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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys at now here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls,
Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola. And oh what a Tuesday. It is
Speaker 1: inside the s WBC Mortgage studios at Ford Center, at
Speaker 1: the Star in Frisco and elsewhere Bill Jones with Everson
Speaker 1: Walls and Mickey Spagnola. And you know what day this is?
Speaker 1: I do know what? Anybody have any idea? This is
Speaker 1: what day is this? Mickey Spagnola. This is Chris Beam's birthday,
Speaker 1: January twelfth. January twelfth, It's Chris Beam, our producer's birthday today.
Speaker 1: How about that, a fellow Capricorn, I had no idea. Yeah, Christopher,
Speaker 1: and he's working. He's working on his birthday. He's in fact,
Speaker 1: he is working this show. That's why this show will
Speaker 1: come out flawlessly, because Chris Beam is at the controls,
Speaker 1: although he will not show himself on mix shots for
Speaker 1: some reason. And for some reason he won't. And Bill,
Speaker 1: you want to know a strange oddity and why I
Speaker 1: remember this because no, why is that his birthday is
Speaker 1: the same day as my sisters and his brother and
Speaker 1: his brother's birthday rich is on the same day as
Speaker 1: mine in December. That wow, Now the years are a
Speaker 1: little different. But and of course rich in that scouting
Speaker 1: department has done yeoman work for so many years for
Speaker 1: this team and it's a rather busy time. Well, any
Speaker 1: time of the year is a busy time of the
Speaker 1: year for a Cowboys scout, but especially this time of
Speaker 1: the year, and especially with what they're going to be
Speaker 1: dealing with leading up to the draft. How much has
Speaker 1: happened though ever since since the last time we talked
Speaker 1: a week ago, well, I have been solely disappointed. Once again,
Speaker 1: I did not get the defensive coordinator's job for the
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. I threw my name in the hat, but
Speaker 1: it was the wrong hat. That's why I didn't get
Speaker 1: the job. So the way it goes, it's just it's
Speaker 1: amazing how much happens in the first week the offseason
Speaker 1: and it just jump starts. Uh. You know, I think
Speaker 1: Mickey that especially well, I think for NFL fans a
Speaker 1: lot of times, this time of the year gets them
Speaker 1: riled up as much as any time of the year
Speaker 1: because you're trying to fix your team now, and the
Speaker 1: Cowboys have gone to work rather quickly and trying to
Speaker 1: fix that defense. Yeah, and I think for the fans
Speaker 1: out there, they everybody's a GM more so than a coach, right,
Speaker 1: so they feel like they can run this thing. But
Speaker 1: I don't think it was any surprise that the Cowboys
Speaker 1: cut ties with Mike Nolan as the defensive coordinator. I
Speaker 1: think we've probably seen that coming for quite some time,
Speaker 1: and I would imagine, you know, the Cowboys were I
Speaker 1: don't think it was a thing, Oh, we got to
Speaker 1: the end of the season. Now we're gonna have to
Speaker 1: look for a new defensive coordinator. I think they probably
Speaker 1: had their eye on what was going on on other
Speaker 1: staffs and who was gonna be available and who became available.
Speaker 1: So I think this was probably pretty well thought out
Speaker 1: before deciding yesterday to hire uh Dan Quinn as the
Speaker 1: new defensive coordinator. Uh. They had had a virtual interview
Speaker 1: with him on Sunday Blue, and then when you fly
Speaker 1: a guy in in these circumstances on Monday for an interview,
Speaker 1: you pretty much know what's getting ready to happen, right right, No,
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not flying in for an interview. I
Speaker 1: may not make it back home. So yeah, you make
Speaker 1: a lot of sense back, Yeah, I'm flying in to
Speaker 1: sign that contract. Yeah. Now you talking about being a
Speaker 1: not being a head coach. Uh, that's what everyone was
Speaker 1: talking about, you know on social media. I mean the guys,
Speaker 1: you know, not a good head coach, but as a DC,
Speaker 1: you know, he had some He's got some bones, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, got some bones in his hand,
Speaker 1: and that Seattle Seahawk team was something that he's been
Speaker 1: laying his hat off for quite some time. But there
Speaker 1: at the same time, you look at what happened to
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl as a head coach and it just
Speaker 1: doesn't bode well. So I don't know, guys, it didn't.
Speaker 1: It didn't seem like it took much thought. As much
Speaker 1: as McCarthy is just trying to find a competent coordinator
Speaker 1: that he has a good relationship with. He's not gonna
Speaker 1: bring in anyone that he hadn't worked with before. That
Speaker 1: seems to be obvious. So U McCarthy seems to be
Speaker 1: a little bit of a homie, a little bit of
Speaker 1: a homer there. He brings in people that he definitely
Speaker 1: knows and feels comfortable with me. He knows that doesn't
Speaker 1: supersede I hope it doesn't supersede their their competence though. Well,
Speaker 1: he knows he knows Quinn because Quinn beat him on
Speaker 1: the way to the Super Bowl when he was the
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator in Seattle, and or beat him in uh no,
Speaker 1: beat him in twenty sixteen as the Falcons were going
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl, by the way, So that's how
Speaker 1: he knows him. Uh. And and let's not Yeah, I
Speaker 1: understand the Falcons lost the Super Bowl, but they got
Speaker 1: there and that's something that hadn't happened here twenty five years.
Speaker 1: So uh, kudos for him doing that. Also, by the way,
Speaker 1: he had beaten the Cowboys twice in a row and
Speaker 1: his first year as a head coach thirty nine twenty eight,
Speaker 1: and we will never forget twenty seventeen when they beat
Speaker 1: the Cowboys twenty seven seven and had like eight sacks
Speaker 1: and made a career for Adrian Clayborne with six of those.
Speaker 1: So for right now, AH held Cleveland, Cleveland. Yeah, absolutely, Well,
Speaker 1: we we just we just we just we just we
Speaker 1: just just put him all the way up into the stratosphere,
Speaker 1: didn't we And he made a lot of Actually he
Speaker 1: went to the you know, he went to the Patriots
Speaker 1: after the Falcons, and then he may have gone back
Speaker 1: to Atlanta and then he's in Cleveland and so he's
Speaker 1: just every year he just checked cash is another big
Speaker 1: paycheck for thanks to Chaz Greeny. We'll look up and
Speaker 1: he'll be here with us next year. There. Well, you
Speaker 1: know that's the way, as you know ever since, that's
Speaker 1: the way it works. It's that familiarity and you know
Speaker 1: a lot of times that's that's kind of what you're
Speaker 1: talking about. It's not only with McCarthy, but so many coaches.
Speaker 1: It's the guys they're familiar with that that they will hire.
