1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: My brother uninvited me from his wedding, so I canceled 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:05,199 Speaker 1: his venue reservation. 3 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:09,120 Speaker 2: Petty if he if you can't be at his wedding, 4 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 2: there won't be a wedding. I can't go, No one can. 5 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 1: So I thirty seven Mel, have a younger brother, Tom 6 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: twenty six Mel, who's getting married in three months. A 7 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:23,959 Speaker 1: year ago, he and his fiance were planning their wedding. 8 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: They were struggling to find an affordable venue. So I 9 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: own a vacation property with the large yard that used 10 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: to be for a couple of small weddings before. So 11 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: I offered it to him as a wedding venue rent free. 12 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 2: WHOA, that's nice, dude. 13 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: You were saving half yeah of the money. 14 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 2: A lot of money on a venue. 15 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 1: My only condition was I wanted to be a part 16 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: of the wedding party, which he agreed to. Everything seems fine. 17 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: As a brother, you have a right away to be ready. 18 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, why aren't you going to be in his bar? 19 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 2: Aren't you going to be one of the grooms men already? 20 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 2: That is why did you have to pay your way 21 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 2: into the position. 22 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 1: You had to venue your way in. By the way, 23 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: this comes from aromatic coal eighty one to seventy on 24 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: the best of Reddit or updates subreddit. So last week 25 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: Tom and I got into a small argument. Really wasn't 26 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: a big deal, but a couple of days later he 27 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 1: texted me and said he and his fiance decided to 28 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:28,199 Speaker 1: downsize their wedding party and I was no longer going 29 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: to be a groomsman. 30 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 2: Well, oh, he's about to downsize your wedding. Yeah, your venue, 31 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 2: the venue's gone. You can go use a shock for 32 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 2: all He cares. 33 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: Says, you don't need that many people. Yeah, it makes sense. 34 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's less people in your wedding, so you don't need. 35 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: The space exactly. I was shocked because I thought this 36 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: was set in a stone a year ago. I called 37 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: him to ask what's going on and he said it 38 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: wasn't personal, just that they wanted to keep things small 39 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: an intimate and didn't feel like they needed me in 40 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: the wedding party. I was pretty hurt. I didn't say 41 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 1: anything at the time. Did it occurred to me, I'm 42 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 1: not important enough to be at his wedding party. Why 43 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: should I host the wedding at my place? So I 44 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: called him again and I told him that since I 45 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 1: wasn't going to be a part of the wedding. They 46 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:22,519 Speaker 1: need to find another venue. 47 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 2: I think it's petty, but I think honestly, that's kind 48 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 2: of deserved. 49 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: It was the deal. 50 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 2: That was the deal. They made the deal. If you're 51 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 2: going to back out of the deal, that's on you. 52 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: That's true. It was the deal. Tom and his fiance 53 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: are furious. They say they can't afford another venue at 54 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: this point and that I'm ruining their big day. My 55 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: parents are also upset and say I should just let 56 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: it go and still host the wedding. 57 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 2: Because everybody wants to not pay for it. They're like, oh, well, 58 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 2: we don't want our kids to have to pay for 59 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 2: their wedding, and the kids are like, we just want 60 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 2: to have our wedding for free and Hope. He's like, well, 61 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 2: you're just taking advance image of me now. 62 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. The only way I would be okay with not 63 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 1: being in the wedding party if I got a new 64 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: role that was fun. 65 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you got a new exciting role. 66 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: I'm the DJ. Now I get to call the shot, 67 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: I get to do a speech. In speech, I would 68 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: do that. I feel like I was doing them a 69 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 1: huge favor. 70 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 2: Yeah you are, You were giving them a venue for 71 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 2: free that would be so expensive. 