WEBVTT - HARRISON BURTON

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<v Speaker 1>This is cut to It with Steve Smith Senior at

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<v Speaker 1>production of The Black Effect and I Heart Radio. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Smith Senior and I'm ger Little John and this

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<v Speaker 1>is cut to it. Good do it, Good do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get down to do it. Good do it. We

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<v Speaker 1>asked the questions you always want to know, but no

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<v Speaker 1>one ever asked, let's cut to it. You ain't heard

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<v Speaker 1>about it? Then we're about to left you. Now it's all.

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<v Speaker 1>We got one of Charlotte's own, born and raised in Charlotte.

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<v Speaker 1>He's racing with one of the oldest race teams known

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<v Speaker 1>the mankind, right, the Wood Brothers Racing Team. They have

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<v Speaker 1>been around for centuries. They were racing cars when the

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<v Speaker 1>Roman Empire was still raising. Might as loven you? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>So we have NASCAR Cup Series driver the number twenty one,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean could have been a number anyway, number twenty one,

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<v Speaker 1>Ford Mustang. Welcome to the Cut to a podcast, Harrison Burton.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get to it. I got some goat ones. Alright, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>what three what three places would you love to travel to? Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a good question. I love going to the Bahamas,

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<v Speaker 1>so probably go there be one. Uh, A lot of

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<v Speaker 1>my families from Poland and I went there when I

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<v Speaker 1>was a little kid. Was pretty cool. So I've been

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<v Speaker 1>there pretty neat what what how old were you when

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<v Speaker 1>you went too? Probably eleven or twelve? Oh that was

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<v Speaker 1>like two six months, probably two years, two years at max. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's crazy. That's not that long ago, right, it

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<v Speaker 1>really is, but it is to me. But uh, number three,

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<v Speaker 1>number three probably go to Italy. I've never been there.

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<v Speaker 1>That'd be cool. Check it out. Being a NASCAR driver

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<v Speaker 1>stick shift or automatic, stick shift all the way. Why,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just better. It's just well it's not better, it's

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<v Speaker 1>more fun. It's your store. So so the stick shift

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<v Speaker 1>the automatic nowadays, like if you buy a sports car,

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be automatic because it's faster than any human

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<v Speaker 1>could be. Right. Uh, but there's something cool about having

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<v Speaker 1>a tool in the car that you can have more

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<v Speaker 1>control over. Um, so if I was to buy a

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<v Speaker 1>car that was Are you allowed to buy a car

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<v Speaker 1>at this young age? I have I bought a car

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<v Speaker 1>for Yeah, you just bought it to No, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>just buy it. I bought it two years ago. That's

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<v Speaker 1>just bought. They might not they might not sponsor us,

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<v Speaker 1>So don't say the name that don't sponsor me anymore,

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<v Speaker 1>So I can't then definitely don't sus right, I wasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't gonna ask um what did they automatic? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>It was they didn't have a manual. They didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>a manual. They didn't have So the manufacturer I drove

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<v Speaker 1>for at the time was Toyota, and they came out

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<v Speaker 1>with the Super and it didn't have a manual option.

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<v Speaker 1>So I got the automatic and then now drive for Ford.

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<v Speaker 1>So I have a big f two fifty I drive

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<v Speaker 1>around and that doesn't have that's not a stick show. No, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not six shifts. But my race card is I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get with that. Al right, So go ahead, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, be biased. Does it look like I've ever

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<v Speaker 1>driven a stick shift? Yeah, I'd say so. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I feel like I could see it. I took

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<v Speaker 1>my driver's test in with a stick shot. Look at

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<v Speaker 1>that as a Ford Focus Ford Focus. You like how

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<v Speaker 1>I dropped that home? That's nice? It was green green

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<v Speaker 1>Ford Focus. You know, racing green is bad luck, but

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<v Speaker 1>just trying. I'm just trying to be a legal drive racing.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know no idea. There's a about thirty thousand

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<v Speaker 1>different superstitions, and I've heard them all from the Wood,

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<v Speaker 1>the Wood family, because they, yeah, exactly, they were from

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they started racing in nineteen fifties. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so the Roman Empire and all that was there, like

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<v Speaker 1>you said, and uh, hard to change a granite wheel,

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't it. So the speaking of that, when they used

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<v Speaker 1>to race, you would just buy the car from the

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<v Speaker 1>showroom and then go take it to race. So how

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<v Speaker 1>do you know that? These people, the Woods told me,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just that's right, Yeah, I gotta listen to

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<v Speaker 1>your elders, right, So, um, they you know, they would

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<v Speaker 1>buy them and then just go race them. And when

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<v Speaker 1>they would have to change parts, they had a an

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<v Speaker 1>old oak tree out in Stewart, Virginia, which is where

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<v Speaker 1>this all started, where they would hoist the engine out

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<v Speaker 1>of the car with an oak tree over the limb

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<v Speaker 1>and pull it out like just crazy stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Where it is it's literally like changing granite wheels like

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<v Speaker 1>they It was from you know, stage one where they

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<v Speaker 1>started it. And uh, now where our sport and motor

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<v Speaker 1>sports in general is pretty nuts compared to that. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>She'll give me one of the superstitious, superstitious that they

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<v Speaker 1>told you thousand. Yeah, the most recent one was fifty

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<v Speaker 1>dollar bills is bad luck. And we had a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>rough start to our rookie season. Was leading the Dayton

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<v Speaker 1>of five hundred and flipped. Uh. The next week got

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<v Speaker 1>into a crash. Someone spun in front of me and

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<v Speaker 1>I hit him. The next week it was Bubble Wallace

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<v Speaker 1>who spun out and lots of smoke and then I

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<v Speaker 1>hit him in the side. Yeah, so not his fault.

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<v Speaker 1>He obviously didn't want to spend out. I'm actually gonna

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<v Speaker 1>text Bubble he's he came up to me after he

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<v Speaker 1>said where are you going? I said, well, apparently into

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<v Speaker 1>your door? But what else? Right? So, uh yeah, a

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<v Speaker 1>whole bunch of bad things happened, right, and uh Eddie

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<v Speaker 1>would one of the Wood brothers. So I'm texting Bubba.

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<v Speaker 1>I just said, hey, Harrison said you left up his

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<v Speaker 1>race the other day? What's up with that? That was

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<v Speaker 1>not what I said, but it was okay, we got

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<v Speaker 1>the recorded one. I want to get my phone out.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't fix this situation. That's why we can edit

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that's true. Yeah, it's true, dang many So all right,

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<v Speaker 1>So what's another So so the superstitionous. Yeah, so all

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff is going bad, and uh, Eddie would just

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<v Speaker 1>one of the Wood brothers, Eddie Eddie Eddie Tobacco. No, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just trying to get it. He's he's pretty tall,

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<v Speaker 1>he's you know, six one, gray hair kind of guy. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>he's uh, pretty country guy. Tobacco though, from a guy

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<v Speaker 1>from Charlotte, but continued, Yes, he's hey, man, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I know what's going wrong. Why we've had a bad

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<v Speaker 1>couple of races. Why is that founded fifty bill in

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<v Speaker 1>his wallet? And uh so Eddie's the problem. Eddie was

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<v Speaker 1>the problem. He even said. So, yeah, I'll tell you that.

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<v Speaker 1>He's texting me, man, what are you doing that fifty?

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<v Speaker 1>We'll take you. He I don't know what we don't,

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<v Speaker 1>but I didn't know it. I didn't know his bad luck. So, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's bad luck. He's not have no money.

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<v Speaker 1>That's really bad luck. Yeah, that's really bad. Yeah. Beggars

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<v Speaker 1>can't be choosers, right. I ain't never seen a broke

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<v Speaker 1>brother got good luck. Green peanuts is bad luck. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure why that one. What peanuts like if you're

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<v Speaker 1>eating peanuts before the race, you're gonna crash. Man, this

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<v Speaker 1>this sounds like a lot of excuses. Said how I'd say, California,

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<v Speaker 1>when you crash and I hit you, that's you're a

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<v Speaker 1>rookie though. Yeah, so I don't have that many people

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like yet, that's right exactly. There's a big

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<v Speaker 1>yellow stripe on her bumper. It might as well be

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<v Speaker 1>a target. It's like, hey, kie, you have a yellow stripes,

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<v Speaker 1>two yellow stripes on your back bumper, which those two

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<v Speaker 1>yellow obviously? Yeah, so it's I guess the old tradition was, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy is the beginner, go easy on him now, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But now it's should they should put a student driver? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>So now that's hey, there's blood in the water because

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<v Speaker 1>this guy is this first year, so go hit him

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<v Speaker 1>out of the way. It's a complete opposite of what

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<v Speaker 1>the old tradition was. Uh. And now guys when they

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<v Speaker 1>get to cup are ready, right, It's not like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you're ready, I hope. So yeah, you know, I think

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna get better as time goes for sure, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know you're ready. You know how to drive a car.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really small details at that point. So it used

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<v Speaker 1>to be like I think I'm just guessing. How do

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<v Speaker 1>you know what he used to be? I think just

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<v Speaker 1>because my dad raced for so many years, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I heard stories from him, A generation of racing. Would

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<v Speaker 1>you would you would? Would you say you are because

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of family members. Yeah, I'd say I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a second generation racer. So my my granddad, my dad's

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<v Speaker 1>dad did some racing locally, nothing too much. Uh, and

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<v Speaker 1>then my dad and my uncle both went the cup

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<v Speaker 1>and made it a cup. You're talking about my you know,

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<v Speaker 1>my grandpa did some You never got beyond local to

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<v Speaker 1>be considered a professional racer. You have to go beyond local?

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<v Speaker 1>Is the standard? I don't know. I don't, I don't,

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's different. I'm always interested in, like the different dynamics,

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<v Speaker 1>the levels of of sports. You know, you obviously you

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<v Speaker 1>have the weirdness you need, so hey, you gotta do this,

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<v Speaker 1>you got, but there's so many other there's so many

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<v Speaker 1>more deep texture to the detail of what's considered a

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<v Speaker 1>true blue racer. Like you know, listening to and this,

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<v Speaker 1>these are my words, and this is some of what

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<v Speaker 1>I heard before when he first came on the scene,

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<v Speaker 1>Joey Logano, he was considered a you know, he was

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<v Speaker 1>not considered a real racer. He was considered a a

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<v Speaker 1>money racer or a video game racer William Bryan or

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<v Speaker 1>or this guy is you know, just not hearing that.