Speaker 1: And uh and even though he hadn't maybe worked with
Speaker 1: him before, Uh, you know, Quinn's been around a good
Speaker 1: while and uh, as you talk about with that Seattle Defense,
Speaker 1: the Legion of Boom Defense had he had a pretty
Speaker 1: good run there. He was first there as an assistant,
Speaker 1: then left and then came back as the coordinator. And
Speaker 1: when he was the coordinator there, it was Super Bowl
Speaker 1: runs then two two of them by if we come out, Hey,
Speaker 1: if we come out this year, in another nickel defense
Speaker 1: on first down, I'm gonna go throw myself off as
Speaker 1: somebody off of somebody's building downtown because I hope we're
Speaker 1: not going through this again. I look for more. I
Speaker 1: don't know what's the word I'm looking for. Uh, you know, traditional.
Speaker 1: I want to be more traditional here in Dallas in
Speaker 1: regards to stopping people. All this this unconventional defense, it
Speaker 1: just hadn't been working for us the last couple of years. Well,
Speaker 1: if you if you look at well, you know, when
Speaker 1: I saw who the other guys they were interviewing virtually
Speaker 1: Joe Went, Jason Simmons, These guys were passing game coordinators,
Speaker 1: second dairy coaches. But when I saw a guy that
Speaker 1: was a successful former defensive coordinators, which those guys hadn't been,
Speaker 1: and not just in the NFL, but had a pretty
Speaker 1: good run at that one year when he did leave
Speaker 1: Seattle as the defensive line coach to become the off
Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator at Florida where they ended up as
Speaker 1: the eighth ranked defense that year. You know, he's had
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator experience, and I think, you know, the last
Speaker 1: thing the Cowboys needed is somebody young to come in
Speaker 1: and tutor to be a defensive coordinator for the first time.
Speaker 1: They needed somebody established to come in, somebody that had
Speaker 1: a track record, somebody had skins on the wall with
Speaker 1: these players that would catch their attention when they reconvene
Speaker 1: here and whatever March April, whenever we get around to that.
Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting like an understudy that he might
Speaker 1: bring in with him, or you know, someone that he
Speaker 1: could pass the baton to. Uh, Joe Joe Witt might
Speaker 1: be coming along with him, who interviewed for the job
Speaker 1: since he was on his staff in Atlanta and he
Speaker 1: has a history with Mike McCarthy. Yeah, I don't think
Speaker 1: this isn't the last This isn't the last shoot of
Speaker 1: to fall here. Uh that you know, they got to
Speaker 1: bring in a defensive line coach. He's been a defensive
Speaker 1: line coach, so he probably knows people that he likes
Speaker 1: add in that position. In Bill's right about Joe went
Speaker 1: had coached in Green Bay with McCarthy, and you know
Speaker 1: who knows what they do if they shake up the
Speaker 1: secondary and you know they may listen to the to
Speaker 1: the you know, the new coordinator if he's got guys
Speaker 1: that he wants to go ahead and work with Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think they will. I think they will. Also, you
Speaker 1: know the guy that was always standing next to him, uh,
Speaker 1: and I think it was his DC in the Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: or at least he was a secondary coach. Is it
Speaker 1: Raheem Morris? Do I have his name right? Well? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Raheem Morris. You know, he's been with Tampa Bay and
Speaker 1: then he was a head coach and uh, I'm trying
Speaker 1: to recall on the ended up the interim coacher in
Speaker 1: my confused I think he was the interim coach in
Speaker 1: Atlanta for a minute. Uh, he's been around. I think
Speaker 1: he went to the reds to uh at that time
Speaker 1: they were the Redskins, but the Washington team. Uh, and
Speaker 1: they were very close when he was there doing that.
Speaker 1: I think he was they were close doing that Super
Speaker 1: Bowl run. That's right, that's right. Raheem was the interim
Speaker 1: coach after Quinn was let go this year and so
Speaker 1: Raheem Morris has been uh with the Falcons since twenty fifteen.
Speaker 1: So he's been there the whole time uh that Quinn
Speaker 1: has been there, and you're right ever since prior to that,
Speaker 1: he was in Washington twenty twelve to fourteen. Prior to that,
Speaker 1: he was the Tampa head coach, Tampa Bay head coach
Speaker 1: nine to eleven, and the defensive backs coach prior to that,
Speaker 1: and he was a Case State defensive coordinator under Bill
Speaker 1: Snyder going all the way back to two thousand and six,
Speaker 1: you know. And I've seen his name come up for
Speaker 1: some of these head coaching jobs too, So they might
Speaker 1: let that play out before he might bring in a guy,
Speaker 1: a guy like that. But look, at least dan Quinn
Speaker 1: has a track record. I mean, what he did in
Speaker 1: Seattle was incredible. Now, I know, I know, when you
Speaker 1: have Cam Chancellor and Bobby Wagner and kJ Wright and
Speaker 1: Richard Sherman and Michael Bennett, Cliff Avril and Earl Thomas,
Speaker 1: you probably got a pretty good head start on having
Speaker 1: a decent defense. But at least it's a it's a
Speaker 1: guy that is structured in a four three defense, not
Speaker 1: coming in here trying to play a little bit of
Speaker 1: four three, a little bit three four, trying to invent
Speaker 1: reinvent the wheel when it should be pretty simple to
Speaker 1: look at the personnel here and think it's a four
Speaker 1: three defense. With the defensive ends they have, they are
Speaker 1: not those outside linebackers that you need in a in
Speaker 1: A three four. Uh So I or you know, I
Speaker 1: just think that the transition should be a lot easier
Speaker 1: with him and his track record those two seasons, uh
Speaker 1: in Seattle when by the way, they won one Super
Speaker 1: Bowl and lost one Super Bowl. Uh So he's got
Speaker 1: a down and they should have won two. And I
Speaker 1: and I saw this note that you know they that
Speaker 1: twenty thirteen season, and they led the league in points
Speaker 1: given up, They led the league in past defense, They
Speaker 1: led the league with thirty nine takeaways, and that's the
Speaker 1: first time a team has done that triple defensively since
Speaker 1: the nineteen eighty five Chicago Bears. So, uh he had
Speaker 1: something going there. Now, obviously he'll needs the help they
Speaker 1: need personnel. But again, and I'll say it, and and
Speaker 1: people need to realize this, This Cowboy defense finished twenty
Speaker 1: third overall, thirty first against the run. And this was
Speaker 1: a defense the year before that finished ninth overall and
Speaker 1: eleventh against the run. So I know they lost some personnel,
Speaker 1: but still the majority of the guys on that defense
Speaker 1: that had come back, and we're playing on that same
Speaker 1: defense that played decently in twenty nineteen I gotta tell you, Spags,
Speaker 1: the way things are going around the country with the pandemic,
Speaker 1: and it's not slowing down. I think this offseason is
Speaker 1: still going to be extremely uncomfortable. I think it's still
Speaker 1: going to be a challenge for coaches and players to
Speaker 1: get together without having a whole bunch of protocol issues.
Speaker 1: That's number one. Number two. I think Dan might come
Speaker 1: in and change a whole lot of this team personnel
Speaker 1: to player personnel. I think he may try and get
Speaker 1: some of his guys in that he may feel more
Speaker 1: comfortable with, especially around the front seven. Again, things might
Speaker 1: be a little bit different. You talked about the that's
Speaker 1: not the last shoe to drop. I think I think
Speaker 1: as far as football personnel, that's also going to be
Speaker 1: the case, because he's accustomed to certain types of players.
