

1832
01:25:56,120 --> 01:25:58,080
Speaker 7: how you're winning in college, it's going to be harder

1833
01:25:58,080 --> 01:25:59,760
Speaker 7: to win that way. Now, he could still be a

1834
01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:03,960
Speaker 7: really good player and not necessarily be twelve thirteen sac guy. Like,

1835
01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:07,320
Speaker 7: he could still be tough and have a high motor

1836
01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:10,800
Speaker 7: and all that stuff and beat blocks and collapse the

1837
01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:12,040
Speaker 7: pocket and like, you know.

1838
01:26:12,120 --> 01:26:14,160
Speaker 8: Like you know, not to like set a low ceiling

1839
01:26:14,240 --> 01:26:15,880
Speaker 8: on him, but you know, like Nikovitch didn't have a

1840
01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:17,439
Speaker 8: lot of juice, but but.

1841
01:26:17,360 --> 01:26:20,200
Speaker 1: He he came, he came up with his plays. Absolutely.

1842
01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:24,200
Speaker 2: I just have to mention this. We're watching World Cup

1843
01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:27,160
Speaker 2: and this guy's writhing on the ground and pain and

1844
01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:30,000
Speaker 2: while he's on the ground, his teammate just bounced the

1845
01:26:30,040 --> 01:26:32,120
Speaker 2: ball off his head. Did you catch that?

1846
01:26:32,479 --> 01:26:32,920
Speaker 1: I missed it?

1847
01:26:34,840 --> 01:26:34,960
Speaker 2: You know.

1848
01:26:35,600 --> 01:26:37,320
Speaker 8: I I really didn't want to do a thing about

1849
01:26:37,360 --> 01:26:39,879
Speaker 8: the injuries of soccer, but I like, we watched sports

1850
01:26:39,880 --> 01:26:42,880
Speaker 8: for a living, and you know, and I'm always so

1851
01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:45,240
Speaker 8: attuned to injuries and like when guys go down on

1852
01:26:45,240 --> 01:26:47,920
Speaker 8: the football field, I am like, oh no, like what

1853
01:26:48,080 --> 01:26:51,719
Speaker 8: is this and this soccer game, it's like every single

1854
01:26:51,760 --> 01:26:53,760
Speaker 8: one the guy's down like that's a broken leg, Like

1855
01:26:53,800 --> 01:26:56,519
Speaker 8: he is writhing on the field. I've seen guys break

1856
01:26:56,520 --> 01:26:58,760
Speaker 8: their leg in football and not react the way that.

1857
01:26:59,040 --> 01:27:00,360
Speaker 5: And then they cut away in the can and then

1858
01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:00,800
Speaker 5: it comes back.

1859
01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:06,280
Speaker 18: I thought you were a thing, and I thought, but

1860
01:27:06,720 --> 01:27:10,840
Speaker 18: one thing about soccer that I don't think we understand

1861
01:27:11,880 --> 01:27:14,840
Speaker 18: is that you can get kicked in the shin or

1862
01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:18,400
Speaker 18: your footsteps on and it happens so fast because these

1863
01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:21,080
Speaker 18: guys feed are so quick that the only way they

1864
01:27:21,080 --> 01:27:23,960
Speaker 18: feel they can get the ref's attention is to do that.

1865
01:27:24,320 --> 01:27:27,720
Speaker 2: Because sometimes like and you think it's just attack this

1866
01:27:27,800 --> 01:27:32,080
Speaker 2: guy so strong, it actually does hurt more than you think.

1867
01:27:33,520 --> 01:27:34,840
Speaker 1: Where there's no contact.

1868
01:27:34,520 --> 01:27:37,240
Speaker 19: At all, Like I said, it is out of control,

1869
01:27:37,640 --> 01:27:40,280
Speaker 19: which is the majority of a lot of times, like

1870
01:27:40,400 --> 01:27:42,639
Speaker 19: you have to like slow it down frame by frame

1871
01:27:42,720 --> 01:27:45,280
Speaker 19: to actually see the contact because these guys are so

1872
01:27:45,479 --> 01:27:45,920
Speaker 19: their feeder.

1873
01:27:46,080 --> 01:27:49,120
Speaker 8: I wish against the Ravens like three times a game,

1874
01:27:49,360 --> 01:27:51,120
Speaker 8: so like I wish, I wish I.

1875
01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:53,280
Speaker 1: Could like make fun of it more. But like the

1876
01:27:53,360 --> 01:27:56,320
Speaker 1: NBA has gotten really bad. With the NBA is absolutely

1877
01:27:56,360 --> 01:28:01,800
Speaker 1: every bit we're getting close to that being you know,

1878
01:28:01,840 --> 01:28:04,640
Speaker 1: almost as bad as European soccer. So like you know,

1879
01:28:04,840 --> 01:28:06,400
Speaker 1: if one of our sports is doing it.

1880
01:28:06,360 --> 01:28:08,680
Speaker 2: Then even the NBA again, you know.

1881
01:28:08,720 --> 01:28:11,960
Speaker 1: The head heads and the landing space foul.

1882
01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:14,240
Speaker 7: I always say that the new logoh, they should replace

1883
01:28:14,280 --> 01:28:16,479
Speaker 7: Jerry West with Lebron checking.

1884
01:28:16,880 --> 01:28:18,600
Speaker 1: Like every time you drive to the hoop, if a

1885
01:28:18,640 --> 01:28:21,439
Speaker 1: guy you know, goes to finish at the rim, he

1886
01:28:21,640 --> 01:28:23,760
Speaker 1: ends up on the ground and you're just like you

1887
01:28:23,800 --> 01:28:25,760
Speaker 1: get his land on your two feet, like you don't

1888
01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:26,439
Speaker 1: have to fall.

1889
01:28:26,560 --> 01:28:29,240
Speaker 2: Even the NBA, like these guys are so fast that

1890
01:28:29,320 --> 01:28:32,200
Speaker 2: like a lot of times, like you'll see something and

1891
01:28:32,240 --> 01:28:34,479
Speaker 2: the guy will like, oh, you're like, nothing happened, and

1892
01:28:34,479 --> 01:28:36,640
Speaker 2: then they really slow it down and sure enough he

1893
01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:39,439
Speaker 2: got an elbow to the to the cheek or you know.

1894
01:28:39,400 --> 01:28:41,320
Speaker 7: So I see more often than not there was no

1895
01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:44,120
Speaker 7: contact at all. And I and in Fred's point about

1896
01:28:44,120 --> 01:28:45,960
Speaker 7: it being hard to see, like I don't blame the

1897
01:28:45,960 --> 01:28:48,519
Speaker 7: refs because it is hard to see in real time

1898
01:28:48,600 --> 01:28:50,920
Speaker 7: how fast these guys are going, how gifted they are.

1899
01:28:51,520 --> 01:28:54,160
Speaker 7: But the reactions to me a comical and it's every

1900
01:28:54,200 --> 01:28:56,639
Speaker 7: bit before I get the soccer hate, it's not socked.

1901
01:28:57,160 --> 01:28:59,639
Speaker 7: Every bit is bad in the NBA. Every bit is the.

1902
01:28:59,640 --> 01:29:02,400
Speaker 1: Thing that epidemic in the NBA is falling down after

1903
01:29:02,439 --> 01:29:06,280
Speaker 1: you shoot that. That has become every single guy. And

1904
01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:11,600
Speaker 1: it's not so much like my landing area, but that

1905
01:29:12,240 --> 01:29:14,639
Speaker 1: I think the landing area thing has gotten worse than

1906
01:29:14,720 --> 01:29:18,640
Speaker 1: the the oh he hit my arm flop like that.

1907
01:29:18,640 --> 01:29:21,080
Speaker 1: That now the landing area thing, you know, s g

1908
01:29:21,160 --> 01:29:23,800
Speaker 1: A is probably the worst. Like every time SGA takes

1909
01:29:23,800 --> 01:29:27,080
Speaker 1: a jump shot, he's on the ground and you're just like.

1910
01:29:27,520 --> 01:29:30,280
Speaker 8: Single get up like It's just it's kind of be

1911
01:29:30,320 --> 01:29:31,760
Speaker 8: hard as a player to be like, I gotta make

1912
01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:33,160
Speaker 8: this one look good, like and you mean, you got

1913
01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:34,960
Speaker 8: to act like it's there, like just the line.

1914
01:29:35,680 --> 01:29:37,960
Speaker 9: Then like they look around, they see no one cares,

1915
01:29:37,960 --> 01:29:39,840
Speaker 9: and they get back up and they call. He's like,

1916
01:29:39,880 --> 01:29:41,760
Speaker 9: if you did that five seconds ago, maybe you could

1917
01:29:41,800 --> 01:29:43,480
Speaker 9: have followed up the play gotten.

1918
01:29:45,560 --> 01:29:49,240
Speaker 1: Lay in the finals doing this to pick on the Knicks.

