WEBVTT - The Long Deathmarch To Midterms 0:00:11.840 --> 0:00:14.360 Good morning, peeps, and a welcome to Okay f Daily 0:00:14.440 --> 0:00:17.759 with Me your Girl, recording once again from the Long 0:00:17.800 --> 0:00:21.439 Island Bunker. Folks, I want to bring your attention to 0:00:21.600 --> 0:00:25.480 a story that I don't think is getting enough news, 0:00:26.200 --> 0:00:33.120 which is on Sunday sixty Minutes did an entire segment 0:00:33.159 --> 0:00:39.640 and story on the rise in depression, anxiety and suicide rates, 0:00:39.680 --> 0:00:45.080 attempted suicide rates and suicide rates of tweens and teens, 0:00:45.800 --> 0:00:54.720 and how devastating COVID nineteen has been, the quarantining, the 0:00:54.800 --> 0:00:58.560 remote work, remote schooling, and all of these things. And 0:00:59.360 --> 0:01:03.720 you know, listening to the kids that they had interviewed, 0:01:04.240 --> 0:01:07.040 there was a study that had come out a couple 0:01:07.080 --> 0:01:13.679 of weeks prior that asserted the same thing. And while 0:01:13.760 --> 0:01:18.160 we are dealing with another announcement coming out of the 0:01:18.160 --> 0:01:22.480 White House only yesterday that you know, we must prepare 0:01:22.560 --> 0:01:27.880 before we even get to fucking experience summer, that we 0:01:27.920 --> 0:01:32.240 are going to be headed into another COVID fall in winter, 0:01:32.720 --> 0:01:35.160 where they are talking about the fact that one hundred 0:01:35.200 --> 0:01:40.640 million people can potentially become infected with COVID. And we 0:01:40.760 --> 0:01:43.800 know this now, like these things are not a shock 0:01:43.880 --> 0:01:46.920 to us. But what I realize is that the persistence 0:01:46.959 --> 0:01:50.360 of this virus the lack of empathy, and I mean 0:01:50.440 --> 0:01:53.160 lack of empathy across the board, not just the assholes 0:01:53.200 --> 0:01:56.360 that don't want to wear masks and the people who 0:01:56.360 --> 0:01:58.840 have put other people in harm's way in the selfishness 0:01:58.880 --> 0:02:01.040 and all of that, But I'm really talking about the 0:02:01.160 --> 0:02:06.160 lack of empathy as it pertains to the emotional strain 0:02:07.080 --> 0:02:10.520 and mental health strain that this has placed on our 0:02:10.639 --> 0:02:15.040 kids and on ourselves, on adults. You know, when I 0:02:15.080 --> 0:02:19.680 think about as I was watching these kids talk about 0:02:19.720 --> 0:02:23.600 the isolation and talk about the loss of being able 0:02:23.680 --> 0:02:27.520 to socialize and the socialization, and I'm thinking to myself, 0:02:27.560 --> 0:02:31.480 you know, these were like kids that were, you know, twelve, thirteen, 0:02:31.600 --> 0:02:36.200 fourteen years old that we're entering into middle school, particularly 0:02:36.240 --> 0:02:40.200 that they were talking about and how devastating it has been. 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:43.440 And there have been other reports about how there have 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:46.880 been a lot of fights in schools, you know, and 0:02:47.000 --> 0:02:50.880 a lot of issues with student engagement with one another 0:02:51.040 --> 0:02:54.280 because of the anxiety and depression and all of these 0:02:54.320 --> 0:02:57.120 things that were caused with COVID. And when you pause 0:02:57.240 --> 0:03:00.560 to think about this, folks like not only where we 0:03:01.160 --> 0:03:05.040 and how and we have been just working through a pandemic, 0:03:05.200 --> 0:03:09.120 like all of this shit remains normal right when it 0:03:09.240 --> 0:03:12.519 is not not. I mean, there's a meme that comes 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:15.240 out every once in a while that says, I'm tired 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:20.360 of living through historical events every fucking week, right, And 0:03:20.919 --> 0:03:24.320 I don't think that we are taking into consideration the 0:03:24.360 --> 0:03:27.520 stress and the strain that this has caused on our 0:03:27.600 --> 0:03:30.640 kids and on ourselves and what frankly, we should be 0:03:30.680 --> 0:03:33.639 doing to manage and deal with it. So I want 0:03:33.639 --> 0:03:38.840 to share with you that, you know, while I continually 0:03:38.920 --> 0:03:43.320 talk about taking care of your mental health and centering 0:03:43.440 --> 0:03:46.760 joy and grounding yourself, I have found myself and I 0:03:47.000 --> 0:03:52.320 just had a really in depth conversation with my therapist, 0:03:52.440 --> 0:03:55.360 a really in depth session, i should say, because I 0:03:55.360 --> 0:04:00.920 find myself falling back into really unproductive of an unhealthy 0:04:01.040 --> 0:04:04.280 routines because of the level of stress and strain and 0:04:04.360 --> 0:04:07.920 anxiety that I'm under that all of us are under. 