WEBVTT - Mick Shots: Full House 0:00:05.519 --> 0:00:08.080 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:08.119 --> 0:00:17.920 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is Mick shot 0:00:18.120 --> 0:00:22.120 screening live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official 0:00:22.280 --> 0:00:26.840 Dallas Cowboys at now here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls, 0:00:27.120 --> 0:00:34.639 and Nicky Spagnola. And oh what a Tuesday. It is 0:00:34.680 --> 0:00:38.519 inside the s WBC Mortgage studios at Ford Center, at 0:00:38.520 --> 0:00:42.720 the Star in Frisco and elsewhere Bill Jones with Everson 0:00:42.800 --> 0:00:48.320 Walls and Mickey Spagnola. And you know what day this is? 0:00:48.800 --> 0:00:52.400 I do know what? Anybody have any idea? This is 0:00:52.479 --> 0:00:57.720 what day is this? Mickey Spagnola. This is Chris Beam's birthday, 0:01:02.560 --> 0:01:11.160 January twelfth. January twelfth, It's Chris Beam, our producer's birthday today. 0:01:11.400 --> 0:01:19.160 How about that, a fellow Capricorn, I had no idea. Yeah, Christopher, 0:01:19.319 --> 0:01:24.520 and he's working. He's working on his birthday. He's in fact, 0:01:24.600 --> 0:01:27.320 he is working this show. That's why this show will 0:01:27.360 --> 0:01:32.040 come out flawlessly, because Chris Beam is at the controls, 0:01:32.120 --> 0:01:36.800 although he will not show himself on mix shots for 0:01:36.840 --> 0:01:40.160 some reason. And for some reason he won't. And Bill, 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:43.720 you want to know a strange oddity and why I 0:01:43.760 --> 0:01:49.160 remember this because no, why is that his birthday is 0:01:49.160 --> 0:01:53.400 the same day as my sisters and his brother and 0:01:53.520 --> 0:01:56.600 his brother's birthday rich is on the same day as 0:01:56.680 --> 0:02:04.760 mine in December. That wow, Now the years are a 0:02:04.760 --> 0:02:13.640 little different. But and of course rich in that scouting 0:02:13.639 --> 0:02:17.440 department has done yeoman work for so many years for 0:02:17.560 --> 0:02:20.880 this team and it's a rather busy time. Well, any 0:02:20.880 --> 0:02:22.679 time of the year is a busy time of the 0:02:22.760 --> 0:02:26.079 year for a Cowboys scout, but especially this time of 0:02:26.120 --> 0:02:27.760 the year, and especially with what they're going to be 0:02:27.800 --> 0:02:30.799 dealing with leading up to the draft. How much has 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:34.720 happened though ever since since the last time we talked 0:02:34.760 --> 0:02:41.880 a week ago, well, I have been solely disappointed. Once again, 0:02:42.600 --> 0:02:45.520 I did not get the defensive coordinator's job for the 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:51.200 Dallas Cowboys. I threw my name in the hat, but 0:02:51.280 --> 0:02:53.880 it was the wrong hat. That's why I didn't get 0:02:53.919 --> 0:02:56.880 the job. So the way it goes, it's just it's 0:02:56.919 --> 0:03:00.839 amazing how much happens in the first week the offseason 0:03:00.880 --> 0:03:04.840 and it just jump starts. Uh. You know, I think 0:03:05.040 --> 0:03:10.720 Mickey that especially well, I think for NFL fans a 0:03:10.760 --> 0:03:14.080 lot of times, this time of the year gets them 0:03:14.160 --> 0:03:16.239 riled up as much as any time of the year 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:19.280 because you're trying to fix your team now, and the 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:21.800 Cowboys have gone to work rather quickly and trying to 0:03:21.840 --> 0:03:25.040 fix that defense. Yeah, and I think for the fans 0:03:25.080 --> 0:03:28.799 out there, they everybody's a GM more so than a coach, right, 0:03:28.919 --> 0:03:32.040 so they feel like they can run this thing. But 0:03:32.120 --> 0:03:36.440 I don't think it was any surprise that the Cowboys 0:03:36.520 --> 0:03:40.320 cut ties with Mike Nolan as the defensive coordinator. I 0:03:40.360 --> 0:03:44.280 think we've probably seen that coming for quite some time, 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:47.400 and I would imagine, you know, the Cowboys were I 0:03:47.440 --> 0:03:49.240 don't think it was a thing, Oh, we got to 0:03:49.280 --> 0:03:51.960 the end of the season. Now we're gonna have to 0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:54.840 look for a new defensive coordinator. I think they probably 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:57.760 had their eye on what was going on on other 0:03:57.920 --> 0:04:02.920 staffs and who was gonna be available and who became available. 