72 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, since the most expensive for the wedding. Oh my gosh, 73 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: and they essentially uninvited me from being a part of 74 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: the most important day of their lives. I don't think 75 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: I'm in the wrong retract my offer, but now everyone 76 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: is making me feel guilty. So am I the a 77 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: ho for canceling the venue? We do have an edit edit. 78 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: This is basically an update to answer a fewer questions 79 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: I see repeatedly. Number one, why did I need to 80 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: offer to loan out my vacation house to be in 81 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: the wedding? Repeating one of my comments, My brother and 82 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: I have had a little bit of a rocky relationship 83 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: most of his life. I think it just says his 84 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: life in our life, our age difference has always been 85 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: an awkward amount, and I think he's jealous of my 86 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: success in life too. 87 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 2: Is op older. 88 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: He's like thirty seven and the brother's twenty six. 89 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 2: Ten years which does Yeah, that can be kind of 90 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 2: hard to have her relationship with your sibling when they 91 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 2: not much younger. 92 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: I hope my brothers don't think of me like that. 93 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: I'm like thirteen years older than them, eleven Yeah, Yeah, 94 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 1: I hope they don't think he's unokay. But I've climbed 95 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: in the corporate ladder pretty quickly in finance, and I 96 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: think a lot of girls he's dated have had crushes 97 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: on me, being his older brother and more successful, and 98 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:50,919 Speaker 1: that bothers him. He picks up, he picks small things 99 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: to get mad at me because it was jealousy and 100 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: I felt like if I made it a condition of 101 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: lending out my place, he would let me be in 102 00:04:58,560 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: his wedding. 103 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 2: I don't know. I think it's just like a little 104 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 2: bit weird that you like that they're not at the 105 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 2: point already to just have him be in the wedding, 106 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 2: you know, like and like without having to bribe him 107 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 2: to be in the wedding. 108 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. 109 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 2: Like, I think that it's totally not okay for the 110 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 2: brother to say after the fact, after they've he already 111 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 2: like agreed to let op be in the wedding, uh 112 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 2: if he got the wedding venue space, and then to 113 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 2: go back on the word. But I think, looking kind 114 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 2: of back on it, do you even want to you know, 115 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 2: get the ven give him the venue space if he doesn't, like, 116 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 2: if he's not really thinking of you as you know, 117 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 2: a person that he wants to be with him on 118 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 2: his special day and stuff. 119 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 1: It sounds OP wants to mend the relationship. Yeah, the 120 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: relationship is very transactional. Yes, I'm successful. The brother is 121 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: just that he's successful. It's all in terms of money 122 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: and now he's still. 123 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 2: But I feel like in trying to mend the relationship 124 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 2: on OP side, he's trying to mend it through money. 125 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: He is. Yeah, yeah, he's saying with the with the venue, 126 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 1: like hey, this is something, let me be in your 127 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: wedding party. 128 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 2: Which I I don't think that's gonna be like it. 129 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 2: It's not working like yeah, So I guess I have 130 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 2: two separate things. I think I hope he is justified petty, 131 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 2: but also I think it's just not a best the 132 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,359 Speaker 2: best way to try and improve the relationship if you 133 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 2: wanted to do that. 134 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: I can't have a relationship built off of many yes objects, 135 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: giving people things, but basically bribing him to, you know, yeah, 136 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: be in his wedding party. So number two, what did 137 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: you get into an argument about. He got upset at 138 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 1: me because he thinks I don't do enough with our parents. 139 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: But I travel for my job. So it's harder for 140 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: me to be there in person. Okay, I do have 141 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: a friend that's in finance and they travel so much 142 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: it's kind of crazy. I also help him them financially, 143 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 1: which he never considers as helping out. So oh the 144 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 1: brother seems like the brother values quality time while the 145 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: op values giving and I guess he doesn't see this's 146 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: the same thing. They have it saved as much as 147 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: they probably should and are getting closer to retirement. So 148 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: I helped them out with some bills so they can 149 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: put more in their four to one K accounts instead. 150 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: But I guess that isn't enough. He always finds something 151 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: to say I'm doing wrong. Number three are you still 152 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: invited to the wedding? Technically he only said I'm not 153 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: going to be in the wedding party, but it feels 154 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: like such a slap in the face at this point, 155 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: and it definitely feels like he doesn't want me there. 