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All right, let's get 20 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: to it, Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh 21 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: Clark with me as always, this Charles W. Chuck Bryant, 22 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:23,320 Speaker 1: What up yo? That's written down? Even sisters? What up? 23 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 1: What up? Yo? I got my fat stacks? What is that? 24 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: My breaking bad tribute? This is about Matt I've always 25 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 1: is not what that shows about you? Do that. I 26 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 1: saw the first couple of episodes. I was like, Hey, 27 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 1: that's pretty good, and I don't have time in my 28 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: life for this right now? Yeah I didn't either. Um, 29 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: but I'm marathoning it now and I have gotten through 30 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: halfway through season four and there's how many What did 31 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: they just they're on real time now? Oh, they started it. 32 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: It's not over. I thought there was like a finale. 33 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: I think it's some in two parts. I think they 34 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: did the first eight and then they're taking a break, 35 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: and then the last eight of season five. Oh, that's 36 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: the end. I think that if I understand that is 37 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: the end of the series. Well, why don't you tell 38 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: everybody what happens at the end? I don't know yet. 39 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:11,679 Speaker 1: Let's tell everybody what happens at the end of season's one, two, 40 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 1: or three. You know, they took a lot of meth 41 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: and sell a lot of meth and people get killed 42 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:19,959 Speaker 1: spoiler alert, Yes, um and you end up talking like 43 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: Jesse Pinkman. If you watch the show, if you watch 44 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 1: eighteen episodes over the course of four days, you end 45 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 1: up saying a lot of things like fat stacks and 46 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:32,519 Speaker 1: what up? Yo? What is a fat stack? Money? Yeah? Okay? 47 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: And I would call you the name for female dog 48 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: because he uses that word about eight times an episode. Really. Yeah, gosh, 49 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: the potty mouth on TV today. That's cable. Yeah, we're cable. 50 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 1: We don't say things like that because we're clean. Boys. 51 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 1: You said female song. Oh god, I feel like we're 52 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: on our way to baseball practice. Uh so, yeah, we 53 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: are talking meth breaking bets on the only Have you 54 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: ever seen the Salt and Sea? Yeah? Boy, that was 55 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: good man. Um Spun never saw that one, but I 56 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: know that one's about math. That was okay, um Spun 57 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: is a little tough to watch. It was one of 58 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: those that's like, we want to take you inside the 59 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 1: mind of a math user, like yeah, um American Pie 60 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 1: two uh, porkies, Yeah, yeah, jaws too, all about math. 61 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: All of them about meth um, which is surprising because 62 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: a lot of those aren't. But if you um wanted 63 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: to know everything there is to know about meth without 64 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: using it. You have turned to the right place because 65 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: this episode covers meth pretty hard. And that's my recommended 66 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: version of getting to know about math. Just did not 67 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: use it ever and just to listen to us talk 68 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: about how awful it is. But you're still gonna feel 69 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: pretty freezy by the end of this episode. You know, 70 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: because my boy Tom Sheaf Yeah, the female dog. Uh. 71 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: He he wrote a article on me. I asked him once. 72 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: I was like, what are some of your favorite articles, 73 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: because I was looking for once to to do episodes. 74 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: He's like meth. He's like, it was really good, and 75 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: then he launched into this discussion about the history of it, 76 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: which is pretty fascinating. Awesome. So let's talk about myth. 77 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: If you do a little bit of meth, how long 78 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 1: will you be high for Chuck? Uh, Well, it depends 79 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: what you call a little bit, but it could be 80 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: anywhere from three to six hours to twenty four hours, 81 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 1: or if you keep using it, you could be up 82 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 1: for days. Yeah, which is apparently something that people like 83 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: to do. Uh. They don't just take a hit of meth. 84 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: I've seen hit There was this front Line there's a 85 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 1: front Line micro site about the meth epidemic, and they 86 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: kept calling it a hit, and I'm like, what is 87 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 1: a hit? Oh yeah, they call it the little baggy 88 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 1: that you buy on the street. That call it something 89 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 1: I'm breaking back. I can't remember at stacks. Now that's 90 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:00,359 Speaker 1: the money you make them selling it female dog. Nope, 91 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 1: that's everyone on the show. I don't know that. We'll 92 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 1: probably called it a hit. But if you, if you 93 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: do meth frequently, you're not going to just you know, 94 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,359 Speaker 1: take a hit of meth and then be like, well 95 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: that's it for me. Yeah, I'm gonna go to work 96 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: and I'm fine, don't ever need to do this again. 97 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,359 Speaker 1: You know, you'll be like, oh, half hours passed. I 98 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: think I should do maybe a little more and then 99 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: a little more and I'm up for eight days in 100 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: a row until my body blacks out and I fall 101 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: over and get some sleep. Can we talk street names 102 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: real quick? Sure, because that's always fun. Meth crank, speed, chalk, 103 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: ice glass, crystal, crystal, meth, tina really um tweak. I 104 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: lived in Human, Arizona, as you know, lots of math 105 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: users there. Um you can tell oh yeah, you tell 106 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 1: me that one story? Was it that? Like the washing? 107 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: The car. Yeah, You're like, I'd be going home from 108 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,799 Speaker 1: you know, a saloon at two thirty in the morning 109 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: and there's people out washing their cars under the floodlights, 110 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 1: and you're like, no, that's not really funny. You wonder 111 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: what's going on there or their gardening or something with 112 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: floodlights on. Um. Anyway, Yuma's got a lot of drugs. 