Speaker 1: We're just talking about white people who dress like it's
Speaker 1: not cold when it's absolutely outside. If you have a
Speaker 1: take because you're from a warm weather place and you're
Speaker 1: not i'd imagine I'm from LA. I'm not impressed when
Speaker 1: people act like it's not fucking freezing outside.
Speaker 2: H Well, the thing about Vegas too is that sometimes
Speaker 2: it gets cold here too, like sometimes it'll randomly snow,
Speaker 2: And I just find that white people in general are
Speaker 2: just not aware of the risks of things, just like temperature, police,
Speaker 2: low hanging seat, it's you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 2: they're surfing, they're doing all the things to kind of
Speaker 2: push the envelope. So I don't know, I feel like
Speaker 2: they just kind of like being out there.
Speaker 3: This is impression of me walking around walking around town.
Speaker 1: Dir dirt, dirt, Yeah, yeah, you got you got the
Speaker 1: star from Mario. You're invincible.
Speaker 3: Nothing can touch me.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know police no.
Speaker 3: Given giving police officer a high five.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I dated a white man. It was terrifying.
Speaker 2: I thought I was gonna feel for free, but I
Speaker 2: was just mostly like, why are you doing that? Why
Speaker 2: are you doing that next to me?
Speaker 3: Let me catch your hair off the speed bump. I
Speaker 3: didn't think a school bus could go this fat. Hello
Speaker 3: the Internet, and welcome to season three eighty.
Speaker 1: Eight, Episode four of Guys. It's a production of iHeart Radio.
Speaker 3: It's a podcast where we take a deep dive into
Speaker 3: America share consciousness. And it's Thursday, May fifteenth, twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3: Whoa halfway through.
Speaker 1: Look shout out to it's bring flowers to someone day.
Speaker 3: Very vague, yo, they fell asleep halfway through figuring out
Speaker 3: what day? Three flowers.
Speaker 1: Someone. Someone also shout out to the old timey bank robbers,
Speaker 1: it's National Nylon stocking Day. Uh, chocolate chip day. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The first sist, yeah, never catch me pull some hosiery
Speaker 1: over your face. And all it did was be like,
Speaker 1: you look still look like a white person, but with.
Speaker 3: A yeah, yeah, it just looks like a slightly uglier
Speaker 3: white Guy's actually.
Speaker 1: A good disguise to break to put hosiery over your face.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not that old Miles, but but I mean.
Speaker 1: Like watching up movies, we've seen that trope over and
Speaker 1: over and every time like it looks like the fucking
Speaker 1: guy just with hosiery.
Speaker 3: They actually talk about that in that say nothing show
Speaker 3: about the Trebles in Ireland, where like one of the
Speaker 3: dude rolls up to do his dirt and he has
Speaker 3: hose over his face and like a big mustache and
Speaker 3: everyone's like, yo, we know, we know who it is.
Speaker 3: It's like it's like wearing a batman mask with a mustache.
Speaker 3: It's like, hey, that's a pretty distinct mustache. And the
Speaker 3: girl starts making fun of him about it.
Speaker 1: He's like, hey, I'll give you fifteen minutes. Go buy
Speaker 1: a shicty, put a blaclava on and yeah it's sober
Speaker 1: if you want to do it. Chokes.
Speaker 3: Well, my name is Jack O'Brien aka Potatoes O'Brien. Shout
Speaker 3: out to the Trebles and I'm thrilled to be joined
Speaker 3: as always by my co host, mister Miles Gray.
Speaker 1: I was breaking in the middle of the night.
Speaker 3: Can I go swimming in the creek between the mountains
Speaker 3: of shit and the so deep.
Speaker 1: I've been affected with something, something aside from the worm.
Speaker 4: So many children will die because I can't see the
Speaker 4: germs even though I know they're man his shit walk
Speaker 4: down every evening you swimm then more damn the water
Speaker 4: my mouth in my eyes because of one needs a friend.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm looking for, all right.
Speaker 1: Shout out Nick Sebretarianist on the discord for that Billy Joel.
Speaker 1: I was when I just had lightly in my brain
Speaker 1: and I asked Jack. I was like, night and then
Speaker 1: and then you do that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know, it's been too long. I truly
Speaker 3: loved the hell out of that song for like the
Speaker 3: first six months it was out, and I don't think
Speaker 3: i've heard it since then.
Speaker 1: I think the last time I heard it was when
Speaker 1: it was just playing NonStop in the eighties. And yeah,
Speaker 1: that's how I have the melody in my head. And
Speaker 1: I know it's like in the middle of the I
Speaker 1: go walking.
Speaker 3: In the in the middle of the I go walking
Speaker 3: in the Paul Simon Ladysmith, Yeah, there might be something.
Speaker 3: As I was singing, I was like, is this problematic?
Speaker 3: I'm feeling very Lady Smith Black Bumbazo. I was like,
Speaker 3: remember the Life Savers commercials they did, Oh yeah, oh no, no,
Speaker 3: win to agree Life Save Us.
Speaker 1: That was the wave bro.
Speaker 3: Is that the one where they turn the lights out
Speaker 3: and Thatt sparks.
Speaker 1: That's a winter green one was I think had some.
Speaker 3: Miles were thrilled to be joined in our third seat
Speaker 3: by a hilarious comedian, writer, actor, producer contributor to Reductress.
Speaker 3: Their comedy special Highly Intelligent is dropping in five days.
Speaker 3: Please welcome SHAWNA Christmas.
Speaker 2: Eh. Yeah, I was trying to restrain myself. I wanted
Speaker 2: to jump in so bad with all your little banter.
Speaker 2: I was just the ladysmith. I was like, oh, yes,
Speaker 2: I remember that.
Speaker 1: Remember, yeah, exactly. Man. People were loving that. It's so
Speaker 1: funny how Paul Simon was like the gateway white for
Speaker 1: them to be like, hey, you least you know what.
Speaker 2: We still always need a white person to the true
Speaker 2: for us.
Speaker 1: It's really unfortunate, and it gets so worn out that
Speaker 1: it's like, wow, we're gonna take this ship to the
Speaker 1: point that savers commercial. Ah man, this okay, fine, at
Speaker 1: least they got a check, even got more white.
Speaker 3: He made me think as a child that he was
Speaker 3: Chevy Chase and that you could call me out the
Speaker 3: whitest person in the world. I truly, I was like, damn,
Speaker 3: Paul Simon looks like the guy from Fletched.
Speaker 2: They do kind of look alike.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, he.
Speaker 3: Had him lip sinking that song, and yeah, now they
Speaker 3: all kind of you know.
Speaker 1: When they say the form of a crab exactly, they
Speaker 1: all just turned or Chevy.
Speaker 3: Chase is from like deep money, like he's moneyed. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: his real name is not Chase. Yes, thank you. Like
Speaker 3: the I'm sure there's some Chase Banks back there in
Speaker 3: his lineage. So is it from the banking I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't know, but it's might as well be.
Speaker 2: Ah, yeah, damn it.
Speaker 1: I'm just getting in there. Chase Chase, rear admiral USS Enterprise.
Speaker 1: Damn these people are like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, rear admiral, he comes from rear admirals. I
Speaker 3: don't even know what the funk that means. But adopted
Speaker 3: by a Vanderbilt Oh my like adopted as in like
Speaker 3: we summer with them and they're basically my family.
Speaker 1: I have no idea.
Speaker 3: Wow, the Vanderbilt estate is basically my home away from home.
Speaker 3: Simply must go there.
Speaker 2: Wow. I had some practice talking like that or what
Speaker 2: That sounds pretty good.
Speaker 3: I was just talking about my summer planet. That's it's
Speaker 3: not an impression of anything my life.
Speaker 1: And where do you summer?
Speaker 3: That's our first question. We like to ask our guests
Speaker 3: where do you like to summer?
Speaker 2: And with you.
Speaker 1: Go homeward, do you transition immediately into your fall autumn hall?
Speaker 2: Oh, what's the same house I think.
Speaker 3: And lived until you've been to Hyhanna's Court in August?
Speaker 1: Is that where that's where.
Speaker 3: The Kennedy compounded.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's.
Speaker 3: Actually like the blue collar rich person estate the Kennedy's
Speaker 3: because they're Catholic, you know. Anyway, Shawna, we're thrilled to
Speaker 3: have you here. We're going to get to know you
Speaker 3: a little bit better in a moment. First, a couple
Speaker 3: of things we're talking about Miles great headline. America just
Speaker 3: got whiter by fifty nine people. Yeah, they have a
Speaker 3: the Afra Connors. Yeah, so we'll talk about that. Just
Speaker 3: Trump administration, not even a dog whistle at this point,
Speaker 3: but just being like, you know, we we don't like
Speaker 3: some immigration, but we're gonna we're gonna make sure which kind,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 1: We like, Like we would do a Nazi salute, but
Speaker 1: it hurts sales, it turns out the only reason why.