156 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: All try to talk to him to see what the 157 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: real issue is because downsizing seems like BS to me. 158 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: We have one. We have a few more comments here 159 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: and then an update, so relevant comments come under number 160 00:07:56,200 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: one down voted You're the a hole. It's very inappropriate 161 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: for you to manipulate someone into being in their wedding. 162 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: It's immature to withdraw your offer of the venue because 163 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: they can't afford much and didn't get your way. For 164 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: their sakes, I hope they can find a new venue 165 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: so they don't have to deal with you and your behavior, 166 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: and they can exercise the hair justify justifiable right to 167 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: not invite you. Opie doesn't play well with others, Opie, 168 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: I don't really feel like I'm manipulating anyone. I figured 169 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: my brother would want me there sincere where family. It 170 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: feels like he isn't telling me what the real reason 171 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 1: is he doesn't want me there, and if he doesn't 172 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: want to treat me like family, I guess I feel 173 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: like I can't I can return the favor. Okay, that's 174 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:54,199 Speaker 1: a really good point. 175 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 2: I don't know. 176 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if I agree with that. It was 177 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: a deal. A deal's a deal should already been in 178 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 1: the way winning uh Commenter number two, Petty, it just 179 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: like you should be. It was an agreement between the 180 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: two of you. Then you rent free, but you are 181 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: a part of the wedding party. Your brother decided to 182 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,719 Speaker 1: punish you in the wrong way, as long as he 183 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 1: took back his part of your contract, you are no 184 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: longer forced to honor your part. But it's too late 185 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: for them to find something. You should tell them that 186 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: as long as your brother can't honor his part of 187 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: your deal, you're okay for them to do the venue 188 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 1: at the same place, but or x them out okay, 189 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: payable right now, because well the confidence is broken. That's 190 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 1: a good point. Maybe it'll force your brother to tell 191 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: you the real reason why he doesn't want you in 192 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: his wedding anymore. So they're saving money already from going 193 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: to the venue, then they're downsizing it. That makes no 194 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: sense at all. Really, I don't thinking about it because 195 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:58,199 Speaker 1: already realistically they're already saving half of the money from 196 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: the venue. They'd be able to pull more money into, 197 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: like more food and stuff. It comment or three, I'm 198 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: curious why didn't your brother ask you to be in 199 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: the wedding to begin with. You say you made it 200 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: a condition for him to use your property and he agreed. 201 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:17,079 Speaker 1: Why would it be a condition if he didn't ask 202 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: you even before the property was offered. Why you to 203 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 1: not really get along or that close? Was this argument? 204 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: What was this argument? About now. You say it it 205 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: wasn't a big deal, but maybe you don't think it was. 206 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: But he does. What happened for him to make up 207 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 1: that excuse, which you know is is the deal, tells 208 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 1: me he didn't want you in the wedding party to 209 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: begin with. In regard, I don't blame you. I think 210 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: you need to elaborate regarding your relationship with your brother. 211 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: So we're going to get into the update right now. 212 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: Update September sixth. That just happened. 213 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 2: That literally, what is it? 214 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: It's the sixth and eighthing. 215 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 2: Oh my god, it was ten days ago. 216 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: Ten days ago, this year's gone. It's been a good year. 217 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a good I think it's my best 218 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:06,199 Speaker 2: year yet. 219 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: Wow, I would say so too. I was having a 220 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: hard time believing my brother when he told me they 221 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 1: were downsizing the wedding party just to make it more intimate. 222 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 1: But that's all he kept saying when I would ask 223 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: him for the real reason. 