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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 2: Welcome in our number two Clay Travis buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 2: growing rapidly Clay Travis buck Sexton there as well, and

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Speaker 2: we will be able to reach you in as many

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Speaker 2: different ways as possible. I think one of the big

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Speaker 2: challenges that's going on right now, Buck is there is

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Speaker 2: so much daily news that it is accelerated to a

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Speaker 2: level that I don't know we've ever seen before, even

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Speaker 2: in the Trump era. And we just talked about this

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Speaker 2: week Nanny McCarthy. In the last hour, there weren't this

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Speaker 2: many legal proceedings, for example, taking place simultaneously. And I

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Speaker 2: think we have such a drinking from a fire hose

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Speaker 2: effect that many people are locked in and it's almost

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Speaker 2: impossible to move them off of whatever they believe in

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Speaker 2: many different directions right now. And I asked you this

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Speaker 2: question off Airbuck, as it pertains to this lawsuit Civilly

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Speaker 2: with five million dollars in damages. The jury by and

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Speaker 2: large found that Trump didn't rape Egene Carol, but that

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Speaker 2: he should pay her millions of dollars in damages because

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Speaker 2: he said that she was making it up and had

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Speaker 2: defamed her. Now, I don't know about you, but if somebody

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Speaker 2: accuses me of rape and I didn't do it, the

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Speaker 2: first response is I didn't do it. You call out

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Speaker 2: whether or not this woman is being truthful. Now, the

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Speaker 2: jury did find that there was a sexual assault, but

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Speaker 2: I'm actually surprised. I had talked about on this program

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Speaker 2: Buck that I thought the jury might hit Trump with

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Speaker 2: hundreds of millions of dollars in damages just because they could.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that the Trump legal team will say this,

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Speaker 2: but I think on some level they have to view

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Speaker 2: this as a victory because the jury rejected the claim

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Speaker 2: that he raped her, and the five million dollars, which

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Speaker 2: is going to be appealed, is for Trump kind of

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Speaker 2: a rounding, air Buck. It's not a substantial impact to

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Speaker 2: his finances.

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Speaker 3: I think people also just instinctively recognize that, yes, it's

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Speaker 3: a civil trial, but to come to and what they

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Speaker 3: wanted was obviously a court to find that Trump raped

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Speaker 3: a woman. That was the fact that there's no criminal

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Speaker 3: there's really no evidence for that. I mean, what what

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Speaker 3: Andy was refferring to before. I mean, it would be

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Speaker 3: hearsay usually, right, they've loosened the rules around that a

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Speaker 3: little bit, but someone saying something to someone a long

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Speaker 3: that on a whole range of things. Also, the statute

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Speaker 3: of limitations being waived so they could even bring this

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Speaker 3: a rape on the basis of no evidence whatsoever. No

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Speaker 3: Right, That means that anyone could just get a you know,

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Speaker 3: it lowers the bar of evidence so much. Who couldn't

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Speaker 3: be accused as a man of rape thirty years ago?

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Speaker 3: And it just turns into a well, if I don't

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Speaker 3: be at least at some level, you know, I think

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Speaker 3: how this would be a precedent that's really damaging. I mean,

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Speaker 3: this case too, Okay, they think maybe something happened, but

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Speaker 2: But I think what a lot of people are because

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Speaker 2: They said he didn't do it because the standard in

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Speaker 3: It's not even likely, this jury said, it's not even

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Speaker 3: likely based on what you can show us that this

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Speaker 2: And the five million dollars whatever in the grand scheme

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Speaker 2: small amount for him. Now, the question that I asked

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Speaker 2: you off the air buck, does this in any way

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Speaker 2: in the nineteen nineties and he asked to pay. I

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Speaker 2: think people already have made up their mind on Trump

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Speaker 2: seen the evidence, and you believe Biden and his family

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Speaker 2: improper payments. I believe you're right on that. But on

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Speaker 2: the flip side, tens of millions of people believe that

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump is a rapist, neanderthal grabber by the pussy

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Speaker 2: So I wonder, in many ways we've got this, all

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Speaker 3: Bus So I again, I try to apply the lessons

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Speaker 3: Yes Clay, most people, it just turns into background noise.

