1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Chris Sims, Pro Football Talk Live co host 3 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: and the former NFL quarterback give me the strategy last 4 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: night you did not like, well, the strategy I did 5 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 1: not like. Well. I mean, I think the forty nine 6 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:22,600 Speaker 1: Ers pick at number three is probably the strategy I 7 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: did not like. Okay, that that would be the first one. Okay, 8 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: let me start. Let me start there. Because you're friends 9 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: with Kyle Shanahan, right right, right, You've known him for 10 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:36,840 Speaker 1: twenty years, okay. Uh, And I thought you kept saying 11 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 1: Mac Jones and okay, there has to be some kind 12 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 1: of contact between you two. And then I realized that 13 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 1: maybe you don't have a strong friendship with Kyle Shanahan anymore. 14 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 1: I think that's really what it is. But they spent 15 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: a lot to go up and get Trey Lance, and 16 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: h was Mac Jones's smoke screen all along. I mean, listen, 17 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: I don't know that. I don't know. And again I 18 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: talked to my buddy Kyle Shanan. We talked about a 19 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 1: lot of football. As I've always explained to people, we 20 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 1: don't get into the specifics of their football team. They 21 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: don't I don't, So I don't know. Now I could 22 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 1: just say this like I had conversations after the college 23 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: year was over and everything like that. I know he 24 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 1: viewed mac Jones as a very big time prospect for sure, 25 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 1: But no, I was going off of what I thought 26 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: I knew of my friend and the kind of quarterback 27 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: he likes. He's always waxed poetically about Drew Brees and 28 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:39,199 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan and those type of quarterbacks to where I thought, 29 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: all right, Mac Jones as Drew Brees to me coming out, 30 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: and I thought that's where he would go. So maybe 31 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: we're not as good good of friends as I thought, 32 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: or maybe I don't know him as well as I did, 33 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: But no, I one don't know if I ever would 34 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: have traded up to I've said that from the start 35 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: I would have never traded up to three in this 36 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: draft anyways, once I knew I wasn't gonna get Trevor 37 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: Lawrence or Zach Wilson. And I think that the number 38 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: three picking Trey Lance is very, very risky. All Right, 39 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: If I said you could have Mac Jones justin fields 40 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: or Trey Lance, I'm taking mac Jones, I am, I am. 41 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: I'm definitely did get his steal. Yes, I think so. 42 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: I mean you saw how Bill acted. I mean they 43 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: were on the clock for what seven seconds, and they 44 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: turned the clock. They turned it in, so they obviously, 45 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: you know, thought that he is a guy that really 46 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 1: knows how to play the position and play it the 47 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: way they want to and really again and that in 48 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 1: my heart of hearts, that's where you know, I still 49 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: I got to see it to believe it, or here something. 50 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: I really still think the forty nine ers trade it 51 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: up for mac Jones originally, and somewhere in that process 52 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: it got changed. You know. I think a lot of 53 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: people in the NFL thought the Carolina Panthers and the 54 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: New England Patriots were hot on mac Jones, and I 55 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:56,519 Speaker 1: think that's why Shanahan moved up. I don't know that, 56 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 1: but that's what I do believe in my heart of hearts. 57 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,399 Speaker 1: And as you could tell, I've been and that before. Anyways, 58 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: the strategy you liked last night, how could you not 59 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: love the New York Giants and what they did, right? 60 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,079 Speaker 1: I think that's one. You know, Dave Getleman, he gets 61 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: a lot of crap. I'm a Giants fan, but once 62 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: you see okay, DeVante Smith, who it sounds like they 63 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: really had their eye on. He's gone to trade down 64 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: and get a first round pick for next year, and 65 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: then also get a guy who's a tyree kill type 66 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: of weapon in Cadarius Tony. So they kind of get 67 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: a guy that they needed or wanted anyways, and yet 68 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: they get a first round pick out of it. It's 69 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: hard for me not to like that move by the 70 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: New York Giants. Jimmy Garoppolo's future in San Francisco is 71 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: what over over. They can say what they want, but like, 72 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: so here's the other thing. I don't know if this 73 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: is where it's dicey with that pick, right, And I 74 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: don't love the strategy we Trey Lance. You've heard me say. 75 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: I don't love his throwing motion. I don't think he's 76 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: the most natural throw were in the draft by any 77 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: stretch of the imagination. I think his running is good, 78 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: but I think it's overrated. Again, it's against one double 79 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: A people. It's not Lamar Jackson we're talking about, all right, 80 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: So that's where I question it. He's never run a 81 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: two minute drill in his college career. He's never really 82 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: had a game where he had a like the pressure 83 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 1: was on you to perform at a high level for 84 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: them to win the game, and he didn't play football 85 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 1: last year. You can't sit them out again another year 86 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 1: behind Jimmy Garoppo. At some point, the guy's got to 87 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: play and throw footballs if you want to get them 88 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 1: better at it. So I think ultimately they could say 89 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: what they want, But Jimmy g I would think, is 90 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,359 Speaker 1: on the trade block as soon as they feel like, Okay, 91 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 1: Trey Lance, he's comfortable here. He knows our offense. And 92 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: that's maybe when you hear that talk. But you do 93 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: you think the Niners start this season with Jimmy Garopplo. 94 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 1: I don't, Okay, I don't. I don't. I don't think. 