Speaker 1: Hello everybody, Welcome into the Fantasy Pros Football Podcast. I'm
Speaker 1: Ryan Wormley, joined by Pat fitz Morris and by Derek
Speaker 1: brown Fellas.
Speaker 2: We're talking fantasy takeaways for.
Speaker 1: The AFC North, always a very hard fought division. Ravens
Speaker 1: came away on top this year twelve or five. They
Speaker 1: are the third seed in the AFC playoffs. We will
Speaker 1: start at the top. We'll start with fits. What was
Speaker 1: your fantasy takeaway for the AFC North in twenty twenty four?
Speaker 3: Worm this, We'll start with the Ravens. And I'm sorry
Speaker 3: I have to go negative on your favorite team, but
Speaker 3: it would make for a boring show if my takeaway
Speaker 3: for the Ravens was just that Lamar Jackson and Derek
Speaker 3: Henry are awesome. So I'm gonna say Za Flowers should
Speaker 3: not be regarded as a top twenty wide receiver for
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five. I think Flowers is terrific, really fun
Speaker 3: to watch, really talented. He is well worthy first round
Speaker 3: pick the Ravens spent on him. But the way the
Speaker 3: Ravens offense works makes Flowers this inconsistent fantasy performer, and
Speaker 3: that inc resistancy he can kind of bite his stakeholders
Speaker 3: in the butt at times. There were eight games this
Speaker 3: season where Flowers had six or fewer targets. There were
Speaker 3: also eight games in which Flowers had forty or fewer
Speaker 3: receiving yards. That's almost half of his games. Under forty
Speaker 3: is obviously a day you're you're not pleased with if
Speaker 3: you're a fantasy manager. The problem is that the Ravens
Speaker 3: ran the ball on fifty two point five percent of
Speaker 3: their offensive snaps this year. Only the Eagles were run
Speaker 3: heavier than the Ravens were in twenty twenty four. And
Speaker 3: do we really think that's going to change next year
Speaker 3: with Lamar Jackson a quarterback and Derek Henriet running back.
Speaker 3: That's just the mo It didn't change when Greg Roman
Speaker 3: left town. And like, this is just how the Ravens
Speaker 3: are built. So I have Za Flowers ranked wide receiver
Speaker 3: twenty one, and I'm wondering if even that is a
Speaker 3: little too high, quite too high?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I will say on the run.
Speaker 1: I don't know that the problem for Jay Flowers is
Speaker 1: how run heavy the Ravens were. I think the prom
Speaker 1: for Flowers is how run heavy they were at the
Speaker 1: goal line because there was just not the opportunity to
Speaker 1: get touchdowns unless they were coming from you know, very far.
Speaker 1: He only had four touchdowns this whole season. He had
Speaker 1: one in Week two, he had two in Week nine,
Speaker 1: and he had one in Week eleven.
Speaker 2: That was it.
Speaker 1: And to me, that is like by far the biggest problem.
Speaker 1: If that numbers doubled, you know, just up to not
Speaker 1: even some crazy number, if that number is eight to
Speaker 1: ten range, then I would be feeling a lot differently
Speaker 1: about Zay. And even with only four touchdowns, he was
Speaker 1: still wide receiver twenty two this season and half VPR scoring.
Speaker 1: Like I think watching the games, you know, obviously I
Speaker 1: watched very closely. I came away from the season feeling
Speaker 1: like he took a step forward. He is maybe not
Speaker 1: a white fantasy wide receiver one or definitely not that,
Speaker 1: but he he is a very valid and capable wide
Speaker 1: receiver one for the Ravens offense in a way that
Speaker 1: no receiver really ever has kind of fully solidified since
Speaker 1: like ankuon Bold and like it's been a while, and
Speaker 1: he does it very differently stylistically. So I really like
Speaker 1: Zay Flowers, and I think there's a chance that if
Speaker 1: the touchdowns do start to.