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<v Speaker 1>We've had Jeff Gordon on here and listening to how

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<v Speaker 1>he had to open up the phone book and call

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<v Speaker 1>his sponsors. Right, what's considered the standard to be considered

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<v Speaker 1>a racer? Like, so you're saying the second but technically

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<v Speaker 1>the first guy did a little bit locally that got

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<v Speaker 1>the second guy, which is your dad, the taste of it, right.

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<v Speaker 1>He may not have been as successful, but he got

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<v Speaker 1>he started to taste so and then now you're in it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, as your first. And there's certainly the local

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<v Speaker 1>guys that like when I was coming up through the

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<v Speaker 1>ranks that I raced with that I'm like, oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy is so good. A guy named Bubba Pollard's

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<v Speaker 1>one that I think of off the off the top

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<v Speaker 1>of my head. Uh. Race caused super late models. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a local, short trip. So imagine what you see on Sunday, right,

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<v Speaker 1>the cup cars a little bit sleeker, a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit lighter, so it is light it's honestly

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<v Speaker 1>one of the fastest cars I've ever driven. Uh it's

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<v Speaker 1>like uh so it's got six d fifty horsepower and

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<v Speaker 1>it weighs under less than three thousand pounds. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>he that's that's pretty light. So for as far as

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<v Speaker 1>as far as the car right now, So it's two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred more pounds. Ye, So why is that significant? So

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<v Speaker 1>any weight that you bring with you is more that

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<v Speaker 1>you have to basically pull when you get on the gas,

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<v Speaker 1>right per driver? Know, how did they adjust for you,

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<v Speaker 1>like say, say like after things given? Yeah, So it's

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<v Speaker 1>actually a big game that gets played. Now. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>way in every every start of the year at Daytona. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna wait the drivers. Why because every car passed

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<v Speaker 1>away the same walk off music before you weigh in, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's not like us'd be cool though. It's

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<v Speaker 1>in a it's in a little infield care center where

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<v Speaker 1>you go after you crash. So do you bear? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you strip down like the guys in the combine? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>And they because there used to be stories of a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of non muscle individual it's all separate. It's all separate. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So you don't exactly exactly. You wouldn't want people. You

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<v Speaker 1>guys will flown. You'd be flounders at the if we

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<v Speaker 1>had the combine. Oh dude, can you imagine, Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>can you imagine some of these dudes. What's crazy? I

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<v Speaker 1>work out four or five days a week doing what running? Lifting?

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<v Speaker 1>You're lifting uh, base weights like real weights or like

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<v Speaker 1>jazzer size weight. Yeah, tell me show me your workout.

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<v Speaker 1>So a lot of it was was well. So I

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<v Speaker 1>was at a facility with wait moved forward. So when

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<v Speaker 1>I was with Toyota, wherever is that wherever you used

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<v Speaker 1>to being currently, I'm looking at you. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>you're using either one of those weights. Man, I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>listen this. I'm just having fun with you because you literally, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you're not I'm not a built guy. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not secret. No, no no, no, I was. I was about

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<v Speaker 1>to say, you literally just got on the scene. Right

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<v Speaker 1>as far as what you've been on the scene for

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<v Speaker 1>a long time. Your second I think third generation racer, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you know this this game, you know this sport. However,

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<v Speaker 1>you just have to master your craft. You you know

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<v Speaker 1>all the tricks of the trade, but doing the tricks

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<v Speaker 1>of the trade actually in the trade and doing it

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<v Speaker 1>at the right time and doing it at the right place.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how you master your craft. You haven't mastered it,

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<v Speaker 1>but because you were rased by the the the guy

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<v Speaker 1>who's mastercrafted. Yeah, what's what's crazy is it's changed so much.

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<v Speaker 1>So when my dad was racing, it was, hey, this

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<v Speaker 1>this driver is super smart at knowing what shocks and

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<v Speaker 1>springs and all sorts of measurement, whatever you want to say,

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<v Speaker 1>goes into the car. And now they have engineers that

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<v Speaker 1>are the smartest people I've ever talked to, that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>can do it all on the computer, can say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what's gonna you know optimal. This is what

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<v Speaker 1>is optimal for this weekend. We think we're gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>try it and then you're gonna feel it, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to relate to us the information. Well, now

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<v Speaker 1>the driver, that driver that hey, I know what shock

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<v Speaker 1>goes in the car, that's sleep Because the engineers are

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<v Speaker 1>so good that you can't keep up with them. You

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<v Speaker 1>didn't go to college and learn what they've learned. And

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<v Speaker 1>so now it's how can I be the best driver

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<v Speaker 1>I can be? Obviously those guys worked on being better

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<v Speaker 1>drivers but now it's Hey, we're watching film of every race,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm watching data on every race I'm working out I'm running.

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<v Speaker 1>How does that play for you to be an optimum Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>race card, the biggest thing is the more of your

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<v Speaker 1>heart rate is elevated and the worst your mental capacity is. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So for us, it's a lot of decisions. You were

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<v Speaker 1>saying that as for me to confirm, No, that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>what people have told me, at least that that I've

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<v Speaker 1>worked with. What's interesting about what you just said. The

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<v Speaker 1>people in racing are the smartest people. Yeah, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I go to football and their legs people are the

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<v Speaker 1>smartest people. You go to baseball and there you guys

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<v Speaker 1>are the smartest people. But yet you know, not anything

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<v Speaker 1>with you is. But yet it's like, but the other

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<v Speaker 1>two you want the super Bowl? You know, It's just

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<v Speaker 1>like it's the game of sports has made it. Who

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<v Speaker 1>can have as many people that can give them as

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<v Speaker 1>much information? But the end of the day, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to do it right. Yes, yeah, absolutely, and and you

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<v Speaker 1>know that's that's what makes it awesome. At the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the day, you can have Tony Stewart who looks

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<v Speaker 1>how he looked and he kicked everyone's ass like he

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<v Speaker 1>just did. He was awesome. And you have guys like

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy Johnson Carl Edwards that go run marathons, are ripped

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<v Speaker 1>and they kick everyone's ass. They're not ropped. Carl was, man,

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<v Speaker 1>do you ever see Carl Edwards? Well, I mean he's

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<v Speaker 1>probably not you compared to people you seeing, compared to

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<v Speaker 1>people I've seen. Okay, I just wanted to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>we weren't in that room at Carl Edwards said ripped.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I ain't never seen a rip. Yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think my heart rate was when you

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<v Speaker 1>were playing after a different place, or every play, after

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<v Speaker 1>a big play or not that. So that's why when

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<v Speaker 1>you said that, if you go back, if you go

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<v Speaker 1>back and look at any of my pictures. When I played,

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<v Speaker 1>I wear my watch on my right hand, so I

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<v Speaker 1>used to wear a heart rate monitor and you could

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<v Speaker 1>look and see and I could look at see, and

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<v Speaker 1>depending on how my heart rate was going, there would

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<v Speaker 1>be times where I come off the field to let

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<v Speaker 1>it get that calm down. Because when I trained, like

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<v Speaker 1>if I was in off season right now, if I

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<v Speaker 1>was playing, I would train and he would make sure

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<v Speaker 1>based on these numbers, we would phase in the intensity

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<v Speaker 1>of my workout so I would not peek too early.

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<v Speaker 1>It makes sense. That's why sometimes being a gym rat

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<v Speaker 1>in an organized scheduled sport, it's not good because you

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<v Speaker 1>can overtrain, you can you can actually do too much.

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<v Speaker 1>So you probably if you're you're saying that thinking about it,

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<v Speaker 1>you're probably you probably need to, like you're doing m

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<v Speaker 1>M A or some of that stuff, need to add

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<v Speaker 1>something else to it to maybe just kind of push

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<v Speaker 1>or remove something to take it back. Explain to me

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<v Speaker 1>why the simulating part is such a key key component

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<v Speaker 1>to racing. Yes, it's certainly newer. Um Like back in

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<v Speaker 1>the day, they howl, do you one? Okay? Continue? I

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<v Speaker 1>looked twelve one. I'm gonna need some I d Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>If I were trying to order a beer, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>long process. They gotta scan it, you know. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because you look like you don't even you look like

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<v Speaker 1>you have your learner's permit. Yeah, I was racing. I

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<v Speaker 1>have my learners permit that So I was all right,

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<v Speaker 1>look how he's just smile. He's like, idiot, I've been

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<v Speaker 1>doing a lot. I've been doing a lot more things

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<v Speaker 1>than you have. It's a good story because my driving instructor,

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<v Speaker 1>when I was, you know, fifteen or ever get my

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<v Speaker 1>driver's license, fell asleep when I was driving, like driving

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<v Speaker 1>him around because he knew I was a driver somehow,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's like, oh, you're good. You know how you

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<v Speaker 1>know how disrespectful this is that you at your driver's

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<v Speaker 1>permit probably had like you're driving a car like we've

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<v Speaker 1>had a few NASCAR guys now and it's literally like

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<v Speaker 1>guys are driving cars in Nascar, like still in pull ups,

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<v Speaker 1>still still in pull ups, and that's remarkable to me.

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<v Speaker 1>It's crazy. I started when I was five. When you

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<v Speaker 1>look like you look like you wore a night pull

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<v Speaker 1>up to use like seven or eight. That was a

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<v Speaker 1>chuckle of Steve. You're absolutely I love cut to It

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<v Speaker 1>questions answered. That's what I'm here for. A brother cut

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<v Speaker 1>to a podcast dot com. This past weekend was the

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<v Speaker 1>hottest race we've had all year. And there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of guys that can You can run different stuff to

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<v Speaker 1>help you stay cool in the race. I ran just

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<v Speaker 1>a fan in my helmet. You can run a suit

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<v Speaker 1>that you plug in that runs water through. You can

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<v Speaker 1>run a fan to your back. So I said, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a little weird. As a little weird. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>when you turn the cool seed on your cars and

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<v Speaker 1>kind of feels like you beat yourself or something. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. It's not good when you're full

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<v Speaker 1>sweat and you turn that sucker on. It's like yeah yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so uh yeah. So this weekend I was pretty hot,

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<v Speaker 1>Like the HoTT I've been in a long time. Was

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<v Speaker 1>the temperature I would imagine in the car. It wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to imagine, I just want I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know for sure, there's no thermometer something in the

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<v Speaker 1>old car. Yeah, for sure, in the old car, it

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<v Speaker 1>would get on the hottest, hottest days you could get

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred forty on an average day, you get two

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<v Speaker 1>D inside the car. Okay, yeah, I can see you imagine. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, there's there's no thermometer, right, but uh, they

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<v Speaker 1>did put something in and that's what they came up with. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's it's it's super hot. There's no airflow in there.

