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Speaker 2: How important is the Hall of Fame?

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Speaker 1: Now? Everybody been asking with Fred and Chain right, if

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Speaker 2: When y'all left, he ain't even own the show. He

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Speaker 1: I get a lot of questions about why black people

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Speaker 3: Ten years from them, do you see am athlete and

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Speaker 1: It's a real pivot. Sometime we don't even know. We

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Speaker 1: What do you call when you discriminate against black people?

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Speaker 1: We had just did a show. Everybody in that big

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Speaker 1: that's not a cause to not talk about the business.

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Speaker 1: giving back. That's the business model that I think anybody

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Speaker 1: So I involve integrity more than money because I made money.

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Speaker 3: It's been a consistent statement that you've always wanted ownership,

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Speaker 1: Come out swinging. We we we feel like we're in

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Speaker 4: But ain't no shots. Ain't no ain't no calculated shots.

431
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 4: It's just conversation. Russ won no shot at BE. We

432
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 4: ain't even know that ship was gonna happen.

433
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 1: We said, let's talk about the off season free agent

434
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 1: acquisitions that happened, and Russ came up and Channing, who's

435
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 1: from Georgia, Atlanta's talking about future and the rust thing

436
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 1: came up, you know what I'm saying. And me and

437
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:39,440
Speaker 1: Russ have some relationships through our our sports psychiatrist Trevor Mowatt,

438
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:44,160
Speaker 1: who passed away some months ago. Trevor was amazing. That's

439
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:50,399
Speaker 1: how I became to no Russ through Trevor. I always

440
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 1: thought Russ was a stand up person. You can see

441
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 1: what he's about. Channing said, he's a great family man,

442
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 1: he's a great father, he's a great player, but his

443
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 1: the meaner is that of a lane or or corny.

444
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 1: And people can look at it like people see Russ

445
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 1: and Sierra's union. Yeah, and they want to protect that,

446
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 1: especially because we don't see that often in the black community.

447
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 2: Right right, right, right right, Just real.

448
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,199
Speaker 1: She wasn't shooting at that. You don't see the fatherhood,

449
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 1: he sees the husband, he sees the.

450
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 2: He said that, he said that we don't want that.

451
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 1: Even when we when that ship dropped, they heard me

452
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 1: and Ryan on the back end and say, man, Sierra

453
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,119
Speaker 1: want no toxic ship. You know what I'm saying. She

454
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 1: did with that, did that? You know? In her life

455
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 1: women want to evolved they want to grow. They don't

456
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 1: want that bullshit. So they dismissed what me and Ryan said.

457
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,880
Speaker 1: But that's media. That's that's what that's the algorithm. That's

458
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:55,440
Speaker 1: the algorithm play. And it ain't just the blogs or

459
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 1: the or the sites or of the companies the platforms.

460
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:04,639
Speaker 1: It's the actual algorithm on the back end, this Instagram

461
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 1: want interested in this? Yeah, keeping that breakdown.

462
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 2: But the lower mass, average man don't don't understand that.

463
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 1: That's the business model. Yes, right on the back end. Yes,

464
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 1: So he did outrage, but it wasn't a shot at

465
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 1: b It was just a conversation. Through conversation, a line

466
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,880
Speaker 1: that got out and people said, all right, we're gonna

467
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:26,400
Speaker 1: run with it.

468
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 3: Well, what about the shady McCoy thing with the bus thing?

469
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 3: He said, somebody I think it wasn't RC, might have

470
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 3: been RC got on the bus and said he when your.

471
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 1: Family got But RC played for Pittsburgh, right right, So

472
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 1: all those shots we bumped heads in Pittsburgh, right. We

473
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 1: didn't know they was going to be there. They were

474
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,120
Speaker 1: doing a camp tour that we had already started doing.

475
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,959
Speaker 1: They wasn't doing a camp tour. We was doing a

476
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 1: camp tour. What we called. We talked about media credit, right, Yes,

477
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,679
Speaker 1: on the field process. Yes, it's a certain type of

478
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 1: acts that. Yes. Excuse me because in this space it's

479
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:07,640
Speaker 1: about access. Yes, the guests to ten different stuff. It's

480
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 1: about access. So Ryan's in relationships. Ryan relationship with Peter

481
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,640
Speaker 1: came from him being a former player with coach Tomlin.

482
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 1: We had just done Coach on the show. Right, that's access.

483
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 1: We had full reign and an invite to come during

484
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:29,439
Speaker 1: training camp, our training camp show on the road, the Pivot,

485
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:33,400
Speaker 1: every team we talked to, we was invited. We had

486
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 1: credentials to be there. What Ryan said was when your family,

487
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 1: which he is or the Stillers organization, when your family,

488
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: you don't have to ride the bus, see I gotta

489
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 1: get on.

490
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 2: Asked, because has that not a shot?

491
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 1: But tell me this, it was Listen, it was a

492
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 1: it was a it was a it was It.

493
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,159
Speaker 2: Was because he and me and you know, it's almost

494
00:27:58,240 --> 00:27:58,880
Speaker 2: like jay Z.

495
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 1: Talking in the parent It was a subtle shot exactly.

496
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 2: It's like Jake getting them rams.

497
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 3: He'll say, certainly, but I ain't even saying that's a

498
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 3: beef thing.

499
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 1: But it's like it's recognizing competition, it's recognizing competition. It's

500
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 1: the truth. It's the truth. And it was a subtle shot, yes,

501
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:23,880
Speaker 1: because they wasn't they wasn't invited. They got access based

502
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 1: on them. If you look at the training Camp show,

503
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 1: so that's what their training camp shows were snippets. Our

504
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,199
Speaker 1: training camp shows will sit downs. Their training camp shows

505
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 1: was who's your top five? Because that YouTube has YouTube

506
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 1: shorts right where you take your promos and you put

507
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 1: it and that that get X amount of views.

508
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 2: You're getting into the game.

509
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 1: You're getting into the game, but it's not always monetizing.

510
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 1: You're trying to build your brain, right, So there's a

511
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 1: difference depends on how you want to look.

512
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 2: What I'm saying.

513
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 3: You're breaking down the information of this YouTube thing. You're

514
00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 3: breaking it down right.

515
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 1: It's shorts right in different clips. So that's what they

516
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 1: focused on. We just focused on doing what we do

517
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 1: and that's having holds a podcast the whole show. We

518
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: maintain our show, you know what I'm saying, and you take.

519
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 3: No tail the casual fan before you move on? Is

520
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 3: their difference in access to be able to do those

521
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 3: two things.

522
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 1: A thousand because we can access to their media rooms.

523
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, and we're doing it the

524
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 1: right way. We're contacting their PR department saying, hey, we're

525
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 1: looking to sit down with X, y Z this player,

526
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: that player, that player, what's his availability? And when you

527
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 1: approach it that way, it's it's a respect factor that's

528
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: gained and that comes back. And then when you kill

529
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 1: it with their players, you don't dirty the team up. Yes,

530
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 1: you don't dirty the player. It's wholesome. It's lifestyle. Teams

531
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 1: have been buttoned up for decades. Yes, they want to

532
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: get into showing the lifestyle side of their players, the vulnerables.

533
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: It's important to show transparency because of y'all, because people

534
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 1: don't get that access. So we talked to journalists all

535
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 1: the time. They say, man, we're jealous, not in a

536
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: bad way, but in a way that they know the

537
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 1: access we get they don't get.

538
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, y'all.

539
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 1: Lebrun or gonna be different, Stephan Diggs or von Miller,

540
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 1: and they can ask questions. The player immediately got a

541
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: block up exactly because they know the history of it.

