WEBVTT - Ep7: Don’t Mess with Texas 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:02.840 Class Action is a production of I Heart Radio and 0:00:02.960 --> 0:00:07.880 Sound Argument. This has happened more than once in my life. 0:00:07.880 --> 0:00:10.160 By the way I mean this has happened many times 0:00:10.280 --> 0:00:13.119 is growing up. My father got arrested in Dade County, 0:00:13.119 --> 0:00:17.040 Florida by the Sheriff's apartment because he didn't speak English 0:00:17.040 --> 0:00:19.079 well enough for the deputy to understand him. And he 0:00:19.120 --> 0:00:22.079 said that he said, the reason why the arrested my 0:00:22.120 --> 0:00:25.640 father was because he didn't understand him. That was the reason. 0:00:27.160 --> 0:00:29.240 On the day that I graduated from law school, I 0:00:29.360 --> 0:00:33.080 was my class speaker. We had run out of time. 0:00:33.680 --> 0:00:35.560 We were supposed to go to a lunch. We never 0:00:35.600 --> 0:00:38.199 made it to the lunch. My kids hadn't eaton and 0:00:38.240 --> 0:00:39.839 now we have to go to the convention Center for 0:00:39.880 --> 0:00:44.199 the university wide graduation. So we walked down to the 0:00:44.200 --> 0:00:47.520 Convention Center in Baltimore, and we walked to a Burger 0:00:47.600 --> 0:00:50.400 King that was between the law school and there. And 0:00:50.479 --> 0:00:52.400 remember my mother. I could hear my mother at the 0:00:52.440 --> 0:00:55.840 counter or trying to order, and this woman at the counter, 0:00:56.200 --> 0:01:00.000 I could hear her say, hey, bitch, if you can't 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:03.680 speak English, get out of my fucking line. The most 0:01:03.720 --> 0:01:06.280 important day of my life is my mother witnessing me 0:01:06.360 --> 0:01:09.520 graduated from law school and on that day I still 0:01:09.560 --> 0:01:15.240 had to hear that that and events like that really 0:01:15.319 --> 0:01:18.880 drive me and you don't forget them. And I think 0:01:18.920 --> 0:01:21.640 that's why I'm driven to come to a school like this, 0:01:22.640 --> 0:01:26.040 which is a school that has a lot of kids 0:01:26.040 --> 0:01:33.120 who are like me. We're back with our St. Mary's 0:01:33.200 --> 0:01:39.000 University team in San Antonio, Andy Viscarra, Jasmine Olegaene Mariella 0:01:39.040 --> 0:01:42.360 and Sinas and Cold Dobbula. They are the first to 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:47.320 admit they beat themselves in their last competition. But today 0:01:47.880 --> 0:01:53.280 is a new day. YEAHI This is Ajlunam, the Assistant 0:01:53.280 --> 0:01:56.720 Dean of Advocacy at St. Mary's University School of Law. 0:01:58.120 --> 0:02:00.880 So right now we're at the pre day or we 0:02:00.880 --> 0:02:04.440 want our team to be together for bonding and focus. 0:02:05.120 --> 0:02:08.560 It's where we come together, where you have a drink, 0:02:08.600 --> 0:02:11.639 where you have a nice meal, and you you get 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:17.280 an opportunity to bond. I'm feeling really good today. Every 0:02:17.480 --> 0:02:19.919 I feel like we got out our nerves during Battle 0:02:19.960 --> 0:02:22.840 of Experts. We really saw we need to improve on 0:02:23.040 --> 0:02:32.400 and I think we're gonna do God willing pretty good. Mary's. Honestly, 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:34.239 I can't really add to that, we're gonna We're gonna 0:02:34.240 --> 0:02:35.880 do good. We all know what we're doing. I gotta 0:02:35.919 --> 0:02:39.519 do it well. You never even get nervous. Nervous show it. 0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:43.320 I know how to keep that look at him. I 0:02:43.320 --> 0:02:45.959 can do that. I got anxiety. I learned that. I 0:02:46.040 --> 0:02:50.679 learned how to that a long time ago. This is 0:02:50.760 --> 0:03:07.240 class action and I'm Katie Fang. This is episode seven. 0:03:08.040 --> 0:03:17.840 Don't mess with Texas. So let me set this up. 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:21.079 The best in Texas competition is going to be all 0:03:21.200 --> 0:03:24.280 Texas schools. There's ten law schools in the great state 0:03:24.320 --> 0:03:28.320 of Texas, Texas. A and M, Texas Tech and St. 