1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,200 Speaker 1: Why do I eat avocados when I know I'm allergic 2 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: to them? 3 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 2: Guys? 4 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: Why do I do this? Yeah? 5 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, you are. 6 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:11,559 Speaker 1: It's a good actually like slightly like just itchy throat, Yeah, 7 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: itchy throat? M is he my real dad? I just 8 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: took opportunity test and found something even worse. What's worse 9 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: than finding out your dad isn't your dad? Finding out 10 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: that your dad is your stepp brother step bro dad father. Yeah, 11 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: just when like the family tree just becomes like a 12 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: family bramble, just freaking all the stuff. Family branched into 13 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: a family circle. 14 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? 15 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 1: God, oh God? 16 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 2: Where ship? I hope not? 17 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: Is that producer Riley? Is that? Is that where we're going? 18 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: Is that where you where you're taking us today? 19 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 3: I'm not going to tell you anything. You're just going 20 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 3: to figure it out, but might be heading in the 21 00:00:58,960 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 3: right direction. 22 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: All right, Well, only one way to find out, huh, guys, 23 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: let's get into it. I was born in Colorado in 24 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety two. I'm thirty one male. My brother followed 25 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety three. My mother was not ready for 26 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:15,639 Speaker 1: a family and continue to party, do illegal substances, YadA, YadA. 27 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: My dad had just gotten out of the army and 28 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: was raising us on his own. At one point it 29 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:22,919 Speaker 1: got to be too much, so he called his parents 30 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: in Iowa and the next day they drove out, packed 31 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: up his house, and Dad and my brother and I 32 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,479 Speaker 1: moved to Iowa in nineteen ninety four, not seeing our 33 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: mother for a long time. Fast forward and continue a 34 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 1: pretty boring in regular life. My dad remarries in six 35 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 1: or seven. My sister comes in two thousand and nine. 36 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: I was sixteen when she was born, and I love 37 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: her to pieces. Fast forward to twenty eleven. We take 38 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: spring break in Colorado and end up meeting my brother 39 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: and end up seeing my brother and I mother. Dad 40 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: had never told us anything about her our entire lives. Wait, 41 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: is this the mother that was partying? Yeah, this is 42 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: the partying mom. He would say. I don't want to 43 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: talk badly about her because she isn't here to defend herself, 44 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: and I don't have anything good to say. 45 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 2: Damn Yi. 46 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't want to talk badly about anyone, and 47 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: anyone I don't talk badly about is a raging bitch. 48 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna keep my lips shut. You know what 49 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: that means. Whenever someone the raging bitch. I just don't 50 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 1: talk about them, So I'm not gonna talk about your mother. 51 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 2: Wink wink. 52 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: Thanks for the hint, Dad. My mother was honest about 53 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 1: what happened. It was very emotional for all of us. 54 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: At that point. I had her number, but I didn't 55 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 1: stay in touch, and overall I was not interested in 56 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: a relationship. Some more May of twenty twenty three, I 57 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: decide to do a DNA test. M sweet, sweet DNA. 58 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: We know where this is going, guys, everyone's gonna live 59 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: happily ever after. 60 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 2: Wait, so she was partying a lot. 61 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 1: She was at parties with other What do parties have people? 62 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: What is half of the pop of people? Oh no, 63 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: oh no, I really hope this is not what I hope. 64 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: What I'm thinking is not what is happening. But I 65 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:13,959 Speaker 1: see you in the comments if you know what is 66 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: about to go down. My mother is Native American, and 67 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: I've always been curious what percentage Native I am. So 68 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,399 Speaker 1: I send it off on June twenty first, twenty twenty three, 69 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: my birthday. I get the results back and I'm seventeen 70 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: point nine percent Native American. Cool twenty three and me 71 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 1: also connects me to somebody who I share a significant 72 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: amount of DNA with a nineteen year old female, and 73 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: it says that she is my niece. So I'm thirty one. 74 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: My brother's twenty nine, So my brother has a twenty 75 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: nine year