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What is that? 0:01:28.120 --> 0:01:32.880 My breaking bad tribute? This is about Matt I've always 0:01:33.040 --> 0:01:36.320 is not what that shows about you? Do that. I 0:01:36.360 --> 0:01:38.039 saw the first couple of episodes. I was like, Hey, 0:01:38.080 --> 0:01:39.960 that's pretty good, and I don't have time in my 0:01:40.000 --> 0:01:42.760 life for this right now? Yeah I didn't either. Um, 0:01:42.800 --> 0:01:46.080 but I'm marathoning it now and I have gotten through 0:01:46.440 --> 0:01:49.160 halfway through season four and there's how many What did 0:01:49.200 --> 0:01:53.200 they just they're on real time now? Oh, they started it. 0:01:53.200 --> 0:01:55.080 It's not over. I thought there was like a finale. 0:01:55.560 --> 0:01:57.320 I think it's some in two parts. I think they 0:01:57.320 --> 0:01:59.360 did the first eight and then they're taking a break, 0:01:59.360 --> 0:02:02.960 and then the last eight of season five. Oh, that's 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:05.720 the end. I think that if I understand that is 0:02:05.760 --> 0:02:07.600 the end of the series. Well, why don't you tell 0:02:07.640 --> 0:02:09.480 everybody what happens at the end? I don't know yet. 0:02:09.520 --> 0:02:11.679 Let's tell everybody what happens at the end of season's one, two, 0:02:11.760 --> 0:02:13.639 or three. You know, they took a lot of meth 0:02:13.680 --> 0:02:16.040 and sell a lot of meth and people get killed 0:02:16.360 --> 0:02:19.959 spoiler alert, Yes, um and you end up talking like 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:23.520 Jesse Pinkman. If you watch the show, if you watch 0:02:24.080 --> 0:02:26.800 eighteen episodes over the course of four days, you end 0:02:26.880 --> 0:02:28.800 up saying a lot of things like fat stacks and 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:32.519 what up? Yo? What is a fat stack? Money? Yeah? Okay? 0:02:32.760 --> 0:02:35.480 And I would call you the name for female dog 0:02:35.600 --> 0:02:40.280 because he uses that word about eight times an episode. Really. Yeah, gosh, 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:46.040 the potty mouth on TV today. That's cable. Yeah, we're cable. 0:02:46.320 --> 0:02:48.640 We don't say things like that because we're clean. Boys. 0:02:48.800 --> 0:02:53.799 You said female song. Oh god, I feel like we're 0:02:53.840 --> 0:02:57.760 on our way to baseball practice. Uh so, yeah, we 0:02:57.840 --> 0:03:00.840 are talking meth breaking bets on the only Have you 0:03:00.840 --> 0:03:03.320 ever seen the Salt and Sea? Yeah? Boy, that was 0:03:03.360 --> 0:03:06.560 good man. Um Spun never saw that one, but I 0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:09.280 know that one's about math. That was okay, um Spun 0:03:09.400 --> 0:03:10.480 is a little tough to watch. It was one of 0:03:10.520 --> 0:03:12.760 those that's like, we want to take you inside the 0:03:12.800 --> 0:03:17.080 mind of a math user, like yeah, um American Pie 0:03:17.120 --> 0:03:24.799 two uh, porkies, Yeah, yeah, jaws too, all about math. 0:03:24.960 --> 0:03:28.160 All of them about meth um, which is surprising because 0:03:28.200 --> 0:03:32.720 a lot of those aren't. But if you um wanted 0:03:32.760 --> 0:03:35.720 to know everything there is to know about meth without 0:03:35.800 --> 0:03:39.280 using it. You have turned to the right place because 0:03:39.320 --> 0:03:43.160 this episode covers meth pretty hard. And that's my recommended 0:03:43.240 --> 0:03:45.520 version of getting to know about math. Just did not 0:03:45.600 --> 0:03:48.000 use it ever and just to listen to us talk 0:03:48.040 --> 0:03:50.000 about how awful it is. But you're still gonna feel 0:03:50.000 --> 0:03:52.080 pretty freezy by the end of this episode. You know, 0:03:52.120 --> 0:03:58.080 because my boy Tom Sheaf Yeah, the female dog. Uh. 0:03:58.920 --> 0:04:02.160 He he wrote a article on me. I asked him once. 0:04:02.200 --> 0:04:03.720 I was like, what are some of your favorite articles, 0:04:03.760 --> 0:04:06.800 because I was looking for once to to do episodes. 