224 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 2: That's annoying. He's trying to communicate and his brother's not 225 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 2: even giving him the respect and decency to say, and 226 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 2: I don't feel close to He could just say, like 227 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 2: I don't feel as close to you and you. 228 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: Know, yeah, that's a good point. But the downsizing excuse 229 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 1: to me doesn't make any sense because he is already 230 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: saying so much money on the venue. Yeah, why is 231 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 1: he downsizing exactly? 232 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 2: What's the you know, you're not downsizing for costs? 233 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: And remember the little argument they had beforehand. Then the 234 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: next day, the brother asked him, hey, you're not in 235 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: the wedding party. Were downsizing? Just a little tiff, but 236 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: he didn't explain what it was, and it was probably 237 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: a bigger argument to the brother. 238 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 2: Probably he probably took that more to heart. 239 00:11:57,760 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: I wish we could have him here right now, we 240 00:11:59,360 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: could ask him. 241 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 2: I think it is really important to know what that 242 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 2: argument was about, because it might you know, it might. 243 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: It could like with the difference of ages, yeah, immaturity, 244 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: it was probably bigger to the brother than it is 245 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 1: to Ope. I agree. I agree in all honesty, my 246 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: brother and I aren't close, which I am sure is 247 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 1: obvious from my last post. After my emotions settled down 248 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 1: a bit, I told my brother I wanted to talk 249 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:27,839 Speaker 1: to him. He wasn't responding to me, so I said 250 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: I wanted to talk to him about potentially letting them 251 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: still use my vacation house. 252 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 2: Okay, so now he's kind of doubling back. 253 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 1: It's a bait. It feels like a bait. I want 254 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: to talk to you, but i'll give you the house, 255 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: it thinks out to me. It feels like a bait. 256 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 2: And also just the bit earlier where he was like, oh, yeah, 257 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 2: my brother thinks I'm like super successful and he's like 258 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 2: does because I'm always with these cool women and blah 259 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 2: blah blah. I'm a little bit and I don't know 260 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 2: if I trust him as much anymore. 261 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, and another point to the brother will help out 262 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 1: the parents because they seem like older, Yeah, with more time, 263 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 1: and oh, p will you will pay them, like help 264 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: them out, supporting them financially. 265 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 2: Oh we learned that. 266 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: We learned that. 267 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I don't know about this. 268 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:17,559 Speaker 1: That's a good CATCHO. He's still using the money. 269 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 2: M M. 270 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 1: Not totally the truth, but it seemed like a good 271 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:22,319 Speaker 1: way to get him to talk. 272 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 2: Start. This is your faults, literally your faults. You're bribing him. 273 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 2: You're bribing him. This is why your relationship is crumbling. 274 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 2: This is why you're not he's a part of his 275 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 2: grooms man. Did you just keep bribing him, oh man. 276 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:43,559 Speaker 1: I bet whenever the brother was young, he'd always. 277 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 2: He's like, hey, can you do can you do my chores? 278 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:48,839 Speaker 2: He's a star Wars is a dollar. 279 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: Oh man. He finally responded, but said I couldn't come 280 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: over and he would only meet me somewhere public, which 281 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,839 Speaker 1: seemed weird. We ended up meeting got a bar late 282 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 1: last night that I like near my place, and I 283 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 1: straight up just asked him why he was really kicking 284 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: me out of his wedding, and I would only consider 285 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: letting them use my vacation house if he told me 286 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 1: the truth. He was getting pretty fidgety and looking away 287 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: from me, and finally he told me the truth. Woo. 288 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: Apparently his fiance heard that I may do a bit 289 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: of Coca cola here and there for fun, and she 290 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: told me that she didn't want a Coca cola head 291 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: in her wedding. He said he actually kind of agreed 292 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: with her and was disappointed in what I was doing. 