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Speaker 2: I'm Peanut to Himan, and this is the NFL Player's

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Speaker 2: Second Acts podcast with me, as always my chursity co host.

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Speaker 3: This Roman Harbor. What's up baby?

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Speaker 1: What's up?

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Speaker 3: Dog? I like that shirt? Thank you. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Man, just learning that you can't count because you went

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Speaker 2: from one, two to ten and it's easily just to

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Speaker 2: say three and then start, but you don't like to

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Speaker 2: do anything that way. So let's just jump right to

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Speaker 2: I guess uh yeah. He is an Alabama guy. He's

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Speaker 2: from Alabama. Introduce the introduce you're stepping on my toes.

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Speaker 2: I don't even have my nose in front of me. Okay,

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Speaker 2: all right, I'm gonna make you do this one.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 2: He's a defensive back that played for the Cowboys, Broncos, Bills.

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Speaker 2: He is in the University of Alabama or u A B.

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Speaker 2: All right, University of Alabama, Birmingham's Hall of Fame, and

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Speaker 2: he's now CEO of RCX Sports, which is a leader

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Speaker 2: in you sports in all different sports. Welcome to the

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Speaker 2: podcast Isael Reese and fellas.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, thank you. I like that shirt too, man,

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Speaker 1: I might have to.

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Speaker 2: I get you off my back when I'm done. I'm

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Speaker 2: that type of guy. You are that kind of guy

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Speaker 2: I am. All right, So isaill kind of kind of

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Speaker 2: go through your path, your journey.

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Speaker 3: You walk on at UA B, you earn.

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Speaker 2: A scholarship, and then you end up playing seven eight

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Speaker 2: years in the league.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, man. It was called it the Cinderella story

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Speaker 4: if you will.

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Speaker 1: Man. Yeah, going to U A B. People didn't even

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Speaker 1: know what had a program.

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Speaker 4: I was going to say, because this was this was

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Speaker 4: because you're in the nineties.

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Speaker 3: Man, Yeah, yeah, you ain't be in the nineties. Was

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Speaker 3: very very much so startup.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I blame in the nineties ninety nine. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 2: but they were around, but they still were early days,

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Speaker 2: that's right, That's right. Yeah, they were recruiting me in

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Speaker 2: two thousand and one. Why don't you It was well,

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Speaker 2: you know what happened Alabama for me, and like they

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Speaker 3: It was like he knows, Yeah, yeah it was they

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Speaker 1: Yeah it see see then you could have joined that

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Speaker 1: history train. Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 3: It's fine. I'm I'm in I made another Hall.

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Speaker 4: Of Fame, right but uh but no, man, walking on

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Speaker 4: there was you know, it was a great experience, you know,

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Speaker 1: You know, I was thinking about two schools, and so when.

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Speaker 4: UAB called me, it was just like, hey, would you

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Speaker 4: I don't know how he's still here. You should just

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Speaker 1: We don't have no scholarships for you, but I heard

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Speaker 4: If you want to give it a shot, and you know,

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Speaker 4: Walked on, started all four years and recruited.

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Speaker 4: So it was, uh, it was a good journey man,

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Speaker 1: Nobody ever been drafted from U A. B.

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Speaker 4: You the first first pick me, and then another dB

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Speaker 2: And so I got to know this too now because

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Speaker 3: I'm just happy to be here. Yeah, then that what

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Speaker 4: Well I honestly, man, I went in with that mentality

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Speaker 1: And so I was, I was. I was out for it, man.

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Speaker 4: I was like, look, I got nothing to lose and

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Speaker 4: That journey man, just you know, being a defensive player. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I being a dB. You know, you get out, you

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Speaker 4: I just I've always had that kind of mentality, and

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Speaker 4: It just it showed on the field and everything. I've

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Speaker 1: So well have.

