WEBVTT - #547 - Millyz 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:02.040 Yeah, yeah, y'all, what's up as Millie's check me out 0:00:02.040 --> 0:00:03.640 on the Butleg CAV Podcast. 0:00:04.080 --> 0:00:06.480 Hey, before we start the episode, we're gonna remind everybody, man, 0:00:06.519 --> 0:00:08.840 we got one of the biggest radio shows in the country, 0:00:09.080 --> 0:00:12.760 syndicated in almost one hundred cities all over. Shout out 0:00:12.800 --> 0:00:15.800 to iHeartRadio. All right, some of the latest cities that 0:00:15.840 --> 0:00:17.680 we've been able to add. Man, we want to give 0:00:17.680 --> 0:00:19.680 a shout out to ninety three point nine to Beat 0:00:19.840 --> 0:00:23.120 in Honolulu. That's right, Hawaii, We over there going crazy. 0:00:23.400 --> 0:00:25.280 I also want to give a shout out Hot ninety 0:00:25.280 --> 0:00:28.040 eight three and Tucson. Shout out to Tucson going crazy. 0:00:28.240 --> 0:00:29.800 Also want to give a shout out to Wild ninety 0:00:29.840 --> 0:00:33.839 four one in Tampa going crazy. We just got Richmond. 0:00:34.080 --> 0:00:37.120 We also just got the good folks in Bakersfield at 0:00:37.120 --> 0:00:39.400 Hot one O four to seven. So we're going crazy 0:00:39.440 --> 0:00:42.320 on the radio with my partner James Andre Jefferson Junior 0:00:42.360 --> 0:00:44.760 for the Bootleg CAV Show. So make sure you tune 0:00:44.760 --> 0:00:48.320 in and you can listen anywhere on that iHeart Radio app. 0:00:48.520 --> 0:00:55.240 That's right, let's get into the interview Bootleg CAV Podcast. 0:00:55.280 --> 0:00:59.200 Man special guests in here. My brother representing Massachusetts, my dog, 0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:01.760 the biggest Celtics fan in the world, wearing a Sun's 0:01:01.800 --> 0:01:02.760 jersey today. 0:01:02.840 --> 0:01:06.479 For you, Millies, for you. We're for you only because 0:01:06.480 --> 0:01:08.840 you're not competitive. If you were competitive, I would have 0:01:08.880 --> 0:01:10.160 never wre this jersey today. 0:01:10.160 --> 0:01:10.960 Thank you, thank you. 0:01:11.200 --> 0:01:13.119 I got so much love in my heart for you. Bro. 0:01:13.880 --> 0:01:16.760 Get a ball, Steve, Steve nash Man a great, a 0:01:16.800 --> 0:01:20.200 great white basketball player all time. White for sure is 0:01:20.200 --> 0:01:20.600 a great way. 0:01:20.640 --> 0:01:22.479 You gotta put him up on a white mount rushing 0:01:22.520 --> 0:01:24.560 for the NBA time MVP. 0:01:24.840 --> 0:01:25.800 He is a great way. 0:01:26.240 --> 0:01:29.520 Yeah, for sure. How's everything been though? Man? New albums out? 0:01:29.640 --> 0:01:33.360 Blanco seven, Yeah, B seven, seventh Installment. 0:01:34.360 --> 0:01:35.520 When do you stop this thing? 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:39.520 Ten? I was going to stop it at I was 0:01:39.560 --> 0:01:43.399 going to stop it at seven, but like now I'm like, yeah, ten. 0:01:43.800 --> 0:01:44.520 I'm like ten. 0:01:44.600 --> 0:01:47.720 Like Blanco, Yeah, because I literally get bigger in my 0:01:47.760 --> 0:01:49.960 career every time I drop one of them. It's like 0:01:50.000 --> 0:01:54.160 the process of dropping a Blanco album just propels me 0:01:54.160 --> 0:01:56.400 in my career. And it's the music I love working on. 0:01:56.480 --> 0:01:58.720 It's you know, it's kind of theme based music. 0:01:58.760 --> 0:02:02.720 So it's what's the difference for you, Like between like 0:02:02.720 --> 0:02:04.640 a Holy Water and like working on a Blanco like 0:02:04.800 --> 0:02:05.160 is it. 