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Speaker 1: Welcome in.

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Speaker 2: We'll driving the Great Episode three twenty six, after another

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Speaker 2: thrilling NBA playoff game, Golden State Warriors escape and take

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Speaker 2: firm and full control of the series. If at some

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Speaker 2: point Jalen Green shows up to the series other than

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Speaker 2: Game two, maybe we'd have one, but we don't. That, however,

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Speaker 2: is not the story of the game. The story of

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Speaker 2: the game is Draymond Green. We will get to him momentarily.

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Speaker 2: There is a lot to do on today's show. I

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Speaker 2: I want to address Saquon's tweet because I think, well,

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Speaker 2: I just want to address it, and it's probably not

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Speaker 2: what you think I'm gonna say, but I want to

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Speaker 2: discuss that. Also, we did an emergency pod yesterday. We

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Speaker 2: have done on the pod. We haven't done anything related

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Speaker 2: to Shador's slide in the draft, which is it really?

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Speaker 2: Is that really a common tarry about Shador or is

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Speaker 2: that a commentary about the media. Is it a meta

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Speaker 2: commentary on commentary?

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Speaker 1: All of that.

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Speaker 2: Demonse, though fresh from his brand new studio with his

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Speaker 2: right eleven Celtics Jersey our YouTube plaque looking great, sound well,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you're sounding great or not.

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Speaker 1: Let me hear you good.

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Speaker 3: To see you, pops. But yeah, we're at a new location.

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Speaker 3: It took me a little bit less time to get

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Speaker 3: here today, but yeah, excited to do it from the

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Speaker 3: old apartment.

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Speaker 2: Oh well, I wasn't gonna dox you now everyone knows

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Speaker 2: where you're at the now the but no, that works.

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Speaker 1: So Demansey's got the home setup. I've got the home setup.

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Speaker 1: It's great.

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Speaker 2: We are by coastal on this show. Before though, we

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Speaker 2: get to Rockets Warriors, Let's get to what missed the cut.

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Speaker 2: We'll miss the cut in today's show, the Commanders returning

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Speaker 2: to d C.

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Speaker 1: I haven't followed that story. Listen.

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Speaker 2: The thundersweep the Grizzlies and the Cavs sweep the Heat,

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Speaker 2: and they both those series involved fifty plus point wins.

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Speaker 2: Jah though says he had the Thunder figured out. By

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Speaker 2: the way, for those keeping track at home, the Thunder

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Speaker 2: were eight no against the Grizzlies this year. However, I

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Speaker 2: guess Joe's point is it went from fifty to seventeen

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Speaker 2: to up twenty seven. Had I stayed health, we had

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Speaker 2: a won Game six of that series by ninety points.

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Speaker 2: The trajectory we were on for Oklahoma City and for

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Speaker 2: Cleveland their rewards as being the one seed. The NBA

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Speaker 2: has never done this before. They did it this year, though,

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Speaker 2: the rewards for the one seed was a bye, a

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Speaker 2: true first round by and so their playoffs will start

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Speaker 2: next week. Also, we typically stay out of this silly

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Speaker 2: internet memory, but this one hundred men versus one gorilla

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Speaker 2: topic is simply too delectable to ignore, so we will

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Speaker 2: get to that later in the show. A reminder, if

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Speaker 2: All of that really does help, all right, demanse, Let's

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Speaker 2: get to Rockets Warriors.

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Speaker 3: Uh yeah, Golden State went up three to one against

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Speaker 3: the Rockets. Despite Steph's somewhat mediocre game, this series has

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Speaker 3: been super chippy and Houston actually had a chance there

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Speaker 3: at the end. Shanghun had a go ahead bucket he missed.

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Speaker 3: Van Vliet had a three in transition missed that as well.

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Speaker 3: You picked the Rockets in this series. In this series,

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Speaker 3: do you think they've officially blown it?

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Speaker 2: I think they have probably blown it. I real quick,

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Speaker 2: did you think Van Vleet shot was going in? I

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Speaker 2: thought it was going in.

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Speaker 3: No, he had it exactly in line.

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Speaker 1: It was just off by, like just short.

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Speaker 2: Usually when you take those kind of running almost sideways threes,

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Speaker 2: if you miss it, you're gonna miss it to the right.

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Speaker 2: When I saw the line it was on, I was like,

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Speaker 2: holy shit, he made.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean there were a bunch of air balls yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Steph had two, Draymond had a couple. Van Vliet had won.

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Speaker 2: But the story of the game is Draymond Green. Because

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Speaker 2: put this game on Draymond's basketball tombstone, just the perfect

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Speaker 2: vintage Draymond Green. Every single reason you love him or

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Speaker 2: every single reason you can't stand him, a true Draymond

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Speaker 2: Green playoff masterclass. And listen, Draymond has consumed a fair

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Speaker 2: amount of my Draymond Green related media. I hope he

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Speaker 2: sees this and or I hope someone sends it to him,

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Speaker 2: because listen, I don't Draymond Green and I have a

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Speaker 2: lot of mutual not just acquaintances, but close friends that

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Speaker 2: social setting. It it was nothing bad at all. We

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Speaker 2: were both cordial, but it wasn't you know, warm and

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Speaker 2: I you know, understandable and you know probably sixty forty

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Speaker 2: my fault in that regard. But and I am someone

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Speaker 2: who has been highly critical. I think fairly of a

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Speaker 2: lot of the Draymond Green nonsense, and at times I

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Speaker 2: poke a little fun at the backpack shots and the

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Speaker 2: triple singles. However, yesterday was the perfect encapsulation.

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Speaker 1: For why.

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Speaker 2: This era of Warriors basketball if you remove the supercharged

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Speaker 2: three years with Durant that were its own thing, the

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Speaker 2: pre Durant and post Durant era, even when you had

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Speaker 2: each and every year, for good or for bad, the

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Speaker 2: second most important player on that team is Draymond Green.