0:04:06.800 --> 0:04:09.440 He's like meth. He's like, it was really good, and 0:04:09.440 --> 0:04:13.000 then he launched into this discussion about the history of it, 0:04:13.000 --> 0:04:16.120 which is pretty fascinating. Awesome. So let's talk about myth. 0:04:17.200 --> 0:04:20.240 If you do a little bit of meth, how long 0:04:20.279 --> 0:04:24.040 will you be high for Chuck? Uh, Well, it depends 0:04:24.040 --> 0:04:25.800 what you call a little bit, but it could be 0:04:26.120 --> 0:04:30.000 anywhere from three to six hours to twenty four hours, 0:04:30.800 --> 0:04:32.279 or if you keep using it, you could be up 0:04:32.320 --> 0:04:35.599 for days. Yeah, which is apparently something that people like 0:04:35.680 --> 0:04:39.200 to do. Uh. They don't just take a hit of meth. 0:04:39.520 --> 0:04:42.240 I've seen hit There was this front Line there's a 0:04:42.279 --> 0:04:46.039 front Line micro site about the meth epidemic, and they 0:04:46.120 --> 0:04:48.400 kept calling it a hit, and I'm like, what is 0:04:48.440 --> 0:04:51.719 a hit? Oh yeah, they call it the little baggy 0:04:51.839 --> 0:04:54.040 that you buy on the street. That call it something 0:04:54.040 --> 0:04:57.039 I'm breaking back. I can't remember at stacks. Now that's 0:04:57.040 --> 0:05:00.359 the money you make them selling it female dog. Nope, 0:05:00.880 --> 0:05:03.840 that's everyone on the show. I don't know that. We'll 0:05:03.920 --> 0:05:06.040 probably called it a hit. But if you, if you 0:05:06.279 --> 0:05:09.320 do meth frequently, you're not going to just you know, 0:05:09.520 --> 0:05:11.359 take a hit of meth and then be like, well 0:05:11.400 --> 0:05:13.920 that's it for me. Yeah, I'm gonna go to work 0:05:13.960 --> 0:05:16.520 and I'm fine, don't ever need to do this again. 0:05:16.880 --> 0:05:19.359 You know, you'll be like, oh, half hours passed. I 0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:21.120 think I should do maybe a little more and then 0:05:21.120 --> 0:05:23.240 a little more and I'm up for eight days in 0:05:23.240 --> 0:05:27.320 a row until my body blacks out and I fall 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:30.320 over and get some sleep. Can we talk street names 0:05:30.320 --> 0:05:37.200 real quick? Sure, because that's always fun. Meth crank, speed, chalk, 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:44.400 ice glass, crystal, crystal, meth, tina really um tweak. I 0:05:44.440 --> 0:05:47.400 lived in Human, Arizona, as you know, lots of math 0:05:47.520 --> 0:05:51.640 users there. Um you can tell oh yeah, you tell 0:05:51.720 --> 0:05:54.160 me that one story? Was it that? Like the washing? 0:05:54.160 --> 0:05:56.880 The car. Yeah, You're like, I'd be going home from 0:05:56.920 --> 0:05:59.799 you know, a saloon at two thirty in the morning 0:06:00.240 --> 0:06:02.800 and there's people out washing their cars under the floodlights, 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:05.040 and you're like, no, that's not really funny. You wonder 0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:08.320 what's going on there or their gardening or something with 0:06:08.640 --> 0:06:12.320 floodlights on. Um. Anyway, Yuma's got a lot of drugs. 0:06:12.360 --> 0:06:15.960 I mean, it's like a mile from Mexico. UM. And 0:06:16.080 --> 0:06:20.240 they called it tweak. They called like it could be tweak, 0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:22.400 could be the noun for the drug, like get some 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:26.320 tweak a tweaker or was someone who did it? Um 0:06:26.480 --> 0:06:30.880 tom sites a state that you eventually, yeah, is tweaking. Yeah, 0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:33.200 that's why I took a slight issue because in Uma 0:06:33.279 --> 0:06:35.479 they were just called tweakers. It was called tweaking. It's 0:06:35.480 --> 0:06:38.360 called tweak. Um do you want to tweak? It could 0:06:38.360 --> 0:06:42.120 be a verb or we are tweaking. It's been quite 0:06:42.200 --> 0:06:45.520 some time since I've tweaked. It's been a week since 0:06:45.560 --> 0:06:49.360 I've tweaked. Yeah, So they used to tweak for basically 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:51.120 every facet. And I don't know if that was a 0:06:51.200 --> 0:06:55.200 regional thing or not. Ghack, that's another one. Really, it's 0:06:55.240 --> 0:06:58.240 an ugly word. Crank was the old days. That was 0:06:58.320 --> 0:07:01.960 like that's when the motorcycle, yea bike or crank yeah, 0:07:02.160 --> 0:07:05.440 or rucker crank. Yeah, all those days like we were 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:09.680 you know, in the Hell's Angels were taking greenies. Greenies 0:07:09.720 --> 0:07:14.040 for this speed, like pharmaceutical speed. Yeah, that's what. Until 0:07:14.160 --> 0:07:18.840 two thousand six, baseball players were very famous for taking greenies. Real. Yeah, 0:07:20.280 --> 0:07:22.720 and a lot of athletes actually have been known to 0:07:22.760 --> 0:07:27.240 abuse amphetamines because you know, jacksie up and you win 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:31.400 the race. Yeah, you know, ye, all right, that's enough 0:07:31.520 --> 0:07:35.840 for the street names. Okay. Um, Meth happens to be 0:07:35.920 --> 0:07:39.800 highly addictive, and it's highly addictive following the same route 0:07:39.800 --> 0:07:47.200 that any stimulant addicts you with. I think that was correct. Ultimately, Um, 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:51.320 it stimulates your central nervous system to produce dopamine, and 0:07:51.480 --> 0:07:54.360 your brain is flooded with dopamine. So all of a sudden, 0:07:54.400 --> 0:07:58.920 you have um hyperactive movement because dopamine controls and regulates 0:07:59.000 --> 0:08:03.240 movement of your body. Yeah, um, you feel really really 0:08:03.240 --> 0:08:08.120 good because dopamines related to feelings of euphoria and a 0:08:08.160 --> 0:08:14.920 sense of well being. Um, and you your emotions may 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:22.440 become heightened. Yeah yeah, thanks, I think so. Um. The 0:08:22.480 --> 0:08:27.040 problem is, as with all, um all drugs, really is 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:31.680 that you cannot naturally reproduce the sensation, so you do 0:08:31.800 --> 0:08:34.280 more of the drug and then, like with all drugs, 0:08:34.280 --> 0:08:36.320 your tolerance builds up and you need more of it 0:08:36.360 --> 0:08:40.640 to reach that sensation that you're striving for. There you 0:08:40.679 --> 0:08:43.720 have it. You're addicted to meth, right and um. The 0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:47.680 downside of that, aside from spending extra money to get 0:08:47.679 --> 0:08:51.679 to the same place, it's about a million downsides, right, um, 0:08:51.800 --> 0:08:54.080 is that if you ever do decide to quit meth, 0:08:54.760 --> 0:08:59.240 your dopamine receptors have shrunk. The number of dopamine receptors 0:08:59.240 --> 0:09:01.600 in your brain of s they don't function quite as well. 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:05.400 And um, you are dopamine deficient, which means that when 0:09:05.400 --> 0:09:07.080 you get off the meth, which is the only thing 0:09:07.120 --> 0:09:10.880 that's really increasing your dopamine levels any longer, you're going 0:09:10.920 --> 0:09:16.439 to encounter sensations of utter hopelessness and depression, and that 0:09:16.600 --> 0:09:20.040 will likely feedback into a vicious cycle where you go 0:09:20.120 --> 0:09:23.440 back onto meth so that you can not feel depressed 0:09:23.520 --> 0:09:26.400 or hopeless any longer. So it's very very tough to 0:09:27.040 --> 0:09:29.680 um quit that cycle of addiction. If you want to 0:09:29.679 --> 0:09:34.120 know more about addiction. We did a pretty cool yeah 0:09:34.360 --> 0:09:39.880 UM episode on addiction itself. But yeah, it's pretty standard stuff. Yeah. 0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:42.880 And the good news is your dopamine levels will over 0:09:42.960 --> 0:09:48.960 time UM reset to normal UM in pretty much all cases. 