Speaker 2: Come, then maybe you are a little bit low fits.
Speaker 1: But having said that, we've been given no reason to
Speaker 1: expect those touchdowns to come because even when they do throw,
Speaker 1: it goes to Mark Andrews or Isaiah Likely or whoever else.
Speaker 1: So de Ry, I know you were kind of nodding
Speaker 1: along and seeming to agree with that.
Speaker 4: I agree with everything you just laid out their Worm,
Speaker 4: that was the points that I was gonna make. And
Speaker 4: it comes down to touchdowns. It's not a matter of talent.
Speaker 4: He got enough targets last year and he was efficient
Speaker 4: enough with him. It comes down all to touchdowns, say Flowers,
Speaker 4: to your point, Worm, you talked about the number of
Speaker 4: receiving touchdowns. His red zone role is not enough. It's
Speaker 4: not nearly enough. So like I think he should be
Speaker 4: because he was the wide receiver thirty two and fantasy
Speaker 4: points per game, so looking at him as a wide
Speaker 4: receiver three is exactly where I think he should be.
Speaker 4: He had two stretches this season of at least five games,
Speaker 4: five games without a single freaking red zone target. Like
Speaker 4: you're gonna have ebbs and flows of Zay Flowers considering
Speaker 4: the context of the offense, you're also gonna have those
Speaker 4: touchdowns are not going to be there to stabilize and
Speaker 4: also raise the ceiling and flour of him on a
Speaker 4: weekly basis, unless he's just breaking off massive plays downfield,
Speaker 4: which he could, but that's really tough and that's a
Speaker 4: lot to ask any player to do consistently week after
Speaker 4: week after week if the red zone role was not there.
Speaker 4: So I love the talent, I love his role in
Speaker 4: this offense. He is taking a huge step forward regardless
Speaker 4: of whatever metric we pull up, but the red zone
Speaker 4: role unless that changes, He's not a wider super two.
Speaker 4: He's a water super three for me.
Speaker 1: You know, Fitz, I wonder do you kind of ascribe
Speaker 1: anything to like His targets fell off a lot in
Speaker 1: the second half of the year. They didn't like entirely
Speaker 1: go off a cliff. He was still getting you know,
Speaker 1: six seven, eight targets a game. It's not as much
Speaker 1: as we would have liked to see. It wasn't like
Speaker 1: he was getting no targets. This is just in general,
Speaker 1: not specifics the red zone.
Speaker 2: But to start the.
Speaker 1: Season, you know, week one ten targets, Week two to
Speaker 1: eleven targets, Week five twelve targets, Week eight twelve targets,
Speaker 1: those were all in the first half of the season.
Speaker 1: Through Week nine, he was wide receiver ten. He was
Speaker 1: ranked right in between Brian Thomas Junior than Amed Ross
Speaker 1: Saint Brown like he was. He was a wide receiver
Speaker 1: one in the first half of the season, and then
Speaker 1: the second half it just it just wasn't there did
Speaker 1: anything change in the second half of the season. Was
Speaker 1: it just we got to Derrick Henry season and you
Speaker 1: know they wanted to, you know, use him even more.
Speaker 1: He started, he starts scoring a few were touchdowns in
Speaker 1: the second half of the year. So I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's that, Is there anything that you would kind
Speaker 1: of put point towards as a reason for that.
Speaker 3: It seemed like Lamar was more proactively targeting Rashad Bateman,
Speaker 3: and remember like how meager the target counts were for
Speaker 3: Mark Andrews early in the season. Like he got more
Speaker 3: involved too as the season went on. So I think
Speaker 3: it was basically greater involvement for those two maybe cost
Speaker 3: Flowers a few targets.
Speaker 4: YEP, absolutely agree. It was Andrew's resurgence. It was Bateman
Speaker 4: taking a step forward, a deserved step forward in this
Speaker 4: passing attack.
