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Speaker 1: This this One Bill's Live presented by Calida Health. Alrighty,

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Speaker 1: then here we are another day on One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you. It's Thursday already, we're

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Speaker 1: like closing in on this game fast.

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Speaker 2: I know. We travel tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. Pretty wild, Yeah, really wild. Second preseason

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Speaker 1: camp game coming up for the Bills. That's the short trip.

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Speaker 2: All those years I did spend in the booth doing games.

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Speaker 2: That's the one thing I do not miss is a travel.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I can imagine because unlike those of us who

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Speaker 1: cover the Bills one game one singularly, we get to

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Speaker 1: stay and sleep in our own beds for half of

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Speaker 1: the schedule because they're home games. Every game for you

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Speaker 1: wasn't away game for twenty years plus.

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Speaker 2: If you're with the team, you're fly on a charter.

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Speaker 2: You leave when you get to the airport. For guys

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Speaker 2: you know schlaps like me, you know you're you're going

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Speaker 2: to You're going to the airport, you're walking through security

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Speaker 2: or waiting at the gate, and you're flights delayed, all

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Speaker 2: the flights if yeah, nobody's delayed when you're flying charter

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Speaker 2: flying part it's true, you know, so the only time,

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Speaker 2: the only time I ever remember something like that happened.

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Speaker 2: We had a Saint Louis game back in the day

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Speaker 2: ninety five or something, or maybe ninety six ninety seven.

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Speaker 2: There was a snowstorm in Buffalo. Couldn't land the plane

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Speaker 2: to the prior aviation, dug our cars out and went home. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but that's the only that's the only mishap you ever

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Speaker 2: have with those charters. That's the best way.

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Speaker 1: Commercial is a little different, a little different. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I know you did it for a long time. I

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Speaker 1: did it for about five or six years.

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Speaker 2: We used to have a fine system on my crew.

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Speaker 2: If you started telling the travel like a horrific travel story,

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Speaker 2: you got fined because everybody had one that could top it.

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Speaker 1: Everybody does.

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Speaker 2: It was just like a one.

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Speaker 1: If you do it long enough, you're gonna have one.

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Speaker 2: Oh right, Yeah, I got I got fifty of them,

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Speaker 2: you know. And it's just the way it is. Some years,

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Speaker 2: I'll say this, some years I would go and it

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Speaker 2: would you know, when you go live in Buffalo, as

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Speaker 2: we you know, we choose to do you fly to

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Speaker 2: someplace else you connect through. So in doing so, you

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Speaker 2: got like four flights a weekend. And I've had whole

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Speaker 2: seasons in my career at CBS, whole season where it

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Speaker 2: was smooth as silk, never had a problem. And I've

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Speaker 2: also had the opposite every single week and something was

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Speaker 2: going wrong every single week. I mean, it was relevant.

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Speaker 2: You could just counted on it. Yeah, you literally counted

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Speaker 1: I will say that I did not have knock on

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Speaker 1: a lot of travel issues. But when I did, they

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Speaker 1: all seemed to be crammed into one weekend, right. It

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Speaker 1: was never just I had a trip to Indy, which

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Speaker 1: for an Indie bills that Indie game, I had a misconnection,

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Speaker 1: lost luggage which included my radio equipment, followed by a

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Speaker 1: return flight delayed, which then subsequently missed my next connection,

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Speaker 1: spent the night in Pittsburgh in a hotel. And this

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Speaker 1: is so after all of that, like I'm not getting

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Speaker 1: I'm exhausted, like I'm wiped from the weekend. I walk

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Speaker 1: doesn't work. It's just that is such a small thing.

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Speaker 1: But to put on top of all those other things, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I just you know what I did, I actually just laughed.

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Speaker 2: I laughed out loud.

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Speaker 1: I was like, I think I am paying for all

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Speaker 1: of the four years of smooth flights in one weekend.

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Speaker 2: I was insane in this day and age, I think,

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Speaker 2: And I don't know, I haven't traveled, you know, Well,

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Speaker 2: I guess I've been traveling since I was in my

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Speaker 2: early twenties. The airline industry has never been worse.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, and there are many reasons for that, but

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Speaker 1: some of us, out of the vailing one that I've

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Speaker 1: heard from people in the airline industry they don't have

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Speaker 2: That's exactly what I heard.

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Speaker 1: I don't have enough pilot.

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Speaker 2: I have an extended family. I have a family member

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Speaker 2: who's a pilot, and he says, if they're hiring three

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Speaker 1: And so as a result, you don't have enough pilots.

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Speaker 1: Now you don't have enough planes. So as soon as

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Speaker 2: Well, they don't have. Yeah, and even if your planes

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Speaker 2: there the rout the and the safety regulations are, they

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Speaker 2: may have pilots there, but.

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Speaker 1: They don't have enough sleep.

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Speaker 2: They don't have sleep. They're not allowed.

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Speaker 3: Dude.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, my wife's like got delayed seven hours because the

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Speaker 1: crew that was supposed to fly got in late. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and needed the need the minimum sleep this morning and

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Speaker 1: fly again.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Get they need ten hours between flights on an

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's a thing. It's never been a

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Speaker 2: pilot shortage. There young a lot of young A handful

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Speaker 2: of young people that I know are getting their pilot's licensers.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why you wouldn't you know.

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Speaker 2: Someone have already done it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're doing like ro OTC to get through college,

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Speaker 1: do it that way, and then four years later walk

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Speaker 1: into a pilot's job. They can't. They don't have enough.

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Speaker 2: It's job security, and it's job security, great benefit, you know,

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Speaker 2: all of that. It's all of it's a nice it's

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Speaker 2: a nice career.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Plus you you know, in your off time you get

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Speaker 2: free flight anywhere you want.

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Speaker 1: To do the dad joke there it had. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's a career that has its ups and downs. So

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Speaker 1: all right, I think we've talked enough about traveling. What

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Speaker 1: it's a short trip down to Pittsburgh for this weekend's game.

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Speaker 2: I used to drive to Pittsburgh in sit a fly.

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Speaker 1: It's not a bad drive.

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Speaker 2: I've done it well, you know, like we always do,

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Speaker 2: going from your house to the airport waiting to you know,

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Speaker 2: then and then fly there and then get your bags

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Speaker 2: on all that stuff. It's quicker to drive from your

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Speaker 1: Probably is, Probably is as far as Saturday's game is concerned.

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Speaker 1: Sean McDermott, addressing the media this morning, said, the starters

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Speaker 1: for the Bills we'll play a quarter and a half

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Speaker 1: on Saturday against the Steelers, including Josh Allen. Coach McDermott

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Speaker 1: said that they decided this preseason to go back to

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Speaker 1: twenty one and pre COVID, rather than barely having starters

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Speaker 1: if you remember so, a change they felt was necessary

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Speaker 1: kind of mathematical gymnastics and analytics they did on that

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Speaker 1: get ready for the season. And here's the other thing

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Speaker 1: I wonder, Steve, and tell me what you think about this.

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Speaker 1: The Bills are one of only a handful of teams

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Speaker 1: wonder if that prompted coach McDermott and his staff to say, hey,

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Speaker 1: we got to get live reps for the starters, because

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Speaker 1: you know, those joint practices are ratcheted up from a

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Speaker 1: regular practice against your own players.

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Speaker 2: Right. A couple of things. First, the getting your starters

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Speaker 2: to play, I think it is one thousand percent feedback

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Speaker 2: from the players themselves. You do, okay, give me like

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Speaker 1: A quarter and a half is pretty significant.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm telling you. One thousand percent is

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Speaker 2: the players. It's Josh's Diggs, those guys. Let's play for

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Speaker 2: a quarter and a half and then that's it, all right. Secondly,

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Speaker 2: the joint practice thing, I think the Bills are a

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Speaker 2: don't need to find anything out about these guys, most

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Speaker 2: of the important players. I think they're at a different

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Speaker 1: All right, So now let me ask you this question.

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Speaker 1: So the starters play a quarter and a half on Saturday,

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Speaker 1: they probably don't play in the preseason finale, right, So

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Speaker 1: now you're going from August nineteenth to September eleventh between

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Speaker 1: You're okay with that? It's almost a month, Yeah, well, yes,

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Speaker 2: I'm yeah, three weeks. I said. There's nothing that says

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Speaker 2: but they are. I think it is an adjustment for

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Speaker 2: what they've done in the past, and this is kind

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Speaker 2: of trying to get something better that they haven't gotten

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Speaker 2: good enough in the past. So it's an another step

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Speaker 2: towards what they're doing. And I think there is something

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Speaker 2: I think, like I said, I think there's something to

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Speaker 2: the fact that you've got a quarterback in Josh Allen

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Speaker 2: who's already elite. He's twenty seven years old, he's in

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Speaker 2: the absolute prime of his career. And you got Steph Diggs,

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Speaker 2: same thing, you got your offense. All this, all these

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Speaker 2: You don't you know Poyer and hiding in a play

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Speaker 2: I think this is a roster that is of the

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Speaker 2: age and experience, particularly in the same system for all

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Speaker 2: these years. They're they're at a different place than some

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Speaker 2: of these teams because it was like every head coach

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Speaker 2: the Bills had wanted to do these joint practices because

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Speaker 2: they need to find out, you know, they want to

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Speaker 2: find out about how it's going. And I want to see

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Speaker 2: him against somebody else because it helps their evaluation. You know,

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Speaker 2: how's he how's he looking? I see him doing okay

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Speaker 2: against our guy. But our roster isn't what it all is,

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Speaker 2: you know, our roster, you know, back in the drought

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Speaker 2: and stuff, they're struggling with question marks all over their roster.

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Speaker 2: I think they're you know, when you go those joint practices,

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Speaker 2: that's I think that's one of the reasons that you

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Speaker 2: do it is because you need to find more out

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Speaker 2: about the guys you're you've got on your roster than

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Speaker 2: your own guys can tell you about them. You know

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying. The competition with a bad football team

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Speaker 2: every day doesn't tell you as much as it does

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Speaker 2: against maybe somebody who's got some better players.

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Speaker 1: That's fair.

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Speaker 1: as we usually do in the AFC. Steve the Miami

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Speaker 1: a visit today. Wouldn't be surprised if they sign him

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Speaker 1: because they need help for Ronald Darby. That's a nice

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Speaker 1: move be going back to near home. I believe he's

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Speaker 1: a Maryland native if I remember right, So nice move

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Speaker 1: for him and the Ravens need help. They are down people.

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Speaker 1: Unfortunate bit of news out of Colts camp wide receiver

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Speaker 1: Ashton Doolan, who we just saw here last week against

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Speaker 1: the Bills season ending ACL injury in last night's practice.

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Speaker 1: His season is over before it began. You hate to

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Speaker 1: see it, but it seemingly happens every single summer in

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Speaker 1: the training camp in the preseason, somebody suffers a season

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Speaker 1: ending injury. Feel bad for him. I hope he gets

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Speaker 1: healthy soon.

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Speaker 2: The clubs take super they take super conservative stances on

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Speaker 2: risking their players, but they got to practice hard to

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Speaker 2: be ready to play. And you've got guys like head

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Speaker 2: coaches like Mike Tomlin who point out that, hey, you

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Speaker 2: got to go hard, and you get calloused to it,

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Speaker 2: you know, you get used to it. And while it's

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Speaker 2: hard to argue with the anecdotal evidence that you see,

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Speaker 2: when that's the case, the teams that practice really hard

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Speaker 2: and hit and do all that tend to come out

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Speaker 2: and be able to do that on in irregular game.