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:51.920 I did see that they one of these surveys are 0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:54.800 not surveys but studies. They found that even a couple 0:09:54.840 --> 0:09:59.840 of years after ceasing it, UM, the brain did not 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:03.960 cover in some areas after two years of abstinence, so 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:07.920 there could be some like long lasting maybe not permanent, 0:10:07.920 --> 0:10:11.920 I don't want to say that word, but long lasting effects. Um. 0:10:12.080 --> 0:10:14.120 If you get your hands on some meth and you're like, 0:10:14.160 --> 0:10:16.600 I'm gonna do this. There are generally four ways that 0:10:16.640 --> 0:10:19.320 people take meth. The most common is to snort it. 0:10:19.960 --> 0:10:23.280 The second um is to smoke it, third is to 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:26.320 shoot it. And then some people take it orally, which 0:10:26.360 --> 0:10:31.040 I can only imagine will cause stomach ulcers. Too sweet, Yeah, 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:35.839 because this is really really toxic stuff. Yes, at the 0:10:35.920 --> 0:10:40.360 very least, Um, if you're smoking it, you will get 0:10:40.400 --> 0:10:44.160 something called meth mouth. Yes, and if you are not 0:10:44.200 --> 0:10:47.600 around your dinner right now, you can go google image 0:10:47.640 --> 0:10:50.080 pictures of meth mouth and is tough to look at. Yeah, 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:52.200 if you ever want to never ever do meth, then 0:10:52.280 --> 0:10:55.840 to look at pictures of that or google uh meth 0:10:55.920 --> 0:10:59.080 before after, Oh the mug shots. Did you see the 0:10:59.080 --> 0:11:02.480 one that? So it's a public service announcement. The sheriff 0:11:02.679 --> 0:11:10.600 in Arizona, Oregon. It was some sheriff's deputy started noticing 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:14.960 people coming in um that we're on meth and realizing 0:11:15.000 --> 0:11:16.720 that this is like their second or third or fourth 0:11:16.720 --> 0:11:20.800 time in and he started collecting their mug shots and 0:11:20.840 --> 0:11:24.600 created this basically like before and after of mug shots 0:11:24.600 --> 0:11:26.800 of people who do meth, and like the results are 0:11:27.200 --> 0:11:30.760 staggering because it also has the length of time in 0:11:30.800 --> 0:11:33.400 between the pictures, so sometimes two months, sometimes two and 0:11:33.400 --> 0:11:37.040 a half years, and people age like ten twenty years 0:11:37.040 --> 0:11:38.599 and like a year or two just from doing a 0:11:38.679 --> 0:11:42.320 math hardcore and meth mouth in particular is really, like 0:11:42.400 --> 0:11:45.520 Chuck says, extremely disgusting and hard to look at. I've 0:11:45.520 --> 0:11:48.600 seen some pictures of some pretty horrible stuff in my lifetime, 0:11:49.559 --> 0:11:53.160 and math mouth is really tough to look at. Your 0:11:53.160 --> 0:11:55.520 teeth like fall out, crack and fall out. Yeah, first 0:11:55.559 --> 0:11:57.560 they decay, then they cracked, then they fall out, and 0:11:57.600 --> 0:12:01.720 you might have sharp, jagged little stumps with the exposed, 0:12:02.200 --> 0:12:05.600 darkened gums. And they're not quite sure exactly what causes 0:12:05.640 --> 0:12:07.920 meth mouth, but they think it's a combination of things. One, 0:12:08.240 --> 0:12:11.040 they think it's the harsh chemicals that the drug is 0:12:11.080 --> 0:12:15.520 made from. They think that um, the constriction of the 0:12:15.600 --> 0:12:19.080 capillaries and the blood vessels going to your mouth makes 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:23.679 them wither and die, so then the tissue decays and 0:12:23.720 --> 0:12:27.000 then um, they think that it also gives you dry mouth. 