0:04:08.640 --> 0:04:12.160 You know, it takes a lot to be able to 0:04:12.240 --> 0:04:17.880 continually follow breaking news all times of day. You know, 0:04:18.240 --> 0:04:21.080 I had put my phone down, for example, I put 0:04:21.120 --> 0:04:24.599 my phone down, you know, last week in the middle 0:04:24.640 --> 0:04:27.599 of the evening because I was finished with work. Then 0:04:27.640 --> 0:04:30.840 all of a sudden, text messages, tweet alerts, Oh my god, 0:04:30.920 --> 0:04:35.200 the abortion you know decision draft being leaked, and I'm 0:04:35.200 --> 0:04:38.800 thinking myself, Jesus Christ, you can't even we have gone 0:04:38.800 --> 0:04:41.240 back to a place where you can't put your phone 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:43.559 down because you don't know what the fuck is coming next. 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:47.040 You don't know. You know, Tennessee decides that they're going 0:04:47.080 --> 0:04:52.359 to outlaw you know, abortion pills and Plan B and 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:54.600 all of these things. And then you know, you have 0:04:54.680 --> 0:04:57.680 this state rolling on another anti trans bill, and then 0:04:57.680 --> 0:04:59.920 you've got this state, you know, rolling on another vote 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:03.760 suppression bill, and it's just it's unrelenting. And when I 0:05:03.839 --> 0:05:06.960 think about the kids and what they're dealing with, you know, 0:05:07.880 --> 0:05:10.360 think about what the fuck they are living through as well, 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:15.560 right like we as adults are struggling with the ability 0:05:15.640 --> 0:05:20.160 to process everything that is being thrown at us every 0:05:20.160 --> 0:05:22.920 single week. By the time we get to Friday, by 0:05:22.920 --> 0:05:26.000 the time I get to Wednesday, and I'm doing woke Wednesday, 0:05:26.200 --> 0:05:28.640 I already feel like I've lived two weeks in one 0:05:28.720 --> 0:05:32.760 and it's only been three days, right, And so I 0:05:32.760 --> 0:05:36.800 imagine that, but on the emotional capacity of like a 0:05:36.880 --> 0:05:40.120 twelve or thirteen or fourteen year old teenagers in general, 0:05:40.480 --> 0:05:42.919 and I'm thinking, and we are expecting them to go 0:05:42.960 --> 0:05:46.719 to school and still learn and still get the grades 0:05:46.760 --> 0:05:49.640 and take the tests and just like move through, like 0:05:49.720 --> 0:05:55.839 none of this is happening. Our societies like obsession with 0:05:56.000 --> 0:06:01.919 work and I put school in that text is really, 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:06.480 I mean, aside from our democracy of crumbling, is really 0:06:06.520 --> 0:06:12.880 going to be incredibly detrimental to our mental health development 0:06:13.160 --> 0:06:15.400 of our youth and what is that going to look 0:06:15.400 --> 0:06:21.120 like when they enter into the workforce. Right, So I 0:06:21.680 --> 0:06:27.279 find myself really not focusing on the things that I 0:06:27.320 --> 0:06:30.120 need to focus on, like making sure that I am 0:06:30.320 --> 0:06:33.680 exercising daily, that I'm getting outside on a regular basis, 0:06:33.760 --> 0:06:38.080 because I find myself once again strapped to my cell phone, 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:43.360 strapped in front of my computer and hunched over right. 