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Speaker 2: But by the same token, then you get guy who

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Speaker 2: a guy who just non contact loses an ACL you know,

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Speaker 2: and all this stuff we see in preseason games where

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Speaker 2: guys get card off it. There's just no way around

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Speaker 2: the physicality of the game. And that's why guys like

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Speaker 2: we've been talking about this Makai Beckton and all these

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Speaker 2: huge guys that were they're so rare. It's not just

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Speaker 2: that they're big. Mackai Beckton is this big guy. He

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Speaker 2: should be able to play for as long as he wants,

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Speaker 2: but he he doesn't want to. He's got he's got

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Speaker 2: like his motor is set on idol. He's he's got

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Speaker 2: he's got this great op you know, he's got this

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Speaker 2: great job. He's a tackle for the New York jetson

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Speaker 2: and he just coasts. You get guys like that everywhere

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Speaker 2: because the game's really hard, and guys that are like

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Speaker 2: my Kay Becht and some of these other guys you'll

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Speaker 2: see even down the roster, even on the bills and

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Speaker 2: all these they've been so big their entire lives. They've

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Speaker 2: never been taxed, they've never been maxed out. They've never

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Speaker 2: been maxed out. They've never had to push themselves, and

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Speaker 2: they don't know what it's like, and it scares them

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Speaker 2: and it hurts. It's too hard, and I don't I'm

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Speaker 2: not saying that. I'm not saying that to be it's

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Speaker 2: too hard. I'm not saying that to be you're just

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Speaker 2: speaking fact. That's way it is. They've never had to

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Speaker 2: and they're not used to doing it now as grown

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Speaker 2: men going against grown men who do have a little

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Speaker 2: attitude and some grit, they crumble, they just do it.

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Speaker 2: They just start to survive instead of thrive. It's a

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Speaker 2: hard game. That's why football is so compelling.

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Speaker 4: It's hard because it weeds out there. You guys, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it hurts, and you got to be ready for that.

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Speaker 4: You got to be ready for that. And and some people,

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Speaker 4: not just football, but some people don't want any part

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Speaker 4: of that. And I okay, that's nothing against them. They're

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Speaker 4: they're built like that, and you can't be built like.

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Speaker 2: That and be that way in the NFL. So that's

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Speaker 2: why you get all these guys that look the part,

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Speaker 2: and it's the old adage. They look like Tarzan and

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Speaker 2: they play like Jane not to be. That's an old saying.

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Speaker 2: It's not me. I'm I apologize everybody's offended by that,

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Speaker 2: but that's an old it's an old adage. You know,

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Speaker 2: the guy looks like a warrior and he's not.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's back, that's him so far.

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Speaker 2: So I'm you know, that's why it's it's and it's

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Speaker 2: a delicate balance we've been talking about. You want these

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Speaker 2: guys to show that they want, but when they start,

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Speaker 2: the whole team starts showing they want and you got

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Speaker 2: like nine guys go down with injuries, and it's like,

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Speaker 2: now your whole team and your whole season sabotage just

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Speaker 2: because you couldn't. You know, it's it's a it's that's

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Speaker 2: the art of it, you know, it's the art, it's

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Speaker 2: the games. It's why it's compelling. That's why the game

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Speaker 2: is compelling to watch. But people can't take their eyes

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Speaker 2: off it. This thing's an eight hundred pound gorilla. Everybody

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Speaker 2: wants to watch it, and every streaming service wants a

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Speaker 2: piece of it, Every network wants a piece of it,

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Speaker 2: every radio station, a TV station, and every town wants

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Speaker 2: a piece of it. Because you can't take it's like

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Speaker 2: an ongoing car wreck. Man. You can't not watch.

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Speaker 1: A bit of Cincinnati Bengals news. Joe Mixon found not

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Speaker 1: guilty of aggravated menacing. Mixon was accused of pulling a

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Speaker 1: gun during a road rage incident in January. He chose

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Speaker 1: to be tried by a judge instead of a jury.

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Speaker 1: Judge found him not guilty. Mixon did not testify. His

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Speaker 1: lawyers did not call any witnesses, arguing that the prosecution

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Speaker 1: had not proven its case. A woman testified that Mixon

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Speaker 1: pulled a gun threatened her during a traffic dispute the

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Speaker 1: day before the Bengals Divisional playoff game against the Bills.

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Speaker 1: Prosecutors suggested Mixon was rushing to catch the team flight

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Speaker 1: to Buffalo and may have been driving erradically as a result.

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Speaker 1: If Mixon had been convicted, he could have faced up

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Speaker 1: to six months in jail. So he's off the hook

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Speaker 1: and ready to go for the season. And that is

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Speaker 1: around the NFL presented by coliud of Health, your official

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Speaker 1: healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills. Topic of discussion today, Steve.

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Speaker 1: We did part one yesterday, which was which player would

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Speaker 1: you like to see more from in the upcoming preseason game.

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Speaker 1: On offense today we flip it which Bills player are

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Speaker 1: you hoping to see more from in the preseason game

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Speaker 1: on Saturday against Pittsburgh on the defensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 1: You can let us know at eight h three zero

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Speaker 1: five point fifty one eight eight eight five point fifty

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Speaker 1: two five fifty Those are the numbers. There are lines

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Speaker 1: open at this time, so we encourage you to jump

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Speaker 1: on if you have a player in mind that maybe

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Speaker 1: you saw something you liked in preseason game number one

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Speaker 1: and you want to see a little bit more to

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Speaker 1: feel better about maybe uh, maybe a guy you liked

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Speaker 1: and you want to be convinced of it. And preseason

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Speaker 1: game two. Maybe it's somebody you've really been pulling for

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Speaker 1: and you saw nothing from him that satisfied you in

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Speaker 1: preseason game one, and you're like, come on, man, get

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Speaker 1: it in gear. I want you to make the roster.

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Speaker 1: You let us know who that person is at eight

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Speaker 1: oh three oh five fifty one eight eight five fifty

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Speaker 1: two five point fifty. As always, you can hit us

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Speaker 1: up on the tweet sheet at one Bill's Live, Steve

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Speaker 1: and I take a break here back in a second

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Speaker 1: one Bill's Live, presented by Colid of Health. It's Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bill's Radio. All right back here on one Bill's Live

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown. Steve's tasking with you on a Thursday, just

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Speaker 1: two days away from Bill's preseason game number two at

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Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers at Heinz Field in Pittsburgh. Scheduled kickoff

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Speaker 1: six thirty pm. Steve will be on the TV side,

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Speaker 1: I will be on the radio side, So tune in

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Speaker 1: whether you're driving around or parked on your couch in

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Speaker 1: your living room. Yeah. Let's get to the phones, though,

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Speaker 1: where we are asking you which defensive player on the

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Speaker 1: Bills roster needs to show you more in preseason game

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Speaker 1: number two. We go to the phones and we start

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Speaker 1: with Tom on the west side. What do you got

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Speaker 1: for us? Tom?

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Speaker 5: Hey, guys, the first question I got for is yesterday

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Speaker 5: you were taught Will. Steve was just talking about guys

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Speaker 5: pushing each other in training camp and preseason for position

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Speaker 5: and making the team. And I'm wondering if that'st what

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Speaker 5: happens to the linebackers this year or even other position

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Speaker 5: groups in previous years, because I mean, they all dropped.

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Speaker 5: And then I'm wondering what free agent linebackers are available

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Speaker 5: on the market, because I tried to Google it and

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Speaker 5: it said Jerry Hughes. And Jerry Hughes isn't a linebacker.

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Speaker 5: He's a defensive lineman. But anyway on the defront. Stands

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Speaker 5: to your question, I'd like to see more out of

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Speaker 5: Boogie Bash him than Tyroll Dodson because right now, that's

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Speaker 5: that's what we got there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I get what you're saying. I thought Boogie flashed

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Speaker 1: in that first preseason game. Steve made some plays, got

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Speaker 1: a sack. I like what I saw out of Boogie.

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Speaker 1: And you know, we heard from Brandon Bean he explained

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Speaker 1: to us. Or no, it was coach McDermott that explained

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Speaker 1: it to us when we were on with when he

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Speaker 1: was on with us last week at training camp. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he said Boogie spent the whole off season at a

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Speaker 1: facility out in Arizona, just training the whole offseason.

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Speaker 2: Right. Yeah. And if you're asking for like other names

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Speaker 2: who are available, like for to be inside linebackers free agent,

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Speaker 2: the names I've got at the top Kyle van neyd No.

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Speaker 1: He signed somewhere, did he? Yeah, he's not.

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Speaker 2: He's not on here.

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Speaker 1: I think he signed with the Raiders just a couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks ago.

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Speaker 2: Let's see. Yeah, I don't know, Okay, this is this

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Speaker 2: needs to be updated then j Jayon Brown, Jared Davis,

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Speaker 2: John Bostick, Mikah Kaiser, Jermaine Carter, Canai Moga. There's there's

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Speaker 2: names out there, There's some guys out there, but I

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Speaker 2: mean it's a little late.

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Speaker 1: It is late, I think it would say. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they've got two players that were nicked up at the

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Speaker 1: middle linebacker position. Although Baile Inspector came back into the

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Speaker 1: practice setting on a limited basis today from his back ailment,

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Speaker 1: I don't believe Terrell Bernard is gonna make it back

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Speaker 1: to play in this game this weekend from his hamstring injury.

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Speaker 1: So that'll be two preseason games missed for Terrell Bernard.

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Speaker 1: Real tough break for him. So you're looking at Tyrrell

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Speaker 1: Dodson getting a lot of run, AJ Klein getting a

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Speaker 1: lot of run, and Baylen Spector getting a lot of

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Speaker 1: run at the middle linebacker position. And it's not like

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Speaker 1: the Bills are down a man because they'll have Tyler

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Speaker 1: Mattikaevich up now that he's off pup. He missed last

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Speaker 1: week's preseason game. But he's healthy now from the calf injury,

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Speaker 1: so he's another middle linebacker option to line up there

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Speaker 1: at the position in the absence of Terrell Bernard. So

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Speaker 1: numbers wise, they're okay. And yeah, I get why you

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Speaker 1: want to see more of Tyrel Dodson because he's in

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Speaker 1: the throes of a competition right now and he's going

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Speaker 1: to probably get a quarter and a half with Bernard

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Speaker 1: out of the equation. I think we're all expecting Dodson

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Speaker 1: to start there because they need to find out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Baile inspector seems to have dropped off the radar,

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Speaker 2: mattic Kevitch hasn't been available. They're down bodies, so you

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Speaker 2: have to you got to see how how it progresses.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 2: The fact that Bernard, uh, you know, they got some

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Speaker 2: injuries to that spot throws a wrench into the evaluation.

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Speaker 2: But we'll we'll see. Certainly, Dorian Williams showed up in

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Speaker 2: for a minute against the Colts. We'll probably get a

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Speaker 2: we'll probably get a belly full of him taking reps

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Speaker 2: this week. Yes, yeah, we'll see. I'm a little bit concerned,

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Speaker 2: starting to get concerned that we haven't seen like a

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Speaker 2: definitive statement.

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Speaker 1: Oh that no one has separated themselves, right, Yeah, And

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Speaker 1: coach expressed that sentiment today, well, last week he expressed

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Speaker 1: it also with respect to the cornerback two position. You

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Speaker 1: still have three guys in that mix in Benford, Elam

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Speaker 1: and Jackson, and no one has definitively separated themselves in

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Speaker 1: that battle either. And yeah, it does give you a

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Speaker 1: little concern because I think in an ideal world, as

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Speaker 1: a coach, you're hoping that the players play on the

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Speaker 1: field makes the decisi for you, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: So you're not saying, well, I think this guy is

648
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: the best answer here, but he really hasn't separated himself

649
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 1: in a way that I had hoped he would. But

650
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: we think he's the best guy. Where somebody just comes

651
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 1: out and snatches it and says, this is my job.

652
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: I'm starting because I'm this much better than everybody else

653
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: you got in the mix here, right, That hasn't happened.

654
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,839
Speaker 2: Everybody wants it to be easy, but at the same time,

655
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:26,879
Speaker 2: you want as many good players as you can get,

656
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 2: so it's easy to sit there and say, well, you know,

657
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 2: it's either one of two things right now. One at

658
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 2: the cornerback spot, like it kind of looks this way.

659
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 2: At the cornerback spot, you got a bunch of guys

660
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 2: who have started games and played pretty well there at linebacker,

661
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,800
Speaker 2: none of that's true. It's like you got too many corners.

662
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 2: You're deep at that spot, you're looking good. You got

663
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 2: guys that's hard to even decide who you're gonna play

664
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 2: at linebacker. You can't find anybody that you even like.

665
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 2: That's why it kind of looks like right now, so

666
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,919
Speaker 2: and you have an injury and yes, and now there's

667
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 2: a big wrench in the mix over there because you

668
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 2: don't know what it's gonna you know, who could really

669
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 2: take hold of it, because nobody's healthy enough to do it.