95 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: I think, to me, there you're you're getting into risky 96 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 1: territory once again. And they got a good football team. 97 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: You know, Also, when are they going to make the 98 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: change after they're nine and two or maybe in the playoffs, 99 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: and like what if they go to the NFC Championship 100 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: game and they're like a thirteen and three team and 101 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: now you got Jimmy Garoppo was your starter all year. 102 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: You traded all those picks to what what are you 103 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 1: gonna do with Trey Lance now. So that's where I 104 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 1: think you gotta play him. He needs it, and the 105 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: beauty of the pick at least to say this, because 106 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: I know I've said more negative than positive here. Shanahan 107 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: is a genius in the run scheme, and now to 108 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: have a quarterback like this go along with it, That's 109 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: where I think there is beauty to the pick and 110 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: could be really really intriguing going forward. Yeah, it gives 111 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 1: him sort of that Lamar Jackson option. He's not Lamar Jackson, 112 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 1: but it does open things up a little bit more. 113 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: The Bengals at five, I thought the smart move was 114 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: getting a tackle to protect your quarterback instead of a 115 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 1: wide receiver for your quarterback, because your quarterback is not 116 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 1: useful if he's on his back. It's a it's a 117 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 1: tough one. Yeah, I think I think Chase is wonderful, right, 118 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: but I still have to protect my quarterback. And you 119 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: saw the Kansas City Chiefs realize as great as Mahomes is, 120 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 1: if we don't protect him, then you know, he becomes mortal. 121 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: Yeah right, No, I it was a tough decision for 122 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: my money. I mean, Sewell is a special tackle. You're right, 123 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 1: they haven't been good up front, they haven't opened up 124 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,919 Speaker 1: holes for Joe Mixon. They play in the AFC North 125 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 1: that's got studs galore coming off the edge. So it 126 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: makes sense. But I also understand the pick, Like, like 127 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 1: you said, Chase is special. I mean, he was the 128 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 1: best college wide receiver two years ago. Now it's hard 129 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: for me to think what the kind of athlete and 130 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: specimen he is that he wouldn't have still had that 131 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: title if he had played this past year. So I 132 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 1: think from that standpoint, there's a special connection with your quarterback. 133 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 1: And you know they're going the version of like, hey, 134 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: we're gonna get Tyree killed and Sammy Watkins and receivers first, 135 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 1: and then they're gonna try to fill in the offensive line. 136 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:05,919 Speaker 1: To your point, and there should be some really good 137 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: ones there for them to take advantage of. At the 138 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: top of the second, even in the top of the third, 139 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: the offensive line is a pretty deep position in this draft. 140 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: Did the Bears get his steal? I don't know if 141 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: they got a steal. I mean, it's got the potential 142 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: to be a steal. You know it fields is dicey 143 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: for me. I know I'm in the minority. With that, 144 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: I think I've told you a little bit. I have 145 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: a little issue with how he does throw the ball. 146 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: I think there's a little hitch in his giddy up. 147 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: There's some mechanical things that really concern me that I'm 148 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: not sold you can definitely fix. But his arm is 149 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: powerful and running is special. There's no doubt he was 150 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: the best running quarterback in this draft. He's Cam Newton, 151 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: except I would say he's quicker than Cam Newton coming 152 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: out of college and that stuff. So that's where, of course, 153 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: they can maybe buy them some time and you can 154 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: use that aspect as he continues to get polished and 155 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: better with some of the throwing aspects of his game. 156 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: Christian Pro Football Talk Live co host What do you 157 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: do if you're the Green Bay Pet Curse with Aaron Rodgers. 158 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:12,559 Speaker 1: I mean, the writings on the wall, don't you think? 159 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: I mean? But but who wrote it? They did when 160 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: they chucked Jordan Love, they wrote it on the wall. 161 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 1: Now they're trying to, like, you know, cross it out 162 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: with like some pencils and like be like, no, we 163 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: didn't do it. It's not really real, and like they're 164 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: trying to cover up for it. But for me, that's 165 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: where it starts, you know, And I think Rogers will 166 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: be back this year. But I think this is what 167 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 1: I've been saying for the last two weeks. I think 168 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: this is it. Though I don't think you'll ever see 169 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: him in Green Bay after this season. There's there's issues there, 170 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: and I do think the Broncos would be the team. 171 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: I don't know, you're right, I don't know. You know. One, 172 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 1: because the guy they drafted in the first round is 173 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 1: not ready yet, so that's the first problem. And then two, 174 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: he's still definitely one of the three best players in 175 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: football and Aaron Rodgers and their team is good, so 176 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: they're gonna try to exhaust all options to try to 177 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: save that because they are in a super Bowl window. 178 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: But they've you know, they've blown it a lot by 179 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 1: not really supporting the guy to take advantage of that 180 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: window opportunity. I have no information on this, but I 181 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: got the feeling. Here's my theory that Rogers said to 182 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,959 Speaker 1: the Packers yesterday, Hey, you jacked up my draft yesterday 183 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,959 Speaker 1: or last year by taking Jordan Love. Didn't even give 184 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,839 Speaker 1: me a heads up. Now I'm gonna jack up your 185 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: draft day here and now the game is on. I mean, 186 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 1: I don't like put that past him a little bit, 187 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 1: you know. I think the jumping off point, of course, 188 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: was the forty nine ers calling Green Bay and taking 189 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: one more shot and seeing if that can happen. You know, 190 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: there's no doubt. So I do think for the first 191 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: time in his career, public perception is on his side 192 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: a little bit here, just because I think everybody recognizes 193 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: how good he is. He's never really had those game 194 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: changing difference makers around him. The pressure has always been 195 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: on him, and the Packers made this bed. So it's 196 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: really just to be like, how serious is he