0:04:03.880 --> 0:04:06.680 So I think this was probably pretty well thought out 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:14.040 before deciding yesterday to hire uh Dan Quinn as the 0:04:14.160 --> 0:04:19.159 new defensive coordinator. Uh. They had had a virtual interview 0:04:19.200 --> 0:04:22.520 with him on Sunday Blue, and then when you fly 0:04:22.640 --> 0:04:26.200 a guy in in these circumstances on Monday for an interview, 0:04:26.600 --> 0:04:32.560 you pretty much know what's getting ready to happen, right right, No, 0:04:32.720 --> 0:04:35.120 I'm not I'm not flying in for an interview. I 0:04:35.160 --> 0:04:37.560 may not make it back home. So yeah, you make 0:04:37.600 --> 0:04:40.520 a lot of sense back, Yeah, I'm flying in to 0:04:40.640 --> 0:04:43.960 sign that contract. Yeah. Now you talking about being a 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:48.840 not being a head coach. Uh, that's what everyone was 0:04:48.920 --> 0:04:52.360 talking about, you know on social media. I mean the guys, 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:55.200 you know, not a good head coach, but as a DC, 0:04:56.120 --> 0:04:59.280 you know, he had some He's got some bones, you 0:04:59.279 --> 0:05:01.240 know what I mean, got some bones in his hand, 0:05:01.880 --> 0:05:06.240 and that Seattle Seahawk team was something that he's been 0:05:06.320 --> 0:05:09.520 laying his hat off for quite some time. But there 0:05:09.520 --> 0:05:12.039 at the same time, you look at what happened to 0:05:12.040 --> 0:05:15.360 the Super Bowl as a head coach and it just 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:18.880 doesn't bode well. So I don't know, guys, it didn't. 0:05:18.920 --> 0:05:22.120 It didn't seem like it took much thought. As much 0:05:22.160 --> 0:05:26.800 as McCarthy is just trying to find a competent coordinator 0:05:26.920 --> 0:05:30.760 that he has a good relationship with. He's not gonna 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:33.640 bring in anyone that he hadn't worked with before. That 0:05:33.800 --> 0:05:38.120 seems to be obvious. So U McCarthy seems to be 0:05:38.120 --> 0:05:39.680 a little bit of a homie, a little bit of 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:42.320 a homer there. He brings in people that he definitely 0:05:42.360 --> 0:05:45.560 knows and feels comfortable with me. He knows that doesn't 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:50.120 supersede I hope it doesn't supersede their their competence though. Well, 0:05:50.160 --> 0:05:54.680 he knows he knows Quinn because Quinn beat him on 0:05:54.760 --> 0:05:56.560 the way to the Super Bowl when he was the 0:05:56.640 --> 0:06:02.800 defensive coordinator in Seattle, and or beat him in uh no, 0:06:03.000 --> 0:06:06.880 beat him in twenty sixteen as the Falcons were going 0:06:06.920 --> 0:06:10.280 to the Super Bowl, by the way, So that's how 0:06:10.320 --> 0:06:13.240 he knows him. Uh. And and let's not Yeah, I 0:06:13.320 --> 0:06:17.520 understand the Falcons lost the Super Bowl, but they got 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:21.440 there and that's something that hadn't happened here twenty five years. 0:06:21.480 --> 0:06:25.800 So uh, kudos for him doing that. Also, by the way, 0:06:26.080 --> 0:06:29.360 he had beaten the Cowboys twice in a row and 0:06:29.640 --> 0:06:32.360 his first year as a head coach thirty nine twenty eight, 0:06:32.560 --> 0:06:35.840 and we will never forget twenty seventeen when they beat 0:06:35.880 --> 0:06:39.480 the Cowboys twenty seven seven and had like eight sacks 0:06:39.520 --> 0:06:44.120 and made a career for Adrian Clayborne with six of those. 