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Speaker 3: Ralph amsdon those are your options. We're talking about the

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Speaker 3: coaches that could be leaving out of the conference, the

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Speaker 3: Pac twelve championship game scenarios, the college football playoff rankings,

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Speaker 3: Oregon State, Washington State, their future and beyond, and recruiting

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Speaker 3: is closing down, so we gotta find find out more

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Speaker 3: about that. And also we are going to cover the

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Speaker 3: games this week because there was a lot that went on.

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Speaker 3: Thank god the PAC twelve refs weren't a hot topic

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Speaker 3: of discussion again, because at some point in time, it's

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Speaker 3: got to stop somewhere. It's absolutely got to stop somewhere.

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Speaker 3: And a lot of fans are like, yes, we don't

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Speaker 3: So we'll start the show today with I guess sad

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Speaker 3: news man. So and it's funny because I've been through

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Speaker 3: this many, many times, Ralph. I went through this as

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Speaker 3: a player when my coach Mike Bollatti was offered the

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Speaker 3: And then you've had you know, Chip was obviously offered

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Speaker 3: many jobs. He left and went to the Eagles. You

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Speaker 3: Mario Cristobald stay after Taggert left, keep the job, leaving,

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Speaker 2: And now you have Dan Lanny who was like, I'm

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Speaker 2: not eving leaving, I'm not having leaving.

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Speaker 3: And I love it that. But there are some other

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Speaker 3: schools that are learning how to deal with this and

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Speaker 3: all of the whole all Oregon's a stepping stone job

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Speaker 3: and this and this don't feel so good right now?

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Speaker 2: Doesn't don't feel so good.

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Speaker 4: For someone who's been through this several times. You don't

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Speaker 4: You sound like you're about to dance on some graves.

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Speaker 3: The only people I, honestly, I mean, if I'm being

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Speaker 1: Is uh.

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Speaker 3: Is Washington, Oh sorry, is Oregon State? The only people

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Speaker 3: that I have sympathy for. And do you know why?

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Speaker 4: Why?

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Speaker 3: Because there's nothing that they could have done to Like,

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Speaker 3: don't believe that Jonathan Smith even wants to leave. I

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Speaker 3: there are rumors that he is on the that it

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Speaker 3: I'm not trying to be sarcastic here. I've gotten an

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Speaker 3: what's out there in people calling. That's how that works.

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Speaker 3: I can tell you from his side, he'd best be

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Speaker 3: I'm not trying to be sarcastic. Any coach, they're aware

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Speaker 3: like like, oh, I haven't talked to anybody. Of course,

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Speaker 3: Like stop it, Crystal Baul sitting up there, I haven't

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Speaker 2: Shut up.

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Speaker 3: I knew, I knew it was fiction. Then I haven't

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Speaker 3: but your but your but your people have and you

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think he went a little bit further

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Speaker 4: could have just said, I have an agent, like that

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Speaker 4: through him, and you know, you you have to entertain

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Speaker 4: everything that comes in.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think he was tired of people lying. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I think that makes sense. But I think what it

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Speaker 4: Isn't this special hometown unicorn. He's just a businessman, so.

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Speaker 2: No, but it's it's it's not that like.

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Speaker 3: I don't look at him as a businessman because I

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Speaker 3: think he's just being smart. If he takes another job,

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Speaker 3: I don't believe that it's because they offered him more

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Speaker 3: I think that he would have wanted to turn Oregon

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Speaker 2: I think that I believe that.

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Speaker 3: The circumstances surrounding the finances make it pretty untenable because

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Speaker 3: he's he's making what five million dollars now for four

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Speaker 3: or five million dollars. That doesn't like that's that's cool

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Speaker 4: His contract kicked off, his contract extension kicked off in

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Speaker 4: doesn't matter at all, and you'll get into why, but

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Speaker 4: his contract increases one hundred thousand dollars every year. It's

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty nine. Here's my question for you why. I

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Speaker 4: I don't know how much an agent factors into that.

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Speaker 4: Maybe it's just haggling over market or fielding other offers

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Speaker 4: what we need to say day. Yeah, but what percentage

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So for players contracts in the NFL, you can't

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Speaker 2: Tell me.

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Speaker 4: Okay, uh yeah, I mean dad, ten percent? Ten percent

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Speaker 4: oh six million? I suppose? So, yeah, I mean I

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Speaker 4: guess that's a that's a I could see why you

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Speaker 4: I'm like, damn, my agent better be working.

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Speaker 1: Shit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, brother, you better be working. You're getting some

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Speaker 3: meals up off of is you better be working.

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Speaker 4: I made my agent a multimillionaire by just not leaving

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Speaker 4: the job that I was already at.

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Speaker 3: Dude, dude, I mean, even if his agent is making

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Speaker 3: five percent, that's still a million and a half bucks. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: So that's yeah, bro, This is yeah, Bro, this is

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Speaker 3: a lot of money. This is a lot of money

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Speaker 3: that we're talking about. And it's not just Jonathan Smith,

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Speaker 3: is what I was saying is that it's the other

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Speaker 3: coaches around him that have stuck by him. So, uh, Ralph, Ralph?

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Speaker 3: If so, like if CBS offered me a deal to

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Speaker 3: of this stuff, right, We've been working together for years

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Speaker 3: and then they make me an offer of ten million

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Speaker 3: dollars a year, right, and you're making a certain amount

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Speaker 3: money from this, but that's exponentially more than what we're

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Speaker 3: at right now. So if I don't take that job, right,

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Speaker 3: and mind you, it's not like an increase in like

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Speaker 2: Right, So aren't you gonna come to me or or

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Speaker 2: Aaron come come to.

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Speaker 3: Me your wife and say, George, you're not even gonna

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Speaker 3: like entertain this.

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Speaker 2: I need you to explain to me why you don't.

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Speaker 3: You don't you don't think that if Aaron knew that

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Speaker 3: the assistant coach, I'm paid way less than you. Why

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Speaker 3: aren't you taking this job? Or at least like like

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Speaker 4: Right? Because if if if in your scenario, Jonathan Smith

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Speaker 2: You know, he or at least the people that he

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean Brian Lndren has been his oc for

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Speaker 4: This is Trent Bray's second season, and I think he

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Speaker 3: He's paid I believe eight twenty five right now, eight

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Speaker 3: twenty five. You don't think that he's that he could

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Speaker 4: I think he could probably get two to three to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but but I'm just talking about oh seing like

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Speaker 3: that if that if Jonathan Smith took the Michigan State job,

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Speaker 3: you don't think that Brian Lingren is going to be

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Speaker 3: at least at one point three to one point four

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Speaker 3: maybe one point five.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, or three to stay at Oregon State.

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Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, either way helps him. Yes, either way he

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Speaker 4: I do just want to point out how funny it

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Speaker 4: a second, because you were about two minutes into winding

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Speaker 4: up a fastball asking me a question about if I

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Speaker 4: would come to you about something financial, and right in

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Speaker 4: the middle of it, realized that, like, I have probably

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Speaker 4: the strangest attitude toward money off anybody you know. Yes,

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Speaker 4: I just love that, like because for people who I

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Speaker 4: laughing the whole time that you were phrasing that question

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Speaker 3: that's two hundred to Washington State, two hundred to you

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Speaker 4: If you're not under contract here. So I'm just gonna

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Speaker 2: No stream them on YouTube, bro or YouTube.

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Speaker 4: You'll get someone. You'll get Texas A and M knocking

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Speaker 4: That man hasn't lost enough to not believe that he

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Speaker 4: Or do you say, like, I'm really good at what

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Speaker 3: Him, yep, So do you believe that he will be?

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Speaker 2: So the question is, though.

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Speaker 4: This feels contingent on, doesn't it feel a little bit

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Speaker 4: You can't be in the hunt for the national championship

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was upset.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, dude, that I have seen it firsthand.

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Speaker 2: This is where.

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Speaker 2: Ralph. If you go to their.

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Speaker 3: Twenty four to seven site, which is dog Man, how

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Speaker 3: many threads do you think that there are? Well, sorry prior,

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Speaker 4: It would be all of them, that would be It

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Speaker 3: You go on their page, you have to scroll down.

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Speaker 3: There is not one single solitary thread about it.

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Speaker 2: Not one, not one.

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Speaker 3: The the The last one I saw was from last

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Speaker 3: They have locked down the bat, the bat and ship.

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Speaker 3: They have batten down the hatches. They're they're not even

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Speaker 2: Talk about it. Which is which which I think is garbage.

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Speaker 3: But but pretending it's not there isn't gonna make it

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Speaker 2: But but their.

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Speaker 3: Top thread though coach Jonathan Smith's interview with John Canzano.

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Speaker 4: They don't want to believe it's happening to them, not

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Speaker 3: No, Nope, nope, so it and this is the time

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Speaker 3: Yeah they're they're not gonna feel the love that they're

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Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I get it. I get it. I don't know.

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Speaker 4: right now, you know you're you're gonna go and grab

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Speaker 3: YEP, one hundred percent all right now. On to Chip Kelly.

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Speaker 3: Chip Kelly and UCLA beat up USC after rumors that

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Speaker 3: he was going to get fired. Their athletic director came

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Speaker 4: Yes, I mean I've well, first of all, I've never

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Speaker 4: why just ask my ad about it, and he said

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because and Wasserman writing him checks. So if anybody know,

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Speaker 3: if he get getting fired, Kate Casey Wasserman, he would

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Speaker 3: believe he's leaving Colorado. That would mean he would have

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Speaker 3: to leave both of his sons there unless Shiloh has

441
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Speaker 3: graduated again, because Shiloh has transferred twice and and Shaudor

442
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 3: just used up his transfer. So unless they got something

443
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 3: you know, grad transfer, double grad transfer thing going, he

444
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,479
Speaker 3: can't leave. So I think that that squashes that. And

445
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 3: Kebash is that and Nike's doing so much stuff with

446
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 3: Dion that I think it makes it impossible for him

447
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 3: to leave at least this upcoming year.

448
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 4: Agree with you, would not make sense for him to

449
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 4: leave it all. None of the jobs that are open

450
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 4: right now make a whole lot of sense for him. Anyway.

451
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 4: I think he could do some good things at Michigan State.

452
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 4: But I think Michigan State wants to hire somebody in

453
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Speaker 4: the interim that like is the most uninteresting person in

454
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Speaker 4: the world.

455
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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, if that makes sense.

456
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 3: Hey, someone would Matt Ishbia suggests that's who they would

457
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Speaker 3: be hiring.

458
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 4: Right exactly because he was he was down to fund

459
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 4: the entire mel Tucker contract. But I don't know, man,

460
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 4: I think that you know, a lot of people point

461
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 4: to Florida jobs and less I feel less and less

462
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 4: like Deon Sanders is going to go to the Southeast

463
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Speaker 4: when the time comes. Yes, I think Dion's future is

464
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Speaker 4: probably in the state of Texas.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's where he spent.

466
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 4: The most of his time, right.

467
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 3: Yep, And yeah, he's definitely gonna want to be somewhere

468
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,640
Speaker 3: a bit warmer.

469
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Speaker 4: And so I yeah, I I I think that his

470
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 4: future is probably you know, if Houston ever moves on

471
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Speaker 4: from from Deana Holgerson, if you know TCU gets sick

472
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Speaker 4: of Sunny Dike's the way that cal did you know,

473
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,239
Speaker 4: because their raid only gets you so far, or you know,

474
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Speaker 4: if you know, I think SMU's staff is is you know,

475
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 4: gonna get picked off by somebody sometime soon. You know,

476
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Speaker 4: I think it would probably be an opening that would

477
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 4: take place in the future in the state of Texas.

478
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Speaker 4: I don't I don't see him leaving Colorado for at

479
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 4: least two years beyond this.

480
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think he's there for at least a

481
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Speaker 2: little while. And you think he's gonna leave Travis Hunter.

482
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Speaker 3: Too, No, right, no, exactly, all right, and then the

483
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:40,479
Speaker 3: last coach is Jedfish Jadfish over Arizona who they have

484
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 3: two hundred they have they miscalculated apparently they're budget by

485
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:50,479
Speaker 3: two hundred and forty dollars, and that means that the

486
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 3: being counters are going to be out about recruiting. They're

487
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 3: going to be out about every dollar that is spent.

488
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 3: They're talking about potentially cutting sports because they have so

489
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 3: many sports had it into the Big twelve, which I

490
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 3: hate the idea of that over money, but I do wonder. Now,

491
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 3: apparently according to Arizona people, they'll tell you that there's

492
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Speaker 3: a different bucket of money for the head coaches, but

493
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 3: that then the athletic department. And I wonder if Arizona

494
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Speaker 3: has enough donors to be like, all right, bro, we're

495
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Speaker 3: gonna step Jed Fish up from two point eight to

496
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Speaker 3: five and a half six and a half million.

497
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Speaker 2: Dollars if they have enough for that.

498
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Speaker 4: Yeah, he doesn't make a lot.

499
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Speaker 2: No, he's at two point eight.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he's gonna have to at least are

501
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Speaker 4: they they just they did recently extend him. I don't know, man,

502
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Speaker 4: where are they gonna get the money from? How are

503
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Speaker 4: they gonna justify making cuts? And I know that football

504
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 4: funds itself. I know this. You know this, yep, But

505
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 4: how are they going to justify it to the university

506
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 4: community while cutting things? It's hard enough to sneak that

507
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 4: through without people getting upset when you're when when you

508
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 4: know you can say, hey, this literally completely pays for itself,

509
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 4: you know, people will still say this is a public university.

510
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 4: There's there's there's still issues. What are you gonna do

511
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 4: when when they go to the rowing team, they go

512
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 4: to the golf team and you know, and they're they're

513
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 4: taking stuff away? Yep.

514
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Speaker 2: You ain't never lied about that, Buddy, never lied about that.