gonna 197 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,559 Speaker 1: go all in on this and really try to force 198 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: Green Bay's hand? Is he willing to kind of put 199 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 1: himself out there? Is going to be the big question 200 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: for me. Okay, where could you see him land? Like 201 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: the Broncos of the team, Like I said that, I 202 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: think make a lot of sense. You know, I had 203 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: heard that they were kind of hot on him for 204 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 1: maybe the idea of being the quarterback in twenty twenty 205 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 1: two before this whole conversation started. Anyways, And you know, 206 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: a lot like when Peyton Manning went to Denver, there's 207 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: a lot of things here that are similar, like, WHOA, 208 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: there's sneaky talent at that wide receiver position. They got 209 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: studs there, they got a stud tight end. They've got 210 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 1: their offensive line in order. Finally, and their defense Vic 211 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: Fangio and von Miller and Chubb and you know now 212 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: Patrick certain and Kyle Fuller and Ronald Darby. I mean, 213 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 1: they're They're one of those teams that I do think 214 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: could jump onto the scene this year. If they get 215 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,559 Speaker 1: the right quarterback play where we go. WHOA, they're more 216 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: of a contender than I expected. Give me the quarterback 217 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: who will be taken tonight that will eventually be a starter. 218 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: I think that's Kellen Mond. I'd always have thought Kellen 219 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: Mond had the ability to be a first round quarterback. 220 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: He's got everything you want. He's been playing pro football 221 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: at Texas A and M the last few years. And 222 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 1: what I mean that is playing in the pocket with 223 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 1: pressure around him and having to throw into extremely tight 224 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,719 Speaker 1: windows and make high level throws. He passes it with 225 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: great grades all the time, explosive arm, really good athlete, 226 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: unbelievable technique. If he would just be a little bit 227 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: more loose and play backyard football, dan, he would have 228 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:56,199 Speaker 1: been a first round pick. I mean, I don't I 229 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: don't doubt that, but I explain that. What do you 230 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 1: mean he a little robotic in the pocket, you know, 231 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 1: Jimbo Fisher is very much like no. You stand in 232 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: the pocket and go one, two, three, and there's plays 233 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: where you watch and you go, wait, one and two 234 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 1: are aren't open, and the pockets kind of collapse and 235 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: you're too fast and athletic. Get out, buy some time, 236 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: you know, be a Zach Wilson or Trevor Lawrence and 237 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: get out and now try to find a throw down 238 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: the field. That way, that's like an area he needs 239 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: to get better at, but that's one that doesn't concern 240 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: me a whole lot. That's an easier fix to me 241 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:32,439 Speaker 1: than fixing justin fields mechanical issues and things like that. 242 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: Give us some other names to keep an eye on tonight. Well, 243 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: Jeremiah Wusu Coromoa. I loved watching him. I saw a 244 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: few games with him, and I thought he was an 245 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: impactful player. I just don't know at that position. That's 246 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 1: why he didn't get drafted in the first round. I 247 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: think so I did. I think your logic is right. 248 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: I think he's kind of one of those hybrid guys 249 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 1: where everybody's like, man, we like him, but is he 250 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:00,559 Speaker 1: gonna be a safety or a linebacker? What exactly he's 251 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: gone is he gonna do? And I think that scares people. 252 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 1: I think people are scared of that kind of formula. 253 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: I think they've gotten back to like the We don't 254 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: love the Isaiah Simmon things all that much. We'd rather 255 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 1: just get a guy that we know is really good 256 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 1: at this one spot. But I think you look at 257 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 1: him Diami Brown from North Carolina to watch out for, 258 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 1: I said Mond Elijah Moore, the wide receiver from Old 259 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: Miss Terrace, Marshall Junior, the wide receiver for LSU. I 260 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: think you see him go off here pretty good. Azez Ojolari, 261 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: the edge guy from Georgia. I think those are the 262 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: few of the names that jump out to me that 263 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 1: you see go off in the top fifteen twenty picks 264 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: of this round. Dan Well, thank you, budd. We'll be 265 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: following you on Twitter. Chris Sims, Pro Football Talk Live 266 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: co host, thank you. Have a great weekend. You two 267 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: buddy see him man. Thanks for listening to The Dan 268 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every 269 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: weekday morning nine to noon Eastern or six to nine 270 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 1: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for 271 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: the Dan Patrick Show at Fox Sports Radio dot Com 272 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: or street this live every day on the iHeartRadio app 273 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:06,559 Speaker 1: by searching f s R, or stream us live on 274 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:10,079 Speaker 1: the Peacock Act. Mike Charico is going to host the 275 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 1: Kentucky Derby Live from Churchill Downs. That'll be tomorrow. That'll 276 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: be the fifth time he's done that. Their coverage starts 277 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: at two thirty Eastern. Also part of Saturday's Derby show 278 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: will be Mike's championship discussion with Bill Belichick and also 279 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: Bob Baffort, the six time Kentucky Derby winning trainer. Let 280 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: me start with that there, Mike, how did that come up? 281 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: And what was the topic of conversation with Bill? I'd 282 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: love to tell you, but the segments out of time 283 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: with you waiting. Thanks to talk to you, Mike. Have 284 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: fun at Churchill done. Thanks, I love twenty one twelve, 285 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: great album. Thanks for being on. Have a great weekend. 286 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: So Belichick, we see Belichick at the previous every year 287 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: Baltimore guy loves going to Pimlico. He and Seth Carman, 288 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: one of the big horse racing owners have a good relationship. 