1919
01:29:49,280 --> 01:29:51,759
Speaker 1: But like Jalen brunts and flopped so bad he almost

1920
01:29:51,840 --> 01:29:55,679
Speaker 1: hurt himself. He landed on his tailbone because he flew

1921
01:29:55,720 --> 01:29:58,240
Speaker 1: back to try to sell the call and he landed

1922
01:29:58,240 --> 01:30:01,479
Speaker 1: on his tailbone and he like like ding himself up,

1923
01:30:01,640 --> 01:30:02,240
Speaker 1: like trying to.

1924
01:30:02,400 --> 01:30:06,879
Speaker 2: I did that. I took charge and as a defender,

1925
01:30:06,920 --> 01:30:09,439
Speaker 2: I you know, sold it, kind of sold it and

1926
01:30:09,479 --> 01:30:12,240
Speaker 2: I landed flat on my back and everyone's like, good play,

1927
01:30:12,280 --> 01:30:16,360
Speaker 2: good play, And I'm like, you know, for a week, yeah,

1928
01:30:16,400 --> 01:30:18,960
Speaker 2: your tailbone is I sold that one a little bit.

1929
01:30:18,840 --> 01:30:21,360
Speaker 7: Too real, I will say, you know, with all my

1930
01:30:21,760 --> 01:30:25,599
Speaker 7: soccer snark, I've been watching this Czech South Africa game.

1931
01:30:25,640 --> 01:30:26,599
Speaker 1: It's been a pretty good game.

1932
01:30:26,600 --> 01:30:29,439
Speaker 7: There's been good scoring chances up and down the field,

1933
01:30:30,160 --> 01:30:31,400
Speaker 7: even though it's only one nothing.

1934
01:30:31,520 --> 01:30:33,479
Speaker 1: I would say this has been an entertaining some of

1935
01:30:33,520 --> 01:30:33,800
Speaker 1: the games.

1936
01:30:33,800 --> 01:30:34,960
Speaker 8: I don't know if this is a trend in soccer,

1937
01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:37,479
Speaker 8: but like an early goal and then not like it's strange,

1938
01:30:37,479 --> 01:30:39,080
Speaker 8: like I've seen a lot of goals quick off.

1939
01:30:39,080 --> 01:30:41,960
Speaker 7: But the teams have had the chances. Both teams have

1940
01:30:42,000 --> 01:30:43,840
Speaker 7: had a lot of chances since that early goal.

1941
01:30:44,080 --> 01:30:46,959
Speaker 1: There's was a lot of concern about it from myself,

1942
01:30:46,960 --> 01:30:50,280
Speaker 1: included about them expanding to forty eight teams and watering

1943
01:30:50,360 --> 01:30:52,400
Speaker 1: it down the tournament. But I think a lot of

1944
01:30:52,439 --> 01:30:56,360
Speaker 1: these smaller countries have actually held their own a lot

1945
01:30:56,400 --> 01:30:59,759
Speaker 1: of these games now like Cape Verds that's the pinnacle,

1946
01:30:59,800 --> 01:31:03,320
Speaker 1: but a lot of these teams have have been competitive,

1947
01:31:03,360 --> 01:31:04,360
Speaker 1: like more competitive than what.

1948
01:31:04,760 --> 01:31:10,519
Speaker 9: Drew Portugal yesterday after an early Portuguese beronal though oh yeah.

1949
01:31:10,640 --> 01:31:15,080
Speaker 2: Wow aj in Providence. To have a breakout season means

1950
01:31:15,120 --> 01:31:17,840
Speaker 2: to develop in a particular area of your game and

1951
01:31:18,080 --> 01:31:21,479
Speaker 2: or demonstrate better consistency at the things you do well.

1952
01:31:22,040 --> 01:31:26,040
Speaker 2: Henderson made tremendous plays, but lack consistency. He needs avoiding

1953
01:31:26,320 --> 01:31:28,880
Speaker 2: getting stopped for no gain so often. He needs to

1954
01:31:28,920 --> 01:31:31,639
Speaker 2: improve in this aspect of the game so that when

1955
01:31:31,720 --> 01:31:34,280
Speaker 2: he doesn't break a big run, he can at least

1956
01:31:34,280 --> 01:31:37,519
Speaker 2: pick up a few yards most of the time. Yeah,

1957
01:31:37,720 --> 01:31:39,920
Speaker 2: I mean, that's my biggest question with him is just

1958
01:31:40,320 --> 01:31:41,360
Speaker 2: you know, Kenny see it a little.

1959
01:31:41,360 --> 01:31:42,840
Speaker 5: I mean, have you laid it out pretty well?

1960
01:31:42,880 --> 01:31:44,680
Speaker 8: Like, you know, we know he's explosive when he can

1961
01:31:44,680 --> 01:31:48,040
Speaker 8: find that space. It's just does he have trouble finding it?

1962
01:31:48,120 --> 01:31:50,880
Speaker 8: And you know, just again looking at the stats, it's

1963
01:31:50,920 --> 01:31:52,880
Speaker 8: there were plenty of examples in the Super Bowl or

1964
01:31:53,040 --> 01:31:55,400
Speaker 8: even in the playoffs where it's just like there's.

1965
01:31:55,160 --> 01:31:57,719
Speaker 5: Nothing there and he just running right in the offensive

1966
01:31:57,720 --> 01:31:59,639
Speaker 5: line right.

1967
01:31:59,560 --> 01:32:02,240
Speaker 1: Now he's got I think pacing out runs is my

1968
01:32:02,320 --> 01:32:05,000
Speaker 1: biggest thing with him this year is like you gotta

1969
01:32:05,040 --> 01:32:07,280
Speaker 1: do that Le'Veon bell every once in a while where

1970
01:32:07,560 --> 01:32:10,040
Speaker 1: you gotta let it develop and you gotta sometimes you

1971
01:32:10,080 --> 01:32:12,920
Speaker 1: don't need to be zero to sixty in a blank

1972
01:32:13,000 --> 01:32:15,639
Speaker 1: like you want to run, you know always, I want

1973
01:32:15,640 --> 01:32:18,080
Speaker 1: to run at full speed. A lot of guys would say,

1974
01:32:18,200 --> 01:32:21,000
Speaker 1: you know, receivers and running backs they hardly ever run

1975
01:32:21,040 --> 01:32:24,000
Speaker 1: at full speed because they're trying to set things up

1976
01:32:24,040 --> 01:32:26,840
Speaker 1: and they're trying to, you know, create those creases and

1977
01:32:26,880 --> 01:32:29,639
Speaker 1: stuff like that before they hit the gas. So him,

1978
01:32:29,680 --> 01:32:31,960
Speaker 1: you know, you gotta have gears like you're in a

1979
01:32:32,000 --> 01:32:34,400
Speaker 1: five speed. Don't always be in the fifth gear. You know,

1980
01:32:34,439 --> 01:32:36,120
Speaker 1: you gotta start in one and build your way up.

1981
01:32:36,160 --> 01:32:38,160
Speaker 5: Just be interesting to watch how that develops.

1982
01:32:38,160 --> 01:32:40,519
Speaker 8: I'm just I'm very curious as a skill set if

1983
01:32:40,520 --> 01:32:43,519
Speaker 8: that is something you can develop or is it you.

1984
01:32:43,439 --> 01:32:44,640
Speaker 5: Can see it or you can't see it.

1985
01:32:44,720 --> 01:32:48,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, Sully the die hot Patriots fan. So for those

1986
01:32:48,280 --> 01:32:52,040
Speaker 2: cluded to football as a whole former universities. Since a

1987
01:32:52,160 --> 01:32:55,760
Speaker 2: QB Brendan Soresby is potentially going to go in the

1988
01:32:55,880 --> 01:32:59,519
Speaker 2: NFL Supplemental Draft in July two questions, what do you

1989
01:32:59,560 --> 01:33:02,840
Speaker 2: think line is on Sworsby going for a second round

1990
01:33:02,960 --> 01:33:05,679
Speaker 2: or above? And what is the line on Sworsby placing

1991
01:33:05,720 --> 01:33:08,839
Speaker 2: a bet on that line? We got in troubles.

1992
01:33:09,400 --> 01:33:11,479
Speaker 1: I think that this is one of the more interesting

1993
01:33:11,520 --> 01:33:17,000
Speaker 1: offseason stories that we've had because he admits that he

1994
01:33:17,080 --> 01:33:21,160
Speaker 1: gambled on his own team. Yeah, and then he's going

1995
01:33:21,200 --> 01:33:24,160
Speaker 1: to Texas Tech and an il deal. He played at

1996
01:33:24,200 --> 01:33:26,639
Speaker 1: Cincinnati last year and now he's playing at Texas Tech.