293 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: How else he supposed to be a finance role? How 294 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: was he supposed to fit in? 295 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 2: This is everything I learned about. Oh he is kind 296 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 2: of crazy. Just he's like, yeah, so, like I bribed 297 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 2: my brother to let him be one of to make 298 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 2: me one of his grims men. And I'm like, I 299 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 2: do a lot of you know, Coca Cola, and uh 300 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 2: oh great, not great. It's not looking super good for him. 301 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: I told him, if I'm too much of a Coca 302 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: Cola head to be there, then they really shouldn't want 303 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: to use a Coca Cola's house for their wedding. And 304 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 1: I left because he might have Coca Cola. 305 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 2: Everywhere, you know what. I'm kind of wondering if that 306 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 2: that argument was about this about co Cola. Yeah, you know, 307 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 2: like was it op using substances and the brother being like, hey, 308 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 2: you know, you should cut back. I think maybe everyone 309 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 2: talks here a little bit. 310 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: Everyone we got a little bit more. 311 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, okay, so hard. 312 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: I don't really see how it impacts them what I 313 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: do in my free time, but I really don't care 314 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: to be there now if that's what they think of me. 315 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I haven't said a word to 316 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: him since, but I'm guessing I won't be hearing from 317 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: them again soon. A little at it that does that 318 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 1: does impact them. 319 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 2: I do think that Coca Cola has its own kind 320 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 2: of like it's it's very different than how people view 321 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 2: other substances, you know, like like I feel like people, 322 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 2: I mean, because it's become so like widely used. It's 323 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 2: much more common. Like people are like, oh, yeah that, 324 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 2: like they just do that, you know, they just smoke tweed. 325 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 2: But with coca cola, it's like, oh, and so I 326 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 2: can kind of see where they're coming from in the 327 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 2: sense of like societally, you know, societally people don't look 328 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 2: at that too favorably. So they are like, ah, we don't, 329 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 2: we don't. 330 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, because if it's the you know, the brother's big day, 331 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: coca cola is is going to be there. Yeah, Oh, 332 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: just mean a little bit of coc cola. It's not 333 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: that big of adea. Yeah. 334 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 2: Is this I guess it really depends on Oh, PE's 335 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 2: usage of it. I guess, like, is he the type 336 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:12,919 Speaker 2: of person to bring it around people? Is that what 337 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 2: they're worried about? If it's just his own recreational use 338 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 2: and he's not spreading around and that's his own. 339 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: Thing, yeah, comments, Oh, you must be a pug addict. 340 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 1: I do coca cola maybe a handful of times a 341 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: year recreationally with some people that I party with. Obviously, 342 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: this gossip traveled through the grapevine where circles overlapped and 343 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: got to them. Somehow. I wasn't discovered because I'm an addict. 344 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 1: Like some Some have said, it's more common than you think. 345 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: You'd be surprised who does it. That's what some people 346 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: in the comments. That's necessarily the I don't know, statistically 347 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: one of us has been doing it this whole time. 348 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: Number two, you must have a pug problem for them 349 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: to react that way about it. My brother's fiance comes 350 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 1: from a very religious and conservative family. They write down 351 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 1: the road for me. They think anyone that does hard 352 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 1: pug must be a degenerate that is going to h 353 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: double hockey sticks. That's the funny part about her calling 354 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: me a Coca cola head. Smack is whack. She clearly 355 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: doesn't understand Coca cola is different. But I'm not going 356 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: to go on a mission to educate her. That would 357 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: be a waste of effort on my part. 358 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 2: I don't know. 359 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: You should probably take both of them to her and 360 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: show her the dif take this one. 361 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 2: Testimony this way, do a little tester. 362 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 1: You just don't worry Coca Cola smack. You can be 363 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: successful in live and recreationally use pugs. These two aren't 364 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 1: mutually exclusive. Honestly, pretty much, anyone I know that does 365 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: Coca Cola has plenty of money and a great job, 366 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: or they marry someone rich slash inherited money. 367 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 2: Well, yeah it is. I think it is very much 368 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 2: a thing that like very rich crack will do like 369 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 2: it just goes around and stuff. 370 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:08,679 Speaker 1: Wolf of wall Streak was right. Does that mean I 371 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 1: have to start doing Coca cola in order to don't 372 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 1: do that? More? Financially works? 