515
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 4: To be fair. Also, to be very clear here, I

516
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 4: don't think that Tucson has a rowing team. I just

517
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 4: use that as an example.

518
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 3: Hey, it might be doing crew and the crue in

519
00:31:55,080 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 3: a in a river out there or something. Yeah, all right,

520
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 3: on to the next thing now that we've covered those coaches.

521
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:08,719
Speaker 3: So the PAC twelve Championship scenarios, there are two scenarios.

522
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Speaker 3: One Oregon plays well, Washington plays Oregon. Number two Washington

523
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 3: plays Arizona. So it would need Arizona to win the

524
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 3: Territorial Cup versus Arizona State, and for Oregon State to

525
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Speaker 3: beat Oregon.

526
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Speaker 2: How likely do you think.

527
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Speaker 3: That either one of those two things is to happen

528
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Speaker 3: or both of them.

529
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Speaker 4: I don't. I mentally, since about week six, I've been

530
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Speaker 4: prepared for Oregon in Washington and nothing else. My brain

531
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Speaker 4: is not even allowing me to entertain the possibility of

532
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Speaker 4: anything else happening. I think, I mean, I know we

533
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 4: do our picks later, but I think Oregon is going

534
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 4: to run through Oregon State.

535
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 2: What I do with this Johnson Smith stuff coming up?

536
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I I want to believe, even though Washington

537
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 4: has played with fire quite a bit, that the Apple

538
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 4: Cups shouldn't even be in question.

539
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, it shouldn't be. It should not be. However, Washington's

540
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 3: played way too many closed games for me to just

541
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 3: feel just unequivocally you know what I mean, like like

542
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 3: to feel like I am, like I don't have any

543
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 3: fear about this.

544
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and they're like one hundred and nineteenth and

545
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 4: passing yards against and like eighty third and overall defense

546
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 4: the defensive numbers. Like there's two stories being told here. One,

547
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 4: Washington has played three of the best offenses in the country,

548
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 4: three of the top eighteen offenses in the country. Many

549
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 4: people can say that, right, And the other part of

550
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 4: it is they also just have not done a good job.

551
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 4: Some people say that their offensive style lends the defense

552
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 4: to just being on the field more. I didn't believe

553
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,439
Speaker 4: it when USC fans were saying it, and I don't

554
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 4: necessarily believe it here. Only recently have University of Washington's

555
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 4: pass rushers been getting home. Only recently they do look better,

556
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 4: and you know, their defensive backs had gotten toasted a

557
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 4: little bit. And so I don't know, I know what

558
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:42,320
Speaker 4: Washington State is capable of. Here's where Washington State can't compete.

559
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 4: They don't have the athletes. If Washington went if Washington

560
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:48,399
Speaker 4: went into this game and they were just like it's

561
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 4: a Dylan Johnson game and they just decided to be

562
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 4: more physical they're gonna run away with it. But if

563
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 4: they go in there, try to be themselves, play tight.

564
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 4: You know. I do think they should change things up

565
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 4: and just put this game away. I just don't know

566
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 4: if because Michael Pannix is in the middle of a

567
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 4: Heisman race, there's pressure on them to go in and

568
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 4: look good. Yep, because now we got eye test involved.

569
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 4: They just barely, barely, barely jumped Florida State. Florida station

570
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 4: shifted on Florida. It's gonna matter what Washington does against

571
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Speaker 4: Washington State.

572
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 3: Washington should be in front of Florida State and Michigan

573
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 3: and maybe Ohio State if you put their resume. And

574
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 3: we talk about this on YouTube, so guys go to

575
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 3: the YouTube channel, go check it out. If Ohio State, Michigan,

576
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:55,399
Speaker 3: Notre Dame USC, anybody had this resume that Washington has,

577
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 3: because nobody has a resume this good, and they say, oh,

578
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 3: they haven't good. Hell, Michigan ain't looked good the last

579
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 3: couple of weeks and and before the last and before

580
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 3: the pends that game, they had not even played a

581
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 3: team that was ranked, not even not even in the

582
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 3: ap pole at any point in time Like that's not

583
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 3: ever ranked. They talk about Oregon or everybody Oregon beat

584
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 3: then then gets knocked out, like like they beat them

585
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 3: up and then all of a sudden they fall apart,

586
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:31,959
Speaker 3: and then we're gonna sit up here and act.

587
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 2: It's frustrating, bro, It's frustrating.

588
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 3: And you know how bad it has to be for

589
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 3: me to be making YouTube videos and videos stamping for.

590
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 2: Washington. You know how bad it has to be.

591
00:36:53,840 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 4: This is true. So I just think it if one

592
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 4: team is at risk this weekend, to me, it's Washington

593
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 4: just because they be pressing a little bit and they

594
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 4: played so many close games. But again, I can't I

595
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 4: can't entertain anything other than an Oregon Washington rematch. I

596
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 4: what do you think about the likelihood of any other scenario.

597
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 3: I think that you have to handle your business that's

598
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 3: standing right and right in front of you before you

599
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 3: get to before you get to worry about other people's stuff,

600
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 3: because that's how you lose football games. And I do

601
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 3: and I do not want Oregon looking past them.

602
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 2: Talk to the coaches. Coaches said they had a good

603
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Speaker 2: week of practice.

604
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Speaker 3: And that the guys are focused, and honestly, Ralph, that

605
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 3: is all I care about at this point in time.

606
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 3: That is literally all I care about is that those

607
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,320
Speaker 3: dudes are focused on every single level.

608
00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 2: That is all I care about. So yes, so, yes,

609
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 2: I So that's a long way or in a roundabout way.

610
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 3: To say that that, yes, I do believe that there

611
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 3: is a possibility that there is a world that Oregon

612
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 3: State wins this football game, and I don't want to

613
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 3: be a part of that world.

614
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 4: Did you just threaten self harm?

615
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,919
Speaker 2: No? No, actually I did not. I'm just I'm just.

616
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 4: Saying, okay, I'm just making sure you weren't on here

617
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 4: saying I don't want to be here anymore.

618
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 2: No, No, that's not what I was saying anymore at all.

619
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Speaker 4: Checking on your people. Holiday season?

620
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:45,399
Speaker 3: All right, the college football playoff rankings came in. You

621
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 3: have where we just talked about. Washington moved up to four,

622
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 3: Oregon still at six. The next team is who Oregon

623
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,280
Speaker 3: stayed at sixteen? They fell down.

624
00:38:55,120 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 2: Five spots and Arizona is sitting at what seventeen?

625
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 4: I believe?

626
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, so, And.

627
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 3: The part that made no sense to me because you

628
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 3: had the people on television. Oh man, see, they're not

629
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 3: giving the sec the love that they normally get because

630
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 3: they normally give Bama the benefit of the doubt. And

631
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 3: I'm looking, I'm looking at this Ralphin, I'm like, what

632
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 3: are you talking about? Fam, what are you talking about?

633
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 3: The SEC has the best, well, the highest ranked two

634
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 3: loss team in Missouri who they have put in front

635
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 3: of ten and one Louisville. Granted Louisville lost a pit,

636
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,879
Speaker 3: but if that were an SEC team, there's no way

637
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 3: they would be ranked in front of that.

638
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 2: Missouri would be ranked in front of them. Not a chance.

639
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 3: They have the highest ranked three loss team in LSU

640
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 3: got their quarterback is playing real well, defense is non existent.

641
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 3: So they're higher than Arizona and Oregon State. So yeah,

642
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 3: Arizona's fifth team, Oregon State of sixteen and instead of

643
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 3: having UCLA ranked which they should be ranked, the highest

644
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 3: four loss team is Tennessee at seven and four.

645
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 2: Who got there? Who got everything?

646
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 3: Pushed in against Missouri thirty six to seven and then

647
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 3: against Georgia thirty eight to ten. And we're sitting here like, yeah, hey,

648
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 3: hey that's still the top ten team. Let's I mean

649
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 3: a top twenty five team? Absolutely not no way know

650
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 3: how make it sop.

651
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, I highest ranked undefeated, highest ranked two lost highest

652
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,800
Speaker 4: strength three lost highest strength four loss all to SEC.

653
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 4: I mean, Clemson has a win over Notre Dame, do

654
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 4: they not? Yep, and they can't even get above Tennessee.

655
00:40:56,640 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 4: It's crazy, Like I don't the the whole reputational factor

656
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 4: of the SEC keeps working overtime and manifesting itself in

657
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:12,320
Speaker 4: all these ways beyond just having the top teams in

658
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 4: the country and the potential to have two teams in

659
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 4: the playoff. Like, think about this, The overall strength of

660
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 4: schedule for the SEC is the lowest that it's been

661
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 4: since two thousand and five. It's not even close to

662
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 4: anywhere that it's been in the last ten years. Auburn

663
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 4: just lost to New Mexico State the opening. They opened

664
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 4: up one and four again in out of conference contests,

665
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 4: and I think by the end of the second week

666
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 4: they were five and seven. Like, this is not a

667
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 4: strong SEC slate. You've pointed out the fact that you

668
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 4: know that LSU has scored a lot of points and

669
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 4: given up a lot of points, and how does that

670
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 4: make them different than USC. I guess they do have

671
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 4: the win, the win over Missouri, but at the same time,

672
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:59,399
Speaker 4: like every other good team that they played, against has

673
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 4: beaten them.

674
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 2: Yep.

675
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 3: So you know there there's no difference between LSU and USC,

676
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 3: except for USC got beat down enough that they quit.

677
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:13,240
Speaker 2: That's the only difference.

678
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 3: So I don't think that the Arizona and Oregon State

679
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 3: are getting the credit that they deserve. Oregon State fell

680
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 3: fell down five spots, like make it in a twenty

681
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 3: two to twenty loss to the number four team.

682
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:30,879
Speaker 2: In the country.

683
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 3: But Tennessee only lost, only dropped down three spots after

684
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:42,800
Speaker 3: getting after losing by like by sixty points in two weeks.

685
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,439
Speaker 3: Come on, man, oh, but that was the number one

686
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:50,240
Speaker 3: and the number whatever team in the I don't understand

687
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 3: how that how that's any different than number four fam

688
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 3: But anyways, though, the College Football Playoff going College Football Playoff,

689
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 3: and we talked about a scenario where what is the

690
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 3: committee going to do if you have thirteen and OH

691
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 3: Washington thirteen and OH Ohio State thirteen and oh Florida State.

692
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 2: And then Alabama.

693
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 3: Beats oh in twelve and one Texas who beat Alabama

694
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:24,280
Speaker 3: and then twelve and one Alabama who beat Georgia.

695
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,919
Speaker 2: In the SEC Championship. Who are you putting in there?

696
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 1: What?

697
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 2: Sorry? Who's the committee putting in.

698
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 3: I think that because they're gonna be like, we can't

699
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 3: leave Georgia out.

700
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 2: They ran the table in the regular season.

701
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 4: I have already had people spend the last day and

702
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 4: a half trying to explain to me why it would

703
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 4: be okay for them to take Alabama and not Texas,

704
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 4: and that you'd have more of a likelihood of Georgia

705
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 4: being a second SEC team in if they run at

706
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 4: number one the whole time, lose drop back to four.

707
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:10,240
Speaker 4: You could have Alabama three, Georgia four, Texas five and out,

708
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 4: and Florida State thirteen and oh and out. Like I've

709
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 4: had people tell me that that's more than plausible.

710
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 3: Man, throw all of this ship in the trash. If

711
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 3: that happens, bro Bro, I promise you, I promise you

712
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 3: that if that happens, they will burn the They will

713
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 3: burn the college football playoff system down. They will burn

714
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 3: it down. Them folks from Texas not standing for that, Florida.

715
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 3: Florida State's trying to burn down the SECT. You don't

716
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 3: think they'll add another victim to the list. Well man, Anyways, though,

717
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 3: on to the next you have Oregon State and Washington State.

718
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:00,040
Speaker 3: I feel bad for these two teams. Ralph, they I

719
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 3: have no home. This is gross. And I'm not a

720
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 3: person that feel sorry for a lot of people because

721
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 3: a lot of times your your choices put you in

722
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,760
Speaker 3: the position that you're in. Like I can have empathy

723
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 3: for people without having sympathy.

724
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,720
Speaker 2: But this is a situation that it's brutal.

725
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 4: Uh.

726
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 3: They're likely headed to play a The Apple Cup is

727
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 3: going to continue, Okay. They are trying to keep Oregon

728
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 3: Oregon State by with the Mountain West scheduling, by then

729
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 3: backing Oregon out of the Boise State game and then

730
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:43,479
Speaker 3: putting Oregon State game in in one of the non

731
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,280
Speaker 3: conference games early in the season.

732
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 4: Pois State's gonna let that happen.

733
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 3: Yes, that that that's the potential after they get the

734
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:58,280
Speaker 3: scheduling thing done. And but then, but then I wonder,

735
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 3: does that turn into a by game for Oregon.

736
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 4: Then Oregon paying Oregon State. Yes, you can't do that.

737
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 4: It's already a by game. It's already a by game.

738
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 4: Judge made sure of it. Oregon's gonna leave money on

739
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,839
Speaker 4: the table that they would have had otherwise, and it's

740
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 4: gonna go right to Oregon State.

741
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:25,919
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I ain't pay y'all. Damn, I ain't paying

742
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 2: them country boys nothing. That's what I'm not doing. How

743
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 2: do you think that?

744
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 4: How do you think they're gonna put together a full schedule?

745
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 4: Are they?

746
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 2: If they don't get the Mountain West, it's it's it's yeah, Yeah,

747
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 2: they're gonna, Yes, they're they're they're gonna have to go

748
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 2: tricking for dollars right now.

749
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 4: Do you think that includes a lot of FCS scheduling

750
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 4: or how do you think they they're gonna have to

751
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,839
Speaker 4: use some of that two hundred million each to buy

752
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 4: people out of their game contracts.