113 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: I mean, it's like a mile from Mexico. UM. And 114 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: they called it tweak. They called like it could be tweak, 115 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: could be the noun for the drug, like get some 116 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: tweak a tweaker or was someone who did it? Um 117 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: tom sites a state that you eventually, yeah, is tweaking. Yeah, 118 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: that's why I took a slight issue because in Uma 119 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 1: they were just called tweakers. It was called tweaking. It's 120 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: called tweak. Um do you want to tweak? It could 121 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: be a verb or we are tweaking. It's been quite 122 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: some time since I've tweaked. It's been a week since 123 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 1: I've tweaked. Yeah, So they used to tweak for basically 124 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: every facet. And I don't know if that was a 125 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: regional thing or not. Ghack, that's another one. Really, it's 126 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: an ugly word. Crank was the old days. That was 127 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: like that's when the motorcycle, yea bike or crank yeah, 128 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: or rucker crank. Yeah, all those days like we were 129 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: you know, in the Hell's Angels were taking greenies. Greenies 130 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: for this speed, like pharmaceutical speed. Yeah, that's what. Until 131 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: two thousand six, baseball players were very famous for taking greenies. Real. Yeah, 132 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: and a lot of athletes actually have been known to 133 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: abuse amphetamines because you know, jacksie up and you win 134 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: the race. Yeah, you know, ye, all right, that's enough 135 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: for the street names. Okay. Um, Meth happens to be 136 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: highly addictive, and it's highly addictive following the same route 137 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: that any stimulant addicts you with. I think that was correct. Ultimately, Um, 138 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: it stimulates your central nervous system to produce dopamine, and 139 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: your brain is flooded with dopamine. So all of a sudden, 140 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: you have um hyperactive movement because dopamine controls and regulates 141 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: movement of your body. Yeah, um, you feel really really 142 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: good because dopamines related to feelings of euphoria and a 143 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: sense of well being. Um, and you your emotions may 144 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: become heightened. Yeah yeah, thanks, I think so. Um. The 145 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: problem is, as with all, um all drugs, really is 146 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: that you cannot naturally reproduce the sensation, so you do 147 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: more of the drug and then, like with all drugs, 148 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 1: your tolerance builds up and you need more of it 149 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: to reach that sensation that you're striving for. There you 150 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: have it. You're addicted to meth, right and um. The 151 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 1: downside of that, aside from spending extra money to get 152 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 1: to the same place, it's about a million downsides, right, um, 153 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 1: is that if you ever do decide to quit meth, 154 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: your dopamine receptors have shrunk. The number of dopamine receptors 155 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: in your brain of s they don't function quite as well. 156 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: And um, you are dopamine deficient, which means that when 157 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 1: you get off the meth, which is the only thing 158 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: that's really increasing your dopamine levels any longer, you're going 159 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:16,439 Speaker 1: to encounter sensations of utter hopelessness and depression, and that 160 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: will likely feedback into a vicious cycle where you go 161 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 1: back onto meth so that you can not feel depressed 162 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: or hopeless any longer. So it's very very tough to 163 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 1: um quit that cycle of addiction. If you want to 164 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: know more about addiction. We did a pretty cool yeah 165 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: UM episode on addiction itself. But yeah, it's pretty standard stuff. Yeah. 166 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: And the good news is your dopamine levels will over 167 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 1: time UM reset to normal UM in pretty much all cases. 168 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: I did see that they one of these surveys are 169 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: not surveys but studies. They found that even a couple 170 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 1: of years after ceasing it, UM, the brain did not 171 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: cover in some areas after two years of abstinence, so 172 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: there could be some like long lasting maybe not permanent, 173 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: I don't want to say that word, but long lasting effects. Um. 174 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: If you get your hands on some meth and you're like, 175 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this. There are generally four ways that 176 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 1: people take meth. The most common is to snort it. 177 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: The second um is to smoke it, third is to 178 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: shoot it. And then some people take it orally, which 179 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: I can only imagine will cause stomach ulcers. Too sweet, Yeah, 180 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:35,839 Speaker 1: because this is really really toxic stuff. Yes, at the 181 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: very least, Um, if you're smoking it, you will get 182 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: something called meth mouth. Yes, and if you are not 183 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: around your dinner right now, you can go google image 184 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 1: pictures of meth mouth and is tough to look at. Yeah, 185 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: if you ever want to never ever do meth, then 186 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 1: to look at pictures of that or google uh meth 187 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: before after, Oh the mug shots. Did you see the 188 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: one that? So it's a public service announcement. The sheriff 189 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: in Arizona, Oregon. It was some sheriff's deputy started noticing 190 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: people coming in um that we're on meth and realizing 191 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 1: that this is like their second or third or fourth 192 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: time in and he started collecting their mug shots and 193 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: created this basically like before and after of mug shots 194 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: of people who do meth, and like the results are 195 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: staggering because it also has the length of time in 196 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: between the pictures, so sometimes two months, sometimes two and 197 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: a half years, and people age like ten twenty years 198 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:38,599 Speaker 1: and like a year or two just from doing a 199 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 1: math hardcore and meth mouth in particular is really, like 200 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: Chuck says, extremely disgusting and hard to look at. I've 201 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: seen some pictures of some pretty horrible stuff in my lifetime, 202 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: and math mouth is really tough to look at. Your 203 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: teeth like fall out, crack and fall out. Yeah, first 204 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 1: they decay, then they cracked, then they fall out, and 205 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 1: you might have sharp, jagged little stumps with the exposed, 206 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 1: darkened gums. And they're not quite sure exactly what causes 207 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: meth mouth, but they think it's a combination of things. One, 208 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: they think it's the harsh chemicals that the drug is 209 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: made from. They think that um, the constriction of the 210 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 1: capillaries and the blood vessels going to your mouth makes 211 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 1: them wither and die, so then the tissue decays and 212 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: then um, they think that it also gives you dry mouth. 