Speaker 1: Dee bro let's go to your takeaway for the ten
Speaker 1: and seven Pittsburgh Steelers, the sixth seed in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: they're going to be going to Baltimore for that fun
Speaker 1: rivalry matchup in January. But the Steelers ten and seven,
Speaker 1: what's your takeaway.
Speaker 4: If Russell Wilson is back as the quarterback and Arthur
Speaker 4: Smith as back as the play caller for Pittsburgh in
Speaker 4: twenty twenty five, I'm fading this offense like is this
Speaker 4: was one of the most disappointing offenses, Like yes, okay,
Speaker 4: Like if you had n Agie Harris this year where
Speaker 4: you're like, oh, cool, he's a flex option, but then
Speaker 4: there's a lot of weeks where you're like, oh, geez,
Speaker 4: why did I start him? RB twenty five and Fantasy
Speaker 4: points per game? Jalen Warren RB thirty nine and Fantasy
Speaker 4: points per game. Both of those guys. I understand that
Speaker 4: both of those guys were looking towards twenty twenty five
Speaker 4: are free agents, so maybe neither one of them are back.
Speaker 4: But the bigger point to how Arthur Smith. We've already
Speaker 4: seen this people. Do you remember Bjon Robinson getting his
Speaker 4: rookie season ruined because of Arthur Smith trying to be
Speaker 4: the smartest guy in the room and trying to not run.
Speaker 4: This is just another situation of Arthur Smith not running
Speaker 4: his offense through his best players on a consistent basis.
Speaker 4: And this trickles down to George Pickens wide receiver thirty five.
Speaker 4: He had six games only six games this year where
Speaker 4: he was a wide receiver, two were better and weekly scoring,
Speaker 4: he had eight games where George Pickens was outside the
Speaker 4: top forty wide receivers in weekly scoring. So while we
Speaker 4: hoped more consistency out of George Pickens because he's the
Speaker 4: only dude in that passing attack, we didn't get it.
Speaker 4: You got a revisiting of the previous year of George Pickens.
Speaker 4: The rapper changed, the substance was still the same, and
Speaker 4: Pratt friremuth because of this offense because touchdowns go everywhere
Speaker 4: except the best players. Again, Pat friarmth weeks one through
Speaker 4: seventeen when it actually freaking mattered tight end sixteen in
Speaker 4: Fantasy points per game. Thank you, but no thank you
Speaker 4: Russell Wilson and Arthur Smith in this offense for fantasy
Speaker 4: for twenty twenty four, and if they're back again, they're
Speaker 4: gonna do it again in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1: Dobro, If I told you that we were going to
Speaker 1: get one of these two back exactly one, not zero,
Speaker 1: and not both, what would you rather see? Would you
Speaker 1: rather see Russ and a new offensive coordinator. Would you
Speaker 1: rather see Arthur Smith and a different quarterback?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 4: Good lord, Arthur Smith at a different quarterback, like Pittsburgh.
Speaker 4: If I was Pittsburgh. You keep justin fields like dude.
Speaker 4: The playbook of how to stop Russell Wilson. It limits
Speaker 4: so much of your effectiveness in what you can do.
Speaker 4: It is legit. Play too high, put two safeties over
Speaker 4: the top, you take away the go ball, bucket shots
Speaker 4: on on the perimeter. You make him beat you in
Speaker 4: the middle of the field. And Russell Wilson hasn't seen
Speaker 4: the middle of the field since maybe high school, so
Speaker 4: that's not gonna happen. It's it's just so freaking predictable, man.
Speaker 4: It's so easy on a weekly basis to say, Oh, hey,
Speaker 4: they're playing a single high team, Well let's go George Pickens. Yeah,
Speaker 4: the bucket shots down the sideline. Oh, it's a jwo
Speaker 4: I coverage and he screwed. Okay, we're not starting anybody
Speaker 4: from this offense, maybe the running backs.
Speaker 2: It's what do you think?