Speaker 1: But it's going to be difficult to really manage trying
Speaker 1: to get players in and things of that nature, just
Speaker 1: as difficult as it was last year. So there's gonna
Speaker 1: be some challenges that he's going to have to face,
Speaker 1: like the same challenges we had this passed off season. Well,
Speaker 1: I'll take care of one of his challenges. If he
Speaker 1: needs a defensive tackle I'll take number fifty eight from Alabama. Okay,
Speaker 1: Barmore if he's still there with the tenth all right,
Speaker 1: Well along those lines, you know, Mickey, you talked about
Speaker 1: the talent that he had in Seattle, and a lot
Speaker 1: of that talent was already there when he came back
Speaker 1: as the defensive coordinator, but he was there as a
Speaker 1: defensive line coach when they started acquiring that talent when
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll took over there in Seattle before he left
Speaker 1: to go to University of Florida as a DC. And
Speaker 1: then he comes into Atlanta and who did they pick
Speaker 1: in the fifth round his first year there? A defensive
Speaker 1: tackle by the name of Grady Jarrett who has turned
Speaker 1: out to be pretty darn good in this league as
Speaker 1: far as making Pro Bowls and so forth. And you know,
Speaker 1: and you know as well as I do, how much
Speaker 1: the coaching staff has an input as far as drafting
Speaker 1: players goes and on this Cowboys team and the outing
Speaker 1: staff and Jerry Jones, Stephen Jones, they want the coaches
Speaker 1: to be involved in it. And if he can pick talent,
Speaker 1: you know. The other thing. They picked linebackers pretty good
Speaker 1: in Atlanta the last few years as well, and so
Speaker 1: if he's that judge of talent, I think is a
Speaker 1: big part of being a defensive coordinator for this Cowboys team.
Speaker 1: And I bet that was part of the interview too,
Speaker 1: by the way, not only you know the type of
Speaker 1: players you want, you see what we have. And I'm
Speaker 1: sure he did his homework on what the Cowboys had
Speaker 1: along with just looking for the right type of person.
Speaker 1: And Hey, as good as that Barmore was last night,
Speaker 1: I liked his attitude during the interviews afterwards. I want
Speaker 1: somebody that's got a little oof to him, and he
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, we were the best, We're supposed to
Speaker 1: come out and win this game. God bless him. Hey,
Speaker 1: I spoke Nick Saban probably be there too, his head
Speaker 1: all week long, all month long. So yeah, that's kind
Speaker 1: of the attitude that they've had there in Alabama. But
Speaker 1: when you talk about how the draft is going to
Speaker 1: turn out, I'm hoping that the Cowboys are looking for
Speaker 1: defense first this season. Let's look at trying to get
Speaker 1: that impact player, maybe even trade up and start making
Speaker 1: some moves. Because as far as offenser and offensively, if
Speaker 1: we can just of course get our offensive lineman healthy,
Speaker 1: that wouldn't be a priority on this team. Defensively, we
Speaker 1: have got I think our first three picks should be
Speaker 1: quality defensive players on this team, sort of like they
Speaker 1: did last year. The first four, the first five, we're
Speaker 1: on defense, right, second, third, fourth, And then they brought
Speaker 1: in another fourth at the end of the round and
Speaker 1: then drafted another defensive guy in the fifth round. So
Speaker 1: you know, everybody keeps talking about they ignore defense. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they picked Ceedee Lamb, but every pick after that was
Speaker 1: nearly defensive, except for Tyler Beannist, who's gonna be your
Speaker 1: starting center this coming season ever since? Did you have
Speaker 1: a chance to watch much of that game last night Alabama?
Speaker 1: I watched a bit of it. I'm gonna get Spags
Speaker 1: in trouble here. I watched a bit of it, and
Speaker 1: by halftime, I think by the beginning of the third
Speaker 1: I lost interests. And well, you didn't sod out Ohio
Speaker 1: State on the popcorn. We'removing the popcorn from the ceiling.
Speaker 1: So I actually did it, Bill. I texted Spags and
Speaker 1: I told him I am going to attack this popcorn
Speaker 1: on my ceiling. I got so excited. I didn't just
Speaker 1: do one room. I went halfway into the other room.
Speaker 1: So yeah, all right, yeah, and Bill, I couldn't got
Speaker 1: your popcorn ready. I couldn't. I couldn't help myself. I
Speaker 1: needed to text somebody. Saw I said, oh, maybe somebody
Speaker 1: that's been a defensive player in the NFL will appreciate this.
Speaker 1: I texted him and I said, do you think the
Speaker 1: news that Deante Smith won the Heisman Trophy made it
Speaker 1: to the state of Ohio? My son and I. I
Speaker 1: got so frustrated when he lined up in the slot
Speaker 1: on the left side and he ran directly to the
Speaker 1: end zone diagonally and no one touched him with the
Speaker 1: linebacker the same thing. Oh my god, are they gonna
Speaker 1: do they realize what this guy is? And it's just
Speaker 1: crazy that that's when I said, you know what, here
Speaker 1: I came, popcorn, I'm ready, I'm ready to take your arm.
Speaker 1: I would have been double teaming him from the first
Speaker 1: snap of the game. Somebody, that's what Hey ever sin
Speaker 1: I think it was Emmanuel Acho who tweeted last night
Speaker 1: after that touchdown where they lined him up in the
Speaker 1: slot and then that four linebacker was trying to chase
Speaker 1: him down the middle of the field. Said, linebacker, he
Speaker 1: used to just keep on jogging up to the coach's
Speaker 1: box and slap his defensive coordinator outside the head. Hey,
Speaker 1: you know what my son said, who is this linebacker?
Speaker 1: He looks like he's running in molasses nut. That's that's
Speaker 1: how But that's how quick and how good this guy
Speaker 1: Smith is. So he'll make and that's the quality linebacker
Speaker 1: that we're talking about him. He made him look like
Speaker 1: he was just an average joe. Yeah, I mean it
Speaker 1: doesn't There aren't very many linebackers they're gonna be able
Speaker 1: to run with that guy on the middle of the field.