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Speaker 3: I also believe there are more serious charges coming against

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Speaker 3: And I don't know if this I think this is

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Speaker 2: He's got one hundred percent got a problem with him,

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Speaker 2: But there's no I guess my point is buck what

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Speaker 3: Oh that doesn't probably change that doesn't it might it

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is to me where the election is

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Speaker 2: I know there's a few of those dudes in the

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Speaker 2: falling on the fainting couch, like, oh, hard demock, can

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Speaker 2: you believe the tweet that Trump said? Or the truth

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Speaker 2: how have we ever reached this world? I understand that

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Speaker 2: MSNBC and they're like out there genuflecting and how dangerous

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Speaker 2: Trump is, like Andrew Jackson killed a man in a duel,

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Speaker 2: all right, Like if you go study American history, whatever

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Speaker 3: Right, you could ask any any standard MSNBC watcher, what's

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Speaker 3: You say, what's worse Woodrow Wilson. There's a lot of

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Speaker 2: Righteous they really are.

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Speaker 3: And all this right, so there's no turning back from

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Speaker 3: there's no recognition of maybe I've been brainwashed, and the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Buck, This ties in with something I think

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Speaker 2: always problematic for young kids, Buck, because you remember, when

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Speaker 2: when you're a young kid, anything that happened before you

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Speaker 2: feels ancient. Well, when you both have that going on

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Speaker 2: and you have no historical knowledge with which to base

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Speaker 5: You can't have a free society if people aren't allowed

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. So Gavin

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Speaker 2: spent several years now of the Gavin Newsom administration studying

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Speaker 2: the idea of reparations, and the Reparations Committee has considered

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Speaker 2: I want Gavin Newsom's face put on for that Michael

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Speaker 2: Asian parents who are not particularly wealthy and buck. You

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Speaker 2: saw this with the elite New York City high schools,

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Speaker 2: but this has become an issue in a lot of

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Speaker 2: big cities where they're trying to have racial diversity in

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Speaker 2: these elite high schools. But the way they get racial

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Speaker 2: diversity is actually not by kicking white people out. Now

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Speaker 2: it's by kicking Asian people out, and not even which

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Speaker 2: is even crazier not even counting Asian people as a

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Speaker 2: minority because they have too high of scores on standardized tests,

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Speaker 2: which is amazing because many of these kids are first

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Speaker 2: generation immigrants whose families are just completely committed to the

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Speaker 2: idea of the American dream. And then the Harvards of

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Speaker 2: the world and a lot of these elite high schools

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Speaker 2: come out and say, well, actually, the cosmetic diversity requirement

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Speaker 2: is vastly being exceeded of the Asian community, so we're

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Speaker 2: not gonna allow you guys in.

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Speaker 3: It is also in this in this reparations plan that's

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Speaker 3: never gonna happen, by the way, yeahs never gonna happen,

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Speaker 3: because not even in California, not even in California. Because

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Speaker 3: it's a little bit like when you know, AOC put

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Speaker 3: out the Green New Deal and everybody was yay, you know,

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Speaker 3: fighting climate change, and then the people that want to

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Speaker 3: stay in power and know that they can't be completely insane,

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Speaker 3: did a little bit of number crunching. They're like, well,

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Speaker 3: this would cost you know, one hundred trillion dollars or something,

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Speaker 3: so so I don't know if you can spend the

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Speaker 3: one hundred trillion to make the imbeciles who like AOC

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Speaker 3: and think that the climate is gonna you.

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Speaker 2: Know, kill the whole world or whatever. I don't think

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Speaker 2: we can spend that.

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Speaker 6: Kind of money on this. But is there a was

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Speaker 6: there a means testing component to this?

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Speaker 2: Meaning?

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Speaker 3: Because right now I'm like, well, if the reparations Committee,

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Speaker 3: I haven't look, I haven't, to be fair, I haven't

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Speaker 3: seen everything that the committee has put out.

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Speaker 6: But you know, there are there are a lot of.

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Speaker 3: Black individuals in California who are are making.

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Speaker 2: A great deal like me, Lebron James and Will Smith

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Speaker 2: get reparations. I mean, I think I could.

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Speaker 3: They qualify under the California reparation I would assume there

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Speaker 3: must be some kind of a means testing because others but.

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Speaker 6: Not even just by the way, not not even just Lebron,

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Speaker 6: you know, or not Lebron.

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Speaker 2: But I don't. I don't know who plays for the

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Speaker 2: teams out there.

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Speaker 3: But you know what I mean, what if you're you know,

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Speaker 3: you're like a well paid executive at a law firm,

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Speaker 3: or you know, a lawyer at a law firm, or

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Speaker 3: or a corporate executive, you're making five hundred grand a year,

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Speaker 3: you get you get a reparations check. There must be

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Speaker 3: there must be some means testing, right there has well

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Speaker 3: they the means testing, I didn't see. That's actually a

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Speaker 3: really good question.