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<v Speaker 1>There's so that's why you know, the helmet fan is

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<v Speaker 1>a big deal, because it's just any fresh air. You

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<v Speaker 1>get that air that sits still in the car, and

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<v Speaker 1>it just gets hotter and hotter and hotter. That's when

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<v Speaker 1>you start kind of you know, you'll start having that

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<v Speaker 1>mental fatigue where you can't make good decisions you're just

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<v Speaker 1>focused on Um I just thought about it. People getting

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<v Speaker 1>mentally fatigued. Oh yes, if anybody feigning while driving, not

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<v Speaker 1>while but after pass out after races you just water

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<v Speaker 1>obviously not driving, not driving, not that I know of.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you ever got delirious so kind of like seeing doubles.

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<v Speaker 1>The worst I got I had when I was younger.

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<v Speaker 1>I had asthma really bad, and so I'm allergic to dust.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I was at a road course and their

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<v Speaker 1>sand on either side of the course and so they

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<v Speaker 1>get kicked up, and so I had an asthma tack

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<v Speaker 1>in the car. So about two to three laps ago

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<v Speaker 1>it was bad. I had kind of fallen out of

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<v Speaker 1>the car or deal and then uh finished the race

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<v Speaker 1>and got out got my tailor. I don't know, I

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<v Speaker 1>just kept going. Yeah, I don't remember, you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>was probably I was probably fifteen sixteen, but yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>was just you know, a race that got had had

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<v Speaker 1>gotten really spread out. So I was thankful I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>really racing hard with anybody, and I could just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of pace myself. Uh and uh, I still finished like

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<v Speaker 1>third or something, So it's okay. It was only with

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<v Speaker 1>a few laps ago that it happened. So so stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like that that will jump up on you. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think if you're I think if you're prepared physically for that,

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<v Speaker 1>it affects you less. Let's get into a little funny stuff, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you're a family history, Yeah, man, what is the dinner

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<v Speaker 1>table looking like? What things given? With all of that

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<v Speaker 1>race knowledge. It's funny because we don't really talk racing much.

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<v Speaker 1>Um me and my dad in particular drew up loving

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<v Speaker 1>sports and and he we obviously both love racing. So

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<v Speaker 1>when I was at the racetracker he was, we would

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<v Speaker 1>talk about racing a lot of time. We just like

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<v Speaker 1>to watch basketball or football together. What's just what's what's

0:24:00.520 --> 0:24:03.400
<v Speaker 1>what's she? What's your dad's team? My dad's. My dad

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<v Speaker 1>likes the Horntson Duke, so I'm the same way. I

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<v Speaker 1>like the Hornetson Duke and the Panthers obviously really like

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<v Speaker 1>the Panthers. Yeah, no, you can't tell. You could not tell. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I love it though. Yeah, I had this one since

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<v Speaker 1>I was like thirteen, so two months ago, up some

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<v Speaker 1>paper route money, yeah, yeah, throwing off my huffy bike, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the whole deal. So yeah, I always wear it to

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<v Speaker 1>the stage. So what about things giving on? Like grandpa, cousin,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta you got a cousin, brother, everybody's who? First

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<v Speaker 1>of all, who does not like race? Who is there

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<v Speaker 1>anybody in a family that does not like racing? My

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<v Speaker 1>mom certainly doesn't like that. I do it. I don't think, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's safety and that's safety mom, right, But she loves

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<v Speaker 1>she she likes. But there's always there's always one family member,

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<v Speaker 1>Uncle Leo, like no, I don't think no, like everyone

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<v Speaker 1>does it? Like well, We've got four people that have

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<v Speaker 1>done it professionally in our family. My cousin who yep,

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Burton, he races right now in Xfinity. Um my

0:25:11.200 --> 0:25:15.200
<v Speaker 1>uncle Ward, Uncle Ward, Uncle Ward was in cup for

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<v Speaker 1>number number years one the Dayton of five hundred. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's pretty legit. And then uh, my dad was was

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<v Speaker 1>in cut for twenty years. And now yep, Jeff, yes, sir,

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Burton, and uh and then you and then me yep.

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<v Speaker 1>So four of us have done it professionally. How many

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<v Speaker 1>of how many have tried it and not succeeded for

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<v Speaker 1>various reasons. Uh So, the only one I can think

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<v Speaker 1>of is my there's two brothers. There's three brothers. There's

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<v Speaker 1>three brothers. So the two everyone in racing knows of

0:25:50.440 --> 0:25:54.159
<v Speaker 1>his Ward and my dad. And then there's a middle brother, Brian.

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<v Speaker 1>Brian was the man in go karts one more State

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<v Speaker 1>champ Aint been chips and everybody and go karts. And

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<v Speaker 1>so when my dad and my uncle tried to go

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<v Speaker 1>racing to do it as a job, he said, you're dumb, like,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you guys doing? So he went and he's

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<v Speaker 1>he's running. Our family comes from a really small town

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<v Speaker 1>in South Boston, Virginia, and they run a construction business

0:26:19.280 --> 0:26:22.680
<v Speaker 1>up there. So he took that over and then my

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<v Speaker 1>to my my dad and my uncle went racing and

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<v Speaker 1>it worked out for him. But he was rumored to

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<v Speaker 1>be better than both of them, which is pretty crazy

0:26:31.119 --> 0:26:36.720
<v Speaker 1>that he decided. Yeah. So, but he's done awesome with that. Uh.

0:26:36.840 --> 0:26:38.879
<v Speaker 1>And it's pretty cool because that's kind of some of

0:26:38.880 --> 0:26:41.879
<v Speaker 1>our family legacy that he's carried on as well. So

0:26:42.359 --> 0:26:44.800
<v Speaker 1>at the family table, when you all when when your

0:26:44.840 --> 0:26:48.040
<v Speaker 1>hand and stuff is it only left? Only left? I

0:26:48.119 --> 0:26:52.120
<v Speaker 1>only left cassing master potables on the left. Yeah, it's

0:26:52.119 --> 0:26:54.280
<v Speaker 1>a long way around the table. There's a lot of us,

0:26:54.400 --> 0:26:57.200
<v Speaker 1>but left only Man, how many people? How many people

0:26:57.200 --> 0:27:01.160
<v Speaker 1>are your family? Oh gosh, so I've got on my

0:27:01.160 --> 0:27:03.680
<v Speaker 1>my dad's side, I've got well just big one side,

0:27:03.720 --> 0:27:09.000
<v Speaker 1>one side because not both sides mingles, no, yeah no,

0:27:09.119 --> 0:27:12.040
<v Speaker 1>But so like what side do you claim? Oh gosh,

0:27:12.119 --> 0:27:16.880
<v Speaker 1>that's a heart that's a loaded question. Man. I don't

0:27:16.880 --> 0:27:20.440
<v Speaker 1>like any no kid, but I dad's side of your mom.

0:27:20.520 --> 0:27:23.240
<v Speaker 1>So I'll say if I go from my dad's side,

0:27:23.359 --> 0:27:28.680
<v Speaker 1>he's got obviously two parents, he's got a step mom,

0:27:28.800 --> 0:27:33.120
<v Speaker 1>he's got three brothers who have one of them has

0:27:33.359 --> 0:27:36.840
<v Speaker 1>three kids, one of them has one kid, and then

0:27:36.880 --> 0:27:41.119
<v Speaker 1>my dad has me and my sister, and then my

0:27:41.119 --> 0:27:44.719
<v Speaker 1>my dad ward his daughter has two daughters and that's

0:27:44.760 --> 0:27:49.680
<v Speaker 1>the only grandkids so far. So yeah, something like that. Yeah,

0:27:49.720 --> 0:27:51.840
<v Speaker 1>I haven't really, I don't know the number off the

0:27:51.840 --> 0:27:53.400
<v Speaker 1>top of my head, which I guess is bad. But

0:27:53.640 --> 0:27:56.240
<v Speaker 1>so I spent a lot of time with my my

0:27:56.320 --> 0:28:01.119
<v Speaker 1>dad's family, my grandma and so he was one of four.

0:28:01.600 --> 0:28:04.439
<v Speaker 1>But then my mom so during the holidays, but like,

0:28:04.760 --> 0:28:07.320
<v Speaker 1>so I went up over my dad's and spent with

0:28:07.359 --> 0:28:10.960
<v Speaker 1>my grandmother and stuff. Holidays, but like summer and all

0:28:10.960 --> 0:28:14.120
<v Speaker 1>that stuff, you know, spent with my mom. My mom

0:28:14.240 --> 0:28:18.960
<v Speaker 1>is one of thirteen kids, like brothers and sisters. I

0:28:19.000 --> 0:28:21.640
<v Speaker 1>have thirteen aunts and uncles. And then it's so it's

0:28:21.680 --> 0:28:24.320
<v Speaker 1>like you have a giant family. It's like sixty of us.

0:28:25.480 --> 0:28:31.879
<v Speaker 1>That's really it's terrible. You think, so it's terrible. I think, no,

0:28:32.600 --> 0:28:38.240
<v Speaker 1>here's why it's terrible. When there's so many people and

0:28:38.360 --> 0:28:41.840
<v Speaker 1>so many adults. People are coming and going, so when

0:28:41.880 --> 0:28:44.520
<v Speaker 1>you see them, it's a great reminder that maybe you

0:28:44.600 --> 0:28:49.600
<v Speaker 1>haven't followed up. It's like, damn, I haven't talked to

0:28:49.640 --> 0:28:56.320
<v Speaker 1>my my my cousin Evett, but Evett has like two kids. Yeah,

0:28:56.360 --> 0:28:58.560
<v Speaker 1>and you feel bad because you're like, well, I haven't

0:28:58.600 --> 0:29:02.240
<v Speaker 1>talked to my my my cousin, but I'm kind of

0:29:02.400 --> 0:29:04.680
<v Speaker 1>looked at it like they're my nephews. But then there's

0:29:04.760 --> 0:29:09.000
<v Speaker 1>my my uncle Tim, who's more like my brother m right,

0:29:09.200 --> 0:29:13.120
<v Speaker 1>and who is I think a eight years older than me.