0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:45.920 And you know, I even had my neighbor the other 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:49.120 day say to me, had left a package, you know 0:06:49.240 --> 0:06:52.240 for me, And he was just like, have you left 0:06:52.279 --> 0:06:55.440 your house because the package has been you know, in 0:06:55.480 --> 0:06:57.880 the place that I put it for you for two days. 0:06:58.839 --> 0:07:01.120 And I was like, yeah, so thank you for the 0:07:01.200 --> 0:07:03.359 call out, because no, I haven't left my house in 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:10.480 two days. Right, These things really matter, And I offer 0:07:10.640 --> 0:07:13.840 up the fact that I am struggling because I can't 0:07:13.880 --> 0:07:18.520 imagine that I'm the only one that doesn't find themselves, 0:07:18.560 --> 0:07:22.280 you know, down a rabbit hole on Twitter, you know, 0:07:22.480 --> 0:07:28.080 down just a catastrophe hole on like what can come next? 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:31.680 And what my therapists offered to me, and I'm going 0:07:31.720 --> 0:07:34.080 to relay an offer to you as a way one 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:37.120 to speak out loud to myself but also to share, 0:07:37.200 --> 0:07:44.320 is that we have got to put ourselves on our calendars. 0:07:44.960 --> 0:07:50.120 We have got to pull ourselves back every day from 0:07:50.160 --> 0:07:55.240 this unrelenting despair because the shit is just going to 0:07:55.400 --> 0:07:59.840 get worse. It really is. There is no way around 0:07:59.880 --> 0:08:01.960 me telling you that in a couple of months all 0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:05.240 will be well, because I don't believe it. I do 0:08:05.320 --> 0:08:09.800 believe that things are going to get incredibly worse in 0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:14.120 this country. And if I am struggling, now, what is 0:08:14.160 --> 0:08:19.320 that struggle going to look like? And so if we 0:08:19.440 --> 0:08:26.440 all are not pausing each day, taking out thirty minutes 0:08:26.480 --> 0:08:31.320 for ourselves to get some fresh air, to do some exercise, 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:34.679 to do something that we enjoy, to start and end 0:08:34.679 --> 0:08:38.840 our day with things that we enjoy, and then create moments, 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:43.840 you know, in the middle to take a mental break. 0:08:44.600 --> 0:08:47.679 You know, whatever that looks like for you, We're all 0:08:47.720 --> 0:08:53.240 gonna fucking lose it. I feel it already. I had 0:08:53.280 --> 0:08:55.240 said to myself, you know, I wasn't going to get 0:08:55.280 --> 0:08:57.520 back on this hamster wheel. I wasn't going to get 0:08:57.520 --> 0:09:01.600 back into this grind culture. I wasn't going to allow 0:09:02.000 --> 0:09:05.160 the catastrophe of the world to suck me back in. 0:09:05.480 --> 0:09:09.720 And here I am not sleeping, waking up in the 0:09:09.720 --> 0:09:15.360 middle of the night anxious. And that doesn't allow me 0:09:15.440 --> 0:09:18.160 to do my best work for all of you. It 0:09:18.160 --> 0:09:20.440 doesn't allow me to do my best work for the movement. 0:09:20.920 --> 0:09:25.200 And so I think about the ripple effect that the 0:09:25.320 --> 0:09:30.280 lack of self care and attention and intentional joy and 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:36.360 intentional slowing of the pace does. And so I say 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:40.360 to you, if you have kids, and our caregivers to 0:09:41.080 --> 0:09:45.280 or our caregivers to children, or you're a teacher, figure 0:09:45.280 --> 0:09:49.400 out what it is that will get your kids to 0:09:49.440 --> 0:09:53.319 talk each day about how they are feeling. If they 0:09:53.440 --> 0:09:56.320 are artists, maybe they write about it, maybe they do 0:09:56.400 --> 0:09:59.240 a poem, maybe they do something, but something that allows 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:05.120 you to have some insight so that you can intervene 0:10:05.559 --> 0:10:09.600 before they get to a place where they're even contemplating 0:10:10.320 --> 0:10:13.320 taking their own lives. I say the same thing for 