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Speaker 2: I think even more challenging than the means testing, because

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Speaker 2: at least there would be tax records to reflect that.

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Speaker 2: They said, Buck, they were going to have a genealogy

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Speaker 2: committee to examine whether you had any slaves in your

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Speaker 2: past history. They were going to cut immigrants out. But

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Speaker 2: the thing on reparations that nobody ever dives into is

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Speaker 2: United States slave reparations to a large extent, would have

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Speaker 2: to be paid by many different countries, right because most

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Speaker 2: of slavery in the United States happened under British colonial rule.

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Speaker 3: If if you were a I mean, there's so many

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Speaker 3: reasons why this is completely insane and the whole thing

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Speaker 3: is pandering and it's gross. And Gavin Newsom is the

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Speaker 3: most shameful individual in American politics today.

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Speaker 2: In a lot of ways.

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Speaker 3: So if you're a Vietnamese immigrant who just his parents

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Speaker 3: came to California, you know, in the last twenty years,

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Speaker 3: let's say, and you you know that came here with nothing,

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Speaker 3: they're eating his immigrants to show up without without a

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Speaker 3: dollar to their name. Basically, your tax dollars are going

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Speaker 3: toward reparations the state of California.

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Speaker 2: Really, that's you're.

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Speaker 3: Paying state taxes in California as a Vietnamese immigrant, live

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Speaker 3: in the American dream now working so hard because of

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Speaker 3: the legacy of slavery. That's justice to the left. I mean,

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Speaker 3: think about that for a moment.

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Speaker 2: What about mixed race people, buck This is also gets

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Speaker 2: like really complicated, right, So what if you have a

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Speaker 2: white parent and a black parent do you cancel out?

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Speaker 2: Even Barack Obama, if I remember correctly, is descended from

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Speaker 2: Confederate slave, Confederate slaves, that is, on his white side

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Speaker 2: of his family, he had members of his lineage fighting

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Speaker 2: for the Confederacy.

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Speaker 3: Like, how does that work? Can I point out that

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Speaker 3: I've looked at the cal Matters site on this one

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Speaker 3: and done an overview here there is no mention whatsoever

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Speaker 3: of an income cap for people, Yeah, who would qualify?

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Speaker 3: So the answer is, if you are a resident of

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Speaker 3: California who qualifies under the racial standards they have set forward,

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Speaker 3: you could be a black guy in California worth one

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Speaker 3: hundred million dollars, which there are obviously, and you could

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Speaker 3: get a check for a million dollars for reparations if

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Speaker 3: this were to go through, which is obviously never going

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Speaker 3: to happen.

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Speaker 2: That's why I shot out, You know, Lebron James is

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Speaker 2: a resident of LA. He plays for the Lakers. I

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Speaker 2: didn't even know that. I was thinking of him as

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Speaker 2: a cavalier. So yeah, yeah, yeah, no he was. He's

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Speaker 2: from Akron, but he is a billionaire who resides in

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Speaker 2: I believe the Brentwood area of Los Angeles. And Will

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Speaker 2: Smith is also I think close to a billionaire, also

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Speaker 2: resides in the LA area. So in theory those guys

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Speaker 2: would get would get checks for reparations. Now, Gavin Newsom

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Speaker 2: Evil Keanu Reeves aka Michael Scott from Todd Scott's has

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Speaker 2: already come out and totally torpedoed this, which again, Buck,

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Speaker 2: they spent years on this, on these recommendations, and it

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Speaker 2: got cover as if it were a serious thing in

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Speaker 2: the New York Times and the Washington Post and all

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Speaker 2: of the usual left wing media outlets, and then he

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Speaker 2: just came right out and said, yeah, this is not

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Speaker 2: gonna happen. We're just gonna do other things.

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Speaker 4: Clay, he takes it seriously. He doesn't want to just

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Speaker 4: limit this to money other things, you know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, this is really what he's selling everybody, a

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Speaker 3: reparations committee to pay people for the legacy of slavery,

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Speaker 3: and Gavenusom's response is like, whoa, whoa, let's not make

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Speaker 2: Oh oop, sorry, no, no, I was just gonna say

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Speaker 3: She'll be with us in a few minutes. Also something

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Speaker 3: I almost feel like we're doing a promo here for CNN.

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Speaker 3: But you know, tonight Trump is going to be on

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Speaker 3: at nine Eastern on town Hall. Caitlin Collins is going

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Speaker 3: to be hosting it, and it will be Trump, not I.

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Speaker 2: Shouldn't say versus.

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Speaker 3: It makes it sound like it's a royal rumble. Trump

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Speaker 3: takes on all comers, you know, he takes on everybody.