1997
01:33:26,880 --> 01:33:30,759
Speaker 1: He Texas Tech kind of went down with the ship

1998
01:33:30,760 --> 01:33:33,879
Speaker 1: with him at first, and all these teams around Texas

1999
01:33:33,880 --> 01:33:37,960
Speaker 1: Tech are opting out of playing games against Texas Tech

2000
01:33:38,240 --> 01:33:42,960
Speaker 1: because they have originally backed Sorsby. Now Sorsby, who a

2001
01:33:43,080 --> 01:33:46,800
Speaker 1: judge approved him playing in the NCAA. Now he's saying,

2002
01:33:46,840 --> 01:33:49,280
Speaker 1: even though he still has eligibility, he wants to go

2003
01:33:49,320 --> 01:33:52,599
Speaker 1: to the supplemental draft. Technically, the supplemental draft is only

2004
01:33:52,600 --> 01:33:55,240
Speaker 1: if you're out of eligibility for some reason. So that's

2005
01:33:55,280 --> 01:33:58,000
Speaker 1: a whole like loophole that he now has to work around.

2006
01:33:58,280 --> 01:33:59,960
Speaker 1: You know, there's some people that are trying to make

2007
01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:01,880
Speaker 1: this is he any good?

2008
01:34:02,160 --> 01:34:02,360
Speaker 2: Well?

2009
01:34:02,680 --> 01:34:04,280
Speaker 1: I was gutting to that there are some people that

2010
01:34:04,320 --> 01:34:05,760
Speaker 1: are trying to make this out to be a little

2011
01:34:05,760 --> 01:34:07,320
Speaker 1: bit more than I think it is. You know, there

2012
01:34:07,320 --> 01:34:08,720
Speaker 1: are a lot of people that are saying he has

2013
01:34:08,800 --> 01:34:11,400
Speaker 1: first round caliber tape, and he's a first round talent.

2014
01:34:11,800 --> 01:34:14,720
Speaker 1: And you know, if he was drafted normally, if you

2015
01:34:14,760 --> 01:34:17,120
Speaker 1: went to Texas deck had a good year drafted normally,

2016
01:34:17,320 --> 01:34:19,519
Speaker 1: he was gonna have a chance to be a pretty

2017
01:34:19,560 --> 01:34:22,240
Speaker 1: high pick in the upcoming draft. I didn't really see

2018
01:34:22,280 --> 01:34:25,160
Speaker 1: that when I watched Cincinnati's offense last year. I wasn't

2019
01:34:25,200 --> 01:34:28,960
Speaker 1: watching him specifically, but I didn't really like think, oh, wow,

2020
01:34:29,160 --> 01:34:31,840
Speaker 1: this is some future NFL star at quarterback that they have.

2021
01:34:32,000 --> 01:34:34,640
Speaker 1: But he's definitely somebody that I think is worth a

2022
01:34:34,720 --> 01:34:36,880
Speaker 1: Day two pick in the supplemental draft from a team.

2023
01:34:36,920 --> 01:34:40,240
Speaker 1: And you're gonna have teams like the Jets, the Dolphins,

2024
01:34:40,280 --> 01:34:43,519
Speaker 1: the Cardinals, the Browns potentially, you know, these quarterback needy

2025
01:34:43,560 --> 01:34:46,720
Speaker 1: teams that might be in line to take him. So

2026
01:34:46,800 --> 01:34:49,280
Speaker 1: to the Emailers question, I think you might have to

2027
01:34:49,479 --> 01:34:52,360
Speaker 1: put in for a second round pick to win the bid.

2028
01:34:52,520 --> 01:34:54,960
Speaker 1: You know, you might win it at the third round,

2029
01:34:55,000 --> 01:34:56,559
Speaker 1: but I think the second round, if you really want

2030
01:34:56,560 --> 01:34:58,320
Speaker 1: to win it and you really want the kid I

2031
01:34:58,400 --> 01:35:00,000
Speaker 1: think you have to put in a second round pick.

2032
01:35:00,080 --> 01:35:03,120
Speaker 7: I've seen a lot of people throw second round out there.

2033
01:35:04,080 --> 01:35:05,960
Speaker 7: Seems a little rich. And just to let people know

2034
01:35:06,000 --> 01:35:11,800
Speaker 7: how that process works is if you it's the same

2035
01:35:11,960 --> 01:35:15,200
Speaker 7: order as the draft order, and you submit a round

2036
01:35:15,360 --> 01:35:18,519
Speaker 7: that you are interested in, and basically if you say

2037
01:35:18,600 --> 01:35:22,519
Speaker 7: second round pick and someone else's second round pick, but

2038
01:35:22,560 --> 01:35:23,320
Speaker 7: you pick first.

2039
01:35:23,439 --> 01:35:25,760
Speaker 1: Like you know, in Evans case, Cleveland.

2040
01:35:25,320 --> 01:35:28,160
Speaker 7: Would have priority over the Patriots if they both put

2041
01:35:28,160 --> 01:35:31,040
Speaker 7: a second round pick in, so it's whoever submitted the

2042
01:35:31,160 --> 01:35:35,040
Speaker 7: highest pick would get the rights. The Patriots did a

2043
01:35:35,080 --> 01:35:37,880
Speaker 7: supplemental draft. I think my first year that I was

2044
01:35:37,920 --> 01:35:40,559
Speaker 7: here Fred with Gerrod Cherry doing him.

2045
01:35:40,600 --> 01:35:42,120
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, it used to be more popular.

2046
01:35:42,280 --> 01:35:44,519
Speaker 7: It was a fourth rounder I think at the time.

2047
01:35:44,560 --> 01:35:47,280
Speaker 7: But Bobby Greer I remember we were at a preseason

2048
01:35:47,360 --> 01:35:50,320
Speaker 7: game and Bobby Greer told us that whole process of

2049
01:35:50,479 --> 01:35:51,200
Speaker 7: how it went down.

2050
01:35:51,320 --> 01:35:54,720
Speaker 1: I think there hasn't been one in the while, but

2051
01:35:54,920 --> 01:35:56,559
Speaker 1: there's been some success stories.

2052
01:35:56,640 --> 01:35:58,800
Speaker 7: I think the last one they had was twenty three

2053
01:35:58,880 --> 01:36:01,120
Speaker 7: and no one was taken. Yeah, almost no one submitted

2054
01:36:01,120 --> 01:36:01,400
Speaker 7: a bit.

2055
01:36:01,520 --> 01:36:03,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I think the best player was probably

2056
01:36:03,960 --> 01:36:08,120
Speaker 1: Josh Gordon. Recently, Torrell Pryor was a supplemental draft pick

2057
01:36:08,160 --> 01:36:12,960
Speaker 1: as well. But you know, there's it's not It's not

2058
01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:15,639
Speaker 1: like it never produces a player. You know, Josh Gordon

2059
01:36:15,760 --> 01:36:17,639
Speaker 1: was until he went off the rails as a good player.

2060
01:36:17,720 --> 01:36:20,639
Speaker 7: So now there's a handful of guys that have been okay.

2061
01:36:21,240 --> 01:36:27,160
Speaker 7: But it's an interesting point you bring up about the eligibility. Yeah,

2062
01:36:27,200 --> 01:36:30,639
Speaker 7: the draft eligibility, because technically he is kind of eligible

2063
01:36:30,720 --> 01:36:33,400
Speaker 7: right now, even though I don't think that's going to

2064
01:36:33,520 --> 01:36:36,920
Speaker 7: end up being the case. I think eventually, you know,

2065
01:36:37,400 --> 01:36:39,720
Speaker 7: all right, they could come to their senses and maybe

2066
01:36:39,720 --> 01:36:43,240
Speaker 7: you have someone not from Lubbock, Texas make the ruling right.

2067
01:36:43,400 --> 01:36:45,799
Speaker 2: On flag football, Ben in the Truck says, it seems

2068
01:36:45,800 --> 01:36:48,520
Speaker 2: to me that every commercial I see for flag football

2069
01:36:49,000 --> 01:36:52,439
Speaker 2: is for NFL branded leagues. Is it possible the league's

2070
01:36:52,439 --> 01:36:56,480
Speaker 2: promotion of flag football over tackle is also financially motivated.

2071
01:36:56,760 --> 01:37:00,240
Speaker 2: I'm look, money is always part of everything, but right now,

2072
01:37:00,280 --> 01:37:04,439
Speaker 2: I don't think the league. They give them those brands,

2073
01:37:04,439 --> 01:37:06,320
Speaker 2: they don't make them license that are paid for it,

2074
01:37:06,360 --> 01:37:08,880
Speaker 2: so they're not making money off of that. They just

2075
01:37:08,960 --> 01:37:12,679
Speaker 2: hope that having those brands out there will get people

2076
01:37:12,960 --> 01:37:15,439
Speaker 2: aware and more interested in the NFL at a young age.

2077
01:37:15,439 --> 01:37:17,760
Speaker 2: But I'm not sure that's how it's gonna work.

2078
01:37:18,560 --> 01:37:21,000
Speaker 8: I mean, they're still supporting the pro the like the

2079
01:37:21,000 --> 01:37:22,960
Speaker 8: Pop Warner leagues and things like that.

2080
01:37:23,080 --> 01:37:26,360
Speaker 2: I'm sure they're I'm sure they do support it, but

2081
01:37:26,800 --> 01:37:28,720
Speaker 2: they don't make a big thing about it. No, I

2082
01:37:28,760 --> 01:37:30,920
Speaker 2: can tell you that much because we're asking the question.