289 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: So Bill's there every year, and I know that he 290 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: really enjoys horse racing and he's won six Super Bowls. Obviously, 291 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: Baffort's won the Super Bowl of Thirdbred Racing Kentucky Derby 292 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: six times. So we've you know, we've told the Baffort 293 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: story a hundred different ways. So let's get let's give 294 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: this a whirl. So I was out at Santa Anita 295 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: in southern California, interviewed Bafford and then we did a 296 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: zoom and we zoomed in Belichick. It was hysterical. Bill 297 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: was great in the piece which laire on the pre 298 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: race show, Belichick laughs, tells, jokes, he shares his love 299 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: of horse racing, and Bill Belichick says we're on to 300 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: Cincinnati without being promptly, which was sessational, like I wanted 301 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: to walk off like this is the best day ever. 302 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: We got Belichick that they were on Tocinnati on his own. 303 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: It was great. So it was just a fun time 304 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: and it's Belichick in a different light. It seemed true 305 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: at Bafford. I am never gonna see that side of 306 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick that everybody keeps telling me, Oh, you would 307 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: love him man, he is so funny. I'd never been 308 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: around him when he's let his guard down. So you know, 309 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: maybe one of these days I'll see that side. Well, 310 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: maybe I'll just tune in tomorrow. You could do that, Yeah, 311 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: and then I'll see that side of the highlight of 312 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: the pieces. Bathford comes up with a term about dealing 313 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: with media attention all that stuff, and Belichick like writes 314 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: up when Bathford says, and he goes, Bob, I like that. 315 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: I I might steal that for next year. So I'm 316 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: going to be watching the Belichick press conferences to see 317 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: if he steals the Bafford lot. The piece was fun 318 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: and it was great great of Bill. I'm very appreciated 319 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: that he answered our call and was willing to play 320 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: along with us. Now, you did Notre Dame games this year. 321 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: The best best player you saw either on Notre Dame 322 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: or against Notre Dame this year was who, Well, it's 323 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: hard to say Trevor Lawrence because he didn't play in 324 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: the game. Djulola the guys could replace Lawrence was the 325 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: quarterback for that game. I would probably say Travis Etnu 326 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: and Notre Dame handled him for a while. I thought 327 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: one of the Notre Dame players would go in the 328 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: first round, and that was Jeremiah Usu Coromala the linebacker. 329 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 1: I like him alive. I love that. I love him 330 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: as a player of versatility, you know that a kind 331 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 1: of Isaiah Simmons hybrid role. You can do a lot 332 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:14,919 Speaker 1: of things with him. He will not last long in 333 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 1: the second round. And if your team gets him, this guy, 334 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:22,919 Speaker 1: he brings it speed power with that speed, and a 335 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:26,439 Speaker 1: really smart kid and very a lovest football and I 336 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: hate to run through all the kyper cliches there, but 337 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: he fits the bill full time and whoever gets him 338 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:34,679 Speaker 1: will be good. Eliam Eikenberg the left tackle too. There 339 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:36,199 Speaker 1: are a couple of good Notre Dame players I think 340 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 1: will go in the second round, but opponents I say 341 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: ETM was the best of the bunch. What is it 342 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: like hosting when you host a draft when you know 343 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: there's so many moving parts there, like just trying to 344 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,360 Speaker 1: keep focus there. You know, Greeney did a great job 345 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 1: last night, you know, his first first draft. Rich Eisen 346 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: has been doing this for a long long time. But 347 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: what is that like with information and where it feels 348 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: like you got people talking in both of your ears? 349 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: If you had a third year, they'd be talking into 350 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: that as well. The crowd noise in there as well, 351 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 1: right right, Unfortunately you're talking out of something else while 352 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:18,199 Speaker 1: people are talking during the draft, right yeah, you know, 353 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: you know again, it's funny you said that, because you know, 354 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: ESPN on their social media put out the the class photo, 355 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: the legendary class photo the Sports Center anchors, because Rich 356 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: and Mike were in there, and they showed, you know, 357 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 1: the two guys were hosting the draft and Boomers sit 358 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 1: in the middle, and you're in there, and Robin Charlie 359 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:38,880 Speaker 1: and hold with me, Chris McKendree, a whole bunch of us. 360 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 1: And I saw that, I just reach out to both 361 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: Rich and Mike and said, hey, good luck with the draft. 362 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 1: I did Day two ten times or eleven times. I 363 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: did the main set once Burman couldn't do the draft, 364 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 1: and did I think like seven or eight NBA drafts? 365 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: And I texted Greeney, I said, and I'll be honest 366 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:58,159 Speaker 1: with the guys. They said, Look, I said, tonight is 367 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 1: if you want to think of anything from the experience 368 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 1: of the chair, it's a night to be Chris Paul, 369 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: not James Harden. You got to just take it and 370 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:07,439 Speaker 1: dish it, and take it in, dish it and take 371 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 1: it and dish it. It's not a night to dribble 372 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 1: the ball into the floor and step back and jack 373 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 1: up shots. Even though James James Harden's great at doing 374 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: that and that Greeney was tor. That's a hard job 375 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:21,400 Speaker 1: to do. The thing I always leaves me empty as 376 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 1: a viewer is as soon as the pick happens, half 377 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 1: the audience wants to hear about how does the guy fit? 378 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 1: Who am I getting? The other half of the audience 379 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: wants to get onto the next pick, give me the 380 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 1: four minute run up to the Lions and you got 381 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: to sell you the commercial in there somewhere. So it's 382 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 1: always a hard show to satisfy the viewers. But that 383 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 1: both networks do a really nice job doing it. It's 384 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: not easy for sure. What's your favorite draft moment that 385 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: you hosted Tom Brady? I was on the air for 386 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,959 Speaker 1: Tom Brady, and every year now for the last ten 387 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: years or so, the anniversary of the Brady pick, which 388 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,919 Speaker 1: is also Belichick's birthday in late April, that clips surfaces 389 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: on social media and I