old Hmmm, No, it doesn't make sense. My 76 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: fourteen year old sister has a nineteen year old obviously not, 77 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: so I call this person name Jane. It also shows 78 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: me that Jane's DNA results and there is zero Native American, 79 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: meaning that it's on my dad's side. So my brain goes, okay, 80 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: dad has there's another kid out there, and that person 81 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: has a kid, and that is Jane. So we start 82 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: talking and I open up by saying, hey, does one 83 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: of your parents not know their father? Twenty three and 84 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: me is saying that you're my niece, and this just 85 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: doesn't add up with my family dynamic. Jane's account responds 86 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: and says, Hi, this is Jane's mother and actually on 87 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: my side of twenty three and me, it says that 88 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: you and Jane are half siblings. Jane's father is John Doe. 89 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, you're crazy. You're implying that my dad 90 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 1: isn't my dad? 91 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:29,239 Speaker 2: Wait what? 92 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: Then she says something too relevant. He was stationed in 93 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 1: Colorado in the early nineties. During this conversation, I'm at 94 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 1: work on a Friday afternoon and I began having a 95 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: panic attack. I'm freaking out, like, there's no way this 96 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: is real. 97 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 2: Right, oh man? 98 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 1: So I call my mother, not knowing of her phone 99 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 1: numbers even the same after fourteen years. She picks up. 100 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: I ask, Hey, do you happen to know a John Doe? 101 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: She responds, yes, I know a John Doe a very 102 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: long time ago. F this can't be real. Is there 103 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: any chance that John Doe is my father? And I 104 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: swear this pause felt like an hour long. Oh God, 105 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 1: She responds yes. For oh, here we are the truth. 106 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: The truth is being revealed. 107 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 2: I don't like it. 108 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: F I hang up the phone and I call my dad. 109 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: My dad doesn't pick up a cell phone, so I 110 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: assume he won't. He's a trucker and he doesn't answer 111 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: while he's driving smart But then he picks up, Hey, Dad, 112 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 1: are you sitting down? Yep? I did something dumb. Okay, 113 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 1: I did a DNA test to learn how much native 114 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: I have. And I don't think you're my dad. Oh geez, bro, 115 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: I would have just not said I don't think I 116 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: would have. 117 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 2: I don't know if I would have said anything. 118 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: Maybe not like immediately, because this sounds it's like we 119 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: don't know the exact time, but it sounds like, oh, 120 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: he got the DNA test, called his mom, and then 121 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: called his dad. 122 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe I would. I don't know. It seems so 123 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 2: fast though. 124 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like I would want time just to like 125 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 1: process this information. 126 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, like what does it What does it mean? Like 127 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 2: if you tell your dad that he's not your dad, 128 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 2: Like how does that change your relationship? 129 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 1: And like I'm guessing this is all accurate stuff, but 130 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know. 131 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 3: Me. 132 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: I would need like probably a day to like really like, Okay, 133 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: is this am I seeing this right? Is there like 134 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: a mistake, Like even if it's like totally apparent, I 135 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: think the shock would like put me into a state 136 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: of like I need to like make check this is 137 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: this is right? And then he begins unraveling at all. 138 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 1: He met my mother while she was pregnant. He had 139 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: met John Doe at parties, but said he eventually stopped 140 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,359 Speaker 1: coming around. He wasn't sure if he got deployed or 141 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 1: what happened there but he knew that my mom was 142 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 1: pregnant and that I wasn't his. 143 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 2: Oh what damn? 144 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 1: So he knew. Maybe that's okay. Interesting. He said he 145 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: was in the hospital that day I was born. His 146 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: last name is on my birth certificate. He has always 147 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: been there. And then dad and mom had my brother, 148 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 1: and that's when shit went south with my mother and 149 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: he took us both. I was a kid, he was 150 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: my dad. He's never looked at it any other way. 151 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 1: And when he came to Iowa, he and my grandparents 152 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: were so worried that my mother would show up and 153 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: just try to take me because I share no blood 154 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: with them and they had no right to me. So basically, 155 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: at this once he like before it was maybe kind 156 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: of like a adoptive dad relationship. 