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:17.920 all of the adults, you know, do something that allows you, 0:10:18.000 --> 0:10:21.880 whether it is, you know, beginning a journal or a diary, 0:10:22.000 --> 0:10:26.480 if it's written, if it's auditory, if you're drawing, if 0:10:26.480 --> 0:10:31.440 you're writing poetry, something that allows the feelings not to 0:10:31.640 --> 0:10:36.880 enter this dark place but find an exit point for it. 0:10:38.240 --> 0:10:41.960 And one is that is healthy, you know, because that's 0:10:41.960 --> 0:10:44.480 the other thing too. We all have exit points, and 0:10:44.880 --> 0:10:48.760 lots of them involve martinis and wine and cocktail and weed, 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:51.920 you know, and these things. And I'm not passing any judgment. 0:10:52.640 --> 0:10:55.560 I partake just like everybody else does. But when that 0:10:55.720 --> 0:10:59.400 seems to be the only thing, the only direction that 0:10:59.679 --> 0:11:03.240 is a allowing there to be a bomb, then we 0:11:03.280 --> 0:11:11.560 need to take another look. Coming up next, friends, my 0:11:11.640 --> 0:11:16.720 Conversation monthly conversation that we are revisiting with our friend 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:20.280 the Reverend Mark Thompson, to talk about where we are 0:11:20.640 --> 0:11:24.480 as we make the long death march to midterms and 0:11:24.559 --> 0:11:31.240 what it is that Democrats need to do. Folks. I 0:11:31.280 --> 0:11:34.719 am very happy to welcome back to Woke a f 0:11:35.160 --> 0:11:39.079 daily my friend the Reverend Mark Thompson and host of 0:11:39.400 --> 0:11:48.480 make it plain, Mark, we gather today on in a 0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:54.480 week that I don't think any of us expected to see, 0:11:55.800 --> 0:11:57.960 and I shouldn't say that any of us expected to see, 0:11:57.960 --> 0:12:01.640 because we actually knew where this was going and how 0:12:01.679 --> 0:12:03.559 it was kind of how it was going to evolve. 0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:07.640 How are you feeling today? Well, first of all, good 0:12:07.640 --> 0:12:10.360 to see you, Glad to be with you as always, Danielle. 0:12:12.600 --> 0:12:17.120 I think that some of us felt and knew this 0:12:17.240 --> 0:12:20.679 was likely to happen, that the Supreme Court would strike 0:12:20.760 --> 0:12:24.839 down the road. We didn't necessarily expect to learn this way, 0:12:24.880 --> 0:12:26.720 and it may be a blessing that we are learning 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:30.920 this way. But the problem is, I think what has happened. 0:12:31.040 --> 0:12:36.000 So many people have been victims of the skies falling 0:12:37.080 --> 0:12:40.920 Chicken Little, and so nobody really believed it until they 0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:46.240 saw it. Our enemies have been organizing for almost for 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:50.760 forty nine years, NonStop, most of us, but I shouldn't 0:12:50.760 --> 0:12:54.400 say most. Many of us have given up since twenty twenty. 0:12:54.520 --> 0:12:57.080 Stuff's not happening fast enough. I'm not getting what I want. 0:12:57.880 --> 0:13:01.959 Biden ain't doing this, ain't doing that, which is not false. 0:13:03.440 --> 0:13:08.280 But we quit after a year and a half. They 0:13:08.480 --> 0:13:14.360 have not quit after forty nine years now. One of 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:18.040 our ancestors, Frederick Nuglas, said, the price of freedom is 0:13:18.040 --> 0:13:21.520 eternal vigilance. We don't listen to him, though. We listen 0:13:21.600 --> 0:13:27.000 to what is immediate, and we react and respond on 0:13:27.240 --> 0:13:30.280 social media that we don't control and are going to 0:13:30.400 --> 0:13:33.760 lose even more control of when elon Must takes over. 0:13:34.679 --> 0:13:37.320 That's that's how we make our decisions. That's where our 0:13:37.400 --> 0:13:42.040 ideology a lot of times is formed. And so this 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:49.240 is a big time l There's no other way to 0:13:49.280 --> 0:13:53.920 put it. And those who may not want to hear