753
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 3: I think that it's gonna be that they're gonna get

754
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,720
Speaker 3: added to the Mountain West Gale to their conference schedule,

755
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 3: and that that'll make up for those games.

756
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 4: But what will it count as a conference game or not? Yeah?

757
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 2: Oh, I see what you're saying.

758
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:18,919
Speaker 3: That then they're they're still only in a two team

759
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 3: conference despite the scheduling agreement. Yeah, damn, I don't think

760
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 3: they care as long as they get football games.

761
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 4: What if they have like five slots they can't fill,

762
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 4: so they're just like, all right, we're running this five

763
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:43,320
Speaker 4: straight weeks in a row of Washington stayers of Groundhog's

764
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:48,479
Speaker 4: Day Best of five, bru that.

765
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 2: Would be atrocious.

766
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:54,240
Speaker 3: And then Washington State with Dake dickerd they sound so pitiful.

767
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,439
Speaker 3: We played the clip last week from or two weeks

768
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,720
Speaker 3: ago from it and that they just sound.

769
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 2: So pittf for Ralph, they're like woe is us? And

770
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 2: you know.

771
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:11,800
Speaker 3: That based upon them having no TV, Like they literally

772
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 3: have no TV contract. So that means that their games

773
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 3: are slated to play nowhere.

774
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying.

775
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 3: Right that they will have It's if a tree falls

776
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 3: in the forest, like we're gonna be seeing grainy video

777
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 3: that's no different than like when like Utah Tech plays.

778
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 4: You know, well, if that's the case, I'm just telling

779
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 4: people I won.

780
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 3: So what's gonna happen to the roster? Because that's the

781
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 3: next thing is that that we're in recruiting season.

782
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 2: We are a week in. How many days are we away?

783
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:56,919
Speaker 3: We are seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, like twelve days

784
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:58,800
Speaker 3: away from the transfer portal opening.

785
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 4: That is going to be one of the wildest days

786
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 4: in college football history.

787
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, bruh, it is going to go crazy.

788
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 3: Mike Elko came out and like, yo, yo, you better

789
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 3: have a strategy to keep your kids, just telling you

790
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 3: otherwise they gon't. They belong to the streets. Oh kind

791
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:28,720
Speaker 3: of like your coaches. Oh okay, okay, So I feel

792
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 3: no sympathy. I feel sympathy for the fans because I

793
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 3: know it's frustrated with players come and leave and all

794
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 3: that stuff. I feel no sympathy for these coaches, though

795
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 3: they pick up and leave whenever they want to.

796
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:46,240
Speaker 4: They started this, yes, they started it, but they also

797
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 4: so many of them continue to agree with the NCAA

798
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 4: stance on amateurism while not having any problem whatsoever with

799
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,840
Speaker 4: their slice of the pie growing exponentially year.

800
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 2: Over year yep, and taking a billion dollars on the

801
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:02,919
Speaker 2: way out.

802
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 4: In nineteen ninety I want to say seven, there was

803
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 4: one coach making seven figures. Spreer, Steve Sprer that's it.

804
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 4: He was the first seven figure coach, and it happened

805
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:25,319
Speaker 4: in the late nineties. The trajectory that we were on

806
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 4: from nineteen ninety seven to twenty seventeen, if it continues

807
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 4: to twenty thirty seven, then the highest paid coaches are

808
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 4: going to be making fifty million a year. That's the

809
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 4: trajector we were on in forty years, going from one

810
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:47,320
Speaker 4: seven figure coach to the highest paid coaches making fifty million.

811
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 2: Jeez, bro, that is insane. Insane. Coaches make brothers, no

812
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 2: way they can be.

813
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 4: Kicking Tuck, the head coach of Kentucky already makes over

814
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 4: eight Kentucky football. Like, what that's gonna be. That's gonna

815
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 4: be the salary of your of your like Boise states

816
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 4: yea in fifteen sixteen years back, and I'm gonna shut

817
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:23,760
Speaker 4: this show down right now, go to a coaching clinic.

818
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:28,840
Speaker 3: Hey, bro, don't don't think I haven't thought about it,

819
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 3: because I've had opportunities, but I don't want to, you know,

820
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 3: have my family all jacked up and and everything. But

821
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 3: but h when the but when the next set of

822
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 3: kids get out of high school in five years and

823
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:48,399
Speaker 3: it's just me, niece and Roman, Yeah, h we might

824
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 3: be on that train, Buddy, might be on that train.

825
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 4: We might want to slow down on some of the

826
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 4: stuff we're saying out loud about some of these coaches

827
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 4: right now.

828
00:51:56,640 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 3: Then, hey, listen, listen, truth, truth sometimes, man, and we

829
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:06,240
Speaker 3: don't attack the people. Lincoln Riley's probably gonna feel attacked

830
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:07,800
Speaker 3: on the YouTube.

831
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 2: Do you think he's gonna let us in.

832
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 4: The building Nope, I don't think so. He doesn't even

833
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:16,280
Speaker 4: let student reporters in the building when they write puff

834
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,319
Speaker 4: pieces about his own players.

835
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:19,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's not unfair, though.

836
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 3: It is anything that we've said about people, where I've

837
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 3: said about anybody hyperbolic or or untrue or unfair.

838
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 4: No. No, we're also not the type of people just

839
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 4: to be out here calling people soft, even though the

840
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 4: closest that we're probably gonna get to ever calling anybody

841
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:44,720
Speaker 4: soft will be today.

842
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 3: But I think there's a line that said he's generationally soft,

843
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,720
Speaker 3: with uh, generationally soft.

844
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 4: He is generationally soft, man.

845
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:03,840
Speaker 2: So I was to Caleb Williams. Yeah, generating.

846
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 4: He's very good at what he does. He deserves his money,

847
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 4: he deserves his praise. But man, he is he is

848
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:21,319
Speaker 4: absurdly like I can't even say, thin skin, like afraid

849
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:25,319
Speaker 4: of his own thinness of skin. Does that make sense?

850
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 2: Yes, I understood.

851
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 4: He doesn't even want to be in a situation to

852
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 4: have thin skin. Yep, that's what we call afraid of

853
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 4: your own shadow.

854
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:38,439
Speaker 3: All right, So so quickly though, before we get into

855
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 3: the games, USC went seven and five, Bro seven and five. Actually,

856
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:49,880
Speaker 3: let's just start with the games there USC played Ucla lost.

857
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:52,800
Speaker 2: Thirty eight to ten Ralph thirty twenty.

858
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:53,799
Speaker 4: Let's give um.

859
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 3: Damn that would have been at listen, that game could

860
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 3: have been thirty eight to twenty if UCLA's offense had

861
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 3: gotten anything going after they went up fourteen zero, because

862
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 3: they had two or three possessions after that where they

863
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 3: were both times I think and you see in you

864
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 3: cla usc territory did not score. So yeah, this was atrocious.

865
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 3: Caleb Williams three hundred and eighty four yards passing, including

866
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 3: one amazing throw which he flashes every single game, touchdown,

867
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:34,319
Speaker 3: a nasty pick, and he lost a oh he did

868
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 3: not lose a fumble, but uh yeah, and he did

869
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:40,839
Speaker 3: not fumble. But yeah, thirty eight to twenty Ralph. This

870
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 3: team quit. They came with so yes, when they were

871
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 3: down fourteen to oh they quit. It was that the

872
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 3: only reason why they got back into the game at

873
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 3: at fourteen ten at halftime was because UCLA was in

874
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 3: ept on offense and kept dropping balls and having.

875
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 2: Penalties and just couldn't run up the score. That was

876
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 2: the only reason.

877
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 4: At that point. There's nothing like us. He's not playing

878
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 4: for anything. I don't understand why they didn't just run

879
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 4: a final play. I also definitely don't understand why they

880
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 4: down twenty eight to ten, why they kicked a field

881
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 4: goal thinking they were going to score fifteen when they

882
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 4: hadn't done anything since the drive that led into the

883
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 4: second quarter. Can we at least can we at least

884
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 4: give Caleb Williams some praise. That seventy four yard touchdown

885
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 4: past to Brennan Rice was one of the sickest throws

886
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 4: catches I've seen all year, regardless of Broa.

887
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 2: That was incredible.

888
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 3: He was on the other hash almost threw the ball

889
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 3: off of one leg for a dime outside the numbers

890
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:55,760
Speaker 3: on the other one, hit him right right and stride

891
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:58,959
Speaker 3: yank and then Brennan Rice.

892
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 4: It was one of those moments where he realized just

893
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:06,320
Speaker 4: how big Brandon Rice is. That like the defender tried

894
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 4: to tackle him and just slid off. Have anything about it.

895
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 2: He tried to tackle him prior to the ball getting there.

896
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 4: And if you just have to ask yourself, like, man,

897
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 4: if they could do this, why are they getting destroyed?

898
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 4: Like why has the offense he.

899
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:25,439
Speaker 2: Also had to run around for six seconds to let's

900
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 2: allow that to happen.

901
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,239
Speaker 4: You know what's crazy is he has been sacked in

902
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 4: the last two years, I think sixty three times. Who

903
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 4: Caleb Williams. Damn. I was under the impression this dude

904
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 4: never got touched and it was mostly because of him,

905
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:45,360
Speaker 4: the way that he moves around in the pocket. He's

906
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 4: sixty three times in the last two seasons.

907
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 2: Yep.

908
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,280
Speaker 3: And now some of that is his fault for holding

909
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:56,799
Speaker 3: onto the ball a little bit. But this offensive line

910
00:56:56,800 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 3: has been leaky. Dude, I don't even I So you

911
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 3: have Caleb Williams. How is what? What is the trajectory

912
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 3: of USC right right now? Because Miller Moss, no matter

913
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 3: how good he is for next year, or Malachi Nelson,

914
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 3: no matter how good he is next year, or whoever

915
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 3: you get out of the portal, however he good, good

916
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 3: he is next year won't be.

917
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 2: As good as Caleb Williams.

918
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 4: No, they will not. So at that quarterback. I don't

919
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 4: know if that quarterback exists in college football right now.

920
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 4: I with with both skill sets, kid out of Liberty

921
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 4: is pretty damn good.

922
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 2: But like, yes, I wouldn't mind him in Eugene.

923
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 4: Start the bidding war now. But like I, I I

924
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 4: don't know. But there's there is no Caleb there's no Caleb.

925
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 4: There's nobody that throws like him, there's nobody that runs

926
00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 4: like him, and he does both. So you're you are

927
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 4: right about that. They they get these good offensive linemen,

928
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 4: they get the higher rated offensive linemen on the on

929
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 4: the West Coast and split them with Oregon or whatever.

930
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 4: But they get these highly rated offensive line.

931
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 2: They haven't been a raid system. They haven't been getting

932
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 2: the highest rated recruits on the West Coast either.

933
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 4: They got a couple of four stars in there, but

934
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 4: then they run put them in this air raid system

935
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 4: that doesn't develop their their talent level. We've heard NFL scouts,

936
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 4: NFL coaches talk about the fact that the teams that

937
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 4: are out here running an air raid like these old

938
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:39,440
Speaker 4: linemen have to be re taught yep, when they when

939
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 4: they get to the NFL level, and so you know,

940
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 4: you you you were. At some point the receivers are

941
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 4: going to realize that we can't get seven, four and

942
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 4: five stars on the field at the same time. So

943
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 4: like way, if you're a guy like Dorian Singer and

944
00:58:54,800 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 4: you come over from Arizona, your production is gonna get uh,

945
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 4: it's gonna shrink exponentially. Right, You're going to see that

946
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 4: they're not really getting the ball to tight Ends. They

947
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 4: don't really hand the ball off in the way that

948
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 4: they should have getting Marshaun Lloyd over from South Carolina.

949
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 4: There's a lot of truths that are getting told right

950
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 4: now in this process that maybe La, maybe the quick

951
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 4: money is not the best thing for you.

952
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 3: Well if that's the other thing is that according to

953
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 3: their boards and everything, their nil money is not where

954
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 3: other people think it is. And then you so so like,

955
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 3: here is the issue with their recruiting. First of all,

956
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 3: they got a six seven, two forty five tight End

957
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 3: out of Georgia, who's a high four star kid.

958
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 2: He is committed.

959
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 3: What what the hell you gonna do with a big

960
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 3: tight end? First of all in this air raid system.

961
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 3: First thing, I don't.

962
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 2: Even understand why kids at tight End even want to

963
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 2: come to USC But I'm well into any air raid really,

964
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 2: you forget you might get.

965
00:59:57,800 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 4: Some numbers, but you're also going to go into the

966
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 4: NFL not being ready to.

967
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 2: Do to play tight end. Yep.

968
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 4: Yeah.

969
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 3: And you have Cameron Fountain who has been rumored to

970
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 3: so they have one edge player committed. He is projected

971
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 3: to flip. Cameron Fountain he's a number eighty five in

972
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 3: the country according to two four seven. Then they have

973
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 3: a linebacker committed out of Connecticut, and they have one

974
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 3: other d lineman committed who's six three three zero five

975
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 3: out of Pennsylvania. And that is the extent of their

976
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 3: big person recruiting. And one edge player, one defensive like

977
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 3: tackle kid and the edge players rumored to flip, and

978
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 3: a linebacker. That is all they have committed on the

979
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:50,439
Speaker 3: defensive side.

980
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 4: ROPA. That's it because they think that they're going to

981
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 4: be able to depend on what they've done the last

982
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 4: couple of years, going out and getting Solomon at of Wyoming,

983
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 4: getting key on Bars at Arizona. They like, they think

984
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 4: they're just gonna be able to do that every time,

985
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 4: and maybe they're right. Maybe they're right. I don't know.

986
01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 3: Well, last year in their in their class, they have

987
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 3: one edge player, one linebacker, one defensive lineman, two defensive linemen,

988
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 3: two edge players in the entire class.