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Speaker 2: So No, you you clearly have shown the mentality and

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Speaker 4: I don't know how now, If anything, that's what the

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Speaker 4: I'm going to the Cowboys as a dB. You got

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Speaker 4: I don't have nothing to lose. I'm just gonna leave

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Speaker 2: Then the uab's education piece, I think people understand how hard.

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Speaker 3: Of the school it is.

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Speaker 2: It is academically, academically, it's top notes. It's the best

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Speaker 3: The hospital, that whole thing.

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Speaker 2: You take the educational piece from ua B, how do

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, I mean that whole thing of being a student

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Speaker 4: I had a very good dB coach as well to

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Speaker 1: He was my dB coach man. So just I prided

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Speaker 4: Knowing the game, not only knowing what DB's were doing,

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Speaker 2: Being a being a six round draft pick and trying

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Speaker 2: to make that team with what you just mentioned are

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Speaker 2: the Deando Darren Woodson's Did.

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Speaker 1: You have to play special teams? Oh yeah, oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: absolutely absolutely.

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Speaker 4: When when you first go out, that's the first thing

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Speaker 4: they say, Hey, you want to make this team.

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Speaker 1: Make a name for yourself on special.

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Speaker 2: Teams, just like that, no more, man, Yeah, they really

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Speaker 2: don't make guys.

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Speaker 1: They don't well. And then in Dallas, I mean.

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Speaker 2: Have respect for guys that don't play special teams.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this guy right.

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Speaker 2: Here never played a special team in the NFL a

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so he don't know. So Avazono, people know that

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Speaker 4: they had the long hair recorded. I mean special teams,

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Speaker 4: the board. So you didn't have a choice. In Dallas,

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Speaker 4: That's just that's just the way Dallas culture was.

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Speaker 2: I love that culture.

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Speaker 3: Kick me.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, you're not sorry. I'm sorry, you're right, So

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, he totally missed out.

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Speaker 1: Being on a kickoff team, the real kickoff team. Back

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Speaker 3: I did some kickoff coverage.

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Speaker 4: Okay, well you like the safety man in the back,

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Speaker 1: So we're coming right down the middle. Wedge bust, wedge buster.

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Speaker 3: Well, when you're fast five, you're actually.

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Speaker 4: Exactly you're getting it before the Yeah, you gotta beat

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Speaker 1: You cam that got me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So just take it back to your rookie man,

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Speaker 2: I'd be your rookieer.

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Speaker 1: What was we all have that?

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Speaker 4: Like?

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Speaker 3: Dang, this is the league?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what was your welcome to the NFL moment?

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Speaker 1: Man? It was it practice. I'm welcome to the NFL moment.

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Speaker 4: So again, I played at Dallas, so uh, I'm laughing

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Speaker 1: Right. So I'm getting this. I mean when I say.

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Speaker 4: And I go skirting back like twenty thirty yards. And

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Speaker 1: Rest in peace.

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Speaker 4: He was a good dude, man, and another guy that

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Speaker 4: But that was my That was my welcome, welcome to

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Speaker 4: But again, Larry was a good dude too.

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Speaker 2: So we always like to talk about numbers, you know,

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Speaker 2: or football players like we like numbers.

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Speaker 1: I do, all right.

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Speaker 2: I wore forty one, all right. I got that number

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Speaker 3: But I enjoyed forty one.

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Speaker 2: Why because the four is big, but the is slimming,

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Speaker 2: forty three though for you for Tray, Yeah, used to

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Speaker 3: For Tray, it does feel better and naturally already feel to.

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Speaker 2: It already, Yeah, Tray, I like it. Yeah, Okay, you're

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Speaker 4: Big numbers, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, well, we

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Speaker 4: and being a walk on, I don't get to pick

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Speaker 4: And so they handed me to it. Man, I wore

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Speaker 2: Yeah that's so's I's heavy like a full back.