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:09.280 Like like the Blancos. I want to make sure it's 0:02:09.320 --> 0:02:15.280 a balance of melodic records, pain records, my essential MILLI 0:02:15.400 --> 0:02:17.200 sound like if you go to YouTube and you go 0:02:17.240 --> 0:02:21.200 to Millie's type beat, you'll see hundreds of thousands of 0:02:21.280 --> 0:02:25.080 millions type beats like I got my own, you know 0:02:25.560 --> 0:02:29.040 style that I created in that sense, So I keep 0:02:29.320 --> 0:02:32.280 that type of music heavy on the Blanco series, but 0:02:32.320 --> 0:02:35.000 then I keep a good balance of melodic records, and 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:38.040 then I try to get you know, the A list 0:02:38.200 --> 0:02:42.360 type features right, and it's it's just a formula to it. 0:02:42.400 --> 0:02:47.320 Where Holy Water is that was just like a darker album. 0:02:47.840 --> 0:02:51.160 Yeah uh you obviously you start to talking about big features. 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:53.200 This this album's got meek mill And by the way, 0:02:53.280 --> 0:02:55.960 Jada Kiss had one of the craziest punchlines to kick 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:56.560 off the album. 0:02:56.760 --> 0:02:59.160 Hell yeah you called that where he was talking about 0:02:59.160 --> 0:03:01.640 the patt the top of your Yeah, he said you 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:04.920 could try waiting and you could die hating, get your 0:03:04.960 --> 0:03:07.960 head tapped, shock clock violation, And when he said it, 0:03:08.000 --> 0:03:09.840 I just thought it was a dope line, like you know, 0:03:09.919 --> 0:03:12.079 get your head tapped, like yeah, but then he's like 0:03:12.120 --> 0:03:14.359 yeating know the reps, they tap their heads when it's 0:03:14.400 --> 0:03:15.200 a shock. 0:03:15.200 --> 0:03:20.239 Yesh, so good bro. Yeah, but talk about work because 0:03:20.240 --> 0:03:23.120 obviously now meet's independent, So I feel like it's a 0:03:23.120 --> 0:03:26.400 lot easier because you're an independent artist. Yeah. I feel 0:03:26.440 --> 0:03:28.720 like like it's probably a lot easier for you to 0:03:28.720 --> 0:03:31.560 work with somebody when they're independent than like dealing with 0:03:31.600 --> 0:03:34.240 the major label ship getting that shit cleared, like because 0:03:34.280 --> 0:03:37.040 you might fuck with an artist and they might fuck 0:03:37.080 --> 0:03:38.600 with you. But then when it comes to time for 0:03:38.640 --> 0:03:40.200 the record to come out, especially if you want to 0:03:40.240 --> 0:03:42.520 do the primary artist thing and all that explain like 0:03:42.520 --> 0:03:44.320 like connecting with Meek and. 0:03:45.520 --> 0:03:48.720 Well I connected with them through Garcy. 0:03:48.360 --> 0:03:49.920 Okay, so Garcy is like my. 0:03:50.040 --> 0:03:53.800 Bro, like long time, like we've been tied in and 0:03:54.240 --> 0:03:56.520 Meek Mill that was like a bucket list record for 0:03:56.560 --> 0:04:00.280 me for sure, for sure because he's man can Drake 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:05.360 Cole Meek you know that's really that they'll probably try 0:04:05.360 --> 0:04:07.680 to leave him out of some of those or Drake 0:04:07.800 --> 0:04:11.080 you know that whole conversation. He's the street rapper right 0:04:11.520 --> 0:04:14.240 out of that that really put out you know, classic 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:17.160 bodies of work. Man. A lot of people that might 0:04:17.200 --> 0:04:21.279 be the last street rapper who was like a superstar. 0:04:21.000 --> 0:04:24.800 Right, And I mean, like you said, the classic bodies 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:27.320 of work is all those dream chasers. 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:34.200 Yeah, dream chases tastes down to the albums though, Yeah, Championships, Championships. 0:04:34.240 --> 0:04:37.000 I think it's his best body. I love so good. 0:04:37.120 --> 0:04:39.560 I told him, I like I like the intro and 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:41.640 championships more than dreams of nightma. 