542
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 1: But if they sit down with us who've been in

543
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: those seats and been in those locker rooms, they gonna

544
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 1: say damn comfortable.

545
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 3: To see y'all say, y'all were the second that's what

546
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 3: made I'm athletes so important, or y'all together, y'all chemistry

547
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 3: and all of that so important.

548
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 1: It is because y'all were the second wave.

549
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 3: The first wave of that was your people like Shack

550
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 3: and Charles Barkley and those people who had these prestigious

551
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 3: media positions. But then y'all come with the Oh niggas didn't.

552
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 3: Oh he got eleven thousand yards talking to us about

553
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 3: coming through the hole and what it was like when.

554
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 2: The Patriots sent the blitz in me, you know, and

555
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 2: it's like that whole thing.

556
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 3: And then on top of that, dealing with what it

557
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 3: took to get there, dealing with what it took to sustain,

558
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 3: dealing with what it took to get through the hurdles

559
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 3: of the information from the Texas and X, Y and

560
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 3: Z was so so important, man, y'all changed it. So

561
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 3: basically you saying that they were not invited. RC got

562
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 3: on the bus, recognized they're there. Oh they're on the bus.

563
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 3: You don't got to ride the bus when you family

564
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 3: He got off.

565
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: That was Ryan arcis U.

566
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 3: Does this translate to anything or is it just friendly media.

567
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: You know, I don't want to call it media beef.

568
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: That now.

569
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 2: I ain't saying beef.

570
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: It's just media competen competitiveness just because of the history, right,

571
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 1: the dynamic of that. It comes across as that. Yeah,

572
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: and I still have that pack, you know, I support

573
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 1: Pack for you know what he's doing in his movement

574
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: in the cannabis space. Yes, you know what I'm saying,

575
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: his pack straying and what he's trying to do. So

576
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 1: we had our friction, you know what I'm saying. But

577
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 1: I go back and say, little Bride, support you when

578
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: when that ship was going on and shit happened in

579
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 1: Vegas back in the day he was with the Titans,

580
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: I was Jacksonville. We played each other twice a year.

581
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: I walk up the pack, not even knowing him in

582
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 1: the end zone, but he's warming up. I say, Little

583
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: brou don't crack the bank. Bro, you the bank, the

584
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 1: niggas around you gotta understand that anything happened to you,

585
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: all that money going run out the bank. Don't let

586
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: the niggas crack it. Make sure they understand their position.

587
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: So that's that was our initial conversation, and that he

588
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: always big Bride love you from that day for right,

589
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 1: and then the podcast shit happened. Well, he went over there,

590
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: he saw an opportunity for him. I can't knock that.

591
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 3: And he and he was playing for you know, Pat,

592
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 3: he a good He might know he kind of he

593
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 3: he might go, he might adopt this ship a little

594
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 3: bit different than then because.

595
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 1: He come from a why that's true. So with that,

596
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 1: knowing that, you know what I'm saying, and even my background,

597
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, it don't make no sense really to

598
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 1: have no tension. So I fell back, right, whatever came

599
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 1: from over there, came from over there. Ain't ain't no response,

600
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 1: and the same thing from my side. But to see

601
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 1: him doing this thing, right, I say, Bro, I hate him,

602
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 1: like bro, keep going, Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like,

603
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 1: fuck it, just keep going. But whatever shots happened, you

604
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, even like in music, shots happened,

605
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: jay Nas, this nigga, that nigga. It can help them

606
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 1: run up their numbers. Not saying we're doing that. Yeah

607
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But I want, I sincerely

608
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: want a packed to do his thing. I talked to

609
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: Shady like damn bro, like look bro like. He said,

610
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: you wasn't really nice on the field. I think, No,

611
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 1: I ain't say that.

612
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 2: I think he said on Joe, But he said he.

613
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 1: Ain't say that. He said he can't say that. Hold on,

614
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: hold on.

615
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 3: He said Fred was one of them niggas that was

616
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 3: he wasn't Was it you or somebody else? No, he

617
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,760
Speaker 3: ain't say me Fred or who else? May He ain't

618
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 3: say me because you was a dog. Yeah, ain't I'm

619
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 3: talking about you was a dog. So if he said it,

620
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 3: I'm gonna put it.

621
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 2: In his interview. But I don't think. I don't think

622
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 2: what I'm saying because you was a monster. Yeah nah nah.

623
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: That's why I feel like he ain't say me, because

624
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 1: like when I look at this ship, you know what

625
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like Shady was a shady was he was

626
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: nice too? You know what I'm saying.

627
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 2: Crazy work was nice?

628
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 1: Yeah? You you you when you bust it down, and

629
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: uh look at errors, yeah, and numbers and defenses who

630
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,280
Speaker 1: I came up against and who he came up against.

631
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 1: And it's not taking nothing away from I played against

632
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: Ray Lewis twice a year for five years. I played

633
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 1: against the Stiller's defense twice a year for five years

634
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,720
Speaker 1: when they was prime and they prime. I played against

635
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: the Titians when they was Super Bowl for the years

636
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 1: twice a year in that division the old AFC Central

637
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: before the realignment in two thousand and five. So they

638
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: can't never talked about my credit on the field. So

639
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 1: that's why I know that.

640
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 2: But I love that. I love I love that feeling

641
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 2: from you. I feel your energy.

642
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:18,320
Speaker 1: That's you.

643
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 2: You wouldn't even accept it.

644
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: I love that energy. Look that I played against Yeah, yeah, yeah,

645
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:27,839
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. If you running that Ray,

646
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 1: you're running now, you were a beast. Talk to Brooks

647
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,879
Speaker 1: the Wars, Yeah, talk to them boys and say, look

648
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 1: you got Shady right here, which was a dog. You

649
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: got Freddie right here. I'm gonna take that bit ninety

650
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 1: in a second. Yeah you know what I'm saying. But

651
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 1: that's a whole different and it's just competitive. Yeah, even

652
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,959
Speaker 1: on the fact. Yeah yeah, yeah, that's why I love.

653
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 1: I love that.

654
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:50,839
Speaker 2: Spirit from that.

655
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:51,919
Speaker 1: That's the nature of the beast.

656
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 2: What about be What do you say B Marshall played

657
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 2: the game?

658
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 1: Go ahead and remember that question?

659
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 3: Okay, bad then you was do you think B Marshall

660
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 3: played tough because he was a dog to He played tough.

661
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 3: He rough couple of niggas up. But see again, you

662
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,879
Speaker 3: played you played rough to me. And that's what when

663
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:13,280
Speaker 3: I see y'all too, Like anytime I see two dogs

664
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,919
Speaker 3: on the field, that's like having issues kind of off

665
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:19,800
Speaker 3: the field. It's always like some like you can cut

666
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 3: the tension.

667
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 2: It's almost like, you know what I'm saying.

668
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, n he was nice. Yeah, I'll never take that

669
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 1: away from him. He was nice out there, big body. Yeah,

670
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. You know, coming from UCF

671
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 1: here in Florida. Hell, even to come out of Pittsburgh

672
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,359
Speaker 1: to come down to Florida to go to UCF and

673
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: parlay that into an NFL contract and put up the

674
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 1: numbers he put up, that's solid. You know. I can't

675
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: never take that away from him, what he did on

676
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: the field. Like any guy, what you what you did

677
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 1: on the field is what you did on It's a

678
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 1: real niggah. You know, you gotta be able to separate

679
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 1: uh the player from the person when it all comes

680
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 1: down onto it and what you did on the field

681
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 1: as your competitive nature, instant, your drive, the passion, but

682
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 1: you had to have integrity to be out there. And

683
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 1: that's the same thing you got to have in life.