213 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: So your saliva, so your saliva um isn't present any 214 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:37,599 Speaker 1: longer to to keep the harsh acids that the digestive 215 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 1: acids that are present naturally in your mouth. The saliva 216 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 1: is out there to wash it away. So they just 217 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: grind down on your teeth, and then you yourself, while 218 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 1: you're tweaking, are grinding your teeth. So those four things 219 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: in conjunction basically account from meth mouth. They think, Wow, 220 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 1: it's nasty. Oh, it's nasty stuff. Um, your heart rate 221 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: is gonna really shoot up. You were going to be 222 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: more alert. You're gonna be breathing quicker, you'll be sweating 223 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: a lot, you're going to be very talkative about everything, 224 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: or you're going to go into a room and sit 225 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 1: around and rock and think about yourself in your place 226 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: in the world. You might feel superhuman or intelligent or empowered. Um, 227 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: you are none of those, which is the ironic thing. Um. 228 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: And this one is the none of It's funny. This 229 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: one is unusual. Is the mundane tasks like you hear 230 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:37,079 Speaker 1: reports of like methods who take apart their television and 231 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 1: put it back together the time. Um. But there's a 232 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:43,839 Speaker 1: breaking this won't spell anything. There's a breaking bad scene 233 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: where where Jesse's trying to get some tweakers out of 234 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 1: out of a house into the front yard and he 235 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: goes and gets a shovel and the guys like, what 236 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 1: are you doing. He's like, I know, I can't remember 237 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: what he called him, I know methods and he might dogs. Yeah, 238 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: And he went and started digging a whole the front 239 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: yard and one of him just comes out and he's like, 240 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: what are you doing. He's like, what does it look like? 241 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: I'm digging this hole? Man, I gotta find it. And 242 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:08,719 Speaker 1: the guy just kind of wanders out looking and then 243 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: he's like, you mind taking over, And all of a sudden, 244 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 1: it's dude he's never met before, is out there just 245 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 1: digging this hole. To China, and that's like the mundane 246 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: task you can get a meth head preoccupied with and 247 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: they will put together that puzzle for two days. Tom 248 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 1: points out that this is that makes us very alluring 249 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: for somebody who's say an assembly line worker who has 250 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: to do repetitive tasks for eight hours at a stretch. 251 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: Once they do met, they're suddenly like, Wow, this is 252 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: really fascinating work that I do here. And also the 253 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: time just went by lickety split, and now I can 254 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: go do more maths. Right, yeah, let's go party, because 255 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: that's you know, that's your workhead stash that you keep 256 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: your party and stash at home. I would guess. Um. 257 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: In addition to the mush mouth um, one thing you'll 258 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: see a lot on Breaking Bad and in the photos 259 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: is these scabby lesions on your face. And I wasn't 260 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: sure what that was. I thought it might be somewhat 261 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: the chemicals or the burning. I think it's a little 262 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: of that too. Well, it's also just scratching, scratching your face, 263 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: scratching your face, scratching her face until I have a 264 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: hole in my cheek. But I think it starts out 265 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: with an actual blemish from the chemicals, like was it 266 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: being excreted through your skin? Um, you're probably not going 267 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: to ever get really fat if you are addicted to meth. Um, 268 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: you're you're appetite just like not there. Um. So yeah, 269 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: a lot of people like the I guess that effect 270 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: of it. If they feel fat but they don't really 271 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: care about their teeth, then meth probably seems like a 272 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: logical alternative. Well, and we'll get into this, but it 273 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: was speed is what diet bills were for many many years. Um. 274 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 1: And eventually, if you stay on the meth, you will 275 00:15:56,880 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: eventually freaking lose your mind basically, and you will hear 276 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: things and see things and experience psychosis and hallucinations and uh. 277 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: Part of that is the drug at work, and part 278 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: of that is beating your body up and being yeah, yeah, 279 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: eventually it will get the best of you. There is 280 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: no rosy outcome, yeah, if you're doing math. But what's 281 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: nuts about meth is that, like it is all of 282 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: Nancy Reagan's FIBs and distortions and outright lies about other 283 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: drugs brought to life, like you really do murder your 284 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: loved one with a claw hammer because you perceive them 285 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: to be the devil, like you really do, like um, 286 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: scald your your three year old niece to death with 287 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: hot water because you've been up for too many days 288 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: to know what you're doing, Like you do steal a 289 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: tank and drive it through downtown San Diego and then 290 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: are shot to death by the police. Like that stuff 291 00:16:56,680 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: happens on meth. No, lie, no exagger ration. Yeah that 292 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: I think I meant to look this up. It seemed 293 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:04,919 Speaker 1: like recently I read a story about this lady that 294 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: broke into Walmart, or not broke in, but in Walmart 295 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: through the door. Yeah, I'm I'm in Walmart, um now 296 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 1: and started to try and cook meth in the Walmart. 297 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: She was so messed up, she got all the ingredients 298 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 1: and started the process. I might be wrong, but it's 299 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,120 Speaker 1: one I remember reading that l well. I think that's 300 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: one of the problems. One of the big dangers with 301 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: meth is there's so many, so many addicts who know 302 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 1: how to make the drug that they're addicted to. Like you, 303 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 1: if you're a junkie, you can't just make your own 304 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:38,439 Speaker 1: heroin like you have to harvest poppies, or if you 305 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: are coke heead, you can't like where you're gonna get 306 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: your coca leaves, you know, like meth is made from 307 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: what used to be, at least until a couple of 308 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: years ago, readily available ingredients. All right, you know, it's 309 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: just sad. I looked up meth and Walmart and it's 310 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 1: happened more than once. It was like a woman in St. Louis, 311 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: a man in Ohio like cooking, trying to cook meth 312 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: inside of a store. That's crazy, while it was open 313 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 1: or closed. I think the one lady was while was 314 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 1: open successful. Don't don't mind me, I'm just shopping for 315 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: tents and uh so, okay, let's talk about the history 316 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 1: of meth amphetamans is pretty interesting. Ah. There is a 317 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 1: rumor that I had heard years and years ago that 318 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: it was the Nazis who came up with meth, and 319 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: as I grew a little older, I was like, that's 320 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: not true, and it turns out it isn't true. But 321 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 1: what is true is that the Nazis supplied their infantrymen, 322 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: their airmen, their sailors, everybody in the German military during 323 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 1: World War Two with tons of meth amphetamines. Like they 324 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: were jacked up on meth and fighting, which is the 325 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: most psychotic idea I've ever heard. The Nazis on meth 326 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: sounds like a some sort of speed metal band or something, 327 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 1: you know, or like a weird musical. Yeah, it says 328 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 1: this one stat in one four four month period in 329 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: German military was fed more than thirty five million speed tablets. 