get a number of Hey, 390 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: you had hair back then? Yes, I Kiper's hair hasn't changed. No, 391 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: it hasn't. The headline of the thing. I had a 392 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 1: pretty good insight into the Michigan situation. I wasn't living 393 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: there at that point, but was covering college football, and 394 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 1: I was able to kind of put in context if 395 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: Brady wasn't starting, Drew Henson was there, and Kiper's analysis 396 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 1: of Brady is spot on if you ever get a 397 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 1: chance to go back and listen to it. Kiper nailed 398 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: Brady on pick one ninety nine in the draft twenty 399 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: one years ago. It was not that he was going 400 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: to be the all time great, but what he could 401 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 1: be in the league and the opportunities that he showed 402 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: when he had his time at Michigan. He's Mike Jariko, 403 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 1: host play by Playboys, NBC Sports, NBC Football Night in 404 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: America and the Kentucky Derby. What do we need to know? 405 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 1: What's this audience need to know about tomorrow? All Right? 406 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: No super horse, but a bunch of really good ones. 407 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 1: As many as eight legitimately have a chance to ask 408 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: Randy Moss and Jerry Bailey who are I'm on the 409 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: set with? And they're awesome. They've done this for many, 410 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: many years, and I said, guys, I start throwing out names. 411 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 1: Would you be surprised if this horse wins or this 412 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 1: horse wins? And they said, no, we won't be. So 413 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: I think if you're a handicapper a better you've got 414 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 1: a lot of options in this race. A couple of the 415 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: the headlines to central Quality is the favorite two year 416 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: old champ, undefeated in five races, trained by Brad Cox 417 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 1: who grew up two blocks him here. Nobody from Louisville 418 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: has ever trained a Derby Champ. Big deal locally. Bob 419 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 1: Bafford's going for his seventh would be the all time record. 420 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: His horses Medina Spirit not probably one of the top 421 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: three or four maybe in that next group. Those would 422 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 1: be a couple of headlines to take away. But known 423 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,360 Speaker 1: agenda is the other one. I'll throw out you real quick. 424 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,640 Speaker 1: He's starting on the rail. Horses normally don't win from 425 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 1: that one hole in the twenty horse field, but they've 426 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 1: got a new gait that has been able to move 427 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 1: the number one spot a little bit off the rail. 428 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: So the experts think the one has a better chance 429 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 1: this year than another year's. Have you ever ridden a racehorses, No, 430 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 1: not a racehorse. I did one of those kind of 431 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: mule things at Grand Canyon thirty years ago. That was 432 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: good enough for me, very similar. How about you you 433 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: have it? You're too tall. Yeah. Now I've been on 434 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: horses before, Oh you have yeah? Yeah, yeah, they've been good. 435 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 1: I mean, do you have it? I mean, were you 436 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: in a tuck where you you know it wasn't it 437 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 1: wasn't comfortable. No, because I like to go bear back. No, 438 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,439 Speaker 1: I'm talking about me, not the like that. There's no 439 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 1: saddle like I'm bear back and that's you know, that's 440 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 1: why it was a little bit uncomfortable here. Oh my god, 441 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: some chafing. I will tell you that. I will say 442 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: that's the people of horse racing, the trainers, the jocks, 443 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: the grooms. There's such good people. They love they love 444 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: the horses. And this is one of the few days, 445 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 1: these three days and the breeders Cup, that you really 446 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 1: pay attention. It gets on the national scene. For the 447 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,400 Speaker 1: people who keep the sportkled. They did a great job. 448 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 1: During the pandemic, horse racing didn't stop people how to 449 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,360 Speaker 1: take care of the horse. As the horses couldn't go 450 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 1: into lockdown for three months. You need to feed them 451 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 1: and train them and work them and stand them up 452 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 1: and all that, and how many fans tomorrow about a 453 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: third round fifty thousty five fifty third the normal deal 454 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 1: with the masks and look at one hundred and forty 455 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: seven acre facility. So if any place can social distance, 456 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: it's Churchill Downs my cafun We'll be watching. We appreciate it, 457 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: uh and thanks for joining us as always any time. 458 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 1: Have a great weekend. That the great Mike Treco. Thanks 459 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,120 Speaker 1: for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure 460 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: to catch us live every weekday morning nine until noon 461 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,919 Speaker 1: eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and 462 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 1: you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR 463 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 1: or stream us live on the Peacock app. We bring 464 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 1: in the popular analyst from the Mothership, Dan Orlovski two 465 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: hour NFL Live on ESPN that starts at three Eastern 466 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 1: today from Cleveland Marcus Spears, Mena Times, Ryan Clark, Laura 467 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 1: Rutledge and more. ESPN ABC's draft coverage continues tonight at 468 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 1: an Eastern, then all day Saturday, beginning at noon Eastern. 469 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 1: I like the all Green yesterday Dan Bold statement, there 470 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: who helped you pick out your suit there. Yeah, I 471 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 1: appreciate that, but that was my wife. She picks out 472 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: usually on television clothes. It was a money day because 473 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 1: it was was a money making day for these guys. 474 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: So I went with the green. What do you have today? 475 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:23,719 Speaker 1: What's in store for today? Yeah? Blue? Traditional, maybe not 476 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: a traditional blue, but a little bit of a steel 477 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: blue with a cream and blue colored tie, some sweet shoes. 