0:29:14.880 --> 0:29:17.280
<v Speaker 1>I have an uncle who's eight years over right, So

0:29:17.800 --> 0:29:19.680
<v Speaker 1>so it's just kind of you know, So it's it's

0:29:19.720 --> 0:29:22.600
<v Speaker 1>like when we have a family reunion. There's times I

0:29:22.680 --> 0:29:27.280
<v Speaker 1>have I have seen people I probably haven't seen, like

0:29:29.160 --> 0:29:32.360
<v Speaker 1>especially I imagine when you were playing too, it was

0:29:32.400 --> 0:29:35.000
<v Speaker 1>I was much busier, and you know you had to

0:29:35.040 --> 0:29:38.280
<v Speaker 1>pick and choose, like you know, which events are we

0:29:38.360 --> 0:29:40.400
<v Speaker 1>going to because we only have this amount of time.

0:29:40.520 --> 0:29:42.800
<v Speaker 1>Like for you, your off seasons, how many six weeks?

0:29:42.840 --> 0:29:46.040
<v Speaker 1>I believe three weeks shorts, like six weeks in the winter,

0:29:46.680 --> 0:29:48.760
<v Speaker 1>six weeks in the winter, so you've got six weeks

0:29:49.200 --> 0:29:53.920
<v Speaker 1>to also stay in shape, train and also dollar back

0:29:53.960 --> 0:29:58.400
<v Speaker 1>to relax, relax, Like that's that's counterintuitive, Like how do

0:29:58.480 --> 0:30:02.760
<v Speaker 1>you stay in shape and then get away and clear

0:30:02.840 --> 0:30:06.600
<v Speaker 1>your mind? Yeah? What do you do for that? Uh,

0:30:06.720 --> 0:30:11.320
<v Speaker 1>he's still trying to figure it out. Rookie season busters

0:30:11.360 --> 0:30:17.280
<v Speaker 1>are like, yeah, last year I was BBNJ party. What

0:30:17.320 --> 0:30:21.920
<v Speaker 1>do you do to boys only seventh grade party in

0:30:22.000 --> 0:30:25.720
<v Speaker 1>my house? You know? Yeah? So they were they were

0:30:25.800 --> 0:30:32.160
<v Speaker 1>dancing like they got COVID six ft oh man? Yeah,

0:30:32.560 --> 0:30:35.320
<v Speaker 1>so what do you do before relaxing? Oh man? And

0:30:35.400 --> 0:30:38.920
<v Speaker 1>the winner? This winner was the least relaxing off season

0:30:38.960 --> 0:30:43.080
<v Speaker 1>I've ever had, because there wasn't. This is actual. All

0:30:43.120 --> 0:30:46.440
<v Speaker 1>the other ones weren't off season because you weren't. You

0:30:46.480 --> 0:30:49.720
<v Speaker 1>weren't a professional. You were a professional, but you weren't.

0:30:49.240 --> 0:30:53.080
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't at the top, right, So this is actually

0:30:53.120 --> 0:30:55.320
<v Speaker 1>that wasn't at your off season. That was you thought

0:30:55.320 --> 0:30:58.800
<v Speaker 1>of the off season. It was actually your transition to

0:30:58.920 --> 0:31:02.760
<v Speaker 1>become actually so so I ended my season last year

0:31:03.160 --> 0:31:06.800
<v Speaker 1>on an affinity team, right, which is the middle level,

0:31:06.880 --> 0:31:08.880
<v Speaker 1>the step right below cup, which is where I am

0:31:08.920 --> 0:31:14.320
<v Speaker 1>now at the top. Yeah, yeah, no more. I haven't

0:31:14.360 --> 0:31:16.560
<v Speaker 1>one yet or won a championship yet, so I'm not

0:31:16.600 --> 0:31:19.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't see myself as at the top. But you

0:31:19.040 --> 0:31:21.440
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying that the top level. Yeah, I

0:31:21.520 --> 0:31:24.520
<v Speaker 1>wasn't calling you that. I appreciate you. Yeah, I wasn't.

0:31:24.560 --> 0:31:27.120
<v Speaker 1>I was just talking about the Yeah, I'm with you, yep.

0:31:27.200 --> 0:31:30.400
<v Speaker 1>So I mean I'm in the top series for congratulations,

0:31:30.400 --> 0:31:32.000
<v Speaker 1>thank you. Yeah. I take a lot of pride in

0:31:32.000 --> 0:31:38.040
<v Speaker 1>it because four year old. Yeah exactly, And it's crazy.

0:31:38.160 --> 0:31:39.800
<v Speaker 1>I do feel like a four year old. These guys

0:31:39.840 --> 0:31:44.640
<v Speaker 1>are like, man that's watching the hundred year old dudes. Yeah,

0:31:44.760 --> 0:31:47.240
<v Speaker 1>this is not a hundred but you know there's guys

0:31:47.280 --> 0:31:49.960
<v Speaker 1>that are in their forties and that's cool though. Yeah,

0:31:49.960 --> 0:31:53.280
<v Speaker 1>it's really cool. The transition was crazy because I had

0:31:53.320 --> 0:31:56.960
<v Speaker 1>a new manufacturer, uh, so meeting all those people. I

0:31:57.000 --> 0:32:00.400
<v Speaker 1>had a new race team, uh, which is part of

0:32:00.480 --> 0:32:03.440
<v Speaker 1>an alliance. So I'm racing for the Wood Brothers, which

0:32:03.480 --> 0:32:05.800
<v Speaker 1>has helped from Team Penskey, which you can see Ian

0:32:05.840 --> 0:32:08.920
<v Speaker 1>has a Team Penskey sweater on. It's not on my

0:32:08.960 --> 0:32:14.720
<v Speaker 1>podcast right now. Well he's over there, you know, beans

0:32:14.760 --> 0:32:21.320
<v Speaker 1>behind the scenes. No no free take shirts and hats. Yeah,

0:32:21.360 --> 0:32:23.760
<v Speaker 1>that's what I'm saying. You come here, no, no, no,

0:32:23.880 --> 0:32:27.880
<v Speaker 1>largest you see these mediums. Dr dude. Yeah, we actually

0:32:27.880 --> 0:32:29.760
<v Speaker 1>talked about that. We were like, damn, we forgot what

0:32:29.840 --> 0:32:33.120
<v Speaker 1>you did. Now we didn't just on the probably bottom

0:32:33.160 --> 0:32:36.800
<v Speaker 1>tier your guest list, now didn't taking notes were good? Okay, yeah,

0:32:36.960 --> 0:32:40.080
<v Speaker 1>what's the address? Will say no. But but the all

0:32:40.160 --> 0:32:44.320
<v Speaker 1>the people I would imagine is um, you know, it's

0:32:44.360 --> 0:32:46.680
<v Speaker 1>hard to understand for a lot of people that haven't raced,

0:32:46.720 --> 0:32:49.520
<v Speaker 1>But there's like a million engineers that worked just for Ford,

0:32:49.960 --> 0:32:51.640
<v Speaker 1>and then there's a ton of people that work just

0:32:51.680 --> 0:32:53.280
<v Speaker 1>for the Wood Brothers, and a ton of people that

0:32:53.320 --> 0:32:55.320
<v Speaker 1>work at Penske, and so I had like three new

0:32:55.760 --> 0:32:59.200
<v Speaker 1>companies that yeah, and so I spell before you even

0:32:59.200 --> 0:33:02.200
<v Speaker 1>got hid in the wheel, before I got anything behind

0:33:02.200 --> 0:33:06.200
<v Speaker 1>the wheel. And then this offseason NASCAR went to our

0:33:06.600 --> 0:33:10.960
<v Speaker 1>next gen car. So it's an updated car with a

0:33:11.040 --> 0:33:15.760
<v Speaker 1>new a new transmission, a new whole new chassis, whole

0:33:15.760 --> 0:33:19.320
<v Speaker 1>new engine package, whole new arrow package. Everything's new on

0:33:19.360 --> 0:33:22.360
<v Speaker 1>this car. The only thing that you could change was

0:33:22.680 --> 0:33:24.160
<v Speaker 1>that you could bring from the old car to the

0:33:24.200 --> 0:33:27.400
<v Speaker 1>new car was the seat and the steering wheel. Everything

0:33:27.400 --> 0:33:31.880
<v Speaker 1>else was new components. So learning that car and then

0:33:32.000 --> 0:33:35.000
<v Speaker 1>learning how to drive that car. We had some tests

0:33:35.000 --> 0:33:37.800
<v Speaker 1>over the offseason. Like I talked about, NASCAR had banded well,

0:33:37.840 --> 0:33:40.920
<v Speaker 1>since this is the first year of that, we got testing.

0:33:41.200 --> 0:33:44.800
<v Speaker 1>So it's traveling all over testing this car. Uh, and

0:33:44.840 --> 0:33:48.880
<v Speaker 1>then we just traveling all over different different racetracks so

0:33:48.920 --> 0:33:53.400
<v Speaker 1>you can start it. So so NASCAR, since it's the

0:33:53.400 --> 0:33:56.560
<v Speaker 1>new car, NASCAR allowed the teams to do it with

0:33:56.680 --> 0:34:02.200
<v Speaker 1>their They were there watching with their superission. So we

0:34:02.200 --> 0:34:06.000
<v Speaker 1>were in Charlotte, Phoenix, Daytona, all kinds of different tracks

0:34:06.120 --> 0:34:09.560
<v Speaker 1>trying to learn how this car was gonna raise what

0:34:09.640 --> 0:34:13.759
<v Speaker 1>you got. They fly out there and test them on commercial, private, uh,

0:34:13.920 --> 0:34:18.000
<v Speaker 1>commercial for a few of them, private on team Pency

0:34:18.120 --> 0:34:25.279
<v Speaker 1>playing first. Yeah. Just a fan just listening like you're like,

0:34:25.320 --> 0:34:27.040
<v Speaker 1>oh man, I get to draw a car like private

0:34:27.120 --> 0:34:33.040
<v Speaker 1>commercial first coach. Yeah yeah, no, yes, I flew a

0:34:33.080 --> 0:34:36.400
<v Speaker 1>commercial quite a bit. So okay, question here's the veteran

0:34:36.400 --> 0:34:40.600
<v Speaker 1>in me, right, yeah, so do you have UM when

0:34:40.640 --> 0:34:45.239
<v Speaker 1>you fly? Do you use your frequent fire mills? What

0:34:45.320 --> 0:34:46.960
<v Speaker 1>about when you stay at the hotels? Do you get

0:34:46.960 --> 0:34:50.399
<v Speaker 1>to pick the hotels? So so it's all booked through

0:34:50.440 --> 0:34:55.080
<v Speaker 1>the team, So can you tell the team what you prefer? No,

0:34:55.400 --> 0:34:57.920
<v Speaker 1>who's the big name in your on the on the

0:34:57.960 --> 0:35:00.640
<v Speaker 1>team on the like on the Wood Brothers are in

0:35:00.680 --> 0:35:03.839
<v Speaker 1>the whole Lion Steel because we've as far as like

0:35:03.880 --> 0:35:08.240
<v Speaker 1>the I got you, I'm sorry. So okay, Wood brothers.

