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Speaker 2: our seven of day one here, Matt, this is always

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Speaker 2: the end of the first hour, Matt and that is

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Speaker 2: just discussing the news of the day here as many

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Speaker 2: gms across the National Football League spoke. We'll get to

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Speaker 2: Omar Con specifically as we roll along here. But it

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Speaker 2: sounds like Brice Hall. This is another conversation you and

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Speaker 2: I have had a couple times over the last few weeks.

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Speaker 2: What are the Jets going to do with Breece Hall?

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Speaker 2: Could he become a free agent and then I think

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Speaker 2: would be one of the more valued free agent weapons

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Speaker 2: in this class Well, Jets GM Darren Mowgli made it

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Speaker 2: clear Tuesday that the plan is to retain Brice Hall.

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Speaker 2: He said. Ideally, we'll find a way to get a

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Speaker 2: the past year since I got here. Breece is a

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Speaker 2: are still doing so. We have a week to find out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and this doesn't shock me, but if you told

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Speaker 3: me a couple of weeks ago this is a move

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Speaker 3: that I think, like a lot of our listeners probably

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Speaker 3: think there is some logic behind it in that maybe

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Speaker 3: And if they franchise him, well that's a guaranteed chunk

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Speaker 2: You paid him a lot of that guaranteed money up front.

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Speaker 3: You probably get at least a better round bump up

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Speaker 2: Finally, Matt, last piece of kind of news of this

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Speaker 2: I quote, Max is an elite player. And I've been

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Speaker 2: very upfront from the start when I got here that

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Speaker 2: I learned a long time ago. Always listen. I learned

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Speaker 2: to that. Trying to control the narrative and keep your leverage.

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Speaker 3: Little bit of leverage, There's no doubt about that. I

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Speaker 3: know we're gonna draft Mendoza first. Overall, we got a

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Speaker 3: You know, if season goes terrible, you know that a

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Speaker 3: and he's happy to stay there because even a year

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Speaker 3: and maybe this, you know, got the sour taste out

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Speaker 3: he could be attained if you're the Ravens.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, which I would not like.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because I keep seeing articles Lincoln Trey Hendrickson to Baltimore.

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Speaker 2: But that just unless he's completely you know, a free

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Speaker 2: but he yes, absolutely, Matt. You wanted to get into

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Speaker 2: Greg Rosenthal's list of top free agents here. That's a

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Speaker 2: very good one in twenty twenty six and a couple notes.

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Speaker 2: League free agency officially opens Wednesday, March eleven, So that's

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Speaker 3: Okay, Oh that's faster, I thought.

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Speaker 2: I know. That's when the new League.

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Speaker 2: It's a lot of fun, especially because on Monday is

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Speaker 3: So we'll learn a lot starting Monday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, of of when teams are allowed.

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Speaker 2: The legal window, the negotiating window now that they're calling

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Speaker 2: will have plenty in that department.

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Speaker 3: I got some more free agent homework to do. I

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Speaker 3: thought I was on top of it, but it's coming

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Speaker 2: And Matt very interesting because at the top of this

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Speaker 2: list this is not surprising, but it is Malik Willis

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Speaker 2: as as as is it yes, Rosenthal's number one rated

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Speaker 3: And I did hear you know, Gregor, I actually saw

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Speaker 3: should be one? I mean, shouldn't he be ahead of

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Speaker 3: a borderline Pro Bowl center if he maybe can be

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Speaker 3: a franchise quarterback. Okay, that doesn't mean he's gonna get

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Speaker 3: it's the same logic. As you know, if if you

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Speaker 3: like that, probably twenty five ish, you may have answered

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Speaker 2: It's funny too. NFL dot com has an article up

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Speaker 2: of free agency fits, and they have it's a different article, right,

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Speaker 2: A different one has Malik Willis to the Pittsburgh Steelers,

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Speaker 3: This is gonna happen in two weeks.

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Speaker 2: Number six Trey Hendrickson Easy, get.

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Speaker 3: Paid heavy too. I bet he goes a contender, though

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Speaker 3: If the Steelers were to move on from Queen, I'd

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we join him too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. He told me that he was having you on

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Speaker 3: To ask him about Anthony Richardson, Yeah, Pittman.

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Speaker 3: I can't imagine them parting ways. I don't know how

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Speaker 2: You're speaking Arthur Motes's language. He likes that the dirty

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Speaker 3: Sometimes they certainly.

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Speaker 2: Do number ten raining Super Bowl MVP Kenneth Locker.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. They might be a we're not investing in running

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was immediately thinking Chiefs, but I could see

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Speaker 3: there's some guys probably sixty through one hundred and one

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Speaker 3: I mean, some safeties and Nickel corner.

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Speaker 2: Some second wave value, some second wave value, guys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, not top ten guys again.