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Speaker 2: And as much as Steph unlocks everyone on their offense,

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Speaker 2: Draymond unlocks everyone on their defense. And last night was

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Speaker 2: just perfect because Draymond hits his first two shots, then

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Speaker 2: of the night, Draymond is flailing and flopping and grabbing

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Speaker 2: and kicking and doing every single thing he can do

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Speaker 2: being ejected, and he is snarling and spittling and intimidating

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Speaker 2: the rockets and then playing an extra level mind game

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Speaker 2: when he tries to with the free throw line on

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Speaker 2: Tarry Esen. And then Amen Thompson comes over and is like, hey,

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Speaker 2: don't be friendly with Draymond. Then Draymond gets into it

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Speaker 2: with Amen, and it's just the full Draymond experience, and

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Speaker 2: it's all wrapped around absolute lockdown, shut down defense on

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Speaker 2: Alpern Shingun who in the minute that Shingoon got with

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Speaker 2: Draymond off the he scored any time he wanted. I

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Speaker 2: thought Udoka made a significant error in the moment Draymond

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Speaker 2: picked up his fifth ball and went to the bench.

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Speaker 2: He didn't put Shingoun right back in the game. Now,

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Speaker 2: he put him in shortly thereafter, But that needed to

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Speaker 2: be instantaneous. Every single minute Draymond was not on the court,

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Speaker 2: Shingoon should have been on the court absolutely cooking.

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Speaker 1: And that's ultimately what he did.

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Speaker 2: Ultimately, he went back in the game, lit him up,

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Speaker 2: and then Draymond came back in and Shingoon was shook

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Speaker 2: and Draymond asked for one on one defensive assignment game

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Speaker 2: on the line. Shingoon makes the shot you're going back

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Speaker 2: to Golden State. I'm sorry, going back to Houston. That's

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Speaker 2: very important. Two games apiece, Shingoon misses the shot and

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Speaker 2: you have a commanding lead on the series, and.

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Speaker 1: Draymond got him.

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Speaker 2: And so years ago when the Warriors were at their

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Speaker 2: apex and.

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Speaker 1: People thought this was.

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Speaker 2: Anti Kawhi rather than being pro Draymond. But I was

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Speaker 2: on the record that I thought Draymond should have won

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Speaker 2: three consecutive Defensive Player of the Year awards. I thought

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Speaker 2: Draymond's ability to let them play small and to still

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Speaker 2: have a dominant defense was such an underrated element of

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Speaker 2: the fifteen and sixteen Warriors. What people forget about those

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Speaker 2: two Warriors years pre Durant was, yes, Steph was unbelievable,

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Speaker 2: and nobody forgets the threes and the seventy three wins

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Speaker 2: and Clay's thirty seven point quarter and all of that.

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Speaker 2: What people do forget is they had the number one

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Speaker 2: defensive basketball those two years, and that was Draymond Green.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't just Draymond. Iggy was a great defender, Clay

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Speaker 2: was a great defender, but Draymond Green was the tip

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Speaker 2: this point of his career, when a legitimate concern for

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Speaker 2: Draymond was he is already at a deficit athletically. What

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Speaker 2: is it going to look like when he just loses

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Speaker 2: five ten percent of his athleticism, when he's already not

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Speaker 1: And the answer is his.

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Speaker 2: Toughness, his tenacity, his basketball brilliance will overcome all of it.

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Speaker 2: And it is really a remarkable feat what he has

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Speaker 2: been able to accomplish in this series without ever scoring,

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Speaker 2: without ever scoring in double digits. It is.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely spectacular and it shows a that one of.

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Speaker 2: The smartest quotes he's ever given is, there's eighty two

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Speaker 2: game guys in their sixteen game guys, and he is

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Speaker 2: the definition of a sixteen game guy. And to be clear,

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Speaker 2: it doesn't absolve him of all the nonsense, and it

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Speaker 2: doesn't make him, in my opinion, particularly enjoyable to watch,

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Speaker 2: but it is the definition of a player who understood,

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Speaker 2: I have one path to being a great player, and

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Speaker 2: that is the path I am going to walk, and

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Speaker 2: I have respect for that. And it is such a

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Speaker 2: luxury for Steph Curry that Steph can have an off night,

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Speaker 2: seventeen three and three four turnovers. Hit the one huge shot,

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Speaker 2: just a shot that the Warrior has been hitting for

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Speaker 2: ten years. You get a defensive stop, knock the ball

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Speaker 2: out of balance. They got two on the shot clock.

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Speaker 2: You know they're going to Steph for three. You know

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Speaker 2: he's pump faking. You're gonna bite on the pump fake

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Speaker 2: anyway and give up the three late in the fourth.

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Speaker 1: That was really his only noteworthy.

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Speaker 2: Moment of the second half, and they can win anyway. Now,

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Speaker 2: speaking of Steph, people got very mad.

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Speaker 1: DEMANSA.

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Speaker 2: You saw it coming when we were doing the show

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Speaker 2: on Thursday and I kind of did the impromptu Steph

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Speaker 2: Curry rules mini rant. Yeah, you you could tell that

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Speaker 2: that was going to be an unpopular take. You might

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Speaker 2: have even thought it was a slightly unfair take from

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Speaker 3: Of Yeah, I thought you were being scenari towards the

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Speaker 3: Curry fans, and that's not necessarily Curry. But yeah, I

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Speaker 3: mean definitely knew that was going to get some engagements.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So a few things on that. One is.

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Speaker 2: People then tried to take my Steph take and remove

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Speaker 2: Steph and put in Lebron's name because now it looks

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Speaker 2: like they're going to lose in round one, which is

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Speaker 2: a unique and interesting turn of phrase and a smart

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Speaker 2: thing to do if you can say with a straight

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Speaker 2: Lebron James's career where he has skirted criticism where it's

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Speaker 2: been like, oh, the media didn't jump on Lebron there. Wow,

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Speaker 2: people are just missing the boat on this one. People

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Speaker 2: are Wow, they're sure letting Lebron for that early playoff

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Speaker 2: exit slide, Like that's never happened.