478 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 1: So to end the week a little bit more traditional 479 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 1: than Wednesday and Thursday, when I went kind of maroon 480 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: and then green. Okay, but you know herb Street has 481 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: it in his contract that he gets to wear blue 482 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: before anybody else does, so I would I would check 483 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 1: just with management with that, Dan, Okay, make sure I 484 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,640 Speaker 1: don't I don't disrespect somebody above me. I'll do that. Yes, 485 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 1: all right, let's start with Aaron Rodgers here. I'm trying 486 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:59,360 Speaker 1: to figure out what was he hoping to accomplish yesterday. Well, 487 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 1: I don't know if that was Aaron leaking it or 488 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: not or whatnot. I mean, if you listen to people 489 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,199 Speaker 1: like Schepter talk, this has been something that's going on 490 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 1: for a while now, and it just so happened that 491 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:12,880 Speaker 1: it came out yesterday. Again, maybe it was leaked by Aaron. 492 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 1: It doesn't Aaron doesn't kind of I don't take Aaron 493 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 1: is that kind of guy that tries to hijack the draft, 494 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: so to speak. I think at the end of the day, 495 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:26,120 Speaker 1: this has been something that started with x Dan, like, hey, 496 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is unhappy, okay, and then he plays the 497 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: season he has the season that he has, and then 498 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: he starts to get more unhappy because I'm playing so well, 499 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: but I still we're still like a piece away from 500 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 1: actually winning the Super Bowl, so to speak, and so 501 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 1: that festers a little bit, and the Packers are like, 502 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 1: we need to address this. So then over the last month, 503 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 1: it sounds like maybe six weeks or so, they've gone 504 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,679 Speaker 1: out to him and said, what do how can we 505 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,199 Speaker 1: fix this? How can we fix this? How can we 506 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 1: fix this? And maybe Aaron gave them their chance to 507 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 1: try to rectify it or repair that relationship, and it 508 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 1: just so happened that that relationship has been deemed unreparable, 509 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 1: at least in this moment up until yesterday. Yeah, but 510 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 1: I don't understand. You know, it's one thing to kind 511 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,160 Speaker 1: of grab the franchise's attention. I think Russell Wilson aimed 512 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: to do that. I don't think Russ wanted to be traded. 513 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 1: I think he just wanted to say, Hey, can I 514 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 1: at least have a conversation. Can I be involved in this? 515 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:26,360 Speaker 1: Can I help in any way? This feels different Dan 516 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 1: with Aaron Rodgers, well, because I think this is way 517 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 1: bigger than football, Dan. I think this is about there 518 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: is a respect aspect. Listen, every great quarterback's got an ego. 519 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 1: We know that, right, and so his ego feels a 520 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:43,120 Speaker 1: little bit disrespected. I sent out this tweet last night. 521 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: In their last ten first round picks, nine guys have 522 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: been defense and one has been the quarterbacks selected and 523 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 1: I get it, like everyone's like, well, have you seen 524 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,199 Speaker 1: our defense in Green Bay? Yeah, guys. I was in 525 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: the division for seven years. But I do think that 526 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: there comes a point where, you know, last year they 527 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: chose the future in the draft, the Packers. They did 528 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 1: so with Jordan Love and aj Dillon. Okay, and all 529 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: Aaron's doing right now is expediting that process. He's bringing 530 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,719 Speaker 1: the future to the present. And it is because he 531 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 1: was the MVP of the league last year. If he 532 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 1: threw for twenty six touchdowns or twenty eight touchdowns. This 533 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 1: isn't a conversation. But when you go and do on 534 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 1: the field what he did, now he's regained the power, 535 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: so to speak. And so I think there is a 536 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 1: little bit of a relationship and ego disrespect. Well, if 537 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 1: the Niners are offering you the number three pick overall, 538 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 1: and they're offering you a couple other let's say, a 539 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: couple other picks or maybe I don't know, Fred Warner, 540 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know, but let me just put 541 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 1: it out there. If I'm Green Bay, man, I listened 542 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 1: to that. If I think we're moving on, then I 543 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 1: go okay, like we're gonna take a hit. People are 544 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: gonna go, hey, how can you let him go? Well, 545 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,959 Speaker 1: we let Farve go, we let Aaron go. Everybody gets right. 546 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 1: You know, it goes to another day, Like I would 547 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 1: do that if I'm Green Bay. What about it? Dead? 548 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,880 Speaker 1: You dead on? And I've said that since last night 549 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 1: because because Brian Goodencous, their general manager, goes, we're not 550 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 1: trading Aaron Rodgers. And respectfully, guys, you started thinking about 551 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 1: this last year, so you should not be surprised. You can't. 552 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 1: This isn't That's where It's a very different situation than Seattle, 553 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: because the whole question was if it's true or not 554 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,159 Speaker 1: Russell wanted up was who was going to be the 555 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:33,120 Speaker 1: replacement for Russell? But green Bay already started this process 556 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 1: in their minds and planning for the future and planning 557 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: for Jordan Love to take over, and so they can't 558 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: sit there and go, well, we're not trading Aaron Rodgers. 559 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 1: You guys were already planning for life post Aaron Rodgers 560 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 1: last and you're just like, you can do whatever you 561 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: want your general manager, but you can't sit there and go, 562 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: we're not going to trade them when you already set 563 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: this in motion. So yeah, I mean it was interesting 564 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 1: last night because I started to think, well, if you're 565 00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: San Francisco and you don't have any more assets first 566 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: round pick wise, because you use those to get up, 567 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: like do you take Kyle Pits at three and then 568 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 1: give him bossa Kyle Pitts and you know next year's 569 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, or the first round picks. So but 570 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: I don't think that Green Bay should sit back and go, Nope, 571 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: we're not trading them, because you've already started this thought process. 572 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 1: We're talking to Dan Orlomski of the Mother's Ship. How 573 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 1: does this work for the forty nine ers with Trey Lance. 574 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 1: I think it's I'd say this, Dan, I think it's 575 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: the greatest flyer at quarterback in the history of the 576 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 1: first round when they selected Trey Lance. Super talented, super bright, 577 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 1: check all that box talk. Right, Quarterback is a repetition position. 