Speaker 1: And so the Longhorn fans are pretty excited about Steve
Speaker 1: Sarkisian what he's gonna bring down to Texas. With the
Speaker 1: play calling that he had in last night's game. He
Speaker 1: had he had, he had it all working well. And
Speaker 1: you know, when you're talking about an Ohio State team
Speaker 1: like they played that Ohio State I used to get
Speaker 1: into arguments with Von Springs all the time about who
Speaker 1: has the best athletes, and he always bragged on the
Speaker 1: Ohio State and I couldn't argue against him. They always
Speaker 1: have such not just athletic players, but also football talented
Speaker 1: players on that squad, and Alabama and Sark made them
Speaker 1: look like they were just another team, just another team
Speaker 1: out there. And that's that's a quality defense that they
Speaker 1: were just running by all night long. Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: and then I kept hearing excuses about, well we didn't
Speaker 1: have this player or that player. And I said to myself,
Speaker 1: you know what, that's what happens when you play, you know,
Speaker 1: try playing eleven games instead of six, you know, five injuries. Yeah, hey,
Speaker 1: how about how about they lose their running Ohio State
Speaker 1: loses Trey Sermon, they're running back on the first play
Speaker 1: of the game. Well, if you look at his track
Speaker 1: record at Oklahoma and I looked it up for Steve
Speaker 1: Dennis last night, Huge Ohio State. I said, over three years,
Speaker 1: and he always was battling some sort of injury. And
Speaker 1: I love Trey Sermon as a running back. He's going
Speaker 1: to be in this draft. He's in. He's a guy
Speaker 1: that you want to look at. But he also has
Speaker 1: an injury history. And I looked it up and over
Speaker 1: the three years at OU he averaged one hundred and
Speaker 1: thirteen carries a season. It was always about the eighth
Speaker 1: game of the year that okay he's banged up. Now,
Speaker 1: well it was the eighth game of the year for
Speaker 1: Ohio State, and he got hurt on the first play
Speaker 1: of the game and right at one hundred and sixteen
Speaker 1: snaps on the sea. It carries on the season for him.
Speaker 1: But you're right, I mean, that's that was my whole
Speaker 1: issue with Ohio State being in the game to begin with.
Speaker 1: It was not the quality of the team there. Obviously,
Speaker 1: they've got the talent and they could have won the
Speaker 1: whole thing if things fell right, if they if Alabama
Speaker 1: would have had a COVID outbreak. But um, but they
Speaker 1: didn't face they didn't they didn't face the live bullets
Speaker 1: all season. They only played well, it was seven games
Speaker 1: before last night. It was six games before, five games
Speaker 1: before they played in the Big Ten. Yeah, yeah, right exactly.
Speaker 1: And uh and you have to play the games in
Speaker 1: order to qualify to get into the playoff in my opinion. Anyway, Well,
Speaker 1: it seemed that once they beat Clemson, you know it
Speaker 1: really like, okay, that shut up all the critics because
Speaker 1: of how they really have the Clemson and the biggest
Speaker 1: critic in Dabbo. And so when you look at how
Speaker 1: that happened, you kind of thought that they put all
Speaker 1: naysayers aside. But of course, if you don't win out
Speaker 1: then it's gonna pop back up and then here we are. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, and oh the reason I brought that up
Speaker 1: in the first place, Everson to you, did you have
Speaker 1: a chance to check out Patrick Certain, the cornerback for Alabama,
Speaker 1: who might be a guy that the Cowboys would be considering.
Speaker 1: How about having a couple of Alabama cornerbacks on this team.
Speaker 1: He's he's, uh so Tam the second? Correct, So Tam
Speaker 1: the second? Yes he is? That's right. Yes, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: saw Dad in the stands. Yeah, that was good stuff.
Speaker 1: I'd love to have him here. But they got to
Speaker 1: come in playing like he did last night, you know,
Speaker 1: don't come in here playing like they played last year.
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear it. I don't want to
Speaker 1: have any excuses. I want to draft some players who
Speaker 1: are ready to make a difference this year. And I'm
Speaker 1: not talking about two interceptions and I don't understand the defense.
Speaker 1: I want some players that come in with that number
Speaker 1: fifty eight's attitude, no matter what position you play. All right,
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Speaker 1: a very timely read Mickey Spagnola because it is Tuesday,
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Speaker 1: to give you as long as the season lasts. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure how long the season lasts, but maybe they
Speaker 1: have reruns after the episode, maybe it goes all year long.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I'll be check it out Tuesday night,
Speaker 1: nine o'clock Central Time on cmt Okay. We mentioned in
Speaker 1: the first segment Mickey Mike Nolan and wasn't a surprise
Speaker 1: at all that he was let go on Friday. Also,
Speaker 1: Jim tom Sula, defensive line coach, was let go, and
Speaker 1: of course he was sort of a Nolan's right hand man.
Speaker 1: They had a history together in San Francisco, So I
Speaker 1: don't think it was surprising that tom Sula was also
Speaker 1: let go on Friday. No, I think you're exactly right.
Speaker 1: And you know, I think probably some of it had
Speaker 1: to do with knowing that kind of where they wanted
Speaker 1: to go with the defensive coordinator deal. And and you know,
Speaker 1: here's another thing that I think might have taken place.
Speaker 1: You know, we heard about how they had exit interviews
Speaker 1: with the players. Well, I think when you get to
Speaker 1: that point and Everson, you correct me if I'm wrong,
Speaker 1: but I think when you get to that point in
Speaker 1: the season, and Mike McCarthy made mention of, yeah, I've
Speaker 1: done the exit interview with our team leaders, meaning the
Speaker 1: defensive guys that they he considered their leaders, and I'm
Speaker 1: guessing you know, when they got asked the question about
Speaker 1: how things went, you'd be more likely to speak up
Speaker 1: after the season than during the season, right And and
Speaker 1: you know, and I think at some point you got
Speaker 1: to listen to guys, and I would imagine, you know,
Speaker 1: I bet Mike Nolan didn't get a whole lot of
Speaker 1: pats on the back for the Bobby did from the players.
Speaker 1: If you just go back and listen to what DeMarcus
Speaker 1: Lawrence had to say after the season in his last
Speaker 1: press conference conference call, and he talked about how you know,
Speaker 1: I'll you know, when you change things like that, it's
Speaker 1: easy for a guy like me, but for young guys
Speaker 1: it was hard to kind of get the concept right.
Speaker 1: And then he went on to mention, he goes, and
Speaker 1: I give Mike Nolan credit because he kind of changed
Speaker 1: things towards the end and we started playing better. He said,
Speaker 1: So Leasy was man enough to do that. So I
Speaker 1: would imagine when he got asked a question, he probably
Speaker 1: would have said the same thing to the owner that
Speaker 1: he said to us. I tell you, Spats, I can count.
Speaker 1: How can I put the postseason interviews back in the
Speaker 1: eighties on one finger? That was practice back then? And
Speaker 1: in what season was that? I really, when I say
Speaker 1: one finger, I didn't have less than the fingers? Can
Speaker 1: I say finger case you could get zero fingers. There
Speaker 1: weren't no meetings that you know, you talk about post
Speaker 1: meeting I don't. Once we were done, it was almost
Speaker 1: like you got fired. We cleaned out a locker, and
Speaker 1: we went home until the offseason workouts were scheduled to start.
Speaker 1: So no, that was none of that. No, you're gonna
Speaker 1: tell Tom. You're gonna tell Tom Landry, Hey, coach, Uh,
Speaker 1: your flex wasn't working right. You know. As a cornerback,
Speaker 1: I feel that I need more pressure on first down.
Speaker 1: Forget playing the run. I want to play the pass
Speaker 1: all the time. You know, let's let those horses go.
Speaker 1: I mean, if if I could have told him that,
Speaker 1: I shouldn't have. But I never ever was asked by
Speaker 1: Tom Langer or anyone in the Cowboy organization what I
Speaker 1: thought about the past season, and I wasn't the only one.