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:31.880 Mary's are putting it together so that all the schools 0:03:31.880 --> 0:03:35.120 in Texas can't compete. And so what we did is 0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:39.119 we said we want this group of four people who 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:43.040 had this great experience at a well run tournament but 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:46.000 a bad outcome. The difference though, is that we're gonna 0:03:46.040 --> 0:03:49.960 have Mariella instead of just playing a witness, she earned 0:03:49.960 --> 0:03:54.440 the right to pick up an advocate spot. So she's 0:03:54.440 --> 0:03:57.640 going to be the closer on the plaintiff side of 0:03:57.680 --> 0:04:00.440 the case. And that's a lot of responsibility. We're giving 0:04:00.440 --> 0:04:03.560 it too. Well, in her first competition, but we want 0:04:03.600 --> 0:04:05.920 to give her that. We think she's earned it something 0:04:05.920 --> 0:04:07.800 else in my life. I am freaking out a little bit, 0:04:08.480 --> 0:04:10.600 just a little bit, but I'll be fine. Wait, why 0:04:10.640 --> 0:04:13.680 I am one because it's my first competition where I'm 0:04:13.680 --> 0:04:17.120 actually competing as an advocate Brianna. Plus it's seven different 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:21.200 memes of how stress she was last night. Everyone still 0:04:21.240 --> 0:04:24.000 on top of it. We bounced back from boeing, We're 0:04:24.040 --> 0:04:27.960 going well. They kept us together, thankfully. Um, so we 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:31.120 all know how each other works. This is a civil case. 0:04:31.480 --> 0:04:33.480 So Cole and I are the defense and Mariella and 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:38.160 Jasmine are the plaintase. The case is pretty short and sweet, 0:04:38.320 --> 0:04:41.479 like very very short, like my witness and the person 0:04:41.520 --> 0:04:44.680 that I'm crossing, Like it's two pages double space of 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:47.400 their statement. So it's like, okay, it's really just how 0:04:47.440 --> 0:04:49.000 you're going to argue the stuff. There's not a whole 0:04:49.040 --> 0:04:50.680 lot of facts. They're just working with what you got, 0:04:51.960 --> 0:04:54.640 your honor. We do not intend to go into damages 0:04:54.720 --> 0:04:57.440 during today's trial. We will not going to go into 0:04:57.480 --> 0:05:01.960 any emotional or monetary damn. It is we are burden 0:05:02.000 --> 0:05:06.160 today is to prove that Mr Williams suffered a permanent injury, 0:05:06.480 --> 0:05:11.440 that being quadriplegia, ex quadriplegia. What are you saying? Quadriplegia? 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:14.919 But that's like not a real air. You need to 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:20.000 remind me that. Okay, say again, quadriplegia, quadriplegia, quadriplegia. Why 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:21.919 did you tell me this four weeks ago? Because I 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:23.520 thought you knew. I thought even that's just the way 0:05:23.520 --> 0:05:32.640 you said it, quadriplegia, quadriplegia, quadriplegia. Okay, Mr Williams suffers 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:37.840 from quadriplegia. Are expert today will explain what Williams is 0:05:37.839 --> 0:05:43.599 a quadriplegic. You don't pronounce that. I know. Our expert 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:48.159 witness today will explain what quadriplegia is and how Mr 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:52.800 Williams said is what quadriplegia is, and how Mr Williams 0:05:52.800 --> 0:05:58.520 suffering suffers from it. My name is Andy Viscara. You 0:05:58.640 --> 0:06:00.680 catch my mom on a dacious made me shall command 0:06:01.360 --> 0:06:04.040 and I'm a three. I'll here at St. Mary's and 0:06:04.120 --> 0:06:06.720 yeah I'm trial team captain. Law school is like a 0:06:06.800 --> 0:06:10.440 very competitive place full