157 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 2: But he signed on the birth certificate. 158 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: So he did sign it. Yeah yeah, yeah, like uh 159 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: from a maybe not legally but a or yeah legally 160 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: and like emotionally or whatever. But then he's like, no, 161 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: I'm leaving the mom, and then the mom's like, oh, wait, 162 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: you're not related to anybody. 163 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 2: I don't. 164 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: I don't actually know if putting your name the name 165 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: on the birth certificate, if. 166 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 2: Your name on the birth certificate. 167 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: Is you're legally that person? 168 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 2: I think you're legally bound in some sense father. 169 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: Interesting, So does that mean legally that other person is 170 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: not oh Pie's father? Do I think? Or maybe both 171 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: of them? No, I think I think two daddies. 172 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 2: I don't know. Actually, yeah, Riley look it up. Yeah, Okay, 173 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 2: are you if you sign a birth certificate, are you 174 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 2: legally bound to that kid? 175 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe they could technically both be Okay. 176 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 3: When a man signs the birth certificate, he is acknowledging 177 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 3: that he is the legal and biological father of the child. 178 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 3: When a man signs the birth certificate, he is acknowledging 179 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 3: he is the legal and biological father of the child. 180 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 1: Legal and biological. 181 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, his signing indicates he's agreeing to paternity and legal 182 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 3: responsibilities of being a father. 183 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: So the person that raised op Opie's dad is as 184 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: op he's calling calling him, is legally his father. I 185 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: wonder too, could you look up if if if that 186 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: person ends up not being the biological father, if the 187 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: biological father is also legally their dad. Yeah, to like, 188 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: basically you have two dads? 189 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, because I mean think about the like the 190 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:20,079 Speaker 2: whole paternity case like yeah, like with her, with with 191 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 2: her with. 192 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 3: Okay or regardless if the man is the biological father 193 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 3: or not, he has legal He has legally established himself 194 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 3: as a father, So in the law or in the 195 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 3: eyes of the government, he is a father. 196 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 1: Interesting, No two daddies. Why can't I have two daddies? 197 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 2: I mean, you can? I could? You can't? 198 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: Daddy? Interesting? Wow? Okay, good, good to know, I guess. 199 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: But my parents kept it all a secret. The people 200 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: that knew were my grandparents, some great aunts and uncles, 201 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: my dad's sister, and that's about it. My my brother 202 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 1: and sister did not know. He said when he enrolled 203 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: me in kindergarten, he was worried that something would happen, 204 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: but they just accepted me and that I was his 205 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 1: and that there were no problems. So that's it. My dad, 206 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: who isn't my biological dad, took my brother and I 207 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: from Colorado to Iowa and raised me as his own. 208 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: He could have left me to rot with my mom. 209 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: My dad is an amazing guy. Mentally, this has sucked. 210 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: The only family I have ever had and ever known, 211 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 1: I share absolutely zero blood with except a half brother. 212 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: Blood doesn't mean much. My family is still my family. 213 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 1: My brother's still my brother, my sister's my sister, and 214 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 1: my dad is my dad. I'm going to see a 215 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: counselor and she's great. I don't know how to explain 216 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: what this is like, just know that it's not easy 217 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: and it really really sucks. I could make a part 218 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 1: two if it's wanted. And John Doe has passed away 219 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 1: of a heart attack at forty two in twenty fourteen. 220 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 2: Dang, so your real daddy is dead. 221 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: Man, op just like went through the ringer, Like, real 222 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: dad doesn't exist my family. 223 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 2: Well, the real dad did exist. 224 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 1: It exists. Sorry, yeah, his dad true? That is actually correct? 