330 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: Thirty five million speed tablets in the four month period 331 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,959 Speaker 1: fighting the war. Can you imagine? And it wasn't just 332 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: us though, I mean, I'm sorry, it wasn't just them. No, 333 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: Americans and the Brits were what was it, dexadrine, dexadrine 334 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: and benza drene. And then the Japanese had their own 335 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 1: kind of crank um military grade yeah, crazy, yeah, And 336 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 1: so there was that was a big thing in World 337 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: War two, was supplying the boys on the line with 338 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 1: as much meth as they could possibly take and keeping 339 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 1: them up and angry, keeping them eating less so they 340 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: were consuming less food like that. Think about that, yeah, um, 341 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 1: and just turning them into basically like literal fighting machines. 342 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 1: Almost wow, I did see that. The apparently the Germans 343 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 1: tested it at first and found a soldier in March 344 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 1: fifty five miles before an hour before collapsing basically like 345 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: without Yeah, and this the Germans had this thing called 346 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 1: per viting pervitin or proviting probably pervitin, and that was 347 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 1: their meth. And apparently towards the end of the war 348 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 1: they were like, Okay, the providing's working pretty good, but 349 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:14,360 Speaker 1: let's see what we can do to really jack these 350 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: guys up. And they the Nazi scientists cam up with 351 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:21,880 Speaker 1: d I X and it was three milligrams of providing 352 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: mixed with five milligrams with cocaine and five milligrams of 353 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 1: a pain killer all combined. And apparently this thing never 354 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: got our hit the street because the Allies. The Allies 355 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: invaded and probably did it all whatever they could find, 356 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 1: and it went away. It was wiped off the face 357 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: of the earth. Cocaine, meth and pain killer in a pill. Yeah, 358 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 1: that's crazy. But we should go back even further. Prior 359 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:51,479 Speaker 1: to World War two, uh, thousands of years ago in China, 360 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: in India and Pakistan, there were trees, a group of 361 00:20:55,520 --> 00:21:01,120 Speaker 1: shrubs known as a fedra. Yeah, they have a an 362 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: active ingredient that was isolated in eighteen eighty seven by 363 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: a Japanese chemist, ephedrine. It's an amphetamine and uh, shortly 364 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: after that, um, somebody turned ephedrin into a methamphetamine by 365 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 1: adding a methyl group to it, and then after that 366 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 1: somebody turned it into crystal methamphetamine, which is meth. Yeah. 367 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: That's a long crystal meths has been around. Yeah, it 368 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: just seems like a newer thing. Yeah, you would think, 369 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: like maybe from the sixties or seventies. So after the war, 370 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: after World War two, um, when everybody was on speed, 371 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: people came back from the front saying, hey, we really 372 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 1: like the speed. Uh. It became available publicly in Germany 373 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: during the war. This stuff was available publicly, the pervitin. Yeah, 374 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: but the dexigen and benzagrine became available in the United 375 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: States I think during the war as well. But it 376 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: became very popular in the fifties and sixties for like 377 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 1: you said, a number of reasons like dieting. Well, yeah, 378 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: and before that was what's scary is is they like 379 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 1: the early drug days, we found out we're just crazy, 380 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: this crazy weird land where they were making these new 381 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: things like LST and tweak And they say in the 382 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 1: early days of crystal meth they it didn't even have 383 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: a purpose yet and the people were just giving it 384 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 1: to patients and just hey, try this out, like you 385 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: need to pick me up. Like the stuff seems to 386 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 1: work pretty well. Are you depressed? Like, try this stuff, 387 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 1: you might not be so depressed. And uh, then it 388 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 1: got a little more specific and they're like, all right, 389 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 1: we can use it in any depressants and diet pills, right, legitimate, yes, 390 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: you know. And so ben'za Dreen and decks of Dren 391 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: came about jet Carouac wrote, um, on the road is 392 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: that true? Yes, that sounds I've always heard that like 393 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 1: a three day No, it was longer than three days. 394 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 1: It was three weeks. I see, that was it? Yeah, 395 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: But taped together a bunch of paper and that and 396 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 1: wrote it all the way down. Um, and it turned 397 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: out to be a hundred and twenty ft long. On 398 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: the road was interesting. Yeah, Carowac definitely knew his way 399 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: around a benny. Well he a bottle and whatever else. Yeah, 400 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,479 Speaker 1: he mentioned something on the road. Yeah. They they're like 401 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 1: a minor character almost. Yeah. I read that and Big 402 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: Sir while I was traveling through Big Big was awesome 403 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: because it had that one moment in it where he's like, 404 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: you can't fall off a mountain. It was so awesome. 405 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: It makes such understands like, sure, you can fall down 406 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: a mountain and you're probably gonna die opinion where you fall, 407 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,360 Speaker 1: but you can't fall from the top to the bottom, 408 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: like you can't fall off a mountain. I just thought 409 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: that was so neat because it like drilled right into 410 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: my head just the way he meant it to. Right then, Yeah, 411 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,959 Speaker 1: he was. He was quite the method though. Yeah he 412 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,120 Speaker 1: was speeding. Yeah, speed freak, I guess. And there they 413 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: friendly have made that to a movie. Yeah, is it 414 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: it's coming out or did it? I think very soon? 415 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 1: Who's in it? Um, because I remember being excited about it, 416 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: but well, that's Whylight girls in it, which yeah, but 417 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 1: who was playing? Uh, I can't remember who's playing? The 418 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: two guys Cassidy yeah and Jack. Well that wasn't Jack, 419 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: it was right, Yeah, that's right. I don't know, but 420 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: it was Jack and Cassidy was named somebody else. There 421 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: was Moriarty, I think it was. It's been a while either. 