989
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 2: That's it. That's it.

990
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 4: I don't know that. So the way that they recruit

991
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 4: defensively might change based on the coordinator that they bring in.

992
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 4: They trying to have a national approach like their Stanford

993
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:40,480
Speaker 4: or Notre dame or something that is not something that

994
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 4: the California high school coaches have enjoyed all that much.

995
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:46,440
Speaker 4: I noticed on the message boards and on on in

996
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 4: Twitter spaces and things like that. To a certain extent,

997
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 4: USC has allowed a level of arrogance that other teams

998
01:01:57,040 --> 01:02:01,919
Speaker 4: are not when things are working. Because when when things

999
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:04,640
Speaker 4: are working, like if if if USC was eleven and

1000
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 4: one right now and the din't lose for their last

1001
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 4: five games of the season, if they're eleven and one,

1002
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 4: they can say boohoo to a high school coach. That

1003
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:16,240
Speaker 4: high school coach is best player is still going to

1004
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:20,000
Speaker 4: commit to USC. The best, the three best Polynesian kids

1005
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 4: in America are still going to commit to USC. The

1006
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:26,800
Speaker 4: best transfer prospects are still going to consider. You know,

1007
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 4: USC if they're winning. If they're winning, then they have

1008
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 4: the ability to write everybody off and say that you

1009
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 4: have to exist on my level. Yeah, they have that ability.

1010
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 4: Seven and five they don't, especially after a bunch of

1011
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 4: years of Clay Helton kind of trying to bend over

1012
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 4: backwards to satisfy a lot of those criticisms. You know,

1013
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:51,640
Speaker 4: they wanted Lincoln Riley to come in. Stop listening to

1014
01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:54,080
Speaker 4: a bunch of outside voices and just bring back the swagger.

1015
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 4: But when the outside voices were all unified in telling

1016
01:02:57,400 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 4: you that your defensive coordinator is going to waste a

1017
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:05,040
Speaker 4: generational quarterbacks senior their final season in college football, and

1018
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 4: you end up letting him go and admitting that he's right.

1019
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 4: In the same way that Mike Tomlin had to had

1020
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:11,919
Speaker 4: to listen to people ask him if he was gonna

1021
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 4: fire Matt Canada for ten weeks in a row, and

1022
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 4: then it stings. It stings to go out and do

1023
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:20,640
Speaker 4: the thing that the people that you are telling every

1024
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 4: single week they don't know what they're talking about. They

1025
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 4: when when you finally are the last one to the

1026
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 4: party on those issues, it's very very humbling. Yeah uh so,

1027
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:34,440
Speaker 4: you know, it'll be interesting to see if Lincoln Riley's

1028
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 4: approach changes. But they they got to build. They gotta build.

1029
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 4: They can't just collect. Like the same message goes out

1030
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 4: to Dion Sanders. You have to be able to build,

1031
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 4: like with somebody, please go talk to Jetfish for the

1032
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:49,440
Speaker 4: love of God, go talk to the man. And you

1033
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:50,720
Speaker 4: have to build.

1034
01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:55,120
Speaker 3: You have, especially when you're headed into the Big ten.

1035
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 3: But listen, they will they will get the message at

1036
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:06,680
Speaker 3: some point point in time. Are you surprised about well, actually,

1037
01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:09,720
Speaker 3: let's go to u c l A. How is your

1038
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:13,440
Speaker 3: what what are your thoughts about them and their future

1039
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 3: after you saw this game, knowing that their coaches back,

1040
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:22,120
Speaker 3: but they're the guy that's supposed to be the future

1041
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:25,360
Speaker 3: at quarterback may be on the way out transferring.

1042
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:28,760
Speaker 4: I think they'll survive that one. That one won't be.

1043
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:33,919
Speaker 4: I think the the biggest effect of losing Dante more

1044
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:37,560
Speaker 4: off your roster, which is the worst kept secret in

1045
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 4: the world, that he's gone, the is gonna be will

1046
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 4: another five star considered coming in? And that that remains

1047
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:53,320
Speaker 4: to be seen? Right? That was kind of dumb luck

1048
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 4: for u c l A anyway, because Kenny Dillingham had

1049
01:04:56,320 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 4: left to take the Arizona State job, which what caused

1050
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:05,640
Speaker 4: Dante Moore to leave his commitment to the Ducks and

1051
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 4: go to UCLA. Ethan Garber's is a transfer quarterback. They

1052
01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:17,600
Speaker 4: took in Colin Schlee as a transfer quarterback. It doesn't

1053
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:21,040
Speaker 4: seem to me like Chip Kelly is interested in going

1054
01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:25,880
Speaker 4: the freshman route unless it's somebody who is an absolute

1055
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 4: potential game changer like Dantae Morre and I don't know

1056
01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 4: if anybody likes them like that. So, you know, I

1057
01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:35,480
Speaker 4: don't think that Dante mor Thing is gonna hurt that

1058
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 4: bad because it's not like he was the one that

1059
01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 4: propelled them to the level of success that they had

1060
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:43,880
Speaker 4: this year. And I also don't think the losses that

1061
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:49,160
Speaker 4: they took were necessarily his fault. What is gonna be

1062
01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:54,920
Speaker 4: what is going to be interesting is if it becomes

1063
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:59,080
Speaker 4: abundantly clear going into next year. Let's say Ethan Garber

1064
01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:02,760
Speaker 4: stays and he leads them into Big ten competition. What's

1065
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:04,880
Speaker 4: gonna be abundantly clear is if they open up like

1066
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 4: one and four or something and Martin Jarman ruined his

1067
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:13,840
Speaker 4: opportunity and any good will that was given to him

1068
01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:16,240
Speaker 4: based on Brune Report online floating that he was gonna

1069
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:21,560
Speaker 4: fire Chip Kelly to get this process done immediately. Yeah,

1070
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:25,240
Speaker 4: maybe this isn't a coaching Maybe it is all Wasserman saying, like,

1071
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:28,360
Speaker 4: you know, I'm not gonna support you making that change.

1072
01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:31,520
Speaker 4: Maybe it's being driven at the highest level by one

1073
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:35,240
Speaker 4: of the top boosters. But UCLA hasn't really done anything

1074
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 4: to justify Chip Kelly getting reinvested in. Yeah, so it

1075
01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 4: feels like what, We're just crossing our fingers and hoping

1076
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 4: he'll be good in the big ten.

1077
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:49,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean, but they have gotten the defense fixed.

1078
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 3: So that is that is half the battle, buddy, That

1079
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:57,040
Speaker 3: is absolutely half to battle. Now on to the next

1080
01:06:57,120 --> 01:07:03,200
Speaker 3: game that we had this weekend, Washington, Oregon State twenty

1081
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:07,240
Speaker 3: two to twenty. The Beavers had every opportunity to win

1082
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:09,840
Speaker 3: this game, Ralph, every opportunity to win this game. The

1083
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:12,240
Speaker 3: weather was a great factor, so they couldn't throw it

1084
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:14,880
Speaker 3: at the level that they wanted to that Washington wanted

1085
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:18,920
Speaker 3: to throw it. They had every opportunity. Martinez kept getting

1086
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:24,440
Speaker 3: tripped up at the last tackler. You had a couple

1087
01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:28,760
Speaker 3: of misthrows, a couple of miss catches, oh man, a

1088
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:30,240
Speaker 3: dropped interception.

1089
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:32,720
Speaker 2: They had opportunities and they blew it.

1090
01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:37,520
Speaker 4: Do you think Washington fans just like slept puckered up?

1091
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:44,400
Speaker 2: They better had like I.

1092
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:46,080
Speaker 4: Can you imagine being a Washington fan.

1093
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:48,400
Speaker 2: I don't want to live under that kind of stress.

1094
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:52,640
Speaker 4: Living through that second half, living through that second half,

1095
01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:56,440
Speaker 4: and then just having to go to bed. You can't go.

1096
01:07:56,480 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 3: Straight to sleep unless you drink yourself to sleep during

1097
01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:04,919
Speaker 3: during that was yourself where you smoked yourself to sleep.

1098
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:05,760
Speaker 3: That's the only.

1099
01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:09,560
Speaker 4: Way they're living that Kansas City Chiefs life. Just let's see,

1100
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:12,160
Speaker 4: let's see what happens if we don't score in the

1101
01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:18,280
Speaker 4: second half. I liked some of your takeaways from this game.

1102
01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:23,280
Speaker 4: I think this receiving core is We're gonna be thinking

1103
01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:26,880
Speaker 4: about it for a long time, Like how did they

1104
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:29,960
Speaker 4: get all that talent in the building at the same

1105
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:34,120
Speaker 4: time with that quarterback like this, this is a legendary,

1106
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:41,120
Speaker 4: legendary offense. And then yeah, like I said, their pass

1107
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:45,200
Speaker 4: rush is starting to figure things out the last couple

1108
01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 4: of weeks.

1109
01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:51,559
Speaker 3: They still don't get a ton of like they feel

1110
01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:54,080
Speaker 3: like a timely defense. Not a good defense.

1111
01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:59,799
Speaker 4: M Yeah, I'll agree with that. They're not a good defense.

1112
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 4: I mean, by any measurement, by any metric, they're not

1113
01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:04,479
Speaker 4: a good defense. The only way that you could say

1114
01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:05,960
Speaker 4: that they have a good defense is if you have

1115
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:12,840
Speaker 4: that Mike D'Antoni mentality of the team that's defense exactly,

1116
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:16,479
Speaker 4: Like that's the only way that you can that you

1117
01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:22,519
Speaker 4: can say that this Washington defense is good. They're barely average.

1118
01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:26,240
Speaker 4: Where where I consistently worry about them is you know,

1119
01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:29,080
Speaker 4: if they're not able to get quarterback pressures. You're talking

1120
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:33,840
Speaker 4: about going up against Oregon again, a team that has

1121
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:40,000
Speaker 4: allowed less pressures than anyone yep so, and it just

1122
01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:42,760
Speaker 4: makes me think because the team, the other team that's

1123
01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:45,000
Speaker 4: so incredible at just getting the ball out Michael Pennix

1124
01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:50,960
Speaker 4: never takes sex. Ever. I imagine that practices are pretty

1125
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:55,120
Speaker 4: difficult on that defense because they you know, they they

1126
01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:59,200
Speaker 4: aren't getting home in pass rush anyway, and Washington plays

1127
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 4: in a way that they don't let you even get

1128
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:04,320
Speaker 4: to the quarterback. So it's not like you're even experiencing

1129
01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:12,559
Speaker 4: success Tuesday through Tuesday through uh Friday in practice. I think,

1130
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:16,559
Speaker 4: I don't know. I think that if you're an Oregon

1131
01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:19,360
Speaker 4: State fan, you got to be kind of frustrated because

1132
01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 4: the opportunities were there, But you do have to admit

1133
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:28,320
Speaker 4: that you are. You are a little bit behind. Your

1134
01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:32,400
Speaker 4: deficiencies have been pretty clear all year. I do. I

1135
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:34,759
Speaker 4: would like to hear from some more Oregon State fans

1136
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:37,760
Speaker 4: about how they feel going in next year with DJU.

1137
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:41,360
Speaker 4: Are you comfortable to just have this DJU aiden Chiles

1138
01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:42,760
Speaker 4: combo platter.

1139
01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:46,800
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, because that won't work for next year.

1140
01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:51,200
Speaker 3: I'm telling you. On on either side because Aiden's gonna

1141
01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:54,880
Speaker 3: demand more reps and DJ is not gonna want to

1142
01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:57,439
Speaker 3: give up reps. So so some something got to give

1143
01:10:57,439 --> 01:10:58,200
Speaker 3: in that situation.

1144
01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:00,559
Speaker 4: So what's the answer is that Aiden I was finding

1145
01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:01,320
Speaker 4: a new home.

1146
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:09,639
Speaker 3: Wherever. Yeah, him finding a new home wherever Josh Jonathan

1147
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:10,880
Speaker 3: Smith is next year.

1148
01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:16,000
Speaker 4: That'd be imagine Jonathan Smith walking into a room with

1149
01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:19,640
Speaker 4: Eiden Child's and DJ and be like, hey, you know,

1150
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:23,120
Speaker 4: I couldn't pass up this opportunity. DJ. It has been

1151
01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:27,200
Speaker 4: a pleasure to be your coach. Eight and your bags

1152
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:30,520
Speaker 4: are in the car.

1153
01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:35,320
Speaker 3: A game that we were disappointed was on Pack twelve

1154
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:39,960
Speaker 3: network actually was perfect that it was on Pack twelve network.

1155
01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:45,280
Speaker 3: Arizona Well, Utah at Arizona forty two to eighteen Ralph.

1156
01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:49,320
Speaker 3: It was twenty eight to seven at halftime, and at

1157
01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 3: that point in time, I don't even think Utah had

1158
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:55,800
Speaker 3: turned the ball over yet. They just beat them up

1159
01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:59,920
Speaker 3: and down the field. Now, are you ready to admit

1160
01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:02,639
Speaker 3: what what what I told you about?

1161
01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:03,919
Speaker 2: Noah? Noah Fafida.

1162
01:12:06,160 --> 01:12:08,000
Speaker 4: You asked me that every week and I say yes

1163
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:10,679
Speaker 4: every week, and I'm starting to feel like your short

1164
01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:17,400
Speaker 4: memory is intentional. I'm living groundhog Day. Of Mia Copa's

1165
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:20,800
Speaker 4: on this And for anybody who just started listening, I

1166
01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:22,439
Speaker 4: don't know how many people we have just jumping in

1167
01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:25,680
Speaker 4: mid season if you just started listening to Peck twelve apostles.