2083
01:37:31,560 --> 01:37:33,559
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know how they support it. Yeah,

2084
01:37:33,960 --> 01:37:35,400
Speaker 2: I mean that's honestly, I don't know.

2085
01:37:35,520 --> 01:37:37,519
Speaker 8: It's just what makes it hard because it seems like

2086
01:37:37,560 --> 01:37:39,640
Speaker 8: you're kind of hiding from the problem. Whereas if you

2087
01:37:39,640 --> 01:37:43,880
Speaker 8: were educating people and educating coaches, and you know that

2088
01:37:43,960 --> 01:37:46,840
Speaker 8: are certainly risks with every sport, and the best way

2089
01:37:46,840 --> 01:37:50,240
Speaker 8: to offset those risk is education and practice and understanding,

2090
01:37:50,400 --> 01:37:52,200
Speaker 8: you know, from a young age how to take a hit.

2091
01:37:52,520 --> 01:37:53,920
Speaker 5: I mean, I think that's the you know, big thing

2092
01:37:54,120 --> 01:37:54,640
Speaker 5: I heard one of.

2093
01:37:54,600 --> 01:37:56,360
Speaker 8: The high school football coaches talk about, is you know,

2094
01:37:56,439 --> 01:37:58,280
Speaker 8: kids get in like they gonna learn how to take

2095
01:37:58,280 --> 01:37:59,960
Speaker 8: a hit. I mean, you know these kids have now

2096
01:38:00,000 --> 01:38:01,400
Speaker 8: a lot of these kids had never been hit before.

2097
01:38:01,439 --> 01:38:03,760
Speaker 8: And then you know, you're fourteen, fifteen years old, you

2098
01:38:03,800 --> 01:38:04,320
Speaker 8: get to high.

2099
01:38:04,160 --> 01:38:05,599
Speaker 5: School and all of a sudden, you getting plowed.

2100
01:38:05,640 --> 01:38:08,160
Speaker 8: It's it's a big adjustment sometimes that scares people right

2101
01:38:08,200 --> 01:38:08,720
Speaker 8: out of the game.

2102
01:38:08,840 --> 01:38:13,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think the there's been some stuff out there

2103
01:38:13,240 --> 01:38:15,960
Speaker 1: about how to hit, but I feel like we don't

2104
01:38:16,040 --> 01:38:17,479
Speaker 1: talk enough about how to be hit.

2105
01:38:17,560 --> 01:38:17,640
Speaker 2: Ye.

2106
01:38:17,720 --> 01:38:18,519
Speaker 5: It's like the jiu jitsu.

2107
01:38:18,640 --> 01:38:21,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, like and there is a science their weight against

2108
01:38:21,560 --> 01:38:24,559
Speaker 1: them yeah man. Yeah, and like you know, making sure

2109
01:38:24,600 --> 01:38:26,920
Speaker 1: your head doesn't snap back and all that good stuff.

2110
01:38:27,120 --> 01:38:30,000
Speaker 1: That's Fred's but they have the head, you know, head

2111
01:38:30,120 --> 01:38:32,200
Speaker 1: up football and you know, keeping your head out of

2112
01:38:32,280 --> 01:38:34,479
Speaker 1: tackles and stuff like that, and more tackling like a

2113
01:38:34,560 --> 01:38:37,800
Speaker 1: rugby player would, where you're wrapping with your shoulder and

2114
01:38:37,840 --> 01:38:40,840
Speaker 1: your arms. I think is something that they're that USA

2115
01:38:40,920 --> 01:38:44,680
Speaker 1: Football is trying to promote more of instead of like

2116
01:38:44,720 --> 01:38:47,000
Speaker 1: in the NFL now calls a fifteen yard penalty. Yeah,

2117
01:38:47,080 --> 01:38:50,480
Speaker 1: like torpedoing. You're like, you know, like Sean Taylor.

2118
01:38:50,479 --> 01:38:53,559
Speaker 2: I always said that, like, you know, if your arms

2119
01:38:53,560 --> 01:38:57,160
Speaker 2: are at your side when you're trying to make a tackle,

2120
01:38:57,200 --> 01:38:58,800
Speaker 2: you're not trying to make a tackle. You're trying to

2121
01:38:58,800 --> 01:39:03,120
Speaker 2: make a hit. You know, Like the idea would be

2122
01:39:03,160 --> 01:39:05,240
Speaker 2: to wrap up and bring him down, you know.

2123
01:39:05,479 --> 01:39:07,439
Speaker 1: So Jalen Hawkins.

2124
01:39:09,720 --> 01:39:14,040
Speaker 2: Christian from Austria writes in a few points about soccer.

2125
01:39:14,080 --> 01:39:18,320
Speaker 2: First of all, you massively overestimate the importance of athleticism.

2126
01:39:18,840 --> 01:39:21,960
Speaker 2: Soccer is more of an endurance sport, and every professional

2127
01:39:21,960 --> 01:39:25,760
Speaker 2: player has a certain level of athleticism. Far more important

2128
01:39:25,840 --> 01:39:28,960
Speaker 2: is skill with the ball in understanding the flow of

2129
01:39:29,000 --> 01:39:31,920
Speaker 2: the game, just like a linebacker that is a step

2130
01:39:31,960 --> 01:39:35,439
Speaker 2: early because he knows what's coming. The point about coaching

2131
01:39:35,520 --> 01:39:38,760
Speaker 2: not being there is true, but it's far earlier than

2132
01:39:38,800 --> 01:39:41,960
Speaker 2: when kids start playing in a club. Every toddler in

2133
01:39:42,080 --> 01:39:45,360
Speaker 2: soccer crazy nations get put a ball put in front

2134
01:39:45,360 --> 01:39:47,679
Speaker 2: of them as soon as they start walking, and gets

2135
01:39:47,680 --> 01:39:50,000
Speaker 2: taught by their parents how to kick a ball correctly.

2136
01:39:50,439 --> 01:39:53,519
Speaker 2: The youth soccer coaches in the village clubs are also

2137
01:39:53,640 --> 01:39:57,240
Speaker 2: parents and volunteers here, but unlike most Americans, they all

2138
01:39:57,280 --> 01:40:00,839
Speaker 2: played the game themselves. And lastly, and like the American

2139
01:40:00,880 --> 01:40:04,000
Speaker 2: sports that you play with your hands, in soccer, you

2140
01:40:04,040 --> 01:40:07,160
Speaker 2: need to develop skills with your feet. Running fast is

2141
01:40:07,200 --> 01:40:11,440
Speaker 2: only as useful as you can run fast while controlling

2142
01:40:11,479 --> 01:40:16,200
Speaker 2: the ball. To Fred's point about America having the population numbers,

2143
01:40:16,439 --> 01:40:20,040
Speaker 2: Russia and China already tried that and failed miserably. I

2144
01:40:20,080 --> 01:40:22,920
Speaker 2: look forward to you continuing the discussion while the World

2145
01:40:22,960 --> 01:40:23,400
Speaker 2: Cup is on.

2146
01:40:23,640 --> 01:40:24,000
Speaker 1: I like that.

2147
01:40:24,040 --> 01:40:25,759
Speaker 8: I mean that speaks to you know when I said yesterday,

2148
01:40:25,760 --> 01:40:27,960
Speaker 8: but the fabric of the society. I mean, these are

2149
01:40:28,040 --> 01:40:30,040
Speaker 8: kids that grow up and they are handed a soccer

2150
01:40:30,080 --> 01:40:32,559
Speaker 8: ball and that's you know, what they're doing from minute one.

2151
01:40:32,680 --> 01:40:34,960
Speaker 8: They're the people they're looking up to. They're gathering around

2152
01:40:34,960 --> 01:40:38,120
Speaker 8: and watching games together. It's you know, that's all part

2153
01:40:38,120 --> 01:40:38,360
Speaker 8: of it.

2154
01:40:38,479 --> 01:40:41,479
Speaker 9: So I said at the beginning, the difference isn't with

2155
01:40:41,560 --> 01:40:45,679
Speaker 9: American soccer, isn't athletes or numbers. It's it's the skill.

2156
01:40:45,800 --> 01:40:48,200
Speaker 9: It's the way they're playing the game, which is.

2157
01:40:48,120 --> 01:40:51,439
Speaker 7: What I mean by athleticism. And I unfortunately use that

2158
01:40:51,479 --> 01:40:54,439
Speaker 7: word and everybody's fixated on it. Well, so I can't run,

2159
01:40:54,479 --> 01:40:56,719
Speaker 7: I can't put the toothpaste back again.

2160
01:40:57,680 --> 01:41:02,080
Speaker 2: Is there a difference between skill and athletics. Yes, And

2161
01:41:02,120 --> 01:41:04,880
Speaker 2: so he's saying it's more about skill than it being

2162
01:41:04,880 --> 01:41:06,160
Speaker 2: an athlete.