0:04:42.040 --> 0:04:43.920 I feel like Meek is a perfect example too of 0:04:43.960 --> 0:04:47.560 like once you hit a certain level of success, like 0:04:47.680 --> 0:04:51.120 hip hop fans are so finicky, bro, yeah, because it's 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:53.880 like he got so big and was like rubbing rubbing 0:04:54.160 --> 0:04:57.920 shoulders with like the biggest motherfuckers like outside of hip 0:04:57.920 --> 0:05:00.800 hop billionaires and like yeah, and it's people try to 0:05:00.880 --> 0:05:02.479 use that ship against him. It's like, Yo, isn't this 0:05:02.560 --> 0:05:05.640 the goal? Like shouldn't you want to like elevate and 0:05:05.680 --> 0:05:09.880 get out of the trenches remove yourself from situations in which, like. 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:11.080 I think that's everywhere. 0:05:11.120 --> 0:05:11.320 Though. 0:05:14.360 --> 0:05:19.159 The very famous friend of mine from uh my area 0:05:19.200 --> 0:05:22.240 in Massachusetts, he told me say, yeah, people like you 0:05:22.279 --> 0:05:24.000 to do good, just they don't like you to do 0:05:24.080 --> 0:05:25.760 too good? You know? 0:05:26.080 --> 0:05:27.240 Is that Mark Warberg. 0:05:28.520 --> 0:05:28.760 Ship? 0:05:28.880 --> 0:05:32.200 Like that shout out to Mark Welberg. Yeah, yeah, no, 0:05:32.279 --> 0:05:34.440 that's true. Have you. Have you dealt with that at all? 0:05:34.440 --> 0:05:37.120 Because oh, for sure, obviously you're like very successful, but 0:05:37.120 --> 0:05:38.680 you're still kind of like underground. 0:05:38.880 --> 0:05:45.080 Yeah. So I'm so I'm underground in the whole scheme 0:05:45.160 --> 0:05:50.000 of things like nationally, you know, but like in my city, 0:05:50.040 --> 0:05:52.760 I'm kind of my state. I'm like the big fish 0:05:52.760 --> 0:05:55.200 and the small for sure. So I take I take 0:05:55.240 --> 0:05:56.000 all the hate. 0:05:56.800 --> 0:05:59.920 Yeah, you're like the like why aren't you doing more? 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:03.280 Why it doesn't matter they move the goal post every time. 0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:06.480 So yeah, it's it's interesting because I've been in that 0:06:06.520 --> 0:06:09.000 same position in Arizona where it's like, yeah, how much else? 0:06:09.080 --> 0:06:11.920 Like what is like what do you'll want me to do? 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:15.200 Matter how many Arizona rappers come on my showing rap 0:06:15.279 --> 0:06:16.400 like it ain't never enough. 0:06:16.520 --> 0:06:21.000 I pray I pray that five six seven artists could 0:06:21.160 --> 0:06:24.000 pop at the same time, kind of like how Detroit. 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:25.400 Is, right, you know, it's crazy. 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:28.240 Then I could just do my thing with immunity and 0:06:28.320 --> 0:06:32.000 be fine, you know, without people, you know, watching every 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:35.640 move I'm making, being like it's man, it's his fault 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:39.120 that I'm not further in my career, Like that's that's 0:06:39.120 --> 0:06:39.720 what they think. 0:06:40.160 --> 0:06:44.159 Yeah, it's crazy. Because the approach that mind state will 0:06:44.200 --> 0:06:46.000 have you fucked up for the rest of your life 0:06:46.560 --> 0:06:48.279 if you if you always are looking at it. 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:51.440 It's a bitch azz mind state too. Yeah, it's a 0:06:51.440 --> 0:06:52.599 bitch azz mind state. 0:06:53.560 --> 0:06:53.720 Yeah. 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:56.000 If your point got to be a man man like 0:06:56.160 --> 0:07:00.240 nobody like my me. Being lit does not dim your 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:03.000 light at all. You know, it's enough money for all 0:07:03.080 --> 0:07:09.080 of us. It's enough. It's enough abundance for everybody. 0:07:10.520 --> 0:07:13.600 And what I'm doing and got nothing to do with 0:07:13.600 --> 0:07:17.840 what you're doing. Hell no, And yeah you got to. 