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Speaker 4: I could hit and uh me and Kevin Jackson you

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Speaker 4: know that now. I do know Kevin Jackson, Kevil, Alabama

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Speaker 1: Kenya from Dothan we played together. He and I were

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Speaker 3: I didn't know you played with keV.

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Speaker 4: Yep, yeah, yep, yep. He's back in Dothan coaching high

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Speaker 4: I wore forty four.

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Speaker 1: Man. I think that was another number that was handed

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Speaker 2: So you kept it through college.

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Speaker 4: He didn't actually tell me this until I got draft.

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Speaker 4: I don't know why I waited so long. My dad

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Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, and I kept it. Keep it

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Speaker 2: History is way better than yours.

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Speaker 3: Well, it sounds better when he calls it for That's.

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Speaker 1: What I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: It sounds way better, way better than for you.

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Speaker 2: Just say forty one. It's real slimming.

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Speaker 3: That's all.

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Speaker 2: That's the only thing you got.

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Speaker 3: The one is slimming, the four is big, the one

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Speaker 1: It's ok.

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Speaker 3: It's okay, Yeah, it's okay. I accepted. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I played both. I'm a corner safety. Yeah, which one

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Speaker 4: Play corner for me? So, you know, I natural free

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Speaker 4: But getting out on that island was it was different.

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Speaker 4: But man, just watching watching Prime, watching Kevin Smich, watching

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Speaker 1: So and that was man.

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Speaker 4: We were able to do a lot with Dian you

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Speaker 1: It allowed us to do a lot of different things

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Speaker 2: Then, yeah, you ain't ever play no no special teams.

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Speaker 2: This is exactly what I was anticipating. Let's talk about that.

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Speaker 2: So the first time it happens, Teo gets a touchdown.

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Speaker 2: First of all, I'm a forty nine Ers fan, so

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Speaker 2: I'm elated.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm big.

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Speaker 3: T O fan.

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Speaker 2: He gets an end zone, does his thing. Then the

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Speaker 2: before the Emmitt rule. Yeah okay, and then Too scores again,

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Speaker 2: H's too on the star Yeah, and all hell breaks loose. Okay,

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Speaker 2: So what are you thinking? How are you going to

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Speaker 4: Oh, it's already brewing. I mean, that's one of those

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Speaker 4: During the whole game. Woody had already got kicked out

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Speaker 1: So here it is. I'm running.

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Speaker 4: I'm probably ten yards behind Tea. I don't even know

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Speaker 4: So and then I see him just lay Tea out

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Speaker 1: I don't know why. I'm glad I did.

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Speaker 4: And here's one of forty nine ers, Liman just just

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Speaker 4: and I'm glad it kind of came out, man, because

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Speaker 3: Were there any words said that, like, you know, if

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Speaker 4: There was no word to He didn't say a word, man,

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Speaker 4: He just took off. I was like, man, you gotta

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Speaker 1: But no, he just it just like a switch hit

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Speaker 2: So the true definition we must protect this house.

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Speaker 4: That's right, yeah, protect the star man. So that was Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So that would have been really funny if you would

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Speaker 3: She was like, bro, I wasn't even doing nothing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah right, I didn't even know what was going on.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna take a short break and we'll be right back.

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Speaker 3: Tell me this.

444
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Speaker 2: So did you get right into youth sports right after retirement?

445
00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,960
Speaker 2: What kind of inspired you to kind of take that path.

446
00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:15,879
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure youth sports was a big thing in

447
00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:19,600
Speaker 2: your life, But what made you say, all right, rc X,

448
00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:21,120
Speaker 2: this is where I'm going this is what.

449
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Speaker 4: I Yeah, yeah, I think I think we all experienced

450
00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:26,879
Speaker 4: it when we played. I mean just you know, and

451
00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,040
Speaker 4: even after, but just being being a role model, you know,

452
00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,760
Speaker 4: going and speaking with kids, working with kids in any

453
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Speaker 4: type of camp. I'm sure you all have done a

454
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Speaker 4: lot of those as well. I just I thoroughly enjoyed it.