Speaker 3: And I'm getting tennis elbow. I'm getting tennis elbow. How
Speaker 3: much nazis slipping I'm doing still elbow?
Speaker 1: Yeah, my heilebow.
Speaker 3: No, that's sig Heilebow.
Speaker 1: We were summering this summer and Milebow just.
Speaker 3: My elbow is getting stiff from all the I mean
Speaker 3: when you see how Yon did that ship, like his
Speaker 3: arm almost came out of socket. He was very enthusiastic
Speaker 3: with it. And then we have a couple of stories
Speaker 3: where the theme is that CEOs are smart and we
Speaker 3: should trust them to run this country. Of course, have
Speaker 3: the renaming of Max to a drum roll please HBO Max?
Speaker 3: What Max? That was renamed to Max from drum roll
Speaker 3: Please HBO Max first place back in twenty twenty three,
Speaker 3: And we, along with everybody who was paying attention to
Speaker 3: that story, was like, that seems like a stupid, a
Speaker 3: stupid fucking idea. Maybe Anyways, they concur they're going back
Speaker 3: to HBO Max. And this is all being done by
Speaker 3: a CEO who makes fifty two million dollars a year.
Speaker 3: David's as fifty two.
Speaker 1: Million dollars, a million dollars.
Speaker 3: A week, that's right, okay, yeah, yeah, So when you
Speaker 3: think about it that way, like.
Speaker 1: Don't try and smear him, because.
Speaker 3: That's a million dollars that has to get him from
Speaker 3: Sunday all the way to Saturday. Think, you know, that's
Speaker 3: weekends get expensive. I'm just saying, when you're summering in Hyannasport.
Speaker 1: People struggling in this world. I put white africaners at
Speaker 1: the top, and of course close second as man.
Speaker 3: Think about all the pressure, think about all the eyes.
Speaker 1: All the all the projects he had to fucking kill.
Speaker 3: All the all the times that he had to watch
Speaker 3: Flea Bag with his friends and tell them to all
Speaker 3: avert their eyes so they couldn't see him jacking off
Speaker 3: on his yacht. That yeah, it was so funny. All right, guys,
Speaker 3: but just I have to tell the story every time
Speaker 3: in case people haven't heard it. He put on Flea Bag,
Speaker 3: a show that is like a streaming show, you know,
Speaker 3: that's his business, and was so scandalized by the opening
Speaker 3: scene where she's masturbating to Obama, that he pressed pause
Speaker 3: and was like, all right, listen, everybody in this room
Speaker 3: on this yacht, which is where they were watching it,
Speaker 3: We're gonna here's the deal. We're gonna just watch it.
Speaker 1: Great.
Speaker 3: We can't look at each other during the thing, which
Speaker 3: doesn't really make sense. And unless he was planning to
Speaker 3: start checking off the right people, look at you. We're
Speaker 3: just watching TV. That's well, that's no way to do
Speaker 3: anything other than.
Speaker 2: Yeah, stands next to the screen while it's the TV's playing.
Speaker 5: He's like, Okay, everybody, just chill out, and if you
Speaker 5: hear a funny sound over here, just keep your eyes
Speaker 5: forward that surround sound, that surrounds sound, that's actually from
Speaker 5: the show.
Speaker 3: Anyways, we'll also talk about the VR Revolution. Does everybody
Speaker 3: remember the VR Revolution?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Man, we're all gonna get those helmets and just live
Speaker 3: with those big, big, stupid helmets on our head, just
Speaker 3: walk around looking like we were just got off a
Speaker 3: motorcycle in the future. And instead nobody bought those and
Speaker 3: everybody lost billions.
Speaker 2: Of dogs, did they really?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I know again sad news.
Speaker 1: Actually let me sorry, I had to reorder my oppression rankings.
Speaker 1: It goes Africannors, then David's Aslas. Okay, all that.
Speaker 3: Plenty more, But first, Shawna, we do like to ask
Speaker 3: our guests, what is something from your search history that's
Speaker 3: revealing about who you are?
Speaker 2: Okay, so there's two things. I recently searched my own name. Sorry,
Speaker 2: I'm very busy, so I don't normally do that, but
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, let me see if it pops
Speaker 2: up like I did a podcast, did it pop up?
Speaker 2: But that's recently. Another thing I did search was blazer
Speaker 2: with genes and Converse women.
Speaker 1: I'm getting ready to go.
Speaker 2: On a sports show on the news on Sunday, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, what will people wear when they're on the news?
Speaker 2: Was talking about sports? A blazer?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Can I wear jeans? About my chucks? Like I had
Speaker 2: to find all the things in my closet because I
Speaker 2: found there was lots of great photos of people wearing
Speaker 2: amazing blazers with jeans, and I was like, oh, I've
Speaker 2: got options, But that's what I was looking for.
Speaker 1: I mean, mooks of the time at like a news desk,
Speaker 1: aren't people like flagrantly not wearing like the formal bottoms
Speaker 1: like they like, especially like at an anchor's desk, They're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I got jeans, the top looks like I have a
Speaker 1: suit on.
Speaker 2: But I think this show in particular, like I'm sitting
Speaker 2: I go away from the desk and I'm talking to
Speaker 2: like the sports people. We're sitting like those little like
Speaker 2: uh director chair kind of things. Yeah, so we do
Speaker 2: have to wear pants totally interviewers, But I don't think
Speaker 2: I want to see some of these dudes of basketball shorts. Honestly,
Speaker 2: some of these sooes are yeah, sixty year old sports guys.
Speaker 2: No thanks, Yeah, I work out a nursing home during
Speaker 2: the day. I've had enough.
Speaker 1: You don't see all loose shin hair, just like, why
Speaker 1: is it all on the shin?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Everywhereuse what.
Speaker 1: Do you say going on the news to talk about
Speaker 1: sports wise?
Speaker 2: Uh, volleyball. I used to play out here in Vegas
Speaker 2: and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Little blocker.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did middle for a little bit, and when
Speaker 2: I got to college, they moved me around because the
Speaker 2: coach didn't like me very much. He was a hater.
Speaker 2: But I was a middle blocker, mostly because you never
Speaker 2: get to hit when you play middle, right, you're just
Speaker 2: running around.
Speaker 3: Did you see a celebrity with the outfit on that
Speaker 3: you're like, okay, and now I'm good, Like a celebrity
Speaker 3: that you admire wearing the outfit or anyone who made
Speaker 3: it look particularly good.
Speaker 2: Well, I saw Kelly Roland. She was wearing a bright
Speaker 2: yellow blazer, yes, and I was like, oh, you can
Speaker 2: do that. And then I looked up bright yellow blazers
Speaker 2: and it was just like not it wasn't the cutest
Speaker 2: what she had on, and it was like trendy blazer.
Speaker 2: It just wasn't popping up. So I just went with black.
Speaker 2: I went to Ross.
Speaker 1: There you go.
Speaker 2: I'm poor.
Speaker 1: So either way, no one like the people are there
Speaker 1: to get takes and your expertise, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I want to take someone's job. I feel like I'm
Speaker 2: gonna go on Snoop Dogg this interview on Sunday and
Speaker 2: be like now I'm a correspondent.
Speaker 1: Sorry.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you should open the interview by the way saying that,
Speaker 3: By the way, I'm about to take your job.
Speaker 1: Sorry, and give our shake to the person.
Speaker 3: So good to see you, my prindesser.
Speaker 1: Everybody sat respect.
Speaker 3: The way, you know, like welcome.
Speaker 2: I know nothing about this sport, but welcome to the show.
Speaker 2: We're gonna wing it.
Speaker 1: Tout your heart too, like, oh.
Speaker 2: Goodness, I love doing that after shows. By the way,
Speaker 2: it's my.
Speaker 1: Fraid, Oh I do I do that too.
Speaker 2: It is think so thank you. It's really weird because
Speaker 2: we were like, you did a great job. I'm like,
Speaker 2: oh you think I do. I doubt myself so much
Speaker 2: even after I did a good job. I'm like, well
Speaker 2: you really enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: Oh so it is sincere. It is okay, okay the
Speaker 1: way you're a little.
Speaker 2: Oh no, I do it that way, especially.