225 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 2: Oh yeah dude, well I think it's really I mean, 226 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 2: good on the fake dad first, like, you know, standing 227 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 2: up to the plate. 228 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: Opie's dad, like he is like what who ope views 229 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: as his father is not biological but more real, more 230 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: real dad is the true m VP of a story. 231 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 1: I wonder if John Doe ever knew yeah or like 232 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: contested it. Yeah, because it's it's it's it is odd 233 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: that he knew that she was pregnant and still like 234 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: signed for the baby. It sounded like he was aware. 235 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he was aware. 236 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:51,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, but he was just like, I'm just I'm here 237 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: for it, raise his kid. And then they had a 238 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:55,959 Speaker 1: I guess they were like their intentions were like, we'll 239 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 1: have the rest of our together because they had Opie's brother. 240 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, damn crazy, crazy story, crazy stuff. 241 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:09,239 Speaker 1: I'm curious. What would you all do in this scenario? 242 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like again, if you want your family 243 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 2: to stay as it is, just don't get a twenty 244 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 2: three in metas, just. 245 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: Just run away, don't look at it, close your laptop, 246 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 1: sprint as far as you can. 247 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 2: I hope you never would have realized that she was 248 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 2: not related to the rest of the family. 249 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,079 Speaker 1: They need to have like an anti family ruining feature 250 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: right where it's like maybe just see I was going 251 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: to say, even just like the because people just get 252 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: like their percentages usually and share that even the percentages 253 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 1: can give it away. 254 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, what can you do? I just don't get it, 255 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 2: Just don't get it. 256 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: Just run away, just run away. 257 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 2: Return. 258 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 1: But you know what, we're not going to run away 259 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: from what Sam this next story? Let's get it. Am 260 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: I the asshole for adopting my son, but kicking is 261 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: half to the streets. He's not my kid. You know 262 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: I only got so many rooms. Your rooms are expensive, Okay. 263 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 2: Rooms are expensive. Real estate, it is expensive. 264 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: Food. Food is very Vipers be expensive, vipers cool cool shoes, you. 265 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 2: Know shoes, the Sketchers those actually Healey's whoa very expensive 266 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 2: guitar Hero four. 267 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: Our kids have been playing that these days. 268 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 2: We uh. Christian plugged in his Xbox through sixty recently. Yeah, 269 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 2: and he got all of his old video games from home. 270 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 2: So he played Halo the other day, Halo ods t 271 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 2: Taylor three ODST. 272 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: It was fired, dude, right around Warhogs just freaking. 273 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, really bad. I could only play for like ten minutes. 274 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: I was always the worst. Were you guys like the 275 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: worst video game players of your group? 276 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 2: I was the worst? 277 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Riley, I had. 278 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 3: I had three younger brothers, so I have to be 279 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 3: the best at any game I play against them. 280 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: And what about your friend group though that's your age. 281 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 3: Well, like, I grew up with no internet, so the 282 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 3: only people I played with was like my brothers. But 283 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 3: recently playing with my friends, I mean, like I go 284 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 3: pretty close playing we I play wee golf a lot 285 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 3: like the sports golf Riley played. 286 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: The Riley played this game called life ladies and gentlemen. Yea, 287 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: and he won. He was hanging out with the real world. Yeah, 288 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: we should all learn from you. 289 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 3: Sorry, I just don't sit in my basement play video 290 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 3: games like other people playing. 291 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: Wow. 292 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 2: All right, So I thirty male, have an eight year 293 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 2: old son with my ex wife during her second pregnancy. 294 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 2: I was still married and thought the baby was mine. 295 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 2: First mistake. Never just assume the baby is yours. 296 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: Just because you're married to someone. 297 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, come on. But then I learned she cheated and 298 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 2: she had told the other guy that he was the father. 