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:52.960 So for right now, AH held Cleveland, Cleveland. Yeah, absolutely, Well, 0:06:53.040 --> 0:06:55.279 we we just we just we just we just we 0:06:55.400 --> 0:06:58.280 just just put him all the way up into the stratosphere, 0:06:58.279 --> 0:07:00.760 didn't we And he made a lot of Actually he 0:07:00.800 --> 0:07:03.600 went to the you know, he went to the Patriots 0:07:03.920 --> 0:07:06.760 after the Falcons, and then he may have gone back 0:07:06.760 --> 0:07:09.279 to Atlanta and then he's in Cleveland and so he's 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:12.560 just every year he just checked cash is another big 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:17.600 paycheck for thanks to Chaz Greeny. We'll look up and 0:07:17.640 --> 0:07:21.520 he'll be here with us next year. There. Well, you 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:24.000 know that's the way, as you know ever since, that's 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:28.120 the way it works. It's that familiarity and you know 0:07:28.280 --> 0:07:30.200 a lot of times that's that's kind of what you're 0:07:30.240 --> 0:07:33.560 talking about. It's not only with McCarthy, but so many coaches. 0:07:34.160 --> 0:07:38.160 It's the guys they're familiar with that that they will hire. 0:07:38.400 --> 0:07:41.280 And uh and even though he hadn't maybe worked with 0:07:41.360 --> 0:07:45.080 him before, Uh, you know, Quinn's been around a good 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:48.440 while and uh, as you talk about with that Seattle Defense, 0:07:48.480 --> 0:07:51.480 the Legion of Boom Defense had he had a pretty 0:07:51.520 --> 0:07:54.400 good run there. He was first there as an assistant, 0:07:54.600 --> 0:07:58.280 then left and then came back as the coordinator. And 0:07:58.560 --> 0:08:01.520 when he was the coordinator there, it was Super Bowl 0:08:01.600 --> 0:08:08.480 runs then two two of them by if we come out, Hey, 0:08:08.520 --> 0:08:14.280 if we come out this year, in another nickel defense 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:18.440 on first down, I'm gonna go throw myself off as 0:08:18.480 --> 0:08:24.320 somebody off of somebody's building downtown because I hope we're 0:08:24.320 --> 0:08:28.080 not going through this again. I look for more. I 0:08:28.120 --> 0:08:33.199 don't know what's the word I'm looking for. Uh, you know, traditional. 0:08:34.120 --> 0:08:37.160 I want to be more traditional here in Dallas in 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:41.320 regards to stopping people. All this this unconventional defense, it 0:08:41.440 --> 0:08:44.000 just hadn't been working for us the last couple of years. Well, 0:08:44.040 --> 0:08:46.360 if you if you look at well, you know, when 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:50.640 I saw who the other guys they were interviewing virtually 0:08:50.760 --> 0:08:56.079 Joe Went, Jason Simmons, These guys were passing game coordinators, 0:08:56.200 --> 0:08:59.640 second dairy coaches. But when I saw a guy that 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:04.920 was a successful former defensive coordinators, which those guys hadn't been, 0:09:05.400 --> 0:09:08.679 and not just in the NFL, but had a pretty 0:09:08.720 --> 0:09:11.160 good run at that one year when he did leave 0:09:11.200 --> 0:09:14.200 Seattle as the defensive line coach to become the off 0:09:14.280 --> 0:09:18.000 the defensive coordinator at Florida where they ended up as 0:09:18.120 --> 0:09:22.120 the eighth ranked defense that year. You know, he's had 0:09:22.360 --> 0:09:26.800 defensive coordinator experience, and I think, you know, the last 0:09:26.840 --> 0:09:30.319 thing the Cowboys needed is somebody young to come in 0:09:30.400 --> 0:09:33.800 and tutor to be a defensive coordinator for the first time. 