684
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 1: The matter of the business, the matter of the space.

685
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 1: You gotta be competitive because you're always gonna have just

686
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: like in the league, you're gonna always have a younger

687
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 1: person coming in that space to try to knock you

688
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 1: off indirectly. But some people actually ain't at you, but

689
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 1: they come in for your ship.

690
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 2: So anytime you hold position right, so.

691
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 1: You just got to stand up, do what you gotta

692
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: do to make it happen. But you know, Channing RC,

693
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,919
Speaker 1: the people on the back end, myself, we ain't bout

694
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: no drama. Bro RCI said what he said, it was

695
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 1: the truth. Like you know, you get in you have

696
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 1: moments if they win, and they grabbed that, that was

697
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: the moment plenty times over they shot back. Yeah, and

698
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,879
Speaker 1: we sat down and just took that and let it run. Yeah,

699
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 1: we understand that. We laugh at this ship when we

700
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 1: say we're in the same lane. We're not in the

701
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 1: same lane. We do the same shit, but we're not

702
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 1: in the same lane. The way we've been moving. Like

703
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: at this point, we get so many calls people to

704
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:39,760
Speaker 1: try to come on the show. So with our relationships

705
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 1: and the people we already got lined up in what

706
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,879
Speaker 1: we're trying to do. We hate to tell somebody, Look,

707
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: it's gonna be this long before we can get your

708
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: client on the show. We want to have everybody on

709
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 1: the show. We want the conversation because people trust that

710
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,280
Speaker 1: our shit gonna be clean. It ain't gonna be no drama.

711
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: It's about education, information, transparency, and really just shine in

712
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: a light on a different side of the subject, whoever

713
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: that guess might be.

714
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 3: And I tell you when y'all first left, and that's

715
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 3: why I wanted to ask, because let's go back right

716
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 3: there for a second before we talk about concussions.

717
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 2: Then we'll wrap up.

718
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 3: When y'all left that well, the reason I asked where

719
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,720
Speaker 3: y'all trying to tank the show is because not only

720
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 3: did y'all leave, but y'all pop out with like.

721
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: Tonio Brown when he was on fire. This that y'all

722
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: start like that just a relationship. We ain't try to tank.

723
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: We ain't try to tank the old show. Bro. I

724
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 1: swear to God, when we didn't try to tank the

725
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:46,399
Speaker 1: show like y'all, just y'all, we had to sit back

726
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: because one you know, in any war right, in any

727
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: competitive environment, if you fail to do the research on

728
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 1: your opponent, you're gonna lose every time. Because we knew

729
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 1: who we was dealing with, you know, we knew what

730
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 1: he was capable of. If we told anybody we was

731
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: plotting to do another show, that would have got out

732
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 1: back to him and he would have tried to get

733
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 1: in front of it, and our reintroduction that same dynamic

734
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,359
Speaker 1: effect that it had. So we was on the back end,

735
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 1: behind the scenes, talking about, oh, we're gonna do X,

736
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: y Z. And then it was our producer who said,

737
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 1: all right, let's do a little promo Fred, what you love.

738
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be on the golf course. Channing. Channing lost

739
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 1: the fish all right. Everybody been asking, you can kind

740
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 1: of see what the people want with Fred and chan Right,

741
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 1: with Fred and chan the whole fucking time after the

742
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 1: show started fizzling, with Fred and Channing like they kept

743
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: the show.

744
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 2: Were y'all panicking, So y'all were confident.

745
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: We wouldn't even think about that.

746
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 3: I would imagine if he was panicking, his two co

747
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 3: hosts just left.

748
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and now I'm sitting here like, yeah,

749
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 2: that's what happened.

750
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know he was That's exactly what happened, but

751
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 1: we ain't trying to But we weren't even thinking about

752
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,240
Speaker 1: leaving him out the drive. We were thinking on business

753
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 1: now because he.

754
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 2: Made y'all shit together.

755
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:23,879
Speaker 1: He made this move so and it was a hard

756
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:27,359
Speaker 1: decision because I still was stuck between do I run

757
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: this because I don't know what a new show would

758
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 1: do exactly. Do I run this risk? Do nothing? Do

759
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: I sit back and be unhappy so I can get

760
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 1: a little exposure about my hall of fame. I'm gonna

761
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: still be me and get a you know what I'm saying,

762
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 1: give back my experience and wisdom or whatever you call

763
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 1: it back to the people, be truthful through conversation. I'm

764
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: gonna do that. But do I run that risk? Right?

765
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? If jumping ship doesn't have

766
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 1: the same effect. So what y'all got that Alisha girl,

767
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 1: she were going to a point at leasta on won

768
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 1: like twelve thirteen.

769
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, Like she's killing it over with y'all.

770
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 1: She's solid, you know what I'm saying. But we all

771
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: as a collective make this. So it was a little

772
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 1: bit more confidence knowing the relationships she had was intact.

773
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: It's so deep, bro, from this shit crazy man. Because

774
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: I kept telling Buddy like, bro, don't fuck this up.

775
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 1: Old girl a gold mine, Like, don't fuck that relationship up.

776
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: But he got bigger than that and started doing some

777
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: undercut like something, some conniving, some bullshit, and I'm like, Bro,

778
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 1: don't do that. And he asked him out like you

779
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: can't do that. Now they in a situation that's ongoing,

780
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 1: but that's that. But yeah, man, chanle just jump ship.

781
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 1: We ran with it. Didn't know but the reintroduction was

782
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 1: was amazing from the people that have been waiting on us.

783
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and y'all come out swinging.

784
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: But even with the AB when like AB was solid,

785
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,839
Speaker 1: like it was a good conversation at that time that

786
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 1: needed to be had. But if the history of it

787
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 1: tells you anything before AB, even B, before Antonio Brown

788
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 1: became a B, like he fucked with me because of

789
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 1: he coming up as a young buck. This wasn't even

790
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:26,800
Speaker 1: known in Pittsburgh. We training together. He looking up to me, O, G,

791
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 1: how to maneuver? I lined it up. This is how

792
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 1: you do it, this how you train. He looking over

793
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: at me like Damn this dude in year eleven killing it.

794
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,839
Speaker 1: This how you trained, this, how you operated. So he's

795
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 1: seen that when he evolved into ab So the love

796
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,280
Speaker 1: was I'm gonna go fuck with y'all on face because

797
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:51,919
Speaker 1: impacting everybody, everybody but he thing with Floyd it's love

798
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:56,240
Speaker 1: and everybody else shot like everybody else was love based

799
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,839
Speaker 1: on the love that was being reciprocated. And that's how

800
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 1: we was able to run it and spend everything. So

801
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 1: our business really has been Man, it's a real pivot.

802
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 1: Sometime we don't even know. We got a guess into

803
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: the day before we book up flights, We run it,

804
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: we do it. Be try to say we shitted on

805
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 1: them with Mike Tyson and Caitlyn Jenna, but be shitted

806
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 1: on some people that he was in partnership with at

807
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 1: Ia that got relationships with them. People we ain't have

808
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 1: to make no phone calls. It's my Grandma Broye with everything.

809
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: I love everything. My grandma dined with dementia right now

810
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:35,359
Speaker 1: to this day, and that shit is sad to see

811
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 1: it in that position. On all of that, I ain't

812
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 1: never shot at beating them, We ain't never undercut them

813
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 1: with no guests. No, none of that. It's relationships that

814
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:46,320
Speaker 1: he killed and people want to see us win because

815
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 1: he fucked over them. That's life. So they put us

816
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: in that position. The Caitland Jenner show me, we were

817
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 1: asking if we wanted to do that at ten o'clock

818
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,359
Speaker 1: at night. We did at ten o'clock the next day

819
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: because we was in La doing something for the Rams.