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:20.200 Take if anything it could, it could big get ship up, 0:07:20.280 --> 0:07:25.120 like in the case of like Joanne and Lucas. He's 0:07:25.280 --> 0:07:28.920 a big rapper from where I'm from. Of course, you know, 0:07:29.000 --> 0:07:31.200 he's from like an hour from where I'm from. But 0:07:31.240 --> 0:07:34.320 it's the same, yeah, but it's the same thing. And 0:07:34.400 --> 0:07:39.120 he got a huge fan base, bro, And that benefited 0:07:39.160 --> 0:07:42.360 me because us being from the same backyard pretty much. 0:07:42.640 --> 0:07:46.640 He put me on tour, you know, and put money 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:48.160 in my pocket and put me in front of a 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:51.920 huge fan base. And that's because we're from Massachusetts. 0:07:51.360 --> 0:07:53.640 And Wi you were coming up, you wasn't hating on him, 0:07:53.720 --> 0:07:55.240 being like, yo, why is Jordan. 0:07:55.000 --> 0:07:59.520 You know, I wasn't hating it, and he never he 0:07:59.600 --> 0:08:02.080 never rea out to me or nothing. We had like 0:08:02.160 --> 0:08:04.720 other shit, you know, going on, but it was like 0:08:04.760 --> 0:08:08.600 I never ever hated publicly, no matter what if I 0:08:08.720 --> 0:08:10.600 seen them at the Grammys. It's just not in my 0:08:10.680 --> 0:08:13.520 heart to see somebody from Massachusetts at the Grammys and 0:08:13.560 --> 0:08:16.640 not go wow, this is crazy on the internet and 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:19.960 put it up like that'll never be, you know, not 0:08:20.080 --> 0:08:21.880 in my heart to do. Man, I want six or 0:08:21.920 --> 0:08:24.240 seven to win to the utmost. That's why you can 0:08:24.360 --> 0:08:27.560 never catch me down in somebody because I really want, 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:31.600 you know, I want Massachusetts to win man highest level. 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:35.640 There's like a false narrative too that like people can 0:08:35.720 --> 0:08:39.600 gate keep other other people from succeeding. I'm like, yo, fuck, no, 0:08:40.200 --> 0:08:44.480 the internet exists. You have a direct yea option at 0:08:44.520 --> 0:08:47.199 all times. You should look in the mirror and figure 0:08:47.200 --> 0:08:49.839 out the things that you're not doing to resonate with 0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:50.520 people with. 0:08:50.880 --> 0:08:53.520 Yeah, And it's almost no excuses a rapper now, because 0:08:53.559 --> 0:08:55.960 I'm gonna break it down like right, all right, So 0:08:56.040 --> 0:08:58.240 what would be what would be a hindrance to a 0:08:58.320 --> 0:09:02.360 rapper making it right now? Like if you were let's say, let's. 0:09:02.200 --> 0:09:05.600 Say let's say most rappers would be like, they would 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:07.320 look at how hard it is to get on a 0:09:07.360 --> 0:09:09.920 playlist because they think that that's the only thing that 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:12.480 matters a lot of small minded. 0:09:12.440 --> 0:09:14.880 Well, that's playlist. And let me tell you something. I 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:17.319 got a line. I got a line on my thing 0:09:17.440 --> 0:09:22.320 and I love I got a song called what If 0:09:22.360 --> 0:09:24.640 I told you and on it and this is no 0:09:24.880 --> 0:09:29.800 I listen. I love Spotify. I have nothing against Spotiforse, 0:09:30.760 --> 0:09:35.720 when you look at my shit, it says one percent 0:09:36.240 --> 0:09:41.840 or zero percent editorial playlisting. I'm me at this height 0:09:41.880 --> 0:09:43.760 of my career. I done had all the features and 0:09:43.800 --> 0:09:46.880 all of that. I don't care. I'm not mad at them. 0:09:47.120 --> 0:09:51.760 Carl Cherry, y'all, I'm still waiting. It's fine. I got 0:09:51.800 --> 0:09:53.760 nothing but love for y'all in my heart. I'm gonna 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:55.920 keep working. I don't give a fuck. That don't make 0:09:55.960 --> 0:09:58.680 me or break me. I still got love. But I 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:00.200 got a line. I said, what if I told you? 0:10:00.240 --> 0:10:03.280 Spotify don't put me on a playlist. But in the trenches, 0:10:03.320 --> 0:10:05.280 I'm so famous. They treat me like I'm a list. 