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Speaker 1: So it.

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Speaker 2: Wasn't to say he's never come up short. It was

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Speaker 2: to say or it wasn't even to say that Steph

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Speaker 2: regularly does. It was to say.

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Speaker 1: That in regards to.

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Speaker 2: Steph, the commentary somewhat vacillates between he's underappreciated goat point

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Speaker 2: guard in the goat conversation. That's the upper end, and

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Speaker 2: then the bad game or disappointing game or disappointing playoff

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Speaker 2: performance end is nothing. And I would argue if folks

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Speaker 2: want to do the Lebron comparison there, that the Lebron

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Speaker 1: That was amazing.

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Speaker 2: But here's why Jordan would have done it better, and

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Speaker 2: Steph has had two brilliant games. Game one was the

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Speaker 2: that series culminated in Steph falling down at mid court,

435
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 2: then throwing the ball backwards over his head out of

436
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 2: bounds in the deciding game, and the Lakers cruising, everyone

437
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 2: will pretend as if that didn't happen, and this is

438
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:19,959
Speaker 2: the newest referendum. I would not enjoy those basketball games,

439
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 2: I'll tell you that much right now. And the Lakers

440
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 2: have put themselves in a position now with the assistance

441
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 2: of Jalen Green and some great Warriors play that we

442
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 2: talked earlier of that being the scenario we're looking at.

443
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 2: The best case scenario coming in was the opposite. Of course,

444
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 2: the Lakers handle business, beat Minnesota in five or six.

445
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 2: The Warriors have a seven game war with Houston. And

446
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 2: this is why playoff basketball is so great. We are

447
00:31:55,960 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 2: like three possessions away from that being the case. Lebron's

448
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 2: masterpiece thirty eight points in Game three, if Luca just

449
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 2: has anything in the tank, they have that. They have

450
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 2: a double digit lead in Game four and they have

451
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 2: the ball up to with a minute left, everything goes

452
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 2: wrong from there that point forward. That's between Lakers being

453
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 2: down three to one and up three to one. And

454
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 2: last night, how many opportunities did Houston have, most notably

455
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 2: just Shingoon shot at the end for that series to

456
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 2: be two to two. But that's the playoffs, man. The

457
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 2: Clippers were one hundredth of a second away from planning

458
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 2: for Oklahoma City, and now they kind of know deep

459
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 2: down we're gonna be playing a game seven at altitude

460
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 2: in Denver. We're the best player in the world on

461
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 2: the other team. It's just just unbelievable.

462
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: All right, the.

463
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 3: Go ahead, it's Shane Goon. Yeah, so Chris is saying.

464
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 2: I cannot believe. I can't believe that no one has

465
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 2: gotten to Reggie about this. You are sitting next to

466
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 2: Kevin Harlan. He is calling him Shin Goon. He's the

467
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 2: best player on the Rockets. He's their only all star.

468
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 2: His name is shing Goon. If you were going to

469
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 2: mispronounce it because it's an international name and you were

470
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 2: just gonna do it the way it's spelled, that would

471
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 2: be Singoon. There is no a in the name. You

472
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 2: are calling the NBA playoffs. You are saying his name

473
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 2: fifty times, and you won't stop calling him Shane Goon.

474
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 2: I don't like. I don't understand it. It is beyond baffling.

475
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 2: Beyond baffling.

476
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 3: I've gotten hip to your your Reggie Miller take. I was.

477
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 3: I was telling Daniel earlier. I've I've been listening to him.

478
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 3: He's it can be a little unbearable, a little annoying.

479
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 1: I mean, it's the it's on. I can't.

480
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 3: I don't know if you noticed yesterday, but Draymond was

481
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 3: like he was doing his antics the entire game, and

482
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 3: then he goes over to apologize and Reggie Miller is like, yeah,

483
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 3: a real vet move by him, and.

484
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 2: It's like, well, acting like I can't, I can't. I

485
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 2: it is the combination of.

486
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:46,800
Speaker 1: I again.

487
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 2: People people tweet to me, they're like, why do you

488
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 2: dislike Reggie Miller. It's it, It's nothing personal. It's just

489
00:34:56,480 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 2: I am. I love him basketball. He is the number

490
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 2: one color commentator on one of the top broadcasts. He

491
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 2: has been involved in a disproportionate amount of my favorite

492
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 2: sports moments, and I'm sorry to be a jerk. I

493
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 2: don't mean to. He's never made a single one of

494
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 2: them better. And it's like you can be like, okay,

495
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,359
Speaker 2: it's just different styles, so be it.

496
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:25,320
Speaker 1: No problem.

497
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 2: You got to pronounce the player's names right, like it's

498
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 2: just a level, It's whatever. All right, let's keep moving.

499
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 2: We can do some follow ups here.

500
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 3: Yeah. So the last two minute report came out and

501
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 3: it said that Luca should have gotten a foul call

502
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 3: on him or not on him. McDaniel should have gotten

503
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 3: a foul call on him because he tripped Luca. Do

504
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 3: you think that this swinging the game more than JJ

505
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 3: deciding to play the starting fial.

506
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 2: Well, listen, if they get that foul call that, you know,

507
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 2: assuming Luca makes both, which you don't know for sure,

508
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:57,760
Speaker 2: the Lakers are in, you know, up one with thirty

509
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 2: five seconds left. I I am pretty consistent on this,

510
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 2: complaining about officiatings for losers.

511
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 1: And be better.

512
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 2: You're it's gonna you like to think eventually it'll even out.

513
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: Uh, I'll be honest.

514
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 2: I was more annoyed by the NBA breaking out the

515
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:24,800
Speaker 2: five thousand millimeters of pruder camera to find the foul

516
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 2: on Lebron than I was them not calling the.

517
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: Trip like that was. That was frustrating.