0:35:08.400 --> 0:35:10.680
<v Speaker 1>So Wood brothers. It's Lynn and Eddie Wood are the

0:35:10.719 --> 0:35:13.560
<v Speaker 1>two guys in Leonard Wood? Who's I'm talking about the racers?

0:35:13.640 --> 0:35:16.120
<v Speaker 1>Like in your group? Oh, I'm the only driving? So

0:35:16.200 --> 0:35:21.759
<v Speaker 1>who who? Who? Who designates the hotels in not me?

0:35:22.480 --> 0:35:27.200
<v Speaker 1>Have you? Have you ever? I haven't asked no talent? Well, man, yeah,

0:35:27.400 --> 0:35:29.759
<v Speaker 1>you guys needed Yeah, talk to him. I'm not saying

0:35:29.800 --> 0:35:32.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm stay in great hotels. By the way, what do

0:35:32.520 --> 0:35:34.320
<v Speaker 1>you consider a great hotel? Give me a go on?

0:35:41.160 --> 0:35:47.280
<v Speaker 1>That's great to me, man, I mean, yeah, we stayed

0:35:47.320 --> 0:35:50.279
<v Speaker 1>in terrible. Yeah. The nicest one I stayed in was

0:35:50.360 --> 0:35:54.000
<v Speaker 1>the Venetian in Vegas. That was pretty sweet. That's nice. Okay,

0:35:54.040 --> 0:35:56.160
<v Speaker 1>that was pretty nice. Well, I was just gonna say, man,

0:35:56.200 --> 0:36:00.359
<v Speaker 1>make sure you're getting your get your memberships rewards. That's

0:36:00.360 --> 0:36:03.719
<v Speaker 1>a lot because at some point, oh, this is gonna

0:36:03.760 --> 0:36:06.680
<v Speaker 1>go away, young man. And so right now I'm knocking

0:36:06.800 --> 0:36:12.319
<v Speaker 1>on lifetime platinum with a marry with a Marriott. What

0:36:12.480 --> 0:36:15.080
<v Speaker 1>is what's you gotta stay there a couple more times

0:36:15.080 --> 0:36:17.840
<v Speaker 1>and you've got lifetime platinum. Well, because so I've I

0:36:17.920 --> 0:36:19.839
<v Speaker 1>have stayed, I still got to talk to them too,

0:36:19.880 --> 0:36:24.600
<v Speaker 1>because Marryott did not award on my thing. It says

0:36:24.760 --> 0:36:27.279
<v Speaker 1>um eight days, but I went and physically counting my

0:36:27.400 --> 0:36:31.239
<v Speaker 1>state eleven days in the Marriott day. I gotta get

0:36:31.280 --> 0:36:32.680
<v Speaker 1>your days. You gotta get you do. You want to

0:36:32.680 --> 0:36:35.560
<v Speaker 1>know why? Why is that? Because at some point when

0:36:35.560 --> 0:36:38.560
<v Speaker 1>it all shuts down and I'm no longer Steve Smith,

0:36:38.640 --> 0:36:42.040
<v Speaker 1>the media guy, I gotta pay for my own stuff.

0:36:43.560 --> 0:36:45.360
<v Speaker 1>But when I pay for my own stuff, I'll be

0:36:45.560 --> 0:36:49.200
<v Speaker 1>lifetime this so I get it out of sea, getting

0:36:49.200 --> 0:36:57.560
<v Speaker 1>free life lessons and heart rate rate and so I've

0:36:57.560 --> 0:37:03.879
<v Speaker 1>been fifteen years as silver or higher. Okay, so right

0:37:03.880 --> 0:37:07.279
<v Speaker 1>now my lifetime status is as silver. I'm on my

0:37:07.360 --> 0:37:11.360
<v Speaker 1>way to go to elite slash platinum. The way things

0:37:11.360 --> 0:37:14.400
<v Speaker 1>are going back, I'll be right there, so I should.

0:37:14.520 --> 0:37:19.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm on pace with Marriott, American and Delta to have

0:37:19.200 --> 0:37:22.200
<v Speaker 1>a pretty good like. I won't be like there, but

0:37:22.400 --> 0:37:26.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, yeah there. Yeah. Did they give you wings

0:37:26.719 --> 0:37:28.719
<v Speaker 1>when you get on the plane, the pilot or anything. Yeah?

0:37:28.800 --> 0:37:33.440
<v Speaker 1>They give me a little pilot hat with a glass

0:37:33.480 --> 0:37:39.480
<v Speaker 1>of milk in my hand. Yeah, Harrison, you cannot sit

0:37:39.560 --> 0:37:46.359
<v Speaker 1>on the pilot's lap, not just stop. Can you flyplane?

0:37:46.640 --> 0:37:49.279
<v Speaker 1>Can I flyplane? I think you could. So. Actually, in

0:37:49.400 --> 0:37:53.839
<v Speaker 1>Daytona this year, we I flew with the Thunderbirds. Did

0:37:53.880 --> 0:37:55.759
<v Speaker 1>you fly to the plane? I flew the plane. I

0:37:55.760 --> 0:38:02.120
<v Speaker 1>did a loop? Yeah what aileron role? What? What aileron role? OK?

0:38:02.800 --> 0:38:04.839
<v Speaker 1>So that's the two flaps on the way. I learned

0:38:04.880 --> 0:38:07.480
<v Speaker 1>this all from the guy that was fighting the plane.

0:38:07.520 --> 0:38:12.600
<v Speaker 1>I say, no, nothing about good. Let's getting down to

0:38:12.640 --> 0:38:17.520
<v Speaker 1>do good. Hey Gerard, why did you get that T shirt?

0:38:17.600 --> 0:38:19.960
<v Speaker 1>You mean this thing? Oh? Yes, I got it from

0:38:20.000 --> 0:38:23.480
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0:38:23.680 --> 0:38:25.520
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0:38:25.560 --> 0:38:27.680
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, you can go on, buy you a T shirt,

0:38:27.760 --> 0:38:31.480
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0:38:31.480 --> 0:38:34.000
<v Speaker 1>some of the tips that your dad has has taught us?

0:38:34.440 --> 0:38:39.320
<v Speaker 1>I think that's worth that's worth trying. Is there something

0:38:39.320 --> 0:38:43.279
<v Speaker 1>like with all that all that knowledges has is no

0:38:43.440 --> 0:38:46.600
<v Speaker 1>way some of the things that he's probably told you

0:38:46.640 --> 0:38:48.879
<v Speaker 1>be like, man, I can't well a lot of it.

0:38:48.880 --> 0:38:51.879
<v Speaker 1>It's all different for every driver, right, And so he's

0:38:51.920 --> 0:38:54.320
<v Speaker 1>helped me a ton, Hey, this is how to attack

0:38:54.400 --> 0:38:56.160
<v Speaker 1>this and that as a driver. But I think the

0:38:56.160 --> 0:38:59.880
<v Speaker 1>biggest thing he's helped me add out with is the

0:39:00.080 --> 0:39:02.839
<v Speaker 1>mental side of the sport. And and there's a lot

0:39:02.880 --> 0:39:07.480
<v Speaker 1>of opportunities to do things, um that could have short

0:39:07.640 --> 0:39:12.360
<v Speaker 1>term help you, but maybe long term hurt you, right, Um.

0:39:12.400 --> 0:39:14.080
<v Speaker 1>And so I think my dad has always kind of

0:39:14.080 --> 0:39:18.120
<v Speaker 1>helped me with like you know, say, yeah, so say

0:39:18.160 --> 0:39:21.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna say I'm racing this guy for third and

0:39:21.160 --> 0:39:24.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna hit him out of the way and then

0:39:25.040 --> 0:39:27.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna pass him and I'm gonna get third place.

0:39:27.640 --> 0:39:30.319
<v Speaker 1>But then the next time, maybe I'm leading and he's

0:39:30.360 --> 0:39:35.319
<v Speaker 1>in second, what is he gonna do to me? But

0:39:35.440 --> 0:39:38.239
<v Speaker 1>you should ram the body somebody anyway to get first

0:39:38.280 --> 0:39:40.040
<v Speaker 1>because you're right there to be able to get first.

0:39:40.080 --> 0:39:42.759
<v Speaker 1>So so that's what I mean, is it? Is it?

0:39:43.080 --> 0:39:46.760
<v Speaker 1>There's a there's a total that you're right. It's true,

0:39:46.800 --> 0:39:48.960
<v Speaker 1>like there's there's a line where it's like, hey, I

0:39:49.040 --> 0:39:52.560
<v Speaker 1>just gotta win, right, But there's also a line of

0:39:52.800 --> 0:39:56.399
<v Speaker 1>knowing that there's you have to race against the same

0:39:56.440 --> 0:40:01.360
<v Speaker 1>guys every week, Yes, exactly. And so when you're first

0:40:01.400 --> 0:40:04.320
<v Speaker 1>starting out, you have to earn respect to those guys.

0:40:04.320 --> 0:40:06.440
<v Speaker 1>But you have to do it. You can't do it

0:40:06.440 --> 0:40:09.920
<v Speaker 1>by being a pushover, right because if if they're going

0:40:09.960 --> 0:40:12.120
<v Speaker 1>to see blood in the water when they see your car,

0:40:12.320 --> 0:40:14.880
<v Speaker 1>so I think recently so if they see blood, what

0:40:15.000 --> 0:40:18.120
<v Speaker 1>is blood in the water? Actually mean this guy, if

0:40:18.200 --> 0:40:21.760
<v Speaker 1>I get you know, he's easily intimidated. If I get

0:40:22.160 --> 0:40:23.600
<v Speaker 1>bumped out of the way, he's gonna let me go.

0:40:23.680 --> 0:40:26.680
<v Speaker 1>There's no repercussion for that stuff like that, where there's

0:40:26.719 --> 0:40:29.920
<v Speaker 1>guys that you know will be taking advantage of that,

0:40:30.040 --> 0:40:31.520
<v Speaker 1>And as a rookie, you're like, oh, I don't want

0:40:31.520 --> 0:40:35.600
<v Speaker 1>to hurt anybody's feelings, but you kind of have to to.