373 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 2: If you do it, you didn't know. No, it's don't dude, 374 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 2: drugs kids. 375 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 1: Final comments, Well, after scrolling through a decent amount of comments, 376 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 1: I've come to the conclusion that I'm obviously a terrible 377 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: douchebag with an enormous pug problem that only thinks about 378 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 1: himself and is extremely conceited. Some parts of that may 379 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: be true, but I do care about my family and 380 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: trying to help my parents in the way I know how. 381 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: For those of you that are familiar with we don't 382 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 1: talk about that. 383 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 2: You're just waiting for me to read it. 384 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: I'm single serving friend kind of person. I don't really 385 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 1: get close with many people, and I have a hard 386 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: time staying one place. That's why I have a job 387 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: where I need to travel all the time. I like 388 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: the variety and the challenge of it. Settling down having 389 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: kids and all that makes me super uncomfortable. Obviously i'd 390 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:16,439 Speaker 1: be terrible fathers, so there's no way I'll have kids. 391 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: Snip snip. My brother is a settled down kind of guy, 392 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 1: and thinking about it, that's probably why he doesn't like me. 393 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:26,959 Speaker 1: I want to be the grunisland for him because I 394 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: wanted to be a part of something in his life. 395 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: But in a capacity I can handle. One last note, 396 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: I've got awesome parents that love me for who I am, 397 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 1: and they know I love them if I'm not around 398 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 1: a ton. They work super hard to raise us and 399 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:46,679 Speaker 1: give us everything we needed, and they came from a 400 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: poorer background. I help them. I help them how I 401 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 1: know I can not. Everyone shows their care in the 402 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: same way you do, so chill and don't think I'm 403 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 1: such an ass because of my caring is mostly financial. 404 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 1: Peace out friends, Okay, so Ope responds to one comment, 405 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 1: I'll read this. I'm getting older. I'm seeing just how 406 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 1: many people actually do Coca cola, and it's usually occasional. 407 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: Has completely changed my perspective. Also, smack and Coca Cola 408 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: are very very different. Ri Ip Whitney that Domar's reason. 409 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: Do they think you're going to be strung out during 410 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:34,360 Speaker 1: the wedding? They want the Coca Cola heads rental property, 411 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 1: but not the Coca Cola head. It make it make sense? 412 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: Not the a hole OPI I use how you're describing. 413 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: You're one correct. I don't touch smack, just recreational Coca Cola, 414 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 1: and I am very functional in my life. He's defending himself. 415 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 2: I I I don't know much about Coca cola. What 416 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 2: is the what's recreational? That is he just saying I 417 00:21:58,800 --> 00:21:59,360 Speaker 2: do it Like. 418 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 1: Remember whom with to Paris when all those people were 419 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: dancing around and they were like, yeah, that's recreational. 420 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 2: Okay. So is he basically saying I'm not addicted. I'm 421 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 2: just using it a little bit. That's my experience. Okay, 422 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 2: that's what he means by that? Gotcha? 423 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 1: Uh, probably not healthy, but I see it like alcohol. 424 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,880 Speaker 1: I'm not abusing it, I'm just doing it. So I'm 425 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: doing Okay. 426 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 2: Those ones are a little bit different. 427 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: My brother didn't say who they heard it from. But 428 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: I could guess a handful of people that would be 429 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: in a party group I hang out with that news 430 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: like that could travel from. If they didn't hear it 431 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: through the grapevine, they'll never they never would have known I, 432 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 1: so I obviously wouldn't have got gone to their wedding 433 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 1: strung out. A pretty large number of people don't get that. 434 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: You're absolutely right, there you go, that's the story. 435 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 2: He really didn't make me like him by the end, 436 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 2: I will say, I think I think still probably I 437 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 2: am on the page of everyone sucks here, just because 438 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 2: you can't kick someone out of a wedding that they're 439 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 2: giving you like a free place for. But also the 440 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 2: way that Opie was telling this story just did not 441 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 2: make him look good. 442 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, he definitely does seem I was getting an arccissistic vibes. 443 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just like, oh, I'm so much richer 444 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:23,479 Speaker 2: than my family. He's jealous of me. And then like 445 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 2: every time he was talking about he was like, I'm 446 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 2: not addicted, I'm not let me tell you more about this, 447 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 2: and I was like, okay, dude, all right, dude, yeah,