518
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 2: I But I but where I'm consistent on that is

519
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 2: I just don't like replay in sports in general. I

520
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:41,720
Speaker 2: think it has made sports worse, but that's another argument

521
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 2: for another day. The worst missed call the refs had

522
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 2: in that game was the kickball out of bounds on

523
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:52,320
Speaker 2: the sideline that would have been Laker's ball with fourteen

524
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,280
Speaker 2: on the clock. Instead they called shotluck violation. But whatever,

525
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 2: like be better. So I'm not gonna and I did not.

526
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 2: I understand the last two minute reports said what it said.

527
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 2: I didn't think that was an egregious missed call. That

528
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 2: was borderline it. You know, Lucas stepped on his foot,

529
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 2: he did stick his foot out. That was whatever be better,

530
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 2: and Lebron's got to inbound that ball better. So, like

531
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 2: I the I'm not going to blame refs.

532
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 3: I don't.

533
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:16,359
Speaker 1: I don't.

534
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 3: It's not my thing in the reviewing situation. Like I

535
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 3: think the time has to be cut down. That's one thing.

536
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 3: Reggie Miller is one hundred per correct on that game yesterday.

537
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 3: I mean, I think there was like ten minutes of

538
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 3: them reviewing a play in Golden Rockets.

539
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 2: Listen, this is an rant for the off season. But

540
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 2: if you can't figure it out within thirty seconds, the

541
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 2: call on the floor.

542
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 3: Stands stands, right, Yeah, and the only The.

543
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 2: Only scenario where I am okay with them taking all

544
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 2: the time they need is the Clippers Nugget scenario where

545
00:37:56,120 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 2: it's game over or not game over, because it that

546
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 2: is to what nobody ever talks about when.

547
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 1: It comes to these replays and reviews is fatigue and conditioning.

548
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,760
Speaker 2: Being a part of sports, and that it should benefit

549
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 2: the more better conditioned team, And so the long replays

550
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 2: and reviews skews the fair outcome. With the one exception

551
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 2: of something like Clippers Nuggets where it's literally the last

552
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 2: play of the game like that, that to me is

553
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 2: a different situation everything else. It was put in place

554
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 2: so you could get obvious mistakes, right not so oh

555
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 2: we called this and out of bounds.

556
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:43,439
Speaker 1: But it turns out when we take the camera from

557
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: the drone at the ceilings and zoom in and black

558
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: and white, we see, like, give me a break, let's

559
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,479
Speaker 1: do the last follow up here about Aunt.

560
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so last year everybody thought aunt was taking

561
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 3: the big He had a lot of traction saying he's

562
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:03,839
Speaker 3: gonna be the face of the league, but they kind

563
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 3: of died off after the Western Conference finals. So we

564
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 3: think that it's a real deal. He's walking down some.

565
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 2: Well, Listen, what's definitely a real deal is he's been

566
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 2: the best player in this series and that's a series

567
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 2: with Pete Luca it supposed to be and Lebron in

568
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 2: the playoffs who will always just be great. And that's remarkable.

569
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 2: It's also real that he's twenty three years old. He's

570
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 2: knocked Kevin Durant and Devin Booker out of the playoffs.

571
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 2: He's knocked Nikola Jokic and Jamal Murray out of the playoffs.

572
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 2: He is a game away from knocking Luke and Lebron

573
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:36,800
Speaker 2: out of the playoffs. And then he's gonna have a

574
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 2: chance to knock Steph out of the playoffs. Like that's

575
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 2: that's the path. And now our resident Nuggets fan Daniel,

576
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 2: who is a really really sharp guy and a great producer,

577
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 2: but has a blind spot for his team, rites in.

578
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 2: Didn't Jokic, not Ant knock Ant, Durant and Lebron out? Yes, Daniel,

579
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 2: And that's how he became known as.

580
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: The best player in the league. Yes, yes, he did.

581
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 2: And that's why we are now talking about if Aunt

582
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,839
Speaker 2: were to do something similar, what it would mean for him.

583
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 2: I get it, you are correct, sir, and and so

584
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 2: it's like my Ba and Aunt. Listen, the what the

585
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 2: conversation that is starting with Aunt and fair is fair?

586
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 1: Oh?

587
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 2: Is is he The conversation that's starting is is he

588
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 2: better than Luca?

589
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: And Perk flat out said he is. Listen.

590
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 2: I would still rather have Luca, however, and I don't

591
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,720
Speaker 2: think it's I don't think we can be so prisoner

592
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 2: of the moment d where Luca drastically outplays him and

593
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 2: beats him in the conference finals a year ago.

594
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 1: And that is totally that means nothing.

595
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 2: If the opposite then happens in the playoffs this year,

596
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 2: that just means they're.

597
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: One to one.

598
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 2: However, this year Ant's game has jumped and Lucas didn't.

599
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:32,320
Speaker 2: And you know, Anti's a dominant two way.

600
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 1: Player like he is.

601
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's Luca dropping us tier for

602
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,959
Speaker 2: the time being or Ant rising a tier.

603
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 1: It's a little bit of both. But that is a

604
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 1: fair discussion.

605
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 3: The mean, when you bake in the defense with Anthony Edwards,

606
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,760
Speaker 3: I think is probably I don't know where Kendrick Perkins

607
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 3: was talking about or where his points were, but yeah,

608
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 3: I think when you factor in the fact that Ant

609
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 3: plays actual defense and he can probably average the same

610
00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 3: amount of points that Luca can.

611
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing is he hasn't shown he can

612
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,839
Speaker 2: average the amount of points as Luca can, and he's

613
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 2: never where been close to the passer Luca's been, so

614
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 2: Lucas is he hasn't been in this series. But Luca

615
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 2: is the more well rounded.

616
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 3: Better as series, right, all.

617
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 2: Right, And so there's just but it is listen, the

618
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 2: playoffs in the games and the results have to matter,

619
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 2: and so like that is that like he is making

620
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 2: a claim and we'll see how far he can push

621
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 2: this thing.

622
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 1: All right, Let's move on to Dame.