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:09.360 It's all right, Like you don't need a playlist, you 0:10:09.360 --> 0:10:11.319 don't need you don't need a playlist to propel. You 0:10:11.400 --> 0:10:14.959 need the internet, man is phone you get clicking off 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:16.240 your phone, you know what I mean? 0:10:16.280 --> 0:10:19.920 Yeah, you need to make music that resonates with people, 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:23.319 and that's how you build a flock, you know what 0:10:23.320 --> 0:10:25.079 I'm saying. Like we've been I've been watching you dog 0:10:25.120 --> 0:10:27.560 for like ten years, slowly chipping away at this shit. 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:28.160 You know what I mean. 0:10:28.360 --> 0:10:31.600 Yeah, Yeah, and that's what it is, like a slow 0:10:31.679 --> 0:10:34.720 and steady build. But like my thing to any artist 0:10:34.800 --> 0:10:38.760 would be like you have the option to get your phone. 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:41.120 Let's say you're a whatever type of rapper you are, 0:10:41.679 --> 0:10:43.240 a lot of things hold rappers back. 0:10:43.240 --> 0:10:43.520 I don't. 0:10:43.559 --> 0:10:46.640 I don't got the clothes, you know, I don't got 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:49.920 the outfit to do it well. People like the genuine 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:52.400 struggle too. You could, I believe somebody could blow up 0:10:52.440 --> 0:10:53.600 wearing dunkin Donuts. 0:10:53.760 --> 0:10:55.320 I mean you you wear a wife beater for the 0:10:55.320 --> 0:10:56.800 most part too. You could wear a. 0:10:56.720 --> 0:11:00.440 Wife beater or or if you're playing with a couple 0:11:00.520 --> 0:11:03.560 of thousands of dollars, let me tell you something you 0:11:03.559 --> 0:11:05.880 don't need. You don't need a camera man. You don't 0:11:05.920 --> 0:11:08.800 need a professional camera man. You just need an iPhone 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:11.840 maybe an android. You know you need you need a 0:11:12.320 --> 0:11:15.120 you need a decent phone with a decent camera. If 0:11:15.160 --> 0:11:18.120 you got a couple thousand dollars, go to Sacks fifth 0:11:18.160 --> 0:11:20.560 if you want to look. I'm not saying like super 0:11:20.600 --> 0:11:22.079 fake it to you make it, but you know, get 0:11:22.120 --> 0:11:25.080 a get a decent outfit. Man, throw that shit on. 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:28.880 Go put the phone up. You could record the song 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:31.960 off your phone. Is forty dollars to record a song without. 0:11:31.679 --> 0:11:34.680 City three baby was recorded on iPhone exactly right. 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:38.959 So you put the phone up. You got your new outfit, 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:42.920 go wrap the song man, return that outfit, get your 0:11:42.920 --> 0:11:47.600 money back. Now you got your clip. Now when you 0:11:47.640 --> 0:11:50.719 post that shit, send it to you know, fifteen to 0:11:50.800 --> 0:11:54.120 your friends. At the same time, put a group chat. 0:11:54.280 --> 0:11:57.280 Let's push this at each fifteen people, send it to 0:11:57.320 --> 0:12:00.040 another fifteen people and just see what happens. And do 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:03.680 that seventy times. Yeah, and if you're good, I bet 0:12:03.720 --> 0:12:04.640 you something to happen. 