Speaker 1: For years, I did a good job.
Speaker 3: All that laughter. You think that meant that I was
Speaker 3: doing a good job, like the crushing, the actual killing
Speaker 3: that was happening. That that felt good to you too?
Speaker 2: Oh boy? You'd I'm like, this is bombing.
Speaker 3: And and we're back, and I thought I should never
Speaker 3: do this again.
Speaker 1: And holy shit, I'm the best of this. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Fuck, do I think a medical episode together? What is
Speaker 3: something that you think is underrated? Shauna smacking people in
Speaker 3: the mouth underrated?
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: I think more people need to be popped in the
Speaker 2: mouth for stuff. Yep, I just yeah, people getting a
Speaker 2: little bit too mouthy?
Speaker 1: Who needs an adjustment? That inspired you saw someone who
Speaker 1: need an adjustment? Gesture broadly, governments everywhere.
Speaker 2: People on the internet. I don't know, sometimes my mom whatever.
Speaker 3: That doesn't happen enough.
Speaker 2: You know, people don't need to get bullied physically bullied.
Speaker 2: This online bullying stuff, Sure it maxses up your mental
Speaker 2: but all you gotta do is punch somebody in their
Speaker 2: mouth and they leave you alone.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is the cuffs.
Speaker 1: People always say, they're like, oh, you can tell this
Speaker 1: person has never been smacked in their mind.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You are out of pocket.
Speaker 2: You need to be slapped really hard on camera.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like Stepan Miller has never been pupped.
Speaker 3: No, because he's just shocking, right, one of the most
Speaker 3: smackable mouths.
Speaker 1: Yes, you want to too, Like there's there's grimy kids
Speaker 1: that go to Samo. Also, like you might fuck around
Speaker 1: and find out, but I guess not for Steven Miller.
Speaker 2: So man, he needs to get somebody with some temp
Speaker 2: some dusty times.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, or somebody give him a three hundred milligram
Speaker 1: edible ooh and be like bye bye, Oh what happens?
Speaker 2: Three hundred sounds like a lot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he will turn into Chevy Chase, or he
Speaker 1: will revert to his final form.
Speaker 3: Just blow some toad venom in his face, you know,
Speaker 3: like one of those just like super intense, like entire
Speaker 3: ego dissolving, you know, like just dose them with ayahuasca
Speaker 3: or something. Yeah real, yeah, here rose dose and then
Speaker 3: just follow him as he like tries to like find
Speaker 3: a place to be by himself and like put a
Speaker 3: therapist in there with him his wife.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, who knows what's going on, that's true.
Speaker 2: They're both bad.
Speaker 3: Also, Friendship has a great has a great ayahuasca scene that.
Speaker 3: Oh really, I'm excited. I'm excited for you to see it.
Speaker 2: Mouth is that on HBO Max.
Speaker 3: It is not on HBO Max yet. It's probably heading
Speaker 3: there at some point. But yeah, what is Shauna something
Speaker 3: you think is overrated?
Speaker 2: Being a great person, Being a good person? Yeah, the't
Speaker 2: a good person. I've been doing that for a long time.
Speaker 2: You got me nothing but disrespected, run over, disregarded, disrespected.
Speaker 2: So yeah, my punch people in the mouthing. They kind
Speaker 2: of go hand in hand, right.
Speaker 1: Are you in your villain era now?
Speaker 2: I'm trying to get there. Yeah, I'm working on it.
Speaker 1: You seem like a nice person, Sean I am.
Speaker 2: It's because I'm tall.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and you think that. I mean that. That
Speaker 1: probably gave you thick enough skin to bend to comedy
Speaker 1: and deal with people who want to have opinions about you.
Speaker 2: But yeah, but you don't want to scare them. It's
Speaker 2: you're six foot three, black lady walking around. People are terrified,
Speaker 2: so you work extra hard to make sure they're not
Speaker 2: scared of you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, when I should be
Speaker 2: like all the time, you know, but yeah, I'm a
Speaker 2: gentle giant. See I'm gentle. You can pet me.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, Wow, that's true.
Speaker 3: Is that an assumption that people make that you're a
Speaker 3: good person because you're tall.
Speaker 2: No. I think that's something that tall people do to
Speaker 2: make sure that we com by day other people's spear
Speaker 2: of us by being nice. I don't think they assume
Speaker 2: were nice. They're always like, oh, I'd hate to get
Speaker 2: in a fight with you. I'm like, why, I've never
Speaker 2: never fought before.
Speaker 3: Why are we talking about fighting each other? That's so
Speaker 3: immediately immediately.
Speaker 1: All this kid, you grew up with it, And were
Speaker 1: they nice?
Speaker 2: My brother he's six eight and a half and he's nice.
Speaker 1: Nice, or he's publicly nice, and then behind closed doors, no.
Speaker 2: He's actually just a really nice kind of aloof dude,
Speaker 2: very much like he's an engineer.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, right.
Speaker 2: He went through a divorce for like five years, not
Speaker 2: once that he'd like try to strangle this bitch she was.
Speaker 2: He was just like, hey, we just go to another
Speaker 2: deposition and wait, I'm like, why aren't you angry? You know,
Speaker 2: that's just kind of what it is. I'm like, I
Speaker 2: don't like her. I will beat her up for you.
Speaker 2: So he's just a very nice tall man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what about you, Jack?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jason Weather shout out, Jason Weathers really really sweet guy,
Speaker 3: very soft spoken, probably ended up about like six seven
Speaker 3: or so.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I had to do a big Danny in my
Speaker 1: high school sixth Danny.
Speaker 3: You got Jason Weather's nickname Shack. Yeah, yeah, he was white.
Speaker 3: There's also a big white guy named Hoosier. Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: you got you gotta give, gotta give the big dude
Speaker 3: nickname and Shack and huge.
Speaker 1: Uh any, real sweet guy, the sweetest, most generous dude
Speaker 1: and like genuinely too. So it's like if y'all know
Speaker 1: like a just genuinely nasty, tall big guy. Yeah, an
Speaker 1: athlete and like celebrity. I'd love to hear about that
Speaker 1: because I feel like it's always like the people maybe
Speaker 1: on the shorter end, who are like wor file.
Speaker 2: We'll see, that's my problem because deep down I am
Speaker 2: not a nice person. I don't want to help.
Speaker 1: You a nice person.
Speaker 3: One of my favorite time I just came right out
Speaker 3: and said I'm not a nice person.
Speaker 1: Some things about me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a grocery store. Someone's like, excuse me, can't
Speaker 2: you like, no, I don't work here, right? Why are
Speaker 2: you assuming I have to help you? And then I'm like, well,
Speaker 2: you gotta do it, because otherwise I was going to
Speaker 2: be thinking you're mean. Where I am helping some old
Speaker 2: lady get the Cashi Golian crunch off the top shelf.
Speaker 1: She's like the one with the red berries. Actually, could
Speaker 1: you come back? So you know I see you as
Speaker 1: a representative of black people.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, I'm want to tell my friends that
Speaker 2: you guys are actually nice.
Speaker 3: You come with me over to this other aisle.
Speaker 1: Get hold my grocer, help to my car? Yeah, host
Speaker 1: about this on on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, someone's second of video next door.
Speaker 3: Oh my god. All right, let's take a quick break
Speaker 3: and we'll be right back to talking about some news.
Speaker 3: And we're back and Miles and I are now recording.
Speaker 3: You may have noticed some audio hiccups.
Speaker 1: I don't think. I think justice zoom audio, I know.
Speaker 3: But they well, you're gonna be we won't be able
Speaker 3: to hear you sometimes because you got gated. So I
Speaker 3: will let the I will let the people.
Speaker 1: Know, Let the people know. Look, that was total user
Speaker 1: error on the on our part. Guys. This is a
Speaker 1: second rate podcast and for them.
Speaker 3: But now you're getting the rich sonor Dulphins of our voices.
Speaker 1: Is dulcet deep? I don't know. I just used to
Speaker 1: hearing dulcet tones and I don't know. Actually the definition
Speaker 1: of dulcet no clue, dulcet sweet. Oh, just means sweet
Speaker 1: or soothing. So up to the listener.
Speaker 3: Well, but the important thing is they did here. You
Speaker 3: hit those high notes on Billy Joel I hope.
Speaker 1: So yeah, all right, let's.