623
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,800
Speaker 3: So Dame unfortunately went down with a non contact injury

624
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:45,240
Speaker 3: a few days ago. He tore his achilles in game four.

625
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 3: You said that it was likely the last time we

626
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 3: see Dame play like Dame, and you also said this

627
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,479
Speaker 3: is probably the last time we see Giannis as a buck.

628
00:42:54,680 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 3: Your thoughts, Yeah, I I hate.

629
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 2: This so much for Damian Lillard, and you know he

630
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 2: he he came back faster from and it killed sorry

631
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 2: from blood clots than anyone ever and that I don't

632
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 2: really understand how he did it. And obviously blood clots

633
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 2: are not related to a torn achilles However, him being

634
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 2: out and not being able to train and do their

635
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,959
Speaker 2: play for a month a month and then jumping into

636
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 2: playoff basketball. Did that contribute I would have to imagine

637
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 2: it at least could have. And so you just feel

638
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 2: truly sick to your stomach that this guy did everything

639
00:43:52,600 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 2: he could to come back as early as possible and

640
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 2: now and it was to get this playoff run. And

641
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 2: now he didn't get this playoff run, and he's not

642
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 2: gonna have next year's playoff run, and he might not

643
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 2: have any more playoff runs. So I mean that is

644
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:18,240
Speaker 2: a true cruel, cruel turn of events for a great

645
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 2: dude and a great player. Yeah, I mean you just

646
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 2: hate it. You hate every piece of it. And you

647
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 2: know he has I'm sure so.

648
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: Many what ifs in his head.

649
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 2: What if he had just stayed in Portland and just

650
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 2: been the legend there forever. It's not like, you know,

651
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 2: well if I had done that, I wouldn't have gotten

652
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 2: these great playoff runs that those never happened.

653
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Speaker 3: So you, oh, you said that, Dame said, like, what

654
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 3: if I'd never left Portland? And you're saying, honest might.

655
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, what I'm saying. I'm just talking about

656
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 2: from Dame. I'll get to Giannis in a minute. What

657
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,839
Speaker 2: I'm saying for Dame is he's just thinking, like I'm

658
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 2: sure he has a lot of like, man, what have

659
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 2: I never left? I left Portland, which I didn't really

660
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 2: want to do because I wanted to compete for a championship.

661
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 2: I won zero playoff series in Milwaukee. I would you

662
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Like that that didn't happen. I'm

663
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 2: sure he's also thinking, what if they had just traded

664
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 2: me where I wanted to be traded to Miami and

665
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 2: it was me and Jimmy Butler and bam.

666
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 1: You know what would that have looked like?

667
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 2: And so it's a cruel not final chapter, but close

668
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 2: to a final chapter for Dame and then for Yannis.

669
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 2: I I don't see how Yannis can stay. And the

670
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 2: Bucks are in such a weird spot because they don't

671
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 2: control any of their own picks the next six years,

672
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 2: so they can't tank, They have no cap space to

673
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 2: improve the team, they don't have any young players that

674
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 2: you're just super excited about, and so it's gonna be

675
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 2: fake trade season with Giannis. And there's two demands that

676
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 2: I made that are really interesting. One is to the Rockets,

677
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 2: where you get Hngoon Reed Shepherd, who is a top

678
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 2: five pick who doesn't play. Jack Landale. He doesn't play

679
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:42,919
Speaker 2: because he doesn't defend, but he was top by picking

680
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 2: this year's draft, so he's valuable Jack Landale for salary filler.

681
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 2: And then four draft picks, two of which are super valuable,

682
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 2: the Phoenix twenty seven and twenty nine first and the

683
00:46:56,719 --> 00:47:01,919
Speaker 2: Houston twenty eight and thirty first. That if you're Milwaukee,

684
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 2: because keep in mind, you can't tank, so Shingoon makes

685
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,919
Speaker 2: it so you don't tank. You have those picks to

686
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 2: start getting the young players. That to me is a unique,

687
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 2: an interesting one. And then the other one if you

688
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 2: just want to go pure young you there is a

689
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 2: trade with the Spurs where you offer them Giannis so

690
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 2: Jannis and Wimber together, which is terrifying for the league,

691
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 2: and they give up Barnes for the salary Kelden Johnson,

692
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 2: Rookie of the Year Stefan Castle, and then a litany

693
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 2: of picks, the Atlanta and first round pick in twenty

694
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 2: twenty seven, the Chicago first round pick in twenty twenty seven,

695
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 2: the Boston first round pick in twenty twenty eight, the

696
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 2: Dallas first round pick in twenty thirty, which could be

697
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 2: super valuable, and the Minnesota first round pick in twenty thirty,

698
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 2: which is okay, And I like, those are.

699
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,760
Speaker 1: Real trades and.

700
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 2: I'm interested if they would they would be interested in

701
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 2: any of those the are there any other fake trades

702
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 2: you want to ask me about?

703
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's what about okay? See, I mean they have picks,

704
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 3: and they can obviously trade good players. So you see

705
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:29,839
Speaker 3: that working out.

706
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 2: Here's the thing for okay, se First of all, they

707
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 2: might win the title this year. If they do that,

708
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 2: I can't imagine.

709
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 3: That in this scenario, if they fell off, if they

710
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 3: came up short, if.

711
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: They Okay, so they came up short, do they?

712
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:55,479
Speaker 2: So they're not trading shit, right, So I'm just trying

713
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 2: to see how they could make the salaries work. I

714
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 2: guess they could because Hartenstein makes twenty eight million. I'm

715
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 2: just trying to put it together on the fly. If

716
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 2: you traded them Hartenstein.

717
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:19,879
Speaker 1: And Chet to go and.

718
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 2: Let me find one more guy that you would have

719
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 2: like would if you traded him Hartenstein, Chet and Isaiah.

720
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 1: Joe That that makes the salaries work.