0:40:36.080 --> 0:40:40.040
<v Speaker 1>You're going to It's it's competition, right, It's you have

0:40:40.120 --> 0:40:42.440
<v Speaker 1>to go and try and take it from these guys.

0:40:42.520 --> 0:40:45.640
<v Speaker 1>So recently it's been that, right, Hey, just go attack

0:40:45.719 --> 0:40:50.640
<v Speaker 1>these guys like it's nobody that anybody you normally would um.

0:40:50.680 --> 0:40:53.239
<v Speaker 1>But always doing it to where when you lay your

0:40:53.280 --> 0:40:54.719
<v Speaker 1>head down at night you feel like you did the

0:40:54.800 --> 0:40:57.080
<v Speaker 1>right thing. I think that's been the biggest thing for

0:40:57.120 --> 0:41:00.759
<v Speaker 1>me and and I feel like I've kind of ran

0:41:00.880 --> 0:41:03.160
<v Speaker 1>my whole racing career like that. And I don't really

0:41:03.160 --> 0:41:05.560
<v Speaker 1>have many things I regret. Obviously made mistakes, but I

0:41:05.560 --> 0:41:08.319
<v Speaker 1>don't have any decisions I regret. Have you ever. Have

0:41:08.480 --> 0:41:10.520
<v Speaker 1>you ever laid your head on a pillow at night?

0:41:12.200 --> 0:41:16.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm not able to sleep well for sure. What was that? Uh?

0:41:17.040 --> 0:41:19.560
<v Speaker 1>You know a lot of times it's easy. It's like,

0:41:19.719 --> 0:41:21.680
<v Speaker 1>oh I just made a mistake and this gonna bother

0:41:21.760 --> 0:41:26.399
<v Speaker 1>me in the race, or say you did kind of

0:41:26.840 --> 0:41:31.239
<v Speaker 1>just wreck somebody. Uh, sometimes it doesn't sit right. I've

0:41:31.320 --> 0:41:35.040
<v Speaker 1>gotten into fights on pit road. Like I've heard about

0:41:35.080 --> 0:41:38.319
<v Speaker 1>the fight. Oh no, this isn't a push fight. We

0:41:38.320 --> 0:41:46.680
<v Speaker 1>were swinging and stuff did so, so here's so, here's

0:41:46.680 --> 0:41:48.240
<v Speaker 1>what happened. We It was a kind of the worst.

0:41:48.480 --> 0:41:50.440
<v Speaker 1>It was. Hey, at least we threw something at each other.

0:41:50.800 --> 0:41:52.640
<v Speaker 1>Now I'm friends with the guy, but at least we

0:41:52.680 --> 0:41:54.880
<v Speaker 1>threw stuff with each other and we both missed. So

0:41:55.160 --> 0:41:59.279
<v Speaker 1>you so you threw it through what like did you

0:41:59.320 --> 0:42:02.919
<v Speaker 1>throw like that? Did you throw it knowing you didn't

0:42:02.920 --> 0:42:05.720
<v Speaker 1>want to connect? Or no? You like I gotta do something?

0:42:05.840 --> 0:42:08.319
<v Speaker 1>So so so like was it the old school? Like

0:42:08.360 --> 0:42:12.160
<v Speaker 1>you know you're going to circle shoulder to shoulder? Yeah,

0:42:12.280 --> 0:42:17.600
<v Speaker 1>like Manama, Yeah, so you know it started like little

0:42:17.600 --> 0:42:19.840
<v Speaker 1>Harrison really don't want to fight Steve right now, he

0:42:19.880 --> 0:42:22.200
<v Speaker 1>really don't want you. I wouldn't have walked up there.

0:42:22.480 --> 0:42:26.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying, like you or they or they push

0:42:26.800 --> 0:42:30.799
<v Speaker 1>like like like, so so this I'll tell you the

0:42:30.840 --> 0:42:34.799
<v Speaker 1>whole story, tell me the whole I gotta push. It

0:42:34.880 --> 0:42:38.280
<v Speaker 1>was too so this is kind of a pushy story.

0:42:38.480 --> 0:42:40.600
<v Speaker 1>So two weekends in a row, we got together, crash.

0:42:40.719 --> 0:42:43.399
<v Speaker 1>I was piste off. I went over. He was mad,

0:42:43.480 --> 0:42:46.440
<v Speaker 1>he took his crust. Yeah, so I went up to

0:42:46.520 --> 0:42:50.320
<v Speaker 1>his car. Uh guys know, Gregson is his name, friends

0:42:50.320 --> 0:42:54.239
<v Speaker 1>with him now, so, uh, you know I was mad.

0:42:54.280 --> 0:42:58.720
<v Speaker 1>So I was talking to him. So you you were yelling, cursing, cursing, talking,

0:42:58.760 --> 0:43:01.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, you get mad and big words. That's right,

0:43:01.200 --> 0:43:05.680
<v Speaker 1>as twelve year old me, arm Did your mom here

0:43:05.719 --> 0:43:12.319
<v Speaker 1>you talking like that? No, she probably would have said

0:43:12.320 --> 0:43:15.399
<v Speaker 1>the same thing though if you knew her, she's pretty feisty. Yeah.

0:43:15.480 --> 0:43:18.400
<v Speaker 1>So so your mom's got a potty mouth. No, not,

0:43:19.000 --> 0:43:23.319
<v Speaker 1>because she's just she gets angry about racing. So so

0:43:23.480 --> 0:43:26.080
<v Speaker 1>we start talking back and forth. This is not a

0:43:26.080 --> 0:43:28.759
<v Speaker 1>good fight. We start talking back and so we're like

0:43:28.880 --> 0:43:31.520
<v Speaker 1>chirping at each other, right, and then I'm like he's like,

0:43:31.600 --> 0:43:33.359
<v Speaker 1>all right, we'll just do something about it. I'm like, hey, man,

0:43:33.400 --> 0:43:36.400
<v Speaker 1>get out of here, shove bad deal. And then he

0:43:36.520 --> 0:43:39.520
<v Speaker 1>swung at me. Did you duck? Went around my head

0:43:39.640 --> 0:43:43.200
<v Speaker 1>and you got mm, so you slipped it and then

0:43:43.440 --> 0:43:46.080
<v Speaker 1>went for the takedown. Didn't do it? Oh? We went

0:43:46.120 --> 0:43:50.360
<v Speaker 1>down to the ground. You left this straight tackle form?

0:43:50.680 --> 0:43:53.640
<v Speaker 1>Really yeah, but it didn't work out because my head

0:43:54.200 --> 0:43:58.279
<v Speaker 1>underneath his arm not facing the concrete the whole deal.

0:43:58.719 --> 0:44:01.040
<v Speaker 1>And then we were just like punching each other on

0:44:01.040 --> 0:44:03.160
<v Speaker 1>the ground. Then they pulled apart and punching each other

0:44:03.920 --> 0:44:06.000
<v Speaker 1>like in a rib shot. Yeah, that's how I could reach.

0:44:06.080 --> 0:44:07.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if he was hitting me or not,

0:44:07.480 --> 0:44:11.239
<v Speaker 1>but so that was that was it. And then and

0:44:11.280 --> 0:44:16.040
<v Speaker 1>then I regretted that because I felt like, yes, I

0:44:16.160 --> 0:44:20.200
<v Speaker 1>needed to, I needed to take a stand and say, hey,

0:44:20.239 --> 0:44:22.879
<v Speaker 1>I can't be race like this anymore. But I also

0:44:22.960 --> 0:44:26.279
<v Speaker 1>regretted the way I handled it. Uh. I felt like

0:44:26.320 --> 0:44:30.560
<v Speaker 1>I could have not done a little push that would

0:44:30.560 --> 0:44:35.520
<v Speaker 1>have instigated a fight and probably got the same point across.

0:44:36.719 --> 0:44:39.640
<v Speaker 1>So I regretted that. And then that was something that

0:44:40.440 --> 0:44:43.200
<v Speaker 1>it didn't sit right. I wasn't upset, like, oh, I

0:44:43.239 --> 0:44:45.719
<v Speaker 1>didn't mean to fight with this. It wouldn't. It wasn't.

0:44:45.760 --> 0:44:48.200
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't quiet in a senior spirit. Right. It didn't

0:44:48.200 --> 0:44:50.520
<v Speaker 1>feel like it was something I would have done. So

0:44:50.680 --> 0:44:52.960
<v Speaker 1>I regretted that that had That was hard to sleep

0:44:53.000 --> 0:44:56.440
<v Speaker 1>on for a little bit m them on Instagram. So

0:44:56.560 --> 0:45:00.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. I wasn't sorry for what I said or

0:45:00.200 --> 0:45:02.320
<v Speaker 1>what I did. I just felt like I handled it poorly.

0:45:02.960 --> 0:45:07.719
<v Speaker 1>And uh and uh yeah. Now every buddys we hang out. Yeah,

0:45:07.760 --> 0:45:13.000
<v Speaker 1>you know it's a competition and tempest flair. And is

0:45:13.040 --> 0:45:15.759
<v Speaker 1>it fair to say that most racers are from now

0:45:15.880 --> 0:45:18.360
<v Speaker 1>from Charlotte or quite a bit of them or have

0:45:18.400 --> 0:45:20.319
<v Speaker 1>to move to Charlotte. Yeah, most of them live here

0:45:20.360 --> 0:45:22.319
<v Speaker 1>for sure. Almost all of them live here. Now are

0:45:22.360 --> 0:45:24.960
<v Speaker 1>there any racers? I mean, yeah, well you in Virginia.

0:45:25.480 --> 0:45:31.359
<v Speaker 1>Who where's a Georgia? Right? We heard an interesting story

0:45:31.400 --> 0:45:33.840
<v Speaker 1>and we had Jeff Gordon being from California. Yeah, and

0:45:33.880 --> 0:45:36.680
<v Speaker 1>he actually had to come south, you know, did in

0:45:37.200 --> 0:45:39.680
<v Speaker 1>Indiana first and then you know, I had to hook

0:45:39.760 --> 0:45:42.160
<v Speaker 1>up with Mr Hendrick come here to Charlotte. So that's

0:45:42.200 --> 0:45:44.680
<v Speaker 1>a pretty unique story. Yeah. Yeah, he came from a

0:45:44.680 --> 0:45:47.959
<v Speaker 1>completely different path than most guys did at that time.