0:12:27.440 --> 0:12:33.760 So your saliva, so your saliva um isn't present any 0:12:33.800 --> 0:12:37.599 longer to to keep the harsh acids that the digestive 0:12:37.600 --> 0:12:40.960 acids that are present naturally in your mouth. The saliva 0:12:41.000 --> 0:12:42.720 is out there to wash it away. So they just 0:12:42.760 --> 0:12:45.600 grind down on your teeth, and then you yourself, while 0:12:45.679 --> 0:12:49.440 you're tweaking, are grinding your teeth. So those four things 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:52.520 in conjunction basically account from meth mouth. They think, Wow, 0:12:53.080 --> 0:12:58.840 it's nasty. Oh, it's nasty stuff. Um, your heart rate 0:12:58.880 --> 0:13:00.720 is gonna really shoot up. You were going to be 0:13:00.760 --> 0:13:04.120 more alert. You're gonna be breathing quicker, you'll be sweating 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:09.120 a lot, you're going to be very talkative about everything, 0:13:09.600 --> 0:13:12.600 or you're going to go into a room and sit 0:13:12.640 --> 0:13:15.720 around and rock and think about yourself in your place 0:13:15.720 --> 0:13:21.240 in the world. You might feel superhuman or intelligent or empowered. Um, 0:13:21.320 --> 0:13:26.000 you are none of those, which is the ironic thing. Um. 0:13:26.080 --> 0:13:29.160 And this one is the none of It's funny. This 0:13:29.200 --> 0:13:34.640 one is unusual. Is the mundane tasks like you hear 0:13:34.679 --> 0:13:37.079 reports of like methods who take apart their television and 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:41.440 put it back together the time. Um. But there's a 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:43.839 breaking this won't spell anything. There's a breaking bad scene 0:13:43.840 --> 0:13:47.640 where where Jesse's trying to get some tweakers out of 0:13:47.679 --> 0:13:50.680 out of a house into the front yard and he 0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:52.400 goes and gets a shovel and the guys like, what 0:13:52.440 --> 0:13:54.560 are you doing. He's like, I know, I can't remember 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:58.240 what he called him, I know methods and he might dogs. Yeah, 0:13:58.320 --> 0:14:00.280 And he went and started digging a whole the front 0:14:00.360 --> 0:14:02.040 yard and one of him just comes out and he's like, 0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:04.720 what are you doing. He's like, what does it look like? 0:14:04.720 --> 0:14:06.760 I'm digging this hole? Man, I gotta find it. And 0:14:06.760 --> 0:14:08.719 the guy just kind of wanders out looking and then 0:14:08.720 --> 0:14:11.040 he's like, you mind taking over, And all of a sudden, 0:14:11.040 --> 0:14:13.560 it's dude he's never met before, is out there just 0:14:13.559 --> 0:14:16.840 digging this hole. To China, and that's like the mundane 0:14:16.880 --> 0:14:20.080 task you can get a meth head preoccupied with and 0:14:20.120 --> 0:14:24.720 they will put together that puzzle for two days. Tom 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:28.480 points out that this is that makes us very alluring 0:14:28.560 --> 0:14:32.480 for somebody who's say an assembly line worker who has 0:14:32.520 --> 0:14:35.280 to do repetitive tasks for eight hours at a stretch. 