1168
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:28,280
Speaker 4: I don't hate Noah fa Fida. I've always thought he

1169
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:32,320
Speaker 4: was the better quarterback. I just am of the mind

1170
01:12:33,040 --> 01:12:35,800
Speaker 4: that losing your job due to injury is still some

1171
01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:39,879
Speaker 4: type of taboo that some coaches adhere to, and Jedfish

1172
01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 4: kept pretending like that was the type of person that

1173
01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:43,679
Speaker 4: he was due.

1174
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:46,240
Speaker 2: It was gonna be a mutiny if he started Jayden

1175
01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:46,920
Speaker 2: Delora again.

1176
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:50,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I you know, and Jayden DeLaura is not

1177
01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:53,840
Speaker 4: a terrible quarterback. He's just not an over prone and

1178
01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:56,439
Speaker 4: Noah faa has eliminated a lot of those mistakes. And

1179
01:12:56,479 --> 01:12:59,360
Speaker 4: he's playing with his high school teammate team AX, several

1180
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:04,200
Speaker 4: of his high school teammates actually, and uh yeah, I

1181
01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:07,479
Speaker 4: mean it's just a it's it's it's a good it's

1182
01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:11,280
Speaker 4: a good mix. It didn't help in this game that,

1183
01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:15,120
Speaker 4: like right before kickoff they were like, hey, Cole Bishop

1184
01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:17,760
Speaker 4: and basically every Utah defenders.

1185
01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:20,760
Speaker 2: Is not tacklers.

1186
01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:25,240
Speaker 4: Second, yeah, I tweeted immediately, I was like, oh, God, hit,

1187
01:13:25,439 --> 01:13:27,080
Speaker 4: you might want to put the rent on the over

1188
01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:29,320
Speaker 4: in this game, which almost didn't hit by the way,

1189
01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:35,439
Speaker 4: made me a little nervous. But uh yeah, So what

1190
01:13:35,439 --> 01:13:39,400
Speaker 4: what I didn't love about this game is uh that

1191
01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:44,040
Speaker 4: Utah actually let the circumstance dictate their offensive game plan.

1192
01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:47,200
Speaker 4: So they let the fact that they got down fourteen

1193
01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:48,160
Speaker 4: to nothing right away.

1194
01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:50,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, because they threw the ball fifty three times with

1195
01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:53,320
Speaker 2: bright down that is not a winning strategy.

1196
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:56,880
Speaker 4: I wouldn't have thrown the ball once. I would have

1197
01:13:56,880 --> 01:14:01,640
Speaker 4: been playing defense with my offense, bro, you know, and

1198
01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:09,720
Speaker 4: so I I this was a shocking inability to adjust

1199
01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:14,679
Speaker 4: Ah or be patient, I guess by by Utah staff

1200
01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:17,559
Speaker 4: that blew me away. I did not like the the

1201
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:19,479
Speaker 4: they might wait to strategy in this game.

1202
01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:22,240
Speaker 2: They might need to reevaluate their strength and conditioning program

1203
01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:25,040
Speaker 2: because they've been having a lot of injuries bro over

1204
01:14:25,080 --> 01:14:26,840
Speaker 2: the last couple of seasons.

1205
01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:29,920
Speaker 4: Maybe they they run out of gas at the end

1206
01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:31,760
Speaker 4: of the season. I remember when Michael Bernard was having

1207
01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:34,759
Speaker 4: to play running back and corner company.

1208
01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:37,720
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying is too, it's there's something that

1209
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:42,520
Speaker 3: ain't matching in these scenarios. But shout out to Arizona,

1210
01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:46,240
Speaker 3: shout out to Jed Fish, who we've talked about already.

1211
01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:50,559
Speaker 3: I think that no matter what happens in the Territorial Cup,

1212
01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:51,880
Speaker 3: he's the coach of the year.

1213
01:14:54,360 --> 01:15:00,160
Speaker 4: I agree with you, it is. It is fascinating the

1214
01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:02,960
Speaker 4: amount of people that I would not think would be

1215
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:09,040
Speaker 4: on board with Jetfish, just random fans you know of Michigan,

1216
01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:11,559
Speaker 4: State of Texas, A and M that would actually be

1217
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:13,000
Speaker 4: on board with bringing him on.

1218
01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:15,519
Speaker 2: Yep.

1219
01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:20,080
Speaker 4: Now on to.

1220
01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:26,400
Speaker 3: Cal Stanford. I'm gonna be honest, Ralph, I did not

1221
01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:27,160
Speaker 3: watch this game.

1222
01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:33,320
Speaker 4: Uh. This is the first game of the entire season

1223
01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:38,880
Speaker 4: that I also did not watch. First one. This is

1224
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:43,479
Speaker 4: the first one I missed probably eight nine games last year.

1225
01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:45,320
Speaker 4: I had a one week where I just didn't even

1226
01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:49,280
Speaker 4: record anything. But for the most part, I try to

1227
01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:54,120
Speaker 4: consume all of them. This game was to keep col

1228
01:15:54,280 --> 01:16:02,000
Speaker 4: Bull hopes alive. Correct It was last ever broadcast by

1229
01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:05,920
Speaker 4: the PAC twelve network. If I'm not mistaken, I think

1230
01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:10,160
Speaker 4: it was their last game ever. Okay, so I recorded it,

1231
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:15,280
Speaker 4: didn't watch it, watched some highlights afterward. I continue to

1232
01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:17,439
Speaker 4: be a Fernando Mendoza fan. You know what would break

1233
01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:21,000
Speaker 4: my heart. I like you if if he went into

1234
01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:28,280
Speaker 4: the portal, that would suck so bad. Yeah, because I

1235
01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:33,640
Speaker 4: I kind of feel like he's a product of the

1236
01:16:35,200 --> 01:16:38,559
Speaker 4: m of Jake Spabitol a little bit. He I mean

1237
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:41,439
Speaker 4: he's good, right, but I kind of feel like he's

1238
01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:44,160
Speaker 4: a little bit of a product of Jake Spabitol. He

1239
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:46,360
Speaker 4: still got a lot to learn. He had a cool

1240
01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:49,439
Speaker 4: interview this week with Yogi Roth. We heard the stories

1241
01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:52,040
Speaker 4: of him walking around to the tailgates and introducing himself.

1242
01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:56,400
Speaker 4: I just and he, I mean, he already had the

1243
01:16:56,400 --> 01:17:01,360
Speaker 4: opportunity to leave cal and didn't. I it would it

1244
01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:05,240
Speaker 4: would It would bum me out so bad, so bad

1245
01:17:05,680 --> 01:17:09,800
Speaker 4: if if if he was somebody that looked uh to

1246
01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:11,320
Speaker 4: make the jump, because I mean, you got, you got.

1247
01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:15,599
Speaker 4: He's playing like twenty five hundred miles from home. Yeah,

1248
01:17:16,280 --> 01:17:20,720
Speaker 4: like he's from Miami. Yeah, so you know this is.

1249
01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:23,879
Speaker 2: Think he's looking for a quarterback.

1250
01:17:24,680 --> 01:17:26,760
Speaker 4: Well he's gonna he's gonna be making some a sec

1251
01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:29,919
Speaker 4: trips this year. Maybe he knew, maybe he had the foresight,

1252
01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:31,960
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be playing closer to home.

1253
01:17:32,360 --> 01:17:35,200
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, y'all ain't gonna recruit me, Okay, cool?

1254
01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:40,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, Col's headquarters are in Charlotte now. But yeah, I

1255
01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:43,960
Speaker 4: I don't know. I I just I really like Fernando Mendoza.

1256
01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:48,479
Speaker 4: I I hope that he sticks it out. Do you

1257
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:57,160
Speaker 4: think there's any whispers or anything at all about the

1258
01:17:57,240 --> 01:18:01,439
Speaker 4: possibility of five and seven meaning the end of the

1259
01:18:01,479 --> 01:18:06,200
Speaker 4: Willcox era? Do you even think it's financially No?

1260
01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:11,639
Speaker 2: No, no, I think they give him another shot. I do.

1261
01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:18,519
Speaker 3: I don't know if there's another solution financially, because they

1262
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:23,400
Speaker 3: got to keep making the right financial decisions.

1263
01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:31,479
Speaker 4: Do you think that this could end up being like

1264
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:33,280
Speaker 4: a Northwestern situation.

1265
01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:40,320
Speaker 2: Oh, where the backup where like you end up with

1266
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:42,000
Speaker 2: Peter Sermon as the coach or something.

1267
01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:47,519
Speaker 4: No, not necessarily that, more like before, like it would

1268
01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:49,840
Speaker 4: take a it would take a hazing scandal to get

1269
01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:52,920
Speaker 4: Wilcox out. They'll be fine with five and seven three

1270
01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:54,840
Speaker 4: years in a row if you throw one to nine

1271
01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:55,759
Speaker 4: and four.

1272
01:18:56,720 --> 01:18:57,759
Speaker 2: Oh, I see what you're saying.

1273
01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:04,400
Speaker 3: Yes, because it feels feels like they're in survival mode

1274
01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:08,439
Speaker 3: right now. They're getting subsidized partially by U C l A.

1275
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:11,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1276
01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:13,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think at some point in time they will

1277
01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:17,160
Speaker 3: want to go back and win after their money gets right.

1278
01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:29,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I what about what could we see jadeen aught

1279
01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:34,720
Speaker 4: test the waters.

1280
01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:37,639
Speaker 2: I would not be surprised at that.

1281
01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:39,679
Speaker 4: I wouldn't.

1282
01:19:39,880 --> 01:19:44,880
Speaker 3: I would not mind seeing Jade not in Eugene.

1283
01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:48,360
Speaker 4: You wouldn't mind a good player playing for the college?

1284
01:19:48,360 --> 01:19:52,000
Speaker 2: You would to No way, No, No, I wouldn't. Yeah,

1285
01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:54,400
Speaker 2: I would not. Yeah, that wouldn't bother me at all.

1286
01:19:54,600 --> 01:19:55,479
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you.

1287
01:19:55,479 --> 01:19:57,799
Speaker 4: It wouldn't bother you for your life to improve.

1288
01:19:58,360 --> 01:20:02,479
Speaker 2: No, that's easy. Yeah, hey man, it's funny. It's funny

1289
01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:03,719
Speaker 2: how that works. Funny.

1290
01:20:04,160 --> 01:20:06,280
Speaker 4: But I do I do wonder because we did see

1291
01:20:06,280 --> 01:20:08,400
Speaker 4: a lot of people hop into the porter from portal

1292
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:11,840
Speaker 4: from cal last year. You know, they were obviously very

1293
01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:16,720
Speaker 4: dissatisfied with something that was happening up there. Correct, And

1294
01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:19,000
Speaker 4: we've seen some of those go on. You know, I

1295
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:22,040
Speaker 4: think Ben Coleman shocked a lot of people jumping into

1296
01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:28,200
Speaker 4: the portal. I think that uh Jack Plumber being the

1297
01:20:28,280 --> 01:20:31,080
Speaker 4: quarterback of a ten and one team right now is

1298
01:20:31,120 --> 01:20:34,360
Speaker 4: not something that a lot of people saw coming, you know.

1299
01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:37,360
Speaker 2: No, of course not. They were like, oh he was,

1300
01:20:38,040 --> 01:20:41,280
Speaker 2: but he got beat to hell last year, so what

1301
01:20:41,360 --> 01:20:43,840
Speaker 2: could what more could you have expected out of him?

1302
01:20:44,479 --> 01:20:45,000
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1303
01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:50,360
Speaker 3: I mean he's essentially having doing what Sam Howell is

1304
01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:52,240
Speaker 3: doing for the Washington Commanders right now.

1305
01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:55,679
Speaker 2: He's take taking a beat and being all right, do.

1306
01:20:55,640 --> 01:20:59,559
Speaker 4: You have any any thoughts at all on Troy Taylor?

1307
01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:05,480
Speaker 2: I am unsure.

1308
01:21:07,960 --> 01:21:13,120
Speaker 3: I believe that he's clearly a competent coach who could

1309
01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:15,600
Speaker 3: get a team to going in the right direction. He

1310
01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:19,519
Speaker 3: can get people to believe like he's got some real

1311
01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:24,439
Speaker 3: coaching in tangibles. Problem is getting the talent that you

1312
01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:30,320
Speaker 3: need into Stanford and retaining your players and also getting

1313
01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:33,559
Speaker 3: players out of the portal to plug holes and keeping

1314
01:21:33,560 --> 01:21:37,479
Speaker 3: them for their fifth year, which is important. So if

1315
01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:43,679
Speaker 3: they can fix those changes in the institutional philosophy, then yeah,

1316
01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:45,639
Speaker 3: I do believe that they can have a lot of success.

1317
01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:49,080
Speaker 4: They're still going to get six or seven players a

1318
01:21:49,160 --> 01:21:55,320
Speaker 4: year that nobody else could get. But how do they

1319
01:21:55,400 --> 01:22:00,400
Speaker 4: keep their own players from capitalizing on like like I

1320
01:22:00,439 --> 01:22:04,720
Speaker 4: am an or you know, if someone decided he was

1321
01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:07,479
Speaker 4: worth a million bucks, how do they stop him from weaving?

1322
01:22:10,920 --> 01:22:14,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good question. Oregon States.

1323
01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:20,200
Speaker 3: Uh Ad just put out in a statement that said

1324
01:22:20,240 --> 01:22:23,280
Speaker 3: that him and coach Smith have had ongoing conversations for

1325
01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:26,280
Speaker 3: more than a month regarding his future at Oregon State

1326
01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:30,439
Speaker 3: in their path for per foot for football specifically and

1327
01:22:30,600 --> 01:22:34,360
Speaker 3: our athletic department generally. He's embraced our short and long

1328
01:22:34,439 --> 01:22:38,439
Speaker 3: term plans. That sounds like somebody's trying to keep him here.