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Speaker 2: Not the Valedictorians, right, but the but the B B

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Speaker 2: But Matt, you mentioned how on the back end of

446
00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,080
Speaker 2: these free agent lists, there's some names that you would

447
00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:27,119
Speaker 2: be interested in for the Steelers. So I want to

448
00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,280
Speaker 2: run a few by you at certain positions.

449
00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:30,800
Speaker 3: Do you want to do this? Do you just want

450
00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,120
Speaker 3: to rapid fire every name and I'll go no, no, no, no, no,

451
00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,119
Speaker 3: yes no, no, yes, yes.

452
00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:39,040
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, yes, but it's certain positions like I'm not

453
00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:42,080
Speaker 2: gonna do offensive tackles like Brandon Smith, you know, no,

454
00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:46,480
Speaker 2: but I would say guard, yes, safety, yes.

455
00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,520
Speaker 3: Maybe an outside corner.

456
00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:51,120
Speaker 2: Okay, wide receiver okay.

457
00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,560
Speaker 3: I think I would prefer to draft the D tackle.

458
00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,639
Speaker 3: A lot of D tackles are old in this group,

459
00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,760
Speaker 3: a grade thirty plus. I can't think of another position

460
00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:03,200
Speaker 3: that has my interest.

461
00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,679
Speaker 2: All right, so we've got we've got a baseline here.

462
00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:06,840
Speaker 2: Let's roll through some names.

463
00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:12,280
Speaker 3: Romeo Dobbs, Yes, yes, frankly, of all the free agent

464
00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:16,520
Speaker 3: to be not necessarily the tradeable guys, Dobbs is my favorite,

465
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,720
Speaker 3: and Rashid Shaheed is probably second for what I think

466
00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,840
Speaker 3: they'll cost. Like Pierce is slightly better player than those guys.

467
00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:24,800
Speaker 3: I think he's an out price himself and not worth

468
00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,600
Speaker 3: the money. I think Dobbs could be a real suitable

469
00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:32,000
Speaker 3: two that if you turn into a three backtock and

470
00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:35,040
Speaker 3: now you're really talking. He does have some Rogers background.

471
00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,640
Speaker 3: He obviously have some Packers background. He had to overlap

472
00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,520
Speaker 3: with McCarthy. I assume maybe his rookie year. Maybe I'm

473
00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,880
Speaker 3: wrong on that, but he's a solid player and he's

474
00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,439
Speaker 3: on the rise. We're scheduled to have Matt Harmon on

475
00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,359
Speaker 3: tomorrow nice and I definitely want to ask him about

476
00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,720
Speaker 3: Dobbs because he really pointed out too that he and

477
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,800
Speaker 3: Pierce really stepped up this season, you know, and I

478
00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:56,760
Speaker 3: think that's noteworthy.

479
00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,040
Speaker 2: Brian Cook safety.

480
00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, that's I bet so. Just over the last

481
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,879
Speaker 3: forty eight seventy two hours, I've been thinking about the

482
00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:13,280
Speaker 3: secondary more and more, and especially after Omar spoke And

483
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,600
Speaker 3: this is sort of Mike Pursuda's words, who listened to

484
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:19,359
Speaker 3: both press conferences before Omar sat down with us, made

485
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,120
Speaker 3: it sound like we had talked about there's a chance

486
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:25,440
Speaker 3: Queen and or Ramsey could be opening up. You could

487
00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 3: cut him for salary cap space, and I think there's

488
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,160
Speaker 3: an argument for both because you get a nice cap

489
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:36,359
Speaker 3: relief for both players, but you also open up a need. Yes, Ramsey,

490
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 3: I don't think Queens, especially after what Omar said today.

491
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,359
Speaker 3: I don't think there's any chance Queen gets cut, and frankly,

492
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,280
Speaker 3: I don't think Ramsey will get cut, but I wonder,

493
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,200
Speaker 3: and I'm just reading the tea leaves. I felt more

494
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 3: and more like Ramsey might be back to slot corner.

495
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:53,560
Speaker 2: And you're back in the safety mark and then you're

496
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 2: really in the safety market looking for first like Elliott

497
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 2: and nobody else.

498
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 3: Yes, So there's probably five names on this list, and

499
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:01,520
Speaker 3: I guess Cook is the first one that popped up

500
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 3: that are an upgrade athletically.

501
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 2: I think you may need to add you've been talking

502
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 2: about that in the middle of the season.

503
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 3: And when we're talking about defensive back editions, I think

504
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 3: speed's going to be required for me, and they're both.

505
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:19,159
Speaker 3: I think all the names that are going to be

506
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 3: in this list of the safety position are coming off

507
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:24,200
Speaker 3: their first contract and they're not going to be freebies.

508
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 3: They're good quality players, but they're on the rise. And

509
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 3: you know, a safety on the open market it's not

510
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 3: going to be insanely expensive either, you know. So I

511
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 3: could see a safety from without on this list, from

512
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:42,160
Speaker 3: outside the team being your starter next to Elliott, Ramsey

513
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 3: back in the slot go from there, which I wouldn't

514
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:45,960
Speaker 3: have a problem.