0:14:36.360 --> 0:14:38.680 Once they do met, they're suddenly like, Wow, this is 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:42.800 really fascinating work that I do here. And also the 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:45.480 time just went by lickety split, and now I can 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:48.840 go do more maths. Right, yeah, let's go party, because 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:52.560 that's you know, that's your workhead stash that you keep 0:14:52.560 --> 0:14:56.200 your party and stash at home. I would guess. Um. 0:14:56.280 --> 0:14:59.440 In addition to the mush mouth um, one thing you'll 0:14:59.440 --> 0:15:01.360 see a lot on Breaking Bad and in the photos 0:15:01.440 --> 0:15:06.040 is these scabby lesions on your face. And I wasn't 0:15:06.040 --> 0:15:07.600 sure what that was. I thought it might be somewhat 0:15:07.600 --> 0:15:09.680 the chemicals or the burning. I think it's a little 0:15:09.720 --> 0:15:13.440 of that too. Well, it's also just scratching, scratching your face, 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:15.480 scratching your face, scratching her face until I have a 0:15:15.480 --> 0:15:18.240 hole in my cheek. But I think it starts out 0:15:18.320 --> 0:15:21.720 with an actual blemish from the chemicals, like was it 0:15:21.920 --> 0:15:27.280 being excreted through your skin? Um, you're probably not going 0:15:27.320 --> 0:15:32.560 to ever get really fat if you are addicted to meth. Um, 0:15:32.600 --> 0:15:36.960 you're you're appetite just like not there. Um. So yeah, 0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:40.160 a lot of people like the I guess that effect 0:15:40.160 --> 0:15:42.720 of it. If they feel fat but they don't really 0:15:42.720 --> 0:15:45.760 care about their teeth, then meth probably seems like a 0:15:45.760 --> 0:15:48.760 logical alternative. Well, and we'll get into this, but it 0:15:48.880 --> 0:15:53.080 was speed is what diet bills were for many many years. Um. 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:56.840 And eventually, if you stay on the meth, you will 0:15:56.880 --> 0:16:02.920 eventually freaking lose your mind basically, and you will hear 0:16:03.000 --> 0:16:08.800 things and see things and experience psychosis and hallucinations and uh. 0:16:09.360 --> 0:16:11.480 Part of that is the drug at work, and part 0:16:11.480 --> 0:16:16.480 of that is beating your body up and being yeah, yeah, 0:16:16.680 --> 0:16:18.560 eventually it will get the best of you. There is 0:16:18.600 --> 0:16:22.000 no rosy outcome, yeah, if you're doing math. But what's 0:16:22.080 --> 0:16:25.240 nuts about meth is that, like it is all of 0:16:25.800 --> 0:16:30.440 Nancy Reagan's FIBs and distortions and outright lies about other 0:16:30.520 --> 0:16:34.680 drugs brought to life, like you really do murder your 0:16:34.680 --> 0:16:37.360 loved one with a claw hammer because you perceive them 0:16:37.400 --> 0:16:40.600 to be the devil, like you really do, like um, 0:16:41.040 --> 0:16:44.480 scald your your three year old niece to death with 0:16:44.520 --> 0:16:46.800 hot water because you've been up for too many days 0:16:46.800 --> 0:16:50.360 to know what you're doing, Like you do steal a 0:16:50.400 --> 0:16:52.960 tank and drive it through downtown San Diego and then 0:16:53.000 --> 0:16:56.280 are shot to death by the police. Like that stuff 0:16:56.680 --> 0:17:00.960 happens on meth. No, lie, no exagger ration. Yeah that 0:17:01.000 --> 0:17:03.320 I think I meant to look this up. It seemed 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:04.919 like recently I read a story about this lady that 0:17:04.960 --> 0:17:08.840 broke into Walmart, or not broke in, but in Walmart 0:17:08.920 --> 0:17:12.080 through the door. Yeah, I'm I'm in Walmart, um now 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:15.440 and started to try and cook meth in the Walmart. 