1329
01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:42,280
Speaker 3: My number one priority is providing him with a new

1330
01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:47,080
Speaker 3: contract and guaranteed compensation that will help continue the success

1331
01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:50,520
Speaker 3: of the football program that has benefited Oregon State University

1332
01:22:50,560 --> 01:22:54,000
Speaker 3: and the and the Beavers, Beaver's athletics.

1333
01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:57,439
Speaker 4: I don't feel good about that because you only have

1334
01:22:57,479 --> 01:23:01,320
Speaker 4: to do that if there's a reason to do that.

1335
01:23:01,360 --> 01:23:02,800
Speaker 4: You only have to make this statement, if there's a

1336
01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:04,720
Speaker 4: reason to make this statement. And now you can at

1337
01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:08,840
Speaker 4: least say like, hey, we're trying. This is crazy. Though

1338
01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:11,799
Speaker 4: he's one year deep into his extension, he is locked

1339
01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:18,320
Speaker 4: up through twenty twenty nine. You don't give him a

1340
01:23:18,360 --> 01:23:22,080
Speaker 4: raise right here unless there's you gave him a raise.

1341
01:23:22,360 --> 01:23:26,320
Speaker 4: It already happened. So you don't do this unless there's

1342
01:23:26,360 --> 01:23:30,880
Speaker 4: wolves at the door exactly there, and there are by

1343
01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:35,280
Speaker 4: the way, like there are definitely wolves at the door.

1344
01:23:38,880 --> 01:23:42,559
Speaker 4: Jonathan Smith, would it be it? Would it be? Okay?

1345
01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:46,360
Speaker 4: So if Jonathan Smith turns down another school to stay

1346
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:50,080
Speaker 4: at Oregon State, knowing the future is uncertain, but knowing

1347
01:23:50,120 --> 01:23:53,519
Speaker 4: that his paycheck is guaranteed, would you respect that or

1348
01:23:53,560 --> 01:23:54,879
Speaker 4: would you feel like he made a mistake.

1349
01:23:57,000 --> 01:24:00,320
Speaker 3: I would say he made a mistake unless Oregon's State

1350
01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:03,160
Speaker 3: can find a path.

1351
01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:11,200
Speaker 5: Forward, if they can present him with a plan that

1352
01:24:11,280 --> 01:24:12,879
Speaker 5: makes sense, I think they're fine.

1353
01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:17,000
Speaker 4: But the any plan right now is just trust me, bro, right.

1354
01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:22,080
Speaker 3: Yes, yep, yep, Because I don't think it's about the

1355
01:24:22,200 --> 01:24:26,640
Speaker 3: money for Jonathan Smith. I think it's about the opportunity,

1356
01:24:29,560 --> 01:24:32,880
Speaker 3: and Oregon State may not be able to provide that opportunity,

1357
01:24:33,439 --> 01:24:37,880
Speaker 3: which is a significant problem. Now on to the next game,

1358
01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:46,720
Speaker 3: we had Oregon and Arizona State. Now, Ralph, you're probably

1359
01:24:46,840 --> 01:24:51,040
Speaker 3: happy about this, but then frustrated because you're probably like, Bro,

1360
01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:51,719
Speaker 3: what's up?

1361
01:24:52,360 --> 01:24:52,599
Speaker 4: Man?

1362
01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:55,360
Speaker 3: Have we just played how we played in the second half,

1363
01:24:55,400 --> 01:24:57,840
Speaker 3: Because we outscored Oregon in the second half, we could

1364
01:24:57,880 --> 01:25:01,439
Speaker 3: have won this football game, which was forty nine to thirteen.

1365
01:25:02,080 --> 01:25:07,320
Speaker 4: Are you talking about how the team that you root

1366
01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:11,920
Speaker 4: for lost two consecutive quarters to the team that I

1367
01:25:12,040 --> 01:25:14,760
Speaker 4: root for and nothing happened after that, And I don't

1368
01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:20,439
Speaker 4: remember what happened before it. I don't know why my

1369
01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:24,840
Speaker 4: memory is so hazy about that first half? Could I

1370
01:25:25,080 --> 01:25:27,599
Speaker 4: could it be that I had a six pack of

1371
01:25:27,720 --> 01:25:29,800
Speaker 4: touchdownstone on my head?

1372
01:25:31,080 --> 01:25:33,719
Speaker 3: Dude, bo Niggs had like, what he have three hundred

1373
01:25:33,720 --> 01:25:38,720
Speaker 3: and fifty yards something like that halftime and six touchdowns

1374
01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:40,680
Speaker 3: and he should have had a seventh it's not for

1375
01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:43,240
Speaker 3: a bogus pass interference call.

1376
01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:45,439
Speaker 2: And then and then they took him out of the game.

1377
01:25:45,479 --> 01:25:49,200
Speaker 4: And yeah, it's so funny to throw for three hundred

1378
01:25:49,200 --> 01:25:51,960
Speaker 4: and fifty yards in one half. I remember Matt Liiner

1379
01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:54,680
Speaker 4: did it one time to the Green Bay Packers in

1380
01:25:54,720 --> 01:25:58,360
Speaker 4: an Arizona Cardinals preseason game. He threw for three fifty

1381
01:25:58,840 --> 01:26:00,599
Speaker 4: in one half, and it was one of the funniest

1382
01:26:00,600 --> 01:26:03,400
Speaker 4: things I've ever seen, not as funny when it's happening

1383
01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:10,200
Speaker 4: to you. There was that tight end screen that had

1384
01:26:11,040 --> 01:26:14,840
Speaker 4: several three hundred pound players twenty five yards down the field, Yeah,

1385
01:26:14,840 --> 01:26:18,880
Speaker 4: clearing out Row Torrents and Jordan Clark getting pushed into

1386
01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:21,559
Speaker 4: the sideline. That was And I think it was probably

1387
01:26:21,600 --> 01:26:23,720
Speaker 4: right after that where you tweeted that like, hey, one

1388
01:26:23,760 --> 01:26:26,880
Speaker 4: team looks a lot bigger and faster yea than the

1389
01:26:26,920 --> 01:26:29,720
Speaker 4: other team. That was about the point where I was like,

1390
01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:32,040
Speaker 4: oh man, these are some dudes. And I knew that,

1391
01:26:32,160 --> 01:26:35,240
Speaker 4: and it backed up everything that I had said going in.

1392
01:26:35,280 --> 01:26:41,320
Speaker 4: None of this is a surprise to anybody. What I

1393
01:26:41,360 --> 01:26:43,920
Speaker 4: am finding that I do not enjoy about Dan Lanning,

1394
01:26:45,160 --> 01:26:48,760
Speaker 4: which came up again this week, is there is no

1395
01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:54,080
Speaker 4: there's nothing in him that doesn't take joy in beating

1396
01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:55,519
Speaker 4: up his friends.

1397
01:26:55,960 --> 01:26:58,840
Speaker 2: Yes, like he he said that.

1398
01:26:58,880 --> 01:27:00,840
Speaker 4: He was like, right, yeah, man, he said it again

1399
01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:01,479
Speaker 4: this week.

1400
01:27:02,120 --> 01:27:03,920
Speaker 2: It's like beating up your little brother.

1401
01:27:05,120 --> 01:27:07,640
Speaker 4: He's he said it again this week. He said, what

1402
01:27:07,680 --> 01:27:11,360
Speaker 4: do you tell Matteo about going out there and having

1403
01:27:11,360 --> 01:27:15,479
Speaker 4: to pass rush his brother? And Dan Lanning's response was,

1404
01:27:15,560 --> 01:27:16,960
Speaker 4: I told him to go hit his brother.

1405
01:27:17,439 --> 01:27:22,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, is not gonna go hit his brother.

1406
01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:24,639
Speaker 3: I don't think he's gonna try. Obviously he's not gonna

1407
01:27:24,680 --> 01:27:27,719
Speaker 3: try to hurt his brother. But but if he gets

1408
01:27:27,720 --> 01:27:32,720
Speaker 3: a chance to lay one on DJ. You don't think

1409
01:27:32,720 --> 01:27:34,160
Speaker 3: he's gonna do it on.

1410
01:27:34,280 --> 01:27:37,760
Speaker 4: Big Bro for sure, But for your coach to not

1411
01:27:37,800 --> 01:27:39,679
Speaker 4: even be like, yeah, I know how that can be tough,

1412
01:27:39,760 --> 01:27:42,479
Speaker 4: Like he's not like, no, go hit him as hard as.

1413
01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:45,599
Speaker 2: You as possibly against, as hard as you positively get.

1414
01:27:46,080 --> 01:27:49,439
Speaker 4: Dan Lanning is treating real life situations like like friends

1415
01:27:49,479 --> 01:27:52,400
Speaker 4: treat fantasy football right like he like.

1416
01:27:52,320 --> 01:27:55,599
Speaker 2: I'm ready to I'm ready to crush you. I'm ready

1417
01:27:55,600 --> 01:27:56,200
Speaker 2: to crush you.

1418
01:27:56,280 --> 01:27:59,400
Speaker 3: So was there anything positive from this to take out

1419
01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:02,599
Speaker 3: an Arizona State Because they came out trying to swinging

1420
01:28:02,720 --> 01:28:07,600
Speaker 3: gate again, running the option with Jaydon Conyers and and Scataboo,

1421
01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:09,840
Speaker 3: and I was like, this is not gonna work.

1422
01:28:12,520 --> 01:28:17,200
Speaker 4: I would say that, Uh, there were the if anything

1423
01:28:17,320 --> 01:28:19,719
Speaker 4: good for Arizona State. There were a lot of Oregon

1424
01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:25,280
Speaker 4: fans in the stands a lot. So thank you for

1425
01:28:25,320 --> 01:28:33,320
Speaker 4: your donation to Arizona State athletic department. We appreciate you.

1426
01:28:34,680 --> 01:28:38,960
Speaker 4: Relative health. They'll get to Carlos Brooks back next week,

1427
01:28:39,000 --> 01:28:41,639
Speaker 4: and they seem to not be competitive in games he's

1428
01:28:41,680 --> 01:28:49,200
Speaker 4: not in. No, it's not great. Bonick's had more touchdown passes.

1429
01:28:49,560 --> 01:28:53,320
Speaker 2: And you said the gaff to Carlos Brooks back next week.

1430
01:28:55,240 --> 01:29:00,000
Speaker 4: ASU's quarterbacks have thrown all year. Yeah, that was bad.

1431
01:29:00,360 --> 01:29:03,040
Speaker 2: Oh is is Rashada coming back this week?

1432
01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:06,200
Speaker 4: I believe he will get some reps in the Territorial Cup.

1433
01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:08,880
Speaker 2: Yes, can't wait to see it.

1434
01:29:09,479 --> 01:29:09,599
Speaker 4: All.

1435
01:29:09,680 --> 01:29:11,679
Speaker 2: Right, last game.

1436
01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:14,880
Speaker 3: And the reason why I left this for the last game,

1437
01:29:14,960 --> 01:29:16,760
Speaker 3: even though it was the first game. Because this was

1438
01:29:16,840 --> 01:29:22,439
Speaker 3: the bloodiest of them all. Washington State finally got another win.

1439
01:29:23,080 --> 01:29:31,120
Speaker 3: They sacrificed Colorado fifty six to fourteen. Shadoor Sanders left

1440
01:29:31,120 --> 01:29:34,200
Speaker 3: the game. I was surprised that he made it to

1441
01:29:34,240 --> 01:29:38,320
Speaker 3: this point in the season. He's in absolute shambles. Bro

1442
01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:44,080
Speaker 3: His body is in shambles. He's a broken man. There

1443
01:29:44,280 --> 01:29:49,840
Speaker 3: There is no like Dion sick right now like he

1444
01:29:49,880 --> 01:29:53,719
Speaker 3: had the flu. Look miserable after the game, like they

1445
01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:57,040
Speaker 3: like they he flew out separate from the team. That's

1446
01:29:57,040 --> 01:30:01,320
Speaker 3: how sick he was. Door had to leave the game.

1447
01:30:01,360 --> 01:30:03,680
Speaker 3: They brought in Ryan Stop, he got beat the hell

1448
01:30:03,760 --> 01:30:07,400
Speaker 3: out of five from fourteen for fifty six yards. Then

1449
01:30:07,439 --> 01:30:12,120
Speaker 3: they brought in a walk on Gavin klud He, Oh,

1450
01:30:12,280 --> 01:30:13,400
Speaker 3: he was bad too.

1451
01:30:15,400 --> 01:30:17,080
Speaker 2: They couldn't run the ball.

1452
01:30:18,439 --> 01:30:20,519
Speaker 3: Even though they were They ran forty one times for

1453
01:30:20,640 --> 01:30:25,400
Speaker 3: ninety one yards for two point two yards to carry.

1454
01:30:26,080 --> 01:30:26,720
Speaker 2: He couldn't trying to.

1455
01:30:26,680 --> 01:30:28,840
Speaker 4: Get out of there. He's trying to get him out

1456
01:30:28,840 --> 01:30:30,799
Speaker 4: of there. That's why they were running. They were literally

1457
01:30:30,880 --> 01:30:31,800
Speaker 4: running down the clock.

1458
01:30:32,640 --> 01:30:40,320
Speaker 2: Yep. And you had cam Ward do his audition for

1459
01:30:40,960 --> 01:30:47,680
Speaker 2: Oregon because no, for real, he's auditioning.

1460
01:30:47,720 --> 01:30:50,200
Speaker 3: So it was the kid from Liberty and a couple

1461
01:30:50,240 --> 01:30:53,600
Speaker 3: other kids as well, because they're going to try to

1462
01:30:53,640 --> 01:30:55,920
Speaker 3: bring them in the in the transfer portal.

1463
01:30:57,439 --> 01:30:59,240
Speaker 2: And this was a hat win for.

1464
01:30:59,320 --> 01:31:05,080
Speaker 4: Sake, part delusion, part in fact.

1465
01:31:05,280 --> 01:31:07,439
Speaker 2: What what's delusional about it?