Speaker 3: Talk about africannors. Trump and Team Trump and co. Have
Speaker 3: been talking a lot about the you know, they're just
Speaker 3: worried about immigrants and they want to open the borders
Speaker 3: as much as they can to help them out. Seems
Speaker 3: to be the message that they're putting out there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, as long as your point. Yeah, we've heard
Speaker 1: this from Elon Stephen Miller, Trump himself. It's like just
Speaker 1: the plight of the Afrikaaner, you know in South Africa. Yes,
Speaker 1: those Africanners, the ones that ruled apartheid South Africa, that them,
Speaker 1: they are v v worried about them and they're welling
Speaker 1: and I don't know if you heard what the real
Speaker 1: genocide is happening to them. Oh yes, they've been saying
Speaker 1: these people are facing an existential threat, are they though, Nope,
Speaker 1: this is just one of those racist myths that gets peddled,
Speaker 1: you know, for a while. It's all based in the
Speaker 1: grievances of like white South Africans after the end of apartheid,
Speaker 1: and currently the latest talking point is that the black
Speaker 1: government of South Africa is taking their land and giving
Speaker 1: it to black people. This is just what are they doing.
Speaker 1: That's what we used to do them, That's really all.
Speaker 1: It's always this shit. It's always the fear of what
Speaker 1: we did to them they're gonna do to us. And
Speaker 1: then they try and wrap it up in some kind
Speaker 1: of weird victimhood complex. We've seen it a hundred times.
Speaker 1: Maybe we live we live in the place that does
Speaker 1: it the best. But again they talk about there's this
Speaker 1: like this law specifically that they say is allowing enabling
Speaker 1: the government to take land from white people. Again, the
Speaker 1: President of South Africa has reiterated many times, as have
Speaker 1: many other experts on the lots like this is not
Speaker 1: just some land grab bill. That people can just take
Speaker 1: land willy nilly, Like maybe y'all did again quote the law.
Speaker 1: I don't know a historic example, but where would that
Speaker 1: have happened where the indigenous people have had their land
Speaker 1: taken from white settlers Anyway, I don't know. It's very
Speaker 1: hard to wrap my head around. I don't have a
Speaker 1: lot of historical context for that. But again they say
Speaker 1: the law quote allows for expropriation in cases when the
Speaker 1: land is not being used or there's a public interest
Speaker 1: in its redistribution, similar to eminent domain laws in the US.
Speaker 1: It's not Hi, this is mine now, sorry, peace out.
Speaker 1: That's how settlers do things. Yeah, that's how settlers do things.
Speaker 1: And now a whopping fifty nine people have escaped this
Speaker 1: tyrannical government and arrives in Virginia, which is kind of
Speaker 1: fitting to escape the fake genocide in order to start
Speaker 1: life over in a new country that also ignores its
Speaker 1: past sins again people of African descent. So you wonder, like,
Speaker 1: why is that number so low fifty nine people? It's
Speaker 1: because white South Africans themselves aren't. They are not under threat,
Speaker 1: and they actually don't want to leave, like they just
Speaker 1: found a few people who are like, man, I kind
Speaker 1: of kind of burnt the spot over here. Maybe I
Speaker 1: can start off Virginia. Maybe that's fine.
Speaker 3: They found white people with a trumped up grievance, that's crazy.
Speaker 3: Where do they find these?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I mean I think a lot of people
Speaker 1: like when they talk, because you know, a lot of
Speaker 1: journalists have spoken to white South Africans and been like,
Speaker 1: what do you think of this? Like do you need
Speaker 1: to leave? And people are like, you know, like in
Speaker 1: many ways, like life's better since apartheid ended. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you've, ah, I don't know if you've seen
Speaker 1: the fucking stats on this inequality we've got over here.
Speaker 1: But whites in South Africa account for about seven percent
Speaker 1: seven point three percent of the population. They own about
Speaker 1: half of the land. Seven percent owns half of the
Speaker 1: land and nothing has been confiscated. And white unemployment is
Speaker 1: around seven percent. With the national numbers for you know,
Speaker 1: including black people African people, they are thirty percent. That's
Speaker 1: thirty that's what the unemployment is when you are not
Speaker 1: white in South Africa. Also, crime rate, crime rate, it
Speaker 1: must be high. If these people are they need refugee status.
Speaker 1: The crime rates are again much lower in white suburbs
Speaker 1: than where the black townships are. So again, it's all this,
Speaker 1: it's all rooted in this idea that we even see
Speaker 1: after twenty twenty and people were like, yeah, we maybe
Speaker 1: need to have a can we try to have a
Speaker 1: reckoning with chattel slavery? That anything that resembles any kind
Speaker 1: of trying to rebalance the scales at the expense of
Speaker 1: white people is immediately morphed into Yeah, we are being attacked,
Speaker 1: they are taking everything from us. We're all gonna die.
Speaker 1: Somebody save us, please.
Speaker 3: For asking that question right there. The punishment is twenty
Speaker 3: years of just open Nazism, just asking if there's a
Speaker 3: anything that we should do to address the historic inequality.
Speaker 3: The backlash to that, unfortunately, will be a twenty year
Speaker 3: slide into fascism.
Speaker 1: You should have known better.
Speaker 3: Sorry, sorry, you can't ask You can't ask that one question. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: can't do that for a month in the summer on Maine.
Speaker 3: You gotta you gotta Yeah. Yeah, that's that's gonna be
Speaker 3: twenty years of where we're just gonna be nazis Na sliding.
Speaker 2: Yeah, why didn't they send them to like, I don't know,
Speaker 2: Alabama or something why they sent us to Virginia.
Speaker 3: Well, Virginia, as you know, hasn't problem very special place
Speaker 3: right in the Confederacy.
Speaker 1: I mean again, this is just like what this is,
Speaker 1: This comes at a moment right where this we're actually
Speaker 1: dealing with the legitimate existential stakes for immigrants in this country,
Speaker 1: refugees in this country, people who are seeking refuge in
Speaker 1: other countries. You know, like they just from you removed
Speaker 1: protected status for Afghans who can here, like the people
Speaker 1: who risk their lives to work with the American Empire
Speaker 1: during the fucking wars. Now they're like, sorry, turning our
Speaker 1: backs on you. Thanks for helping us out with that
Speaker 1: absolutely meaningless war that destroyed an entire region. But yeah,
Speaker 1: we're also we're going to completely go back on any
Speaker 1: agreement we have, like think about Haitian people, Congolese, like
Speaker 1: the list goes on and on and on. But again,
Speaker 1: that is the point of all these policies. It's the
Speaker 1: absurd cruelty of it all to show people like you
Speaker 1: can't do shit about it, and watch we will play
Speaker 1: in your face and we will make a mockery of
Speaker 1: all of this because we're in charge of we're white okay, yeah, sorry,
Speaker 1: sorry to.
Speaker 3: Put a siren on top of the white supremacy. Like
Speaker 3: that seems to be the thing I used to be
Speaker 3: for the Republican Party prior to Trump, it was like
Speaker 3: quietly white supremacist and the Democratic Party, you know, quietly
Speaker 3: white supremacists in a lot of ways. And then now
Speaker 3: it's just finding different ways to say the thing without
Speaker 3: overtly saying it right, without actually hiling. Oh wait, sorry,
Speaker 3: they do do that now, but not that is just
Speaker 3: a gesture of one's heart going out to.
Speaker 1: And this hil level. Yeah, exactly, exactly.
Speaker 2: Well, they did say that those Afrikaaners are easily to
Speaker 2: assimilate to America. Yeah, that's why they brought them here,
Speaker 2: because they're white, and so they'll just automatically show up
Speaker 2: and be racist immediately, right they're.
Speaker 1: Like they do. It's like, oh, oh, we don't use
Speaker 1: the K word. Here is the N word. They don't
Speaker 1: off and they are going to be like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: they've never heard of that term. Yeah, you should actually
Speaker 1: be using this word that starts with end when you're
Speaker 1: in this country. They don't know, they're not are racists,
Speaker 1: aren't as cultured. But then like even when you think
Speaker 1: about assimilate a lot of other South Africans. White South
Speaker 1: Africans they talk to they're like, they're like, I don't
Speaker 1: I mean, I like, I'm from South Africa. You know,
Speaker 1: my settler family has been here for generations. No need
Speaker 1: to leave. Also, we speak Afrikaans, not English, so I
Speaker 1: don't want to start speaking English. And I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: they're not even gonna talk American talk American learn to
Speaker 1: talk Americans. I would love to for that to get
Speaker 1: real weird. Or they're like, hey, hey, hey, what you
Speaker 1: fellas talking over there.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm playing on. I wantn't able to come
Speaker 2: here and then experience oh wait, actually we don't like
Speaker 2: any foreigners. You guys are weird.