670
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 2: So that's that's kind of where you're at at the

671
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 2: two different spots. Corner you seem strong a linebacker, there's

672
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 2: too many unknowns to think that.

673
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: Right. Let's go back to the phones and to Steven Rochester.

674
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 1: What we got for Steve.

675
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 6: Hey, guys, Brownie, you sort of stole my thunder. My

676
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 6: problem is I'd like to see kyer Elam step forward.

677
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 6: I think with our middle linebacker position as strong as

678
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 6: our defensive line is, we could get by with a

679
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 6: little weaker middle linebacker, but having CB two, having Tyler

680
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 6: Elim as highest draftic as he was, and all the

681
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 6: promise that he showed coming out of college, he just

682
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 6: hasn't stepped up for me and grabbed that. I want

683
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 6: him to be the definitive CB two, and I think

684
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,280
Speaker 6: he needs to do it this preseason.

685
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 1: All right, that's fair, And I think You're not alone, Steve.

686
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: There's a lot of people hoping that a guy that

687
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: has the physical capabilities of a Kaye Elam making him

688
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,320
Speaker 1: worthy of being a first round pick, to seize that job.

689
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,359
Speaker 1: And there's still time to do it. It's just that

690
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 1: neither he nor Ben nor Jackson have stepped up to

691
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 1: do it. I mean, Dane Jackson had an interception gift

692
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: wrapped for him last week against the Colts. But yeah,

693
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 1: I mean people are like, well, come on, now, Elim's

694
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 1: a first round pick. How come he hasn't jumped up

695
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: and snatched the job. There's two preseason games to do it.

696
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 1: We'll see if it happens.

697
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think they really like him. I think

698
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:48,839
Speaker 2: they like they feel obligated and some affection towards Dane

699
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 2: Jackson as well. Christian Benford was a surprise at training

700
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:56,800
Speaker 2: camp last year, mostly I think because of his personality

701
00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 2: and because of his physical size and gifts. So they

702
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 2: all bring something to the table that the club really likes. Obviously,

703
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 2: they really like Kyer eling coming out, and I think

704
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 2: I think that's starting. I from what I've seen, I'm

705
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 2: kind of starting to lean towards Kye Hard like he's

706
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 2: gonna be the guy. But I could be way off base,

707
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:23,399
Speaker 2: because you know, all we do is watch a few

708
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 2: reps at practice and watch them rotate in and out,

709
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 2: so we'll see how it goes. But I think you're

710
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 2: gonna get a chance to see Kyer Elam, and I

711
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 2: think you'll get some information as too, as if the

712
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 2: defense goes out there and they that first defense goes

713
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 2: out and has a couple of three and outs and

714
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 2: they play through the first quarter and they haven't given

715
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:43,720
Speaker 2: up a first down or something like that, and Kyer

716
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 2: Elam is a part of that. I think that. And

717
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 2: then he sits down, I think that tells you a

718
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 2: lot about what you need to know. Whoever goes in

719
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 2: first and sits down first and sits out the longest

720
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 2: is probably the guy with a leg up on the position.

721
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,320
Speaker 1: Let's go to George in form earing at do you

722
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: go for us?

723
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 7: Georgie, like I said that, we're a month, we're relatively

724
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 7: late stage of this, and we don't have a linebacker.

725
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 7: I think number one. I think, but I think we

726
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 7: signed the wrong guy and we should never let the

727
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:22,919
Speaker 7: Edmonds go young twenty five years old, another five could

728
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 7: five years in front of him, and now and now

729
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 7: we're scrambled, and then we turn around and pay the

730
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 7: nose tackle. I don't get it.

731
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 1: At Oliver, Yeah, yeah, you like, Yeah, that's fine. I mean,

732
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 1: that's your opinion. You're certainly entitled to.

733
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 2: Said of two yesterday they signed identical contracts.

734
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, essentially the same money. For the most part, I

735
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 1: will say that I would I would slightly disagree with

736
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: your assessment of the middle linebacker competition as a scramble.

737
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: I don't think it's that they had a plan in place.

738
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: They had many months in this offseason to assess how

739
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 1: they were gonna handle the loss of Tremaine Edmunds in

740
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: free agency. They chose to do an in house competition

741
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 1: with the talent they had at their disposal. Tyrel Dotson,

742
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:14,320
Speaker 1: Baile inspector Terrell Bernard, young players who have been in

743
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: the pipeline. Tyrel Dotson's in his fourth season. It's not

744
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 1: like you just got here last year. Now, the other

745
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 1: two did. They were draft choices in the twenty twenty

746
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: two draft class. But I think to call it a

747
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 1: scramble is a little of a little bit of a misnomer.

748
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: Just because there isn't clarity at the position yet doesn't

749
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,320
Speaker 1: mean it's a scramble. It doesn't mean you got coaches

750
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 1: running around upstairs going, oh my god, what are we

751
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 1: gonna do? Oh my god, what are we gonna do?

752
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 1: They just don't have a definitive answer as to who

753
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 1: from their pool of candidates is going to be the guy,

754
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: and who knows By the end of Saturday night this weekend,

755
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:55,359
Speaker 1: they may know somebody lights it up on Saturday and

756
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 1: puts their stamp on the job decision made. I mean,

757
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:00,800
Speaker 1: it could be over as soon as Saturday for all that.

758
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and we don't know. We don't know a

759
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 2: lot about how they feel about these guys or what

760
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,399
Speaker 2: each one of them needs to do because they all

761
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 2: have different strengths and weaknesses. So the coaching staff's in

762
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 2: there going we need more from we need this and

763
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 2: this from this guy. We need that and that from

764
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 2: the other guy, and we need those and those from

765
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,760
Speaker 2: this other guy. Uh if one of those guys starts

766
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 2: to show all of that and compliment is what they

767
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 2: know about him and what his strengths are and what

768
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 2: his you know, and then work on his weaknesses and

769
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 2: all all of a sudden show up like we saw

770
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,959
Speaker 2: Terrell Dodson early in training camp. Rann and we talked

771
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 2: about this at length. Dodson comes in and we knew

772
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 2: the guy is a good run stuffer. He likes the contact.

773
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 2: He's one of He's an old school middle linebacker who

774
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 2: comes up and you know, puts his head in the

775
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 2: chest and the chin of a offensive lineman and goes

776
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 2: through him to get the ball. He's one of those guys.

777
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 2: His problem was it's a throwing league. Now. Was he

778
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 2: going to be able to turn around, run sideways or

779
00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 2: at an angle away from the line of scrimmage and

780
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 2: get into a zone drop or pick up a line

781
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 2: of tight end and carry the tight end down the

782
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,240
Speaker 2: middle of the field. Was he gonna be able to cover?

783
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 2: And you and I both watched He's way different this

784
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 2: year than he has been in the past in his coverage.

785
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 2: He has worked on it. There's no question about it.

786
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 2: The guy showed up and had made some progress in

787
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 2: something the club had obviously told him he needed to

788
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 2: work on and so.

789
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:26,800
Speaker 1: Better in coverage.

790
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 2: Really, so that's what the club is gonna want to see.

791
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 2: That's what the club is gonna want to see. Now.

792
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 2: Whatever is keeping him from being the guy and being

793
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,879
Speaker 2: proclaimed the guy, I don't know, but that's what we're

794
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 2: and that's what you know they're looking at with not

795
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 2: just Dodson but also with Dorian Williams and Terrell or

796
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 2: Bernard and Specter in the whole gang. We don't know

797
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 2: what all the ins and outs of that are, but

798
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 2: certainly you and I have noticed that Dodson showed up different.

799
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 1: Break time for us here. When we come back, stay

800
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 1: right where you are. Van in Atlanta's going to lead

801
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 1: us off, along with Mike and Orchard Park in scott

802
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: and Florida. Stay right where you are. We'll get to

803
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 1: you and get your answer for which defensive player you

804
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 1: need to see more from in preseason game number two

805
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,200
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806
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:28,080
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807
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:31,160
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808
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809
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 1: to the phones where we're asking you what defensive player

810
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: on Buffalo's roster would you like to see a little

811
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 1: bit more from in preseason game number two, and to

812
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 1: Van in Atlanta, we go, what do you got for his? Van?

813
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 1: You're on one Bill's Live.

814
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 8: Hey guys, how you guys doing today?

815
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: Doing well?

816
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 8: Hey? The first player that I wanted to talk about, well,

817
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 8: not really talk about, but answer your question, is a

818
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 8: j I think the jury is still out on him.

819
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 8: I rarely want to see him do good. I really

820
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,839
Speaker 8: really really want to see him do good, but just

821
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:17,240
Speaker 8: haven't seen enough. We need these defensive linemen to really

822
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 8: come through for us man, that's what they were drafted for.

823
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 8: I really kJ Finess to do good, but it's just

824
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 8: not enough.

825
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: Why tell me, tell real quick, Van, tell me why

826
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:29,879
Speaker 1: you're hung up on Epinessa so much?

827
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 8: Well, I mean, honestly, I'm a big ten guy. Okay,

828
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 8: so you know him coming from Iowa, big ten as

829
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 8: a whole. You know, they produced a lot of defensive linemen,

830
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 8: I mean the Bolsa brothers, I can name a you know,

831
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 8: some others. But with him, you know, they were messing

832
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:52,959
Speaker 8: with his weight, with his playing weight.

833
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 9: I don't know.

834
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 8: If that had a lot to do with his production,

835
00:44:56,480 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 8: you know, going from to eighty to to sixty or

836
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 8: whatever his plan was in Iowa. You know, they were

837
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,839
Speaker 8: messing with that a little bit. I don't know what's

838
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 8: to deal with that. You guys could be able to

839
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,320
Speaker 8: tell me a little bit more of how that works,

840
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 8: for how that plays into production. But ever since they

841
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 8: drafted him, I thought he was really going to be

842
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 8: a ten to twelve SAT guy from the moment we

843
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 8: drafted him, and you know, just haven't seen a whole lot.

844
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 2: You're right, Yeah, I think I would agree, particularly given

845
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 2: his draft status. So I think you would expect more

846
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 2: from a guy drafted that high. I think you could

847
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 2: make a case of Boogie Basham, who's drafted you know

848
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 2: around later has been more effective for whatever reason.

849
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:49,800
Speaker 8: And yeah, both second round picks.

850
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I would say they yeah, I would agree

851
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 2: with you. I would say it's put up or shut

852
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 2: up time for me in this training camp. I'm not

853
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:03,359
Speaker 2: I mean, they got some guys that can go. You're

854
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 2: bringing Leonard Floyd and Von Miller, and you got those

855
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:10,760
Speaker 2: guys on the edge along with Greg Rousseau. That drops

856
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 2: a couple of notches when Vaughn and Leonard Floyd got hired,

857
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 2: that they go in the top and everybody else drops

858
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 2: off of the bottom. So if you were at the

859
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:25,479
Speaker 2: bottom two rotation guys on that roster before those guys

860
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:29,240
Speaker 2: got here, you're done because Greg Russeau isn't going anywhere.

861
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:34,439
Speaker 2: So yeah, there's less room on this roster now because

862
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:36,760
Speaker 2: Leonard Floyd ain't going anywhere, Right, Van.

863
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 1: You had a set you said you had a second

864
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: person in mind too, am I right?

865
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 8: Yeah? The wide receiver that caught the touchdown Trellas, Yeah, yeah,

866
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 8: and Alan Austin with him in particular, you know him

867
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 8: coming from Oregon State. I didn't see too you know,

868
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 8: I'm the East Coast guy, so I didn't watch too

869
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 8: much of West Coast games. But the fact that he

870
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:08,919
Speaker 8: was drafted at the seventh round, no matter what year,

871
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 8: probably since twenty sixteen, the Bills have always kept a

872
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 8: seventh rounder. I don't know why. Maybe the talent is there,

873
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 8: maybe the player just you know, he just has that

874
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 8: hit factor. I don't know what it is, but if

875
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 8: we could continue that, I hope Alex Austin is, you know,

876
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 8: one of those players that we get to keep for

877
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 8: you know, for a long time.