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Speaker 3: But it's going to be Trump versus the audio. I

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Speaker 3: said it again, Trump taking questions from the CNN audience.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, we'll have to see how that shakes out. Clay,

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Speaker 3: any early indicators of how you think this will go.

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Speaker 2: I think he'll do really, really well, because again, so

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Speaker 2: much of your performance is the expectation of the performance,

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Speaker 2: and the average CNN viewer expects for Trump to be

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Speaker 2: the Antichrist, to the extent that they even know what

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Speaker 2: the Antichrist is, because many of them don't know religion

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Speaker 2: at all. But let's pretend they do they expect him

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Speaker 2: to be the Devil incarnate. They expect him to be Hitler,

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Speaker 2: to show up with horns sprouted out of his head.

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Speaker 2: And I think he's going to walk around in that

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Speaker 2: New Hampshire setting with all of these different I think

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Speaker 2: it's Republican and undecided voters, and I think he'll do

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Speaker 2: really well and be fairly likable because he is fairly

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Speaker 2: he's in settings.

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Speaker 3: We both spend a lot of time at this point

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Speaker 3: talking to Trump, both on air and off air, and

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Speaker 3: he is really good at being funny and off the

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Speaker 3: cuff and and charming when when he wants to be

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Speaker 3: he's He's as good as it gets at making you

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Speaker 3: feel like, oh man, I'm having a great time sitting

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Speaker 3: here with Trump and we're having such a good cun

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Speaker 3: which is a huge political asset. This is not just like, oh,

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Speaker 3: everybody's just talking about the beer test, right, and they

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Speaker 3: said that George W. Bush was really good at that.

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Speaker 3: Al Gore not so much. I'll Gore be drinking bud Light,

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Speaker 3: And what I'm just saying he bud Light is not

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Speaker 3: going away.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: You know it's.

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Speaker 3: That that I've if you were trying to come up

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Speaker 3: with a way if you sat a bunch of marketing

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Speaker 3: experts in a room with how to destroy the bud

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Speaker 3: Light brand with its audience.

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Speaker 2: Hard to think of a faster.

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Speaker 3: Way to do it than what they did. It is

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Speaker 3: pretty remarkable when you think about it after the fact.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: So, yeah, there's there's gonna be a the CNN town

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Speaker 3: hall to night, which we are looking forward to. Uh,

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Speaker 3: I am going to watch, so I'm gonna be uh

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Speaker 3: you know, I'm gonna be adding to CNN's ratings.

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Speaker 2: When is the last time you've watched CNN? That's a

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Speaker 2: great question.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 3: Maybe sometimes on election night I'll flip the waver back

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Speaker 3: and forth, usually to see them, especially if if really

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Speaker 3: good results have come in for Republican and to watch

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Speaker 3: the sadness in their eyes. But I really don't. I

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Speaker 3: can't say that I watched it in anymore. I used

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Speaker 3: to watch it for opposition research a fair amount, and

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Speaker 3: I used to go on a fair amount, but not anymore.

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Speaker 2: Any doubt that CNN will win the night with as

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Speaker 2: you said, it's on at nine pm.

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Speaker 3: N Look, Seawan show is super strong, So I mean

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Speaker 3: he doesn't have a Trump town hall, but it'll be

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Speaker 3: instead of it being the usual nine pm route. You

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Speaker 3: know they'll get a Trump bump over at nine pm

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Speaker 3: for sure, So we'll see, you know, we'll see what

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Speaker 3: that I mean.

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Speaker 2: I would.

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Speaker 3: I think that CNN maybe is doing a million, maybe

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Speaker 3: a hundred thousand at nine pm right now. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I could be off, but.

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Speaker 2: I think he will double or triple what their usual

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Speaker 2: audience would be. Trump would And I'm gonna be honest

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Speaker 2: with you, I don't remember the last time that I

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Speaker 2: watch CNN either. I have it in my calendar because otherwise,

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Speaker 2: you know, kind of run you can forget about it.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna put it on at eight o'clock Central, nine

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Speaker 2: o'clock Eastern and just see how he does. I'm also

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Speaker 2: curious to see frankly Buck, how CNN handles him, and

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Speaker 2: how Caitlyn Collins does, because it's a big stage for

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Speaker 2: her as well.

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Speaker 3: This is an opportunity for CNN to try to reset

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Speaker 3: toward It's never gonna be fair, but it can be

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Speaker 3: not insane, right, it could be democrat, but there are

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Speaker 3: some rules of the road. As journals, we'll see possible.

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