299 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: Ooh. I left the marriage and file for divorce. And 300 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: when my ex son was born, I took a. 301 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 2: DNA test which proved I was not the father to 302 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 2: her younger son. We also did a DNA on my 303 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 2: son during the divorce. He is my biological son. There 304 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 2: we got the divorce went through. I pay a small 305 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 2: amount of child support to even things out at her 306 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 2: house because I earn more than my ex was with 307 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 2: this other guy for a few months of her son's life, 308 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 2: but then he was no longer around. Once he dropped 309 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 2: out of the picture. She tried crawling back to me. 310 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 2: She said, our son was lucky to have me and 311 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 2: she love a dad for her second son. I told 312 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 2: her she better go out and find a good man 313 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 2: and not cheat on him. 314 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: Ooh damn. She looked shocked, and I told her she 315 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: was delusional if she thought I would trust her again 316 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: or would want to raise her son as my own 317 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: after what she did. She told me it would be 318 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: better for the boys to be together always and at 319 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: the four year age gap, they will never know the 320 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: half stuff if she and I were to work together 321 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: and raise them as HOURS firmly said no and told 322 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: her she needed to focus on finding someone else if 323 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: she wanted to give her son a father figure. You can't. 324 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: You can't force someone to take you back or take 325 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: a kid that isn't. There's bad, right, Like, hey, can 326 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: you father my child? Yeah? 327 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 2: Okay, please just do it. 328 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: You're you're you're you're fathering one already and I know 329 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: he's your kid and the other kid is not your kid, 330 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: but just do it both. I heard you like deals. 331 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: I got a two four for two for one, Come on, 332 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: bogo buddy. 333 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 2: Four years on and my ex did not find someone else, 334 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 2: and she still tries to put her son onto me. 335 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 2: I had to bring her back to court to arrange 336 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 2: a neutral place for us to do exchanges of her son, 337 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 2: because when I picked him up from her house, she 338 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 2: would have her younger son ready and waiting to come 339 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 2: with me. 340 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: Oh, I feel bad for this younger son. Yeah, dude, 341 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: he's just the little cute, little pawd this game. 342 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 2: It became a problem and she refused to stop. So 343 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 2: I thought meeting at some location for exchanges would help. 344 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 2: I worked for a small period of time, but then Friday, 345 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,199 Speaker 2: when I was picking my son up for a parent 346 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 2: for my parenting time, she brought her younger son along 347 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 2: and he had a bag packed and waiting to come 348 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 2: with me. It's like an arrested development where he has 349 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 2: the fishing pole and he's just like waiting for his dad, 350 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 2: and he's like, sorry, son, can't make it out. 351 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo. 352 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 2: Dude, do do do do do do? He walked over 353 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 2: with my son, so the son that's not his son, 354 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 2: and held his arms out like he wanted to be 355 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 2: hugged slash held and said he was coming to he 356 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 2: looks so happy. I felt bad because I was not 357 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 2: going to bring him. 358 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 1: Damn dude. God, both of the parents are just like, 359 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 1: fuck this kid. 360 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 2: I gently told him to return to his mom. Poor 361 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 2: kid looked so confused. I left with my son QUI 362 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 2: so no fight could ensue. 363 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 1: Damn. I would just take the freaking I mean, I 364 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:10,479 Speaker 1: would take the kid. It's bad. I see why. Oh 365 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: he's doing what he's doing because then. 366 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:16,400 Speaker 2: The mom is like really hardcore emotional manipulation. 367 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. God, oh dude, yikes. 