878
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:36,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, it would certainly be nice. I think what's working

879
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 1: in his favor is the fact that he's been the

880
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 1: beneficiary of getting a lot of reps out there on

881
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: the practice field as a rookie seventh round draft choice,

882
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 1: which by no means is ever guaranteed on any NFL roster,

883
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 1: let alone one as good as this one, with the

884
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 1: depth they have at the corner position. But I think

885
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,919
Speaker 1: what's working in his favor is the fact that right

886
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 1: now there are only seven corners on the roster, so

887
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:06,840
Speaker 1: he's getting regular rotational reps through the system during the

888
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 1: team periods of practice. So he's really been afforded for

889
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:14,240
Speaker 1: a seventh round rookie, he's really been afforded a healthy

890
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 1: opportunity here to prove he belongs on this roster.

891
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 2: He's getting some looks. Yeah, no question. And and I'll

892
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 2: say this, yeah, I'm not gonna poop poo what you

893
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,720
Speaker 2: said about everybody who they always keep a seventh rounder

894
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 2: Christian Benfords don't fall off the truck very often.

895
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 1: Dane Jackson's a seventh rounder. Yeah, Jack Anderson was an

896
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:37,800
Speaker 1: offensive lineman who was a seventh rounder who made this roster,

897
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 1: then got put on the practice squad and then got

898
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 1: poached by Philadelphia.

899
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 2: Here's the thing, this is not the same roster it

900
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 2: was four years ago or or five years ago for sure.

901
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 2: So they don't keep seventh rounders just as a tradition,

902
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 2: you know. They keep them because they can play, and

903
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,280
Speaker 2: they can they're better than the guys that are ahead

904
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 2: of them. So yeah, I get the seventh rounder thing.

905
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 2: They always keep one. But don't get caught up in that.

906
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 2: Just have him keep the right guy.

907
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, we have to take a break here. We could

908
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: talk a little bit about the guy and the other

909
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 1: guy you mentioned, because it's a guy that's caught your

910
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 1: eye to Tyrrel Shavers. Also coming your way in our

911
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 1: number two, we'll hear from the two players who addressed

912
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 1: the media after practice today, LaTavia is Murray and Andy Isabella.

913
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:35,359
Speaker 1: They're coming your way in hour number two as well.

914
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: Here on one Bill's Live presented by Colida Health, It's

915
00:49:37,600 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio. This One Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health.

916
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 1: All right, here will be on a Thursday hour number

917
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: two One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you,

918
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 1: and we closed the last hour talking about some players.

919
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 1: And while he's not a defensive player, we'll discuss him anyway.

920
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: Topico discussion today, incidentally, is what defensive player on the

921
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 1: Bill's roster would you like to see more from? In

922
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 1: preseason game number two, a defensive player was mentioned by

923
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 1: our last caller, Van in Atlanta, which was aj Epanessa.

924
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 1: But he also said he'd like to see a little

925
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 1: more from Tyrell Shaver. He caught his eye in the

926
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 1: last game. He caught Steve Tasker's eye as well. And

927
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:08,359
Speaker 1: there are some things to like about Tyrrel Shaver is right,

928
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 1: mister Tasker.

929
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 2: There are He's six four to two eleven, he's got

930
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:14,800
Speaker 2: good speed, runs routes, and he's got a big catch radius.

931
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 2: And when I watch him play, I you know, I'm

932
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 2: I kind of tend to see the great stuff. But

933
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 2: you gotta acknowledge he had the most up and down day.

934
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 2: I said this in the first last show last week.

935
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 2: He had the most up and down day against the Colts.

936
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 2: He had a tipped he bawled right through his hands

937
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 2: on a little quick screen and it turned into the

938
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:37,359
Speaker 2: pick six going the other way. Then he also drew

939
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 2: a penalty down the field on the defense, which was

940
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 2: a positive play. And then of course he caught the

941
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:45,319
Speaker 2: touchdown pass going into the end zone to the tunnel end.

942
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 2: Just the most up and down day you could have

943
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:52,839
Speaker 2: as a guy. But I like the upside, and I

944
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 2: and I, you know, guys get smart, guys get better,

945
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 2: and you got to think he's one of those guys.

946
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:00,839
Speaker 2: It's going to improve as it goes along. You cut

947
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 2: out those dips in his production, the tip pack horse,

948
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 2: the tip pass. Who knew it was going to go

949
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 2: into the thing. It was still a drop pass, but

950
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 2: turning into a turning into a pick six was a

951
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 2: bad break. But then he has the nice catch across

952
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:16,399
Speaker 2: the middle in between the hashes, and he's a big,

953
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 2: big target's.

954
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 1: Big, and I got legs and arms that go on forever.

955
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 2: And I also think he can be one of those

956
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:25,760
Speaker 2: guys that gives you a little something on kick coverage

957
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 2: and stuff like that too. So I'm I think he's

958
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 2: really got a chance to hang around the building at least,

959
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 2: if not on the fifty three man roster, for sure

960
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 2: on the practice squad. And he's he's a good enough

961
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 2: player to be in the NFL. And that's why you

962
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 2: kind of hate to see anything happen that he wouldn't

963
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 2: be a Buffalo Bill instead of someplace.

964
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 1: Else undrafted rookie out of San Diego State. So even

965
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 1: if he can't make the fifty three and it is

966
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 1: practice squad, as you suggested, I would submit that he

967
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 1: would be a very good candidate for the practice squad

968
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 1: because I think he's demonstrated enough on the field to

969
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 1: show that with the right development, he could be a

970
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 1: fifty three man player as soon as next year with

971
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:06,479
Speaker 1: the right coaching and development. And we all know about

972
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 1: the player development abilities of this coaching staff.

973
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 2: We haven't seen enough of him to know whether he's

974
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 2: explosive or not, or whether he's got hygensp. Whether he

975
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 2: runs a four to three forty or four to ten

976
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 2: forty four eight forty, I don't know. I couldn't tell you,

977
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:21,839
Speaker 2: but he seems to get separation. He catches the ball

978
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 2: extremely well, and he's got a big catch radius, so

979
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,800
Speaker 2: you know he's got a lot of He's intriguing because

980
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,359
Speaker 2: he has shown up in training camp and played well

981
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:32,360
Speaker 2: in the game last week.

982
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 1: There's an interesting backstory to Shavers, at least from what

983
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 1: I'm reading here online. First you asked about speed. He

984
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:47,840
Speaker 1: has four to three eight speed twenty yard shuttle steve

985
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 1: four to oh nine thirty six inch vertical. He also

986
00:53:55,640 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 1: originally committed to Alabama. Forced our recruit in high school

987
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 1: out of Texas and committed to Alabama. So something obviously

988
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 1: happened there, and you know, washed out of Alabama, wound

989
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 1: up at San Diego State. So just something to you know,

990
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 1: stick in the file there for one Tyrell Shavers. There

991
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:24,799
Speaker 1: is athletic ability there for sure. Speaking of receivers, we

992
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 1: want to turn to the receiver that addressed the media

993
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 1: after practice today at the post practice podium was one

994
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:35,280
Speaker 1: Andy Isabella, who has opened eyes in his brief time

995
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 1: here in a Bill's uniform as a mid training camp signee.

996
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:43,799
Speaker 1: Here is the diminutive receiver who has opened eyes thus

997
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 1: far this summer.

998
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 10: Kind of like a wake up call come coming close

999
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:49,400
Speaker 10: to the regular season.

1000
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 11: Yeah, it feels good, I mean, definitely. The better the

1001
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 11: competition I mean, and we're playing it like a game,

1002
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 11: so they'll get me ready for the game. And you know,

1003
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 11: you want to play hard, and those guys are playing hard.

1004
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:03,240
Speaker 11: They're just making me better.

1005
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 1: Where are you?

1006
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 12: Uh?

1007
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 11: You know, I'm learning every day, so I'm picking it up.

1008
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 11: I'm picking it out really fast. I'm getting a lot

1009
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 11: faster than I think even they thought I would pick

1010
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 11: it up, putting in a lot of hours studying, and

1011
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 11: I think I have it all down by the time

1012
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 11: camp's done.

1013
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:23,399
Speaker 1: The other games all we ever sees.

1014
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:27,359
Speaker 11: You get the playbook, you have to Yeah, I mean

1015
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 11: it's a big playbook. And if I want a chance

1016
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 11: to get on the field, I have to know the players.

1017
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 11: I mean, if you don't know the plays, you're not

1018
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 11: gonna be in the game. You're not gonna play.

1019
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 8: You've been on the field quite a bit.

1020
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 1: What do you like about this offense?

1021
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 11: Uh, it's fast paced, It's it's a lot of quick, short,

1022
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 11: short passes, but a lot of shots as well. It's

1023
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:50,839
Speaker 11: good mix of everything, and it's it's one of the

1024
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 11: I think it's the best playbook i've I've I've been

1025
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:54,920
Speaker 11: a part of so far in the NFL.

1026
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 10: How do you feel you fit into the offense?

1027
00:55:58,080 --> 00:55:58,879
Speaker 2: I think I feeling great.

1028
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 11: I mean, they use those quick, quick routes, and that's

1029
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 11: what I That's what I do. So I just keep

1030
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:05,720
Speaker 11: working and see what happens.

1031
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 1: How do you keep your head up knowing that you

1032
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:09,439
Speaker 1: haven't found your niche shit?

1033
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 2: So to say?

1034
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 8: In the NFL?

1035
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 11: Uh, just just great faith. You know that there's a

1036
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 11: there's a higher purpose. I'm not really worried about what happens,

1037
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 11: you know. I just come out here and play hard

1038
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 11: every day.

1039
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:23,399
Speaker 1: Cool Beasley, Do you know him at all?

1040
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 3: Have you watch any of.

1041
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 13: His plays with the Bills, just because you know you're

1042
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 13: same Chac.

1043
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 11: Yeah, I'm a big fan of his work and what

1044
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 11: he's done in this league. I know he's still still

1045
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 11: playing somewhere now, and I definitely watched his tape a

1046
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 11: lot when I was in Arizona and studied him.

1047
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:41,799
Speaker 3: So it's cool to be here now.

1048
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 12: I told him yesterday that he could see just the

1049
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 12: trust between you and all the different quarterbacks. How do

1050
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 12: you feel you've built that so quick?

1051
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 6: Faith?

1052
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 3: You know?

1053
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 1: You just you.

1054
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:53,280
Speaker 11: You come in here and you set a standard for yourself,

1055
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 11: and I set a high standard for myself and I

1056
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 11: kind of try to carry that standard. With me every day,

1057
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 11: whether it's staying after and studying more the plays. When

1058
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 11: I go out there, I know what I'm doing. So

1059
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 11: they said they build that trustle and I bring a

1060
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 11: lot of energy and play hard. And I think when

1061
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 11: you do that, the ball finds energy, and the ball

1062
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 11: finds people that work hard and do the right thing.

1063
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 11: So that's why I'm going to continue to do.

1064
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 12: Are there any ways you've changed how you mentioned how

1065
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 12: we're studying there is right now learning all the plays.

1066
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 12: Have you changed your style of like going over stuff

1067
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 12: since you entered the league or added stuff to help

1068
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 12: kind of pick.

1069
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 2: It up faster.

1070
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely.

1071
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 11: I definitely had a coach in Baltimore when I got

1072
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 11: there halfway through the season last year, and he told

1073
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 11: me to go in your room, put a put a

1074
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 11: cone or something in the middle and make that the center,

1075
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 11: and then go walk through it, walk through it all.

1076
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 11: And so that's why I do. I just walk through

1077
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 11: all the plays on my own. I'll say it out

1078
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 11: loud and walk through it until it sticks.

1079
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 12: Bring the cone or did the bills give you a coun.

1080
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 11: No, I just use a bad or something.

1081
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 3: But you get deployed like a killed or something, all.