2163
01:41:06,280 --> 01:41:08,840
Speaker 8: But I think it's more easy to develop skills I'm

2164
01:41:08,920 --> 01:41:10,639
Speaker 8: talking about.

2165
01:41:11,360 --> 01:41:13,160
Speaker 7: I'm talking like when I bring up a guy like

2166
01:41:13,200 --> 01:41:16,599
Speaker 7: Tyreek Hill or Stefan Diggs, I'm looking at their skill set,

2167
01:41:17,160 --> 01:41:21,240
Speaker 7: not like to Evan's point, they might run the forty

2168
01:41:21,320 --> 01:41:24,000
Speaker 7: yard dash in a similar time that a lot of

2169
01:41:24,000 --> 01:41:26,280
Speaker 7: these soccer players do. That's not what I'm talking about

2170
01:41:26,280 --> 01:41:29,360
Speaker 7: their endurance and whatnot. It's probably similar to these guys

2171
01:41:29,400 --> 01:41:32,840
Speaker 7: are world class athletes. I'm talking about a skill set

2172
01:41:32,960 --> 01:41:36,720
Speaker 7: that I think there are other players that might be

2173
01:41:36,720 --> 01:41:39,439
Speaker 7: better at the skill if they did what.

2174
01:41:39,280 --> 01:41:40,800
Speaker 1: The email is talking about.

2175
01:41:41,840 --> 01:41:43,760
Speaker 7: If they if they grew up with a soccer ball

2176
01:41:43,800 --> 01:41:47,880
Speaker 7: on their foot three years old, I think that they

2177
01:41:47,920 --> 01:41:52,559
Speaker 7: have a skill set that would translate and in this country,

2178
01:41:52,600 --> 01:41:54,080
Speaker 7: for better or worse. I'm not telling you it's right

2179
01:41:54,160 --> 01:41:57,519
Speaker 7: or wrong. They don't gravitate to that sport. They gravitate

2180
01:41:57,560 --> 01:41:58,280
Speaker 7: to other sports.

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01:41:58,280 --> 01:42:00,360
Speaker 9: Well, that comes with time. Like that comes, it's so

2182
01:42:00,560 --> 01:42:02,919
Speaker 9: much time. It's like golf, It's like hitting a baseball.

2183
01:42:03,000 --> 01:42:04,599
Speaker 9: It's reps, it's practice.

2184
01:42:04,840 --> 01:42:06,040
Speaker 1: Golf is a perfect example.

2185
01:42:06,280 --> 01:42:08,000
Speaker 7: I don't think a lot of people would say a

2186
01:42:08,040 --> 01:42:11,160
Speaker 7: golfer is a tremendous athlete.

2187
01:42:11,800 --> 01:42:12,920
Speaker 1: Okay, but there are a lot.

2188
01:42:13,000 --> 01:42:17,400
Speaker 7: I mean, like brooks Kepta is like respect totally, but

2189
01:42:17,520 --> 01:42:23,280
Speaker 7: like Rory McElroy is a tremendous condition tiger. They have athleticism,

2190
01:42:23,360 --> 01:42:25,479
Speaker 7: but it's more of a skill that I'm talking about

2191
01:42:25,520 --> 01:42:27,360
Speaker 7: than they're just pure athletics, like.

2192
01:42:27,320 --> 01:42:30,599
Speaker 10: Ricky Fowler too. That's most people wouldn't look at him

2193
01:42:30,640 --> 01:42:33,760
Speaker 10: and be like, that's an athlete, you know, great golfer.

2194
01:42:33,840 --> 01:42:40,520
Speaker 1: Daily dark.

2195
01:42:42,880 --> 01:42:45,479
Speaker 2: How much would it benefit the United States as a

2196
01:42:45,520 --> 01:42:51,640
Speaker 2: country to be the superpower of soccer in the world benefit.

2197
01:42:52,880 --> 01:42:56,519
Speaker 1: I think it would benefit the world stage. I don't know,

2198
01:42:56,960 --> 01:42:59,200
Speaker 1: probably not any more than us being a superpower and

2199
01:42:59,240 --> 01:42:59,600
Speaker 1: basket in.

2200
01:42:59,600 --> 01:43:02,080
Speaker 2: Other words, you know, you always look at the benefits,

2201
01:43:02,080 --> 01:43:05,640
Speaker 2: the financial or otherwise. Is it more beneficial for the

2202
01:43:06,600 --> 01:43:09,519
Speaker 2: country to be better at soccer than American football?

2203
01:43:10,040 --> 01:43:10,200
Speaker 3: Well?

2204
01:43:10,240 --> 01:43:15,680
Speaker 1: I do think that because soccer is so internationally famous

2205
01:43:16,320 --> 01:43:18,760
Speaker 1: that if you look at like the athletes that have

2206
01:43:18,920 --> 01:43:22,080
Speaker 1: like the most like social media followers, it's almost always

2207
01:43:22,120 --> 01:43:24,840
Speaker 1: soccer players. Oh yeah, because they there's just such a

2208
01:43:24,920 --> 01:43:28,240
Speaker 1: larger audience, because the whole world, it's the whole world.

2209
01:43:28,520 --> 01:43:30,120
Speaker 2: They have more than their team themselves.

2210
01:43:30,240 --> 01:43:32,519
Speaker 1: Yeah right, so I guess in that sense it probably

2211
01:43:32,520 --> 01:43:33,760
Speaker 1: would be better. Official was it.

2212
01:43:33,800 --> 01:43:38,440
Speaker 9: The Cape Verdian goalkeeper got eight million followers overnight? Yeah, overnight,

2213
01:43:38,600 --> 01:43:41,519
Speaker 9: you can he could never play a game of soccer again,

2214
01:43:41,600 --> 01:43:43,519
Speaker 9: And with eight million followers, you can make a living

2215
01:43:43,560 --> 01:43:44,400
Speaker 9: for the rest of your life.

2216
01:43:44,479 --> 01:43:45,679
Speaker 1: Dude's a man. He's forty.

2217
01:43:46,000 --> 01:43:46,639
Speaker 10: I'm a man.

2218
01:43:47,439 --> 01:43:51,360
Speaker 2: Uh call from Galway. Just a quick note or point

2219
01:43:51,479 --> 01:43:55,360
Speaker 2: that the qualification for US to a World Cup is

2220
01:43:55,479 --> 01:43:58,280
Speaker 2: much easier than that for a European team where the

2221
01:43:58,280 --> 01:44:01,400
Speaker 2: teams are much better. On average, teams can struggle like

2222
01:44:01,479 --> 01:44:04,960
Speaker 2: Italy and a lot of similarly talented teams as the

2223
01:44:05,080 --> 01:44:06,679
Speaker 2: US find it hard to compete.

2224
01:44:07,600 --> 01:44:10,000
Speaker 1: There's some truth to that, but there's also you know,

2225
01:44:10,040 --> 01:44:14,519
Speaker 1: Europe has more like ways to qualify that be to

2226
01:44:14,640 --> 01:44:18,439
Speaker 1: try to circumvent that, because it is would be unfair

2227
01:44:18,479 --> 01:44:21,719
Speaker 1: if it was like, you know, equal across the board.

2228
01:44:21,960 --> 01:44:24,519
Speaker 1: You know, US qualifies through CONCA cap not this time

2229
01:44:24,560 --> 01:44:28,280
Speaker 1: because of they hosted in the host nation automatically makes it.

2230
01:44:28,439 --> 01:44:32,160
Speaker 1: But I think the US would have qualified anyways. But yeah,

2231
01:44:32,240 --> 01:44:35,320
Speaker 1: it's it's a good point. You know that they're they're

2232
01:44:35,520 --> 01:44:39,760
Speaker 1: they try their best to create like quality playoff qualifiers

2233
01:44:39,800 --> 01:44:42,559
Speaker 1: and stuff like that that would allow like Italy did

2234
01:44:42,560 --> 01:44:45,200
Speaker 1: it to himself, Like I'm not giving Italy and out like.

2235
01:44:45,280 --> 01:44:46,000
Speaker 2: I'm not giving it.

2236
01:44:46,400 --> 01:44:50,000
Speaker 7: I'm just saying they're better, Like they may they underachieved

2237
01:44:50,000 --> 01:44:51,000
Speaker 7: and they have no one to blame.

2238
01:44:51,040 --> 01:44:51,680
Speaker 1: But themselves.

2239
01:44:51,680 --> 01:44:56,360
Speaker 7: But I mean, just it's tempt team the better, and

2240
01:44:56,520 --> 01:44:58,479
Speaker 7: just because ones in the World Cup and one isn't.

2241
01:44:58,560 --> 01:45:03,120
Speaker 1: The email is right now, they're definitely historically better. For sure,

2242
01:45:03,320 --> 01:45:07,240
Speaker 1: they're not even close. Definitely a much bigger soccer power.

2243
01:45:07,280 --> 01:45:09,519
Speaker 1: I don't know if the eleven guys in Italy would

2244
01:45:09,520 --> 01:45:12,720
Speaker 1: feel tomorrow versus our eleven guys that. I don't know

2245
01:45:12,720 --> 01:45:14,320
Speaker 1: if that how competitive that game would be.