515
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,640
Speaker 2: With staying with someone from the Chiefs secondary. What about

516
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:49,640
Speaker 2: Jalen Watson.

517
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 3: I think you'd be an upgrade as your outside corner.

518
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 3: That would be like instead of Pierre, right, good player.

519
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 3: I think people would like him a lot. And this

520
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 3: is in Watson's fault, but one thing, Spagnola is known

521
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,200
Speaker 3: as a great defensive back coach, and you know, get

522
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 3: the most out of those guys. Almost every defensive back,

523
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 3: especially corners, when they've left the Chiefs during the Spagnola era,

524
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,120
Speaker 3: they're not as good as when they were with the Chiefs. Yes, yeah,

525
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 3: it's just something to be aware of.

526
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,920
Speaker 2: Another cornerback potential, Alonte Taylor from the Saints.

527
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:26,199
Speaker 3: This one's actually my favorite. Okay, about fifty percent of

528
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker 3: snaps in a slot about fifty percent of st naps outside.

529
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:34,199
Speaker 3: Now that may counteract the whole Ramsey conversation, you know,

530
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 3: because I would want to use him in both ways.

531
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 3: This would probably get you out of the Pierre market

532
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 3: or the Samuel market. Like he would probably be here

533
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,879
Speaker 3: in two corner sets. It's him in porter, but he

534
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 3: is very positioned versaal I think he's an as sending

535
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:51,919
Speaker 3: player too. He can play man coverage, you know, so

536
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 3: I don't think he'll be as cheap as people would think.

537
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 3: But he's a good player too.

538
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 2: A couple of names from the Super Bowl champion Seattle Seahawks,

539
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 2: second Kobe Bryant, not the of course, dearly departed legendary

540
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,119
Speaker 2: basketball player, but the twenty seven year old safety decent.

541
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 3: I would look for more of an athletic upgrade, though.

542
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:11,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I know you want that athlete on the

543
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:16,119
Speaker 2: back end. Speed Tarik wooland no hit or miss. I

544
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 2: don't know. I feel like he's so system specific.

545
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,919
Speaker 3: He's very system specific, and he's only an outside corner.

546
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,360
Speaker 3: He's like six three sixty four. His rookie year was awesome.

547
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 3: He's super fast, but boy he's a roller coaster.

548
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 2: Staying local here in Indianapolis. Nick Cross, twenty four year

549
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 2: old safety who had a real good year last year.

550
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 3: Probably my favorite of the safety cruise I mentioned, you know,

551
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,680
Speaker 3: and I don't know that had cost a ton. He's

552
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 3: only twenty four, right, I mean you go look up

553
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,119
Speaker 3: like his combine numbers that are really really good. He

554
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 3: plays fast, He's not as much of a true center

555
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 3: fielder as we've been used to, but I think that's

556
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 3: gonna be an interchangeable role under this defensive coordinator.

557
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 2: Sticking with safety, seems like Cameron curl is out in

558
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 2: LA after they extend Did Quinton Lake Carnel Lake's son, Yeah,

559
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 2: Cameron Craol twenty seven years old.

560
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, a little older than the other safeties. He wouldn't

561
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 3: be in my four or five list. He's a good player.

562
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,439
Speaker 3: I'd rather get younger. He's not a great athlete, and

563
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 3: he's more strong than free although that line gets blurred

564
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 3: more and more every year.

565
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 2: You know, let's stay with the safeties here. Another twenty

566
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 2: seven year old Jakwan Brisker. Maybe he's like an enforcer.

567
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,160
Speaker 2: You want somebody more that can move.

568
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's some injury stuff there with him too.

569
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 3: A lot his flashes are great, But I don't think.

570
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 2: If it doesn't if there's not a reunion with Isaac Sayamalu,

571
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,159
Speaker 2: would you be interested in a guy like Wyatt Teller,

572
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 2: another veteran offensive lineman.

573
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,919
Speaker 3: Maybe there's a couple of guards on this list that

574
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 3: I would be interested in, because I do think it's

575
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 3: important to have one veteran in that room. And not

576
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 3: not that Fraser and these guys are now puppies anymore.

577
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 3: They've started a lot of games. But I think having

578
00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 3: the older guy.

579
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 2: On the rookie contract now that they've started, you know,

580
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 2: twenty some games, thirty some games, those guys, it's great,

581
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 2: but they're still all on their rookie deals.

582
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wouldn't mind one elder statesman and draft others

583
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 3: as well. Just O line in general, tell her would

584
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,640
Speaker 3: be fine. There's others I like a little better.

585
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 2: Back to the corner department here, Nan Shawan Wright out

586
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 2: of Chicago.

587
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 3: Coming off a really productive ye a ton of.