Speaker 1: They're like, do you see them white people? They said,
Speaker 1: they're speaking Africans.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm laying on. You're going to come
Speaker 2: here and they're going to be like, actually.
Speaker 3: So where are y'all woke?
Speaker 1: What are y'all some wiggers or something?
Speaker 2: WHOA. I can't wait to turn the plane around. Oh
Speaker 2: my god, I cannot wait for the realife that they suck.
Speaker 2: We suck.
Speaker 1: It's there is one group that's pushing back against this,
Speaker 1: and it's the Episcopal Church. Okay Chapelians.
Speaker 3: They had out.
Speaker 1: They've been working with the government for forty years to
Speaker 1: resettle actual refugees in this country. And I mean, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: They had been working with the government up until this mockery.
Speaker 1: The head of the Episcopal Church, like congregants know, on Monday,
Speaker 1: when these people arrived in the US, they said, quote then,
Speaker 1: just two over two weeks ago, the federal government informed
Speaker 1: Episcopal migration ministries that under the terms of our federal grant,
Speaker 1: we are expected to resettle white Africaners from South Africa,
Speaker 1: whom the US government has classified as refugees. In light
Speaker 1: of our church's steadfast commitment to racial justice and reconciliation
Speaker 1: and our historic ties with the Anglican Church of South Africa,
Speaker 1: we are not able to take this step. So they
Speaker 1: just said, all right, well, miss us with that grant then,
Speaker 1: because we don't need it, because we're not doing this.
Speaker 3: I was like, your funding, see what happens you're funding then?
Speaker 1: Oh why because you want to listen to your little christ,
Speaker 1: little friend, to what he said about unconditional love. You've
Speaker 1: disgusted me.
Speaker 3: Somebody could just get a recording of what Trump is
Speaker 3: saying about these people.
Speaker 2: I really wish someone would do that. But I mean
Speaker 2: what Bob Woodwork gets like a tape of him like yeah,
Speaker 2: look and doesn't tell us for six years exactly.
Speaker 1: It's like and he says, yeah, he called Kamala the
Speaker 1: N word in twenty twenty, and you're like, I'm repeatedly,
Speaker 1: why didn't you? Where is this? He's like, oh, you
Speaker 1: have to wait for him to die?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Well also, but yeah, the first offer I got from
Speaker 1: Random House was so low. I'm like, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I got I got him on wax.
Speaker 3: The publishing industry, of course, takes Wednesday through Friday off
Speaker 3: during summer's so I don't know if you guys have
Speaker 3: ever worked with them, but they take their time. They're
Speaker 3: at a leisurely paced Yeah.
Speaker 2: It's it's even those tapes from like The Apprentice that
Speaker 2: people keep talking about, Like there's there's tapes like where, yeah, where,
Speaker 2: it's just show it till us now because it's he
Speaker 2: already won.
Speaker 1: Also, it's like, I don't know, do I even need
Speaker 1: to see that. I'm like, yeah, I know, I don't need. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's tapes I know, I don't need to see them.
Speaker 1: I know, I don't doubt that anything, his approval rate
Speaker 1: would go up with that.
Speaker 2: That's true, you know, that's true.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm surprised he hasn't done that yet because
Speaker 1: he's hunted, like he's losing more and more support. But
Speaker 1: I guess it's not. He's not hitting the new the
Speaker 1: red button yet.
Speaker 2: Got to call the black autistic kid an inward at the.
Speaker 1: Park, Yeah, exactly, started gofund me.
Speaker 2: That'll be how you do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jesus Christ. But yeah, that's such a perfect example
Speaker 1: of like how all of this works. It's like I
Speaker 1: got out of pocket with my whiteness a.
Speaker 3: Million dollars. This story does remind me of a historic
Speaker 3: anecdote that was undercovered in my history education that America
Speaker 3: had po German POWs during World War Two in Alabama
Speaker 3: and everyone was just like, ah, they're good, they're good.
Speaker 3: Ships they were they brought them back. Yeah, they brought
Speaker 3: them to Alabama. They had I think six thousand prisoners
Speaker 3: at one point, and it was not it was not
Speaker 3: a they weren't hard on them in the way that
Speaker 3: one might expect from a World War to prison camp.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh, they weren't putting them in hot boxes.
Speaker 3: They were not putting them in hot boxes like they
Speaker 3: were doing to their own citizens. Yeah right, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: or something about America that just you know, really like
Speaker 3: a white immigrant.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I think, hey, I think that Gearhart
Speaker 1: is pretty cool man. Yeah.
Speaker 3: It was like the Rommel like people that from like
Speaker 3: getting defeated in Africa. Rommel's core. They were like, I
Speaker 3: don't know, let's see where they're going with this. Let's
Speaker 3: give them a shot, guys, Southern hospitality to the Nazis.
Speaker 1: Did they go back? I wonder how anything like you
Speaker 1: know what we like this Alabama?
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then they came back and sent us to
Speaker 3: the moon, you know.
Speaker 1: Oh right, right right, yeah, yeah. I don't think any
Speaker 1: of the.
Speaker 3: Prison prisoners necessarily to the moon, but former Nazis that
Speaker 3: did get us to the moon.
Speaker 1: We're like, hey, man, you want Nuremberg or a nice
Speaker 1: new house in New Jersey.
Speaker 3: All right, let's take a quick break and we'll come
Speaker 3: back and we'll talk about some good CEOs who are
Speaker 3: smart and know what they're doing.
Speaker 1: And we're back. We're back.
Speaker 3: And so up, first we got this az As we mentioned,
Speaker 3: Warner Brothers. Discovery just announced that the streaming service Max
Speaker 3: will now be known as HBO Max aka the thing
Speaker 3: it was already fucking called before they changed the name
Speaker 3: to Max.
Speaker 1: What the fuck.
Speaker 2: This?
Speaker 3: Hollywood reported that the Hollywood Reporter kind of ate on
Speaker 3: this sentence, and they're right up of the thing. Originally,
Speaker 3: the service launched his HBO Max in twenty twenty and
Speaker 3: twenty twenty three, the company controversially changed the streaming service
Speaker 3: to simply Max, ditching the most venerated network brand name
Speaker 3: in television in television in favor of the most popular
Speaker 3: name for male dogs.
Speaker 2: Max.
Speaker 1: Come here, Max. Oh, that's the name of Matthew McConaughey's
Speaker 1: dog in A Time to Kill Oh, when they burned
Speaker 1: his house down, And he's like Max. And then Oliver
Speaker 1: Platt is like, Max is dead.
Speaker 3: Oh shoot, now imagine he's white. Yeah, what dude, the
Speaker 3: dog you just keep saying that?
Speaker 2: Man. I also every dog is white, to be honest.
Speaker 1: Also like that name too, I remember, I guess it's
Speaker 1: like a millennial. I also associate Max with like Cinemax,
Speaker 1: and I was like, that's what I thought it was.
Speaker 3: I thought it was like HBO and Cinemax together.
Speaker 1: Yeah, now you know you're.
Speaker 3: In trouble HBO MAX, and they were like, let's change
Speaker 3: it to just Max because they probably like focus grouped it,
Speaker 3: like had some misguided focus group testing. Like I love
Speaker 3: the story of a New Coke because it's just like
Speaker 3: such a great illustration of like how dumb these people
Speaker 3: are who like run these massive corporations and like you know,
Speaker 3: give themselves credit. They'll like rewrite their own story about
Speaker 3: like well, like I invented all this like back in
Speaker 3: you know, back in a garage somewhere. It's like all
Speaker 3: completely made up bullshit. Oh like one of twenty people,
Speaker 3: they ended up winning the corporate power struggle to be
Speaker 3: the CEO and then like wrote everybody else out of
Speaker 3: the picture, like that's how it always works. But they
Speaker 3: tell the story like their fucking you know, Horatio Alger,
Speaker 3: pulling themselves up by the bootstraps, and the reality is
Speaker 3: like that it's just people in a boardroom like trying
Speaker 3: to stay awake. They're so bored and coming up with
Speaker 3: like the dumbest fuck decisions, like the New Coke thing
Speaker 3: was based on. They kept like PEPSI put out this
Speaker 3: ad where they were like three out of four people
Speaker 3: like pepsi better and taste tests, and the way they
Speaker 3: did the taste test was they did little shot class
Speaker 3: you know, Dixie cups of the flavors and like that's
Speaker 3: so Pepsi just like made that up, and you know
Speaker 3: it was probably true. And so Coke was like, we
Speaker 3: gotta we gotta get ahead of this taste test thing
Speaker 3: and made new Coke, which beat Pepsi in the little
Speaker 3: taste tests, but nobody would drink it because it was
Speaker 3: only good if you took a single sip of it.