2246
01:45:16,520 --> 01:45:24,240
Speaker 2: Let's see a lot of emails all different subjects. Eric says,

2247
01:45:24,280 --> 01:45:26,720
Speaker 2: I've been really enjoying the off season talk so far.

2248
01:45:26,800 --> 01:45:29,839
Speaker 2: The shows have been fantastic, even when you're talking about

2249
01:45:30,040 --> 01:45:32,360
Speaker 2: the obvious fact that there has to be life somewhere

2250
01:45:32,400 --> 01:45:35,280
Speaker 2: else in the galaxy. It's just too big for humans

2251
01:45:35,320 --> 01:45:37,360
Speaker 2: to be the only intelligent life out there. The World

2252
01:45:37,400 --> 01:45:40,960
Speaker 2: Cup has really taken over the timeline on my social media,

2253
01:45:41,000 --> 01:45:44,719
Speaker 2: and I wanted to ask which every four year event

2254
01:45:44,800 --> 01:45:49,040
Speaker 2: do you like more, the World Cup or the Summer Olympics.

2255
01:45:50,240 --> 01:45:55,720
Speaker 7: Ah, I like the Winter Olympics more than Okay, we'll

2256
01:45:55,720 --> 01:45:58,400
Speaker 7: throw that in there, winter Summer or World win.

2257
01:45:58,400 --> 01:46:01,719
Speaker 8: Olympics, but I'd probably go Summer Olympics just more variety.

2258
01:46:02,080 --> 01:46:04,000
Speaker 7: I like the winner because of the hockey. I the

2259
01:46:04,000 --> 01:46:07,439
Speaker 7: hockey's tremendous. But yeah, I would say both Olympics for me.

2260
01:46:07,640 --> 01:46:11,200
Speaker 7: But I mean, obviously I'm not a soccer.

2261
01:46:11,040 --> 01:46:13,439
Speaker 1: Is the World Baseball thing is that every four years

2262
01:46:14,439 --> 01:46:16,879
Speaker 1: it's going to be And this last one was awesome,

2263
01:46:17,439 --> 01:46:18,280
Speaker 1: was one.

2264
01:46:18,120 --> 01:46:20,280
Speaker 2: Of the better. And the hockey one was good too.

2265
01:46:20,800 --> 01:46:25,720
Speaker 1: Well that was four nations the Olympics or the Olympics. Yeah,

2266
01:46:25,760 --> 01:46:29,040
Speaker 1: but yeah, the World Baseball Classic was a huge success

2267
01:46:29,120 --> 01:46:31,840
Speaker 1: this time around. It was really good and really competitive

2268
01:46:32,320 --> 01:46:36,720
Speaker 1: games and dominant teams and everything. But I don't know,

2269
01:46:36,880 --> 01:46:39,600
Speaker 1: it's a hard question because they're also different, Like the

2270
01:46:39,600 --> 01:46:41,080
Speaker 1: Olympics is dominated.

2271
01:46:40,640 --> 01:46:43,599
Speaker 2: By which one do you spend more time watching?

2272
01:46:42,880 --> 01:46:44,920
Speaker 1: I watch a lot of all of it.

2273
01:46:45,560 --> 01:46:47,600
Speaker 8: I think I watch about the same. I flipped them on.

2274
01:46:47,680 --> 01:46:50,040
Speaker 8: I watch a little here and there. I'm never like

2275
01:46:50,120 --> 01:46:52,160
Speaker 8: sitting down to oh I got to watch the five

2276
01:46:52,240 --> 01:46:52,760
Speaker 8: hundred event.

2277
01:46:52,920 --> 01:46:54,960
Speaker 2: Here's the other thing that we have to remember about

2278
01:46:55,040 --> 01:46:58,400
Speaker 2: this year's World Cup. It's in our time zone. So

2279
01:46:58,439 --> 01:47:02,280
Speaker 2: I remember last World Summer Olympics. Where was it?

2280
01:47:02,280 --> 01:47:06,400
Speaker 1: It was in last Summer Olympics. The one that just

2281
01:47:06,439 --> 01:47:08,960
Speaker 1: happened was in Europe, wasn't it. But you mean the

2282
01:47:08,960 --> 01:47:13,599
Speaker 1: Winter Olympics whatever whatever it was France. Yeah, yeah, the.

2283
01:47:13,520 --> 01:47:17,560
Speaker 2: Time zone was like it sucked because things have already happened,

2284
01:47:17,680 --> 01:47:19,840
Speaker 2: and you know, you didn't get a lot of live

2285
01:47:19,920 --> 01:47:23,120
Speaker 2: stuff that night when you sat down. This is perfect

2286
01:47:23,160 --> 01:47:26,719
Speaker 2: for us because it's all live at night when we

2287
01:47:26,840 --> 01:47:27,559
Speaker 2: in prime time.

2288
01:47:27,640 --> 01:47:29,839
Speaker 7: Yeah, I thought, like, I mean, I think the Olympics,

2289
01:47:29,880 --> 01:47:33,080
Speaker 7: the Winter Olympics that just finished in February, we were in Italy,

2290
01:47:33,720 --> 01:47:36,040
Speaker 7: and so that you know that there's an obvious time

2291
01:47:36,280 --> 01:47:37,960
Speaker 7: but there was a lot of stuff that you got

2292
01:47:37,960 --> 01:47:39,439
Speaker 7: to watch live. Now there's a lot of stuff to

2293
01:47:39,479 --> 01:47:42,360
Speaker 7: Fred's point that was you already knew, but like if

2294
01:47:42,400 --> 01:47:45,679
Speaker 7: you want to you know, not no results and watch

2295
01:47:45,720 --> 01:47:49,519
Speaker 7: you can. Like I watched those hockey games live and

2296
01:47:49,560 --> 01:47:51,639
Speaker 7: they were at odd times that the women and men

2297
01:47:51,720 --> 01:47:55,960
Speaker 7: were both tremendous to watch those, you know, the tournaments.

2298
01:47:56,600 --> 01:47:59,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the gold medal basketball game was like

2299
01:47:59,640 --> 01:48:02,439
Speaker 1: early afternoon here because it was like a night game

2300
01:48:02,680 --> 01:48:04,439
Speaker 1: in Paris, but.

2301
01:48:04,360 --> 01:48:07,200
Speaker 9: Before like the metal rounds and stuff like are you

2302
01:48:07,280 --> 01:48:12,040
Speaker 9: watching the early stage games and stuff like for the US.

2303
01:48:12,120 --> 01:48:13,960
Speaker 5: I watched.

2304
01:48:14,040 --> 01:48:17,680
Speaker 7: I watched that, But I'm and that that might just

2305
01:48:17,720 --> 01:48:19,720
Speaker 7: be like the reason why I would say winter over

2306
01:48:19,720 --> 01:48:22,720
Speaker 7: summers because I probably like hockey more than I like basketball.

2307
01:48:22,880 --> 01:48:25,479
Speaker 2: Same same, you like hockey more than basketball.

2308
01:48:25,560 --> 01:48:27,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you already knew that about Deuce.

2309
01:48:27,400 --> 01:48:30,879
Speaker 7: Really, I mean, come on, yeah, you really do, especially

2310
01:48:30,920 --> 01:48:31,599
Speaker 7: at the pro level.

2311
01:48:31,640 --> 01:48:32,800
Speaker 2: You're not just being performative.

2312
01:48:32,840 --> 01:48:36,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, college, I could do. You have to be college

2313
01:48:36,040 --> 01:48:38,200
Speaker 7: I could. I could make an argument for March madness.

2314
01:48:38,240 --> 01:48:41,559
Speaker 7: And you know, like the college basketball tournament's much better

2315
01:48:41,600 --> 01:48:44,559
Speaker 7: than the college hockey tournament, even though I love you.

2316
01:48:44,520 --> 01:48:47,280
Speaker 2: Like hockey better because Northeastern is better at hockey.

2317
01:48:48,320 --> 01:48:49,880
Speaker 1: No, that's good.

2318
01:48:49,960 --> 01:48:51,320
Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure this out here.

2319
01:48:51,760 --> 01:48:52,439
Speaker 1: It's a great watch.

2320
01:48:52,479 --> 01:48:53,639
Speaker 5: Do you not like hockey, Fred.

2321
01:48:53,520 --> 01:48:55,519
Speaker 2: Or I like hockey?

2322
01:48:55,880 --> 01:48:58,120
Speaker 7: It's that the NBA's If you asked me that question

2323
01:48:58,160 --> 01:49:00,040
Speaker 7: in the eighties, it would have been the opposite. I

2324
01:49:00,080 --> 01:49:03,200
Speaker 7: would have said the basketball. I don't like, you know,

2325
01:49:04,240 --> 01:49:07,160
Speaker 7: fifty five three pointers being chucked every single game, and

2326
01:49:07,200 --> 01:49:10,000
Speaker 7: even the teams that don't do that as much still

2327
01:49:10,040 --> 01:49:10,920
Speaker 7: like over forty.