of very competitive people individually. So 0:06:10.600 --> 0:06:12.520 take the pandemic out of it, and you're already dealing 0:06:12.600 --> 0:06:15.440 with like how do you get people to put the 0:06:15.480 --> 0:06:18.719 team over themselves in their own personal ambitions? How do 0:06:18.760 --> 0:06:20.200 you get them to see that the team is more 0:06:20.200 --> 0:06:22.640 important than that, and like if they thrive, I thrive, 0:06:22.680 --> 0:06:26.560 and if I thrive, they thrive. We are practicing. We 0:06:26.640 --> 0:06:31.160 need to get through cold opening your posing counsel. Ladies 0:06:31.160 --> 0:06:37.480 and gentlemen, the jury, please accord our circumstances determine our conditions. 0:06:38.279 --> 0:06:42.520 The decisions that we make at any given moment can 0:06:42.640 --> 0:06:48.159 change our lives for better or for worse. When things 0:06:48.200 --> 0:06:50.160 go bad for us, we try and look back at 0:06:50.160 --> 0:06:53.479 what happened, try and justify our actions, try and justify 0:06:53.480 --> 0:07:01.000 our decisions. But the fact is hindsize and that is 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:06.640 what's happening in today's case. Chris Williams, the plaintiff. It's 0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:10.560 looking back at what happened, trying to explain things, trying 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:16.160 to explain away his own actions that led to his injuries. Right, 0:07:16.960 --> 0:07:19.360 what you're doing is really really good. I want you 0:07:19.400 --> 0:07:21.040 to go back to what you said, and that's what's 0:07:21.040 --> 0:07:24.040 happening today's case. To go back to that part. Okay, 0:07:25.360 --> 0:07:29.600 you said, next, that's what's happening sday's case softer. Okay, 0:07:30.360 --> 0:07:33.880 try it. That's what's happening today's case. Paul's a little 0:07:33.880 --> 0:07:38.400 bit softer. Chris Williams, He's trying to re tell the 0:07:38.520 --> 0:07:44.840 story of what actually strong. At this point in the season, 0:07:45.240 --> 0:07:48.280 the team has spent more time with each other than 0:07:48.320 --> 0:07:52.440 with their own families. They've developed a kind of sibling dynamic. 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:57.680 Andy's the big, bossy sister, Jasmine the moody middle child, 0:07:58.160 --> 0:08:02.000 Mariella is the smart little sister, and Cole, well, he's 0:08:02.040 --> 0:08:07.760 the serious brother. I tend to be much more straightforward, 0:08:07.840 --> 0:08:10.680 kind of head through the wall kind of thing, rather 0:08:10.760 --> 0:08:13.840 than being creative about it, whereas Andy would be much 0:08:13.880 --> 0:08:16.480 more creative, much more artistic. And so I've learned how to, 0:08:17.320 --> 0:08:19.960 i guess, get in touch more of my personality and 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:23.320 not hiding in as much. Same thing with Jasmine. Jasmine 0:08:23.400 --> 0:08:25.360 kind of I think a middle ground between me and 0:08:25.680 --> 0:08:29.360 Andy in terms of how outgoing we are. Just hanging 0:08:29.400 --> 0:08:34.120 around them has taught me how to show myself a 0:08:34.120 --> 0:08:37.520 bit more um whenever I've always been much more reserved 0:08:37.559 --> 0:08:41.559 and private. I'm starting to notice that I'm picking up 0:08:41.600 --> 0:08:45.760 some of Andy's mannerisms just in life, but just hanging 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:48.640 out with her from so much, but I'm really thankful 0:08:48.679 --> 0:08:51.040 for that opportunity just because I feel like it did 0:08:51.080 --> 0:08:54.280 help me in the courtroom. I definitely know I've come 0:08:54.320 --> 0:08:57.520 a long way. I felt a lot more comfortable in 0:08:57.559 --> 0:09:01.199 front of that witness stand doing my cross examination specifically 0:09:01.240 --> 0:09:03.719 than I did in the summer. Yeah, Tuesday, we had 0:09:03.720 --> 0:09:06.320 a practice and Andy was like, y'all need to be 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:08.960 off paper for your directs and like we actually could 0:09:08.960 --> 0:09:11.280 do it. I was like, okay, like cool, like