820
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: It ain't about Messy by drum about this.

821
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 3: So he was supposed to have Caitlin and then y'all

822
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 3: the same.

823
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 1: Time after they won the super Bowl and all of that.

824
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 1: I don't even know if they shout out to Caitland people, okay,

825
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,800
Speaker 1: because they heard whispers of them saying they had booked

826
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:21,399
Speaker 1: her for the show. They were like, no, we don't

827
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 1: fuck with liars. We won't fuck with that, So we're

828
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 1: gonna come fuck with y'all because we don't fuck with that.

829
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:28,240
Speaker 2: Okay.

830
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 1: The same thing with Mike and Mike people. His wife

831
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: kind of run all. His ship might be here and there.

832
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,800
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Mike smartest, fuck first and foremost,

833
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 1: but Mike is definitely calculated. I didn't get Mike on man,

834
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 1: that would be big, Like we had a relationship to

835
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 1: some people that we developed a relationship with that he

836
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: burned the bridges with, that be burned the bridges with.

837
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 1: So they want to see us win a couple of

838
00:45:55,680 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 1: I guess looping exactly. But that's life. That's yeah, that's

839
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 1: going back to who knows you what I was talking about.

840
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:07,359
Speaker 1: I don't burn bridges. No, I don't funk around like, yeah,

841
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 1: you fuck over me. I'm gonna calculate. I'm gonna sit

842
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,839
Speaker 1: tight and let you do your thing. If I if

843
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: I loan you bread this and that, I'm not going

844
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 1: to ask you for it back.

845
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 2: You need to get that to me like I gave

846
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 2: it to you.

847
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you want to kill that relationship, that's on

848
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 1: your and that's the cycle. So when people came to

849
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,280
Speaker 1: us like we got this, this and this while y'all

850
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 1: out here, what's up? We had a talk big too.

851
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:33,800
Speaker 1: What would our fan base think of us doing? Kaitlyn Jenner?

852
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 1: You know what? Fuck it?

853
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, cauld we tap into another fan base. They got

854
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 2: to ride with him.

855
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 1: The risks associated with what comes with that. And I'm

856
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 1: not homophobic at all, Like I don't like this, say

857
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:50,760
Speaker 1: I'm talking to the people. So that came into play.

858
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,800
Speaker 1: Mike was supposed to come in to play that same weekend,

859
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 1: but we had to wait another two three months to

860
00:46:56,440 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 1: get Mike because, like I said, scheduling, scheduling, but Mike

861
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 1: also he don't.

862
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,959
Speaker 2: Be fucking with shit. Sometimes has to be Mike yeah.

863
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, because one day he all

864
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: for cool yeah, and then you gotta understand the trauma

865
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 1: that is going so some days he's not with it.

866
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:19,439
Speaker 1: It's still added up. But that was only because of relationship.

867
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: We never stole no fucking guess how that sounds. How

868
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 1: the fun we're gonna steal a guess. We can't hit

869
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 1: on you. If people want to come on your show,

870
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: they don't come on your show, they don't show up

871
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: all that shi It don't matter. They did Fat Joe.

872
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 1: We just did Fat Joe. You know what I'm saying.

873
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:38,919
Speaker 1: People reach out to you, people reach out to us

874
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 1: for whatever reason out of Fat Joe. That's what they

875
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: do it for. And that's love. Man. Either way, I

876
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 1: ain't shitting on nobody. I never do that. That's just

877
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 1: part of the business. Right.

878
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 3: Let me ask you this and then we'll wrap up.

879
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:57,360
Speaker 3: How important is the Hall of fame to you, it's important.

880
00:47:56,480 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 1: Like I never knew when I played, I ain't think

881
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 1: about playing to get in the Hall of Fame, right,

882
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 1: I thought about winning Like that was just the selflessness

883
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:13,280
Speaker 1: in my demeanor and how I came up. My grandmother

884
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 1: raised me with five siblings in the house. My mom

885
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:20,280
Speaker 1: had me at sixteen. I was the oldest of five

886
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: that eventually got a seven. My grandmother raised us in

887
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 1: a two bedroom, so I had to give of myself

888
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 1: for everything, right. I had to be big bro all

889
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 1: the ways, and I made sure how I move it

890
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 1: was calculated. So I had to make sure they didn't

891
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: do a lot of stupid shit I was doing. I

892
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 1: had to leverage them from doing that. So even that

893
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 1: evolved into my planning days. It was always team first.

894
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: They said, all right, we're gonna bring somebody in to

895
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 1: run shortyardage and run goal line. I probably gave away

896
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 1: thirty forty touchdown by coming out of that from the

897
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: one or two yard right right right? What you could

898
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: have like, yeah, I retired. It was sixty six touchdowns

899
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 1: on the ground Saturday for a total combined receiving it

900
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 1: and running those sixty six on the ground, probably could

901
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:13,479
Speaker 1: have been ninety six. It probably could have been eighty five,

902
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 1: Like it could have been a lot if I was selfish,

903
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 1: you know. And to be a Hall of Famer, granted

904
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 1: some people first ballot. It come with fame. It's exactly

905
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 1: what it is, the Hall of Fame. You know, we

906
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 1: talked the Pro Bowl. Different markets. Some people do half

907
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 1: of a quarter or three quarters of what you've done,

908
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 1: but if they're in a bigger market, see it's bigger.

909
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 1: But that's just the nature of the gain.

910
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 2: That's business, you know what I'm saying.

911
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 1: Going back to my rookie year, I rushed a lot

912
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 1: of guys, but because they already was established and had

913
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 1: a name, there was a better market. They got denied

914
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 1: of the Pro Bowl.

915
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 2: You got one Pro Bowl. I think I got one.

916
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 1: When Randy shout out to my ninety eight brother man,

917
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 1: the best class in history of the game. I think

918
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 1: Payon Mann and Charles Woods and Randy Moss, you know myself,

919
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 1: in just a few first rounders. Going back to our

920
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:14,240
Speaker 1: rookie year, Randy got Rookie of the Year and Peyton

921
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 1: was like third, our second runner up, runner up. I

922
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 1: still feel like I should have won it, right, I know,

923
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 1: now that don't even matter. Yeah, but when you look at.

924
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 2: The numbers, criteria was meant right.

925
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 1: So you look at the numbers, Uh, Randy and I

926
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 1: had about the same amount of touchdowns. I had more yards.

927
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 1: And he was in Minnesota. He had two big games,

928
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 1: green Bay and the Cowboys, and the perfect time, big

929
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:45,799
Speaker 1: media game, right right right, yeah, green Bay. That's sure,

930
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 1: Street of Mecca. For sure. The football for sure killed

931
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 1: both of them. I'm talking about. He smoked them, both

932
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 1: of them his rookie year. That has sented him to

933
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 1: win the Rookie of the Year. Who's voting on it? Media?

934
00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 1: Same thing with Hall of Fame selectors are is forty

935
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:06,839
Speaker 1: eight selectors in media, thirty two from the thirty two

936
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:10,400
Speaker 1: from local media markets that follow the team. Each team,

937
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 1: every team has a person and then it's sixteen national

938
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 1: selectors because the national media, so it's forty eight in total.

939
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 1: They decide who the Hall of Famers are. Now it's

940
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 1: their job to go back and say, all right, let's

941
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 1: debate Fred Taylor. Why we feel that he's not h

942
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:35,760
Speaker 1: He is exactly right. So whatever they say that gets

943
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 1: you into the semi finalists. The key is to getting

944
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 1: into that finalist room. Then you do a deep dive.