Speaker 3: If you took multiple SIPs of it, you would be like,
Speaker 3: my teeth feel like they're fucking vibrating because they put.
Speaker 1: So much sugar on.
Speaker 3: And it was yeah, yeah, this was a thing, but yeah,
Speaker 3: that that would actually be smart if they were like,
Speaker 3: what if we just like got back to our roots
Speaker 3: and used some of that lobbying money that we that
Speaker 3: we used to make America ignore the obesity epidemic. But yeah,
Speaker 3: so they just like didn't.
Speaker 1: They had to.
Speaker 3: They had to go back on it because it like
Speaker 3: wasn't a thing that people liked drinking anywhere except in
Speaker 3: focus group tests. It's just like, I'm sure there's something
Speaker 3: similar here where like they got people who are like,
Speaker 3: do you like the word Max Orbo Max? And the
Speaker 3: people are like, I don't know, like Max, I guess
Speaker 3: I don't like like just probably a misguided like some
Speaker 3: misguided like I think that feels like such a research
Speaker 3: feels like a Zaslobbian idea.
Speaker 1: That the guy would be like, yeah, dude, like again,
Speaker 1: just like how the Hollywood reporter is talking about like
Speaker 1: one of the most like you know, recognizable names in
Speaker 1: television entertainment and you go, don't need to lead with that,
Speaker 1: lead with a nebulous word like Max.
Speaker 3: We're bigger than HBO.
Speaker 1: We're bigger, right, well, I think because that was the thing,
Speaker 1: right they were mashing up Discovery Channel with all that,
Speaker 1: like now you can get ninety day fiance on Max, right,
Speaker 1: you know, and like they're like, so we don't want
Speaker 1: to confuse people, but I think people were more confused
Speaker 1: when the HBO name dropped out and they're like, well,
Speaker 1: we're not getting HBO then, right.
Speaker 2: I think the worst part too, was like we were
Speaker 2: hoping you guys would like fix the app or when
Speaker 2: you like hit the rewind, but we didn't shut down
Speaker 2: the entire app. Sorry, No, Like why didn't you focus
Speaker 2: on making sure it functioned appropriately, Like change the name.
Speaker 2: You can't rewind like ten seconds and the whole thing
Speaker 2: would just shut down. You're like, great, I guess I
Speaker 2: can't watch Natalie Grace.
Speaker 1: Yeah, are you Have you seen the dramatized version of that?
Speaker 2: I started watching at the end of day. I couldn't.
Speaker 2: I couldn't.
Speaker 1: I can't bring myself to watch it because the real
Speaker 1: thing is so fucking wild. I'm like, I do not
Speaker 1: need a dramatization when there's a full blown documentary, when
Speaker 1: you can look these people in their faces.
Speaker 2: Twelve episodes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's no.
Speaker 2: I couldn't watch it. But if on Max you wanted
Speaker 2: to go back and catch something she said, it would
Speaker 2: just shut down the whole thing. And they're like, let's
Speaker 2: just change the name and the color.
Speaker 1: I liked the purple. Yeah, you know, it's funny. I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure I still have that like dead app on
Speaker 1: my phone. Yep, I do, yay, keep it. I'm still
Speaker 1: with you. Oh I am it's weird. I'm like, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I got so many dead ass. I got Flappy Bird
Speaker 1: on this motherfucker that that was that game that got
Speaker 1: taken off the app store years ago, and people were
Speaker 1: like selling phones with it on it to be like
Speaker 1: I need flatpy Bird?
Speaker 2: What do you do on there?
Speaker 1: It was just like you tap the thing and the
Speaker 1: bird flaps and goes higher or lower, and there's like
Speaker 1: obstacles like a side scroller game. It's it's really nothing.
Speaker 1: This was like very twenty fourteen kind of shit.
Speaker 3: They had to outlaw it. It was like so it
Speaker 3: was so good that people were just like dying of
Speaker 3: exposure while playing it. Yeah, it got block I forget
Speaker 3: why it got blocked, but anyway, it's what it is. Wow,
Speaker 3: Producer Brier said, didn't some guy get killed over it?
Speaker 1: Shit? May I just remember? Is this shit was so wild?
Speaker 1: I was like, why are people losing it over flatpy Bird?
Speaker 2: I don't. I think I missed that whole area era.
Speaker 3: Yeah phones, Yeah, apologies to whoever got killed because that's
Speaker 3: the dumbest sounding ship to get killed over possible?
Speaker 2: Did they have the highest score or does somebody want
Speaker 2: to take his phone that had the game on it?
Speaker 2: And now I want to know details? Did this person die?
Speaker 1: Victor Now Research Goal tell tell Us tell Us tell
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Speaker 1: That's processing. I wish like when they like to your point, Jack, like,
Speaker 1: I wish they could just write these stories to be like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's an L for David Zaslov going back on this,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's not like, oh, he's
Speaker 1: they're rebranding it. No, they made a stupid fucking disc
Speaker 1: and they made a stupid decision and now they're like, yikes,
Speaker 1: all right, that's an L.
Speaker 3: You know, you know it's good. You know it's bad
Speaker 3: when like actual mainstream media like accounts of the story
Speaker 3: just keep like are actually like making me.
Speaker 1: Laugh, Like.
Speaker 3: It's a good move, A user wrote of the shift.
Speaker 3: The HBO brand is associated with some of the worst
Speaker 3: content ever Sopranos, The Wire Band of Brothers, Game of Thrones, Kurby,
Speaker 3: he has a deep deadwood in Silicon Valley. Good ridden,
Speaker 3: that wasn't the rap, that wasn't the wrap, Just like
Speaker 3: being like, yeah, man, good call dipshit. That's fucking brilliant. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but again, quick reminders as a lot of salary is
Speaker 3: a mere one million dollars a week, so fifty two
Speaker 3: million a year and HBO max lost when when he
Speaker 3: like kind of did this, you know, it was his
Speaker 3: like big swing in case you're like, but I mean
Speaker 3: maybe he like did the research and it actually made
Speaker 3: sense and it worked. HBO Max lost almost two million
Speaker 3: subscribers whenever branded due to confusion over the makeover. Oh wow,
Speaker 3: just straight up oak level fuck up.
Speaker 1: I mean, I just want to.
Speaker 2: Charge us more for like accounts now. They're probably going
Speaker 2: to raise the price when they change it back to
Speaker 2: HBO Max, Like, oh, they.
Speaker 3: Always want to do that ship and now we're bundling
Speaker 3: HBO into bas what. Yeah, do you want to upgrade?
Speaker 3: What do you mean isn't it the same thing? No,
Speaker 3: this is HBO Max now.
Speaker 1: And I'm sorry, I don't know if you heard our
Speaker 1: ceo makes a meager one hundred forty two, four hundred
Speaker 1: and sixty five dollars and seventy five cents per day.
Speaker 2: Woa. Wow.
Speaker 3: Sucks for him, actually, when you put it like that,
Speaker 3: that kind of that's crazy that he's able to get
Speaker 3: by on that.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I didn't.
Speaker 3: I didn't think I was going to yacht viewing parties
Speaker 3: to schedule. I mean, it took a lot for me
Speaker 3: to not cry doing that story about the Afrikaaners. But
Speaker 3: now I'm just I'm sorry, I'm just thinking of him.
Speaker 1: He's only making a hundred forty two so bigwo wow, Rand,
Speaker 1: I just want to I'm just I just I'm I
Speaker 1: want better for him because one day I know I
Speaker 1: will be there. I will be there.
Speaker 3: Thank you for the low price one Starbucks franchise a
Speaker 3: week you can, Bonaire. I mean, so yeah, like you
Speaker 3: said as they scrapped the HBO branding in the first
Speaker 3: part to advertise that they were also bundling Discovery content too,
Speaker 3: which was the company that Zaslov came from. And so
Speaker 3: it's just like him being like, well, people are gonna
Speaker 3: want to like really discoveries the star of the show.
Speaker 3: But I guess we could just like put it all
Speaker 3: under Max, Max the everything. I think the ad campaign
Speaker 3: at the time was like Max the only one you
Speaker 3: need or something like that.
Speaker 2: It was just like Brady Bunch of my streamer services.
Speaker 3: Right, It's like Max and X live together in my
Speaker 3: mind as like the dumbest fucking rebrands that nobody thought
Speaker 3: were a good idea, right exactly.