721
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 2: And then they have the picks okac has Is in

722
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty six, Houston's and the Clippers in twenty twenty

723
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Speaker 2: seven their own, and Dallas in twenty twenty eight Denver

724
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 2: Denver's pick, and then they have their own picks the

725
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:02,720
Speaker 2: rest of the way, so they don't have have great picks.

726
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 2: We thought that Clippers pick would be unbelievable. Do they

727
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,720
Speaker 2: have swaps? I thought they had swaps with the Clippers

728
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:17,280
Speaker 2: and let me look that up real quick, future draft

729
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,319
Speaker 2: picks Clippers.

730
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Speaker 1: So or no, I don't, so let me see.

731
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 2: They so outgoing draft picks for the I should have

732
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:38,240
Speaker 2: done the Thunder, but so I don't think that maybe

733
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 2: those picks went elsewhere. Sorry, this is not good podcasting,

734
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:46,240
Speaker 2: but I just incoming picks.

735
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Speaker 1: So they Yeah, they can swap.

736
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:56,240
Speaker 2: With the Clippers in twenty twenty seven, they can swap

737
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 2: with Dallas in twenty twenty eight.

738
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Speaker 1: Uh, and I think.

739
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 2: That's where that the Paul George trade and all that

740
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:08,320
Speaker 2: stuff ends. But Chat would be a real piece. Obviously,

741
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 2: Hartenstein's a real piece. So yeah, I don't think the

742
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 2: Thunder gonna make that move. Maybe I'm wrong. I think

743
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 2: Houston or San Antonio are the more likely outcomes there

744
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 2: all right, we're gonna do this. I guess we're gonna

745
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 2: try to do some shadoor Thursday because we don't have

746
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 2: time for it here, because I do want to I

747
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 2: want to have some fun, and I also want to

748
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 2: talk about the Saquon thing. So let's just skip ahead

749
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 2: to the saque thing, because this is very simple and

750
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 2: I I don't know why people. I do know why

751
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 2: people are being disingenuous about this, but it's annoying, so

752
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 2: let me do so if people don't know.

753
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:55,800
Speaker 1: Obviously, the Eagles were at the White House yesterday.

754
00:51:56,360 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 2: Sidebar that for a moment prior to that, sake was

755
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 2: chilling with the president and golfing with him. He then

756
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 2: tweeted the following, Okay, and we can lol. Some people

757
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 2: are really upset because I played golf and flew to

758
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 2: the White House with the all caps president. Maybe I

759
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 2: just respect the office. Not a hard concept to understand.

760
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,839
Speaker 2: Just golfed with Obama not too long ago and look

761
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 2: forward to finishing my round with Trump.

762
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:25,879
Speaker 1: Now you get out my.

763
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 2: Mentions with all this politics and have an amazing day

764
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 2: laughing emoji. Okay, I'm gonna give Saquon the benefit of

765
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 2: the doubt. That he's smarter than that.

766
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 1: And this is if you have the intellectual capacity to

767
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: listen to this in a non partisan manner, I think

768
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 1: I think you will.

769
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 2: Agree with what I'm saying. The reason I said I

770
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 2: think I thought he was smarter than that is very simple.

771
00:52:55,680 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 2: Choosing to spend time with the world's most famous politician

772
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:08,799
Speaker 2: and then being like, why y'all talk in politics here

773
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 2: is stupid.

774
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 1: It's dumb behavior.

775
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 2: And if you were photographed hanging out with Bobby Flay

776
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 2: and then we're like, hey, why, people drop in recipes

777
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 2: in my mentions, like hey man, this is like this

778
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 2: is what it is, So like the whole where's this

779
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 2: coming from? Guy in the banana costume?

780
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 1: Who did this? Buddy?

781
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:47,919
Speaker 2: You're golfing with the world's most famous politician. So there's

782
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 2: that piece of it. Okay, it's not an unfair ask

783
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 2: or an unfair assumption, whatever it is. Now here is

784
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 2: the slightly more complicated but not actually complicated piece of this.

785
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:15,800
Speaker 2: I do think that athletes get put in tricky spots

786
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 2: when it comes to we've won the championship, We've been

787
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 2: invited to the White House, because they are then without

788
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 2: opting into it, being forced to make what will for

789
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 2: many people be a political choice, just the again Obama

790
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:43,280
Speaker 2: Trump president. I obviously do not view them the same,

791
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 2: but I understand the way I feel about one and

792
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 2: feel about the other. Some people listening feel the exact

793
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 2: same way, but in the one.

794
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 1: Hundred and eighty degrees. So just stick with me here

795
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 1: for a moment. Guys, when it comes to my team's

796
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:00,120
Speaker 1: been invited to the White House.

797
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:12,240
Speaker 2: And I disagree with everything the president represents, you're putting

798
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 2: a weird spot because if you show up, some people

799
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 2: will use that against you. And if you don't show up,

800
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 2: as Jalen Hurts is learning right now, some people will

801
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 2: use that against you.

802
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 1: And you didn't ask to go.

803
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 2: You're like, I just practiced hard and got great at

804
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 2: the sport, my team won a championship, and now I'm

805
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 2: I'm making I'm being forced to make a decision either way.

806
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 2: I empathize with guys in that spot, truly, okay, and

807
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 2: I am everyone's got to make their own decision. But

808
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 2: I feel badly when folks who truly want nothing to

809
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 2: and I get let me, I'll back up even further.

810
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 2: I get folks that are saying, no, you have an

811
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 2: obligation in this moment to stand up for what you

812
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:05,839
Speaker 2: believe in is Folks that think there's a crisis, all

813
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 2: of it. I get all that, and we can have

814
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 2: those discussions at a different time. It's not what I'm

815
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 2: trying to do right now. What I'm trying to do

816
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 2: right now is make a very specific point, and the

817
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:21,359
Speaker 2: specific point the only way to make it is if

818
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:28,840
Speaker 2: we just treat all presidencies equal. And I understand that's

819
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 2: not how people feel about any presidency. Okay, and I

820
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 2: feel particularly this one, but I know a lot of

821
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:41,800
Speaker 2: you guys watching felt like the eight years under Obama

822
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:42,880
Speaker 2: were damn tyranny.