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:37.839 They needed somebody established to come in, somebody that had 0:09:37.840 --> 0:09:41.199 a track record, somebody had skins on the wall with 0:09:41.240 --> 0:09:46.480 these players that would catch their attention when they reconvene 0:09:46.559 --> 0:09:49.679 here and whatever March April, whenever we get around to that. 0:09:52.160 --> 0:09:55.199 You know, it's interesting like an understudy that he might 0:09:55.240 --> 0:09:58.320 bring in with him, or you know, someone that he 0:09:58.320 --> 0:10:03.480 could pass the baton to. Uh, Joe Joe Witt might 0:10:03.520 --> 0:10:06.280 be coming along with him, who interviewed for the job 0:10:06.360 --> 0:10:08.360 since he was on his staff in Atlanta and he 0:10:08.480 --> 0:10:13.280 has a history with Mike McCarthy. Yeah, I don't think 0:10:13.360 --> 0:10:16.880 this isn't the last This isn't the last shoot of 0:10:17.720 --> 0:10:20.480 to fall here. Uh that you know, they got to 0:10:20.480 --> 0:10:23.880 bring in a defensive line coach. He's been a defensive 0:10:23.920 --> 0:10:27.360 line coach, so he probably knows people that he likes 0:10:27.440 --> 0:10:30.839 add in that position. In Bill's right about Joe went 0:10:31.040 --> 0:10:34.560 had coached in Green Bay with McCarthy, and you know 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:36.560 who knows what they do if they shake up the 0:10:36.640 --> 0:10:39.360 secondary and you know they may listen to the to 0:10:39.520 --> 0:10:43.000 the you know, the new coordinator if he's got guys 0:10:43.000 --> 0:10:46.520 that he wants to go ahead and work with Yeah, 0:10:46.559 --> 0:10:49.960 I think they will. I think they will. Also, you 0:10:50.000 --> 0:10:53.480 know the guy that was always standing next to him, uh, 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:56.760 and I think it was his DC in the Super Bowl, 0:10:58.360 --> 0:11:00.839 or at least he was a secondary coach. Is it 0:11:01.280 --> 0:11:05.400 Raheem Morris? Do I have his name right? Well? Yeah, 0:11:05.520 --> 0:11:08.680 Raheem Morris. You know, he's been with Tampa Bay and 0:11:08.679 --> 0:11:13.000 then he was a head coach and uh, I'm trying 0:11:13.000 --> 0:11:19.360 to recall on the ended up the interim coacher in 0:11:19.480 --> 0:11:21.920 my confused I think he was the interim coach in 0:11:22.000 --> 0:11:25.719 Atlanta for a minute. Uh, he's been around. I think 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:27.839 he went to the reds to uh at that time 0:11:27.880 --> 0:11:31.520 they were the Redskins, but the Washington team. Uh, and 0:11:31.600 --> 0:11:34.440 they were very close when he was there doing that. 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:36.600 I think he was they were close doing that Super 0:11:36.600 --> 0:11:39.439 Bowl run. That's right, that's right. Raheem was the interim 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:42.640 coach after Quinn was let go this year and so 0:11:43.200 --> 0:11:48.800 Raheem Morris has been uh with the Falcons since twenty fifteen. 0:11:49.000 --> 0:11:52.320 So he's been there the whole time uh that Quinn 0:11:52.360 --> 0:11:55.600 has been there, and you're right ever since prior to that, 0:11:55.640 --> 0:11:59.199 he was in Washington twenty twelve to fourteen. Prior to that, 0:11:59.760 --> 0:12:02.360 he was the Tampa head coach, Tampa Bay head coach 0:12:02.760 --> 0:12:06.120 nine to eleven, and the defensive backs coach prior to that, 0:12:06.160 --> 0:12:08.880 and he was a Case State defensive coordinator under Bill 0:12:08.880 --> 0:12:11.440 Snyder going all the way back to two thousand and six, 0:12:11.880 --> 0:12:14.120 you know. And I've seen his name come up for 0:12:14.240 --> 0:12:17.520 some of these head coaching jobs too, So they might 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:22.359 let that play out before he might bring in a guy, 0:12:22.440 --> 0:12:26.040 a guy like that. But look, at least dan Quinn 0:12:26.720 --> 0:12:29.080 has a track record. I mean, what he did in 0:12:29.160 --> 0:12:32.080 Seattle was incredible. Now, I know, I know, when you 0:12:32.160 --> 0:12:35.240 have Cam Chancellor and Bobby Wagner and kJ Wright and 0:12:35.400 --> 0:12:39.000 Richard Sherman and Michael Bennett, Cliff Avril and Earl Thomas, 0:12:39.040 --> 0:12:41.280 you probably got a pretty good head start on having 0:12:41.600 --> 0:12:44.560 a decent defense. But at least it's a it's a 0:12:44.600 --> 0:12:49.240 guy that is structured in a four three defense, not 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:52.000 coming