Speaker 3: I kind of agree with half of Debro's take and
Speaker 3: half not. Like I don't as of now want to
Speaker 3: be too heavily invested in the Steelers offense for twenty
Speaker 3: twenty five, especially if it is the Russ and Arthur
Speaker 3: Smith show. Again. I just don't think Arthur or uh
Speaker 3: Russell Wilson is the same guy he was in Seattle,
Speaker 3: Like that is kind of gone and he sort of
Speaker 3: swerved everyone, I think when he had some big games
Speaker 3: right away after taking over for Fields as the starter,
Speaker 3: but like that just wasn't sustainable, especially with a pretty
Speaker 3: poor group of pass catchers collectively and going to George
Speaker 3: Pickens deebro I just like I don't think he's a
Speaker 3: Ceedee Lamb guy who you can give one hundred and
Speaker 3: fifty one hundred and sixty targets. He's just not that
Speaker 3: kind of player. I don't think he is a true alpha.
Speaker 3: I think he's more like a big play special. I mean,
Speaker 3: I don't think he's mature enough to be a true alpha. No,
Speaker 3: And honestly, yeah, I don't think either Nase or Jalen
Speaker 3: Warren deserve to be, you know, the lead back. I
Speaker 3: think it was wise to platoon those guys. The only
Speaker 3: guy of questions with the usage of would be Pat Fryarmouth,
Speaker 3: and I'm still not totally sure how good he is,
Speaker 3: but that's just what Arthur Smith does. He wants to
Speaker 3: use multiple tight ends. So we were of course going
Speaker 3: to get some Darnell Washington and Michele Pruitt and that
Speaker 3: was going to be really frustrating. So I don't necessarily
Speaker 3: blame Arthur Smith for the way he deployed the limited
Speaker 3: skill position weaponry that he had, but I do agree
Speaker 3: that this is not looking like a very fruitful source
Speaker 3: of fantasy goodness for twenty twenty five as it now stands.
Speaker 1: Last thought on the Steelers fits. Do you expect to
Speaker 1: be ahead of or below consensus on George Pickens next year?
Speaker 3: Below?
Speaker 4: Below? Big time below? Yeah. I mean, on a weekly basis,
Speaker 4: can we rule out George Pickens getting into a fight
Speaker 4: with any cornerback that's out that that decides to cover
Speaker 4: him and he just doesn't like it and he throws
Speaker 4: a fit and he's out by the halftime.
Speaker 3: Nope, I mean, maybe I'll be in line. I've got
Speaker 3: him wide receiver twenty three right now. And I kind
Speaker 3: of started with him a little higher, and I just
Speaker 3: decided that that was a little too much, and I
Speaker 3: wanted to move him behind guys like Zay Flowers. Like
Speaker 3: I as many issues as I have with Zay Flowers
Speaker 3: in his usage, I think he's a better bet than
Speaker 3: George Pickens for twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: I would actually much rather have Zay than Sam Debra
Speaker 1: what you would also, Pikett Dickens will be a wide
Speaker 1: receiver three for me.
Speaker 4: I can't get it.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say when you said wide receiver twenty
Speaker 1: three fits my I haven't actually sat down and done
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, like early rankings or anything yet, but
Speaker 1: my initial gut reaction to hearing that was that's a
Speaker 1: little bit too high. It's not like insanely too high.
Speaker 1: But to me that I don't think I would have
Speaker 1: him as.
Speaker 4: Well as that real fast FITSI George Pickens and Marvin
Speaker 4: Harrison Junior next year.
Speaker 3: I've tentatively got Pickings ranked higher.
Speaker 4: Okay, because I think I think I want Marv.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not unreasonable.
Speaker 2: I think I want Harrison too.
Speaker 1: Man. I wish I had more faith in what their
Speaker 1: plans for using him. We're gonna be before I made
Speaker 1: that statement, but I think I would.
Speaker 2: I would have Harrison there.