578 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: The only way you get better and to really know 579 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: is repetitions. He's got one hundred and eighteen pass attempts 580 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 1: in college. It's the lowest that a first round quarterback 581 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 1: has had in forty years. Okay, it's one guy in 582 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: the first round in the last fifteen years has had 583 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 1: under four hundred. That's Mark Sanchez pre or five, four 584 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: hundred and eighty seven. So I think the challenge for 585 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: San Francisco is this. I think Trey Lance needs to 586 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 1: get on the field and play because of what I 587 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 1: just mentioned. He needs reps, okay, and that's the only 588 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 1: way to really develop is get those reps. Now, the 589 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 1: challenge is San Francisco also has to win football games. 590 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: You know they've They've got a losing record three out 591 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: of the four seasons. John Lynch and Collishannan, who I love, 592 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: but that's it. That is what they are, and so 593 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: they need to win. They've got a roster to win. Now. 594 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 1: The challenge is developing a quarterback, but also winning football 595 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 1: games is very hard to do, okay, and a lot 596 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 1: of times young quarterbacks fail because of that burden because 597 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 1: when it gets to win, it all costs. You revert 598 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 1: back to old habits and that stunts your development. And 599 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 1: Kyle needs to go from great offensive mind to really 600 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 1: good quarterback developer. I like, in the first round to 601 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,239 Speaker 1: playing blackjack, like you have certain numbers that you hit 602 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 1: on or in certain numbers where you go, I'm gonna stay, 603 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: Like the Raiders always feel like you know, it's sixteen 604 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 1: and they want to hit, like they they risk a 605 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 1: little bit more where some of these other teams just 606 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: certain Like the Patriots didn't go up. You know, everybody said, oh, 607 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 1: they're gonna go up, and I said, no, I'm told 608 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: they're not going up. They just sat there. They got 609 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: the guy that they wanted. If Detroit, you know, they 610 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: were patient with who they want, the Chargers with who 611 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 1: they wanted. It just felt like the Raiders, you know, 612 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 1: we're a little itchy on the trigger figure. I don't 613 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 1: know if there was anybody. I don't know if you 614 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: agree with me. I was told by a scout last night, 615 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 1: that's the worst first round pick, you know, with alex 616 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 1: Weather because you could get him in the second. It's 617 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: not him the person player, it's it's you drafted him 618 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: where you drafted him. Anybody else stand out that way? Well, 619 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: I mean touching on the Raiders two things. One, they 620 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 1: had one of the top eight offensive lines in football 621 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 1: last year and then they dismantled it this offseason. And 622 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 1: then also, like your greatest issue off a football team 623 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 1: wise is your defense, you know. So it's like they 624 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 1: really created a mess and then try to band aid 625 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 1: the mess but left the biggest gash open. Still. I 626 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 1: did not like the Travis Etn pick to Jacksonville. I 627 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 1: think he's a nice player, there's no doubt about that. 628 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 1: But I don't think you'd take a first round tailback 629 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 1: as an organization unless you're like a tail backed away 630 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 1: from a championship, right, like a championship contender. That's obviously 631 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 1: not Jacksonville. A second, of all, they've got way bigger holes. 632 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 1: I mean they actually have in James Robinson, whatevery our 633 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 1: organization wants yeah, and undrafted really good tailback, you know, 634 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: so it's like, what are we doing? And then they 635 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 1: signed Carlos Hide and then for Urban Meyer come out 636 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 1: this morning and say, well, our one two punch is 637 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 1: gonna be James Robinson and Carlos Hide and Travis c 638 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 1: Tianna's our third round back. My mind goes, what because 639 00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 1: third round tailbacks in the NFL nowadays our past our 640 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 1: pass blockers. Yeah, they're protection guys, old school third round 641 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 1: running backs or third down running backs. Think of like 642 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 1: a Kevin Fowk those pass catchers. They're used on first 643 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 1: down nowadays. And I just don't understand the thought process 644 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 1: of taken that pick for Jacksonville at that moment. What 645 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: did the Bears get? Oh gosh again, I think one 646 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 1: of the best picks in the draft. You know, the 647 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 1: Bears got hope, The Bears got a prayer, so to speak. 648 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 1: I think Justin Field's talent is very spectacular. I think 649 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 1: the thing that I sit here and say this morning 650 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: is it's on you, now, Matt Naggie, to do for 651 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 1: Justin Fields what you didn't, couldn't and wouldn't for Mitchell Dubisky. 652 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 1: And I had said that for years. Is one of 653 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 1: the things that Mitchell Drubisky did have was athleticism. He 654 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 1: did have and listen, Justin's way more talented than Mitchell, 655 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 1: but they never allowed Mitchell to be an athlete. They 656 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 1: never sawt okay that to strength, we got to do 657 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 1: a lot of that stuff. And the reality is that 658 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 1: is a strength for Justin Fields is his athleticism, So 659 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,399 Speaker 1: you better find ways to utilize it. And then they 660 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 1: never addressed his flaws or his weaknesses because his flaws 661 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 1: and weakness were mechanics. That's the same for Justin and 662 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,360 Speaker 1: you better attack that because then the talent never shines 663 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 1: if you don't. And they better not. They asked I 664 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 1: think they asked Mitchell Dubisky to be a player that 665 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 1: he's not pocket pass their statue. Guy. Don't do that 666 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 1: for Justin Fields. Don't do that with them. And I 667 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: think that's if Matt Naggie could sit there and look 668 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 1: at himself in the mirror and go I learned from that, 669 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 1: then we're talking about something in Chicago. But it's all 670 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 1: on Matt Naggie mac Jones of the Patriots. They didn't 671 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: have to go up. They got, which blows my mind, 672 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 1: how do they not know or how did they know? Like, 673 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,840 Speaker 1: how did they know that