0:17:16.119 --> 0:17:18.560 She was so messed up, she got all the ingredients 0:17:18.560 --> 0:17:21.160 and started the process. I might be wrong, but it's 0:17:21.200 --> 0:17:23.120 one I remember reading that l well. I think that's 0:17:23.119 --> 0:17:25.040 one of the problems. One of the big dangers with 0:17:25.119 --> 0:17:29.040 meth is there's so many, so many addicts who know 0:17:29.200 --> 0:17:32.359 how to make the drug that they're addicted to. Like you, 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:34.880 if you're a junkie, you can't just make your own 0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:38.439 heroin like you have to harvest poppies, or if you 0:17:38.640 --> 0:17:41.800 are coke heead, you can't like where you're gonna get 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:45.800 your coca leaves, you know, like meth is made from 0:17:46.359 --> 0:17:48.520 what used to be, at least until a couple of 0:17:48.560 --> 0:17:51.760 years ago, readily available ingredients. All right, you know, it's 0:17:51.760 --> 0:17:54.080 just sad. I looked up meth and Walmart and it's 0:17:54.080 --> 0:17:57.119 happened more than once. It was like a woman in St. Louis, 0:17:57.119 --> 0:17:59.520 a man in Ohio like cooking, trying to cook meth 0:17:59.560 --> 0:18:01.720 inside of a store. That's crazy, while it was open 0:18:01.840 --> 0:18:04.480 or closed. I think the one lady was while was 0:18:04.520 --> 0:18:08.639 open successful. Don't don't mind me, I'm just shopping for 0:18:08.720 --> 0:18:15.280 tents and uh so, okay, let's talk about the history 0:18:15.280 --> 0:18:21.680 of meth amphetamans is pretty interesting. Ah. There is a 0:18:21.760 --> 0:18:24.359 rumor that I had heard years and years ago that 0:18:24.480 --> 0:18:27.760 it was the Nazis who came up with meth, and 0:18:27.800 --> 0:18:29.800 as I grew a little older, I was like, that's 0:18:29.840 --> 0:18:32.800 not true, and it turns out it isn't true. But 0:18:33.000 --> 0:18:37.240 what is true is that the Nazis supplied their infantrymen, 0:18:37.400 --> 0:18:41.560 their airmen, their sailors, everybody in the German military during 0:18:41.600 --> 0:18:46.160 World War Two with tons of meth amphetamines. Like they 0:18:46.160 --> 0:18:50.320 were jacked up on meth and fighting, which is the 0:18:50.359 --> 0:18:54.560 most psychotic idea I've ever heard. The Nazis on meth 0:18:54.640 --> 0:18:57.560 sounds like a some sort of speed metal band or something, 0:18:57.960 --> 0:19:01.400 you know, or like a weird musical. Yeah, it says 0:19:01.440 --> 0:19:04.399 this one stat in one four four month period in 0:19:05.200 --> 0:19:08.480 German military was fed more than thirty five million speed tablets. 0:19:09.800 --> 0:19:12.560 Thirty five million speed tablets in the four month period 0:19:14.320 --> 0:19:16.959 fighting the war. Can you imagine? And it wasn't just 0:19:17.040 --> 0:19:18.800 us though, I mean, I'm sorry, it wasn't just them. No, 0:19:19.359 --> 0:19:23.040 Americans and the Brits were what was it, dexadrine, dexadrine 0:19:23.080 --> 0:19:25.840 and benza drene. And then the Japanese had their own 0:19:25.920 --> 0:19:31.120 kind of crank um military grade yeah, crazy, yeah, And 0:19:31.200 --> 0:19:33.160 so there was that was a big thing in World 0:19:33.200 --> 0:19:36.240 War two, was supplying the boys on the line with 0:19:36.280 --> 0:19:39.359 as much meth as they could possibly take and keeping 0:19:39.400 --> 0:19:42.480 them up and angry, keeping them eating less so they 0:19:42.480 --> 0:19:45.320 were consuming less food like that. Think about that, yeah, um, 0:19:45.400 --> 0:19:48.920 and just turning them into basically like literal fighting machines. 0:19:49.000 --> 0:19:52.680 Almost wow, I did see that. The apparently the Germans 0:19:52.680 --> 0:19:55.160 tested it at first and found a soldier in March 0:19:55.200 --> 0:19:59.399 fifty five miles before an hour before collapsing basically like 0:19:59.440 --> 0:20:02.520 without Yeah, and this the Germans had this thing called 0:20:03.080 --> 0:20:07.879 per viting pervitin or proviting probably pervitin, and that was 0:20:07.920 --> 0:20:09.800 their meth. And apparently towards the end of the war 0:20:09.840 --> 0:20:12.440 they were like, Okay, the providing's working pretty good, but 0:20:12.520 --> 0:20:14.360 let's see what we can do to really jack these 0:20:14.400 --> 0:20:17.320 guys up. And they the Nazi scientists cam up with 0:20:17.520 --> 0:20:21.880 d I X and it was three milligrams of providing 0:20:22.119 --> 0:20:24.960 mixed with five milligrams with cocaine and five milligrams of 0:20:24.960 --> 0:20:28.159 a pain killer all combined. And apparently this thing never 0:20:28.320 --> 0:20:32.560 got our hit the street because the Allies. The Allies 0:20:32.920 --> 0:20:36.840 invaded and probably did it all whatever they could find, 0:20:37.720 --> 0:20:40.200 and it went away. It was wiped off the face 0:20:40.240 --> 0:20:43.040 of the earth. Cocaine, meth and pain killer in a pill. Yeah, 0:20:43.680 --> 0:20:47.160 that's crazy. But we should go back even further. Prior 0:20:47.200 --> 0:20:51.479 to World War two, uh, thousands of years ago in China, 0:20:51.600 --> 0:20:55.520 in India and Pakistan, there were trees, a group of 0:20:55.520 --> 0:21:01.120 shrubs known as a fedra. Yeah, they have a an 0:21:01.160 --> 0:21:05.560 active ingredient that was isolated in eighteen eighty seven by 0:21:05.600 --> 0:21:11.840 a Japanese chemist, ephedrine. It's an amphetamine and uh, shortly 0:21:11.880 --> 0:21:17.520 after that, um, somebody turned ephedrin into a methamphetamine by 0:21:17.520 --> 0:21:20.359 adding a methyl group to it, and then after that 0:21:20.480 --> 0:21:26.440 somebody turned it into crystal methamphetamine, which is meth. Yeah. 0:21:26.480 --> 0:21:28.840 That's a long crystal meths has been around. Yeah, it 0:21:28.920 --> 0:21:32.960 just seems like a newer thing. Yeah, you would think, 0:21:32.960 --> 0:21:37.320 like maybe from the sixties or seventies. So after the war, 0:21:37.840 --> 0:21:41.800 after World War two, um, when everybody was on speed, 0:21:42.560 --> 0:21:45.600 people came back from the front saying, hey, we really 0:21:45.640 --> 0:21:50.120 like the speed. Uh. It became available publicly in Germany 0:21:50.240 --> 0:21:54.720 during the war. This stuff was available publicly, the pervitin. Yeah, 0:21:55.240 --> 0:21:59.280 but the dexigen and benzagrine became available in the United 0:21:59.320 --> 0:22:01.040 States I think during the war as well. But it 0:22:01.080 --> 0:22:03.800 became very popular in the fifties and sixties for like 0:22:03.840 --> 0:22:06.440 you said, a number of reasons like dieting. Well, yeah, 0:22:06.480 --> 0:22:10.040 and before that was what's scary is is they like 0:22:10.119 --> 0:22:12.920 the early drug days, we found out we're just crazy, 0:22:13.800 --> 0:22:16.320 this crazy weird land where they were making these new 0:22:16.320 --> 0:22:20.560 things like LST and tweak And they say in the 0:22:20.600 --> 0:22:23.639 early days of crystal meth they it didn't even have 0:22:23.720 --> 0:22:27.040 a purpose yet and the people were just giving it 0:22:27.080 --> 0:22:30.639 to patients and just hey, try this out, like you 0:22:30.680 --> 0:22:33.040 need to pick me up. Like the stuff seems to 0:22:33.040 --> 0:22:36.399 work pretty well. Are you depressed? Like, try this stuff, 0:22:36.720 --> 0:22:39.399 you might not be so depressed. And uh, then it 0:22:39.400 --> 0:22:41.159 got a little more specific and they're like, all right, 0:22:41.200 --> 0:22:45.440 we can use it in any depressants and diet pills, right, legitimate, yes, 0:22:45.920 --> 0:22:47.840 you know. And so ben'za Dreen and decks of Dren 0:22:47.960 --> 0:22:51.560 came about jet Carouac wrote, um, on the road is 0:22:51.560 --> 0:22:54.240 that true? Yes, that sounds I've always heard that like 0:22:54.280 --> 0:22:56.920 a three day No, it was longer than three days. 0:22:56.920 --> 0:22:59.720 It was three weeks. I see, that was it? Yeah, 0:22:59.760 --> 0:23:02.960 But taped together a bunch of paper and that and 0:23:03.080 --> 0:23:08.160 wrote it all the way down. Um, and it turned 0:23:08.160 --> 0:23:11.560 out to be a hundred and twenty ft long. On 0:23:11.600 --> 0:23:15.320 the road was interesting. Yeah, Carowac definitely knew his way 0:23:15.320 --> 0:23:20.560 around a benny. Well he a bottle and whatever else. Yeah, 0:23:20.560 --> 0:23:23.479 he mentioned something on the road. Yeah. They they're like 0:23:23.520 --> 0:23:26.680