422 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: It looks pretty good though, you're either thinking of On 423 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 1: the Road or the Sherlock Home series. But yeah, so so. 424 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: Carolac was part of the pretty much popular American culture 425 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:50,679 Speaker 1: from housewives, two doctors to um, anybody who were hooked 426 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:56,160 Speaker 1: on Benny's or dexadrine and UM. Eventually it became quite 427 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: obvious that America was a nation of speed freaks and 428 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 1: we need to do some thing about it. So the 429 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: government stepped in and they started controlling speed. Yeah. They 430 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 1: One of the things they tried to do is control 431 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: what they call precursor chemicals, the things he used to 432 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: make the math and UM. I guess we'll get into 433 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: this later, but it hadn't really worked that well over 434 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: the years because it just we if one thing we've 435 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 1: learned is that there are certain amount of people that 436 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: want to do their drugs, there's a certain amount of 437 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 1: people that want to make them and sell them, and 438 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 1: those numbers don't really change that much over the years, 439 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,880 Speaker 1: despite laws and any efforts by the you know, legal measures, 440 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 1: it's gonna happen. So, UM, well, let's talk about the 441 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 1: seventies real quick, because I think it fits with this, 442 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: like it's a sterling example of that was the motorcycle 443 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 1: gangs like the Hell's Angels. They were making what you 444 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: would call today crank amphetamines. Alright, they were using a 445 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 1: precursor chemical called phennel two propenone and P two P 446 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: was a pool chemical and they were using it to 447 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: make crank and it worked pretty well. I mean, I 448 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: guess it made decent crank um. And the government outlawed 449 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: P two P or clamped down and regulated it's uh 450 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: it's sale and production, and so the outlaw bikers said, well, 451 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 1: we'll just have to figure something else out. I guess 452 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: some of them looked into the annals of history and 453 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: realized that if fedron was out there easily available, you 454 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: could buy it from the manufacturer illegally, and they started 455 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 1: using that. But there's a big surprise when they successfully 456 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 1: made um crank using if fedron wasn't there chuck. Yeah, 457 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: they found out this junk is twice as strong as 458 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 1: the last junk, which I guess was great news if 459 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: you were a Hell's Angel cooking speed. Yeah, I'm sure. 460 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 1: They added a methyl group and it became meth amphedamine. Basically, 461 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: that UM nineteen nineteen recipe was lost to the ages 462 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 1: and accidentally discovered by Hell's Angels. That's right, and as 463 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 1: Tom points out, that would bring the trade and illegal 464 00:26:55,400 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: speed to its jittery knees. Right. Good stuff. He's got 465 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: some this This article is definitely worth reading. Yeah. Actually 466 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: that was when P two P was under control. But 467 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:11,719 Speaker 1: you know, I had to delight everyone with his pros. Um. Well, 468 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: should we get to the brothers then, and then jump 469 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: back to how you make it? Uh? Jeseus and Luis 470 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:27,640 Speaker 1: Emma Emma's kua. I think so. They are pretty much 471 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 1: one of the big reasons why meth is such a 472 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 1: big deal right now. On the nineteen eighties, they were 473 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 1: some small time coke runners and they said, this is 474 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: pretty good, makeing a little bit of dough. But um, 475 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 1: this meths meth thing is pretty interesting, so let me 476 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: go uh import some adrin from overseas make some money. 477 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 1: A short time later, MIDnet nines, they are responsible for 478 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 1: eight of the meth in the United States of America. 479 00:27:56,600 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 1: They took over the whole scene basically, yes, well they 480 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 1: created the scene almost. They basically said, we are going to, um, 481 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: just start importing pure ephedrine from manufacturers in like India, 482 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: and they did, and they were doing this for years 483 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: and years and years. And they very very wisely would 484 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 1: order it from the factory and then routed through like 485 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 1: Europe to Mexico or South America to Mexico or it 486 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: never went through the US, so they kept the U 487 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: S customs officials out of it. Well, the U S 488 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,640 Speaker 1: still got their hands on it. One time, Uh, they 489 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: seize three point four metric tons of ephedrin and we're like, oh, okay, 490 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: now we know where this high grade speed came from. 491 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: Out of nowhere, um, and white people are killing their 492 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: friends with claw hammers. All of a sudden, it's because 493 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: of these guys who are importing this. And now all 494 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: of a sudden, this this UM thought to outlaw precursor 495 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 1: chemicals kicks back in and they started clamping down on 496 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 1: a fedron true and that made a bit of a 497 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 1: dent for a little while. But like we said, where 498 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: there is a will, there is a way, and Um, 499 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 1: despite the d e a's efforts in the American government, 500 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: you had temporary licenses granted to people selling it. Uh, 501 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 1: and the pseudo effordrin basically was like still readily available 502 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 1: because there were so many They basically said, you got 503 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 1: a register with us if you want to sell this stuff. 504 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: They were so overloaded that they couldn't even process all 505 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 1: these applications. But they were overloaded, like the people who 506 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: were illegally selling and producing a federan and selling them 507 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: to drug cartels. Applied for licenses and the d A 508 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 1: was so swampy, said, everybody just kids a temporary license. 