that, 0:13:54.040 --> 0:13:57.839 or may resent me saying it, I'm signing, but you 0:13:57.920 --> 0:14:00.160 got we have to join. We have to figure out 0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:04.840 of a way to join organizations, get involved, be active, 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:12.559 not just emote with words on social media. And I'm 0:14:12.600 --> 0:14:14.400 sister to the word emote too. I'm not talking about 0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:19.760 just women. I'm talking about men too. Men need to 0:14:19.800 --> 0:14:25.440 decide to step up more and defend women's bodies and lives. 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:28.920 This is crazy. And I read part of discipin Have 0:14:29.040 --> 0:14:33.080 you read some of this? Yes? I did? Hold it. 0:14:33.240 --> 0:14:35.520 Wait a minute, wait, wait, go ahead and say something else? 0:14:35.560 --> 0:14:37.000 What I look because I want to pull up something 0:14:37.680 --> 0:14:38.800 I don't want it to be bil there, but I 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:41.200 just want to find something. While I'm looking for something, 0:14:41.240 --> 0:14:44.760 go ahead, I will say that. You know, folks have 0:14:44.880 --> 0:14:48.280 been very clear right as we were going through the 0:14:48.280 --> 0:14:55.080 confirmation hearings for Neil Gorsch, for Brett Kavanaugh, for Amy 0:14:55.160 --> 0:14:59.760 Covid Barrett, they have all been very clear about where 0:14:59.800 --> 0:15:04.840 they fall on ideological lines. Right. This has never been 0:15:05.360 --> 0:15:09.359 about the rule of law and and and and justice 0:15:09.800 --> 0:15:15.200 and uh and equity. It has been about control. And 0:15:15.480 --> 0:15:19.640 to your point, they never let up for forty nine years, right. 0:15:19.920 --> 0:15:23.040 And what you see in parts of the opinion that 0:15:23.120 --> 0:15:28.120 I did read, um, is this, you know, clarification around 0:15:28.160 --> 0:15:34.240 quote unquote life. Right? Is this you know, discussion around privacy? Right? 0:15:34.280 --> 0:15:38.240 Because what what we understand is that the way that 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:42.560 Roe v. Wade was constructed was about was around a 0:15:42.680 --> 0:15:48.960 woman's right to privacy. It was not around equity, right, Um, 0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:53.120 It was not around the equity of women and pregnant persons. Right. 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:57.360 And so what what what they are not tipping their 0:15:57.400 --> 0:16:01.520 hat at are all of these others decisions, particularly those 0:16:01.600 --> 0:16:06.480 around LGBTQ people, that had been made with regard to 0:16:06.680 --> 0:16:14.480 privacy and not equity. Yeah, yeah, this is. This is 0:16:14.520 --> 0:16:20.640 from the draft that was leaked via Politico. The inescapable 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:25.200 conclusion is that a right to abortion is not deeply 0:16:25.280 --> 0:16:27.840 rooted in the nation's history and traditions. Now let's just 0:16:27.880 --> 0:16:34.880 stop there for a minute. Replace a right to abortion 0:16:36.200 --> 0:16:39.480 with a blank and just filling a blank. The inescapable 0:16:39.560 --> 0:16:43.600 conclusion is that is that a blank is not deeply 0:16:43.680 --> 0:16:48.000 rooted in the nation's history and traditions. On the contrary, 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:54.200 an unbroken tradition of prohibiting abortion or blank, I'm doing 0:16:54.200 --> 0:16:58.040 it for a reason now on pain of criminal punishment 0:16:58.120 --> 0:17:03.840 persisted from the earliest days of common law until nineteen 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:05.879 seventy three when the law was changed. Now, if you 0:17:06.080 --> 0:17:09.080 just put blank there, you can apply that it's about anything, yea. 0:17:09.240 --> 0:17:13.320 The inuscapable conclusion that the right of African Americans to 0:17:13.520 --> 0:17:16.719 read is not deeply rooted in the in the nation's 0:17:16.760 --> 0:17:20.560 history and traditions. On the contrary and unbroken tradition