945
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: I've been semi finalists three times.

946
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 2: Right, what is stopping it from going?

947
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 1: The next other guys that might come out that might

948
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 1: be first ballot then okay, okay, okay, previous finalists that

949
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 1: has a history of being a finalist and they've been close,

950
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,879
Speaker 1: you know, So the timing is what it is, right,

951
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 1: I know, for the next at least the next five

952
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 1: to six years, I probably should be the number one

953
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:13,760
Speaker 1: running back candidate because Frank Gorgeous retired.

954
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:17,439
Speaker 2: Shout out Frank. He hit me up to shut out Brouh.

955
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: The same thing about training and guys that come up

956
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:24,800
Speaker 1: on teaching them how to do you know pro Frank

957
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 1: g Little Brouh, he definitely should be first ballot. And

958
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 1: then it was a monster for sure. And then you

959
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 1: got Adrian Peterson who probably this year finally announced that

960
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:40,800
Speaker 1: they're retiring. Now their clock started five years post career

961
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 1: before you can even be eligible. I got about a

962
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 1: five year window from running back because my numbers better

963
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:50,360
Speaker 1: than all the running backs that's currently outright.

964
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:54,800
Speaker 2: That's that's eligible right now, and my numbers better than.

965
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 1: I got the fifteenth best numbers in the history of

966
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 1: the NFL, or even the guys that's in there fifteenth,

967
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 1: So what is it like? It ain't on me.

968
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 2: That's that's what I don't get.

969
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 1: It ain't on me. I always telling people because they

970
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 1: always come now and say you're next. After BOSSELLI went

971
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 1: in back in Jacksonville, shout out big bow who's definitely deserving.

972
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 1: His career is cut short, which was the only argument.

973
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 1: But Big Doll was the truth. He's the best lineman

974
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 1: in the game. Why he played, He's deserving. But they

975
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 1: say you next, don't worry you next. I ain't worried.

976
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 1: The best time in the.

977
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 3: I think it's a lock. Though you're going to go

978
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 3: to the you should you can't say.

979
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:42,840
Speaker 1: Let me say this, the best timing in the world

980
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:47,399
Speaker 1: is God's time. That's deep. I can't control nothing deep.

981
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 1: So whenever that is, if I can say it myself,

982
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 1: I want to be in there yesterday exactly. But it

983
00:53:53,480 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 1: ain't on me. So the gratitude and the thankfulness and

984
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 1: all of that shit that probably I'll be overwhelmed with

985
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 1: when it does happen. It's based on God's time. I

986
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 1: can't control that. You can't control us coming together today.

987
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:13,399
Speaker 1: That shit was all out of our line. But when

988
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 1: it happened, the appreciation for us, that feels better than anything.

989
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:22,879
Speaker 1: So I think about it. I know. The different thing,

990
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:26,760
Speaker 1: it's unfortunate you got a campaign. If you're not first ballot,

991
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 1: you gotta set yourself up. You got to kind of

992
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 1: respectfully align yourself in the vision of those people that

993
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 1: are the selectors. And it's one thing because you got

994
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 1: players that you played against, excuse me, the ray Lewis's

995
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:47,840
Speaker 1: of the world. I'll tell you quick. Yeah, you know

996
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:49,719
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Even Randy who was on the other side.

997
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 1: We were teammates in New England. Randy will tell you, boy,

998
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 1: ain't nothing like to eight. You know what I'm saying.

999
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 1: Warren Sap, same thing. What I did to Tampa is

1000
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 1: Super Bowl defense. Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying.

1001
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 2: Derrick Brooks, Yeah, I'll tell you it was a dog.

1002
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 1: All those Raven defenses, the Titian defenses, Troy po Mahlu

1003
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 1: who's a Hall of Famer in Pittsburgh. These guys that

1004
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 1: I actually played against, who.

1005
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 2: Have high level of respect for.

1006
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 1: What you're in those matchups. These are the people you

1007
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 1: would think would have the power are small saying yeah, right,

1008
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 1: the actual Hall of famers that are out there, the

1009
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 1: guys that did it before me, the Marcus Allen's what

1010
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 1: Jim Brown said about me when when he was more

1011
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 1: of a clear sounder mine right, year ago, years ago,

1012
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 1: when I came into the league, he said I was

1013
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:45,279
Speaker 1: his favorite running back. That's your team somewhere. Yeah. The

1014
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 1: style of play, how to myself, all that difference. Yes,

1015
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 1: so it'll happen when it happened, right, I believe. So

1016
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 1: that's the way the game goes. I believe so. Man,

1017
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 1: this is my last question ten years from them. Do

1018
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:01,760
Speaker 1: you see I a a am athlete and pivot doing anything?

1019
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 1: You know I can. I can honestly say I understand

1020
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 1: this space. You know what Charlemagne Angela V did for

1021
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:20,879
Speaker 1: the radio space, which they've been podcasting for years. Yes,

1022
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 1: that's right, right, right, But they've been doing right and

1023
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 1: you know Angela, she's gone off to go do her

1024
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:34,359
Speaker 1: own thing. Right. They've been the example of how what

1025
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 1: longevity looks like media space. Even other people you know

1026
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 1: Ricky smile is just yes, yes, yes, yes, being able

1027
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:51,799
Speaker 1: to run with it. Yes, you know, in longevity we

1028
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 1: call it radio, but that's really like it's podcast. We're

1029
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 1: more long form, you know what I'm saying, and not

1030
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 1: the short form, although our promos are also short formed

1031
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 1: with talking all those But to be able to withstand

1032
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 1: and sustain for years that it's not easy, Like people

1033
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 1: like this ship ain't overnight, It ain't easy. Booking guests

1034
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 1: be a bitch. It can be trying to lot. We

1035
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 1: never even wanted it to come to that. We wanted

1036
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 1: people to understand that me, Ryan and Channing can drive

1037
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 1: a show by itself. But people are enamored, you know,

1038
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 1: getting the conversation with your guests. Yes, they want to

1039
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 1: be able to be enlightened by the guests, seeing the

1040
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 1: different side of the guests. So our thing kind of

1041
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 1: transformed to that. And every now and then we go

1042
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 1: back and say, right now we can, we can. We

1043
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 1: still don't care with with trending topics, right, you know,

1044
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 1: with whatever's going on right, But to really answer your question,

1045
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 1: with the group, you know, the guys that we're with

1046
00:57:56,360 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 1: and the people in the background doing their thing, we

1047
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 1: can be here in ten years, right. You know, I

1048
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 1: can't speak to IA again, I said I I supported

1049
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 1: them in the beginning. I know it's an indirect competition,

1050
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 1: and people say they can rock with both. I get

1051
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 1: that and understand. It ain't no animosity towards anybody that's

1052
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:23,919
Speaker 1: over there. It's good that I understand, and I can

1053
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 1: see the opponent right so I know how to move.

1054
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 1: But yeah, like whatever they do.

1055
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 3: They do, y'all can go on towards There's no business

1056
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 3: to behaved in the future at all.

1057
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 1: It's too many people on your side. It's too many.

1058
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 1: I can't I can't speak to the future because I.

1059
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 2: Don't know right but where you sitting down while.

1060
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 1: I'm sitting on that right here now here today in

1061
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 1: the next month, two three months, a year Outlook, I'm

1062
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:57,920
Speaker 1: gonna say no to that because that bridge I believe

1063
00:58:58,040 --> 00:58:59,439
Speaker 1: was burned and ain't know coming.

1064
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 2: And then you got people on your side, people on my.