1466
01:31:07,880 --> 01:31:11,400
Speaker 4: Well, that's my problem is it sounds delusional on the surface,

1467
01:31:11,439 --> 01:31:16,960
Speaker 4: but I know that there's enough truth to to to

1468
01:31:17,040 --> 01:31:19,920
Speaker 4: the possibility of Oregon bringing in some serious talent through

1469
01:31:19,920 --> 01:31:22,640
Speaker 4: the portal that it's I just gotta kind of let

1470
01:31:22,640 --> 01:31:25,240
Speaker 4: you talk. But I do want to point out that

1471
01:31:25,320 --> 01:31:27,519
Speaker 4: to the listener, this is gonna hit their ear a

1472
01:31:27,560 --> 01:31:33,160
Speaker 4: little funny. Do you not get that it's obnoxious? There

1473
01:31:33,160 --> 01:31:36,400
Speaker 4: are eleven other teams in the Pact twelve. Well, all right,

1474
01:31:36,479 --> 01:31:39,400
Speaker 4: so we need some players too.

1475
01:31:39,760 --> 01:31:42,759
Speaker 3: Okay, So I'm just I'm just saying, is that okay,

1476
01:31:42,840 --> 01:31:46,240
Speaker 3: So Washington State's going to try to retain cam Ward.

1477
01:31:47,600 --> 01:31:50,800
Speaker 3: Maybe Washington tries to get cam cam Ward. That could

1478
01:31:50,800 --> 01:31:54,000
Speaker 3: that could be an option too, Yeah, definitely an option.

1479
01:31:56,280 --> 01:32:02,320
Speaker 3: Cow you know, it's a lot of options.

1480
01:32:02,840 --> 01:32:06,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I'm I'm I get it, I get it.

1481
01:32:06,040 --> 01:32:08,639
Speaker 4: It's just every every time we talked about a good

1482
01:32:08,640 --> 01:32:11,320
Speaker 4: player this week. Now the closer we get to December fourth,

1483
01:32:11,800 --> 01:32:15,000
Speaker 4: every time we talked about a good player, you're like,

1484
01:32:15,080 --> 01:32:17,639
Speaker 4: I would love to see them in yellow and green,

1485
01:32:19,200 --> 01:32:21,439
Speaker 4: and knowing that it's actually possible that it could happen

1486
01:32:21,520 --> 01:32:22,480
Speaker 4: is quite frustrating.

1487
01:32:28,080 --> 01:32:33,160
Speaker 3: And yeah, this game was that there was nothing positive

1488
01:32:33,240 --> 01:32:37,840
Speaker 3: to take from this from if you were Colorado, nothing nothing.

1489
01:32:41,040 --> 01:32:44,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're they're toast. This is kind of it's a

1490
01:32:44,880 --> 01:32:46,519
Speaker 4: mix of who you thought they'd be and who I

1491
01:32:46,560 --> 01:32:50,160
Speaker 4: thought they'd be. Right Like, I said the most entertaining

1492
01:32:50,160 --> 01:32:52,600
Speaker 4: and talked about two win team of all time, you

1493
01:32:52,680 --> 01:32:57,880
Speaker 4: said between four and six wins, but they were not

1494
01:32:57,880 --> 01:32:59,320
Speaker 4: going to be able to play defense or run the

1495
01:32:59,320 --> 01:33:02,920
Speaker 4: ball all year. Yep, And that's kind of what it is.

1496
01:33:03,040 --> 01:33:06,800
Speaker 4: I again, I still believe. I still believe. Don't let

1497
01:33:06,880 --> 01:33:10,960
Speaker 4: the downward momentum trick you. They've had a couple of

1498
01:33:10,960 --> 01:33:12,880
Speaker 4: players de commit and kind of be vocal about it,

1499
01:33:12,880 --> 01:33:14,920
Speaker 4: and Dean Sanders did come out and say we're not

1500
01:33:14,960 --> 01:33:17,639
Speaker 4: going to pay for anybody and we're not going to

1501
01:33:18,160 --> 01:33:20,880
Speaker 4: let people hold us financially hostage. You either want to

1502
01:33:20,920 --> 01:33:23,560
Speaker 4: come play for me or you don't. I love the confidence.

1503
01:33:23,560 --> 01:33:25,880
Speaker 4: We'll see how much it lines up with reality. But

1504
01:33:25,920 --> 01:33:28,320
Speaker 4: I do think they're going to get some very very

1505
01:33:28,360 --> 01:33:30,200
Speaker 4: good players this offseason.

1506
01:33:30,240 --> 01:33:35,960
Speaker 2: I think believe that's what it sounds like some day.

1507
01:33:36,120 --> 01:33:39,840
Speaker 4: You in, I don't think Chador's leaving.

1508
01:33:40,240 --> 01:33:42,040
Speaker 2: I don't think is leaving either. I think he's going

1509
01:33:42,120 --> 01:33:45,439
Speaker 2: to do his dad a solid and position himself to

1510
01:33:45,479 --> 01:33:47,360
Speaker 2: be the number one pick for next year.

1511
01:33:50,840 --> 01:33:52,679
Speaker 4: Do you think that's smart? Yes?

1512
01:33:53,479 --> 01:33:55,160
Speaker 2: Yes, if they can get an offensive line.

1513
01:33:55,160 --> 01:33:57,760
Speaker 4: Hell yeah, even though you think he'd probably be a

1514
01:33:57,760 --> 01:33:58,880
Speaker 4: first round pick this year.

1515
01:33:59,800 --> 01:34:05,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, still still okay, it would be questionable. It would

1516
01:34:05,400 --> 01:34:08,400
Speaker 3: be if he has a first round pick. It'd be close, though,

1517
01:34:09,640 --> 01:34:13,320
Speaker 3: it'd be very very close, all right, he uh no, go.

1518
01:34:14,240 --> 01:34:16,400
Speaker 4: I was just gonna say, like I was gonna run

1519
01:34:16,439 --> 01:34:19,519
Speaker 4: through and do some pro comps. But like, but Bo's

1520
01:34:19,560 --> 01:34:23,000
Speaker 4: got a little bit of Drew Brees and him and

1521
01:34:23,000 --> 01:34:25,880
Speaker 4: and uh and shoulders, got a little bit of Jamis

1522
01:34:26,560 --> 01:34:29,240
Speaker 4: and not and like I think people think of Jamis

1523
01:34:29,280 --> 01:34:32,599
Speaker 4: differently than him being the number one pick that through

1524
01:34:32,680 --> 01:34:37,240
Speaker 4: for four thousand yards as a as a rookie. You know,

1525
01:34:37,400 --> 01:34:40,000
Speaker 4: But I'm I'm I'm talking about like when Jamis came

1526
01:34:40,000 --> 01:34:43,320
Speaker 4: out of Florida State, Jamis he that's in there.

1527
01:34:45,880 --> 01:34:51,680
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, well uh what no, No, no, I'm not

1528
01:34:51,720 --> 01:34:55,679
Speaker 2: giving him Jamis. Jamis was making risky throws in college

1529
01:34:55,680 --> 01:34:59,880
Speaker 2: and he was a turnover machine in college, so I

1530
01:35:00,080 --> 01:35:00,680
Speaker 2: can't give you that.

1531
01:35:02,560 --> 01:35:05,040
Speaker 4: He does protect the ball more, but it includes taking

1532
01:35:06,920 --> 01:35:09,000
Speaker 4: a lot of sacks. So is he done? Is he done?

1533
01:35:09,040 --> 01:35:12,960
Speaker 4: Is he gonna play against Utah? Is either team gonna

1534
01:35:12,960 --> 01:35:15,720
Speaker 4: be able to field a roster? Because Kyle Whittingham came

1535
01:35:15,720 --> 01:35:17,880
Speaker 4: out and said everybody's got the flu?

1536
01:35:21,439 --> 01:35:26,000
Speaker 3: Sheesh, well we shall we shall see. I think that

1537
01:35:26,040 --> 01:35:29,080
Speaker 3: they're gonna try to get another win because there may

1538
01:35:29,120 --> 01:35:31,599
Speaker 3: not be enough Bowl eligible teams. And if you don't

1539
01:35:31,600 --> 01:35:35,760
Speaker 3: think that teams are gonna want to take Colorado in

1540
01:35:35,800 --> 01:35:38,799
Speaker 3: a bowl game, oh, broy, they needed that.

1541
01:35:38,800 --> 01:35:41,920
Speaker 2: That Stanford win crippled them because now they're in a

1542
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:43,120
Speaker 2: must win situation.

1543
01:35:49,120 --> 01:35:49,880
Speaker 4: Do you need a break?

1544
01:35:51,680 --> 01:35:53,240
Speaker 2: Oh no, No, I'm good now.

1545
01:35:56,800 --> 01:36:00,400
Speaker 3: All right, So let's finish up with the with the

1546
01:36:00,439 --> 01:36:01,599
Speaker 3: picks for next week?

1547
01:36:02,200 --> 01:36:08,599
Speaker 2: We have we have this week? First game is on

1548
01:36:08,680 --> 01:36:11,200
Speaker 2: Friday Friday.

1549
01:36:10,840 --> 01:36:20,080
Speaker 3: At five thirty pm. Oregon State, who's on a is

1550
01:36:20,160 --> 01:36:25,160
Speaker 3: traveling down to Eugene. They are fourteen point underdogs, sixty

1551
01:36:25,200 --> 01:36:26,719
Speaker 3: two and a half over under.

1552
01:36:26,840 --> 01:36:31,519
Speaker 2: Who you got, Ralph God?

1553
01:36:31,560 --> 01:36:34,160
Speaker 4: I still hate Friday games. It doesn't matter how late

1554
01:36:34,160 --> 01:36:34,960
Speaker 4: in the season it is.

1555
01:36:42,520 --> 01:36:44,680
Speaker 2: You know what the right answer is, Ralph.

1556
01:36:47,439 --> 01:36:51,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it. The line moved a lot.

1557
01:36:51,680 --> 01:36:54,080
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, because it started out at eleven and a half.

1558
01:36:56,439 --> 01:37:02,120
Speaker 4: So, I mean, I I'm pretty confident that Oregon States

1559
01:37:02,160 --> 01:37:07,080
Speaker 4: defensive backs aren't gonna be able to do anything in

1560
01:37:07,120 --> 01:37:09,559
Speaker 4: the same way that Arizona State's defensive backs weren't able

1561
01:37:09,560 --> 01:37:12,720
Speaker 4: to do anything. It's just a matter of how much

1562
01:37:12,760 --> 01:37:21,680
Speaker 4: is Oregon State gonna score? And I think this is

1563
01:37:21,680 --> 01:37:24,360
Speaker 4: gonna be bad, George, I think it's gonna be bad.

1564
01:37:24,560 --> 01:37:28,880
Speaker 4: I think I'm thinking like forty to fifteen level, but

1565
01:37:29,000 --> 01:37:31,599
Speaker 4: that that still hits the under. So I'll say, I'll

1566
01:37:31,640 --> 01:37:34,559
Speaker 4: say ducks in the under. I got all over last week.

1567
01:37:34,680 --> 01:37:37,320
Speaker 2: I got ducks in the under. Two Buddy Ducks in

1568
01:37:37,360 --> 01:37:40,599
Speaker 2: the under. Yeah. Yeah, this is not going over sixty

1569
01:37:40,600 --> 01:37:44,320
Speaker 2: two and a half in the less Oregon scores forty nine.

1570
01:37:46,960 --> 01:37:49,160
Speaker 2: You got Colorado Utah.

1571
01:37:49,520 --> 01:37:53,360
Speaker 3: Utah's favored by twenty two points fifty two and a

1572
01:37:53,439 --> 01:37:56,799
Speaker 3: half over under. That sort of line suggests that Shader

1573
01:37:56,920 --> 01:37:58,440
Speaker 3: Sanders may not be playing.

1574
01:38:01,280 --> 01:38:11,000
Speaker 4: Right because there would be money on Colorado regardless. But

1575
01:38:12,360 --> 01:38:13,880
Speaker 4: you know, what's Utah going to be able to do.

1576
01:38:14,080 --> 01:38:17,280
Speaker 4: I'll go with the under. Three touchdowns is crazy to

1577
01:38:17,360 --> 01:38:21,200
Speaker 4: me based on what we just saw, But I think

1578
01:38:21,360 --> 01:38:23,040
Speaker 4: I think that Utah is gonna be playing with a

1579
01:38:23,040 --> 01:38:26,960
Speaker 4: little bit of hate in their heart here for the

1580
01:38:27,120 --> 01:38:30,120
Speaker 4: you know, the last PAC twelve version of this fake rivalry.

1581
01:38:31,360 --> 01:38:40,000
Speaker 4: Give me Utah by twenty four. Utah by twenty five

1582
01:38:40,160 --> 01:38:42,800
Speaker 4: will say thirty five to ten, So that will hit

1583
01:38:42,840 --> 01:38:46,400
Speaker 4: the under and yeah, I'll take I'll take the utes.

1584
01:38:48,760 --> 01:38:53,200
Speaker 3: Okay, So I am I hit a little Google machine.

1585
01:38:53,320 --> 01:38:56,040
Speaker 3: It is unknown if he will play in the game

1586
01:38:56,160 --> 01:39:01,320
Speaker 3: or not. Now if Utah's Utah has a bunch of

1587
01:39:01,320 --> 01:39:04,320
Speaker 3: defensive players out, so I'm I'm I'm gonna have to

1588
01:39:05,040 --> 01:39:09,280
Speaker 3: hedge this one, Ralph, Okay that if Shader Sanders plays,

1589
01:39:09,360 --> 01:39:15,400
Speaker 3: I'm going to take Colorado and the over. If if

1590
01:39:15,439 --> 01:39:18,679
Speaker 3: he does not play, I'm taking Utah and the under

1591
01:39:18,880 --> 01:39:26,880
Speaker 3: because Colorado won't score. Won't score wow, Okay, or a

1592
01:39:27,000 --> 01:39:30,800
Speaker 3: few field goals or a loan late touchdown.