1082
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 1: Right, So Andy Isabella coming up with a unique way

1083
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 1: to learn the plays in Buffalo's voluminous playbook. He got

1084
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 1: here late, had to go through serious cram sessions to

1085
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 1: master that playbook. And he puts a bag in the

1086
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 1: middle of the room that's the center, and he lines

1087
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 1: up where he's supposed to be on the play to

1088
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 1: physically rep it in a walk through type setting in

1089
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 1: his own hotel room. That's how That's how he's and

1090
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:18,440
Speaker 1: you heard Josh say it the other day when he

1091
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 1: spoke to the media on Tuesday. Every time he sees

1092
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 1: Isabelle in the locker room, he's got his book open,

1093
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 1: he's looking at it. He's got a very short window

1094
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 1: of time to learn a very large playbook. I mean,

1095
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 1: he is playing ketchup every single day.

1096
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's done well so far, though. I think it's

1097
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 2: safe to say he's exceeded expectations. And that's as long

1098
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 2: as you do that, you're they're never gonna let you

1099
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 2: walk out the door.

1100
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 1: Give himself a chance.

1101
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 2: You're never If you see always exceed expectations, you never

1102
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 2: you're never gonna be asked to leave. That's where he's

1103
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 2: at right now. He's and he's done a nice job

1104
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 2: of it, you know. You know, he's steadily gained more

1105
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 2: and more interest from people who watch practice like us,

1106
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:07,919
Speaker 2: me and you, people in the media. Everybody's noticing him,

1107
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 2: and that's, you know, that's basically what you gotta do,

1108
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 2: because if we're noticing, if we're noticing him, the coaches

1109
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 2: have to deal with him. So they're the ones that

1110
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 2: have to make the decisions about him, and they're the

1111
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 2: ones that are saying, you know, you can't you start

1112
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 2: to It's the old adage, you don't you know, you

1113
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 2: don't make the team. Sometimes what you do is you

1114
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 2: never give him a reason to cut you, you know

1115
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 2: what I mean? And I think he's there now. They

1116
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 2: can't have no reason to think this guy needs to

1117
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 2: go anywhere else, and it's up to him to continue

1118
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 2: that and then all of a sudden, it's like, this

1119
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 2: guy's got to be on our fifty three.

1120
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 1: Coach McDermott was asked about Andy Isabella specifically at his

1121
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 1: press conference this morning, and he said the following about him.

1122
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 1: The speed element stands out the most. He's been impressive

1123
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 1: to this point, and he'll get some opportunities this weekend,

1124
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 1: so yeah. I mean he's he's made people notice him.

1125
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 1: There's no question about it, both among the media and

1126
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:13,439
Speaker 1: the coaching staff, and obviously some fans as well. Let's

1127
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 1: go to the phones real quick to Mark in Orchard Park, Mark,

1128
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 1: what do you got for us? Here? On one Bill's Live.

1129
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 9: Hey, can you hear me?

1130
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 1: Ye?

1131
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 2: Go ahead?

1132
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 9: Oh you know I call yous every month. So great

1133
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 9: to hear you know that you're taking over, you know,

1134
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 9: to play calling.

1135
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 7: Uh.

1136
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 9: But Steve Tasker the same thing I always say. I

1137
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 9: got to give you a thumbs up for everything. He

1138
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 9: always said. My real question is is Andy Isabella. I

1139
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 9: went to practice. It was the first one on a Sunday.

1140
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 9: That's when Andy Isabella came in on a Friday. He

1141
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 9: stood out to me. I've been watching football for a

1142
01:00:55,560 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 9: long time. For me to see it was awesome for

1143
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 9: yous to see it. Youth already know what this individual

1144
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 9: can do. You know, I've watched films what he did

1145
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 9: with Saint Louis or the Cardinals, and he can be

1146
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 9: a game breaker. He's gonna be like a Beasley with

1147
01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 9: Jets on his skis. All right, that's all I'm gonna

1148
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 9: leave it at.

1149
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 1: All right, I appreciate the call.

1150
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 2: Mark.

1151
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he's he's quickly built a little bit

1152
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 1: of a fan base out there. Every training camp there's

1153
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 1: usually a media darling, there's also a fan darling. He

1154
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 1: might be both right now.

1155
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:40,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's the flavor of the week, no question. And

1156
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 2: he had you know, he had a thirty eight yard

1157
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 2: catch last weekend and his his shiftiness down inside and

1158
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 2: his ability to accelerate away from people was on display.

1159
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 2: You really do get a sense that he's got something

1160
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 2: to offer a team, and the Bills may be the

1161
01:01:57,040 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 2: team to do it. The question is, say, if he's

1162
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 2: gonna make it, who doesn't. That's that's the that's what

1163
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 2: we're really talking about here. Yeah, we're getting down to

1164
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:10,920
Speaker 2: the plate point where you got fifty three guys out

1165
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:14,600
Speaker 2: of ninety. You gotta cut thirty seven guys from the club.

1166
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 2: Thirty seven. That's a lot. And then you can sign

1167
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:22,480
Speaker 2: it yes all once, and you can you can say, well,

1168
01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:24,720
Speaker 2: practice squad, this, practic squad, that, and we may lose.

1169
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 2: You know, it's it's not as common to lose guys

1170
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 2: as the practice too or off the practice squad as

1171
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:34,920
Speaker 2: you might think. Most of the times. It's because of

1172
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:41,440
Speaker 2: another team after a few weeks needs a guy because

1173
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 2: of injuries. They're they're they're depleted at a position, so

1174
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 2: they'll start plucking guys from practice squads. But it doesn't

1175
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 2: really happen right at the Usually you get all your

1176
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 2: guys back on the practice squad, and that's all well

1177
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:55,720
Speaker 2: and good, and I get it. Hey, we don't have

1178
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 2: to say goodbye to these days. I don't care who's

1179
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:00,480
Speaker 2: on the fifty three. Who's gonna help you on Monday

1180
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 2: night nine to eleven against Aaron Rodgers and the Jets.

1181
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:07,120
Speaker 2: How are you gonna beat those guys? Which guys are

1182
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 2: gonna help you beat them? I get all the all

1183
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:13,280
Speaker 2: the the practice squad and the injury reserve and the

1184
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 2: pupp lists, and who is gonna beat the Jets? That's

1185
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 2: what you gotta know. So I if they're gonna try

1186
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:23,040
Speaker 2: and slip this guy through or get this guy through

1187
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:26,160
Speaker 2: and all that, I don't care. Give me who's who's

1188
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 2: active on nine to eleven against the Jets on Monday

1189
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 2: night football. And if Andy Isabella is one of those guys,

1190
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:37,680
Speaker 2: you know what he's he's a difference maker because of

1191
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:43,760
Speaker 2: his speed. It's it's it's Brownie saw two reps in

1192
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:46,920
Speaker 2: an individual drill, and Brownie's coming over to me, he goes, hey,

1193
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 2: did you see that guy? That's all the guy's different.

1194
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 2: So now we're getting more positive and positive feedback because

1195
01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:58,760
Speaker 2: now it's like, Wow, he really knows the playbook. Wow,

1196
01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 2: he's getting open in the preseas in game. Wow, he

1197
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 2: catches really well, he catch you know, Wow, Josh likes him. Wow,

1198
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 2: you know, Sean likes him. So now we're getting more

1199
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:11,360
Speaker 2: than just hey, he's a fast guy. There's you. Now

1200
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 2: he's turned into a you know, a personality and a

1201
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:18,040
Speaker 2: guy that's like, okay, let's give him something. So that's awesome.

1202
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 2: So who doesn't make it? Because Andy Isabella is going

1203
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 2: to that's the question one to answer. It's a hard answer,

1204
01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:29,440
Speaker 2: the hard question to answer right now because you think

1205
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:32,120
Speaker 2: Deontay Hardy same. And even if those two guys are

1206
01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 2: the same. Guy, you got Isabella returning kickoffs. You got

1207
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:42,560
Speaker 2: Deontay Hardy, who's all pro pump returner. Okay, there's two

1208
01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 2: guys that are helping you there, and you can split

1209
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:46,280
Speaker 2: some time between him and the slider in the on

1210
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:48,800
Speaker 2: the field as an offensive guy. All of a sudden,

1211
01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:50,760
Speaker 2: it's like, wow, Okay, I don't care who doesn't make

1212
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 2: the team. Those you know what I mean? They give

1213
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:59,080
Speaker 2: you something, so uh that's where we're at. I'm look,

1214
01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:03,200
Speaker 2: they found a guy, bless their heart. I don't know what.

1215
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 2: I don't know why. He wasn't making it in Baltimore. Yeah,

1216
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 2: but he didn't and he didn't he didn't stick around

1217
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 2: in Arizona. Okay, he's showing something in Buffalo for whatever reason.

1218
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:20,920
Speaker 1: Let's go back to the phones and to Jessica in

1219
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:21,640
Speaker 1: South Carolina.

1220
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:24,120
Speaker 14: What do you got for us, Jessica, Well, I have

1221
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:26,760
Speaker 14: two questions for you guys. What did you think of

1222
01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 14: Vandermark's play? I watched the preseason game and he looked

1223
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:33,320
Speaker 14: like a tremendously better on the left side than the

1224
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 14: right side, And I think maybe it was a confidence issue,

1225
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 14: and I wanted to get you guys's opinion on that.

1226
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 14: And then, do you guys see Taylor rap playing any

1227
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:48,840
Speaker 14: middle linebacker you know, dial up scheme just for you know,

1228
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:52,040
Speaker 14: man coverage maybe a little bit, because Dotson seemed to

1229
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:55,520
Speaker 14: struggle in man a little bit. He seemed good downhill,

1230
01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 14: but seemed to struggle and coverage a little bit. I'm

1231
01:05:58,000 --> 01:05:59,640
Speaker 14: going to hang up and see what you guys say.

1232
01:05:59,760 --> 01:05:59,920
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1233
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:02,440
Speaker 2: Good. The reason the best thing about vander Mark is

1234
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:04,760
Speaker 2: that you didn't hear about him. I mean, he was

1235
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:09,320
Speaker 2: nobody was getting clean pressure and all that. And I'll

1236
01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:13,439
Speaker 2: say this too, vander Mark. With they with Brandon Shell

1237
01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 2: leaving Vandermark, they need him to play well, so he's

1238
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:20,920
Speaker 2: gonna get it even longer. Look, I would think against Pittsburgh,

1239
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 2: and if he holds up against the Pittsburgh Steelers and

1240
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:27,600
Speaker 2: those jokers over there, that'll go a long way towards

1241
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:30,880
Speaker 2: him being maybe the swing tackle because he, as I

1242
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:35,400
Speaker 2: see it, he's in a kind of a thing with Kessenberry.

1243
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:38,439
Speaker 2: They need a guy that can play right and left.

1244
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:40,080
Speaker 2: And if you've got a guy that can play left

1245
01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:42,840
Speaker 2: and do it better than he can right, he's a

1246
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 2: swing tackle candidate. You're not gonna unseat Dion Dawkins. He's

1247
01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:49,920
Speaker 2: too big and too athletic. But vander Mark could be

1248
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:52,840
Speaker 2: the guy that they hang on to and use him

1249
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:55,880
Speaker 2: in different ways, you know, as a third tackle on goalline,

1250
01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:57,680
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff, and you know, throw him a

1251
01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:01,560
Speaker 2: touchdown pass. I don't care, but yeah, Vandermark's very much

1252
01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:04,760
Speaker 2: more in the mix with Brandon Shell retiring, and the

1253
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:06,600
Speaker 2: fact that he got in the game this last week

1254
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:12,000
Speaker 2: and played significant snaps and was anonymous, is like, we's

1255
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 2: a good thing.

1256
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:15,560
Speaker 1: And he knows the system. He's been here under Kromer

1257
01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:18,040
Speaker 1: last year on the practice squad, so it's not like

1258
01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:22,560
Speaker 1: he's some you know, neophyte to the offense and what

1259
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:25,080
Speaker 1: they want to try to accomplish here. He's been in

1260
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:29,240
Speaker 1: the program, he's developed, he's got prototype length at six

1261
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:32,919
Speaker 1: six three oh seven long arms, So yeah, I mean,

1262
01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:36,040
Speaker 1: I think he is firmly in the mix for the

1263
01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:39,000
Speaker 1: swing tackle role. And you heard coach McDermott address it today.

1264
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:41,320
Speaker 1: Somebody asked him, you know, where do you go now

1265
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:44,240
Speaker 1: with some of your veteran depth at the tackle position

1266
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:46,560
Speaker 1: no longer on this roster with the Brandon Shell retirement.