we 0:09:11.320 --> 0:09:14.360 can do this, like it's not not crazy. I think 0:09:14.400 --> 0:09:17.120 the biggest thing that I've learned from both Cool and 0:09:17.200 --> 0:09:21.559 Jasmine one was like I think I thought I knew 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:27.640 how to lead before I even became captain, and then 0:09:27.679 --> 0:09:29.400 you do, and then you're given this new team with 0:09:29.480 --> 0:09:33.240 these people that you've never worked with before, and you're like, 0:09:33.240 --> 0:09:35.000 how do I do it? Do I do it? Like this? 0:09:35.160 --> 0:09:39.360 Do I am? I? Heart? Am? I mean? But you know, 0:09:39.400 --> 0:09:41.319 like how do I get the outcome that I want? 0:09:41.360 --> 0:09:44.440 How do I be effective and pull us all together? 0:09:47.559 --> 0:09:50.160 And this is my desk. I just kind of a 0:09:50.240 --> 0:09:53.840 mess right now. You caught me in a moment, So 0:09:53.920 --> 0:09:56.640 I mean a lot of post it notes, every kind 0:09:56.640 --> 0:09:58.520 of post it note that you can imagine I have it, 0:09:58.960 --> 0:10:01.680 lots of different type of pens, lots of highlighters. Oh, 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:05.280 we've got a little fake little gavel. This is the 0:10:05.280 --> 0:10:07.800 firm that I've interned at this summer. It's the Rosenblat 0:10:07.840 --> 0:10:11.320 Law Firm here in San Antonio. And this is where 0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:18.320 everyone's hiding. I have the podcast mind where everyone this 0:10:18.480 --> 0:10:21.120 is Carrie in a Leanna and carry but not spilled 0:10:21.120 --> 0:10:24.680 the same way. And Melissa right while we have you all. 0:10:25.600 --> 0:10:32.959 How is Andy Doon? She's amazing personally, they're like under dressed, 0:10:33.000 --> 0:10:35.800 They're like, what do we say? From what I hear? 0:10:36.440 --> 0:10:39.880 Work wise, she's given amazing job, but then personality wise 0:10:39.920 --> 0:10:43.600 we would tiger every day. For sure. She's already done 0:10:43.880 --> 0:10:47.760 a deposition that she handled, prepared for and did the 0:10:47.840 --> 0:10:52.559 question and she does quite a bit of a lot 0:10:52.559 --> 0:10:56.000 of the discovery work and near you search for the 0:10:56.120 --> 0:11:02.400 litigation team. So she's done a good job. It's we're 0:11:02.400 --> 0:11:04.320 in the worm. This is one of my favorite rooms. 0:11:04.520 --> 0:11:07.000 So on the wall, we've got all different kinds of 0:11:07.040 --> 0:11:11.199 maps of Texas and the US. What used to do 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:15.520 Mexico so Texas slash the northern part of Mexico. I 0:11:15.600 --> 0:11:18.000 love telling people fun facts about Texas because a lot 0:11:18.040 --> 0:11:20.560 of people don't know it. So yeah, Texas has been 0:11:20.640 --> 0:11:27.880 under six different flags. First it was under Spanish, French, Mexican, 0:11:28.600 --> 0:11:34.719 let's see confederacy, it's republic, and then the US. I 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:38.800 think I'm a lot more calm here, which is weird. 0:11:39.400 --> 0:11:41.600 The weight is not that the way at school isn't real, 0:11:41.640 --> 0:11:44.480 but here it's like, these are real people, real cases, 0:11:44.760 --> 0:11:47.680 real money on the line, um, real people with real 0:11:47.679 --> 0:11:54.640 stories and real problems. Andy started for US right March 0:11:54.720 --> 0:11:59.240 March this year. Jennifer Belden Rosenblatt is a partner at 0:11:59.280 --> 0:12:03.199 the firm and Andy's supervising attorney. I want a job 0:12:03.240 --> 0:12:05.720 for her job on the spot. It is very rare 0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:12.240 to find somebody with the composure to be able to 0:12:12.920 --> 0:12:17.160 think ahead to the next question and to be able 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:21.199 to catch your breath when somebody's attacking you. Andy has 0:12:21.200 --> 0:12:24.960 that ability. I came out of law school and went 0:12:24.960 --> 0:12:29.600 directly to being a prosecutor. There is something about prosecution 0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:33.920 that is different than any other field. We call it 0:12:33.960 --> 0:12:37.560 getting your courtroom legs. So I asked her, what's your plan? 