0:45:48.080 --> 0:45:52.000
<v Speaker 1>It's pretty neat. How now, there's a lot of talent

0:45:52.080 --> 0:45:55.640
<v Speaker 1>that comes from different racing disciplines, the dirt racing, short

0:45:55.680 --> 0:45:57.719
<v Speaker 1>track racing, what about the IE racing? Were you ever

0:45:57.760 --> 0:46:00.840
<v Speaker 1>in so I have, I have a ulator. I was

0:46:00.960 --> 0:46:05.080
<v Speaker 1>never into it until after I started racing. So like

0:46:05.160 --> 0:46:09.160
<v Speaker 1>William never was racing until after he was already a

0:46:09.200 --> 0:46:12.920
<v Speaker 1>similar not necessarily true. He actually was racing. He just

0:46:12.960 --> 0:46:16.600
<v Speaker 1>didn't get a lot of He's kind of lived up

0:46:16.640 --> 0:46:18.239
<v Speaker 1>to him. But he was racing a little bit. Oh

0:46:18.360 --> 0:46:20.279
<v Speaker 1>was he? I thought he had just started on the

0:46:20.280 --> 0:46:26.239
<v Speaker 1>computer and then went to let's let the podcasts. But

0:46:26.320 --> 0:46:30.960
<v Speaker 1>also I talked to Dale, who told me to okay, yes,

0:46:31.200 --> 0:46:33.520
<v Speaker 1>Dale knows more than well. He was just saying that

0:46:33.760 --> 0:46:39.799
<v Speaker 1>he it isn't he wasn't just learned how to race

0:46:40.360 --> 0:46:41.880
<v Speaker 1>and then went to the big league and went to

0:46:41.920 --> 0:46:44.880
<v Speaker 1>the big league. He he was going to He was

0:46:44.920 --> 0:46:49.160
<v Speaker 1>doing the NASCAR on a video game and I and

0:46:49.320 --> 0:46:52.960
<v Speaker 1>the simulator. However, that led to is this for real?

0:46:53.080 --> 0:46:55.960
<v Speaker 1>Can he really race? Or is he just really good

0:46:56.040 --> 0:46:58.799
<v Speaker 1>on the simulator? So at some point you gotta see

0:46:59.280 --> 0:47:03.200
<v Speaker 1>it is a similar later numbers accurate, Yeah, to what

0:47:03.280 --> 0:47:06.440
<v Speaker 1>he's doing, And he did okay job racing. And I

0:47:06.440 --> 0:47:08.239
<v Speaker 1>think they went to a simulator, and I think the

0:47:08.239 --> 0:47:11.960
<v Speaker 1>simulator enhanced it to where the the next time he

0:47:12.000 --> 0:47:14.440
<v Speaker 1>was in there he was able to apply. So it

0:47:14.520 --> 0:47:18.560
<v Speaker 1>was pretty cool. It was pretty cool story to hear um,

0:47:19.200 --> 0:47:23.160
<v Speaker 1>but to just say that he went from simulator all

0:47:23.200 --> 0:47:26.080
<v Speaker 1>the way to write like so he so I was

0:47:26.280 --> 0:47:29.080
<v Speaker 1>I was racing when I said that, man, I had

0:47:29.160 --> 0:47:32.480
<v Speaker 1>raced for in lower levels. Well, a lot of fans

0:47:32.640 --> 0:47:35.080
<v Speaker 1>think you just go to the top. Yeah, a lot

0:47:35.120 --> 0:47:37.279
<v Speaker 1>of fans think that, just like they think that he

0:47:37.360 --> 0:47:40.760
<v Speaker 1>was he never raced other than a simulator and then

0:47:40.800 --> 0:47:43.680
<v Speaker 1>he went the cup Like yeah, so that's a great story,

0:47:43.680 --> 0:47:47.759
<v Speaker 1>but that's little bit you're leaving out a stepper two. Yeah.

0:47:47.960 --> 0:47:51.000
<v Speaker 1>And and I raced with him when he was first

0:47:51.000 --> 0:47:54.480
<v Speaker 1>getting into like real stock car racing, and uh, he

0:47:54.520 --> 0:47:56.839
<v Speaker 1>was really fast. He did a great job. I lost

0:47:56.880 --> 0:47:59.919
<v Speaker 1>to him a couple of times and oh for sure,

0:48:00.080 --> 0:48:03.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's all right, and and uh and yeah, so

0:48:03.200 --> 0:48:06.239
<v Speaker 1>but I had I had raced before, and so my

0:48:06.480 --> 0:48:08.640
<v Speaker 1>when I did it, it was kind of just I

0:48:08.680 --> 0:48:11.160
<v Speaker 1>didn't do it as like this is work. I did

0:48:11.160 --> 0:48:13.040
<v Speaker 1>it as fun, like I'm gonna get all my buddies

0:48:13.040 --> 0:48:16.360
<v Speaker 1>and we're gonna go race at whatever racetrack with whatever

0:48:16.400 --> 0:48:19.440
<v Speaker 1>car we want to, We're gonna have fun. And and

0:48:19.440 --> 0:48:21.480
<v Speaker 1>I think when he started doing it he used it

0:48:21.520 --> 0:48:25.160
<v Speaker 1>as it was his gateway into racing, and then it

0:48:25.160 --> 0:48:28.399
<v Speaker 1>turned into a Legend car, which is a small car

0:48:28.480 --> 0:48:30.480
<v Speaker 1>that he started, and then to late model, then the

0:48:30.560 --> 0:48:33.319
<v Speaker 1>Cannon and then the trucks and the Xfinity. So there's

0:48:33.320 --> 0:48:36.120
<v Speaker 1>obviously a ton of steps after the simulator. But I

0:48:36.120 --> 0:48:38.759
<v Speaker 1>think I have one and I use it, but it's

0:48:38.800 --> 0:48:40.920
<v Speaker 1>more and I use it now as a tool. But

0:48:40.920 --> 0:48:42.560
<v Speaker 1>when I first got it, it it was like, Hey, this

0:48:42.600 --> 0:48:44.160
<v Speaker 1>is fun. I can go race on the internet with

0:48:44.200 --> 0:48:46.799
<v Speaker 1>my friends. And it wasn't. I didn't use it like

0:48:46.840 --> 0:48:49.799
<v Speaker 1>he did. I don't think so do you do you

0:48:49.840 --> 0:48:55.760
<v Speaker 1>think that utilizing the simulator, um, obviously on a rainy

0:48:55.840 --> 0:48:58.400
<v Speaker 1>day now here, and that that's kind of really the

0:48:58.440 --> 0:49:05.000
<v Speaker 1>only way you can stay sharp. Yeah, um in racing. Yeah,

0:49:05.000 --> 0:49:08.320
<v Speaker 1>it's it's crazy. It's crazy when you think about it,

0:49:08.760 --> 0:49:12.040
<v Speaker 1>because almost every other sport you can go practice it

0:49:12.239 --> 0:49:15.200
<v Speaker 1>somewhere and do something, But to never be able to

0:49:15.239 --> 0:49:19.200
<v Speaker 1>get behind a realistic car, it's against the rules. Yeah,

0:49:19.239 --> 0:49:23.200
<v Speaker 1>it's it's super tough. You know, you get now. You

0:49:23.239 --> 0:49:25.000
<v Speaker 1>used to get a lot more practice than you do now.

0:49:25.080 --> 0:49:28.560
<v Speaker 1>To now you get the way it works. There's twenty

0:49:28.600 --> 0:49:31.480
<v Speaker 1>minutes of practice. You go run for twenty minutes, you

0:49:31.600 --> 0:49:34.920
<v Speaker 1>come in, make a change, qualify which is who you're

0:49:34.920 --> 0:49:39.279
<v Speaker 1>talking about? Real racing or simulating real racing? Yeah, it's

0:49:39.480 --> 0:49:43.719
<v Speaker 1>it's confused, back and forth, get lost. I've been in

0:49:43.760 --> 0:49:45.719
<v Speaker 1>a simulator so long that you start driving your car

0:49:45.760 --> 0:49:47.319
<v Speaker 1>home and you're like, is this real or not? Like

0:49:47.360 --> 0:49:54.480
<v Speaker 1>what am I doing? But no? But uh yeah, but yeah,

0:49:54.600 --> 0:49:57.240
<v Speaker 1>So that you have twenty minutes, and if you spend

0:49:57.239 --> 0:50:01.240
<v Speaker 1>the first five minutes of the twenty minutes off the pace,

0:50:01.960 --> 0:50:04.840
<v Speaker 1>well the car doesn't react the same way as you

0:50:04.880 --> 0:50:07.440
<v Speaker 1>do when you drive it at its limit, And so

0:50:07.520 --> 0:50:12.680
<v Speaker 1>it's really hard to go out there, no practice, no

0:50:13.160 --> 0:50:18.200
<v Speaker 1>real world experience, especially now with this new car, and

0:50:18.239 --> 0:50:20.640
<v Speaker 1>go on the first lap and go drive it as

0:50:20.640 --> 0:50:22.759
<v Speaker 1>hard as you can and be aggressive, knowing that you

0:50:22.840 --> 0:50:25.440
<v Speaker 1>might crash and the backup car is not as fast,

0:50:26.080 --> 0:50:29.000
<v Speaker 1>and so that's a really hard challenge. How many cars

0:50:29.040 --> 0:50:36.000
<v Speaker 1>do you, guys, uh transport for each particular driver. So

0:50:36.000 --> 0:50:38.480
<v Speaker 1>so with the new car, for a while it was

0:50:38.920 --> 0:50:41.400
<v Speaker 1>there was four guys in our team and there was

0:50:41.440 --> 0:50:44.319
<v Speaker 1>two cars. So say all four of us crashing practice.

0:50:45.000 --> 0:50:48.000
<v Speaker 1>Who's gonna have what car, who's gonna race, who's gonna not? Well,

0:50:48.000 --> 0:50:50.000
<v Speaker 1>now it's starting to catch up. The inventory is getting

0:50:50.040 --> 0:50:52.960
<v Speaker 1>better because the new cars getting farther along and we're

0:50:53.000 --> 0:50:56.520
<v Speaker 1>able to build more of them. Uh. But yeah, for

0:50:56.560 --> 0:50:59.439
<v Speaker 1>a while it's pretty sketchy, and and now it's every

0:50:59.520 --> 0:51:03.080
<v Speaker 1>driver has one backup car basically, Um, so you have

0:51:03.200 --> 0:51:05.840
<v Speaker 1>one that needs to use a backup car in the

0:51:05.880 --> 0:51:09.000
<v Speaker 1>middle of a race? No? Yeah, no, so once you

0:51:09.239 --> 0:51:13.879
<v Speaker 1>once you qualify, you're oh, you qualify that vehicle. Yep,

0:51:14.000 --> 0:51:18.759
<v Speaker 1>So you qualify like with your primary cars. Yes, you

0:51:18.840 --> 0:51:22.279
<v Speaker 1>can't go qualify with your primary car and then run

0:51:22.280 --> 0:51:23.920
<v Speaker 1>it back up and let and if you do, you

0:51:24.000 --> 0:51:26.799
<v Speaker 1>have to go to the back and starting last, and

0:51:26.840 --> 0:51:29.200
<v Speaker 1>then once the race starts, if you do it, you can't.