Speaker 1: So Everson, let me ask you, this, is it better
Speaker 1: now that the players that get input? Hell yeah, it's better.
Speaker 1: It was better players should get as much love. I've
Speaker 1: been fighting this fight that the players are you know,
Speaker 1: succeeding at for over thirty years. I was a union rep.
Speaker 1: I was out on the picket line by myself. Okay,
Speaker 1: no one wanted to be out there with me. So
Speaker 1: not only was it not the time that Cowboys was
Speaker 1: at that time as well, even though we were boardering
Speaker 1: on bankruptcy and things that nature, the Cowboys were still
Speaker 1: the most powerful and popular team in all of sports,
Speaker 1: even though we weren't winning. It just didn't have Jerry
Speaker 1: Jones there to up the prices on everything. That's all
Speaker 1: it was. That's the only difference. So and I agree
Speaker 1: with you, Mickey. In fact, Mike McCarthy said that it's
Speaker 1: when we take the coaches show that he was He
Speaker 1: was inspired, I think was the word he used after
Speaker 1: hearing what the players had to say. And I think
Speaker 1: the other thing that comes into that is, you know,
Speaker 1: the wheels could have got turning as far as the
Speaker 1: input from the players before the Monday after the last
Speaker 1: regular season game, but the Cowboys were still in it
Speaker 1: all the way to the end, and so there was
Speaker 1: never a time or place for it. If the Cowboys
Speaker 1: had been eliminated, you know, by Christmas, you know, a
Speaker 1: week or so earlier, then those conversations could have been
Speaker 1: had informally, you know, even before the end of the season.
Speaker 1: But this team was still focused on doing what they
Speaker 1: had to do to win football games. And I think
Speaker 1: that's actually why it took until Friday before the obvious
Speaker 1: happened and there was the change made. As far as
Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator is concerned, and uh, you know, and
Speaker 1: and as far as Mike Nolan is concerned, I think
Speaker 1: if probably if he had it to do over again,
Speaker 1: if he knew what was and wasn't being learned through
Speaker 1: those offseason virtual obsessions, he probably would have taken a
Speaker 1: different approach in the things that he did. But I
Speaker 1: think that one of the biggest things, what Mickey you
Speaker 1: talked about in the earlier segment is the fact that
Speaker 1: they need to have a coaching philosophy on defense that
Speaker 1: fits their personnel. And I believe the four three defense
Speaker 1: would fit their personnel better than what we were seeing
Speaker 1: this year, oh, you know, absolutely and especially you know,
Speaker 1: and we'll see what happens with um you know from
Speaker 1: the defensive front, you know, will Aldon Smith come back?
Speaker 1: It sounded like they sort of liked what he did.
Speaker 1: Now it's a matter of um, you know, it comes
Speaker 1: down to finances and somebody else might be really interested
Speaker 1: in them. They still have the rights to Randy Gregory
Speaker 1: Antoine Hoods would make the other restricted free agents, so
Speaker 1: technically they could have his rights too. And the other
Speaker 1: thing on Alden Smith is, you know Tom Sula had
Speaker 1: him in San Francisco and so that was one of
Speaker 1: the main reasons that Alden Smith was here to begin with.
Speaker 1: Where does Tom Sula wind up? I mean, well, would
Speaker 1: Alden Smith follow him wherever he goes? You know? So
Speaker 1: there's so much that the fu we don't know is
Speaker 1: with Dan Quinn and whoever the coaches are on this staff,
Speaker 1: they're going to have a different opinion about players than
Speaker 1: what the current what the twenty twenty coaching staff had,
Speaker 1: and so it's hard to predict a lot of stuff
Speaker 1: about free agency right now. And they probably know what
Speaker 1: those guys think. Is when you bring in guys like
Speaker 1: that for interviews, You're you're picking tent guys brains, right,
Speaker 1: even if you don't hire them, you're trying to figure
Speaker 1: out what do they know? What do they know about us?
Speaker 1: Because I'll guarantee you when these guys get a call
Speaker 1: for an interview, they don't just fly in and say, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm here. They do their homework. They probably started looking
Speaker 1: at tape and knowing what the cowboys could do or
Speaker 1: couldn't do, what the personnel was like. And even if
Speaker 1: you don't hire them, I know that was one of
Speaker 1: the reasons why Jerry would love to interview six guys
Speaker 1: for a head coaching job, just to pick their brain
Speaker 1: and find out more about what somebody else thinks of
Speaker 1: his team. And I would imagine this time around, you know,
Speaker 1: with those other two guys, they probably were picking their
Speaker 1: brain too, And who knows, you know, as you said, Bill,
Speaker 1: one of them might be here. Let's let's go through this, guys.
Speaker 1: Let's let's think what if? What if Andy Dalton doesn't
Speaker 1: get a concussion in the Washington game and his continuity
Speaker 1: continues to improve, you know, he gets more games, more
Speaker 1: consecutive games under his belt, He hits the stride, sooner
Speaker 1: during the season than he would have when he had
Speaker 1: COVID on top of the concussion protocol. That is something
Speaker 1: that has always run through my mind. Even though I
Speaker 1: was kind of disappointed in his play in the last game,
Speaker 1: he was feeling the pressure. Let's just be real, and
Speaker 1: I don't mean five pressure. I think he was just
Speaker 1: really feeling the pressure that he had put on himself.
Speaker 1: But I think he would have gone past all of that.
Speaker 1: If he would have continued to play without the interruption,
Speaker 1: his improvement would have continued. Therefore, offensively, our improvement would
Speaker 1: have continued. And let's be real, guys, as our offense
Speaker 1: continued to improve, our defense also continue to capitalize off
Speaker 1: of their successes. So if if fifty three Boston, if
Speaker 1: he doesn't commit that personal file, we're looking at possibly
Speaker 1: an entirely different look on the Cowboys and maybe Mike
Speaker 1: Nolan he still has a job, and the Cowboys swell, no,
Speaker 1: they wouldn't still be playing because they wouldn't have eaten
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay. They would have played Tampa they would have lost,
Speaker 1: and then we would still up and saying, boy, we're
Speaker 1: gonna get them next year, you know, And then the
Speaker 1: Nolan decision would have been made this week instead of
Speaker 1: last week because you know what, and I understand how
Speaker 1: the takeaways in those last games turn things around, but
Speaker 1: they were still giving up gobs of yards, right, I
Speaker 1: mean gobs. And they might have won some games, but
Speaker 1: they're giving up four hundred yards total offense. You know,
Speaker 1: at some point you to be able to stop people,
Speaker 1: and you I know, you know, the turnovers are great,
Speaker 1: getting those takeaways are great, but you can't count on
Speaker 1: that to happen at that rate when you're giving up
Speaker 1: that many yards. I mean, uh, go back and look
Speaker 1: at the yardage they gave up against Baltimore. You know,
Speaker 1: they kept talking about all the yards that they gained running,
Speaker 1: uh in the in the playoff game with Lamar Jackson
Speaker 1: just running buy people. But that happened against the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: They gave up what was a two hundred and seventy
Speaker 1: some yards rushing that game, if I remember correctly, And
Speaker 1: they gave up that game as well, right, And they
Speaker 1: gave up a bunch of yards to when they beat Minnesota,
Speaker 1: they still gave up a bunch of yards. They were
Speaker 1: giving up rushing yards left and right. They never really
Speaker 1: slowed anybody down. So, and I agree that you know,
Speaker 1: you can kind of if the offense is playing better
Speaker 1: than the defense. Yeah, they you know, the teams have
Speaker 1: got to start taking chances against you, and you have
Speaker 1: a chance defensively. But boy, they just were not shutting
Speaker 1: anybody down anytime that you can't stop the run. And
Speaker 1: I am a living witness nineteen eighty five, hell, nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty three, anytime we saw Eric Dickerson, anytime we saw
Speaker 1: Walter Peyton. You know, they always knew. As we got
Speaker 1: older on our defensive line, that was the way we
Speaker 1: were attacked. In the early eighties pads. They would come
Speaker 1: at us with the past because you had Harvey Martin,
Speaker 1: John Dutton too tall, and Randy Okay, so you're you're
Speaker 1: not gonna try and run on those guys when the
Speaker 1: flex defense is at its best in the early eighties.