588
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 2: Picks twenty seven, so he's still a few years away

589
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:28,880
Speaker 2: from that thirty year old mark that we talk about

590
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 2: with corner six'.

591
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:35,959
Speaker 3: FOUR i, mean he's, strange you, know attributes good, Player

592
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 3: i'm not SURE i trust the one year out of nowhere.

593
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 2: Production Corderill flott out of The, giants just twenty five years.

594
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,199
Speaker 3: Old, Yeah i'm more of a, slot but he could do.

595
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 3: BOTH i would understand. IT i, mean, IDEALLY i think

596
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 3: he'd be a really strong third, corner but that's not

597
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 3: how the league. Works usually you don't have that.

598
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 2: Luxury what about Another Seattle Seahawk Joshua job.

599
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:03,679
Speaker 3: Really As simon, sounds, smart quality, player not real, Dynamic

600
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 3: but if you're gonna Give porter big money and you

601
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 3: just want somebody solid on the other, SIDE i think

602
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 3: he'd fit. That Bill.

603
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 2: Monteric brown also just twenty seven years, old coming off

604
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,360
Speaker 2: a good year With, jacksonville coming.

605
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 3: Off a real good. YEAR i don't know as much

606
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 3: about him because he was like a seventh round pick

607
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 3: or an undrafted. Guy he doesn't have the pedigree and

608
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,719
Speaker 3: the background that everybody else would have in this, group

609
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,880
Speaker 3: So i'd like to learn. MORE i wonder what he had.

610
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 3: Cost but definitely a sending and the age you're looking.

611
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 2: For same, team same, position, relatively same, age just a year.

612
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 2: Younger Greg newsom.

613
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 3: Tough one because a couple of years, AGO i mean

614
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 3: The browns drafted.

615
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 2: The Brown SAY i thought he was first Round.

616
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah and he's, long he's built more like an outside.

617
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 3: Guy The browns that didn't really have any other slot,

618
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 3: options so he had to do. That he was okay

619
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 3: that there was that weird corner for corner swap between

620
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 3: The browns and The, jags and neither one really flourished

621
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 3: in their new. Home he's had some up and down,

622
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 3: moments but he's smart and he's got the.

623
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 2: Trades another safety, Here Jalen, thompson just finishing out his

624
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 2: third the three year contract with The Arizona. Cardinals twenty

625
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 2: eight years SO i.

626
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 3: Think he's a smidge older than i'd. Prefer i'd love

627
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 3: to get like a twenty five year old.

628
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 2: Safety i'm trying to see if there's any of those

629
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 2: left on the. LIST i don't think there, is but

630
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 2: we we. Know uh oh, no Not Kevin. Byer he's

631
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 2: not Twenty, nah HE'S i don't Think i'm not doing.

632
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 2: Much he's much longer in the. Tooth, yeah, MAN i

633
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 2: think that's it in Terms Oh reid blanket ship twenty

634
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 2: seven years.

635
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 3: Old, YEAH i Think i'm looking for a better.

636
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 2: OUT i Think i'm with you On mulli, player but,

637
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 2: Yeah I'm i'm certainly with you on that. One but

638
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 2: that does it for kind of the positions of need

639
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 2: that we've earmarked for The. Steelers Calvin austin on this

640
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 2: list at one, hundred.

641
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 3: So is it Just ciamalu And austin in the top.

642
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 2: One Aaron, rodgers he was like, Sixty, OKAY i want

643
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 2: to say six one something in that range, there.

644
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 3: He's sort of a asterisk by.

645
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 2: Him Kenneth ganewell sixty, Five oh, okay, yeah And rogers

646
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:07,479
Speaker 2: was sixty.

647
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 3: Two, okay let's.

648
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 2: See but, YEAH i think THAT i think that about

649
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 2: does it for that. Conversation that's that's interesting to, Me.

650
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 2: Matt so it seems like, we've, uh we've nailed down

651
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 2: the two in the secondary that if it comes to,

652
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 2: it you would like to add Safety Nick Cross he's

653
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 2: twenty four years, old Former indianapolis cult And Alone taylor for.

654
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 3: FORMER seconthb two targets as well as The chiefs safety

655
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 3: two that we talked. About there was also a young

656
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 3: Pop Brian.

657
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 2: Cook.

658
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 3: Cook, yeah, yeah athletes that are.

659
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 2: Young, hey we like we like. That we will take that,

660
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 2: certainly and especially in that, secondary WHERE i think you're.

661
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 2: Right you've been harping on it for a long, time

662
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 2: But i'm definitely on the same page as. You you

663
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 2: you want some, speed you need some speed in that.

664
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 2: Secondary and, uh and we'll see if they.

665
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 3: Draft the third round safety or corner and their year,

666
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 3: Away i'd totally understand, it especially If pierre's in the

667
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 3: mix or something like. That if they can. Run.