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:07.960 Yeah, if it's If it's good though, yeah. 0:12:08.000 --> 0:12:12.320 Put out, put out, you know, put out? How volume work? Man? 0:12:12.640 --> 0:12:14.920 Yeah? Not for sure? What you would you say that 0:12:15.720 --> 0:12:18.360 at what point in time? Because you've had a long 0:12:18.880 --> 0:12:22.440 journey in this music ship. What point in time, do 0:12:22.520 --> 0:12:24.520 you feel like the rubber finally started to hit the 0:12:24.559 --> 0:12:28.080 pavement In terms of you feeling like, okay, I'm cutting through. 0:12:28.160 --> 0:12:28.880 This is working. 0:12:30.960 --> 0:12:33.000 The rubber hitting the pavement fucked me. 0:12:33.040 --> 0:12:36.520 Up, bro Okay, the tire hitting the. 0:12:36.360 --> 0:12:42.120 The tire, I was like, I can't Jesus Christ, Hey, yo, 0:12:42.559 --> 0:12:43.760 you fucking East Coast guys. 0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:44.480 I swear to God. 0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:46.920 Now I'm just the saying you're talking about, Like we're 0:12:46.960 --> 0:12:50.600 in a real serious conversation, Like you. 0:12:53.360 --> 0:12:56.959 What what was the question I was asking? Obviously there's 0:12:57.000 --> 0:12:59.920 been a long journey for you music. Yeah, it wasn't 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:02.920 always this, you know. I'm sure there was times where 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:06.600 you maybe thought about fucking giving up. At what point 0:13:06.640 --> 0:13:11.000 in time was the traction real enough where you felt like, Okay, 0:13:11.040 --> 0:13:13.600 this is something that I got to pour more into. 0:13:13.679 --> 0:13:14.400 This is working. 0:13:14.920 --> 0:13:20.360 So a Beanie Seagull line is what changed my mind forever. 0:13:20.880 --> 0:13:24.360 In terms of rap, he said, play your cards, go 0:13:24.440 --> 0:13:25.960 against all odds, shoot. 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:26.120 For the moon. 0:13:26.280 --> 0:13:28.800 If you miss, you're still amongst those stars. And I 0:13:28.880 --> 0:13:31.520 thought about it, like, man, you know, I'm a really 0:13:31.520 --> 0:13:34.560 talented rapper and I love being around this music. Shit, 0:13:37.280 --> 0:13:40.040 if I just keep doing my thing, even if I'm 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:41.719 not at the moon. I'll be around the stars and 0:13:41.800 --> 0:13:43.720 I meaning people as stars, but just you know, the 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:47.080 opportunities and things like that. And that's when I committed 0:13:47.080 --> 0:13:51.520 to just I'm gonna do this until until it burns out. 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:53.839 There was a point I never thought I would make 0:13:53.880 --> 0:13:56.520 money from it, though I was getting paid like a 0:13:56.520 --> 0:14:04.120 part time McDonald's worker, you know, And I was almost 0:14:04.160 --> 0:14:07.679 at the point of like I might have been at 0:14:07.720 --> 0:14:10.040 the point of breaking a couple of times, but It'll 0:14:10.040 --> 0:14:12.600 only be for like two hours and then I'll be 0:14:12.640 --> 0:14:14.920 back to it, like no, I'm rapping. Wow, you know, 0:14:15.120 --> 0:14:19.480 So this is what I'm supposed to do. Bro, I'm gifted. 0:14:19.560 --> 0:14:24.560 I'm the best, you know, in my mind at least. 0:14:23.280 --> 0:14:25.440 What was the difference maker for you to finally start 0:14:25.520 --> 0:14:27.800 making like decent money where you were like. 0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:32.000 Okay, pandemic as soon as the pandemic hit. What happened, 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:36.520 I swear the pandemic hit. I caught COVID like bad, 0:14:36.640 --> 0:14:38.960 Like I called COVID around the time fred to God's 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:42.480 son died, Like yeah, I called COVID when people kind 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:44.600 of didn't know what it was. And