1065
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 1: Side that still got some tie ups with with what's

1066
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 1: going on over there. You know the ship I showed

1067
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 1: you on my text message that I can expose, but

1068
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna do. That's deep. You don't do that,

1069
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And yeah, so nah, that

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00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 1: shit ain't gonna happen.

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00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 3: Hey man, I appreciate you. I held you over a

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00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 3: little more Man, I appreciate you, Bro, great conversation and uh,

1073
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 3: you know we locked in. Man, I got your number,

1074
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 3: you got my number.

1075
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 1: Anything you need.

1076
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 3: If I need some help, I'll reach out to you.

1077
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 3: But I really appreciate you coming by. Talk to be tomorrow.

1078
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 3: We're gonna see some of his uh interpretations.

1079
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 1: Whatever. Pushback, man, run it like run it like that's

1080
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 1: that's that's that's my truth obviously. You know sometime we

1081
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 1: can all get we can have our different uh perception

1082
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 1: of situations. Right, you know, he might, but that's really

1083
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 1: that that shit happened in life, so he might see

1084
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 1: it this way. But I can. I can guarantee you

1085
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 1: everything on my dying grandmother. Bruh. That's that's one thousand

1086
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 1: percent transparent, black and white. And I ain't hold ship

1087
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 1: back other than some of the texts that you showed me.

1088
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 1: That that could be crazy because that's a different light.

1089
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 1: That's a whole different thing. That's personal for sure. You

1090
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, b No, I sent him the message.

1091
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 1: I seen him. I showed like what the goon said,

1092
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 1: like people seeing him walking, Bro, like they won't touch

1093
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 1: and I don't do that. Yeah, But like I'm solid

1094
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 1: like I ain't. I I don't claim to even be

1095
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:49,919
Speaker 1: that I came from that backing them up. But I'm

1096
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 1: forty six.

1097
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 3: Years old time and it ain't that serious, man. I mean,

1098
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 3: it's a money at stake, but you know.

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01:00:56,440 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 1: It ain't even like we we we're good. Then it

1100
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:05,280
Speaker 1: ain't on the money side, right we we we. I

1101
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 1: can't speak to his money situation, like, but we're good.

1102
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 1: I got ship lined up setting up for my boys,

1103
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 1: your kids, my daughter. Yeah, but yeah, I can't speak

1104
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 1: to nobody else situation. Man, Yeah, he gonna talk to

1105
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 1: what he talked to.

1106
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:23,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see, man, We'll see. And definitely got to

1107
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 2: do this again.

1108
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 3: I need the whole game, you know, I'll pull up

1109
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 3: on the game man and get all y'all because r C.

1110
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 3: I even want to ask him how he felt even

1111
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 3: taking that position, you know. I also want to ask

1112
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 3: him he called b first, right, I know I heard

1113
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 3: I heard him say that. And I also want to

1114
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 3: ask him is ESPN like, how is that right? Is

1115
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:48,440
Speaker 3: that a threat to ESPN by doing that show right now?

1116
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 2: Maybe not if.

1117
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 1: It is bigger. I don't I don't really know the

1118
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:55,640
Speaker 1: like the way deep part of it. But when we

1119
01:01:55,680 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 1: do first take, and when we go there, there's always

1120
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:05,760
Speaker 1: is an open door, open door return policy where uh,

1121
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 1: the producers and the big wigs who produced that show

1122
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 1: and other shows on the ESPN have extended an open

1123
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:17,960
Speaker 1: invite to the pivot anytime.

1124
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 2: So that would indicate there's no threat.

1125
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:23,200
Speaker 1: There's availability. So they understand.

1126
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 3: They appreciate what he's doing because it's a working thing

1127
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:26,520
Speaker 3: for me.

1128
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:31,480
Speaker 1: Is this too real? Quick? Is after this Kanye thing

1129
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 1: about cancelation and speaking to you know, the Jewish population

1130
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:44,800
Speaker 1: and anti Semitism, anti Semitics and and all that stuff,

1131
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 1: and he talked about cancer and being gagged and can't

1132
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:52,760
Speaker 1: speak to this and shocks upon and Barkley's upon and

1133
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 1: you got the networks behind people pulling strings and shit

1134
01:02:56,800 --> 01:03:01,400
Speaker 1: like to to to really be honest, man, I think

1135
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 1: a lot of these guys are just being opinionated. We're

1136
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 1: evolving slowly evolving into this exactly. The the the bigger networks,

1137
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 1: they see how people gravitate to the independence exactly, which

1138
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:21,360
Speaker 1: is us be independent.

1139
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:25,160
Speaker 2: Transparenty yes, yes, yes, So.

1140
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 1: The networks see that. So back in the day you

1141
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:32,680
Speaker 1: couldn't even say ship on TV. Exactly, they try to

1142
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:39,360
Speaker 1: loosen and granted, producers, they have an agenda to a

1143
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 1: certain extent, they want to lay you up, but then

1144
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:44,640
Speaker 1: your words are your words exactly. And granted they do

1145
01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:48,640
Speaker 1: have the power to edit, but majority of these shows

1146
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 1: are taped with a five six second delay.

1147
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:54,400
Speaker 2: So they can't even cut it.

1148
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:56,720
Speaker 1: If they can cut it, but what they cutting it

1149
01:03:56,840 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 1: just curse words. Right now, they're gonna throw it out

1150
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 1: there because guess what else it brings clicks, eyebonds, they

1151
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 1: bring all of that. So why they're gonna stop Shack

1152
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 1: from saying with Shaq about the Kyrie situation or you know,

1153
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:11,720
Speaker 1: you know this person.

1154
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:14,720
Speaker 3: Do you think they should staying with Kyrie or should

1155
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 3: they speak out against Cari?

1156
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:19,800
Speaker 1: It's I don't think I think whatever.

1157
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:22,720
Speaker 2: Could they be silent if they felt I.

1158
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 1: Think they can easily say no coming. Everybody's uh granted

1159
01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 1: that to say no coming. I think they felt a

1160
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:38,920
Speaker 1: need to speak their opinion on the subject because of

1161
01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 1: that's just their thought, right, my, my, my, my opinion

1162
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 1: on it. I think Kyrie has Kyrie has always had

1163
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:58,200
Speaker 1: an agenda, right the flat the flat earth thing. That's

1164
01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:00,800
Speaker 1: not what I believe me either. You know what I'm

1165
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 1: saying so that's what he believed, so he speaks to it.

1166
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:09,200
Speaker 1: I don't think, well, I don't I know that Kyrie

1167
01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 1: isn't he doesn't believe in anti Semitism. He's not anti Semitic.

1168
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:19,640
Speaker 1: I think he loves all people. You know, at the

1169
01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 1: end of the day. I think when they asked him

1170
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:25,680
Speaker 1: if he's going to apologize to it, his back was

1171
01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:28,640
Speaker 1: against the wall. He was basically saying, I said what

1172
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:31,560
Speaker 1: I said, so I don't condone any hate of any

1173
01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:38,640
Speaker 1: form of fashion. Otherwise obviously they wouldn't call me Freddy flower. Yeah,

1174
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:40,400
Speaker 1: but just trying to be open minded.

1175
01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:45,480
Speaker 2: You know, did they hurt him? Did they hurt him

1176
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:46,640
Speaker 2: speaking out against him?

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01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:51,960
Speaker 1: Did they hurt You gotta understand who blacks When we

1178
01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:55,840
Speaker 1: talk about ownership, you don't see the blacks owning no

1179
01:05:56,000 --> 01:06:01,520
Speaker 1: media outlets, no team franchises, none of that. Right, Well,

1180
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:04,520
Speaker 1: it's one black I think own the media outlet. That's

1181
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 1: my guy who did it? Well, did he has one?