668
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah it's like border, man you talk about. It

669
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 2: we were joking about. It The mendoza line of your

670
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 2: quarterback has to be at least this, athletic, yeah, right right.

671
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 2: Right it's kind of a similar conversation to the.

672
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 3: Secondary, yeah and it's not. ALWAYS i just think the

673
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 3: way that this secondary is built, NOW i need somebody that's.

674
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 2: Faster, remember negotiating window Opens, Monday march, ninth that's thirteen

675
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 2: days from. NOW Nfl free agency officially Opens, Wednesday march,

676
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 2: thirteenth a week from. Tomorrow, yeah week. TOMORROW i was

677
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 2: thinking about that one a little too. Much when we

678
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 2: come back on the other, side we'll close down the

679
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 2: second hour with another fun. Interview Kew hughes covers The.

680
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 2: Raiders he's going to join us to talk about New

681
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 2: steelers defensive Coordinator Patrick, graham who of course spent the

682
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 2: last four seasons In Las, vegas and we'll obviously pick

683
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 2: his brain a little bit On Fernando mendoza in the

684
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 2: future of that organization as. Well all that and more

685
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 2: as we roll along live here On radio Row Wes,

686
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 2: Shuler Matt. Williamson it's The Drive Steelers Nation radio on

687
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 2: The Steelers Audio.

688
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 1: Network this is live cover each of the twenty twenty

689
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 1: SIX Nfl combine On Steelers Nation, radio a part of

690
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: The Steelers Audio.

691
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 2: Network back On Radio row here it is The drive

692
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 2: on location twenty twenty SIX Nfl Scouting, combine our spiritual

693
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 2: home at the end Of february every year here on

694
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 2: The Steelers Audio. Network Wes, Shuler Matt, williamson it is The.

695
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 2: Drive this would Normally matt be our final segment of The,

696
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 2: drive but we do have the bonus Out yeah, yeah

697
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 2: coming up next where we'll hear From Omar kahn and

698
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 2: discuss specifically with The STEELERS gm discussed, today but that

699
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 2: is kind of the theme of. Today different head coaches

700
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 2: and general managers either or is required to speak at the.

701
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 2: Combine so that's how it.

702
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 3: Works not just, gms, right, yes either of YOUR.

703
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 2: Gm mostly, gms but for a few it is the head.

704
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 2: Coaches one in several head coaches walking, around, yes. Yeah

705
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 2: and one of those who just spoke on the, Podium Nick,

706
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 2: sirianni of, course head coach of The Philadelphia, eagles and

707
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 2: he was asked IF Aj brown will be back next,

708
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 2: season and he, SAID i can't guarantee aj will be

709
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 2: back next.

710
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 3: Year, wow that's pretty telling for coach.

711
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 2: Speak normally you, expect oh, yeah we Love aja, everything.

712
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 3: We hope it works, out we want to have him.

713
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 3: Back he's part of our. Plans blah blah. Blah, YES

714
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 3: i bet he. Moves i've thought that all, Along but

715
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 3: just the reading that makes you think he could be.

716
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 2: HAD i think, SO i think. So and it seems

717
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 2: like it's been heading towards that direction for a long

718
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 2: time between those two, parties and maybe this is this

719
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 2: is finally the off season that it does. Transpire but

720
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 2: as you, know one of our favorite parts about being

721
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 2: live here On Radio row In indianapolis all week is

722
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 2: the awesome guests that we get to.

723
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 3: Discuss already good.

724
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 2: Ones we've already gotten a couple of good ones and another.

725
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 2: One matt AND i took the time this morning to

726
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 2: talk TO Q. Myers he is the host of The

727
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 2: Locked On raiders. Podcast he's also the program director For

728
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 2: Las Vegas. Sports he is very doubt, in very dialed

729
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 2: in with The raiders, organization and so of course we

730
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 2: wanted to talk to him About Fernando. Mendoza of course

731
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 2: we wanted to talk to him about New steelers defensive

732
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 2: Coordinator Patrick, graham who was with The raiders organization before

733
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 2: being added To mike McCarthy's. Staff due to just some

734
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 2: of the timing stuff we talked TO q. Earlier you

735
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 2: AND i here's our conversation WITH Q hughes on The,

736
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 2: raiders On Patrick, graham On Fernando. Mendoza back inside The

737
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 2: Indiana Convention, center and we are pleased to have a

738
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 2: very fun guest with us here to close down this

739
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 2: OUR Q Myers Las Vegas Sports Network locked On raiders. PODCAST.

740
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 2: Q good to see you as, Always thanks for taking the.

741
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 2: Time it's great to be with, you.

742
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 3: Guys.

743
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 4: Man this is, fun right first day of, Really i'm

744
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 4: psyched the combine and we're inside so it's warm and

745
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 4: we're not outside where it's. Cold i'm not built for

746
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 4: this cold man to go for.

747
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 2: IT i, mean we live in. It but we're the

748
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 2: first gas built for it.