Speaker 3: I have a feeling that's gonna come up in our
Speaker 3: NFC West.
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Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals nine to eight did not sneak into
Speaker 1: the playoffs thanks to their slow start to the season.
Speaker 1: What is your fantasy takeaway for Cincy?
Speaker 4: I think when we're in draft season, and I think
Speaker 4: people are on the clock. They are very hesitant to
Speaker 4: make two draft picks and invest heavily in an offense
Speaker 4: in the sense of taking two wide receivers from the
Speaker 4: same offense. I think that we need to get past this.
Speaker 4: I've stated this before, but I think that what we
Speaker 4: saw from the Bengals if we think an offense is
Speaker 4: going to pass a lot, which Cincinnati did, and there's
Speaker 4: other offenses that we can say that for looking into
Speaker 4: twenty twenty five, I have no issues and I don't
Speaker 4: think anybody should have any issues taking two wide receivers
Speaker 4: from the same team in fantasy in draft season. You
Speaker 4: look at what Chase and T Higgins did this year
Speaker 4: wide receiver one and wide receiver two in fantasy points
Speaker 4: per game.
Speaker 2: That's it. That's a stet.
Speaker 1: What do you think about this fits, Is this an
Speaker 1: example of you should the takeaway should be you can
Speaker 1: be comfortable when they're quality players taking two receivers from
Speaker 1: the sea offense. Or is this an example of the outlier,
Speaker 1: the exception kind of defining the rule, where like, yes,
Speaker 1: this is it is an exception to the rule where
Speaker 1: you can take T. Higgins and Jabar Chase, but you
Speaker 1: shouldn't apply that to other receiving cores.
Speaker 3: Deeberrow. I'm sorry, but I think this is a freakish
Speaker 3: one tenth of one percentile exception to the rule, maybe
Speaker 3: one one hundredth of one percentile. Like I mean, I
Speaker 3: know I would get starting question starts hit questions in
Speaker 3: discord where some guy would lay out his wide receiver
Speaker 3: corps for me and he would have like DK Metcalf
Speaker 3: and Jackson Smith and Jigba And my response was, you know,
Speaker 3: part of it would be you should probably trade one
Speaker 3: of those guys, Like I just don't. I think it
Speaker 3: limits your weekly upside if you start two receivers from
Speaker 3: the same team, unless you've got a quarterback who's averaging
Speaker 3: like three hundred and forty passing yards and three and
Speaker 3: a half touchdowns a game like Joe Burrow was. But
Speaker 3: how rare is that? So I think it can happen
Speaker 3: under the right circumstances. But in general practice, is it
Speaker 3: a good rule of thumb to draft two guys from
Speaker 3: the same team. I don't think it is, Like, no, I.
Speaker 4: Don't think of general practice. Are there are reasons? And like, again,
Speaker 4: I've enveloped this in team, a team that is going
Speaker 4: to throw the ball and has good enough quarterback play
Speaker 4: to support two different guys. Because two other instances that
Speaker 4: I will bring up right now, AJ Brown at DeVonta
Speaker 4: Smith wide receiver twelve and wide receiver fifteen and Fantasy
Speaker 4: points per game, the Minnesota Vikings Justin Jefferson wide receiver
Speaker 4: three and Jordan Addison wide receiver twenty one. Those are
Speaker 4: two other teams that we can point to that also fielded.
Speaker 4: These are three teams, three teams, six players that make
Speaker 4: up the top twenty four wide receivers in Fantasy.
Speaker 3: But we also weren't getting smash games from Jefferson and
Speaker 3: Addison in the same week very often. We definitely weren't
Speaker 3: getting smash games from AJ Brown and DeVante's.
Speaker 4: But it evens out right very often.
Speaker 3: I Mean, that's interesting in.
Speaker 4: A nutshell though, the volatility in the weekly roller coaster.