368 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 2: So X started texting me late Friday night and all 369 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 2: day yesterday saying I was a dick and I should 370 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:29,880 Speaker 2: have had my heart melt enough to let him come. 371 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 2: She said that I have proven to be an amazing 372 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:34,640 Speaker 2: dad to our son and she just wants the same 373 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 2: for her son. And she told me our son wanted 374 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 2: his brother at my house, and I was an ass 375 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 2: for ignoring that too. I mean they are friends, the 376 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 2: two kids. Yeah, yeah, it seems like they have like 377 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 2: a very good relationship with each other. Yeah. 378 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 1: I spoke to my son yesterday and he never asked 379 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: for that or said he wanted it. He did say 380 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: his mom told him to say he wanted his half 381 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 1: brother at my house too, and that he wanted me 382 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 1: to be his half brother's daddy, but he didn't care. 383 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 1: You got your spy bro bruh. At least he's at 384 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:07,640 Speaker 1: least he's like telling him the truth. 385 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like, yeah, yeah, this is what my mom said. 386 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 2: I can't give a shit, dad. 387 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 1: You can do whatever you want, you know, that old 388 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 1: bag always telling always telling me to force you to 389 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:20,360 Speaker 1: adopt my half brother. Dude, the mom's doing some crazy 390 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 1: emotional manipulation right now, like telling the kid exactly what 391 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: to say to the dad. That's both of them. 392 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. God, my exis words get to me though, maybe 393 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 2: because I know her son doesn't really have anyone outside 394 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 2: my ex and my son, and my son is more 395 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 2: into his friends than his half brother. So am I 396 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 2: the asshole? 397 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: A little bit of a I could see maybe some 398 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: some mixed reactions. I'm curious on everyone's comments below. Yeah, yeah, 399 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: I want to know because it's kind of a tough situation. 400 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 1: I mean, it's not his kid, it's not his kid, 401 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 1: it's not his kid. 402 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 2: It's not his kid. Yeah, I mean, I think that's 403 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 2: what it comes down to. It's not his kid. So 404 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 2: it's like, you can't expect him to raise a kid 405 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 2: that's not his kid. 406 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: And if he if he let's in his exis son, 407 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 1: even just one time, that's even more uh leveraged for 408 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: her to emotionally manipulate uh the excess son and ope 409 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 1: and just like continue to get her crawlers. 410 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 2: To tendls, just her octopus hands, her octopus tentacles. 411 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, her octopus tentacles all wrapped around. 412 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. I know, it's it that is I And I think, like, 413 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 2: I mean, she cheated on him, you know. 414 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:34,919 Speaker 1: So you get you're done, You're done, messed up, messed up. 415 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 1: You can't force you can't force it to be fixed. 416 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not his son. 417 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: You cheated. Yeah, And and reminds me she was trying 418 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: to pass off the son as his at first, or 419 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: he always knew. 420 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 3: She was like trying to like, hey, he's always right there, 421 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 3: Like here's the son that's going in the in the 422 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:56,120 Speaker 3: kid is always there. 423 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 1: So there's like always during her second pregnancy, I was 424 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: still married to the two she was He was still 425 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 1: married and thought the baby was his. But then I 426 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: learned she cheated, and she had told the other guy 427 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: that he was the father, so he knew by the 428 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 1: time the kid was born, the kid that was not his. 429 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:15,120 Speaker 2: I think so yeah. 430 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, so he he's known the whole time since the 431 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 1: kid was born. That okay, so it maybe she tried 432 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: to hide Yeah, it's a little unclear. So maybe she 433 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,640 Speaker 1: tried to hide it during the pregnancy but it ultimately 434 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,199 Speaker 1: came out, or maybe he she just told him straight up. 435 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 2: I don't know. 436 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems like this all came out when she 437 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 1: was pregnant, right with the second kid. But yeah, you 438 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 1: just you can't. You can't force him to do it, 439 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 1: especially when you were the one in the wrong you yeah, cheated. 440 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's already doing a lot. I mean, like, 441 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 2: I think he's doing exactly what he should be by 442 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 2: taking care of the kid that is his one hundred percent. Yeah, 443 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 2: so I don't think you can ask more. 444 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 1: Can't ask more, But let us know what you think 445 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 1: down in the comments. And uh, I got something that 446 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,880 Speaker 1: I want to birth to you, Sam, this next story, 447 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 1: this next story, Give it to me.