823
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:46,280
Speaker 1: So like, again, agree to disagree on that stuff. Stick

824
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 1: with me.

825
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 2: On an intellectual level, the White House visit stuff puts

826
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 2: guys in a tough spot.

827
00:56:53,760 --> 00:57:00,240
Speaker 1: They didn kN opped into. This was not that.

828
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:10,799
Speaker 2: Choosing opting into in your personal time, striking up a

829
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 2: personal relationship with the sitting president of the United States.

830
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 1: Is a political decision, flatly.

831
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 2: And when you opt into that arena, folks are going

832
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 2: to assume that you either share some values or whatever

833
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 2: they think is the most objectionable thing about that politician,

834
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:50,439
Speaker 2: that you don't have the same issue with that they do,

835
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 2: which is objectively likely true. The folks that thought Obama

836
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 2: was the Antichrist cannot believe Saquon Barkley would golf with him.

837
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley, I assume knew that chose to do it anyway.

838
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 2: And the folks that believe the current president is a

839
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 2: dictator in waiting or wants to be and thinks that

840
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 2: anything other than hardcore disavowal is a endorsement, those folks

841
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 2: certainly would not golf with him. Saquan is saying, That's

842
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 2: not how I feel. Obviously, as of this moment, we

843
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 2: still have free speech in this country, freedom of political expression.

844
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 2: He's allowed to think or feel whatever he wants. What

845
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 2: you can't do is then play the woe is me?

846
00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 2: Why is everyone acting like this is a big deal?

847
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 2: Gotta be smarter than that, And Saquan's a smart guy,

848
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 2: and so.

849
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 1: I I was.

850
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 2: Disappointed at the where's this coming from? Why are you

851
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 2: guys being ridiculous tweet?

852
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 1: When it was.

853
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 2: Totally fair, in my opinion, for folks to see anyone

854
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 2: that you are not part of your job, not being

855
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 2: made to do, not part of team building, that you

856
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 2: are opting to spend five hours of your personal time

857
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 2: with hobnobbing on the golf course. That folks might then

858
00:59:56,840 --> 01:00:02,959
Speaker 2: think you are endorsing that person to a degree, which

859
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 2: obviously you are allowed to do. To act shocked by

860
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 2: that reaction, it's either naive, disingenuous, or dumb.

861
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 1: And I don't know which one you want to be.

862
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 2: Now to what people come here for? One hundred men

863
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 2: versus one gorilla demonse? Finally, snap judgment, because I don't

864
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 2: think this is a hard question.

865
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 3: I think it's one hundred men easily. But that's what

866
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 3: I've been telling. That's my take on I think I

867
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:35,480
Speaker 3: think fifty.

868
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 1: Probably demonse easily. Yeah's one hundred men.

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing now, I thought van Lathan had the

870
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 2: funniest content on this, and I didn't even consume the content.

871
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 2: I just saw the tweet. But I'm gonna van Lathan

872
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 2: had a whiteboard.

873
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 3: Have you seen this, demanse Uh, I've not seen it.

874
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 2: I'm texting it to you right now. I'm gonna text

875
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 2: it to our group chat. I don't know if we

876
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 2: can put it up there or not.

877
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 1: I should have told the producers before.

878
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 2: But he's holding a whiteboard, shout out Van Lathan, who

879
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 2: I don't know but does good stuff.

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01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:20,560
Speaker 1: So there it is. He's holding a white It.

881
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:26,360
Speaker 2: Says one hundred versus gorilla, and then parenthetical wild average

882
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:31,960
Speaker 2: size six feet, four hundred pounds, brolic all underlined. It

883
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 2: then has a picture of the gorilla and it would

884
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 2: appear he has circled its weak spots, head, skull, brain, throat, neck, chest, heart, lungs, knees,

885
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 2: and it looks like it's got his fingers. So he

886
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 2: has broken this down into five waves. Wave one meat

887
01:01:53,920 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 2: sacks parenthetical Vince will forks three hundred poundersynthetical bloody mess.

888
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 2: Wave two runners parenthetical Noah Lyles's uh sidebar disorient him.

889
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 2: Wave three light brutes for arm kicking. Wave four heavy

890
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 2: brutes for sapping the energy parenthetical Aaron Donald. Wave five

891
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 2: finishers vital striking throat neck parenthetical John Jones. Then at

892
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:34,720
Speaker 2: the bottom in a box, some will die.

893
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 3: And so here's.

894
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 2: The deal, and this is and Van nailed it. And

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01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 2: this is why this conversation is so ridiculous if it

896
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 2: is understood, guys, the first and hit he had a

897
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:56,800
Speaker 2: real strategy. I don't even think you need a real

898
01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 2: strategy that would be the best way to.

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Speaker 1: Go about it.

900
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 2: But if the if you have one hundred adult men

901
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:12,479
Speaker 2: and everyone understands it's like the old World War One

902
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:17,920
Speaker 2: movies where deserters will be shot. You can only go

903
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 2: in one direction, and the guys at the front understand

904
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:28,920
Speaker 2: I'm probably dying. This thing is not that difficult if

905
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 2: the every like the it just the overwhelming numbers of

906
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:38,920
Speaker 2: it make it so clear to where if truly no

907
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:42,440
Speaker 2: one abandoned ship on this this can be done in

908
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:47,480
Speaker 2: relative quick order because of the overall weight and mass.