Speaker 4: No guys top five every single week, regardless even if
Speaker 4: we rank him as top five every week.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but if you're getting eighteen PPR points from one
Speaker 3: guy and like nine PPR from the other guy in
Speaker 3: any given week, like I don't know if that's a
Speaker 3: win necessarily, Like I just want to aim higher every week,
Speaker 3: and you know, then there are weeks like what happens
Speaker 3: if the starting quarterback for that team gets garbage canned
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden the backups in and now
Speaker 3: you're really hosed. So I just I think it's a
Speaker 3: little there's not enough upside and a little bit of
Speaker 3: volatility involved with that approach too. So I just generally
Speaker 3: just don't think it's good strategy.
Speaker 1: Do you guys see a different in this strategy when
Speaker 1: they're both receivers versus drafting one receiver and a high
Speaker 1: level tight end from the same team, Like, for example,
Speaker 1: are you going to be willing to draft Marvin Harrison
Speaker 1: Junior and Trey McBride to the same fantasy team next year?
Speaker 2: You know, Brock Bauers and Jacoby.
Speaker 1: Myers, you know whatever company is they Flowers and Mark
Speaker 1: Andrews Debro Is that something you're willing to do?
Speaker 2: In conversation you that din win two receivers.
Speaker 4: Same conversation, I'm fine with it. Like, I mean, I
Speaker 4: think it's a great point that you brought up. There
Speaker 4: weren't because it tight ends the top end. Guys, we
Speaker 4: should view as wide receivers, not tight ends because they
Speaker 4: produced like wide receivers, the cross correlation between positional stuff. So,
Speaker 4: would we have had any problems drafting Marvin Errison Junior
Speaker 4: and Trey McBride on the same team.
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 4: Do we have any problems drafting Xavier Worthy and Travis
Speaker 4: Kelcey or Rashia Rice and Travis Kelcey on the same team. No.
Speaker 4: So I think this all comes back to really just
Speaker 4: a point that I think that the bigger point here
Speaker 4: for me is I want to invest in one good offenses,
Speaker 4: but offenses they're gonna throw throw the ball a crap
Speaker 4: ton with good players in it.
Speaker 2: So, Fitz, what do you.
Speaker 1: Think about that framing of a receiver and a tight
Speaker 1: end on the same team.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think it's okay if you have
Speaker 3: situations like Bauers and Myers, or like McBride and Harrison
Speaker 3: where it's two guys commanding a massive share of the
Speaker 3: targets on a particular team. You know, is it something
Speaker 3: I'm aiming to do? Though, definitely not.
Speaker 1: Let's wrap up the AFC North with the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 1: They were terrible three and fourteen. I'm not even sure
Speaker 1: like how strong of a takeaway you can even have
Speaker 1: on the Browns, just given like what we saw from
Speaker 1: the quarterback position this year, the uncertainty of what we're
Speaker 1: gonna see next year, Like obviously they're someone beholding to
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson financially, but they're already talking about how his achilles,
Speaker 1: you know, might not be ready for the start of
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty five season. So like fits when you
Speaker 1: sit down to say, how do I even like come
Speaker 1: up with a takeaway for this Cleveland team in this
Speaker 1: Cleveland season, Like, how did you approach coming up with one?
Speaker 3: Well, I think we've got to tie into Deshaun Watson,
Speaker 3: and in this case, like the guy to have in
Speaker 3: the Cleveland offense obviously this year was Jerry Judy. And
Speaker 3: my take is that Jerry Judy's twenty twenty four breakthrough
Speaker 3: is legit and I Am not going to fade him
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty five, even if the Browns say they're
Speaker 3: going to start Deshaun Watson as soon as he's ready.
Speaker 3: So Judy finished with ninety catches and twelve hundred yards.
Speaker 3: But let's parse this a little more carefully. Seven starts
Speaker 3: for Deshaun Watson at the beginning of the season. In
Speaker 3: those games, Judy averaged three catches and thirty eight receiving yards.