Speaker 1: But as we started to go into eighty five, eighty six,
Speaker 1: eighty seven, the guys started to get a little bit older,
Speaker 1: and the opposition started to realize that the flex was obsolete.
Speaker 1: And so we're in the secondary. It's nothing you can do.
Speaker 1: You know, they're running the ball. They're running the ball.
Speaker 1: They're running the ball and it's such a helpless feeling.
Speaker 1: And I could feel that for the Boys this year,
Speaker 1: all year long, when it seemed like we had to
Speaker 1: make a play, we just couldn't. And it all came
Speaker 1: from the run. Yeah, you know. And the thing that
Speaker 1: stood out to me watching these playoff games all weekend,
Speaker 1: watching six games, and I know it's probably not what
Speaker 1: happened in all six games, but my takeaway from those
Speaker 1: games watching them was Number One, the teams that ran
Speaker 1: the ball really well ended up winning. The teams that
Speaker 1: played well defensively they ended up winning. Because now your
Speaker 1: offense doesn't have to score thirty points, doesn't have to
Speaker 1: score forty points to be able to win a game.
Speaker 1: And those were two of the Cowboys downfalls. They did
Speaker 1: not run the ball effectively enough all season long, and
Speaker 1: that had something to do with that offensive line that
Speaker 1: they were playing with. And then from a defensive standpoint,
Speaker 1: they just had trouble stopping people. And if you can't,
Speaker 1: if you get into the playoffs and you can't stop anybody,
Speaker 1: chances are you're gonna struggle. And I think that's what happened.
Speaker 1: What happened, What happened with football, right, what happened with Cleveland. Right.
Speaker 1: I don't know how good Cleveland was offensively, but boy,
Speaker 1: they sure took advantage of everything that was handed to
Speaker 1: him defensively. From the first snap of the narn game.
Speaker 1: How about that? You know what that game reminded me of? It?
Speaker 1: It reminded me of the Cowboys nineteen ninety four NFC
Speaker 1: title game against San Francisco when they turned the ball
Speaker 1: over the first three possessions in that game and fell
Speaker 1: behind twenty one to nothing, and there was still seven
Speaker 1: minutes to go in the first quarter and they nearly
Speaker 1: caught up. Actually, what you saw this week, right, here's
Speaker 1: the other part of that. Mickey Mickey who was turning
Speaker 1: the ball over for the Cowboys in that game. It
Speaker 1: were future Hall of famers turning the football over in
Speaker 1: that game and in that Pittsburgh Cleveland game. It's a
Speaker 1: future perhaps a future Hall of Fame center and Pouncy
Speaker 1: on the first play of the game. And then the
Speaker 1: quarterback right in the quarterbacks the future Hall of famer. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know the other thing on that I
Speaker 1: was just looking up. I wrote it down on Sunday night.
Speaker 1: The quarterbacks in the playoff games, and I'm struggling to
Speaker 1: find it. But the numbers on the quarterbacks in the
Speaker 1: in the playoff games over the weekend, the winning quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: I believe, through a total of one interception in the
Speaker 1: six games, and the losing quarterbacks it was around seven
Speaker 1: or eight interceptions. And part of that is they're playing
Speaker 1: from behind. They got to take more chances. But to
Speaker 1: your point, Mickey, about being able to run the football,
Speaker 1: and it's and it's such a complimentary thing between offense
Speaker 1: and defense. If you can get ahead, it's just it's
Speaker 1: it makes it so much easier on your quarterback. Well,
Speaker 1: and you know what, and some of those interceptions that
Speaker 1: took place, they were batted balls at the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 1: How about that the outs of linemen getting their hand
Speaker 1: on the ball. Yeah, well a couple of them didn't
Speaker 1: even go past the lines. It was they got it
Speaker 1: in the pocket. He got the ball in the pocket.
Speaker 1: That's the quarterbacks pocket. That's how it goes. All right,
Speaker 1: we're gonna take a break. We need to look ahead
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Speaker 1: which means nine o'clock tonight you can tune in. Well,
Speaker 1: you get back in the off season, spags. Why the
Speaker 1: season you're bet in the offset. That's like me having
Speaker 1: a great spring game and I sucked doing the opening.
Speaker 1: Let me just make I'm relaxed now. Yeah, I tried.
Speaker 1: He's got too much on his plate during the season,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, that stuff off his plate and
Speaker 1: he can focus more. I didn't have. I found those
Speaker 1: I found those numbers on the quarterbacks over the weekend.
Speaker 1: In the six playoff games, the winning quarterbacks had one
Speaker 1: interception and ten touchdown passes. That's like Troy Aikman in
Speaker 1: the playoffs in nineteen ninety two. I think that was
Speaker 1: Troy's numbers. And the Cowboys went to the playoffs and
Speaker 1: won Super Bowl twenty seven. And by the way, Chris Beam,
Speaker 1: we are birthday boy. We are getting feedback in our
Speaker 1: ears right now. There we go, and thank you Chris.
Speaker 1: And the losing quarterbacks had a total of seven interceptions
Speaker 1: and eleven touchdown passes, so the picks were seven to one.
Speaker 1: There you go, all right. Rocklisberger had what five hip
Speaker 1: yards passing? Yeah, so four of those interceptions were from
Speaker 1: Big Ben. So there's that too, and four of the
Speaker 1: touchdowns too. Yeah, that's right, that's right. But to your point, Mickey,
Speaker 1: you take Big Ben's numbers out of there, and as
Speaker 1: far as losing quarterbacks, there were seven touchdown passes and
Speaker 1: even the winning in six games only ten touchdown passes. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know, running the football was a key and winning
Speaker 1: these games over the weekend. Man, I'll tell you what
Speaker 1: that that touchdown run Lamar Jackson from fifty yards. He
Speaker 1: kicked it in a gear that I don't think anybody
Speaker 1: realized he had. Those guys had the angle on him,
Speaker 1: and he still ran by him. That's a big man.