509 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 1: So people were for a brief period legally selling a 510 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: fedron to these cartels in bulk. And imagine they were 511 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 1: making pretty good money doing it, which is why they 512 00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: kept doing it, you know. Yeah. Um, eventually that dried 513 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: up a little bit, and um, most of the stuff 514 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 1: moved to Mexico. Um in Earnest Canada, the super Labs Canada. Um, 515 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: did you say it was at Iraq or Iran? Well, 516 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: Iran's the rising star right now. They had um In 517 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 1: two thousand and eight there were two meth labs busted 518 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: in Iran, and in two thousand and ten they busted 519 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: a hundred and sixty six Wait from what to what 520 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 1: to two hundred and sixty six and two years? Yeah, 521 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: Iran's like crazy for meth right now, jeez. And apparently 522 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 1: in Japan, a graham goes for a thousand dollars, so 523 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: I bet that's where a lot of it's going to. Really, 524 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: Pakistan's big on meth. Apparently Southeast South and East Asia 525 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: are really fond of meth right now. Yeah, boy, that's scary. Um. 526 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 1: So jumping back though, Um, they tried to control the 527 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 1: sale of pseudoeprogrin more and more, and then they just 528 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 1: realized that these meth books, like the superlabs, they're not 529 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: going into grocery stores and buying pseudo weaprogroen. I don't know, 530 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: I think some of them are, Oh I don't think 531 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 1: in that quantity. Well, they're buying like cold pills in bulk, 532 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 1: they're still using that as the precursor. Yeah, but in bulk, 533 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 1: like they're not walking into right age and buying, you know, 534 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 1: three hundred boxes of cold They would probably raise some 535 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 1: red fly exactly. But um, home cooks and people that 536 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 1: are into making their own math for you know themselves, 537 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: are their friends. Um break into stores sometimes or sometimes 538 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 1: just buy um what they call blister packs. They're the 539 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 1: little pill packages with the little single pills you gotta 540 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: pop out one at a time. Uh. But they actually 541 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,719 Speaker 1: have deep blistering machines to do that for you if 542 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: you're a larger operation, which I didn't had never heard 543 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: of that. So this whole suit of federan thing, you know, 544 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 1: how you used to just be able to walk down 545 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: the aisles and you could buy a suit of FED 546 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 1: and it was right there on the shelf. Well, now 547 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 1: you have to buy it from behind the counter because 548 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 1: it's federal regulation. Like you can't just sell it out, 549 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 1: it's too easy to steal. You have to you have 550 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 1: to interact with the human being who can call the 551 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 1: d e A or the cops. You're allowed in a 552 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: lot of states, like no more than one pack. Sometimes 553 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 1: you have to show your driver's license. There's always regulations. 554 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: It's still not making much of a dent. But and 555 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 1: apparently the reason the big rub to meth home cooked 556 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 1: meth is the pharmaceutical lobby because they they're like, well, 557 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 1: we don't want our cold medicine and to only be 558 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 1: available by prescription. We're moving on this product. Yeah, but 559 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 1: in states where they they did, they did make sudo 560 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 1: FED and other like um cold medicines that have pseudo 561 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 1: federate in it h prescription only. They've seen a sharp 562 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 1: decrease in meth related crime. So that does work. Behind 563 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 1: the counter doesn't work. Prescription only apparently does work. Yeah, 564 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 1: but those are for home cooks. Um, what's the stat 565 00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 1: about the superlabs if you are buying methan United States, 566 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 1: most of that is made by the super labs. Um, 567 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 1: like you see on Breaking Bad. So now I've heard that, 568 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 1: I think this might be out of date. Apparently in 569 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: two nine, Mexico finally came to American pressure and said, okay, 570 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 1: we're just outlawing pseudo federan imports all together. And so 571 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: the Mexican cartel said, okay, well, we're just gonna move 572 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 1: all our huge operations than into smaller operations in California. 573 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 1: And now California makes more meth than the next five 574 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 1: top producing states in the country combined. Yeah, but it's 575 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 1: all smaller labs. So fun gets busted. Who cares? Which 576 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 1: makes more sense? You know? Interesting? Yeah? Yeah, because what 577 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 1: was the stat he gave that what percentage was made 578 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,719 Speaker 1: by There are only four super labs, but they were 579 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 1: making of the methods four percent of labs or super labs, 580 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 1: but they're making And apparently that was true until two 581 00:33:53,880 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 1: thousand nine. Alright, Um, you want to talk about making it? Yeah, 582 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 1: I guess we need to talk about making it. This 583 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 1: is sort of like the how to grow marijuana. Well, 584 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 1: there's some key you can tell there's key stuff left 585 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 1: out here. Yeah, I think one of But I guess 586 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 1: this means that Tom knows how to make method from 587 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 1: researching this all right, So here's how to do it, josh. Um. 588 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,360 Speaker 1: What you want to do is, if you don't have 589 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,320 Speaker 1: your meth or you're I'm sorry, you're efidrin or pseudo 590 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 1: efrogron and its powder form. You need to separate that 591 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 1: from the tablets in the cold medicine. And when you 592 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 1: do that by mixing it with a solvent, and the 593 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 1: solution is unfiltered, exposed to low temperatures, and then you 594 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 1: can remove the innert material and you're left with um, 595 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:48,840 Speaker 1: your pure pseudo efrogron or efigrin step one, step two. 596 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 1: Do you want me to handle this? You're gonna make 597 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,399 Speaker 1: me culpable. No no, Um. You you want to take 598 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 1: your your pseudo effrogen um, whether you've removed your dirt 599 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 1: materials or you have the your stuff. Um. You want 600 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:06,359 Speaker 1: to mix it with red phosphorus and hydriotic acid, which 601 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,799 Speaker 1: I don't know what that is, but red phosphorus is 602 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:10,880 Speaker 1: like match sticks. You can get that from like the 603 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,839 Speaker 1: tip of a match contains red phosphorus. That's why if 604 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 1: you see people buying lots of book matches. Then they 605 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,919 Speaker 1: might be tweaking or making specially their teeth are correct cooking. Yes, 606 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 1: Then you filter out that stuff, the red phosphorus. You're 607 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 1: gonna reuse it later. UM. And then you neutralize the 608 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:33,240 Speaker 1: remaining acid by adding a lie solution and you add 609 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 1: it just says a substance which I like. This is 610 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 1: where he gets a little vague. Um is added to 611 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:42,319 Speaker 1: bind the meth um and then you the liquid meth 612 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 