455
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Speaker 4: And even when I was in Dallas and Denver, Buffalo,

456
00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:43,320
Speaker 4: I would always do things within the youth in the community.

457
00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:46,080
Speaker 4: It was just, you know, something I was passionate about.

458
00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:49,639
Speaker 4: I never thought about it as a career or a

459
00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:53,200
Speaker 4: transition into that like what I'm doing now. But I

460
00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:54,360
Speaker 4: enjoyed doing it.

461
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Speaker 1: And so.

462
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Speaker 4: You know, when I hung up the cleats, if you will,

463
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Speaker 4: I started doing it a little bit more. One thing

464
00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,119
Speaker 4: led to the next. I was actually working with this

465
00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:09,120
Speaker 4: organization called Next College Student Athlete, and so it actually

466
00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:13,440
Speaker 4: think of like guidance counselors for student athletes, if you will,

467
00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:15,440
Speaker 4: just kind of helping them find their path, find the

468
00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:19,240
Speaker 4: right fit for them. And I joined the organization because

469
00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,800
Speaker 4: I walked on in college and I just wanted to

470
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Speaker 4: help kids find their path because you know, here it

471
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Speaker 4: is I got to live out my dreams and be

472
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Speaker 4: a college student athlete make.

473
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Speaker 1: It to the pros. And I said, all right, I

474
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Speaker 1: want to do this.

475
00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:31,440
Speaker 4: I want to I want to get involved with this,

476
00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:36,080
Speaker 4: and that kind of spurred and opened the door. NFL

477
00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:37,919
Speaker 4: called a couple of years ago, said hey, can you

478
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Speaker 4: want to camp for us at the Super Bowl? And

479
00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,840
Speaker 4: you all probably remember this rivals camps and combines what

480
00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,879
Speaker 4: they ranked kids for I've been running rivals camps and

481
00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:49,159
Speaker 4: combines for ten years. So I took over running and

482
00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,199
Speaker 4: running rivals camps and combines for years. And the NFL

483
00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,800
Speaker 4: saw that and said running camp for us, you get

484
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Speaker 4: one hundred kids. It was during the Super Bowl. Five

485
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Speaker 4: hundred kids showed up. You know, we created great experience.

486
00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,480
Speaker 4: Next thing you know, they call about NFL flag that

487
00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:06,480
Speaker 4: door opens and then I get a call from the

488
00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:07,359
Speaker 4: NBA as well.

489
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:08,560
Speaker 1: Wanted to do things.

490
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Speaker 4: Man, it just kind of it just kind of skyrocketed there.

491
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:17,040
Speaker 4: So now as CEO and founder of RCX Sports, I

492
00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:22,160
Speaker 4: work across six pro leagues, so NHL, NBA, Major League Soccer, NBA,

493
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Speaker 4: w n b A, you name it. And then I

494
00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:28,320
Speaker 4: also just partner with USTA getting more kids involved with tennis.

495
00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,920
Speaker 4: So I'm running all these different youth initiatives and youth

496
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Speaker 4: programming across multiple pro leagues.

497
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Speaker 2: Now, can you play tennis a little bit?

498
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Speaker 4: A little bit, man, I got I got a little

499
00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,200
Speaker 4: bit more involved with tennis. I wish, I wish somebody

500
00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,800
Speaker 4: gave me a tennis right growing up. You know, you

501
00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,320
Speaker 4: started thinking about it. My kids are really into tennis

502
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,439
Speaker 4: and they actually start playing during the pandemic. Now there

503
00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:50,800
Speaker 4: was nothing to do with It was a tennis court

504
00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:52,480
Speaker 4: down the street and we all were getting chubby. I

505
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,919
Speaker 4: was like, all right, let's go do something. So and

506
00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:59,199
Speaker 4: they fell in love with it. They still play. My