Matt someone wasn't going to 674 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 1: jump them? Pittsburgh Washington the rate somebody wasn't going to 675 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 1: jump them, Because I do think that they like Matt Jones, 676 00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 1: and I do think that he can be a really 677 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 1: good player. So how did Bill have like such incredible 678 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 1: discipline to just sit there and know no one's gonna 679 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,839 Speaker 1: go get him? Blows my mind. I think he's got 680 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 1: a chance to be a really good player. There. The 681 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 1: Eagles had the tenth pick, and I was wondering if 682 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,360 Speaker 1: they were going to take justin fields. Now, I know 683 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:20,439 Speaker 1: you have Jalen Hurts, but I thought Washington football team 684 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 1: might go up and try to get justin fields, like 685 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 1: there were teams that and I mentioned the Bears yesterday 686 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 1: that I thought that they could go up. I thought 687 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:33,799 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh may be interested in justin fields. So, like it's 688 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 1: one of those where we can talk, we can have mocks, 689 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 1: you know, we can have conversations in the war room, 690 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 1: but when you're on the clock and when you got 691 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,840 Speaker 1: to make a move there, like I can't imagine what 692 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 1: that pressure must be like for some of these teams 693 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 1: where they're going. We got to wait and wait. But 694 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 1: Belichick and his dog, you know, maybe they were just 695 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 1: chilling and it's like, all right, let me let me 696 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 1: know when we're on the clock. Yeah, And it's just 697 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 1: like to have the ability to know that's the player 698 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 1: you want and not get I guess trigger happy is 699 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,399 Speaker 1: the phrase, or not get in panic mode. And even 700 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 1: if it's like, hey, we gotta go from fifteen to 701 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,439 Speaker 1: twelve or we gotta go fifteen to thirteen because we're 702 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 1: worried someone's gonna jump us, that is what but and 703 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:16,840 Speaker 1: I guess that's what happens when you've been in the 704 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 1: NFL forever and you've probably got so many connections that 705 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 1: he knew because there's no way that he doesn't know 706 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 1: and just sits there. In my opinion, and that's what 707 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 1: having information is such a powerful thing. You were drafted 708 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,319 Speaker 1: in the fifth round. What kind of draft party did 709 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 1: you have when you were selected? Dan, I had a 710 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 1: depressing one, dude. Like, first of all, my draft was 711 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:41,319 Speaker 1: old school, so it was two days, rounds one through 712 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 1: three Friday, and then rounds four through seven on Saturday 713 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,319 Speaker 1: or no Saturday Sunday. Excuse me, I thought I was 714 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,440 Speaker 1: going to get drafted on like the third round, the 715 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 1: last pick of the third round. I did, and obviously, 716 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 1: the last pick of the third round was Maurice Clarette 717 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 1: who was coming off of a year of not playing 718 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 1: and had some off the field stuff, and I got furious. 719 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,760 Speaker 1: I was like, how's this guy drafted? And I wasn't, 720 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 1: so I hung on the next day, shattered my phone 721 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 1: like a child, you know. It was angry, and then 722 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 1: finally got the call, wait, you broke your phone. Shattered 723 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,280 Speaker 1: my phone when that pick was made, shattered it against 724 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:19,319 Speaker 1: the ground, which is stupid. The next day so I 725 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 1: have to go to the rising store the next morning, 726 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 1: super early. I'm waiting there for the worker to come 727 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,440 Speaker 1: to open up the store and get a new phone. 728 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 1: My agent's trying to call me and he's like, hey, 729 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,880 Speaker 1: you'll you'll go off the board soon. Here. That doesn't happen, obviously, 730 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,400 Speaker 1: because I went in the fifth round. So I'm angry, 731 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 1: I'm bitter um And then finally the call comes. It 732 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 1: was coach mary Uchi, who actually got to see yesterday 733 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,799 Speaker 1: much and it went from like anger to joy, which 734 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 1: was awesome. Celebrated that night for Sherwoods some friends, but 735 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 1: you know it was a unique one who told you 736 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 1: they were going to draft you and they didn't. Seattle, 737 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:57,760 Speaker 1: Seattle in the third round. Seattle in the third round 738 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 1: called me and told me we're drafting you. I think 739 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,279 Speaker 1: it was the eighty second pick, if I'm correct, and 740 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,840 Speaker 1: said we're gonna take you. I'm sitting there watching the television, 741 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,360 Speaker 1: and they took David Green. Remember the lefty out of 742 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,400 Speaker 1: Georgia who was really good in college, David Green, the 743 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:17,919 Speaker 1: lefty quarterback. I don't remember it. Yeah. So not only 744 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:19,920 Speaker 1: did they tell me they were taking me at eighty 745 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 1: two and didn't, but they also took a quarterback, Yeah, 746 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 1: Paul David Green never played a snap in the NFL. Yeah, 747 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,480 Speaker 1: I mean a little bitter sweet. And then I was 748 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 1: sitting there like, well, I gotta go. So then New 749 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,239 Speaker 1: Orleans took like Adrian McPherson, and I was like, what 750 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,279 Speaker 1: the heck? And I think the Panthers took Stefan the 751 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,320 Speaker 1: fours and I'm like, what is it? So like ninety 752 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 1: seven quarterbacks went ahead of Kyle Orton went ahead of 753 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,920 Speaker 1: you ko who and Kyle Orton is the reason I 754 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 1: didn't go to Purdue. So when Kyle Lurton goes ahead 755 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,800 Speaker 1: of me, I'm like, wait, I didn't go to Purdue 756 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:59,759 Speaker 1: because the Orton I got drafted later than Yeah, but 757 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:04,440 Speaker 1: who are those guys. They're not on NFL Live. Yeah right, yeah, yeah, 758 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:08,360 Speaker 1: because Orton made a lot more money than me. That's why. Yeah. Hey, 759 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,279 Speaker 1: great to talk to you. Have fun today and enjoy 760 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 1: the weekend. Thank you, Dan, Thanks, but good to see you. 761 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:18,000 Speaker 1: That's Dan Orlovsky, ESPN NFL analysts. Be sure to catch 762 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,799 Speaker 1: the live edition of The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at 763 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 1: nine am Eastern six am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 764 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,160 Speaker 1: and the iHeartRadio app.