in here trying to play a little bit of 0:12:52.120 --> 0:12:55.320 four three, a little bit three four, trying to invent 0:12:55.559 --> 0:12:59.600 reinvent the wheel when it should be pretty simple to 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:01.920 look at the personnel here and think it's a four 0:13:02.120 --> 0:13:06.120 three defense. With the defensive ends they have, they are 0:13:06.200 --> 0:13:09.600 not those outside linebackers that you need in a in 0:13:09.640 --> 0:13:14.360 A three four. Uh So I or you know, I 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:18.800 just think that the transition should be a lot easier 0:13:19.559 --> 0:13:23.800 with him and his track record those two seasons, uh 0:13:23.840 --> 0:13:27.000 in Seattle when by the way, they won one Super 0:13:27.040 --> 0:13:31.160 Bowl and lost one Super Bowl. Uh So he's got 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:35.800 a down and they should have won two. And I 0:13:35.840 --> 0:13:38.280 and I saw this note that you know they that 0:13:38.480 --> 0:13:42.040 twenty thirteen season, and they led the league in points 0:13:42.040 --> 0:13:45.280 given up, They led the league in past defense, They 0:13:45.360 --> 0:13:47.960 led the league with thirty nine takeaways, and that's the 0:13:48.000 --> 0:13:52.000 first time a team has done that triple defensively since 0:13:52.040 --> 0:13:57.320 the nineteen eighty five Chicago Bears. So, uh he had 0:13:57.400 --> 0:14:00.560 something going there. Now, obviously he'll needs the help they 0:14:00.640 --> 0:14:04.800 need personnel. But again, and I'll say it, and and 0:14:05.720 --> 0:14:09.600 people need to realize this, This Cowboy defense finished twenty 0:14:09.640 --> 0:14:13.520 third overall, thirty first against the run. And this was 0:14:13.559 --> 0:14:17.240 a defense the year before that finished ninth overall and 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:21.280 eleventh against the run. So I know they lost some personnel, 0:14:22.120 --> 0:14:24.880 but still the majority of the guys on that defense 0:14:24.880 --> 0:14:28.240 that had come back, and we're playing on that same 0:14:28.280 --> 0:14:35.720 defense that played decently in twenty nineteen I gotta tell you, Spags, 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:41.479 the way things are going around the country with the pandemic, 0:14:41.520 --> 0:14:45.200 and it's not slowing down. I think this offseason is 0:14:45.240 --> 0:14:50.360 still going to be extremely uncomfortable. I think it's still 0:14:50.400 --> 0:14:53.800 going to be a challenge for coaches and players to 0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:57.760 get together without having a whole bunch of protocol issues. 0:14:58.360 --> 0:15:02.680 That's number one. Number two. I think Dan might come 0:15:02.720 --> 0:15:06.680 in and change a whole lot of this team personnel 0:15:07.080 --> 0:15:11.040 to player personnel. I think he may try and get 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:14.520 some of his guys in that he may feel more 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:20.320 comfortable with, especially around the front seven. Again, things might 0:15:20.360 --> 0:15:24.600 be a little bit different. You talked about the that's 0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:27.240 not the last shoe to drop. I think I think 0:15:27.240 --> 0:15:30.680 as far as football personnel, that's also going to be 0:15:30.760 --> 0:15:35.320 the case, because he's accustomed to certain types of players. 0:15:35.920 --> 0:15:40.400 But it's going to be difficult to really manage trying 0:15:40.440 --> 0:15:42.960 to get players in and things of that nature, just 0:15:43.080 --> 0:15:46.120 as difficult as it was last year. So there's gonna 0:15:46.160 --> 0:15:48.440 be some challenges that he's going to have to face, 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:51.880 like the same challenges we had this passed off season. Well, 0:15:51.920 --> 0:15:54.160 I'll take care of one of his challenges. If he 0:15:54.240 --> 0:16:02.960 needs a defensive tackle I'll take number fifty eight from Alabama. Okay, 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:08.080 