1593
01:39:31,360 --> 01:39:37,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, then you that should do reveal to go to

1594
01:39:37,360 --> 01:39:39,599
Speaker 4: Dion and really up the price on doing his data

1595
01:39:39,640 --> 01:39:40,160
Speaker 4: Solid Nations.

1596
01:39:40,240 --> 01:39:48,160
Speaker 3: You'll be like yesterday's prices is not today's prices. All right,

1597
01:39:48,600 --> 01:39:52,840
Speaker 3: Arizona Arizona State Territorial Cup Arizona favor by ten and

1598
01:39:52,880 --> 01:39:59,760
Speaker 3: a half. Favored by ten and a half points. As

1599
01:39:59,760 --> 01:40:04,439
Speaker 3: an ad comes up, who do you have in this game?

1600
01:40:04,640 --> 01:40:08,840
Speaker 2: Over under fifty and a half.

1601
01:40:10,640 --> 01:40:15,160
Speaker 4: Let's go with the under. I'm sensing a theme and

1602
01:40:15,280 --> 01:40:20,920
Speaker 4: this is a heart pick. It's a heart pick. In Tempe,

1603
01:40:22,000 --> 01:40:28,679
Speaker 4: Jedfish's last game, question Mark de Carlos Brooks is back.

1604
01:40:30,720 --> 01:40:36,000
Speaker 4: I'm taking Arizona States to cover, but I do think

1605
01:40:36,120 --> 01:40:38,400
Speaker 4: it will be in the twenties. Both teams in the twenties,

1606
01:40:38,439 --> 01:40:40,519
Speaker 4: So I don't like the I don't like the over.

1607
01:40:40,960 --> 01:40:44,439
Speaker 3: I'm riding with you, buddy, Arizona State and the under.

1608
01:40:45,920 --> 01:40:48,479
Speaker 3: I think that the Jedfish rumors are going to start

1609
01:40:48,520 --> 01:40:52,920
Speaker 3: some drama over there, and teams get weird when when

1610
01:40:52,960 --> 01:40:57,800
Speaker 3: their coaches are you know, things are going on. That's

1611
01:40:57,840 --> 01:41:00,600
Speaker 3: what's happening in the Oregon Oregon State game. Don't be

1612
01:41:00,640 --> 01:41:03,599
Speaker 3: surprised if that one gets a little lumpy at times

1613
01:41:03,640 --> 01:41:08,719
Speaker 3: because of that. Washington State Washington over under sixty eight

1614
01:41:08,800 --> 01:41:13,040
Speaker 3: and a half, Washington favored by sixteen and a half.

1615
01:41:13,120 --> 01:41:18,479
Speaker 3: I'll start this off by taking Washington State and the over,

1616
01:41:19,600 --> 01:41:21,519
Speaker 3: even though I believe Washington's gonna win this game.

1617
01:41:23,479 --> 01:41:25,200
Speaker 4: Wow, so you think it's gonna be points all over

1618
01:41:25,200 --> 01:41:26,080
Speaker 4: the place. Huh?

1619
01:41:26,320 --> 01:41:30,200
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, and Washington State is either going to pull

1620
01:41:30,240 --> 01:41:33,639
Speaker 3: a serious upset or close to it or back door cover.

1621
01:41:36,560 --> 01:41:40,920
Speaker 4: Yeah. I guess who is the real Washington State? Is

1622
01:41:40,960 --> 01:41:45,400
Speaker 4: it the team that went single digits against Arizona and

1623
01:41:45,640 --> 01:41:50,559
Speaker 4: Stanford or is it the team that dropped thirty nine

1624
01:41:51,080 --> 01:41:56,840
Speaker 4: in a loss at Cal and fifty six against Colorado.

1625
01:41:57,280 --> 01:42:01,240
Speaker 4: Some of that was damaged done on defense. And also

1626
01:42:01,320 --> 01:42:03,679
Speaker 4: shout out to Washington State for doing the chaduur watch

1627
01:42:03,720 --> 01:42:08,000
Speaker 4: thing after like every touchdown six times in the first half. Yes,

1628
01:42:14,560 --> 01:42:19,280
Speaker 4: give me the under and I will ride with you

1629
01:42:19,320 --> 01:42:22,519
Speaker 4: and take Washington State. But again, I think maybe fifteen

1630
01:42:22,600 --> 01:42:25,120
Speaker 4: point game. I'm not. I still think it's going to

1631
01:42:25,160 --> 01:42:28,839
Speaker 4: be two scores in favor of in favor of Washington.

1632
01:42:28,880 --> 01:42:32,400
Speaker 4: But I don't think that Washington State has the ability

1633
01:42:32,439 --> 01:42:36,960
Speaker 4: to score like that. They have again, two single digit

1634
01:42:37,000 --> 01:42:39,920
Speaker 4: output games in which they had their pretty much their

1635
01:42:39,920 --> 01:42:45,960
Speaker 4: whole offense healthy. Washington's defense can do what Stanford or

1636
01:42:46,400 --> 01:42:48,680
Speaker 4: Arizona's did, right, I mean, I gotta believe that so

1637
01:42:50,600 --> 01:42:52,479
Speaker 4: I want to believe it so that you know Washington

1638
01:42:52,520 --> 01:42:56,160
Speaker 4: actually represents well and doesn't lose the number four spot

1639
01:42:56,200 --> 01:42:59,040
Speaker 4: that they just gained. So give me Washington State. I

1640
01:42:59,040 --> 01:43:01,439
Speaker 4: still think it's a two score win and I'll take

1641
01:43:01,439 --> 01:43:01,880
Speaker 4: the under.

1642
01:43:02,479 --> 01:43:03,960
Speaker 2: Yeap, that makes a lot of sense.

1643
01:43:05,560 --> 01:43:12,559
Speaker 3: Next game up Notre Dame Stanford. Notre Dame's favored by

1644
01:43:12,720 --> 01:43:16,600
Speaker 3: twenty six points over under fifty one and a half.

1645
01:43:17,000 --> 01:43:21,360
Speaker 3: Not a chance in hell Notre Dame covers this, no

1646
01:43:21,520 --> 01:43:22,080
Speaker 3: chance round.

1647
01:43:22,920 --> 01:43:26,559
Speaker 4: I'm with you. I want to say the last PAC

1648
01:43:26,640 --> 01:43:30,840
Speaker 4: twelve regular season non conference game ever. Want to say

1649
01:43:30,880 --> 01:43:33,439
Speaker 4: it's a hard pick too, but I absolutely believe it.

1650
01:43:34,280 --> 01:43:37,680
Speaker 4: I think Stanford's gonna cover just because I think that you.

1651
01:43:37,640 --> 01:43:40,479
Speaker 2: Know Notre Dames, do you offense isn't that good?

1652
01:43:41,400 --> 01:43:43,920
Speaker 4: And at twenty four to three, I think Notre Dame

1653
01:43:43,920 --> 01:43:45,639
Speaker 4: would take the rest of the day off.

1654
01:43:45,920 --> 01:43:51,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, exactly, Yeah, this is this is This will

1655
01:43:51,479 --> 01:43:54,720
Speaker 2: either be some sort of backdoor cover or it'll just

1656
01:43:54,760 --> 01:43:59,040
Speaker 2: be like a sixteen point win, seventeen point win. It

1657
01:43:59,080 --> 01:44:01,400
Speaker 2: ain't getting a twenty six, they ain't getting four scores.

1658
01:44:01,880 --> 01:44:07,120
Speaker 2: Just telling you over under fifty one and a half.

1659
01:44:08,720 --> 01:44:12,080
Speaker 4: Under, Yes, absolutely, I think I went. I went all

1660
01:44:12,080 --> 01:44:13,880
Speaker 4: overs last week, all unders this week?

1661
01:44:14,120 --> 01:44:18,760
Speaker 3: Yep uh Cal Ucla. Cal is trying to get bowl eligible.

1662
01:44:19,360 --> 01:44:22,640
Speaker 3: Ucla is favored by nine points over under fifty one

1663
01:44:22,720 --> 01:44:26,640
Speaker 3: and a half. Remember, Cal's defense can't stop a nosebleed.

1664
01:44:27,000 --> 01:44:29,639
Speaker 3: UCLA's defense is tough as nails.

1665
01:44:30,800 --> 01:44:35,880
Speaker 4: So is this technically a byegate, Yes, yes it is.

1666
01:44:36,280 --> 01:44:37,879
Speaker 4: This is the calimony Bowl.

1667
01:44:38,080 --> 01:44:44,639
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, Cal is taking calimony, alimony, child's port,

1668
01:44:44,720 --> 01:44:49,080
Speaker 2: or whatever you want to call it from UCLA. You can't.

1669
01:44:49,200 --> 01:44:53,280
Speaker 4: You can't pay Cal have them beat you and then

1670
01:44:53,400 --> 01:44:57,320
Speaker 4: get to go cash a bull check. You can't. You

1671
01:44:57,360 --> 01:45:02,720
Speaker 4: can't do that if you're UCLA. But nine points, I

1672
01:45:02,720 --> 01:45:03,040
Speaker 4: don't know.

1673
01:45:03,080 --> 01:45:05,640
Speaker 3: They believe in their defense, that's what they do. I

1674
01:45:05,680 --> 01:45:08,920
Speaker 3: am going to buy Ucla in this one because I

1675
01:45:08,960 --> 01:45:11,360
Speaker 3: do believe that their defense will be able.

1676
01:45:11,120 --> 01:45:12,040
Speaker 2: To get stops.

1677
01:45:12,960 --> 01:45:15,040
Speaker 3: Jay not will not be running the ball on them

1678
01:45:15,080 --> 01:45:17,320
Speaker 3: the same way that he didn't run the ball on Oregon,

1679
01:45:18,760 --> 01:45:20,960
Speaker 3: and then Mendoza is gonna have to beat you with

1680
01:45:21,040 --> 01:45:21,400
Speaker 3: his arm.

1681
01:45:21,439 --> 01:45:22,720
Speaker 2: But that pass rush.

1682
01:45:22,520 --> 01:45:26,800
Speaker 3: Is wicket lat Two's a I mean, dude, if you

1683
01:45:27,000 --> 01:45:30,439
Speaker 3: just put a single cam on Lattu, who is the

1684
01:45:30,479 --> 01:45:32,120
Speaker 3: defensive player of the year in the Pac twelve.

1685
01:45:32,160 --> 01:45:34,200
Speaker 2: But we will give out awards next week. But it's

1686
01:45:34,360 --> 01:45:40,840
Speaker 2: but it's him. Uh yeah, So give me Ucla and

1687
01:45:40,920 --> 01:45:43,600
Speaker 2: give me the.

1688
01:45:42,680 --> 01:45:47,679
Speaker 4: Under Okay, I'm gonna take cal in this one, believe

1689
01:45:47,680 --> 01:45:52,520
Speaker 4: it or not, because the last two home performances for UCLA,

1690
01:45:53,320 --> 01:46:00,560
Speaker 4: scoring twenty eight on Colorado and seven against ASU, the

1691
01:46:00,920 --> 01:46:05,920
Speaker 4: Rose Bowl doesn't matter at all to them. They don't

1692
01:46:05,920 --> 01:46:11,320
Speaker 4: accomplish anything by winning this game. The athletes, they don't

1693
01:46:11,320 --> 01:46:14,160
Speaker 4: care about the calimony that's fun for us. They don't

1694
01:46:14,160 --> 01:46:19,519
Speaker 4: care about that. There's no extra motivation there. UCLA is

1695
01:46:19,520 --> 01:46:23,880
Speaker 4: still on that quarter system, so they they don't even

1696
01:46:23,920 --> 01:46:34,000
Speaker 4: get vacation. Yeah, I'm I'm gonna. I'm gonna go with

1697
01:46:34,479 --> 01:46:38,639
Speaker 4: and and Thanksgiving right. For some reason, the road teams

1698
01:46:38,640 --> 01:46:41,439
Speaker 4: that didn't get to hang out with their families always

1699
01:46:41,439 --> 01:46:45,600
Speaker 4: seemed to fare better after Thanksgiving.

1700
01:46:45,680 --> 01:46:50,480
Speaker 2: So and now for our contest.

1701
01:46:50,720 --> 01:46:54,559
Speaker 3: So Ralph is up eleven to ten because I took

1702
01:46:54,640 --> 01:46:57,160
Speaker 3: Caleb Williams last week, who had three hundred and eighty

1703
01:46:57,160 --> 01:47:00,240
Speaker 3: four yards, a touchdown and a pick, but one of

1704
01:47:00,280 --> 01:47:03,679
Speaker 3: the greatest performance because they lost only scored twenty points.

1705
01:47:03,960 --> 01:47:07,280
Speaker 3: And he had Troy Franklin, who had multiple touchdowns killed

1706
01:47:07,280 --> 01:47:08,080
Speaker 3: Arizona State.

1707
01:47:08,160 --> 01:47:09,880
Speaker 2: So he's up eleven to ten.

1708
01:47:10,320 --> 01:47:14,559
Speaker 3: And this week he and Ralph is taking Jaquindin Jackson

1709
01:47:14,640 --> 01:47:18,679
Speaker 3: running back from Utah and I am taking TJ. Harden

1710
01:47:19,479 --> 01:47:22,840
Speaker 3: running back from UCLA. I need this win and so

1711
01:47:23,080 --> 01:47:26,040
Speaker 3: uh yeah, you guys, this has packed twelve apostles. I'm

1712
01:47:26,080 --> 01:47:28,519
Speaker 3: George reis Er, he's Ralph ams in peace Out, Catch

1713
01:47:28,520 --> 01:47:29,320
Speaker 3: you guys later