1: is drained out at that point and you're left with 613 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 1: the crystalline. Is that is that the point? Now you 614 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:52,919 Speaker 1: have to you have to bubble hydrogen chloride gas, which 615 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 1: is through the toxic through the liquid math, and that 616 00:35:56,120 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 1: turns it into a crystal hydrochloride salt. Right, you're gonna 617 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 1: filter that UM. What is left is then dried out 618 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 1: and then UM and breaking bad. At least it's on 619 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 1: these sheets like cookie sheets, and they break the ice 620 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 1: as they call it, and UM or step step on it, 621 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 1: which means you add other nasty inert filler to basically 622 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,319 Speaker 1: cut the drug and make it go go further. Two 623 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 1: unwitting purchasers and snorters, and you weigh it, package it, 624 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 1: chip it out so in Japan for a thousand dollars 625 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:35,319 Speaker 1: of Graham. That's right. Um, it sounds very easy, and 626 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 1: apparently it kind of is if people walk into Walmart 627 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: and try to do it themselves. UM, the problem is 628 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 1: it's extremely dangerous, especially if you're separating um I federan 629 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,880 Speaker 1: or suit of federan from like an inert material in 630 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 1: a cold medicine. You're adding an extra step. You're also 631 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 1: adding a solvent, which is that they tend to be explosive, 632 00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 1: so you have an explosion danger. Um. You're also inhaling 633 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 1: some really toxic toxic chemicals. UM, up to you. I 634 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:08,919 Speaker 1: think thirty two different chemicals used in making meth, and 635 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 1: the byproduct itself produces six times of the actual product 636 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 1: that you're looking for. So if you produce one pound 637 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:21,800 Speaker 1: of meth amphidamine, you've produced six pounds of toxic materials 638 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 1: as a result. Do you want me to go over 639 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 1: some of these chemicals? This is what you're snorting or 640 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 1: smoking if you're doing math. Um, potentially gasoline ether paint, 641 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 1: dinner free on chloroform, camp stove fuel, uh EPs, and 642 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 1: salt red devil Lie drain cleaner, battery acid. Yeah, that's 643 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:48,760 Speaker 1: pretty bad. That's fun to snort. Myriadic acid, lithium from battery, 644 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 1: sodium metal, um epidrin, iodine. Uh did I say paint there? 645 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,880 Speaker 1: It's worth saying again. Yeah, So those are some of 646 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 1: the chemicals that and you know, breaking bad. They don't 647 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 1: use any of this stuff. That's kind of one of 648 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,239 Speaker 1: the things is the guy's a chemistry he's very proud 649 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 1: of his drugs. And they don't even use cold pills. 650 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 1: They make they start from the beginning in a chemistry sense, 651 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:15,920 Speaker 1: to make their own. Yeah. And um, it's all very 652 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 1: pure and you know, it's not full of all this gunk. 653 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 1: And it's blue, which is interesting because that is not 654 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 1: that it is a signal that it is impure. It's 655 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,800 Speaker 1: a hallmark of the show, this blue meth. But um, 656 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:32,280 Speaker 1: these days there are enterprising meth cooks that are dying 657 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,879 Speaker 1: their meth blue. And the article I read said they're 658 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,879 Speaker 1: not quite they call it smurf dope. And uh, he said, 659 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:40,719 Speaker 1: it's not clear why they're doing this. It could be 660 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 1: just to standout to market their product, or it could 661 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 1: be to throw off test like um on site UM 662 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 1: test to see if it's man. They'll drop it in 663 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 1: it turns blue, said, and some think it might be 664 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:55,239 Speaker 1: influenced by breaking bad. I wonder, Yeah, I bet you. Yeah, 665 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 1: I'm sure it is. Um. However you make it, whether 666 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:03,880 Speaker 1: it's blue, ye're adding you are creating a toxic site. 667 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 1: Very like we talked about in UM what what what 668 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 1: episode was it? I can't remember about. It was basically like, oh, 669 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:16,960 Speaker 1: crime scene remediation or crime scene something. Yeah. Um. And 670 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,800 Speaker 1: one of the things, one of the big I guess 671 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:24,440 Speaker 1: um jobs in the industry is cleaning up meth labs. Uh. 672 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:28,239 Speaker 1: Once you do this, you have pretty much rendered a 673 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,759 Speaker 1: house useless. Like Tom points out that sometimes when the 674 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 1: cops sees a meth lab and it's a house, they 675 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:38,839 Speaker 1: just won't even they'll disabandon it because they can't resell it. Yeah. 676 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 1: I mean it gets in the curtains and the carpet 677 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,319 Speaker 1: and the tiles in the wood. Um. And that's if 678 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 1: the house doesn't explode all together. The house, the camp site, 679 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:54,239 Speaker 1: the camper, the car, the trunk of the car to 680 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,040 Speaker 1: the back of the van, the motel room, the Walmart 681 00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:01,440 Speaker 1: had the aisle I'll seven at Walmart. Uh. Yeah, it's 682 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 1: pretty scary stuff. And you know, I'm breaking bad their 683 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,560 Speaker 1: scientists and chemist and they're wearing all the equipment and 684 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 1: they have or they're wearing all the gear and they 685 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,560 Speaker 1: have all the nice equipment. But that's not like these 686 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 1: these homegrown cooks are not super smart because they're doing 687 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:21,520 Speaker 1: this to begin with, and then they might be severely 688 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:25,279 Speaker 1: tweaking up for days, not thinking straight. And that's why 689 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 1: they will have explosions and try and eat dirt as 690 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,799 Speaker 1: they're dying because the taste in their mouth is so bitter, 691 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,440 Speaker 1: and uh, someone's left to clean up the mess. And 692 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,759 Speaker 1: that's what makes it the number one abused hard drug 693 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,719 Speaker 1: in the world, more than cocaine and heroin combine. Yea, 694 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 1: I saw that, and that's meth. I got a couple 695 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,880 Speaker 1: of scary stats. I guess we can finish off with 696 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:54,480 Speaker 1: some some depressing news. Um uh, I'll just summarize here. 697 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,760 Speaker 1: The overall picture is that are that there are less 698 00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:02,000 Speaker 1: new users, which is good, but the stable level of 699 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:06,960 Speaker 1: myth and fhetamine abuse is kept. It's basically there's still 700 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,759 Speaker 1: just as much meth, just fewer new users. The people 701 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:11,480 Speaker 1: that are using it are really using it more and 702 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 1: more like they're really into it. So if it's not 703 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,359 Speaker 1: going anywhere, and you know the d e A has 704 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,640 Speaker 1: it's sort of dipped in years, but risen back. It's 705 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,239 Speaker 1: just one of those things. It's like any drug, like 706 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,360 Speaker 1: cocaine has been in and out of fashion for a 707 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:30,000 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty years. It'll it'll dip down and they'll 708 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,120 Speaker 1: tout some numbers, but then I'll shoot right back up 709 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:38,279 Speaker 1: in another country. Maybe, Um, one of eighth graders, one 710 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,440 Speaker 1: point six of tenth graders, and one percent of high 711 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:45,319 Speaker 1: school seniors the lifetime have abused at least once in 712 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:49,320 Speaker 1: the prior year to the survey, which those are pretty 713 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,719 Speaker 1: low numbers, but I was hoping it would be like 714 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,480 Speaker 1: point oh one or something like that. Well America, I mean, 715 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,600 Speaker 1: if there's like twenty three million users worldwide, America's got 716 00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:01,759 Speaker 1: about two million of them. I'm mean that's pretty significant. 