909
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:53,560
Speaker 2: The reason is such a unique and fun topic is

910
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:58,800
Speaker 2: while one hundred humans is obviously the right answer from

911
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 2: any sinem emulation standpoint or any standpoint where you get

912
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 2: the fake theoretical world that no one abandoned ship, in reality,

913
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:17,600
Speaker 2: no one hundred humans versus one gorilla would end shortly

914
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:24,600
Speaker 2: like this. The first couple guys get an arm ripped off,

915
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 2: three of your first wave feints, another couple wet themselves

916
01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 2: or defecate on themselves. A few start trying to actually

917
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 2: team up with the gorilla where you're like pushing him

918
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:48,160
Speaker 2: into them, and then you have mutiny, Mayheim disorientation, and

919
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:50,880
Speaker 2: what you end up with is like six or seven

920
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:56,360
Speaker 2: dead guys, some injuries, and guys faking their death and

921
01:04:56,840 --> 01:05:00,880
Speaker 2: people scattered running everywhere. That's how it really goes.

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01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:03,480
Speaker 1: But if you're.

923
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:07,440
Speaker 2: Asking if you can guarantee everyone is locked in on

924
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:12,680
Speaker 2: the goal, you can take the gorilla out quickly and honestly.

925
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:19,200
Speaker 1: If you attack simultaneously minimal death. The problem is.

926
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Speaker 2: Who's going to be the guy that's like, all right,

927
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:28,600
Speaker 2: short straw, here, I guess not only am I dying,

928
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:33,200
Speaker 2: but I'm dying at the hands of a gorilla, and

929
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:38,480
Speaker 2: so that's the I. I don't think this is a debate.

930
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:47,000
Speaker 2: I know I'm right, and that's how it would go. So,

931
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Speaker 2: as the kids say, find you a podcast that can

932
01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:59,480
Speaker 2: do both some very smart non political political commentary and

933
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:05,440
Speaker 2: then the only true breakdown using real world factors of

934
01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:09,600
Speaker 2: one gorilla versus one hundred men.

935
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Speaker 3: This one.

936
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:15,200
Speaker 2: I wouldn't think I would like it either, However I

937
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:20,200
Speaker 2: found it so it was a fun thought exercise. I

938
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:26,240
Speaker 2: also loved when Dragonfly Jones and le Jethro Jenkins Great

939
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Speaker 2: Pod used to be on the volume.

940
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Speaker 1: When they did their beast Bracket. Did you ever see that?

941
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 3: No?

942
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:39,000
Speaker 1: So let me let me try to pull it up real.

943
01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:43,800
Speaker 3: Quick, one hundred men versus a grizzly bear, though it's

944
01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:45,720
Speaker 3: just slightly more complicated.

945
01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:50,080
Speaker 2: More complicated because I don't know where the vulnerabilities are

946
01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:54,800
Speaker 2: and because the grizzly bear has a lot more.

947
01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:57,200
Speaker 1: One shot kills.

948
01:06:57,400 --> 01:07:02,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, so like the the gorilla doesn't have a lot

949
01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 2: of like I mean, obviously can.

950
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 3: Strength, and they don't really use their teeth.

951
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:13,280
Speaker 2: Bears are right, but the polar bears got such a wingspan. Again,

952
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:16,440
Speaker 2: if the polar bear knew what was up, that's the

953
01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:19,640
Speaker 2: other piece of this. If the like, if the polar

954
01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:23,800
Speaker 2: bear knows I got a hundred guys coming at me eventually,

955
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:27,640
Speaker 2: and like he's trained for this, he can almost just

956
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:32,440
Speaker 2: do like a spinning fist with his claws and no

957
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:35,240
Speaker 2: one can ever touch him. That could be a thousand men,

958
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:38,600
Speaker 2: it wouldn't matter because he's so big and can just

959
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:39,760
Speaker 2: one shot.

960
01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:41,440
Speaker 1: Kill you with the faws.

961
01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:43,840
Speaker 3: Gorilla's three sixty as well too. I don't know if

962
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:46,440
Speaker 3: like they're actually more equipped to do it three sixty.

963
01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:47,320
Speaker 1: Yes, but they don't.

964
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:53,240
Speaker 2: But again, the three sixty ends usually with like a

965
01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:59,400
Speaker 2: brutal punch in that hand, not all disembowelment and so

966
01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:04,000
Speaker 2: uh okay. Paul just texted in the beast bracket was

967
01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:08,040
Speaker 2: the idea behind the beast bracket was all of these

968
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:16,559
Speaker 2: things demons have. It's the same weight. So one bison

969
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:22,360
Speaker 2: versus ten kangaroos. Two tigers against five humans. That's two tigers,

970
01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:26,680
Speaker 2: you know, like the the final four got you down to.

971
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:31,120
Speaker 2: There's fifty Tasmanian devils against twenty five bobcats. Four lions

972
01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:35,519
Speaker 2: against fifty foxes and they seated them accordingly. Three silver

973
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:38,679
Speaker 2: back guerrillas against two hundred roosters, like these are the things.

974
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:43,280
Speaker 2: But I think the final four for this ended up

975
01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:48,400
Speaker 2: being two tigers against one polar bear.

976
01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:54,599
Speaker 3: Who you got two tigers against a polar bear. I'll

977
01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:56,960
Speaker 3: go with the I'll go with the polar bear me too.

978
01:08:57,840 --> 01:09:04,000
Speaker 2: Other side of the bracket, eight jaguars against four lions, well,

979
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:08,639
Speaker 2: hold on Sweet sixteen matchup. Four lions against ten wolves.

980
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:11,960
Speaker 2: I don't know wolfs four lives, yeah, but I think

981
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:16,120
Speaker 2: eight jaguars, I'm not sure, all right. I think this

982
01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:20,640
Speaker 2: was the toughest one. Two Grizzlies against three Silverbacks.

983
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:24,840
Speaker 3: I'm taking the Grizzlies. The coats on the Grizzlies are

984
01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:29,200
Speaker 3: just impenetrable and the yeah.

985
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:31,200
Speaker 2: All right, by the way, the shout out Dragonfly Jones,

986
01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:34,160
Speaker 2: Jethrow Jenkins, great job, that's content from them.

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Speaker 1: A year ago.

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Speaker 2: I was super into that. I really enjoyed that bracket thing. Yeah, no,

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01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 2: it was great.

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