0:51:29.239 --> 0:51:32.359
<v Speaker 1>You can't do it. How difficult it is it to

0:51:32.360 --> 0:51:36.000
<v Speaker 1>to get in top three starting off a racing last?

0:51:36.440 --> 0:51:41.600
<v Speaker 1>Extremely difficult. Why so the farther back in the field

0:51:41.640 --> 0:51:44.120
<v Speaker 1>you get I can tell that by eyesight, But tell

0:51:44.160 --> 0:51:48.520
<v Speaker 1>it tell Layman's terms. Kiss, keep it simple, Steve, Well,

0:51:49.000 --> 0:51:53.800
<v Speaker 1>how like like I understand you got how many racers racers'

0:51:53.880 --> 0:51:59.359
<v Speaker 1>carte d you can bump, at least some of them,

0:51:59.520 --> 0:52:04.520
<v Speaker 1>some of them. Yeah. So so the farther back you get,

0:52:05.760 --> 0:52:09.319
<v Speaker 1>the more turbulent the air is. So the less there

0:52:09.360 --> 0:52:12.759
<v Speaker 1>the air, so you have less down force. Black folks

0:52:12.800 --> 0:52:20.200
<v Speaker 1>getting back all the time. So it's the it's it's

0:52:20.239 --> 0:52:23.480
<v Speaker 1>the worst the farther back you are, because it's it's

0:52:23.680 --> 0:52:27.920
<v Speaker 1>whoever your one their their car has no so every

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<v Speaker 1>car leaves awake. Yes, yeah, the heat. Yes, So the

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<v Speaker 1>the air. If the guy's leading, he has all just

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<v Speaker 1>normal air, clean air, clean airs, the most wonderful thing

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<v Speaker 1>in the world. And then second is probably a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit worse. And then third's a little worse, and it

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<v Speaker 1>forced a little worse, and it feels a little all

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<v Speaker 1>the way back to fort So so why is that

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<v Speaker 1>clean air? Why is that bad air? Bad for your car?

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<v Speaker 1>So the way the cars are shaped, imagine whoever the

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<v Speaker 1>folks in the back just getting crop dust is brutal. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So the way it's the way it the cars are shaped,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a pocket of air that gets left behind, like

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<v Speaker 1>a neutral zone here. Right, So say you have my

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<v Speaker 1>fist is in the wind and this one has less

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<v Speaker 1>wind on it. So when you're going in a straight line.

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<v Speaker 1>That's awesome because there's less drag on your car and

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<v Speaker 1>you can draft up to him Ricky Bobby style, shaking

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<v Speaker 1>bake deal. And then when you get in the corner

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<v Speaker 1>and your grip limited and you're kneading down force, you're

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<v Speaker 1>needing grip, then all that stuff that was helping you

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<v Speaker 1>on the straight away is now hurting you because you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have the same amount of weight pushing down on

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<v Speaker 1>your car, smushing your tires to the racetrack and giving

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<v Speaker 1>you grip. So on the on the straight away you're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is awesome. Then you get to the corner and you're, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>my gosh, this car is really loose or tied or

0:53:45.680 --> 0:53:49.400
<v Speaker 1>whatever because I have no down force. Um and and

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<v Speaker 1>that makes it super hard. And you'll see guys playing

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<v Speaker 1>games with that, like to keep a guy behind you,

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<v Speaker 1>you can look up in your mirror and say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>he's running the second lane. I'm gonna move to the

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<v Speaker 1>second right in front of him, and he's gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>all this dirty air in front of him, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get tight and I'm gonna drive away. And so

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of of mind games you can play

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<v Speaker 1>with that or not my games, just technical games. You

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<v Speaker 1>can play with that to keep guys behind you or

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<v Speaker 1>or try and pass. Should thirty seven, thirties five through

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<v Speaker 1>forty that dirty air? Is that also restricting speed? Um

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<v Speaker 1>you know, or just or just a gravity of force

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<v Speaker 1>pushing you just more or less the force pushing you down.

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<v Speaker 1>It should be best for your top speed to be

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<v Speaker 1>in the very back, but you get to the corner,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't do anything with it. So it almost compounds

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<v Speaker 1>the issue, right, because the one thing you can do

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<v Speaker 1>to keep grip in your car is to modulate your

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<v Speaker 1>speed to take speed out of the entry of the corner. Well,

0:54:52.600 --> 0:54:54.400
<v Speaker 1>when you're in the back, you get all this giant

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<v Speaker 1>run into the corner because you have no friction on

0:54:56.920 --> 0:54:59.000
<v Speaker 1>your car and you drive off in there and you

0:54:59.040 --> 0:55:01.080
<v Speaker 1>can't do anything with it, so you get tied or

0:55:01.120 --> 0:55:06.160
<v Speaker 1>whatever happens. So um, yeah, you end up almost compounding

0:55:06.200 --> 0:55:08.880
<v Speaker 1>issues that way. Um. So yeah, the back is not

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<v Speaker 1>a good place to be. There's guys that are super

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<v Speaker 1>talented at using the air or finding clean air in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of the pack and they can pass guys,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's guys that that don't do it as well. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>And it's definitely a skill you've got to learn. As

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<v Speaker 1>we'll say, is that where the more you do it,

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<v Speaker 1>the more you learn tricks and tips for sure. And

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<v Speaker 1>and it's crazy how every car will handle differently in that.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh So there's a truck series, right, which was the

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<v Speaker 1>first like top three series of NASCAR. That's the first

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<v Speaker 1>step into it. Yeah, so I started. That was my first.

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<v Speaker 1>That's like the first time that you're like, car have

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<v Speaker 1>you not driven in like a stock car in general?

0:55:53.160 --> 0:55:56.360
<v Speaker 1>Over your over your young twenty one years of life?

0:55:56.400 --> 0:55:58.760
<v Speaker 1>What car have you not driven? I've driven the truck,

0:55:59.520 --> 0:56:04.920
<v Speaker 1>I've driven stock car, truck, stock car, go kart, moped.

0:56:05.200 --> 0:56:10.200
<v Speaker 1>I've driven a TV, a TV four wheeler, four wheeler, scooter,

0:56:10.760 --> 0:56:15.200
<v Speaker 1>elect your scooter or razor scooter both burst. The razor

0:56:15.239 --> 0:56:17.560
<v Speaker 1>scooters are rough on your shins, you know what I mean,

0:56:17.719 --> 0:56:19.560
<v Speaker 1>Like when you try and whip them around here, think

0:56:19.680 --> 0:56:21.600
<v Speaker 1>you're getting fancy. We're not talking about do you think

0:56:21.600 --> 0:56:25.680
<v Speaker 1>this brothers driving razor skins or they weren't They weren't

0:56:25.680 --> 0:56:27.960
<v Speaker 1>out When I was younger, I had a duke. Duke's

0:56:27.960 --> 0:56:31.680
<v Speaker 1>a hazard, uh big wheel that's bad at Big Will

0:56:31.880 --> 0:56:38.799
<v Speaker 1>and the car they had there no Daisy was ever

0:56:38.840 --> 0:56:45.400
<v Speaker 1>in the hood though, but there's some pressure on you

0:56:45.440 --> 0:56:48.479
<v Speaker 1>and you don't know this as we start to wind

0:56:48.520 --> 0:56:51.040
<v Speaker 1>this thing down. So we had William Byron on. Yeah,

0:56:51.320 --> 0:56:54.319
<v Speaker 1>very next race he won, Oh boy, he had he

0:56:54.360 --> 0:56:57.200
<v Speaker 1>want a cop race. The next race, very next we

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<v Speaker 1>had Chase. We had Chase Elliott on and the week

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<v Speaker 1>after was the last race of the championship. And what

0:57:05.239 --> 0:57:09.040
<v Speaker 1>happened talk about it. So now we're I'm just saying.

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<v Speaker 1>And when we were in California, William Byron's people did

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<v Speaker 1>they come down, absolutely came down and say hello, we're

0:57:18.640 --> 0:57:19.960
<v Speaker 1>all standing in the saying I won't tell you at

0:57:20.000 --> 0:57:22.439
<v Speaker 1>this j W aren't you Ah? So as I past

0:57:22.480 --> 0:57:24.840
<v Speaker 1>your curfew though, it's like, yeah, I was probably sleepy.

0:57:25.680 --> 0:57:31.800
<v Speaker 1>So folks came down, dapped him up, said hello, Chase.

0:57:33.040 --> 0:57:35.600
<v Speaker 1>He didn't come down, and then what happened got hit

0:57:35.680 --> 0:57:38.880
<v Speaker 1>in the wall. You say, So it's saying we have

0:57:38.960 --> 0:57:42.760
<v Speaker 1>an impact on this. I'm saying also, and I know, yeah,

0:57:42.760 --> 0:57:45.040
<v Speaker 1>I got a reputation to hold not the same team.

0:57:45.040 --> 0:57:47.400
<v Speaker 1>So earlier that day, who whose team we're talking to

0:57:47.560 --> 0:57:52.160
<v Speaker 1>that the morning Joey Logano who won that race boom talk, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll try my hardest. That's you know that. I know

0:57:54.200 --> 0:57:56.880
<v Speaker 1>you'll try your hard There's nothing that says you won't

0:57:56.880 --> 0:57:59.280
<v Speaker 1>try your hardest, is what we've learned from this podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>There you have it, man, Well we really appreciate. Hopefully

0:58:03.840 --> 0:58:06.080
<v Speaker 1>I didn't geek you out, but I like I like

0:58:06.160 --> 0:58:09.960
<v Speaker 1>to learn very quick. Yeah, I love I love telling

0:58:10.000 --> 0:58:12.040
<v Speaker 1>people about it. Yeah, that's what I love. So it's

0:58:12.080 --> 0:58:15.120
<v Speaker 1>easy for me to talk about it. That's for sure.

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