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:41.199 And I want her to go work for the d 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:44.040 a's office because i want her to have that experience. 0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:47.000 But I'm only going to let her go if she 0:12:47.200 --> 0:12:50.240 swears she's coming back, and otherwise I'm going to make 0:12:50.320 --> 0:12:52.160 sure she doesn't get a job at any DA's office 0:12:52.200 --> 0:12:56.440 in the in the surrounding two d square miles, and 0:12:56.840 --> 0:13:02.080 I'll just apologize to her mom. So I just have 0:13:02.120 --> 0:13:04.160 to move back in with you. You should love that. 0:13:08.840 --> 0:13:22.120 In Sanaton, you com Today is the Mexican Independence Day. 0:13:22.480 --> 0:13:26.400 We celebrate um September fifteen. At night, you say, we 0:13:26.480 --> 0:13:29.440 say we call it a grito because at Sena Club 0:13:29.640 --> 0:13:34.880 we shout, we scream out phrase va machico and up, 0:13:35.240 --> 0:13:37.080 which I will. I'm not saying you the one that's 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:40.360 gonna do it later on tonight after the mariatilis. I 0:13:40.400 --> 0:13:43.280 think it's important to celebrate your heritage and your roots 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:45.320 kind of where you come from, you know, and never 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:49.720 forgetting like the sacrifices that my parents specifically made to 0:13:49.760 --> 0:13:51.480 get us here to the United States to live a 0:13:51.520 --> 0:13:54.239 better life, you know. And even though we're proud of Americans, 0:13:54.440 --> 0:13:57.040 at the same time, we're also our heritage. We're proud 0:13:57.040 --> 0:13:58.800 of it as well, you know. And I think that's 0:13:58.840 --> 0:14:32.960 what's very important about abady. You're almost like this, m hm. 0:14:33.000 --> 0:14:37.960 That is the technical, correct way of doing it. Are 0:14:37.960 --> 0:14:43.720 you ready for the incorrect, non technical way to do it? 0:14:44.400 --> 0:14:47.480 Are you guys ready to handle that to say, yes, 0:14:49.040 --> 0:14:53.840 what's your birthday? I didn't like getting food stamps. I 0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:57.120 didn't like getting government food. I didn't like being laughed 0:14:57.160 --> 0:15:00.680 at by others. I mean we were poor. I got 0:15:00.720 --> 0:15:04.160 a full time job working sixty hours a week. At 0:15:04.200 --> 0:15:06.400 me I'm on a restaurant for one dollar an hour. 0:15:06.560 --> 0:15:10.200 When I was twelve years old, all that entire sixty 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:15.880 dollars went to my house doing it wrong, silly, right, silly. 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:17.320 In order to do it wrong, you have to be 0:15:17.360 --> 0:15:19.680 able to do it right. But well, you don't want 0:15:19.720 --> 0:15:21.520 is you don't want to be called out by a judge. 0:15:22.320 --> 0:15:25.680 As you progress, as you start practicing in front of judges, 0:15:26.440 --> 0:15:28.520 judges are going to know that you know how to 0:15:28.560 --> 0:15:31.280 do it. So what are they gonna do. They're gonna 0:15:31.280 --> 0:15:34.720 give you a little bit more leeway each time because 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:39.160 we want to get to the good stuff. Okay, so 0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:43.120 I want to You had asked me about my connection here. 0:15:44.360 --> 0:15:47.840 If we really take our time and teach people properly, 0:15:48.960 --> 0:15:53.000 then those people like me and my family the way 0:15:53.000 --> 0:15:57.800 that I grew up, we'd have better representation because there 0:15:57.800 --> 0:15:59.640 would be people out there that will be able to 0:15:59.680 --> 0:16:02.360 do it. So when I came here to this school 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:05.640 to visit it, when they were looking for the avocacy director, 0:16:06.120 --> 0:16:08.320 and I took a look around and I saw what 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:12.920 was here, it reminded me of home. It reminded me 0:16:13.000 --> 0:16:17.880 of my childhood. Okay, I think I'm sharing screen now? 0:16:17.960 --> 0:16:21.480 Is that right ahead? And not? Or two would be great? 