Speaker 2: So wait, is Cinemax still a thing?
Speaker 3: I mean? And they never really had original content beyond
Speaker 3: like a couple shows. They had that show Banshee that's
Speaker 3: supposedly really fun. Uh huh. And they had softcore Ye
Speaker 3: Shoe Diary like that ship must have fallen off a
Speaker 3: cliff when internet.
Speaker 1: Porn became a thing.
Speaker 2: I want to know what Emanuel's doing now.
Speaker 1: She was so horny, I know, and she was eating
Speaker 1: horny in space. Yeah, you know, I thought I thought
Speaker 1: Space would bring your libido down. But not Emmanuel Nope, Manuel, no, no, man,
Speaker 1: you well the of the world. Oh wait, no, this
Speaker 1: is that Jesus damn. Sorry. They got to figure out
Speaker 1: the branding on that one.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I thought cin max was still around doing something
Speaker 2: or maybe you got roped into or did it.
Speaker 3: No, it is, it's all part of It's all on
Speaker 3: the streams, the same streaming service. I just like, don't
Speaker 3: effectively like what they're doing. This is what cinemax dot
Speaker 3: Com looks like. It looks dire cinemax dot Com looks
Speaker 3: pretty schedules.
Speaker 1: This fucking channel is called motherfucking Max.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, movie.
Speaker 1: Max, I thought.
Speaker 2: And then they combined HBO and Max. But what's what
Speaker 2: is Lethal White? What's that show about? Oh?
Speaker 1: But then it is so it is also HBO. This
Speaker 1: ship is so confused, man, stop it, stop it. I
Speaker 1: feel like Michael Jordan and thatsay, stop it, stop it, David,
Speaker 1: please No, But he does feel like a Zaslov thing
Speaker 1: because his whole thing everyone's like, dude, this guy's gonna
Speaker 1: fucking come through and ruin everything. And all of his
Speaker 1: moves were like Daddy's home, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And now it's like, oh that thing no it's called Max. Now,
Speaker 1: all the slate of original program that you had brought
Speaker 1: up that was coming from like diverse creators fucking gone
Speaker 1: Daddy's Home like that just every his hands just fucked
Speaker 1: everything up on that thing.
Speaker 3: So well, it is like the propaganda of American capitalism
Speaker 3: is like these people know what they're doing.
Speaker 1: Like that.
Speaker 3: The whole thing is propped up on the idea like
Speaker 3: these are the smartest, most capable people. They know what
Speaker 3: they're doing. They'll never, like you said, like they'll talk
Speaker 3: so much shit about the decision in the Hollywood Reporter,
Speaker 3: but they're never gonna be like David Zaslov is a
Speaker 3: fucking clown. They what about like they would about an
Speaker 3: athlete for like fucking missing a free throw or something,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, right, right, But the mainstream
Speaker 3: media will never do that because it's so propped up.
Speaker 3: And so I do think it's partially responsible for like
Speaker 3: how we got to a place where people were like
Speaker 3: and we just need a businessman to lead the country
Speaker 3: because they're the ones who like make the right decision
Speaker 3: that make line go up, and like nobody tells the
Speaker 3: truth about them. That's the amazon. They're just fucking.
Speaker 2: Because they're rich. They're like this guy made money, so
Speaker 2: he a parent. He knows how to do it because
Speaker 2: he has buddies like, well, well he apartheid diamonds in
Speaker 2: his pocket.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, I meant what I mean. His great grandfather
Speaker 1: profited from slavery direct. Yeah okay, yeah he made he
Speaker 1: made all that money. Sure, sure, sure, sure sure. The
Speaker 1: Hollywood reporter needs like a stephen A Smith.
Speaker 3: Exactly, Like all these fucking CEOs need a Stephen A Smith,
Speaker 3: like Jim Kramer needs to be a person who's out
Speaker 3: there being.
Speaker 1: Like, this guy's a fucking idiot. Get them. It's smoking
Speaker 1: crack that you could do that name change, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's no.
Speaker 3: It's interesting that you're able to talk that way about
Speaker 3: mostly black athletes in this country, but not a white executive,
Speaker 3: the white executives who own the station. You're talking shit on.
Speaker 3: I guess all right. Just another in line with that.
Speaker 3: Another example of this is just the the whole VR
Speaker 3: revolution that was was supposed to happen. There's a clip
Speaker 3: from Prices Right that was going around on social media
Speaker 3: this week where one of the items was the Apple
Speaker 3: Vision pro and literally nobody had any idea how much
Speaker 3: it costs. Like the highest bid was like, I don't know,
Speaker 3: like one thousand, two hundred and seventy that was like
Speaker 3: the high one, and everybody, including Drew Carrey, were shocked
Speaker 3: to learn it was three thousand, five hundred.
Speaker 1: They were like, what wait, what do you mean?
Speaker 2: I want to hear this reaction that was at the
Speaker 2: Prices right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, those prices right.
Speaker 1: Without going over good luck, everybody, go ahead, here we go.
Speaker 1: They're gonna reveal it one thousand, okay, let's get to
Speaker 1: one thousand.
Speaker 3: Seven fifty okay, one dollars.
Speaker 1: Here we go. Here's the reveal.
Speaker 3: Three thousand, four hundred ninety nine dollars. People are shouting
Speaker 3: no in the audience.
Speaker 2: They can't even be happy for her. They're all.
Speaker 3: That price point is way too high.
Speaker 1: God damn. But yeah, just.
Speaker 3: Nobody could believe like it just was completely out of
Speaker 3: out of step with anybody's reality. Except for Tim Cooks.
Speaker 2: It seems like, yeah, it's like always just my rent
Speaker 2: in San Francisco for my you know, my one bedroom.
Speaker 2: That's just my Rent's easy.
Speaker 3: I can believe it again, like with the point about
Speaker 3: the mainstream media, like when it dropped the mainstream media
Speaker 3: headline five ways in which Apple Vision Pro will change
Speaker 3: how we work, A game changer in immersive learning. Five
Speaker 3: ways apples Vision Pro could transform education and training.
Speaker 1: Damn, I'm just sorry. I hate to get emotional gain,
Speaker 1: but I just crunched the numbers. That means David Zaslov
Speaker 1: can only buy forty one Apple Vision pros per day.
Speaker 1: That sucks, man, that's how That's how meager his south.
Speaker 1: I use a calculator, Okay.
Speaker 2: I was like, damn, this deals really yours.
Speaker 1: You imagine if I was like a mass Savannah was like,
Speaker 1: you gotta be doing something else, man, problematic capitalist math.
Speaker 1: So what did they make? That's one hundred and forty
Speaker 1: two that's only forty one Apple Vision pros. I can
Speaker 1: only I can only break.
Speaker 3: We see the crowd of numbers floating around his head,
Speaker 3: like that's TV show numbers. No, that's blunt smoke, all right, numbers. No,
Speaker 3: I'm smoking a blood sure thing. Numbers.
Speaker 1: I'm using a calculator.
Speaker 3: What sales for the Apple Vision Pro were poor, despite
Speaker 3: what the media would have had you believe, to the
Speaker 3: point that Apple had to suspend back production in twenty
Speaker 3: twenty four, leaving a factory full of tens of thousands
Speaker 3: of undelivered parts. Reminded me of the cyber truck who.
Speaker 2: Why did they think that people would be able to
Speaker 2: buy those?
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, I mean I remember when the iPhone first
Speaker 3: came out. It was crazy, like it was one thousand
Speaker 3: dollars and people are like, why the fuck would anybody
Speaker 3: pay that much for a phone? Like keyo Sarah right,
Speaker 3: And then people did, But you need a phone.
Speaker 2: VR, like it's entertainment, Like you don't necessarily VR to
Speaker 2: go about your day.
Speaker 1: But I think that's where they fucked up, because they
Speaker 1: acted like this was gonna change fucking everything, the way
Speaker 1: you write an email, the way you do this, and really,
Speaker 1: to me, I was like, the only thing I think
Speaker 1: could be fun is watching TV on it and it's
Speaker 1: like taking up everything. But even then they say, like
Speaker 1: the screen quality isn't great to even watch like a
Speaker 1: like a film. It's like sure, it's huge, it fills
Speaker 1: up your your visual space, but like quality, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like doesn't like the like you know, like you know,
Speaker 1: they always say the intensity of like the color black
Speaker 1: or darker colors against lighter colors, you get these like
Speaker 1: blooming effects. That would have at least gotten that right.