Barmore if he's still there with the tenth all right, 0:16:08.560 --> 0:16:13.000 Well along those lines, you know, Mickey, you talked about 0:16:13.120 --> 0:16:15.640 the talent that he had in Seattle, and a lot 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:18.080 of that talent was already there when he came back 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:21.640 as the defensive coordinator, but he was there as a 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:24.680 defensive line coach when they started acquiring that talent when 0:16:24.680 --> 0:16:27.360 Pete Carroll took over there in Seattle before he left 0:16:27.400 --> 0:16:30.440 to go to University of Florida as a DC. And 0:16:30.480 --> 0:16:33.680 then he comes into Atlanta and who did they pick 0:16:33.840 --> 0:16:37.640 in the fifth round his first year there? A defensive 0:16:37.680 --> 0:16:40.520 tackle by the name of Grady Jarrett who has turned 0:16:40.560 --> 0:16:43.520 out to be pretty darn good in this league as 0:16:43.520 --> 0:16:47.360 far as making Pro Bowls and so forth. And you know, 0:16:47.640 --> 0:16:50.160 and you know as well as I do, how much 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:54.560 the coaching staff has an input as far as drafting 0:16:54.600 --> 0:17:00.320 players goes and on this Cowboys team and the outing 0:17:00.320 --> 0:17:03.280 staff and Jerry Jones, Stephen Jones, they want the coaches 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:06.639 to be involved in it. And if he can pick talent, 0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:09.120 you know. The other thing. They picked linebackers pretty good 0:17:09.119 --> 0:17:12.520 in Atlanta the last few years as well, and so 0:17:12.560 --> 0:17:15.159 if he's that judge of talent, I think is a 0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:19.639 big part of being a defensive coordinator for this Cowboys team. 0:17:19.760 --> 0:17:21.880 And I bet that was part of the interview too, 0:17:21.960 --> 0:17:25.280 by the way, not only you know the type of 0:17:25.320 --> 0:17:28.480 players you want, you see what we have. And I'm 0:17:28.520 --> 0:17:31.639 sure he did his homework on what the Cowboys had 0:17:32.320 --> 0:17:36.760 along with just looking for the right type of person. 0:17:37.880 --> 0:17:42.440 And Hey, as good as that Barmore was last night, 0:17:43.119 --> 0:17:47.080 I liked his attitude during the interviews afterwards. I want 0:17:47.160 --> 0:17:49.800 somebody that's got a little oof to him, and he 0:17:49.920 --> 0:17:52.359 was like, yeah, we were the best, We're supposed to 0:17:52.400 --> 0:17:57.679 come out and win this game. God bless him. Hey, 0:17:57.680 --> 0:18:00.680 I spoke Nick Saban probably be there too, his head 0:18:00.800 --> 0:18:04.680 all week long, all month long. So yeah, that's kind 0:18:04.680 --> 0:18:07.720 of the attitude that they've had there in Alabama. But 0:18:07.800 --> 0:18:10.480 when you talk about how the draft is going to 0:18:10.560 --> 0:18:14.000 turn out, I'm hoping that the Cowboys are looking for 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:20.160 defense first this season. Let's look at trying to get 0:18:20.200 --> 0:18:24.440 that impact player, maybe even trade up and start making 0:18:24.480 --> 0:18:27.480 some moves. Because as far as offenser and offensively, if 0:18:27.480 --> 0:18:30.680 we can just of course get our offensive lineman healthy, 0:18:30.760 --> 0:18:34.480 that wouldn't be a priority on this team. Defensively, we 0:18:34.560 --> 0:18:38.439 have got I think our first three picks should be 0:18:38.600 --> 0:18:41.720 quality defensive players on this team, sort of like they 0:18:41.720 --> 0:18:47.360 did last year. The first four, the first five, we're 0:18:47.400 --> 0:18:53.000 on defense, right, second, third, fourth, And then they brought 0:18:53.080 --> 0:18:56.000 in another fourth at the end of the round and 0:18:56.040 --> 0:18:59.280 then drafted another defensive guy in the fifth round. So 0:18:59.640 --> 0:19:02.640 you know, everybody keeps talking about they ignore defense. Yeah, 0:19:02.680 --> 0:19:05.280 they picked Ceedee Lamb, but every pick after that was 0:19:05.359 --> 0:19:09.320 nearly defensive, except for Tyler Beannist, who's gonna be your 0:19:09.359 --> 0:19:15.439 starting center this coming season ever since? Did you have 0:19:15.480 --> 0:19:18.240 a chance to watch much of that game last night Alabama? 