I have asthma 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:46.720 like I used to get rushed to the hospital as 0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:49.440 a little kid and be on the net neverlizer treatments 0:14:49.480 --> 0:14:52.360 and shit like that emergency room. So I really went 0:14:52.400 --> 0:14:54.280 through it with COVID. I couldn't breathe, Like I didn't 0:14:54.280 --> 0:14:56.600 take a FaceTime for three days because I didn't want 0:14:56.640 --> 0:14:59.720 to talk, like I'm conserving my breath. That kind of 0:14:59.760 --> 0:15:02.440 fuck me up. I lost a lot of weight. I 0:15:02.520 --> 0:15:06.960 came I came back on Instagram like a month after, 0:15:07.120 --> 0:15:09.920 and I was like, yeah, I'm straight, and I dropped 0:15:09.920 --> 0:15:12.560 a song. I dropped a song called RLS Real Life 0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:16.160 Shit and it was during the time of like it 0:15:16.240 --> 0:15:18.840 was like a lockdown when you were like weren't supposed 0:15:18.880 --> 0:15:22.400 to go outside and stuff, and that song just just 0:15:22.520 --> 0:15:24.960 kind of hit. And then I just started dropping music 0:15:25.000 --> 0:15:27.400 from there, and it was like because the world was 0:15:27.480 --> 0:15:34.080 so slowed down, people had the time to consume what 0:15:34.160 --> 0:15:37.520 I was saying for the first time in my career. 0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:40.720 It's like all the noise was blocked out. You couldn't 0:15:40.840 --> 0:15:44.480 drop a club anthem, you sound stupid. And club anthems 0:15:44.480 --> 0:15:48.479 have never club Yeah, club anthems have never been my specialty. 0:15:48.600 --> 0:15:53.240 So when the pandemic happened, it slowed everything down, and 0:15:53.320 --> 0:15:56.080 everyone was on their phone and I just had my 0:15:56.200 --> 0:16:00.320 cameraman tangent were running around, were just shooting videos and 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:03.880 now I'm like, oh, I'm gonna start doing some freestyle 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:07.000 wraps off the phone to them. I just took advantage 0:16:07.000 --> 0:16:08.960 of the world slowing down because I'm like, now they 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:11.560 got to listen, And as soon as people listened, my 0:16:11.640 --> 0:16:15.560 shit just went, and you know, it turned up. In 0:16:15.600 --> 0:16:18.720 twenty twenty one, I got into the rap game. And 0:16:18.800 --> 0:16:21.280 I've been in the rap game since twenty twenty one, 0:16:21.440 --> 0:16:24.880 so like, yeah, like five four or five years. However, 0:16:24.880 --> 0:16:27.400 I was in this game before that, but I wasn't 0:16:27.440 --> 0:16:29.800 though I can't lie like I'd be lying to you 0:16:29.880 --> 0:16:31.520 if I told you I was in the game. I 0:16:31.600 --> 0:16:36.240 was maybe playing in a euro League, not even a 0:16:36.240 --> 0:16:39.960 euro League. I was maybe playing like I was playing 0:16:39.960 --> 0:16:43.960 in niketball Rucker, not even at the Rucker. Yeah maybe 0:16:44.000 --> 0:16:46.960 maybe maybe pick up ball, and not even as like 0:16:47.000 --> 0:16:49.640 a starter, you know, but like I got into the 0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:53.040 NBA in twenty twenty one. Yeah, just my accountants could 0:16:53.040 --> 0:16:55.400 tell you that how many years prior to that was 0:16:55.440 --> 0:16:57.800 the journey, like twelve thirteen. 0:16:58.440 --> 0:16:59.360 That's crazy, man. 0:17:00.520 --> 0:17:02.200 So I only feel like I've been in this shit 0:17:02.240 --> 0:17:04.560 for four or five because I don't count those years 0:17:04.560 --> 0:17:08.800 when people talk about those like the old you remember 0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:10.920 this song? No, I don't, because you know how much 0:17:11.080 --> 0:17:14.480 work I put in since twenty twenty one, Like, how 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:15.879 extend the output is crazy? 