Speaker 1: That's not like some little DeVante Smith guy. Right. But no, no,
Speaker 1: I gotta say what really, there's a sudden uh visual
Speaker 1: visuals that that kind of make things look different. I
Speaker 1: gotta say that number twenty four they had out there
Speaker 1: chasing him around. He bo as slow as I was.
Speaker 1: I mean, he might have been a big hitter, but
Speaker 1: was he a monster back or was he a defensive
Speaker 1: back on it? Because he was he was big footing it,
Speaker 1: as Ron Springs used to say. He was big footing
Speaker 1: it around that entire field. And I don't think I
Speaker 1: saw him chase anybody down the entire game. But no,
Speaker 1: it doesn't take away from the fact that Lamar Jackson
Speaker 1: is who we always thought he was. And I must
Speaker 1: add still my Super Bowl pick, the Baltimore Ravens. My
Speaker 1: team is still in it. They have improved over the season.
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson has even improved his passing just a bit
Speaker 1: and as the season goes on. So right now, my dog,
Speaker 1: as except my dog on the AFC side, is still
Speaker 1: in the race. And I'm looking twenty four. That's can't
Speaker 1: even curl for Tennessee. He looked Horever Pierce for a
Speaker 1: first round draft pick of the He's out of Texas.
Speaker 1: He must be a linebacker. That that must safety. He
Speaker 1: is strong, he's always running behind. Is your all right? Um?
Speaker 1: All right? We got a choice here, Mickey. You want
Speaker 1: to get into these games? I think we we need
Speaker 1: I forgot we got to talk a little bit about
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson in Philadelphia. Yes, yeah, for some reason that
Speaker 1: surprised me. I know there was there were there were
Speaker 1: some rumblings and I'm going, no, They're not going to
Speaker 1: do that, right, No, But I think, you know what,
Speaker 1: I think there might have been a disconnect between uh
Speaker 1: Peterson and Lurry. I think that maybe he was told
Speaker 1: to pull the quarterback and he didn't agree with it,
Speaker 1: but he did it. And maybe that's why afterwards when
Speaker 1: he had trouble explaining why it happened, maybe that's why
Speaker 1: uh they that's maybe why it happened, because he couldn't
Speaker 1: explain it because he probably wasn't for it. I'm wondering
Speaker 1: if that took place. And when there's a disconnect between
Speaker 1: the owner and the head coach, you know who wins,
Speaker 1: right well, Spags Even before the interview, Lawyer was threatening
Speaker 1: him before he came in. You know, he's like looking,
Speaker 1: he doesn't tell me what I want to hear, He's
Speaker 1: out of here. Basically, that's what the That was the
Speaker 1: pregame notion of the pre meeting moten notion was unless
Speaker 1: we're completely on the same page in this meeting, then
Speaker 1: then we're gonna part ways. So you kind of knew
Speaker 1: going in there was nothing that he could do to
Speaker 1: change Lawy's mind unless there was something biblical and we
Speaker 1: didn't want that. So how about how about this in
Speaker 1: the NFC East now, because there's a new head coach
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia. So the three first year head coaches are
Speaker 1: now the deans of the NFC East, the trait. I
Speaker 1: think Ron Rivera is the dean because he got fired
Speaker 1: like on January second, and McCarthy was January seventh, and
Speaker 1: Joe Judge was January eighth or something like that. And
Speaker 1: so yeah, in a year's time, it's a complete turnover.
Speaker 1: And I think if people that aren't fans of the
Speaker 1: NFC East, I would think they was probably a good
Speaker 1: thing that the change coaches in the NFC's I have
Speaker 1: to say, guys, we are looking at a new explosive
Speaker 1: rivalry though between Baltimore and the Titans. You know, you're
Speaker 1: talking about two teams that really, to me, have the
Speaker 1: same attitude. Both of the coaches are extremely hardheaded, stubborn
Speaker 1: and good at what they do. The team's philosophy almost
Speaker 1: the same. The only difference is the quarterback. One quarterback
Speaker 1: is we're both extremely athletic quarterbacks as well. So when
Speaker 1: you look at that, those teams almost made the same
Speaker 1: up and down the line, and boy, they they're stomping
Speaker 1: on each other's logos and things of that nature. That's
Speaker 1: the kind of playoff games that I really love. That
Speaker 1: goes back to the old school Cowboys versus Red Skins,
Speaker 1: Harvey Martin taking the wreath and throwing it into the
Speaker 1: locker room, other players and the red Skins crying because
Speaker 1: they just lost the game. That's real emotional playoff football,
Speaker 1: right there. Lamar Jackson running into the locker room. No
Speaker 1: fans fare of shake, quarterback shaking hands. No, that kind
Speaker 1: of crap. I'm going in. They don't deserve to shake
Speaker 1: out hands. I love it, I love it. I love it.
Speaker 1: Good football. And one more note on the Eagles. They
Speaker 1: are not hiring Lincoln Riley. Okay, I'm just gonna tell
Speaker 1: you that right now. They are not hiring Lincoln Riley
Speaker 1: is not going to Philadelphia. Why would he take a
Speaker 1: worse job. I'll just say that. Okay. Anyway, all right,
Speaker 1: matchups this weekend. Here's what we got. We got the
Speaker 1: Ram the early game on Saturday. The Rams are at
Speaker 1: the Packers. The Saturday night game is Baltimore and Buffalo
Speaker 1: Sunday at two o'clock. It's Cleveland and Kansas City Mayfield
Speaker 1: versus Mahomes. And of course they met in college and
Speaker 1: it was a sixty six to fifty nine game and
Speaker 1: mahomes against my sooner has passed for seven hundred and
Speaker 1: something yards and lost the game sixty six. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then the night game on Sunday night, it's actually a
Speaker 1: five forty kickoffs. By the way, what year was that
Speaker 1: so that Stoops was still there? Or was he? No?
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, oh, Kingsbury, Kingsbury five. He was
Speaker 1: a he was a five hundred coach at Tech and
Speaker 1: he's ten got over five hundred in the NFL in
Speaker 1: two seasons. Either. Nothing right, nothing's same. Hey, you better
Speaker 1: be careful. My wife might be listening all right now.
Speaker 1: She's not here. Right now. I'll say that. You know what,
Speaker 1: It's funny you said that. I said something last night.
Speaker 1: We were watching it and my two of my daughters
Speaker 1: were here last night and there they made me go
Speaker 1: upstairs to watch the game because they had to watch
Speaker 1: The Bachelor. Okay, so but I made I get kicked
Speaker 1: out of the room because they have to watch Bridget
Speaker 1: turn or something. I can't watch that with the girls. No,
Speaker 1: two of my daughters who live close to us, they
Speaker 1: purpose they've come over on Mondays to watch The Bachelor.
Speaker 1: I'm like, there's football to night. It's a national championship game.
Speaker 1: Can't we watch some football? No, they want to look
Speaker 1: at mister hottie. They don't want to look at you, Bill.