of 0:17:20.640 --> 0:17:24.600 prohibiting reading on the part of African Americans on pain 0:17:24.640 --> 0:17:27.959 of criminal punishment persisted from the earliest days of common law. 0:17:28.080 --> 0:17:32.080 So you can just give you another example. The the 0:17:32.760 --> 0:17:39.760 interscapable inclusion that a that desegregation Yep, we can go 0:17:39.880 --> 0:17:44.600 on the right to vote. These people. This is evil. This, 0:17:44.960 --> 0:17:49.440 the wording of this is evil, and it's not something Frankly, 0:17:49.480 --> 0:17:51.919 when you read this that you have any reason to 0:17:51.920 --> 0:17:55.840 believe that they just wrote this the other night. They've 0:17:55.880 --> 0:18:00.720 been working on this for decades. This is one hell 0:18:00.960 --> 0:18:06.359 of an argument to say that because something was outlawed 0:18:06.800 --> 0:18:10.679 since the founding of this country, it should still be 0:18:10.760 --> 0:18:18.359 outlawed today. If folks, if that does not shake you 0:18:18.480 --> 0:18:21.800 up and wake you up, then ain't nothing else we 0:18:21.800 --> 0:18:26.640 can do do it? Nothing else Danielle Moody can say, 0:18:27.160 --> 0:18:30.879 or I can say, I'm telling you this, you know, 0:18:30.920 --> 0:18:31.960 we might as well just go ahead and do the 0:18:31.960 --> 0:18:35.800 cookie show, because you know, because here's the thing, Mark, 0:18:35.880 --> 0:18:39.760 because folks keep saying on social media right to your point, 0:18:40.440 --> 0:18:43.560 oh well, now people are going to be galvanized. Now 0:18:43.600 --> 0:18:47.720 people are gonna fight, and I'm saying, you lost the war. 0:18:48.560 --> 0:18:51.199 So what is it exactly that we want people to 0:18:51.280 --> 0:18:54.240 wake up too? Because I'll tell you this, Nicole Hannah Jones, 0:18:55.640 --> 0:18:58.760 and let me pull this up. Nicole Hannah Jones had 0:18:58.840 --> 0:19:03.920 offered a tweet that I thought was so on point 0:19:04.840 --> 0:19:09.720 because every time people want to turn around and say, oh, 0:19:09.760 --> 0:19:11.639 you know, well, now folks are gonna be galvanized. She 0:19:11.680 --> 0:19:16.200 said this, She's on Twitter, she said, Folks on here 0:19:16.280 --> 0:19:21.399 saying this will energize quote women voters are blatantly ignoring 0:19:21.720 --> 0:19:27.000 that the majority of black latina Asian indigenous women voted 0:19:27.040 --> 0:19:31.239 against Republicans and a majority of white women voted for 0:19:32.200 --> 0:19:37.400 voted for despite ours explicit promises to end row So 0:19:37.440 --> 0:19:40.840 what are you really saying? That's what she said in 0:19:40.880 --> 0:19:43.360 her tweet. So when folks are like, oh, this will 0:19:43.400 --> 0:19:48.479 galvanize folks, we had a historic goddamn election in twenty 0:19:48.600 --> 0:19:52.959 twenty because black and brown people, indigenous people, API people, 0:19:53.640 --> 0:19:59.960 queer people were galvanized in recognizing that another term under 0:20:00.160 --> 0:20:07.119 Donald Trump was gonna mean certain devastation. So when folks 0:20:07.160 --> 0:20:09.240 are saying it's, oh, they're gonna wake up, I said, 0:20:09.280 --> 0:20:11.240 wake up to what the fifty three percent of white 0:20:11.240 --> 0:20:13.760 women that voted for a man that said that he 0:20:13.800 --> 0:20:16.879 could grab that by the pussy in twenty sixteen, and 0:20:16.920 --> 0:20:19.360 they still show it up in mass and then did 0:20:19.400 --> 0:20:25.439 so in increased numbers in twenty twenty. Well, the question 0:20:25.480 --> 0:20:28.560 becomes whether or not it's because those women know and 0:20:28.720 --> 0:20:34.880 believe that just like before in nineteen seventy three, there 0:20:34.880 --> 0:20:37.200 were those who had access to things that everybody else 0:20:37.200 --> 0:20:40.919 didn't have. Come on, So if you if you know 0:20:41.119 --> 0:20:43.679 for a fact that you'll still have the access to 0:20:43.760 --> 0:20:46.399 that which you want and need or whatever it is, 0:20:47.640 --> 0:20:50.879 you don't really care. I'm gonna get it anyway. I 0:20:50.920 --> 0:20:52.879 can still go somewhere and get an abortion or have 0:20:53.000 --> 0:20:55.879 access to I mean, do you all