2328
01:49:11,760 --> 01:49:13,879
Speaker 1: Like it's not really a I don't.

2329
01:49:13,680 --> 01:49:15,240
Speaker 2: Think it's away the game.

2330
01:49:15,320 --> 01:49:17,040
Speaker 1: I don't like the way the games get played. Okay,

2331
01:49:17,080 --> 01:49:19,360
Speaker 1: they were shooting from the same spots on the floor,

2332
01:49:19,400 --> 01:49:21,439
Speaker 1: but there was no three point line. Would you still

2333
01:49:21,479 --> 01:49:21,960
Speaker 1: all hate it?

2334
01:49:22,000 --> 01:49:24,880
Speaker 9: Because I feel like the three is just such a

2335
01:49:26,120 --> 01:49:29,760
Speaker 9: san Antonio series. Yeah, there is a lot ninetiesstball, so

2336
01:49:29,920 --> 01:49:31,040
Speaker 9: I liked.

2337
01:49:30,880 --> 01:49:31,320
Speaker 1: Some of that.

2338
01:49:31,479 --> 01:49:34,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I actually the playoffs this year, as

2339
01:49:34,760 --> 01:49:38,200
Speaker 7: much as I criticized the NBA, were really pretty entertaining

2340
01:49:38,680 --> 01:49:43,880
Speaker 7: all around. It's I just wish there was more variety

2341
01:49:44,000 --> 01:49:46,479
Speaker 7: to the way the game is played, and to Alex's point,

2342
01:49:46,680 --> 01:49:48,320
Speaker 7: san Antonio gives you.

2343
01:49:48,320 --> 01:49:48,920
Speaker 1: A little of that.

2344
01:49:49,120 --> 01:49:51,439
Speaker 7: And I also kind of like the fact that Wenby's

2345
01:49:51,479 --> 01:49:55,360
Speaker 7: kind of doing the the WWE heel, you.

2346
01:49:55,280 --> 01:49:57,280
Speaker 1: Know, and I think he's kind of embracing bad guy.

2347
01:49:57,360 --> 01:50:00,599
Speaker 1: He's embracing being a heel. I don't like that, you villains,

2348
01:50:00,600 --> 01:50:03,000
Speaker 1: He's kind of playing like one. Like it's not like

2349
01:50:03,320 --> 01:50:06,439
Speaker 1: I mean, the guy had more flavorant fouls than anybody

2350
01:50:06,439 --> 01:50:08,120
Speaker 1: else in the playoffs and almost was going to miss

2351
01:50:08,160 --> 01:50:10,320
Speaker 1: a finals game. He's unapologetic about it.

2352
01:50:10,560 --> 01:50:14,360
Speaker 2: I think, uh, you know, because teams are trying to

2353
01:50:14,439 --> 01:50:16,240
Speaker 2: rough him up, so he needs to fight back.

2354
01:50:16,800 --> 01:50:19,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, he also could you know, hit the gym, but.

2355
01:50:19,280 --> 01:50:24,679
Speaker 2: What he strong, that's just's just a differently shaped than everybody.

2356
01:50:24,720 --> 01:50:25,400
Speaker 10: He's so tall.

2357
01:50:28,520 --> 01:50:32,000
Speaker 2: I don't think like that tall you don't want to

2358
01:50:32,040 --> 01:50:32,559
Speaker 2: buke up.

2359
01:50:32,640 --> 01:50:34,720
Speaker 1: I didn't realize that it was so controversial, But say

2360
01:50:34,720 --> 01:50:36,760
Speaker 1: he needs to get stronger. I don't think that's controversial

2361
01:50:36,760 --> 01:50:37,040
Speaker 1: at all.

2362
01:50:37,120 --> 01:50:37,840
Speaker 2: Well, I don't.

2363
01:50:37,920 --> 01:50:41,080
Speaker 1: I don't like, what's your definition of strong, Like he's

2364
01:50:41,120 --> 01:50:43,880
Speaker 1: not going to get muscly No. I just you know, well,

2365
01:50:43,960 --> 01:50:45,840
Speaker 1: he plays and I have no problem with it. But

2366
01:50:45,920 --> 01:50:48,439
Speaker 1: some people do like he plays like Kevin Durant. He

2367
01:50:48,479 --> 01:50:51,280
Speaker 1: plays like a seven six Kevin Durant. And so there's

2368
01:50:51,280 --> 01:50:53,720
Speaker 1: so many people that I hear that are watching these

2369
01:50:53,760 --> 01:50:56,880
Speaker 1: games that are yelling get his seven six but in

2370
01:50:56,920 --> 01:50:58,960
Speaker 1: the post, like what are we doing? And that's not

2371
01:50:59,040 --> 01:51:00,920
Speaker 1: his game, and say he he's a face up player,

2372
01:51:01,040 --> 01:51:03,680
Speaker 1: Like he's a guy he plays thereund you know he

2373
01:51:03,680 --> 01:51:06,680
Speaker 1: he's not. He's not a old school back to the

2374
01:51:06,720 --> 01:51:08,439
Speaker 1: basket player. That's not who he is.

2375
01:51:08,680 --> 01:51:11,559
Speaker 2: But I like, he's not afraid to drive to the

2376
01:51:11,600 --> 01:51:12,799
Speaker 2: hoop and take his hits.

2377
01:51:13,120 --> 01:51:15,400
Speaker 1: No, I'm like, I don't think he's a baby or anything.

2378
01:51:15,439 --> 01:51:18,200
Speaker 1: I just think that, you know, there's Paul says that

2379
01:51:18,280 --> 01:51:19,880
Speaker 1: he you know, he doesn't like the style of play,

2380
01:51:19,920 --> 01:51:22,760
Speaker 1: and I think that, you know, Wemby should Wenby in

2381
01:51:22,800 --> 01:51:24,640
Speaker 1: the eighties or the nineties would have been back to

2382
01:51:24,680 --> 01:51:26,560
Speaker 1: the basket player. He would have been posting up and

2383
01:51:26,560 --> 01:51:27,760
Speaker 1: they would have been thrown them the ball and he

2384
01:51:27,760 --> 01:51:29,120
Speaker 1: would have been making kareem hook shot.

2385
01:51:29,160 --> 01:51:31,240
Speaker 7: And to be clear, I don't want all of that either.

2386
01:51:31,360 --> 01:51:35,040
Speaker 7: I just wish there was some variety. It's basically five out,

2387
01:51:35,640 --> 01:51:39,120
Speaker 7: pass it around, driving dish for an open three, and

2388
01:51:39,160 --> 01:51:42,240
Speaker 7: that's how almost everybody plays. To Alex's point, I think

2389
01:51:42,280 --> 01:51:43,400
Speaker 7: OKC doesn't.

2390
01:51:43,120 --> 01:51:46,639
Speaker 2: Really play like shy a little bit.

2391
01:51:46,720 --> 01:51:48,800
Speaker 1: But no, they don't. They don't shoot as many threes

2392
01:51:48,800 --> 01:51:49,200
Speaker 1: as most.

2393
01:51:49,240 --> 01:51:51,320
Speaker 2: They don't and they don't there was constant moves.

2394
01:51:52,120 --> 01:51:55,280
Speaker 7: Brentson's not afraid to penetrate and pull up, which I

2395
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Speaker 7: kind of like.

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Speaker 1: I do think that those teams, you know, the two

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01:51:58,760 --> 01:52:02,559
Speaker 1: West teams and the Knicks, are maybe going to create

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01:52:02,600 --> 01:52:05,240
Speaker 1: more of that because that's how you have to win. Yeah,

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01:52:05,280 --> 01:52:06,760
Speaker 1: they were successful with doing it.

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Speaker 2: Pascal and Harlem writes in I'm Half French. In my

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01:52:10,000 --> 01:52:12,880
Speaker 2: whole life, the only soccer I've watched regularly is the

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01:52:12,920 --> 01:52:15,839
Speaker 2: World Cup in the Olympics. To me, the biggest barrier

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01:52:15,880 --> 01:52:19,240
Speaker 2: to soccer's popularity in the US is time the European

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01:52:19,280 --> 01:52:22,080
Speaker 2: games are usually happening while we're at work or school,

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01:52:22,439 --> 01:52:25,600
Speaker 2: so growing up, the kids don't have any high level games.

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01:52:25,320 --> 01:52:27,200
Speaker 10: To watch Saturday morning EPL.

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01:52:27,320 --> 01:52:30,960
Speaker 2: I know, you got to have Peacock though, it's like

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01:52:31,080 --> 01:52:34,120
Speaker 2: trying to get kids to be football fans with the

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01:52:34,240 --> 01:52:36,680
Speaker 2: UFL or baseball fans with Triple A.