749
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,399
Speaker 3: Either yeah it's, Jilly yeah it's windy. Here it's. Stupid it's.

750
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 3: Stupid you're our first guest that's not The STEELERS. Gm

751
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 3: so congrats there you got many of them lined up

752
00:34:59,040 --> 00:34:59,839
Speaker 3: there you. Go i'll take.

753
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 2: It so we obviously want to talk to you plenty

754
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 2: About Patrick.

755
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 3: Graham, yeah why would we bring A raiders guy, on

756
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 3: let's talk.

757
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 2: Coordinator but just real, quick before we get to, him

758
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 2: we got to get your thoughts On Fernando. Mendoza.

759
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 3: Yah.

760
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 2: Easy first, overall pick turn the phones off or you

761
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 2: may be. Listening just the what's the vibe Around mendoza

762
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 2: in the?

763
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 4: ORGANIZATION i think you always listen just to, listen but

764
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 4: you don't have to, react. RIGHT i watch, commercials but

765
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 4: don't MEAN i go buy every, product, right you know

766
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 4: WHAT i? Mean LIKE i, mean it's JUST i think

767
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 4: you do it and if someone just wows you with something,

768
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 4: crazy then maybe you really think about. It but, look

769
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 4: The raiders have been in a position for a long

770
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 4: time where they haven't had their. Quarterback and even when they,

771
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 4: Had Derek carr would say twenty, sixteen car was the

772
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 4: best version of. Him once he broke his, ankle he

773
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,240
Speaker 4: wasn't that, guy and so they were trying to find

774
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 4: a better version of. Him AND i think they have

775
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 4: an opportunity. Now Now they've got to make a lot

776
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 4: of good. Decisions they got to build around, him and

777
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 4: they've got to put protection around and playmakers but it's a,

778
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 4: step and it's it's one of the most important, steps

779
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 4: if not the most important step in building a. Team

780
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 4: so you gotta go Get Fananda.

781
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 3: Mendoza so this is going to lead into The Patrick graham.

782
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 3: Conversation BUT i have great respect For pete carroll career

783
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 3: and all those. Things BUT i didn't think it was

784
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,800
Speaker 3: a very well coached team at all last. Year, no

785
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 3: nor DO i think it was a very talented. Team

786
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 3: BUT i actually, think you, know The carrol and his

787
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,839
Speaker 3: staff and the offensive line Coach, son you, know really

788
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 3: held things back that they maybe could have got more

789
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 3: out of that. Group BUT i think the total opposite

790
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 3: of the, defense BECAUSE i Think graham is really specialized

791
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 3: on here's not very good, ingredients, right and he gives

792
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 3: you a very edible. Meal he does he.

793
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 4: DOES i have a lot of respect For patrick DAM

794
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 4: i think he did a lot with very, little as you,

795
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,439
Speaker 4: MENTIONED i really, Do and a lot Of raider fans

796
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 4: didn't appreciate. Him they'll tell you right, now Cut i'm

797
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 4: glad he's out of, here And i'm, like, okay, RIGHT i,

798
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 4: MEAN i think he did some really good, things and,

799
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 4: really when The raiders started to turn their defense. AROUND

800
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 4: i want to say in twenty twenty, three earlier in the,

801
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 4: SEASON i kept telling, EVERYONE i think they're only giving

802
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 4: up sixteen points a. Game you should be able to

803
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 4: win games like. That, YEAH i, mean you're in. Games

804
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 4: their offense just was, terrible and so then everyone started

805
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,359
Speaker 4: to see that their defense played. Better and then when

806
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 4: McDaniels got fired And apiz took over as the, interim

807
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 4: then you saw the defense really tick up a notch

808
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 4: and you thought in twenty twenty four their defense was

809
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 4: going to be really, good and they got played with.

810
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 4: Injuries Christian wilkins went down after five, Games max went

811
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 4: down after twelve, Games Malcolm coones was injured in. Preseason

812
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 4: like it was just so many things, happen and So

813
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 4: Patrick graham was once again put in a position where

814
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 4: he didn't really have dominant players and he had to

815
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 4: try to figure it. Out and for the most part

816
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,839
Speaker 4: he's done. That he's it's never gonna Be, wow it's

817
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 4: never going to be The seahawks defense that we just

818
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 4: saw win The Super, bowl but it's going to give

819
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 4: you a chance.

820
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 3: To win, games especially better player.

821
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 4: Facts you know WHAT i, mean thank, YOU i, mean

822
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 4: other Than.

823
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 3: Crosby i'm not sure how Many raiders would start for The.

824
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 4: Steelers, no exactly, right an, HELL i might as well

825
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,280
Speaker 4: be out there on the corner of, position and believe,

826
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 4: Me i'm giving it.

827
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 3: UP.