1182
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 1: But also who owns the Weather Channel now and started

1183
01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:15,320
Speaker 1: from comedy? I think it's Byron Allen.

1184
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, okay.

1185
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's successful. Got it from the muddy right to him.

1186
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 1: But when you look at the big picture.

1187
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 2: We're not as effective as we need to be in

1188
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 2: a space.

1189
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:33,480
Speaker 1: Right. I think that, especially after hearing what Nick Cannon said,

1190
01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 1: the dehumanization of an individual is where the Bucks should stop.

1191
01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:42,080
Speaker 1: You know, they have all these different demands that Kyrie

1192
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:45,400
Speaker 1: has to adhere to before he can become eligible to

1193
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 1: play again. I think that it's sort of a it's

1194
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:55,320
Speaker 1: it's dehumanizing him, right, and you got these six things

1195
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:58,720
Speaker 1: you gotta do, which I don't necessarily agree with. Now,

1196
01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:03,320
Speaker 1: if he came to say okay, I am remorsefully apologetic

1197
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:08,920
Speaker 1: because I didn't have all of the uh details into

1198
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:12,640
Speaker 1: this documentary. I ain't seen it. I ain't even see

1199
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:16,440
Speaker 1: what he tweets. Hard to speak to that, but I'm

1200
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:18,640
Speaker 1: looking at the after effect. I know a lot of

1201
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:21,000
Speaker 1: people will hurt, but look at the history of black

1202
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:23,840
Speaker 1: people and our plight, A lot of people will hurt.

1203
01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:27,600
Speaker 1: What do you call when you discriminate against black people,

1204
01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:30,680
Speaker 1: It's called racism exactly. And then when you do it

1205
01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 1: against Jews based on their history and what happened with

1206
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:39,160
Speaker 1: the Holocaust, and and and the in the six million

1207
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:45,160
Speaker 1: deaths you know of the Holocaust, Uh, then uh, anything

1208
01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:50,120
Speaker 1: that's spoken against uh Jewish religion or the Jewish community

1209
01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:55,680
Speaker 1: is considered anti Semitic, right, anti semitism, And because he

1210
01:07:55,800 --> 01:08:00,240
Speaker 1: reposted that, it came across as if he was promoting it, right,

1211
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:02,000
Speaker 1: I can't speak to that.

1212
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:05,040
Speaker 2: Slippery. That's very slippery.

1213
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 1: Is I think that he is sincereous in his apology? Yeah,

1214
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:15,560
Speaker 1: you know of late when they initially asked him. I

1215
01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:17,920
Speaker 1: don't think I should apologize that. But then he came

1216
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:21,479
Speaker 1: out and apologize, not so he can play. We know

1217
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:25,559
Speaker 1: he'll get because because he'll take it on. He's shown that.

1218
01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:28,640
Speaker 1: So it wasn't because of that. It was because he

1219
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:33,439
Speaker 1: potentially went back. And this is just me guessing he

1220
01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:36,080
Speaker 1: could have potentially went back, got some new information, got

1221
01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 1: some new information, whether it's watch the entire documentary.

1222
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:41,920
Speaker 2: Or understood the ramification.

1223
01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:44,719
Speaker 1: Understood everything that going on. I don't He's not a sellout.

1224
01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:49,519
Speaker 1: He's not been and he stood up for the people

1225
01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:57,639
Speaker 1: who have actually been brutally assaulted for years where it's

1226
01:08:58,120 --> 01:09:02,719
Speaker 1: physically verbally understand police brutality what a lot of people

1227
01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:05,439
Speaker 1: think don't exist. But I want to know what's that

1228
01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:09,759
Speaker 1: one term that they use for our race Exactly when

1229
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:15,200
Speaker 1: we are experiencing, yes, yes, experience thing. Yes, So the

1230
01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:19,720
Speaker 1: different religions that are protected versus what's our true identity

1231
01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 1: exactly what was deleted and erased from them?

1232
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:26,080
Speaker 3: And I think we're seeing with Kanye and Carie and

1233
01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:30,559
Speaker 3: others is a searching for that, like what is what's happening?

1234
01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:37,040
Speaker 1: What Kanye is? He is, His attempts are come from

1235
01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:37,400
Speaker 1: a place.

1236
01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:39,040
Speaker 2: He's taking low percentage shots.

1237
01:09:39,160 --> 01:09:39,879
Speaker 1: Low percentage.

1238
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:43,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's taking a lot of low percentage shoes and

1239
01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 3: he had but I understand what a lot.

1240
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:50,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he definitely sacrificed a lot.

1241
01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:53,600
Speaker 1: He sacrificed a lot to try to display a certain message. Es.

1242
01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:57,040
Speaker 1: Part of it I might agree with, and a lot

1243
01:09:57,080 --> 01:10:01,479
Speaker 1: of it the the approach I don't. Yes, right, but

1244
01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:06,799
Speaker 1: you know that's neither here nor there at the moment

1245
01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:16,200
Speaker 1: for me. I hope these guys in their message benefit

1246
01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:19,400
Speaker 1: the people that they're trying to get the message out to,

1247
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:22,799
Speaker 1: which is really just our people. They touch those shots

1248
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:25,280
Speaker 1: that our people, and hope that our people wake.

1249
01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:27,400
Speaker 2: Up, yes, and understand something.

1250
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:30,400
Speaker 1: But not everybody's gonna say that now. As soon as

1251
01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:34,519
Speaker 1: I shoot you down right then, Like Nick Cannon said

1252
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:39,000
Speaker 1: about Buck breaking we're gonna line Kyrie up and say

1253
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:41,120
Speaker 1: you gotta do all these things much like they did

1254
01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:44,640
Speaker 1: back and yes, we bring your biggest, your strongest and

1255
01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:48,120
Speaker 1: break him down. Everybody else gets in line, and people

1256
01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:50,519
Speaker 1: look at it and say, well that was X amount

1257
01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:51,759
Speaker 1: of hundreds of years ago.

1258
01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:55,560
Speaker 2: What they got to do with technique. That's still the technique.

1259
01:10:55,640 --> 01:11:00,479
Speaker 1: Even when you talk about law enforcement indirectly. If we

1260
01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:05,200
Speaker 1: go in and we create a fear factor, hopefully everybody

1261
01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:06,920
Speaker 1: else get in line. But then you have those that

1262
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:09,959
Speaker 1: are going to try to escape the plant exactly exactly.

1263
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:13,360
Speaker 1: That's just the history that's hard to find our people exactly.

1264
01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:15,760
Speaker 3: And I think that's what you're seeing. That's what you're

1265
01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:17,960
Speaker 3: seeing with that, And now I definitely want this is

1266
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:18,519
Speaker 3: a PSA.

1267
01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:18,880
Speaker 1: Nick.

1268
01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:21,439
Speaker 2: I need you on the show for for sure.

1269
01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:24,280
Speaker 1: Even though Nick went through his thing man and you

1270
01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:27,080
Speaker 1: know he get his pushback, and he's still coming to

1271
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:30,360
Speaker 1: try to really educate and speak to the masses about it.

1272
01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 1: You got to commend that, brother man, because it's not easy,

1273
01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:37,519
Speaker 1: you know, but it's truthful. I don't know enough.