Speaker 2: No, you want to be able to do your emails
Speaker 2: better like this, that's what it's good.
Speaker 3: You know what I really like doing is my emails.
Speaker 3: Even there's a way to make that process like more interest.
Speaker 1: I want to use my hands.
Speaker 2: You don't even pitch that as a solution, like who
Speaker 2: you can send emails better with your eyeballs? Like how
Speaker 2: are you even doing that? Are you doing it with
Speaker 2: your hands? Like this? How are you even using the
Speaker 2: right emails?
Speaker 1: I don't, Tim, Tim Apple, you got I think what
Speaker 1: they should do is always just make a limited number
Speaker 1: and then see if people start flaming you for using
Speaker 1: that ship in public. Stop making it.
Speaker 3: Stop making Google Glass being bullied.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Google Glass would have learned way earlier because the
Speaker 1: second people started stepping out of that, people like, what
Speaker 1: the fuck are you? Who are you? This a demolition mane?
Speaker 1: And then like people I remember there were people fucking
Speaker 1: around trying to be like I'm using a vision pro
Speaker 1: like on the train. Some of those were fucking clearly
Speaker 1: a bit. But then you'd see other people they're like, Yo,
Speaker 1: this dude brought the ship to a we work and
Speaker 1: they're like, no, this is people are not accepting it.
Speaker 1: And also the price work sometimes utain.
Speaker 3: It's just it was only adopted by people with the
Speaker 3: inability to feel shame.
Speaker 1: There just yeah, or like the hyper apple stands like
Speaker 1: you know, like I know people like that, people in
Speaker 1: my family who are always I mean, I'm like this
Speaker 1: Apple thing. I'm like, you have no job.
Speaker 3: You have no job, sir, what are you doing?
Speaker 1: Like but if I had the Apple, I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: you won't.
Speaker 3: Bro, you have any idea how many resumes I'm going
Speaker 3: to get to send out. One of the things that
Speaker 3: this article in the information dot Com all these websites
Speaker 3: in the tech world, what the Fuck was cited both
Speaker 3: weak demand, high price, and lack of apps available on it.
Speaker 3: And in this case, I feel like apps is short
Speaker 3: for literal like applications, as in uses of the thing
Speaker 3: I'm holding in my hand, Like what what kind of applications?
Speaker 3: What are the applications for actually using this thing? Like
Speaker 3: nobody could figure that shit out anyways. Apple is full
Speaker 3: speed ahead on a more affordable version of the Vision Pro,
Speaker 3: which will address exactly one of the reasons that it
Speaker 3: totally flawed. But VR gaming seems like it's on the
Speaker 3: way out, Like Minecraft just ended their VR support. More
Speaker 3: than half of game developers were pulled and said that
Speaker 3: the VR market is currently declining and stagnating. And of course,
Speaker 3: the biggest VR flop visionary him the visionary himself, Mark
Speaker 3: Zuckerberg and his Metaverse, which lost around seventy billion dollars. Wow,
Speaker 3: seventy billion dollars. That would like seventy billion dollars would
Speaker 3: make you one of like ten years ago, would make
Speaker 3: you the richest person in the world. He lost that fine,
Speaker 3: and he's, oh yeah, he's still like buying Hawaii to
Speaker 3: make up like fucking volcan Hanno Layer speaking of people
Speaker 3: who have never been punched in the mouth. But that's
Speaker 3: why that's why he does jiu jitsu, probably because it
Speaker 3: doesn't involve any striking.
Speaker 2: He wants to, yeah, because I feel like people make
Speaker 2: fun of him a lot, and he's like, well, yeah,
Speaker 2: say some of my things. No, I know how to
Speaker 2: arm bar.
Speaker 1: Yeah. They're like, okay, get your body guards out the way.
Speaker 1: You want to catch a one.
Speaker 3: Sir metis chief technology officer. This is the person who
Speaker 3: works for him, claimed that the metaverse idea was a
Speaker 3: legendary misadventure, like it was a fucking Michael Douglas movie
Speaker 3: from the eighties people misadventure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what's so wild is like, you don't
Speaker 1: want a tech company reports a seventy billion dollar loss
Speaker 1: that means fucking layoffs in the next quarter because they
Speaker 1: have to fucking address that in their shareholder price. But
Speaker 1: like then it's it's so many people lose their jobs
Speaker 1: for less that you can be like, we pissed away
Speaker 1: seven what a legendary misadventure?
Speaker 3: Was a legendary fucking time dude, Yeah, he tried it.
Speaker 1: Talked about a bachelor party, yeah, right, right right. It's like,
Speaker 1: you know how many people got laid off after that?
Speaker 1: I like, no, man, like probably ten thousand or something.
Speaker 3: We ruined live.
Speaker 2: And it's never the person whose idea was right. Was
Speaker 2: it Mark's idea or was it somebody else was like, Mark,
Speaker 2: we should do this thing. And he's like okay, or
Speaker 2: was he like you guys?
Speaker 1: It feels like it was him the whole time. Ye
Speaker 1: Like there was a lot of because I feel like
Speaker 1: there are smart enough people that work it that kind
Speaker 1: of like I don't know, and he's like, I think
Speaker 1: we should do it. They're like, you know, Mark said it,
Speaker 1: and he was charismatic at that time, So oh, like
Speaker 1: that just model home you are do this. He's damn yeah.
Speaker 3: The reason oh no, yeah, it's and now we're just
Speaker 3: seeing everything shift to AI. It was they just have
Speaker 3: to like jump for one over future technology to the other.
Speaker 3: That it was like, right as the metaverse started to flop,
Speaker 3: Zuckerberg was like, you know, AI, I think is really
Speaker 3: Oh is that right? Gonna be interesting?
Speaker 1: And okay, so guys, everyone avoid AI. Then if he
Speaker 1: just said yeah the metaverse, guy's not saying this is
Speaker 1: the next thing, Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 2: They were doing they were doing comedy shows with VR
Speaker 2: during pandemic. I was like, you don't you have to
Speaker 2: have a headset to do it, and they were like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm like, we are unemployed.
Speaker 1: They're like, can you buy an Oculus headset? Like no, uh,
Speaker 1: I'm currently fighting a neighbor over paper towels.
Speaker 2: All right, I don't want to tell Dick jokes right
Speaker 2: now in here.
Speaker 1: This is weird.
Speaker 3: Well, Shawna, it's been such a pleasure having you on
Speaker 3: the daily Zeitgeist. Where can people find you?
Speaker 1: Follow you? All that good stuff?
Speaker 2: I'm on shawna Christmas dot com s h an and
Speaker 2: a Christmas as it's spelled. It's on everything. It's my name.
Speaker 2: No one stole it, thank god, I'm on the only one. Yeah, thanks,
Speaker 2: thank you. Uh, it's my birthday. Actually it's a stage
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody go check it out. It's super funny. It's
Speaker 3: really Yeah, thank you so much for thank you so
Speaker 3: much for joining us. Is there a work of media
Speaker 3: that you've been enjoying?
Speaker 2: No, I mean that work I would just say I
Speaker 2: was kind of enjoying the one hundred men versus debate
Speaker 2: going on. Yeah, then it became like racist, like one
Speaker 2: hundred men versus child support.
Speaker 1: I was like, this feels racist. Why are you?
Speaker 2: Why is it child support?
Speaker 1: Very quickly, very quickly, just like that, like see, now
Speaker 1: we can't play with this, No we can't.
Speaker 2: I thought it was just on black Twitter and then
Speaker 2: it got taken away and now everyone's just saying mean
Speaker 2: things about.
Speaker 1: I know, because I feel it was just that one
Speaker 1: tweet from black Twitter that was like I think, but
Speaker 1: they got to be dedicated. What's that? What's that black
Speaker 1: people having fun?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah support?
Speaker 1: What about if they fought Mexicans?
Speaker 3: And you're like, what the fuck?
Speaker 1: I remember seeing that? Wasn't that one of the replies? Jack?
Speaker 1: You saw that was like someone used like a Twitter
Speaker 1: ad boost like like promoted the thing, so it showed
Speaker 1: up as an ad as a reply on like the discourse.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, And it was like personally, I'd take
Speaker 1: like thirty Mexicans Mexicans over blacks, and that was a
Speaker 1: Twitter ad or x ad. It's like, what the fuck?
Speaker 3: Anyways, Well, wonderful having you, Thanks so much for joining Miles,
Speaker 3: where can people find you?
Speaker 1: Follow you?
Speaker 3: And is there a working media you've been enjoying.
Speaker 1: Oh man, and just check me out everywhere They got
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