0:17:16.040 --> 0:17:17.920 I'd say, you output wise? What's your catalog? 0:17:18.000 --> 0:17:18.040 Like? 0:17:18.040 --> 0:17:20.600 How many how many bodies of work catalog wise are 0:17:20.600 --> 0:17:21.960 you at now at this point. 0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:25.080 Probably like fourteen fifteen. 0:17:25.359 --> 0:17:29.199 That's a lot. Yeah, as anybody ever flirted, because I 0:17:29.200 --> 0:17:30.959 know a lot of independent artists been getting hit up 0:17:30.960 --> 0:17:32.600 by selling their catalogs. That's something you would do. 0:17:34.560 --> 0:17:36.720 There's a lot of conversations in my life. 0:17:37.200 --> 0:17:39.400 Gieparico told me how much they offered him for his shit, 0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:41.640 and I was like, bro, yeah. 0:17:41.600 --> 0:17:43.880 I could, I could. 0:17:44.280 --> 0:17:46.320 I don't speak to It's cinly a seven figure bag 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:48.320 for you if you sold it, of course, it's multiple 0:17:48.320 --> 0:17:49.320 seven figures. 0:17:49.680 --> 0:17:51.080 Yeah, come on, Cad, Like. 0:17:53.000 --> 0:17:55.720 I feel like if you're confident enough that like there's 0:17:55.760 --> 0:17:57.800 more where that came from, you know. 0:17:58.080 --> 0:17:58.600 I mean, like. 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:00.640 It's an option. 0:18:02.400 --> 0:18:06.879 Yeah, I see, you know random eighty thousand dollars checks 0:18:07.119 --> 0:18:08.880 periodically a lot of times. 0:18:09.200 --> 0:18:11.880 What's your what's your Obviously you're still would. 0:18:11.720 --> 0:18:13.959 So raspy right, Yeah, I'm going to create right now though. 0:18:14.000 --> 0:18:16.040 Okay, so the district comes through Created. 0:18:15.600 --> 0:18:18.160 The distroc goes through Create, and I got a pup 0:18:18.200 --> 0:18:20.720 deal through Empire. Shout out Ghazi. 0:18:20.880 --> 0:18:23.200 Oh you're double dipping with it with the indie distros. 0:18:23.359 --> 0:18:26.280 Got work with Empire, low work we create. 0:18:27.000 --> 0:18:30.000 I'm just an independent guy, man, I love it. But 0:18:30.160 --> 0:18:32.400 if they put me on a major man and give 0:18:32.440 --> 0:18:37.199 me a Post Malone feature, have Taylor Swift singing in 0:18:37.240 --> 0:18:41.040 the car like this, maybe Ed Sharnon come to the 0:18:41.119 --> 0:18:44.080 studio and listen to my album and co sign it. 0:18:44.680 --> 0:18:46.600 I do a commercial with Tom Brady? 0:18:47.880 --> 0:18:48.639 Did Tom Brady? Come? 0:18:48.760 --> 0:18:51.560 Hold on? I'm on something right now. Yeah, the Tom 0:18:51.600 --> 0:18:56.600 Brady commercial, Damn Cavy threw me off. I was just 0:18:56.600 --> 0:18:59.760 thinking about the grand plan because you know, I got 0:18:59.800 --> 0:19:03.600 those singing ballad type anthems like oh and then justin 0:19:03.640 --> 0:19:07.359 Timberlake on the hook, I'm going bro like a different stratosphere. 0:19:07.400 --> 0:19:09.719 I'll probably be up at least like eighty to one 0:19:09.800 --> 0:19:12.400 hundred million, and that could really happen in my life. 0:19:12.400 --> 0:19:15.639 So we're just gonna manifest that right here. You see, 0:19:15.800 --> 0:19:18.640 that was all using the complexion for the connection right there. 0:19:18.760 --> 0:19:23.480 I love it. Have you gotten to the point where 0:19:23.520 --> 0:19:26.600 like you've turned any major situations down or at least 0:19:26.680 --> 0:19:29.080 I know they got it. Had to have called, right, keV. 0:19:29.119 --> 0:19:31.240 Gotta know I'm coming into this interview Fried. 0:19:34.240 --> 0:19:38.359 You said what a major situation like in terms of yeah, yeah, 0:19:38.400 --> 0:19:40.040 major's coming in and knocking on your door. 0:19:40.119 --> 0:19:43.720 Yeah, every single every single well maybe not every single, 0:19:43.800 --> 0:19:47.680 I don't know all of them, but yeah, any situation 0:19:47.760 --> 0:19:49.879