1267
01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:49,360
Speaker 1: He says, well, yes, we do have David Quessenberry, who

1268
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:51,240
Speaker 1: was our swing tackle last year, but we need some

1269
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:54,400
Speaker 1: young players to step up. That means Tommy Doyle coming

1270
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:57,720
Speaker 1: back successfully from ACL surgery, and that means Ryan van

1271
01:07:57,720 --> 01:08:01,000
Speaker 1: Dervark stepping up to a point where hey, you know what,

1272
01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:03,360
Speaker 1: this guy can be more than a practice squad player.

1273
01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:06,040
Speaker 1: Maybe we can carry him as our fourth tackle.

1274
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 2: And Jessica the other thing you said about Taylor Rapp,

1275
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:11,520
Speaker 2: I would say, yes, there are gonna be some situations

1276
01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:13,040
Speaker 2: where he would make a lot of sense to move

1277
01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:15,120
Speaker 2: in there to one of the linebacker spots, put him

1278
01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:18,439
Speaker 2: and Matt mulonnell on the field at the same time.

1279
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:22,519
Speaker 1: He's thick enough, big nickel kind of thing.

1280
01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:25,240
Speaker 2: As you know, to kind of bear up in a

1281
01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 2: spread run game. Maybe not in a two tight end

1282
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:32,360
Speaker 2: run game, but in a spread four wide run game.

1283
01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:34,960
Speaker 2: He could step in there as a linebacker and carry,

1284
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:37,400
Speaker 2: you know, carry one of the slot receivers and cover

1285
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:39,400
Speaker 2: man up on him if you needed to, or even

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Speaker 2: if they go two backs and three wides, he could

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Speaker 2: come in in that situation as well as a linebacker

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01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:47,320
Speaker 2: type who could step up in the run game, but

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Speaker 2: also carry a tight end or a running back down

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01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:52,120
Speaker 2: the slot down the middle of the field and run

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Speaker 2: with him. He's a physical player. I love what I've

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Speaker 2: seen from him in training camp, and I think he's

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Speaker 2: versatile enough to back up Poyer and hide at eat

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Speaker 2: a spot, but also find a spot in situations for

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Speaker 2: him to get on the field and help them. Because

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Speaker 2: of his athleticism. So yes, I think you're You're right

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Speaker 2: on the money with that.

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Speaker 1: As Steve and I have said many times, Taylor Rap

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Speaker 1: has a proven starter in this league. The only reason

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Speaker 1: he's not starting is because the two guys back there

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Speaker 1: have started together for the better part of the last

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Speaker 1: seven seasons in Jordan Poyer and Micah Hyde. But Taylor

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01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:30,120
Speaker 1: Rap is too good of a player to not have

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01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:33,120
Speaker 1: on the field in some capacity among your starting eleven.

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01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:36,040
Speaker 1: Now that may just be a subpackage role, as Steve

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01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:38,760
Speaker 1: kind of laid out for us, but he's going to

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Speaker 1: be on the field in some way, shape or form,

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01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:44,680
Speaker 1: and so we'll see what that turns out to be

1309
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:47,800
Speaker 1: and how that manifests itself. But you've heard Rap mention it.

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Speaker 1: Whether I'm a sub package player or they need me

1311
01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:52,960
Speaker 1: somewhere else, I'm ready to roll. So I think it'll

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Speaker 1: be very interesting to see how he is utilized week

1313
01:09:56,479 --> 01:09:58,559
Speaker 1: to week because I think it will morph and change

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Speaker 1: as the season goes on.

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing to Taylor Rap is here because the

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01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:06,280
Speaker 2: Bills were precariously close to being without both Poyer and

1317
01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:10,320
Speaker 2: Hide multiple times last season. They were without Hides after

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01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:15,680
Speaker 2: Week two. Poyer was dragging himself around like you know

1319
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 2: he was. He was wounded the entire season, had to

1320
01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:21,479
Speaker 2: drive to Kansas City because his lung got punctured. He

1321
01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:24,800
Speaker 2: had wore that huge elbow brace the entire streams, and

1322
01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:28,160
Speaker 2: I mean the guy, the guy was really banged up big.

1323
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:30,800
Speaker 2: And I think Taylor Rap is here because the team

1324
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:33,559
Speaker 2: knows that Poyer and Hyde aren't getting younger, They're getting

1325
01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:37,000
Speaker 2: way older. So they need a guy that they trust

1326
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:39,559
Speaker 2: to step in and be ready if one of those

1327
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:41,920
Speaker 2: guys needs a break for a week or two, or

1328
01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:43,640
Speaker 2: you know, have Taylor Rap come in and start for

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01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:46,840
Speaker 2: a couple of games. That kind of thing. Plus give

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01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:48,760
Speaker 2: him a role on the team that will make him

1331
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:52,640
Speaker 2: feel like he can contribute in certain situations. So I

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01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:55,680
Speaker 2: think that's what Taylor Rap His signing was. And at

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01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:59,879
Speaker 2: the time, and I can't remember the timing of it,

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01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:04,200
Speaker 2: they signed him before Poyer, before resigning Poorer back.

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Speaker 1: I want to go back and check that.

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01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:10,719
Speaker 2: I can't remember that. But either way, you remember Poyer

1337
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:12,840
Speaker 2: was a gone. He was goner. Man. We didn't think

1338
01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:15,080
Speaker 2: there's any way he was coming back. And I can't

1339
01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:19,240
Speaker 2: remember whether Rap was signed before or after Poyer. I

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01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:20,680
Speaker 2: think it might have been after.

1341
01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:28,200
Speaker 1: Well, Poyer re signed on the fifteenth of March, so

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01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:29,080
Speaker 1: I'll have to check.

1343
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think high. I think Rap was after that.

1344
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:33,839
Speaker 2: But so I think the Bills have a real concern

1345
01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:36,920
Speaker 2: that they got stuck last year, maybe not having either

1346
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:38,640
Speaker 2: Poyer or Hide, and they wanted to make sure they

1347
01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:42,519
Speaker 2: two weeks after so I think they really want to

1348
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:44,920
Speaker 2: make sure they've got some depth of the position. Plus,

1349
01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:47,960
Speaker 2: back then there was no guarantee that Tomorrow could even

1350
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:50,839
Speaker 2: come back and play, so they had some real issues

1351
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:53,960
Speaker 2: in the off season about they couldn't they couldn't see

1352
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:55,320
Speaker 2: the future and how it was going to turn out.

1353
01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:59,360
Speaker 2: Now it's turned out pretty well, but you know then not,

1354
01:11:59,439 --> 01:12:01,760
Speaker 2: So they did no and Taylor Rapp was a really

1355
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:02,360
Speaker 2: good signing.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to the tweets sheet now, brought to you

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Speaker 1: by Corgan Moving Systems, the official equipment moving company of

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01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:10,880
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. Which defensive player needs to show you more?

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Speaker 1: In preseason game number two, Jack says Dodson seems like

1360
01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:18,360
Speaker 1: he's the leader to be the mic linebacker, but I

1361
01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:20,360
Speaker 1: think it's a mistake. He's a fine backup, but I

1362
01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:23,400
Speaker 1: haven't seen anything special this year in past starts. He

1363
01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:27,120
Speaker 1: feels he feels kind of pokey out there.

1364
01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:30,200
Speaker 2: I don't know pokey means slow poke, Oh slow, he's

1365
01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:30,679
Speaker 2: too slow.

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Speaker 1: I'm no fan of the diminutive Bernard, but at least

1367
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:35,519
Speaker 1: he has speed. I want to see Specter and Williams

1368
01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:38,719
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, the lack of clarity at the middle

1369
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:43,000
Speaker 1: linebacker position is clearly giving some Bills fans some angst here.

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01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:49,360
Speaker 2: I agree, I think so I'm I means worried Yet

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01:12:49,439 --> 01:12:52,200
Speaker 2: I said earlier, I think the middle linebacker spot in

1372
01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:55,720
Speaker 2: the NFL is the defensive answer to what's happened to

1373
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:58,200
Speaker 2: the running back position so been devalued a little bit.

1374
01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:02,080
Speaker 2: There's so many fast athletes on the field, those big old,

1375
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:06,360
Speaker 2: huge thumpers in the middle are just outdated. Nobody runs

1376
01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:08,559
Speaker 2: the ball more than they throw it, so you need

1377
01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:11,760
Speaker 2: a guy who can cover more than run stuff. So

1378
01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:17,040
Speaker 2: it's it's turning in. It's kind of in a transition period.

1379
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Speaker 2: I think in this point in history, you get a

1380
01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:22,120
Speaker 2: guy like Matt Mlano out there, who you know, there

1381
01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:24,360
Speaker 2: were times in hit points of history in the NFL

1382
01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:26,200
Speaker 2: where he was too he's way too small to.

1383
01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:28,240
Speaker 1: Play, he'd be playing safety.

1384
01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:30,120
Speaker 2: But now he's a Pro Bowl, he's an All Pro

1385
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:35,559
Speaker 2: so and Tremaine Edmonds was an aberration in this day

1386
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:37,800
Speaker 2: and age of how big he wasn't playing inside. So

1387
01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:43,360
Speaker 2: I'm thinking that position has been a little bit devalued,

1388
01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:45,400
Speaker 2: and I think I don't want to say the Bills

1389
01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:48,200
Speaker 2: are because I don't think they are at the forefront

1390
01:13:48,240 --> 01:13:51,559
Speaker 2: of that movement, but I think their treatment of Tremaine

1391
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:54,719
Speaker 2: Edmonds in his contract is a result of that trend

1392
01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:55,439
Speaker 2: in the NFL.

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01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:59,120
Speaker 1: Carl on the tweet, she says, I would like to

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01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:01,600
Speaker 1: see more from age. I think he was under the

1395
01:14:01,680 --> 01:14:04,120
Speaker 1: radar effective last year with six and a half sacks

1396
01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:06,559
Speaker 1: and limited snaps. But if he's going to be a

1397
01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:09,320
Speaker 1: top four pass rusher in the defense, I'd love to

1398
01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:12,040
Speaker 1: see more when he's running with the ones, and he

1399
01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:14,120
Speaker 1: has gotten a fair amount of that through the course

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01:14:14,160 --> 01:14:16,080
Speaker 1: of the training camp. You can't say he's been devoid

1401
01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:19,240
Speaker 1: of opportunities in training camp and even the preseason game

1402
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:22,200
Speaker 1: last week. And I would expect that to continue because

1403
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:25,920
Speaker 1: as clear as it might be, Steve defensive end one

1404
01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:28,080
Speaker 1: to two and three when von Miller is healthy, which

1405
01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:32,760
Speaker 1: is namely Miller, Floyd and Rousseau.

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01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:33,200
Speaker 2: Who's four and five.

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01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:37,160
Speaker 1: I think it's I think the jury's still out on

1408
01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:41,759
Speaker 1: that because in that pool you've got Epinessa Basham, Shaq Lawson,

1409
01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:48,000
Speaker 1: Cameron Klein, Kingsley Jonathan, and Shane Ray. So who would

1410
01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:49,960
Speaker 1: I say is out in front right now? I would

1411
01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:53,719
Speaker 1: say it's probably Epinessa, Bashim and Lawson, the three guys

1412
01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:57,280
Speaker 1: that were on the roster last year, because in my mind, Ray,

1413
01:14:57,680 --> 01:15:01,760
Speaker 1: Jonathan and Kleine have not flashed enough to convince me

1414
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:07,240
Speaker 1: that they're gonna unseat those guys. Bashim has probably flashed

1415
01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:10,040
Speaker 1: the most through one preseason game. We'll see if other

1416
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:12,840
Speaker 1: guys put themselves in the mix even more in this

1417
01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:14,679
Speaker 1: second preseason game against the Steelers.

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01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:20,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, h A, Boogie and Shack are the three

1419
01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:24,280
Speaker 2: guys that kind of have the longest history with the

1420
01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:30,880
Speaker 2: team and the and the probably the most cachet set aside.

1421
01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:32,759
Speaker 2: But you know which one would you choose?

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01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:32,920
Speaker 13: You know?