Speaker 1: So anyway, I made some snide comment about Cliff Kingsbury
Speaker 1: as I was walking out of the room. I don't
Speaker 1: know why, and my wife, the tech grad, said, what
Speaker 1: is it that you have against Ingsbury? Anyway? All right,
Speaker 1: that's all right, Bill. I almost up. I almost got
Speaker 1: sent upstairs when I pointed out that the last time
Speaker 1: Davante Adams had two hundred yards in the first half
Speaker 1: just happened to be against LSU. And by the way,
Speaker 1: we gang up on my wife because she's in the
Speaker 1: two daughters that were here last night. They both went
Speaker 1: to OU to school. So it's fun ganging up, all right.
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay in New Orleans is the Sunday night game
Speaker 1: and it's a five forty kickoff, so it's just like
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl kickoff between two forty plus year old quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: So which of those games do you like? Rams, Packers, Ravens, Bills, Brown's, Chiefs, Bucks, Saints. Oh,
Speaker 1: I like all four of them. I think those are
Speaker 1: incredible matchups for the playoffs. Um, you know, I don't
Speaker 1: know about the Rams with their quarterback situation, right, So
Speaker 1: you we're gonna take the Packers there played at home,
Speaker 1: I would think, so, yeah, yeah, we got the Packers there.
Speaker 1: About Baltimore Buffalo, that's my game. That is going to
Speaker 1: be an amazing game. Buffalo is super scary. What about
Speaker 1: Hot Sauce? Man just just yes found himself another home.
Speaker 1: And I must admit I'm jealous because I wanted him
Speaker 1: to stay here as much as I like Ceedee Lamb.
Speaker 1: Before that was a Ceede Lamb. That was Hot Sauce.
Speaker 1: He had had a couple of tough years here and
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden he just broke out his
Speaker 1: last year again. Just proud of him. But man, my
Speaker 1: Ravens are gonna go in there. They're gonna shock the world.
Speaker 1: They're gonna shock the world like Muhammad Ali. Baby. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm waiting on it. That's gonna be the upset. That's
Speaker 1: gonna be the upset of the playoffs right there. Okay,
Speaker 1: you got Baltimore, Mackey, you got Baltimore Buffalo. And now
Speaker 1: said I was sticking with the Bills, and so I'm
Speaker 1: gonna stay with them, although I worry about their defense
Speaker 1: going up against the Ravens. I think I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: Baltimore in that game too. I think I'm with you, Everson.
Speaker 1: All Right, Cleveland, Kansas City have a spirit, man, it
Speaker 1: comes from the coach. They a great spirit on that team.
Speaker 1: All Right, Brown, Brown's can't go into Kansas City and win, right,
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Well, Casey, Casey's defense has been
Speaker 1: really struggle and if they can't stop the run, Chubb
Speaker 1: is gonna chew them up. Not just Chubb but Hunt
Speaker 1: as well. That's gonna be I'm sorry, not hot, but yeah,
Speaker 1: Chubb's gonna up. It's gonna be tough, guys. I yeah,
Speaker 1: that could be another upsets. Fags could be another upset.
Speaker 1: See the thing I worry about and Mickey, there's another quarterback.
Speaker 1: There's another quarterback there in Mayfield. Is you get a
Speaker 1: run game going and he can see he can now
Speaker 1: be an efficient quarterback. What I worry, what I worry
Speaker 1: all the time. What I worry about Kansas City is
Speaker 1: the fact that they kind of struggled down the stretch.
Speaker 1: They should. They weren't steamrolling people the way Buffalo was,
Speaker 1: by the way, or the way the Ravens did at
Speaker 1: the end. Of the year they were struggling to win games.
Speaker 1: But um, I still I just don't know if I
Speaker 1: trust the Browns uh this far, and they had to
Speaker 1: go against the Halls, just especially in the clutch, right right,
Speaker 1: I just can't see them losing their first playoff game
Speaker 1: the year after winning the Super Bowl second game. Maybe
Speaker 1: all right, Tampa Bay, New Orleans, M m brady and
Speaker 1: Breeze that that that Saints defense. That's the top two
Speaker 1: in the top two in the league right now, Saints defense,
Speaker 1: and I so we basically I was gonna say, and
Speaker 1: I agree with him. I think the Saints deep fence
Speaker 1: will make make the difference in this one. They ain't
Speaker 1: giving up thirty or forty points to Tampa Bay. The
Speaker 1: two things you talked about in the playoffs bags running
Speaker 1: game and defense. The Saints have both. Okay, So we
Speaker 1: would be looking then at an NFC championship game next
Speaker 1: week of New Orleans at Green Bay and Everson, you
Speaker 1: would have an AFC championship game of Baltimore at Kansas City,
Speaker 1: and Mickey, you have Buffalo at Kansas City. Absolute there
Speaker 1: you go. That's pretty pretty tasty. I like that, all right.
Speaker 1: I like that they're tasty. Yeah, that's good. Well, let's
Speaker 1: let's end the show. I'm tasty, don't need any hot
Speaker 1: sauce one, so you could have, you could have so
Speaker 1: you can have some cold weather come the conference championship games. Yes,
Speaker 1: it gets cold in Kansas City, and we know it
Speaker 1: gets cold in Green Bay. Yeah, Buffalo and Buffalo. If
Speaker 1: it turns, Kansas City would have to lose. But all right,
Speaker 1: that does it for mick shots. Unless you got Mickey,
Speaker 1: you got a final mix shot to wrap it up.
Speaker 1: I think I took all my shots, and if I
Speaker 1: took one more, it probably wouldn't have anything to do
Speaker 1: about football. So I'm gonna bite my tongue. Oh, let's
Speaker 1: just end it. Okay, let's let me get into it. Mickey,
Speaker 1: Happy Birthday to Christmas. I am not singing, but you
Speaker 1: know what, on my Friday column, I made it all
Speaker 1: the way to my last two lines before I couldn't
Speaker 1: bite my tongue any longer. When I was talking about
Speaker 1: why the Cowboys didn't play better this year, and I said,
Speaker 1: we need to quit lying to ourselves because we know
Speaker 1: what happened in this season and why they finished six
Speaker 1: and ten, And I said, and God, knows. We've been
Speaker 1: seeing too much lying going on already. All right, Well,
Speaker 1: we'll just let that lie there and then we'll let
Speaker 1: that marinade. We don't let that marinade. Yeah, and we
Speaker 1: will be back with a Conference Championship preview edition of
Speaker 1: Mix Shots and no telling who gets fired next. Oh
Speaker 1: and by the way, we also got the Dodge Bowl
Speaker 1: on Saturday night at and T Stadium. Hello. Oh okay,
Speaker 1: I thought you said Dodgeall Dodge Bowl. Yes, got the
Speaker 1: Dodge Bowl. Well, Riley Versus tied on Saturday night, and
Speaker 1: I will recap for you that for you on the
Speaker 1: next Tuesday on mix Shots because that's the game I'm
Speaker 1: going to on Saturday night. All right, talk to you later,
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