really think it 0:20:56.000 --> 0:21:00.199 stops at abortion? Do you really think it stops you 0:21:00.240 --> 0:21:01.880 think it really? Are we just we're gonna let you'all. 0:21:02.040 --> 0:21:06.720 We're gonna let you have contraception and access to free 0:21:06.720 --> 0:21:09.160 clinics and playing parenthood. We're gonna let you do that. 0:21:09.760 --> 0:21:13.600 We're just not going to allow abortion. How far back 0:21:13.640 --> 0:21:17.560 do they go? Mark? Do do you know? Because to 0:21:17.600 --> 0:21:19.960 your point, it is it is not going to stop 0:21:19.960 --> 0:21:22.520 an abortion. It is going to go to contraception. It 0:21:22.640 --> 0:21:27.000 is gonna go to every single way to be able 0:21:27.000 --> 0:21:31.439 to control right women. But I'm talking about, as you 0:21:31.480 --> 0:21:37.040 were reading through the opinion and inserting different things, I 0:21:37.119 --> 0:21:40.160 think we can go all the way back to plessy. 0:21:40.280 --> 0:21:43.120 We can go all the way back. I mean, every 0:21:43.320 --> 0:21:47.680 single right mark that we have gotten hasn't come through 0:21:47.800 --> 0:21:51.840 an Act of Congress. It has come through the courts. 0:21:51.920 --> 0:21:58.439 So if this after fifty years falls you telling me 0:21:58.560 --> 0:22:01.080 that folks believe that lie, Oh this is gonna be 0:22:01.119 --> 0:22:05.640 done because Susan Collins said that, oh, she trusts Brett Kavanaugh, 0:22:05.880 --> 0:22:09.199 that she trusts the Supreme Court. How far back do 0:22:09.240 --> 0:22:13.280 you think that this is going and what is the 0:22:13.359 --> 0:22:18.600 preparation here? Because I feel like they've been at war 0:22:19.040 --> 0:22:22.560 and we thought we were at a picnic. They've been 0:22:22.600 --> 0:22:28.240 at war and we thought that we were friends, and 0:22:28.359 --> 0:22:31.680 they dropped the hammer and we're still sitting around going, well, 0:22:31.800 --> 0:22:35.159 my friends from across the aisle, believing that they believe 0:22:35.200 --> 0:22:41.679 in the rule of law, that they care about the Constitution. Yeah, 0:22:41.480 --> 0:22:59.240 it's we We've all been really demobilized. And the dependency 0:23:00.080 --> 0:23:05.760 on social media, the intoxication that we get from streaming 0:23:09.200 --> 0:23:14.439 all of these things are like the perfect confluence of 0:23:14.520 --> 0:23:19.600 events and situations that make it impossible for us to 0:23:19.720 --> 0:23:24.120 really um, for us to really organize, and for us 0:23:24.119 --> 0:23:27.720 to really wake up. And so most people are watching 0:23:27.720 --> 0:23:30.159 this unfold on television. We're riveted. It's the drama. We 0:23:30.400 --> 0:23:36.399 were addicted to watching drama rather than doing something about it. M. 0:23:38.680 --> 0:23:43.320 I mean, imagine what other countries in the world must 0:23:43.359 --> 0:23:49.399 be thinking. There was even one other phrase in there. 0:23:49.400 --> 0:23:51.000 I want to see if I can pull that up too, 0:23:51.560 --> 0:23:55.320 where they were in the document where they basically said, well, 0:23:55.359 --> 0:24:00.840 you know, uh uh, the whole thing about having the 0:24:00.920 --> 0:24:07.119 right to liberty doesn't really matter either. You don't, I mean, 0:24:07.359 --> 0:24:10.000 you don't have the right right to to that. That's 0:24:10.040 --> 0:24:12.560 not anything I want to I want to lift it 0:24:12.640 --> 0:24:16.320 up because it was such an incredible statement and so 0:24:17.800 --> 0:24:23.240 right wing. Uh, suggesting that that liberty isn't something that 0:24:23.359 --> 0:24:25.159 is just automatic and you can just do whatever you 0:24:25.200 --> 0:24:31.000 want to do. That sounds like Vladimir poutin. Come on, 0:24:32.720 --> 0:24:34.879 it really does. So I mean, is that is that? 0:24:34.880 --> 0:24:37.000 What what did Vladimir putin? Right? This? Is that what 0:24:37.040 --> 0:24:42.840 we're going back to? Uh? The here, here's something else. 0:24:43.800 --> 0:24:45.800 Um oh no, I'm sorry, that's the same thing. I'm 0:24:45.800 --> 0:24:47.440 sorry forgive me, forgive me, give me, give me a second. 