Speaker 3: So then we got seven starts out of Jamis Winston,
Speaker 3: Judy averaged seven catches and one hundred and twelve point
Speaker 3: three receiving yards in those games. And then even down
Speaker 3: the stretch when we got three starts combined out of
Speaker 3: Dorian Thompson Robinson and Bailey Zappi, Judy averaged six points
Speaker 3: catches in fifty nine yards in those games. Like he
Speaker 3: was still a legitimate fantasy starter even with those backup
Speaker 3: like third string quarterbacks playing. So I mean, like Judy
Speaker 3: did significantly better with Bailey Zappi and Dorian Thompson Robinson
Speaker 3: throwing him the all that he did with Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 3: The question is whether Judy's slow start I guess with
Speaker 3: Watson was just fully attributable to how bad Deshaun was.
Speaker 3: Or is it that like the light hadn't fully switched
Speaker 3: on for Judy because we his career in general got
Speaker 3: off to a pretty slow start. I mean, he had
Speaker 3: a pretty promising rookie year, but then three very disappointing
Speaker 3: seasons in Denver. So I don't know, maybe Judy is
Speaker 3: gonna fare much better next season, even if it is
Speaker 3: Deshaun Watson at quarterback. But here's the thing, Like the
Speaker 3: Browns are not gonna let Watson make seven more starts
Speaker 3: next season if he plays as poorly as he did
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty four. They are just not going to
Speaker 3: give him that much leash. So I have Judy ranked
Speaker 3: wide receiver twenty two, right behind Zay Flowers. I suspect
Speaker 3: that's going to put me a little ahead of consensus
Speaker 3: on him. Maybe not, but yeah, I just I want
Speaker 3: to be invested in this guy after his thoroughly impressive
Speaker 3: season this year because he was just lights out. I
Speaker 3: think he's one of the ten best route runners in
Speaker 3: the game.
Speaker 1: Where do you expect him fits to be ranked in
Speaker 1: ECR next year?
Speaker 2: Not where you will have him.
Speaker 3: Where do you think he'll be I think around twenty five?
Speaker 1: Yeah, de bro, What do you think about Jerry Judy
Speaker 1: as somebody to not fade even with the quarterback stuff
Speaker 1: going on?
Speaker 4: I think you're not going to fade Jerry Judy because
Speaker 4: I think we're gonna have a different quarterback. I mean,
Speaker 4: welcome cam Ward or Shadura Sanders to Cleveland. They got
Speaker 4: the second overall pick in the NFL draft. So even
Speaker 4: having them move up to number one with changing hands
Speaker 4: with Tennessee, if Tennessee, you know, doesn't like however, they
Speaker 4: want to approach this draft to tell them what they
Speaker 4: do at quarterback. They signed Sam Darnold something like that,
Speaker 4: then they don't have a quarterback issue. Look, you want
Speaker 4: to go out and get Travis Hunter, you want to
Speaker 4: pair him with Lugeria snead By, all means, go do it,
Speaker 4: But this all comes down to me the way that
Speaker 4: you mitigate the Deshaun Watson stuff. You say, DeShawn stay home.
Speaker 4: We're gonna obviously have to pay you, We're gonna cut you,
Speaker 4: We're gonna do something else. This team is ready to go,
Speaker 4: man like. You look at the defense, if they can
Speaker 4: get health out of them. You look at the offensive line,
Speaker 4: you look at the skill players. You draft a running
Speaker 4: back in the middle rounds, you go draft your quarterback
Speaker 4: with the number two overall pick. Maybe you move up
Speaker 4: to one, and you roll into twenty twenty five, and
Speaker 4: we're all happy about Jerry Juditer because it's not fricking
Speaker 4: Deshaun Watson throwing the football to him.
Speaker 1: We'll wrap up the AFC North there Please be sure
Speaker 1: to check out all of our division fantasy takeaways. We're
Speaker 1: doing every single division as their own little smaller episode
Speaker 1: for Debro and Fits.
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