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:26.960 It is great, Thank you. Inside his office at St. Mary's, 0:16:27.160 --> 0:16:30.240 coach A J. Balita de Luna is doing double duty. 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:33.600 He's keeping an eye on his team and running the tournament. 0:16:34.600 --> 0:16:37.280 Right before the round starts, a J briefs the judges, 0:16:37.920 --> 0:16:42.480 this is important the competition season, it's had some issues 0:16:43.080 --> 0:16:45.840 and we need to mention this. And I hate mentioning it, 0:16:45.880 --> 0:16:49.200 but we need to. And those are your subconscious biases 0:16:49.840 --> 0:16:55.360 against the competitors for race, gender, ethnicity, religion, age, None 0:16:55.400 --> 0:16:58.680 of that should play a role in any of the 0:16:58.680 --> 0:17:02.640 the arguments or in you're scoring. And be cognizant of 0:17:02.680 --> 0:17:06.920 what you are communicating and how you are communicating with students. 0:17:07.480 --> 0:17:09.919 So three weeks ago, we're at a tournament and a 0:17:10.040 --> 0:17:13.080 judge said, I want to talk to the black girl. Now, 0:17:13.840 --> 0:17:19.080 that's highly highly inappropriate to bring out her race and 0:17:19.119 --> 0:17:22.400 to call a woman a girl, not by her name. 0:17:22.520 --> 0:17:25.240 All of you have your name. All of our advocates 0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:27.240 are going to have their name. If you want to 0:17:27.280 --> 0:17:30.320 give comments to an advocate, call them by their name. 0:17:31.000 --> 0:17:32.760 You might want to say, or their role. I want 0:17:32.760 --> 0:17:35.760 to talk to the opener or the closer, but anything 0:17:35.800 --> 0:17:38.920 like that is highly inappropriate. And then we had another 0:17:39.000 --> 0:17:42.360 judge who said, the glasses that you're wearing make your 0:17:42.359 --> 0:17:46.880 eyes look so pretty. That's also inappropriate. The only comments 0:17:46.880 --> 0:17:49.840 that should be made to any of these advocates should 0:17:49.880 --> 0:17:54.600 be on their advocacy. That's it. Nothing else. Now, I 0:17:54.640 --> 0:17:58.440 will say, as leaders in our field, you might see 0:17:58.480 --> 0:18:03.240 something racism is not that it's alive and well, these 0:18:03.280 --> 0:18:08.440 are issues that these UM young ladies and others are 0:18:08.440 --> 0:18:11.800 going to have to deal with for their entire lives 0:18:12.920 --> 0:18:19.560 until UM racism dies in this country. The best of 0:18:19.600 --> 0:18:23.560 Texas ground one. If I can have all of the 0:18:24.240 --> 0:18:28.280 judges and competitors please turn to cameras on so we 0:18:28.359 --> 0:18:31.800 can just do a great conflict check and witnesses to 0:18:33.760 --> 0:18:39.520 judges and competitors. Does anyone looks familiar to be That's 0:18:39.520 --> 0:18:42.919 a many either. Thank you, so I believe you can 0:18:42.960 --> 0:18:46.879 be gad. This is a civil trial. Chris Williams was 0:18:46.920 --> 0:18:50.040 a star athlete who went to a rock concert, was 0:18:50.119 --> 0:18:52.760 thrown to the ground by security staff, and is now 0:18:52.840 --> 0:18:56.920 paralyzed from the neck down, Your honor posing counsel, Lady 0:18:56.960 --> 0:19:01.040 and gentlemen, the jury made police accord I. Our circumstances 0:19:01.400 --> 0:19:06.280 determine our conditions. The decisions we make at any given 0:19:06.320 --> 0:19:10.720 moment in our lives forever altered the course of our life, 0:19:11.800 --> 0:19:16.760 for better or for worse. When things go wrong for us, 0:19:16.800 --> 0:19:18.920 we try and look back through rose colored lenses to 0:19:18.960 --> 0:19:22.679 try and justify what happened, to try and explain away 0:19:22.720 --> 0:19:25.560 the reasonings and things that led to our current condition. 