1274
01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:42,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's why this dialogue comes right. It's like

1275
01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:44,880
Speaker 3: we need to have these minds in the room. Now

1276
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:49,160
Speaker 3: here's what I'll say. Nick Cannon speaking on the Cayrie

1277
01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:51,519
Speaker 3: urban situation. Lets you know, because he had to go

1278
01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 3: educate himself even more as they try to send him

1279
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:58,280
Speaker 3: through the ringer. But him speaking on it for me

1280
01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:01,639
Speaker 3: was so important because he put it in a way

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Speaker 3: where he understands they understand it. See a lot of

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Speaker 3: times we'll be having these conversations making these points, but

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Speaker 3: we have to structure it in a way where it's

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01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:13,120
Speaker 3: understood by the masses. And I think that that's what

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Speaker 3: he's trying to present, even with that clip that he did,

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Speaker 3: because in my opinion, they don't want the apology, they

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01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:20,600
Speaker 3: want embarrassing.

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Speaker 1: I ain't seen, like I ain't see the clip, yeah,

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01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:26,599
Speaker 1: but I've seen the guidelines of what he was just

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01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:29,400
Speaker 1: speaking here too before he was reading.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean the Nick Canning clip, but the Kyrie situation.

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01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:37,720
Speaker 3: I feel like they don't want the apology, they want embarrassing.

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01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:38,760
Speaker 2: Why would you?

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01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:41,120
Speaker 3: And if if that's twenty things I gotta do, why

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01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:43,760
Speaker 3: can't we keep that under wraps and you bring that

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01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:46,240
Speaker 3: to me and just say hey, here's these six things. Man,

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01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:48,800
Speaker 3: It'll really make us feel better if you know you

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Speaker 3: did this.

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01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:51,280
Speaker 2: You put it out, Hey, he better do this.

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01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:55,240
Speaker 1: It's like right, and that that part of it is

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Speaker 1: where the bart breaking yes comes into play, because is

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Speaker 1: I think every community has their share of Jewish leaders, right,

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01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:10,439
Speaker 1: people that we respect in the community. Yes, But when

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01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:13,880
Speaker 1: they said he has to go and meet with the

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01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:18,559
Speaker 1: Jewish leaders, what community are you talking? Right? Is that

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01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 1: in Miami?

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01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:22,280
Speaker 2: I'm saying your choice, California?

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01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:27,600
Speaker 1: Who are the so called Jewish leaders? Now, granted he

1309
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:31,800
Speaker 1: has been he's express remorse for not knowing. He has

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01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:36,120
Speaker 1: been very apologetic, uh, and he wants to write this,

1311
01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:39,519
Speaker 1: but he also wants to bring attention to when you

1312
01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:46,280
Speaker 1: look at different races, who has actually who's been I

1313
01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:49,720
Speaker 1: guess on the bottom end of this thing, what we

1314
01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:54,080
Speaker 1: call life, it's been those those those right, those right,

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01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:57,920
Speaker 1: those races, namely the Blacks being on the very bottom

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01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:01,240
Speaker 1: of to for sure. So he really these guys are

1317
01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:05,479
Speaker 1: just yelling out for help exactly, And how can we

1318
01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:05,960
Speaker 1: get our.

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01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:08,479
Speaker 2: Confused black confused rich black men?

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01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:09,799
Speaker 1: But that's always been.

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01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:12,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, with there that I've come in the money, I've

1322
01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:15,639
Speaker 3: come into information, I'm confused and I'm looking to see

1323
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:20,519
Speaker 3: Hey this document, Hey what the contracts what's hey, something.

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01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:26,160
Speaker 1: We trusted that documentary to have resources because come from

1325
01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:28,599
Speaker 1: books and this and that. But that's what you gotta

1326
01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:31,599
Speaker 1: do in this day and age. You gotta go and

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01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:35,200
Speaker 1: research and collect the information yourself before you regard it,

1328
01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:39,280
Speaker 1: especially in that position, certainly because it's harmful. Yes, same

1329
01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:42,920
Speaker 1: thing will come in the white Lives Matter shirt. Why

1330
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:46,920
Speaker 1: that shirt when we understand why people said, like, not

1331
01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:50,360
Speaker 1: not the entity black lives matter, the chance that was scamming, yes,

1332
01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:53,800
Speaker 1: but the whole chance. Yes, more than an entity. Yes,

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Speaker 1: we know that, but we understand all lives matter on

1334
01:14:57,080 --> 01:15:00,760
Speaker 1: the on the big scheme of things. But don't discount

1335
01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:03,639
Speaker 1: our message and our fight and what we are trying

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01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:06,280
Speaker 1: to say, because it does. And in that moment, it

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01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:11,200
Speaker 1: didn't seem like black lives mattered. And then he turns

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01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:14,840
Speaker 1: around and wear a shirt that kind of goes when

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Speaker 1: I told him, I want to that's that's it was.

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Speaker 3: It was yeah, and I said them, I said, I said, look,

1341
01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:23,160
Speaker 3: you're confusing your family because I look at us blacks

1342
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:26,360
Speaker 3: like family, especially when we become millionaires and get out

1343
01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:29,880
Speaker 3: there operating amongst these See, once you get billions, you.

1344
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:32,080
Speaker 2: No longer Fred versus loan.

1345
01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:36,960
Speaker 3: It's now the such and such family versus Kanye West.

1346
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:39,880
Speaker 3: He was going up against families like doing business with

1347
01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:43,000
Speaker 3: the Adida's ship and gap shit, these are families that

1348
01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:45,960
Speaker 3: own this. So you got this black dude trying to

1349
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:48,799
Speaker 3: figure out his space without his family.

1350
01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:52,040
Speaker 1: Lost his family that empowered him from saying, as any

1351
01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:55,280
Speaker 1: other billionaire, they want to teach and educate, they don't

1352
01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:59,320
Speaker 1: have time for business and how can they sustain those levels?

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01:15:59,560 --> 01:16:04,360
Speaker 1: Trust me, the billionaires that I've come across, they operate

1354
01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:08,480
Speaker 1: ambient energies.

1355
01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:10,240
Speaker 2: He got to stay up there.

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01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:13,080
Speaker 1: From everything that they involved with and they don't have

1357
01:16:13,160 --> 01:16:16,360
Speaker 1: no time for no bullshit. So but because you crowned

1358
01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:20,360
Speaker 1: this guy with the creative genius and all this, like

1359
01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:22,640
Speaker 1: you gave him a com you have to as a

1360
01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:27,799
Speaker 1: people understand who we're putting confidence in and who we're trusting,

1361
01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:30,320
Speaker 1: because when you look at them and they don't meet

1362
01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:34,000
Speaker 1: the criteria, it's like a letdown, you know what I'm saying.

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01:16:34,040 --> 01:16:36,960
Speaker 1: And that's what happened when they saw those shirts. Then

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01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:39,000
Speaker 1: he come back and say, well, this was the message

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01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:43,440
Speaker 1: I was and I get the message. The jealous I'm jealous.

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01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:45,839
Speaker 2: Of this your message. You confusing your family.

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01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:48,559
Speaker 3: If I'm looking at my house and my kids is confused,

1368
01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:52,160
Speaker 3: I'm doing something wrong. If they ask me, Daddy, why

1369
01:16:52,439 --> 01:16:55,439
Speaker 3: is you really with us? If my family saying that

1370
01:16:55,479 --> 01:16:56,520
Speaker 3: I'm doing something.

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01:16:56,240 --> 01:17:00,200
Speaker 2: Wrongs, yeah, you confuse.

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Speaker 1: Keep it on. But yeah, that's a whole Yeah ship,

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01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:03,440
Speaker 1: that's another.

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Speaker 2: But but man, listen, I appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: Bro.

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Speaker 3: We definitely a locked back in man Fred Taylor. You know,

1377
01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:11,080
Speaker 3: biggest podcast in the world.

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Speaker 1: Let's get it.