828
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 2: Q what can what Can steelers fans? Expect? Like is

829
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 2: there a calling card of A Patrick graham defense or

830
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 2: has it just been forget having an, Identity we're going

831
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:50,879
Speaker 2: to attack you and what's best on a week to week.

832
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 4: Basis, yeah he has a calling, card but he also

833
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 4: understands who he has with, him the, personnel so he's

834
00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 4: able to adjust to.

835
00:37:58,600 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 3: It.

836
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 4: Now the one thing that is concerning for him is

837
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 4: that a lot of times the middle of the field

838
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 4: will be. Open that was always my big, bugaboo like

839
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 4: why in the world is the middle of the field wide?

840
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 4: Open but that would be open more times than, not

841
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 4: so that's a. Concern but outside.

842
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 3: Of, that he's mostly single high.

843
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 4: Guys he's mostly single. High you, know he doesn't. Mind

844
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 4: he likes to be able to use bump and, run

845
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 4: but you got to have the corners to do it.

846
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 4: Right so sometimes you got to protect these guys with

847
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 4: zonn and so he did that And Pete carroll and

848
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 4: him they tried to collaborate their offense last or their

849
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 4: defense last, year and that didn't. WORK i, Mean i'm

850
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 4: talking to players in the locker, Room they're, like, yeah

851
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 4: WE'RE sti trying to figure this this collaboration thing. Out

852
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 4: so that was like week. Fifteen i'm, like, well this is,

853
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,280
Speaker 4: over you know WHAT i. Mean if you haven't figured

854
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 4: it out by, now you're not gonna figure it. Out

855
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 4: so it's a lot of that kind of, combination you,

856
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 4: know going on with. Them BUT i mean he, does

857
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 4: LIKE i, said for the most, part he will his

858
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,919
Speaker 4: defense will keep you in. Games and like you, said

859
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,280
Speaker 4: if they have really good, players which obviously These dealers,

860
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:53,320
Speaker 4: do they'll be able to.

861
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 3: Execute one thing that stood out to me from last,

862
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 3: year even though it didn't go, great AND i think

863
00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 3: there was a little More carol influence THAN i would have,

864
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 3: loved the explosive play rate was really really good on,

865
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 3: defense and that's so key in TODAY'S nfl for, sure for, sure.

866
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 4: And that's one of the big. Things and he wants to,

867
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 4: obviously as every team, does want to create, turnovers and

868
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 4: he harps on turnovers and practice and he's trying to

869
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 4: get him and The raiders just couldn't create. Turnovers AND

870
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 4: i mean there was times when he was almost cussing at,

871
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 4: me and when we're at the podium asking questions Because i'm, like,

872
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 4: well how do you get these guys to do get some?

873
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 4: Turnovers he's, like, Man i'm tired of talking about, him you.

874
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 4: Know and he wasn't mad at, me but he was

875
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 4: mad at the situation because they just couldn't generate enough big. Plays,

876
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 4: defensively they didn't allow the big, plays which is, great

877
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 4: but they also didn't create the big. Plays so that

878
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 4: was the. Frustration they tried to get home with the front.

879
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 4: Four they don't try to blitz too, often, right and

880
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 4: the linebackers tried to do the best they can with

881
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 4: the space eaters in, front trying to you, know peel

882
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 4: off the blocks and go and make. Tackles and for

883
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 4: the most, part guys like E rob who you know

884
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 4: really well he Landed, roberts you, know those kind of.

885
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,879
Speaker 4: Guys Robert spulane also a guy that did really well

886
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,760
Speaker 4: for The. Raiders they did good from the linebacker, position

887
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 4: just being sure tackled and being able to get off those.

888
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 3: Blocks not the rangiest, guys but not the.

889
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 4: Rangest, guys but they can get off the.

890
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 2: Blocks when you talk about kind of how he likes

891
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 2: to deploy his secondary single high bump and run when you.

892
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 2: Can we've had a lot of conversation Around Jalen ramsey

893
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 2: and in him this. Offseason and do you keep him

894
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 2: on the roster as a full time? Safety do you

895
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 2: try and still use him as like the big nickel? Type?

896
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 2: Yeah do you think he's a fit in The Patrick graham?

897
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 4: DEFENSE i think he could. BE i would put him

898
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,839
Speaker 4: there's a couple. Options i'd put him at either either

899
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 4: at the safety position or even put him in the

900
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 4: big nickel. Position why, not, RIGHT i, mean and that's

901
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 4: kind of how they tried to use and Now i'm

902
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 4: forgetting his, Name Jeremy. Chin they tried to use him

903
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 4: in the in the big nickel type. Role, yeah but

904
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 4: they had him at the safety, role kind of have

905
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 4: him like a hybrid guy that could just run around

906
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 4: the field and make some. PLAYS i Think Jayleen ramsey

907
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 4: still has that ability and even better than A Jeremy chin.