1423
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:35,000
Speaker 2: I mean it's it's it's tough.

1424
01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:38,920
Speaker 1: Because you can't. I mean, I think this team is

1425
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:42,679
Speaker 1: on a is on an expressway to carrying ten ten

1426
01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:44,040
Speaker 1: defensive linemen.

1427
01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:45,920
Speaker 2: Five edge and five.

1428
01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:49,120
Speaker 1: I would probably make it five and five right now?

1429
01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:52,120
Speaker 1: Can you see your way to eleven. Well, you're really

1430
01:15:52,160 --> 01:15:55,519
Speaker 1: gonna have to make some sacrifices on this roster somewhere else.

1431
01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:57,400
Speaker 2: If you do that, maybe you do it with the

1432
01:15:57,400 --> 01:16:01,280
Speaker 2: linebacker spot. Maybe you take keep what are you gonna keep?

1433
01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:01,599
Speaker 1: Four?

1434
01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:05,120
Speaker 2: That's a little precarious, that's a little light unless you've

1435
01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:07,880
Speaker 2: got two backups that can play either spot, which you

1436
01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:11,879
Speaker 2: may with Dorian Williams and Ajin aj Clin or Bernard

1437
01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:15,200
Speaker 2: if you get because aj Clin can play both, right,

1438
01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:18,120
Speaker 2: aj Clin could play both. Medickevitch. Now you've got a

1439
01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:20,760
Speaker 2: special team's core guy that's out. Dodson is already out

1440
01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:23,599
Speaker 2: of that mix. So you're gonna have to really bolster

1441
01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:27,720
Speaker 2: your special team's core group with from someplace, probably the

1442
01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:30,520
Speaker 2: secondary and the big wide receivers.

1443
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:34,439
Speaker 1: Break time for us here. When we come back, we're

1444
01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:38,599
Speaker 1: gonna hear from one Latavious Murray find out how his

1445
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:41,599
Speaker 1: first training camp in preseason with the Bills is going.

1446
01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:44,240
Speaker 1: It's another guy that's opened some eyes. We'll catch up

1447
01:16:44,240 --> 01:16:46,160
Speaker 1: with him next here on One Bill's Live, presented by

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Speaker 1: co Lot of Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right,

1449
01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:56,960
Speaker 1: welcome back to One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker

1450
01:16:57,000 --> 01:17:00,679
Speaker 1: with you. Addressing the media after practice today was the

1451
01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:03,240
Speaker 1: wily veteran that we've actually had it here in studio

1452
01:17:03,320 --> 01:17:07,240
Speaker 1: as well, Latavius Murray, who's got a lot of spring

1453
01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:09,360
Speaker 1: in his step for a thirty three year old running back.

1454
01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:14,559
Speaker 1: He addressed the media after practice here is Latavious because

1455
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:18,080
Speaker 1: of your age out here and you know, maybe did

1456
01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:19,720
Speaker 1: you have some sort of chip on your shoulder? You

1457
01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:21,880
Speaker 1: are the oldest running back in the league now that

1458
01:17:22,040 --> 01:17:23,160
Speaker 1: Mark basically retired.

1459
01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:23,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do.

1460
01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:28,920
Speaker 13: I think obviously you kind of get written off the

1461
01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:32,320
Speaker 13: older you get, especially at the running back position. And

1462
01:17:32,360 --> 01:17:36,519
Speaker 13: so I think for me, yeah, I got a lot

1463
01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:40,080
Speaker 13: to prove the year in and year out, you know,

1464
01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:43,479
Speaker 13: every day I'm out here of just you know, proving

1465
01:17:43,479 --> 01:17:47,519
Speaker 13: that statistic wrong. And so but a lot of us talk,

1466
01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:50,240
Speaker 13: some of the older guys on this team, and I

1467
01:17:50,360 --> 01:17:53,719
Speaker 13: truly believe it's it's not about like the age itself.

1468
01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:54,720
Speaker 3: I just think.

1469
01:17:55,960 --> 01:18:00,400
Speaker 13: It's hard to keep that hunger as you get older

1470
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:03,200
Speaker 13: in this league and as you get more comfortable, you know,

1471
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Speaker 13: you just you.

1472
01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:05,839
Speaker 3: Lose you lose that edge.

1473
01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:11,200
Speaker 13: And uh so, yeah, I think I just I've remained

1474
01:18:11,200 --> 01:18:16,559
Speaker 13: and kept that hunger, maybe more so now than ever. Uh,

1475
01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:18,760
Speaker 13: just to be able to show that I can still

1476
01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:21,200
Speaker 13: play at a high level and still compete at a

1477
01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:23,880
Speaker 13: high level. And this is really just all the things

1478
01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:26,639
Speaker 13: you do outside of you know, outside of the game,

1479
01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:27,559
Speaker 13: on and off the field.

1480
01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:29,120
Speaker 3: It's what keeps you up there.

1481
01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:33,200
Speaker 1: Being not this team, in this organization with what they've built.

1482
01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:36,200
Speaker 1: Feed into that, like saying, okay, this is a little

1483
01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:39,040
Speaker 1: bit even more, I have a higher expectation myself.

1484
01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:43,280
Speaker 13: Yeah, one hundred. Like you know, like I said it

1485
01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:46,840
Speaker 13: when I first came in. You know, I've always wanted

1486
01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:49,400
Speaker 13: to play for a team that's competing for a championship,

1487
01:18:49,439 --> 01:18:52,160
Speaker 13: and you know, a team that obviously has great players,

1488
01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:55,080
Speaker 13: great organization, and the year in and year out is

1489
01:18:55,400 --> 01:18:58,320
Speaker 13: competitive and have a chance to go out there and

1490
01:18:58,360 --> 01:19:02,160
Speaker 13: win championships. And so when you're on a team like that, yeah,

1491
01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:05,080
Speaker 13: you don't think that you're not around guys, you know,

1492
01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:07,800
Speaker 13: just collecting a paycheck and just there. You know, we're

1493
01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:09,439
Speaker 13: we're we got a group of guys, a group of

1494
01:19:09,439 --> 01:19:13,720
Speaker 13: great players, a great locker room, competitive team. I mean,

1495
01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:17,519
Speaker 13: I believe there's something going on every practice just how

1496
01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:20,000
Speaker 13: competitive we are. But that's that's the environment you want

1497
01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:22,559
Speaker 13: to be around. And so yeah, being here that that

1498
01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:25,639
Speaker 13: helps a lot that you know, we're all working towards something,

1499
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:30,080
Speaker 13: competing towards something. So it helps that I'm just not

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01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:33,120
Speaker 13: you know, on a team that's that's trying to make

1501
01:19:33,160 --> 01:19:35,880
Speaker 13: it there. This is a team that's established that culture

1502
01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:39,000
Speaker 13: already in that identity.

1503
01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:40,959
Speaker 10: So how do you psically?

1504
01:19:41,640 --> 01:19:43,360
Speaker 1: You know, this summer, you haven't looked.

1505
01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:48,760
Speaker 13: Like I feel really good and uh, you know, it's

1506
01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:50,720
Speaker 13: a credit to and I think, as he said, just

1507
01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:55,799
Speaker 13: the culture here. And I think everything they do from uh,

1508
01:19:56,040 --> 01:19:58,599
Speaker 13: you know, the off season. I spent time here training, uh,

1509
01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:02,080
Speaker 13: with the with the coaches, strength coaches, the training staff,

1510
01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:04,439
Speaker 13: the medical staff is you know. I just think it's

1511
01:20:04,439 --> 01:20:06,720
Speaker 13: a it's a culture that you can strive in, you

1512
01:20:06,760 --> 01:20:09,920
Speaker 13: can be your best and uh and I think it's

1513
01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:11,559
Speaker 13: helped me a lot. So I give them a lot

1514
01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:15,759
Speaker 13: of credit this organization, especially at this stage in my career,

1515
01:20:16,040 --> 01:20:18,320
Speaker 13: to be able to feel this this healthy, this good,

1516
01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:21,920
Speaker 13: you know, that's a that's you know again, I give

1517
01:20:21,960 --> 01:20:22,920
Speaker 13: them a lot of credit for that.

1518
01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:24,639
Speaker 1: Came in.

1519
01:20:26,120 --> 01:20:29,599
Speaker 10: This team and you probably had your boss saw them

1520
01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:31,280
Speaker 10: play and do some guys.

1521
01:20:31,560 --> 01:20:33,559
Speaker 2: But now that you've got to spend so much time off.

1522
01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:36,479
Speaker 10: Especially training camp, like being in the dorms together.

1523
01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:39,400
Speaker 2: What's changed for you? What surplies you about just the

1524
01:20:39,439 --> 01:20:40,800
Speaker 2: group of dynamical.

1525
01:20:40,479 --> 01:20:41,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think.

1526
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:47,000
Speaker 13: I think that this is a it's it's like truly

1527
01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:51,639
Speaker 13: a family here in a sense. And I haven't felt

1528
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:54,559
Speaker 13: that way about like me coming into a situation and

1529
01:20:54,600 --> 01:20:59,760
Speaker 13: seeing how the guys interact more so than any other

1530
01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:04,439
Speaker 13: team I've been across or played for. Like I remember

1531
01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:07,120
Speaker 13: training camp the first day, just walking in the lock

1532
01:21:07,280 --> 01:21:08,720
Speaker 13: you know, the locker room, and it was our first

1533
01:21:08,720 --> 01:21:11,880
Speaker 13: team meeting, but just seeing everybody greet each other in

1534
01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:13,840
Speaker 13: a way of like, you know, a good to see you,

1535
01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:17,040
Speaker 13: how you been, how's the offseason? I have never experienced

1536
01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:19,599
Speaker 13: that in any of the other teams, any other training camp.

1537
01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:22,559
Speaker 13: Just that interaction when we first got back together. So

1538
01:21:22,680 --> 01:21:26,280
Speaker 13: I think that that stood out to me of how

1539
01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:28,960
Speaker 13: close knit the team was, the locker room was, and

1540
01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:31,400
Speaker 13: it's not just the offense defense kind of thing. It's

1541
01:21:31,439 --> 01:21:34,559
Speaker 13: it's a team thing and so really respected that. I

1542
01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:36,640
Speaker 13: really appreciated that.

1543
01:21:36,280 --> 01:21:39,160
Speaker 1: Really like player driven, Like do you feel like that

1544
01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:41,599
Speaker 1: it's in the locker room or partly coaches too.

1545
01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:45,200
Speaker 13: I think I definitely think it's player driven. I think

1546
01:21:45,280 --> 01:21:47,960
Speaker 13: coach helps, but I think it has to be player driven.

1547
01:21:48,160 --> 01:21:50,559
Speaker 13: You know, I don't think coach can can can force

1548
01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:53,840
Speaker 13: that connection. I think I think the decisions he's made

1549
01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:57,080
Speaker 13: to allow us to get closer and grow closer, right,

1550
01:21:57,080 --> 01:21:59,120
Speaker 13: it is on him. But in the end, it's it's

1551
01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:00,519
Speaker 13: up to us to come to get other and and

1552
01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:04,200
Speaker 13: and grow that bond and so so yeah, maybe a

1553
01:22:04,240 --> 01:22:06,160
Speaker 13: little bit of both, but it's definitely, you know, it's

1554
01:22:06,240 --> 01:22:08,559
Speaker 13: up to us to to to make that bond.

1555
01:22:08,600 --> 01:22:09,800
Speaker 3: And I think that they do.

1556
01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:11,960
Speaker 2: And we do from James.

1557
01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:15,679
Speaker 3: James, he's a special player. Like he's he's still young.

1558
01:22:15,720 --> 01:22:17,280
Speaker 13: I think he still has a lot of growth, but

1559
01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:22,840
Speaker 13: you know, obviously he's he's a special talent, explosive, physical,

1560
01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:27,479
Speaker 13: He's shown this camp, He's he's shown I think he's

1561
01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:31,439
Speaker 13: shown all the attributes of a running back, every down back,

1562
01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:33,880
Speaker 13: and uh so I'm impressed with that and impressed with

1563
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:37,000
Speaker 13: his knowledge of the game. This offense is not the

1564
01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:41,160
Speaker 13: easiest offense to learn, and uh his comfort level in it,

1565
01:22:41,680 --> 01:22:44,960
Speaker 13: you know, the the hurry up that we do. I

1566
01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:48,040
Speaker 13: was impressed with that. So I think sky's a limit

1567
01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:50,559
Speaker 13: for him. I think, uh, you know, he's gonna have

1568
01:22:50,560 --> 01:22:52,920
Speaker 13: a really good year and I think he'll help, he'll

1569
01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:55,640
Speaker 13: be a really good back in this league.