0:19:26.359 --> 0:19:29.440 We try and blame others for our wrongs, for our 0:19:29.480 --> 0:19:33.639 own negligence. That is what is going on today. That 0:19:34.080 --> 0:19:39.119 is what the plaintiffs are trying to do. Chris Williams, 0:19:39.480 --> 0:19:43.440 the plaintiff. Later in the round, Andy grills the plaintiff, 0:19:43.760 --> 0:19:47.959 getting her to admit that she knew her actions had consequences, 0:19:49.280 --> 0:19:51.560 all right, Siliam so you knew that getting into that 0:19:51.600 --> 0:19:54.440 mosh pit coul jeopardize your lacross carew but you did 0:19:54.480 --> 0:19:58.200 it anyway, and you didn't stop there. The second song 0:19:58.240 --> 0:20:02.199 to more Cowbell came on, and something came over you. 0:20:03.440 --> 0:20:07.040 And when that's something, when that song came over you, 0:20:07.040 --> 0:20:12.520 you decided to jump on the group of strangers nearby. Yes, 0:20:13.000 --> 0:20:16.360 now you don't know if you hurt these people as 0:20:16.400 --> 0:20:20.720 you jumped on them. We originally thought it was a 0:20:20.720 --> 0:20:22.840 plaintiffs case. And then Cole and I really hit the 0:20:22.840 --> 0:20:25.800 defense pretty hard. The plaintiffide is having a little bit 0:20:25.840 --> 0:20:33.880 more trouble than we thought they would. Hello, So look, 0:20:33.920 --> 0:20:37.760 I mean, all on, go around for us. You can 0:20:37.800 --> 0:20:45.239 fix that love thing. Yeah, if you want to win. 0:20:46.520 --> 0:20:49.600 Yeah right, it's a little thing, but it means these 0:20:49.600 --> 0:20:52.959 are tribal weird, right. They want us to be that 0:20:53.160 --> 0:20:56.640 sharpness right, yeah, so let's get that sharpness thing there. 0:20:56.760 --> 0:21:02.200 You're right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but it's that's okay, right, 0:21:07.480 --> 0:21:16.000 we can up make this. So we're at Free that 0:21:16.760 --> 0:21:20.240 Free That Mexican restaurant and bars the full name. This 0:21:20.400 --> 0:21:24.640 is my parents restaurant that we are all super proud of. 0:21:25.359 --> 0:21:29.760 We opened during COVID because it was either open and 0:21:29.760 --> 0:21:32.800 lose money or stay closed and lose money. I'm still 0:21:32.800 --> 0:21:34.679 a server here when I'm not in school and not 0:21:34.840 --> 0:21:38.200 fully employed. That they might laugh, but they will agree 0:21:38.240 --> 0:21:40.639 with me. I think I was the perfect kid, not 0:21:40.840 --> 0:21:42.960 perfect like you know kids mess up and stuff, but 0:21:42.960 --> 0:21:45.879 I was. I was a golden child. I never stepped 0:21:45.880 --> 0:21:47.639 out of line, and if I stepped like half a 0:21:47.680 --> 0:21:50.720 to out of line, it was like right back in. Um, 0:21:50.720 --> 0:21:53.720 I wasn't really a rule breaker. I wasn't. I don't 0:21:53.760 --> 0:21:56.880 know if it's like a child of immigrants thing. There's 0:21:56.880 --> 0:21:59.719 a million questions about identity that I'm hyper aware of 0:21:59.760 --> 0:22:01.919 that I go through my head all the time. Do 0:22:02.000 --> 0:22:05.439 I have my two white? Um? Should I be more Mexican? 0:22:05.560 --> 0:22:07.760 And it's like, wait, no, I am Mexican, Like I 0:22:07.800 --> 0:22:11.400 don't have to be more anything. Senior year of college, 0:22:11.440 --> 0:22:13.520 I was kind of having an identity crisis of like 0:22:14.400 --> 0:22:16.280 going back to Texas. I don't know why I got 0:22:16.359 --> 0:22:19.320 into my head that I needed to look more Mexican. 0:22:19.680 --> 0:22:22.439 So I dyed my hair dark brown, similar to like 0:22:22.480 --> 0:22:25.480 my mom's hair color, and I hated it. It was, 0:22:25.520 --> 0:22:27.320 you know, I chopped it off and I tried to 0:22:27.480 --> 0:22:31.399 wear more greens and color. I don't know if you 0:22:31.400 --> 0:22:32.840 have if you get a chance to see my mom, 0:22:32.920 --> 0:22:36.920 Like she's this brown woman with like black wavy hair, 0:22:37.320 --> 0:22:40.000 and you know, she's got all these bracelets and she's 0:22:40.000 --> 0:22:42.399 always dressed in colorful things from head to do. So 0:22:42.440 --> 0:22:44.880 I was just like, maybe I'm not embracing who I am. 0:22:44.920 --> 0:22:46.520 Maybe like I need to do it. And it just 0:22:46.720 --> 0:22:48.719 felt wrong and it was like, oh my god, am 0:22:48.720 --> 0:22:51.680 I you know, do I hate my culture? It's like no, no, no, no, stop. 0:22:52.280 --> 0:23:03.640 It's an overthinking game. Always yes yes and sandro yes cock. Okay, 0:23:03.880 --> 0:23:14.600 this is us, Oh, there's my down comes us. Listen. 