908
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 4: Would SO i think that that would be a really

909
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 4: good chess. Piece and that's the THING i mean this,

910
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 4: GUY i, mean he's all football all the, Time like

911
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 4: he's think of football all the time and always trying

912
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 4: to come up with something new and. Creative and you know,

913
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 4: what what can he what is he? Seeing what is

914
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 4: the trends that he's, seeing and how he can defeat.

915
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 4: Him so he's a very, smart sharp. Guy So i've

916
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,320
Speaker 4: always respected What Patrick graham has to do when he's

917
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 4: doing his.

918
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 3: Defenses, YOU i know you need to, run you're busy.

919
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 3: Too but there's two names you brought up THAT i

920
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 3: just wanted to mention real. Quick it seemed like they

921
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 3: gave Mac crosby a lot of freedom at the line of,

922
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 3: scrimmage which is rare for a defensive. Lineman could that

923
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:22,720
Speaker 3: be a watt thing In? Pittsburgh and a strange question

924
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 3: for you is A Christian wilkins, Situation LIKE i do

925
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 3: you have any insight to? That because no idea what's

926
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:29,359
Speaker 3: going on with the.

927
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 4: SITUATION i think that there's a hearing that's going to

928
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 4: be coming up pretty soon before the before the league

929
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 4: year opens, up to find out what money they owe

930
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 4: what money they don't owe.

931
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 3: Him i'd love The steelers to grab him for nothing right.

932
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 3: NOW i, mean if it's all, CLEAR i don't know

933
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 3: if you. Do, yeah that's What i've.

934
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 4: Heard there's been some weird things that were happening that

935
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 4: maybe you don't want in the locker. Room But i'm

936
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 4: pretty telling he didn't get picked up, yet thank. YOU i,

937
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 4: MEAN i, know and a talented dude like, that that

938
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 4: tells you all you need to. Know so in a

939
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 4: very forgiving, league the fact that he wasn't picked up

940
00:41:58,680 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 4: by anyone.

941
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 3: Might be the answer the.

942
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 4: Question, yeah, exactly So, Max, max and he does get that.

943
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 4: FREEDOM i think T. J wat's gonna really Like Patrick,

944
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 4: graham AND i Know patrickkrant is gonna love T. J

945
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 4: watt because he makes more. PLAY i MEAN i say

946
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 4: this all the. Time max is a tier below in my, OPINION.

947
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 4: Tj Miles, micah those guys make different. Below, yeah, yeah right,

948
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 4: below which is still a great. Level don't get me.

949
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 4: WRONG a lot Of raider fans get mad at me

950
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 4: And i'm, like, No but T.

951
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:29,280
Speaker 5: J watt they come up with the big strip, sacks

952
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 5: they come up with the, interceptions they come up with

953
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,280
Speaker 5: the fumble, recoveries they they come up with those different

954
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 5: making plays that that gives them a chance to to

955
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 5: really be.

956
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 4: Special so that THAT i think they're gonna do really.

957
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 3: WELL i think that's a good. Fit, yeah, facts, facts big.

958
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 2: Facts, Yes Hugh myers locked On raiders podcast kind enough

959
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 2: to lend us some of his time here On Radio.

960
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:46,879
Speaker 2: Row good catching you up with you as.

961
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 4: Always running around here like. Crazy this is what we,

962
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,800
Speaker 4: love right, exactly that's exactly, right looking forward to.

963
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 2: It thanks, Man we appreciate. It Hugh meyer's there with,

964
00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 2: Us matt AND i On Radio row here early about

965
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 2: his dialed in with the radio or with The raiders

966
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 2: part of me as you can.

967
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 3: Be, oh, yeah he was a good.

968
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 2: Dude we met, him met him out here a few years,

969
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 2: ago and, yeah we're excited to get all his thoughts

970
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 2: On Patrick graham and it sounds pretty. On, yeah LIKE

971
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 2: i thought about floating to. Him the also the hypothetical

972
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 2: that you AND i had, discussed like if you're The

973
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 2: raiders and The ravens or The bengals come knocking With

974
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 2: Joe burrow Or Lamar jackson or something like. That but

975
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 2: the way he the way he talked About, mendoza made

976
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 2: it seem like it was a done.

977
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 3: DEAL i tend to think so, Too BUT i MEAN

978
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 3: i did this on another, podcast like what could The

979
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 3: jets offer to make you move off of? Them AND

980
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 3: i came up with a scenario that you could and there's.

981
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 2: Always A godfather offer out there. Somewhere that's two hours

982
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 2: in the. Books bonus. Hour on the other, side we

983
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 2: will hear What Omar khan had to discuss today and

984
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 2: we will. Continue we've got some interesting comments From Adam

985
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 2: schefter on the future Of Aaron. Rodgers oh, really that

986
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 2: we'll get to in our number. Three so plenty to

987
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 2: go in the bonus hour of The drive live here

988
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 2: On radio Row West, Wheeler Matt. Williamson It's Steelers Nation

989
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