1570
01:22:56,640 --> 01:22:59,000
Speaker 2: Bring over every other running back that you stand.

1571
01:22:58,880 --> 01:22:59,960
Speaker 1: Next to in the in the room.

1572
01:23:00,200 --> 01:23:01,479
Speaker 3: Yeah at this point, now I am.

1573
01:23:01,720 --> 01:23:06,320
Speaker 13: I mean, yeah, I haven't been next to anybody, especially

1574
01:23:06,360 --> 01:23:09,519
Speaker 13: in the same locker, you know, in the running back room,

1575
01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:13,559
Speaker 13: as tall as me. So yeah, I don't know how

1576
01:23:13,600 --> 01:23:15,800
Speaker 13: I would feel. I guess, I guess maybe then I

1577
01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:16,800
Speaker 13: feel threatened.

1578
01:23:16,439 --> 01:23:19,439
Speaker 3: There, right, I think you wouldn't want to tackle you,

1579
01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:23,160
Speaker 3: Sean McDermott. Yeah, I would hope not.

1580
01:23:25,120 --> 01:23:27,720
Speaker 1: So, you know, like you have to you have to

1581
01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:30,559
Speaker 1: run maybe a little different like pad level running back,

1582
01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:33,280
Speaker 1: Like you're not really supposed to be high when you run, right,

1583
01:23:33,479 --> 01:23:34,240
Speaker 1: what's that.

1584
01:23:34,320 --> 01:23:36,120
Speaker 2: Like for you having to be like that?

1585
01:23:36,200 --> 01:23:37,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I kind of mess with.

1586
01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:43,680
Speaker 13: I've heard all my life like that I run too

1587
01:23:43,720 --> 01:23:47,080
Speaker 13: high and I'm and in my response is okay, try

1588
01:23:47,160 --> 01:23:50,120
Speaker 13: being six three and play running back in the NFL,

1589
01:23:50,160 --> 01:23:53,040
Speaker 13: and you tell me how you do. But for me,

1590
01:23:53,120 --> 01:23:55,280
Speaker 13: it's like this this, that's this just the body I

1591
01:23:55,320 --> 01:24:01,880
Speaker 13: got And so sometimes I'm able to lower my center

1592
01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:04,280
Speaker 13: of gravity and and run, but I gotta I have

1593
01:24:04,360 --> 01:24:09,120
Speaker 13: to balance bending over and running lower. You understood, when

1594
01:24:09,160 --> 01:24:12,360
Speaker 13: you lose that then obviously you you lose that power

1595
01:24:12,439 --> 01:24:15,280
Speaker 13: if you're bending over as opposed to trying to get

1596
01:24:15,360 --> 01:24:18,720
Speaker 13: low and uh and still be explosive and still you know,

1597
01:24:18,800 --> 01:24:22,960
Speaker 13: be be strong and physical. So you know, it's just

1598
01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:26,240
Speaker 13: something that I've tried to obviously continue to work on.

1599
01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:30,200
Speaker 13: But I think I've found, you know, I've found that

1600
01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:33,360
Speaker 13: that sweet spot of just really falling forward, really just

1601
01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:37,799
Speaker 13: being one cutting downhill, not dancing.

1602
01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:38,479
Speaker 2: Uh.

1603
01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:41,760
Speaker 13: That's you know, I've just been you know, been doing

1604
01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:43,880
Speaker 13: the things that I know that that that I'm good

1605
01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:47,559
Speaker 13: at and the know the things that I've had success with,

1606
01:24:47,840 --> 01:24:49,280
Speaker 13: and I'll continue.

1607
01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:54,360
Speaker 3: To do that all the time. That No, he's more

1608
01:24:54,439 --> 01:24:56,040
Speaker 3: upright than me, even I would say.

1609
01:24:57,640 --> 01:24:59,320
Speaker 1: Watching how he ran with his knees.

1610
01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:01,880
Speaker 13: He he's definitely more upright. When he had a lot

1611
01:25:01,880 --> 01:25:05,240
Speaker 13: of speed too, I would say ed did so. But

1612
01:25:05,360 --> 01:25:07,720
Speaker 13: definitely watch them all the guys that compared to uh,

1613
01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:15,720
Speaker 13: Eric Dickerson, uh, Brennan Jacobs, ap, you know, you know,

1614
01:25:15,800 --> 01:25:20,719
Speaker 13: all different, but but yeah, some big, taller guys. Obviously

1615
01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:25,479
Speaker 13: Derek is a anomaly. So you know, we just uh,

1616
01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:27,679
Speaker 13: you know, I respect what each of them do differently,

1617
01:25:27,720 --> 01:25:30,280
Speaker 13: and and I definitely learned from you know, those bigger

1618
01:25:30,320 --> 01:25:30,920
Speaker 13: backs for sure.

1619
01:25:31,280 --> 01:25:34,879
Speaker 10: The fact that spounced around the league, sometimes from multiple

1620
01:25:34,920 --> 01:25:37,479
Speaker 10: teams in the same season. What's allowed you to thrive

1621
01:25:38,320 --> 01:25:42,479
Speaker 10: in that environment and accepting new environments sometimes, like I said,

1622
01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:43,880
Speaker 10: throughout the course of the same season.

1623
01:25:44,040 --> 01:25:49,200
Speaker 13: Yeah, I just think just uh, just embracing the situation

1624
01:25:49,439 --> 01:25:57,599
Speaker 13: and and you know, being coachable and and and putting

1625
01:25:57,600 --> 01:26:01,839
Speaker 13: football first. Like you I'm I go into a situation,

1626
01:26:01,960 --> 01:26:03,400
Speaker 13: it's it's about the game of football.

1627
01:26:03,400 --> 01:26:04,160
Speaker 3: It's about winning.

1628
01:26:04,240 --> 01:26:08,000
Speaker 13: It's about how I can be the best player I

1629
01:26:08,040 --> 01:26:10,559
Speaker 13: can be, be a the best version of myself in

1630
01:26:10,560 --> 01:26:14,200
Speaker 13: that offense, like on that team. So I think that's

1631
01:26:14,200 --> 01:26:16,719
Speaker 13: what it is. Just it is just embracing that situation,

1632
01:26:16,880 --> 01:26:20,320
Speaker 13: keep football first, and letting the rest, you know, the

1633
01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:23,639
Speaker 13: rest follow. I know every offense is different and whatnot.

1634
01:26:23,680 --> 01:26:26,240
Speaker 13: But I also take on the challenge of that too.

1635
01:26:26,360 --> 01:26:29,080
Speaker 13: I take on the challenge of you know, Okay, I'm

1636
01:26:29,080 --> 01:26:32,679
Speaker 13: on a new team, and yeah, he had success this place,

1637
01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:35,479
Speaker 13: but I don't think he can replicate that. Like, I

1638
01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:38,679
Speaker 13: take that out as a challenge. So, you know, any

1639
01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:41,880
Speaker 13: any door I step foot in. You know, my plan

1640
01:26:41,960 --> 01:26:45,240
Speaker 13: is to leave my mark, make an impact on that offense,

1641
01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:47,200
Speaker 13: on that team.

1642
01:26:47,439 --> 01:26:52,519
Speaker 3: You know, wherever I go, whatever age I'm at, all right.

1643
01:26:52,600 --> 01:26:55,799
Speaker 1: That's six foot three, two hundred and twenty three pound

1644
01:26:56,040 --> 01:27:01,240
Speaker 1: Latavious Murray, addressing the media after practice today, has certainly

1645
01:27:01,240 --> 01:27:03,960
Speaker 1: had a strong training camp. We'll see where it takes

1646
01:27:04,040 --> 01:27:07,160
Speaker 1: him through the rest of the preseason. We will take

1647
01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:08,840
Speaker 1: a break here, but Steve and I come back with

1648
01:27:08,880 --> 01:27:10,880
Speaker 1: some final thoughts on the tweets sheet where you have

1649
01:27:10,920 --> 01:27:14,120
Speaker 1: been telling us what defensive player on this Bill's roster

1650
01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:16,920
Speaker 1: you like to see more from in preseason game number two.

1651
01:27:17,160 --> 01:27:19,200
Speaker 1: We'll get those thoughts out next here on one Bill's

1652
01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:28,800
Speaker 1: Live Stay tune. We should not see that there is

1653
01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:35,120
Speaker 1: a anniversary today. Today mark's the fiftieth anniversary of the first

1654
01:27:35,200 --> 01:27:40,400
Speaker 1: game professional football game ever played in what is now

1655
01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:45,360
Speaker 1: high Mark Stadium. August seventeenth, nineteen seventy three. The Buffalo

1656
01:27:45,400 --> 01:27:51,160
Speaker 1: Bills host the Washington Redskins in a preseason game. And

1657
01:27:51,200 --> 01:27:51,880
Speaker 1: there it is.

1658
01:27:52,680 --> 01:27:56,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, fifty years ago, now fifty years later, there isn't

1659
01:27:56,880 --> 01:28:01,360
Speaker 2: a spot on that field that doesn't have something special

1660
01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:04,120
Speaker 2: in some memory attached to it. Uh, after all these

1661
01:28:04,160 --> 01:28:07,280
Speaker 2: decades the place went up this what it was so

1662
01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:10,120
Speaker 2: many years. It was rich Stadium, then it was Ralph

1663
01:28:10,160 --> 01:28:15,960
Speaker 2: Wilson Stadium, New Arafield, now high Mark. It has been

1664
01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:19,240
Speaker 2: the home to this club and a fixture in western

1665
01:28:19,320 --> 01:28:22,480
Speaker 2: New York and the site of a lot of heritage

1666
01:28:22,479 --> 01:28:27,760
Speaker 2: for families and and certainly Bill's mafia. So congratulations the

1667
01:28:27,800 --> 01:28:31,479
Speaker 2: old girl. She's she's gonna get retired. But uh, yeah,

1668
01:28:31,920 --> 01:28:34,519
Speaker 2: like I said, there's a lot of special moments that

1669
01:28:34,600 --> 01:28:37,040
Speaker 2: happened in that in that stadium. I was very proud

1670
01:28:37,080 --> 01:28:40,160
Speaker 2: to be a part of them. And and uh, it'll

1671
01:28:40,200 --> 01:28:43,720
Speaker 2: be it'll be a little bit nostalgic when when when

1672
01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:44,400
Speaker 2: she goes away.

1673
01:28:45,360 --> 01:28:47,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think there's any question about that. It's

1674
01:28:47,800 --> 01:28:51,400
Speaker 1: amazing because you know these days, stadiums don't last nearly

1675
01:28:51,479 --> 01:28:55,720
Speaker 1: that long. They get to thirty. Yeah, they're ancient with

1676
01:28:55,760 --> 01:28:58,479
Speaker 1: all the advances that they try to come up with

1677
01:28:58,920 --> 01:29:01,920
Speaker 1: to uh, you know, well make stadiums last.

1678
01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:04,000
Speaker 2: I'm going to the Erie County Fair, Brownie. That's all

1679
01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:06,280
Speaker 2: there is. Good for you headed out over there.

1680
01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:12,160
Speaker 1: A couple of quick final tweets from Calico. He says

1681
01:29:12,200 --> 01:29:14,320
Speaker 1: he wants to see more from Elam proving it can

1682
01:29:14,360 --> 01:29:17,000
Speaker 1: take the CB two spot because he has more upper

1683
01:29:17,080 --> 01:29:20,639
Speaker 1: side in his opinion, that'll do it for us. Today,

1684
01:29:20,920 --> 01:29:23,599
Speaker 1: it is Matty glab and Chris Trapasso tomorrow while Steve

1685
01:29:23,640 --> 01:29:28,120
Speaker 1: and I travel at Pittsburgh. We'll see you on Saturday.