0:19:18.320 --> 0:19:22.400 I watched a bit of it. I'm gonna get Spags 0:19:22.400 --> 0:19:25.040 in trouble here. I watched a bit of it, and 0:19:25.400 --> 0:19:28.800 by halftime, I think by the beginning of the third 0:19:29.200 --> 0:19:34.080 I lost interests. And well, you didn't sod out Ohio 0:19:34.200 --> 0:19:36.920 State on the popcorn. We'removing the popcorn from the ceiling. 0:19:36.960 --> 0:19:41.480 So I actually did it, Bill. I texted Spags and 0:19:41.520 --> 0:19:45.160 I told him I am going to attack this popcorn 0:19:45.240 --> 0:19:48.879 on my ceiling. I got so excited. I didn't just 0:19:48.960 --> 0:19:52.240 do one room. I went halfway into the other room. 0:19:52.320 --> 0:19:55.800 So yeah, all right, yeah, and Bill, I couldn't got 0:19:55.800 --> 0:19:58.520 your popcorn ready. I couldn't. I couldn't help myself. I 0:19:58.560 --> 0:20:01.240 needed to text somebody. Saw I said, oh, maybe somebody 0:20:01.280 --> 0:20:04.400 that's been a defensive player in the NFL will appreciate this. 0:20:05.000 --> 0:20:07.680 I texted him and I said, do you think the 0:20:07.760 --> 0:20:12.239 news that Deante Smith won the Heisman Trophy made it 0:20:12.280 --> 0:20:18.199 to the state of Ohio? My son and I. I 0:20:18.280 --> 0:20:21.439 got so frustrated when he lined up in the slot 0:20:21.520 --> 0:20:25.159 on the left side and he ran directly to the 0:20:25.280 --> 0:20:28.360 end zone diagonally and no one touched him with the 0:20:28.520 --> 0:20:31.760 linebacker the same thing. Oh my god, are they gonna 0:20:31.760 --> 0:20:34.280 do they realize what this guy is? And it's just 0:20:34.440 --> 0:20:36.520 crazy that that's when I said, you know what, here 0:20:36.600 --> 0:20:39.480 I came, popcorn, I'm ready, I'm ready to take your arm. 0:20:39.920 --> 0:20:42.520 I would have been double teaming him from the first 0:20:42.520 --> 0:20:48.040 snap of the game. Somebody, that's what Hey ever sin 0:20:48.119 --> 0:20:51.000 I think it was Emmanuel Acho who tweeted last night 0:20:51.280 --> 0:20:53.399 after that touchdown where they lined him up in the 0:20:53.440 --> 0:20:56.080 slot and then that four linebacker was trying to chase 0:20:56.160 --> 0:21:00.879 him down the middle of the field. Said, linebacker, he 0:21:00.960 --> 0:21:03.760 used to just keep on jogging up to the coach's 0:21:03.840 --> 0:21:07.560 box and slap his defensive coordinator outside the head. Hey, 0:21:07.800 --> 0:21:11.760 you know what my son said, who is this linebacker? 0:21:11.840 --> 0:21:17.480 He looks like he's running in molasses nut. That's that's 0:21:17.480 --> 0:21:21.040 how But that's how quick and how good this guy 0:21:21.119 --> 0:21:24.800 Smith is. So he'll make and that's the quality linebacker 0:21:24.840 --> 0:21:27.239 that we're talking about him. He made him look like 0:21:27.280 --> 0:21:30.000 he was just an average joe. Yeah, I mean it 0:21:30.040 --> 0:21:33.040 doesn't There aren't very many linebackers they're gonna be able 0:21:33.080 --> 0:21:35.360 to run with that guy on the middle of the field. 0:21:35.560 --> 0:21:38.240 And so the Longhorn fans are pretty excited about Steve 0:21:38.280 --> 0:21:41.399 Sarkisian what he's gonna bring down to Texas. With the 0:21:41.440 --> 0:21:43.800 play calling that he had in last night's game. He 0:21:43.880 --> 0:21:47.359 had he had, he had it all working well. And 0:21:47.640 --> 0:21:50.280 you know, when you're talking about an Ohio State team 0:21:50.359 --> 0:21:54.480 like they played that Ohio State I used to get 0:21:54.520 --> 0:21:56.960 into arguments with Von Springs all the time about who 0:21:57.000 --> 0:21:59.920 has the best athletes, and he always bragged on the 0:22:00.000 --> 0:22:03.679 Ohio State and I couldn't argue against him. They always 0:22:03.720 --> 0:22:09.280 have such not just athletic players, but also football talented 0:22:09.320 --> 0:22:13.160 players on that squad, and Alabama and Sark made them 0:22:13.160 --> 