717 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:03,759 Speaker 1: I thought it'd be more than that. I would think 718 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:08,280 Speaker 1: so too. That's what I heard. Don't do it. Don't 719 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 1: do math. It's just a bad idea. I think that's 720 00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,920 Speaker 1: a great win and get high on life. Go for 721 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 1: a natural Hi hi hi b in yours. So that's nice, Chuck, Um. 722 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 1: If you want to learn more about meth and all 723 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,560 Speaker 1: of the myriad reason why you should not do it. 724 00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 1: You can type in meth in the search bartow stuff 725 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,480 Speaker 1: works dot com and this one goes to our drug suite. 726 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:41,040 Speaker 1: We've done M D M A L s now we have? Yeah, 727 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,040 Speaker 1: we did, we did. Uh. We talked about M D 728 00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:46,160 Speaker 1: M A and them, but not a dedicated show. It 729 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,200 Speaker 1: was pretty much a dedicated show on M D M A. Yeah. 730 00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,000 Speaker 1: We talked about LSD A bunch of times, how to 731 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:54,279 Speaker 1: grow pot Uh. Yeah, a bunch of stuff. I've that 732 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,279 Speaker 1: a few more in the Kittie Yeah, we gotta hit crack, 733 00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,520 Speaker 1: we gotta hit creck, and we gotta hit to Oh man, 734 00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,719 Speaker 1: I didn't get to use my favorite line. At the 735 00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:07,000 Speaker 1: beginning of this podcast, they talked about how ancient Chinese 736 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:12,640 Speaker 1: used to use my huiang to get their speed fixed, 737 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:19,279 Speaker 1: and well that was it these Mahoian. Yeah. I talked 738 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,799 Speaker 1: about that somewhere else, and I can't remember where because 739 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:23,080 Speaker 1: when I read it, I was like, I don't remember 740 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:28,000 Speaker 1: we joked about this before we did. Ma huang is 741 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,319 Speaker 1: a stimulant. I wonder what did we did we do 742 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:34,080 Speaker 1: like traditional Chinese medicine. At one point, I think my 743 00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,040 Speaker 1: wine might have made it that's right, Okay, I remember now, 744 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,400 Speaker 1: um wow, So I guess at some point in the 745 00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:45,080 Speaker 1: recent past I said search bar, right, so I guess 746 00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:49,080 Speaker 1: since time for listening? That right? Yes, um, quick plug 747 00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,920 Speaker 1: before we start. For my buddy Cameron Esposito, very funny comedian. 748 00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,560 Speaker 1: She is a Chicago native in is in l A now, 749 00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,800 Speaker 1: but she has started a podcast called Stand Up Mixtape. 750 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:04,759 Speaker 1: And it is cool because each podcast is like a 751 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:09,080 Speaker 1: little comedy lp in that she has moved a comedy 752 00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,960 Speaker 1: show into a studio. So instead of it some clubs, 753 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:15,160 Speaker 1: some crappy club with people clinking glasses and you know, 754 00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:20,000 Speaker 1: well that's nice, but this is like pristine, like excellent sound. 755 00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,160 Speaker 1: She host um and host one of her comedian friends, 756 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:25,879 Speaker 1: and uh, it's just good stuff. It's very funny, small, 757 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,560 Speaker 1: intimate little field. You can like feel it even though 758 00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,719 Speaker 1: you're hearing it. So that's stand Up Mixtape. Is it 759 00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:37,440 Speaker 1: available in the normal places? Yeah? iTunes? Yep. Cameron Esposito, 760 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,319 Speaker 1: go see her. She's very funny. She sports at the 761 00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:45,200 Speaker 1: side mullet All right, um, listener, mail from Asher about 762 00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:50,720 Speaker 1: just sort of clearing up the want just read it. Hey, guys, 763 00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:52,759 Speaker 1: I was a prosecutor in the Midwest into prior life, 764 00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,320 Speaker 1: so I was excited to hear your take on criminal records. 765 00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,120 Speaker 1: Your information was great all around. I wanted to clarify 766 00:44:58,200 --> 00:44:59,960 Speaker 1: one thing, though, because I used to run into it 767 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,000 Speaker 1: all the dawn time. You did Yeoman's work by mentioning 768 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:06,760 Speaker 1: that expunged is inaccurate. The records remain and are freely 769 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:10,360 Speaker 1: available to law enforcement prosecutors and government agencies, but merely 770 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,600 Speaker 1: can't easily be referenced in a subsequent court proceeding and 771 00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,640 Speaker 1: aren't publicly disclosed. However, you also mentioned that records of 772 00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,280 Speaker 1: traffic crimes are not kept as part as a person's 773 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:23,880 Speaker 1: criminal record un once the crimeo serious, like vehicular homicide. UM, 774 00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:25,440 Speaker 1: it does depend on your state, but this is a 775 00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:30,640 Speaker 1: common misconception. As prosecutor, I saw everything you've ever done 776 00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:35,000 Speaker 1: from a piddally, from as pittally as a note, seatbelt 777 00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:38,920 Speaker 1: ticket too, as major as murder. This often became relevant 778 00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,200 Speaker 1: because my office had some discretion to give you a 779 00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,799 Speaker 1: deferred sentence. Basically, you don't screw up for six months 780 00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:45,880 Speaker 1: and the charge goes away, but only if you had 781 00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:47,920 Speaker 1: a clean record. I would on a daily basis have 782 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,880 Speaker 1: people failed to disclose a speeding ticket elsewhere in the 783 00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,239 Speaker 1: state that had been expunged some years back. Then be 784 00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,640 Speaker 1: shocked that I knew about it. I love the show, 785 00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,960 Speaker 1: I just want to make sure. Ah, I just wanted 786 00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:00,680 Speaker 1: to make sure to mention this little tidbit for you 787 00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,480 Speaker 1: in case we revisit the topic. Also, I emailed you 788 00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:07,600 Speaker 1: before about your pronunciation of Nevada. Oh yeah, it still 789 00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:09,719 Speaker 1: makes me puppy cry every time you must pronounce it. 790 00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,439 Speaker 1: But unfortunately your podcast is great enough that I can 791 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,600 Speaker 1: continue to overlook it, or at least until my puppies 792 00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:24,280 Speaker 1: head explodes. I don't know what that means. Down Math Asher, Asher, 793 00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:28,880 Speaker 1: clean up buddy. Thank you for writing into UM. 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