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Speaker 1: I think that the biggest issue is something that he

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01:52:40,680 --> 01:52:44,320
Speaker 1: I think was kind of hovering around, is like we

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01:52:44,360 --> 01:52:49,000
Speaker 1: don't have superstar American soccer players. We have, like you know,

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01:52:49,120 --> 01:52:51,920
Speaker 1: you can't. If you're a kid and you're an American, you

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01:52:51,960 --> 01:52:54,439
Speaker 1: can turn on the TV and you can see we're

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01:52:54,439 --> 01:52:57,600
Speaker 1: talking about Wemby. You can see Wemby play and like

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01:52:57,720 --> 01:53:01,479
Speaker 1: that you can say, you know, he's the he's the best,

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01:53:01,560 --> 01:53:04,599
Speaker 1: Like that's cool. You can watch you know, Drake May,

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01:53:04,720 --> 01:53:08,599
Speaker 1: you can watch you know well and baseball, hockey, any

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01:53:08,600 --> 01:53:08,840
Speaker 1: of them.

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01:53:08,920 --> 01:53:11,479
Speaker 2: I think you really hit on something there because you

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01:53:11,520 --> 01:53:16,519
Speaker 2: can't underestimate the influence of that superstar. Look at what

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01:53:16,600 --> 01:53:19,680
Speaker 2: Yao Ming did for basketball in China. Yeah, and now

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01:53:19,720 --> 01:53:21,880
Speaker 2: look what basketball is in China.

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01:53:21,960 --> 01:53:24,599
Speaker 5: Wing Gretzky did for hockey in La. Right, you is

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01:53:24,680 --> 01:53:26,800
Speaker 5: not You're always bring it back.

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01:53:27,160 --> 01:53:31,720
Speaker 1: You are not going to create from like I'm just

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01:53:31,760 --> 01:53:35,639
Speaker 1: gonna latch onto like Arsenal, I'm just gonna I live

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01:53:35,680 --> 01:53:38,599
Speaker 1: in America, but at eight a m. On Saturday mornings,

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01:53:38,640 --> 01:53:41,040
Speaker 1: I'm going to watch Arsenal football. You don't you don't

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01:53:41,280 --> 01:53:43,920
Speaker 1: care like you we do for Boston sports, Like that's

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01:53:43,960 --> 01:53:46,960
Speaker 1: not gonna like come, I've tried, trust me, Like it doesn't.

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01:53:47,360 --> 01:53:50,280
Speaker 1: It's not easy to create that. Whereas with the UN's

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01:53:50,320 --> 01:53:53,240
Speaker 1: mess national team, like you feel like you have a

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01:53:53,320 --> 01:53:55,240
Speaker 1: rooting interest, like you have you have a reason to

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01:53:55,320 --> 01:53:57,920
Speaker 1: root for that, you know. I think that that's for

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01:53:57,960 --> 01:54:00,479
Speaker 1: a lot of kids. Is the hardest part now is

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01:54:00,720 --> 01:54:03,800
Speaker 1: the MLS just isn't isn't that there? There isn't a player?

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01:54:04,040 --> 01:54:08,320
Speaker 2: God forbid the day when we do have this amazing,

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01:54:08,400 --> 01:54:11,040
Speaker 2: amazing soccer player and he goes and plays in the

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01:54:11,040 --> 01:54:15,200
Speaker 2: Premier League or Boondesliga, all our kids are going to

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01:54:15,200 --> 01:54:17,080
Speaker 2: be watching that league for that guy.

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01:54:18,000 --> 01:54:19,840
Speaker 8: But like, how do they find him before he gets there?

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01:54:20,000 --> 01:54:21,800
Speaker 8: You know, like how do they you know what I mean?

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01:54:21,880 --> 01:54:23,840
Speaker 8: Like is he on Clemson or.

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01:54:25,080 --> 01:54:28,080
Speaker 9: It's going to be an American dad was like stationed

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01:54:28,120 --> 01:54:30,680
Speaker 9: in the military in Europe and he actually grew up.

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01:54:30,880 --> 01:54:32,640
Speaker 7: Well, like the kid that scored all the goals the

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01:54:32,640 --> 01:54:36,320
Speaker 7: other day, who's wife went into premature labor and happened

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01:54:36,360 --> 01:54:37,720
Speaker 7: to be born in the United States.

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01:54:38,480 --> 01:54:45,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's and thank you for picking the USA.

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01:54:46,080 --> 01:54:48,800
Speaker 1: But like you know, he the reason why he picked

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01:54:48,800 --> 01:54:50,720
Speaker 1: the USA was because he didn't think he was going

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01:54:50,720 --> 01:54:53,320
Speaker 1: to play for England. Like he wasn't going to make England.

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01:54:53,720 --> 01:54:56,440
Speaker 1: So when they said to him, do you want to

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01:54:56,480 --> 01:54:56,920
Speaker 1: be English?

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01:54:56,920 --> 01:54:59,240
Speaker 10: Because he's on the shoulder we need though, but he's.

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01:54:59,000 --> 01:55:02,240
Speaker 1: Played for Englan and as a younger, younger lad he

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01:55:02,320 --> 01:55:06,320
Speaker 1: played for England and so then but then they he

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01:55:06,360 --> 01:55:08,560
Speaker 1: could have he could have played for three different teams.

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01:55:08,600 --> 01:55:11,120
Speaker 1: Actually he could have played for Nigeria too, I think,

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01:55:11,320 --> 01:55:13,400
Speaker 1: and he decided to play for the US. What are

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01:55:13,400 --> 01:55:15,160
Speaker 1: you two doing them watching the end of this game?

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01:55:17,240 --> 01:55:23,040
Speaker 7: We had we had we had a handball on them

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01:55:23,240 --> 01:55:24,720
Speaker 7: to give South penalty.

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01:55:25,880 --> 01:55:27,000
Speaker 1: Driving crazy.

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01:55:27,960 --> 01:55:30,520
Speaker 2: I'm telling you ball, it doesn't matter if it's a

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01:55:30,560 --> 01:55:31,240
Speaker 2: bouncing ball.

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01:55:31,320 --> 01:55:31,880
Speaker 1: He's watching.

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01:55:32,880 --> 01:55:35,480
Speaker 7: I'm telling you, if all the games had this amount

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01:55:35,520 --> 01:55:39,240
Speaker 7: of scoring opportunities that both ends, I would watch a lot.

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Speaker 1: Of the World Cup.

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01:55:39,680 --> 01:55:43,160
Speaker 9: Has the people that hate soccer, they saw one draw

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01:55:43,360 --> 01:55:45,800
Speaker 9: one time and it just ruined it for them.

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01:55:45,840 --> 01:55:48,839
Speaker 1: Well, I have one time every game in the tournaments

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01:55:49,080 --> 01:55:50,880
Speaker 1: draw it happens.

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01:55:51,000 --> 01:55:55,440
Speaker 8: Having watched, my feeling towards ties has evolved slightly, Like

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01:55:55,480 --> 01:55:58,280
Speaker 8: I I realized that it's a unique thing to soccer.

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01:55:58,400 --> 01:56:00,960
Speaker 8: Of like you kind of survived at this point. There's

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01:56:01,000 --> 01:56:03,880
Speaker 8: still like some value to surviving, but a win is

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01:56:03,920 --> 01:56:06,200
Speaker 8: even bigger to get, you know, three points, and.

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01:56:06,320 --> 01:56:09,160
Speaker 1: If you're an underdock then tying is huge, like if

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01:56:09,200 --> 01:56:10,960
Speaker 1: you're Cape verd and then tying.

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01:56:10,720 --> 01:56:14,240
Speaker 2: Is of getting a point. For tie, you should get minus,

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01:56:14,240 --> 01:56:15,960
Speaker 2: you should get negative for time.

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01:56:16,040 --> 01:56:16,800
Speaker 10: What do you get for a lot?

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01:56:16,800 --> 01:56:21,800
Speaker 2: And then negative negative is zero loss of zero. But

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01:56:21,880 --> 01:56:25,120
Speaker 2: for a tie you should be penalty that way, you

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01:56:25,360 --> 01:56:28,320
Speaker 2: get so urgent at the end to score.

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01:56:28,040 --> 01:56:29,800
Speaker 9: Why wouldn't you just kick an on goal at the

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01:56:29,920 --> 01:56:32,200
Speaker 9: end if you're not going to get penalized because for

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01:56:32,240 --> 01:56:32,680
Speaker 9: a lot.

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01:56:33,160 --> 01:56:43,480
Speaker 2: That's true. That kind of killed that one.

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01:56:44,080 --> 01:56:45,680
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, all.

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01:56:45,680 --> 01:56:48,520
Speaker 2: Right, all right, Well that's gonna be it for this

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Speaker 2: edition of Patriot's Unfiltered. We will be back tomorrow again

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01:56:52,800 --> 01:56:55,760
Speaker 2: with our World Cup not FIFA World Cup schedule. I'm

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01:56:55,800 --> 01:56:58,680
Speaker 2: not going to be here tomorrow tomorrow, I mean next

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Speaker 2: week next week when Wednesday holidays, Stude catch twenty two

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Speaker 2: Wednesday at two. Yes, we'll see you Wednesday Wednesday.

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