0:24:47.480 --> 0:24:50.960 I want to because I want our audience to hear this, 0:24:51.720 --> 0:24:54.640 because go ahead, I'm sorry, no, no, no, because as 0:24:54.640 --> 0:24:57.199 you're as you're looking at up, because I'm saying to myself, 0:24:59.440 --> 0:25:02.160 these people people do not like this is the fundamental 0:25:03.200 --> 0:25:09.520 nature of white evangelical Christian dumb is that they do 0:25:09.600 --> 0:25:17.080 not believe in democracy. They believe in theocracy and authoritarianism. 0:25:17.119 --> 0:25:21.640 They believe that men and white men alone should lead. 0:25:22.160 --> 0:25:27.280 That the breakdown of the perceived quote unquote nuclear family 0:25:28.280 --> 0:25:34.000 came from right the ability of women to have rights, 0:25:34.840 --> 0:25:38.480 right to have rightful autonomy over their bodies, to have 0:25:38.640 --> 0:25:44.600 rightful autonomy over all of these the pieces of themselves. 0:25:44.720 --> 0:25:49.840 And so if you then go back to the way 0:25:49.880 --> 0:25:53.560 that it was, where white men alone can lead and 0:25:53.640 --> 0:25:58.200 do so with impunity, that they alone are the ones 0:25:58.280 --> 0:26:02.080 that disperse liberty to those they feel like have earned 0:26:02.119 --> 0:26:09.359 it right, then that will reorder things in our society 0:26:09.359 --> 0:26:14.800 and our culture. It's why we are going into classrooms 0:26:15.000 --> 0:26:20.359 to uphold what they perceived to be the rightful gender right, 0:26:20.920 --> 0:26:25.040 the rightful order of things. These are boys, these are girls. 0:26:25.400 --> 0:26:33.480 Everyone needs to know their place in this hierarchy. I'm sorry, 0:26:33.480 --> 0:26:34.920 I can't put my finger on it right now, but 0:26:36.080 --> 0:26:38.720 I've read it for another guest and then I lost it. 0:26:38.720 --> 0:26:42.440 I should have bookmarked it. But basically the argument that 0:26:44.800 --> 0:26:49.240 so they're arguing for something called ordered liberty, which also 0:26:49.400 --> 0:26:53.640 was a very right wing concept I was speaking with 0:26:54.000 --> 0:26:58.639 the president National Organization for Women, and she was talking 0:26:58.640 --> 0:27:02.199 about the other part just read in terms of what 0:27:02.240 --> 0:27:08.480 the nation's laws used to be. We'll wait a minute, Women, 0:27:09.160 --> 0:27:13.399 African Americans, other people of color, we're not even considered 0:27:13.440 --> 0:27:20.240 in the constitution, right, We're not even considered, right, So 0:27:22.200 --> 0:27:28.880 you might as well just nullify right, every protection that 0:27:28.920 --> 0:27:30.240 we have had it And don't tell me all you're 0:27:30.280 --> 0:27:31.639 going too far. It's not what you want to do. 0:27:32.680 --> 0:27:36.600 Uh No, you're not going to convince me of that 0:27:37.320 --> 0:27:44.439 you have. You have jeopardized every protection that exists for 0:27:44.680 --> 0:27:48.600 all of the groups that have been impacted by racism 0:27:48.600 --> 0:27:51.320 and white supremacy and the very founding of this country. 0:27:53.800 --> 0:28:01.200 So none of these this is this is a monumental decision. 0:28:01.920 --> 0:28:03.720 Hopefully it's a wake up call in terms of the 0:28:03.720 --> 0:28:05.400 mid terms. I don't know. I think you just made 0:28:05.400 --> 0:28:08.159 the point. I mean, people didn't get it in twenty sixteen. 0:28:09.760 --> 0:28:12.919 And and the woman who ordered the red dress at 0:28:12.960 --> 0:28:16.119 the mid gala the other night told y'all but couldn't 0:28:16.119 --> 0:28:18.600 stand her who. I don't know. I don't know if 0:28:18.640 --> 0:28:20.560 we should if she should be her, she should be 0:28:20.600 --> 0:28:23.320 a woman, or if we're done I mean, we went 0:28:23.320 --> 0:28:28.480 through all of that, and now this is what you have. 0:28:28.720 --> 0:28:37.400 And I'm speaking as a man. You know, if if if, 0:28:37.440 --> 0:28:42.240 if women don't give a damn men like me or 0:28:42.280 --> 0:28:43.800 not me, and like because I'm not like that, but man, 0:28:43.880 --> 0:28:47.400 well why should I give it? In? Why should I care? 0:28:50.240 --> 0:28:52.040 But I think it goes back to what you said 0:28:52.200 --> 0:28:55.600 is that white women have always been a part of 0:28:55.640 --> 0:29:00.719