0:22:16.240 look like they were just another team, just another team 0:22:16.240 --> 0:22:19.520 out there. And that's that's a quality defense that they 0:22:19.520 --> 0:22:22.119 were just running by all night long. Yeah, and I 0:22:22.200 --> 0:22:25.040 and then I kept hearing excuses about, well we didn't 0:22:25.080 --> 0:22:28.000 have this player or that player. And I said to myself, 0:22:28.080 --> 0:22:31.399 you know what, that's what happens when you play, you know, 0:22:31.880 --> 0:22:38.240 try playing eleven games instead of six, you know, five injuries. Yeah, hey, 0:22:38.280 --> 0:22:40.960 how about how about they lose their running Ohio State 0:22:41.000 --> 0:22:43.440 loses Trey Sermon, they're running back on the first play 0:22:43.440 --> 0:22:46.639 of the game. Well, if you look at his track 0:22:46.680 --> 0:22:49.600 record at Oklahoma and I looked it up for Steve 0:22:49.640 --> 0:22:56.200 Dennis last night, Huge Ohio State. I said, over three years, 0:22:56.200 --> 0:22:58.960 and he always was battling some sort of injury. And 0:22:59.240 --> 0:23:01.280 I love Trey Sermon as a running back. He's going 0:23:01.320 --> 0:23:03.280 to be in this draft. He's in. He's a guy 0:23:03.320 --> 0:23:04.919 that you want to look at. But he also has 0:23:04.960 --> 0:23:07.880 an injury history. And I looked it up and over 0:23:07.920 --> 0:23:10.679 the three years at OU he averaged one hundred and 0:23:10.720 --> 0:23:14.720 thirteen carries a season. It was always about the eighth 0:23:14.760 --> 0:23:17.520 game of the year that okay he's banged up. Now, 0:23:17.640 --> 0:23:19.439 well it was the eighth game of the year for 0:23:19.520 --> 0:23:21.240 Ohio State, and he got hurt on the first play 0:23:21.240 --> 0:23:23.720 of the game and right at one hundred and sixteen 0:23:23.760 --> 0:23:26.920 snaps on the sea. It carries on the season for him. 0:23:27.080 --> 0:23:29.920 But you're right, I mean, that's that was my whole 0:23:29.960 --> 0:23:32.560 issue with Ohio State being in the game to begin with. 0:23:32.640 --> 0:23:37.119 It was not the quality of the team there. Obviously, 0:23:37.200 --> 0:23:39.720 they've got the talent and they could have won the 0:23:39.760 --> 0:23:42.760 whole thing if things fell right, if they if Alabama 0:23:43.119 --> 0:23:48.160 would have had a COVID outbreak. But um, but they 0:23:48.200 --> 0:23:51.640 didn't face they didn't they didn't face the live bullets 0:23:51.640 --> 0:23:54.679 all season. They only played well, it was seven games 0:23:54.720 --> 0:23:59.240 before last night. It was six games before, five games 0:23:59.240 --> 0:24:02.320 before they played in the Big Ten. Yeah, yeah, right exactly. 0:24:02.760 --> 0:24:06.080 And uh and you have to play the games in 0:24:06.200 --> 0:24:12.040 order to qualify to get into the playoff in my opinion. Anyway, Well, 0:24:12.080 --> 0:24:15.680 it seemed that once they beat Clemson, you know it 0:24:16.240 --> 0:24:20.680 really like, okay, that shut up all the critics because 0:24:20.720 --> 0:24:24.360 of how they really have the Clemson and the biggest 0:24:24.119 --> 0:24:27.600 critic in Dabbo. And so when you look at how 0:24:27.640 --> 0:24:30.120 that happened, you kind of thought that they put all 0:24:30.280 --> 0:24:33.440 naysayers aside. But of course, if you don't win out 0:24:34.080 --> 0:24:38.320 then it's gonna pop back up and then here we are. Yeah, 0:24:38.440 --> 0:24:40.600 all right, and oh the reason I brought that up 0:24:40.640 --> 0:24:42.560 in the first place, Everson to you, did you have 0:24:42.600 --> 0:24:47.080 a chance to check out Patrick Certain, the cornerback for Alabama, 0:24:47.160 --> 0:24:50.520 who might be a guy that the Cowboys would be considering. 0:24:50.560 --> 0:24:53.680 How about having a couple of Alabama cornerbacks on this team. 0:24:54.119 --> 0:24:57.320 He's he's, uh so Tam the second? Correct, So Tam 0:24:57.400 --> 0:25:00.080 the second? Yes he is? That's right. Yes, Yeah, I 0:25:00.080 --> 0:25:02.920 saw Dad in the stands. Yeah, that was good stuff. 0:25:02.960 --> 0:25:05.280 I'd love to have him here. But they got to 0:25:05.359 --> 0:25:08.239 come in playing like he did last night, you know, 0:25:08.400 --> 0:25:11.280