0:23:23.880 --> 0:23:26.399 This is the blue room. That when is the rosroom? Okay, 0:23:26.480 --> 0:23:30.119 and the capacity is like three hundred and fifty people, 0:23:31.040 --> 0:23:36.439 it's ten thousand square feet. Yeah. This is the front 0:23:36.440 --> 0:23:45.159 of the kitchen line the line. Yeah. But we have 0:23:45.280 --> 0:23:48.760 the prep team and the money, so the rest of 0:23:48.760 --> 0:23:51.320 the team they come up for a clock. The thing 0:23:51.400 --> 0:23:55.800 with Mexico as depends where you go. Every estate they 0:23:55.880 --> 0:23:59.560 got a particular food. But if you go to the state, 0:24:00.080 --> 0:24:04.919 the little town, they got it even something especial. You're like, 0:24:05.160 --> 0:24:09.000 you never find anywhere house. So we have this uncle 0:24:09.359 --> 0:24:11.800 who he like not my blood, but he's from like 0:24:11.840 --> 0:24:14.760 the Pacific coast. He's from us Atlanta, And I mean 0:24:14.800 --> 0:24:16.840 I've been ever in Mexico. Mexico's the most phenomenal in 0:24:16.880 --> 0:24:19.680 the world a number, but I have never eaten aguachils 0:24:19.720 --> 0:24:22.320 like is that he makes because like it's like he's 0:24:22.359 --> 0:24:24.040 from the coast. He's from there. He's from this little 0:24:24.040 --> 0:24:25.600 town and his grandma taught it to make him a 0:24:25.600 --> 0:24:34.840 certain way. And it's like it's crazy this traffic cake tonight. 0:24:36.119 --> 0:24:41.359 Oh yeah, Well, I feel like I got my goal. 0:24:41.440 --> 0:24:50.119 You know with her, you're not like completely yeah, he 0:24:50.240 --> 0:24:54.280 said that, it's like seeing my goal come true. My 0:24:54.320 --> 0:24:56.359 goal as a father has always been for her to 0:24:56.480 --> 0:24:58.719 like to be on her own two feet, to finally 0:24:58.720 --> 0:25:01.800 get her title as a lawyer. Like it's that's the 0:25:01.920 --> 0:25:04.080 end goal. That's it. That's the only thing I wanted 0:25:04.119 --> 0:25:05.959 as a father, And like that's the most important thing 0:25:06.000 --> 0:25:08.680 for parents everywhere, I think, is to see your child 0:25:08.680 --> 0:25:11.879 through to that. Not only the goal, but my dream, 0:25:11.920 --> 0:25:15.200 you know, like this hard you know, and this war 0:25:15.320 --> 0:25:19.080 and this country or wherever you go, Like the kids 0:25:19.760 --> 0:25:22.720 finished the school. I mean, I got a lot of 0:25:22.760 --> 0:25:27.119 family in the United States, and most of them, the 0:25:27.200 --> 0:25:30.240 young people of my family, they don't not even finish 0:25:31.040 --> 0:25:35.440 her school for some other reason. And that's important, and 0:25:36.680 --> 0:25:40.000 oh I feel proud of that, you know. But it's 0:25:40.119 --> 0:25:47.120 it's not easy. It's it's hard sometimes. But just Camino, 0:25:47.240 --> 0:25:51.520 you're up in the end of El Camino, he said, 0:25:51.560 --> 0:25:53.880 you know, I think you catch that. I'm proud. In English, 0:25:54.240 --> 0:25:57.639 as we all are back. He was like, in America, 0:25:58.480 --> 0:26:01.520 if you work hard enough, you can do anything, which 0:26:01.560 --> 0:26:03.160 is something that he's told me since I was a kid, 0:26:03.240 --> 0:26:04.760 and he's you know, he says, like, that's why I 0:26:04.760 --> 0:26:06.919 tell my girls, like, if you work hard enough, you 0:26:06.920 --> 0:26:09.320 can do anything here. It's different over there. You can't. 0:26:09.320 --> 0:26:10.679 That's not the same. You know, you can work as 0:26:10.720 --> 0:26:12.800 hard as a dog there for years, your whole life 0:26:13.040 --> 0:26:15.800 and not get anything. That's you know, that's the beauty 0:26:15.960 --> 0:26:18.520 of America. You know. He's like, sometimes, you know, the 0:26:18.560 --> 0:26:20.880 path isn't easy, you know, He's like, I'm not saying 0:26:20.880 --> 0:26:23.000