507
00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:04,000
Speaker 4: son is thirteen. I think he plays football too, but

508
00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,480
Speaker 4: they've really gotten involved with it and he as far

509
00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:10,920
Speaker 4: as hopefully playing college one day, if not football. So

510
00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,159
Speaker 4: it's it's been cool to see man and get more

511
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 4: kids just involved with the game. A lot of kids

512
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,239
Speaker 4: get priced out of certain sports. Ten has been one

513
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,040
Speaker 4: of them. And so you know, this has given me

514
00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,800
Speaker 4: now an opportunity, and that's what that's what tenant Usta

515
00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,960
Speaker 4: wanted to see, how do we get more kids involved?

516
00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:28,679
Speaker 4: And I said, well, we've got to break down some

517
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,960
Speaker 4: of these financial barriers and so, and you know, to

518
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Speaker 4: get more kids involved, So I said, tign me up.

519
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Speaker 1: I love to do it.

520
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Speaker 2: So so I've got I've got four kids, three girls,

521
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Speaker 2: one boy. I thought my son was going to play football.

522
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 2: I struck out with that one, which is cool. Now

523
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,159
Speaker 2: they got flag football in the schools, right, So we

524
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 2: got flag football in the state of Illinois and you

525
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,639
Speaker 2: can put or they have flag football or for like varsity.

526
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:55,199
Speaker 2: There's a jv and a varsity for girls. And my

527
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,920
Speaker 2: oldest excuse me, my number two, she plays awesome linebacker.

528
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Speaker 2: Got a couple of touchdowns it. Yeah, my twelve year old.

529
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 2: She's just like a little female Randy Moss, like just

530
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:10,360
Speaker 2: gos up against the ball. Goose is just a complete athlete.

531
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Speaker 2: Bad shout out to you. What do you feel and

532
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Speaker 2: what are your thoughts on the Olympics hosting flag football?

533
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Speaker 1: Now I love it.

534
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Speaker 4: I love it so so I've been I've been overseeing

535
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:28,159
Speaker 4: NFL flag for five years now. For the NFL, we

536
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 4: just hit eight hundred thousand kids participating in KFL flag

537
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Speaker 4: boys and girls.

538
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Speaker 1: It's massive.

539
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 4: But I remember when, you know, when I first got

540
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:41,640
Speaker 4: that opportunity in the NFL, said, hey, reimagine what NFL

541
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 4: flag and what flag football could be in and put

542
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Speaker 4: a strong emphasis on kids in under resource communities and

543
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Speaker 4: girls participating. And I remember I remember giving I called

544
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Speaker 4: Troy Vincent actually with this. I remember giving Troy a

545
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,920
Speaker 4: call a couple of years ago, and I said, true,

546
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:00,960
Speaker 4: I got it. You know, because I'm spinning my wheels.

547
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 4: How am I gonna get more girls to play football?

548
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 4: You know, flag is cool, but I'm gonna get more

549
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 4: girls to play? And this was about four years ago.

550
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:09,639
Speaker 4: I said, I got it. I said, we need to

551
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Speaker 4: make flag of college sport. He looked at me like.

552
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Speaker 1: I had three heads.

553
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,359
Speaker 4: He was like, okay, I said, just tell me the

554
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:19,680
Speaker 4: league will support it if we can get colleges to play.

555
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,200
Speaker 4: And uh so he said, He said, absolutely.

556
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Speaker 3: Support the idea, support the idea, and that everybody else

557
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Speaker 3: will fall in line.

558
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 4: And put resources to build it. That's right, that's right.

559
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 4: And so I called him about a week later.

560
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Speaker 1: So you started this, I did, I did. You gotta

561
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Speaker 1: give them a little bump on that one.

562
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Speaker 3: Another, but Alabama change in the world for him.

563
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Speaker 1: That's right.

564
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Speaker 4: So so so you know, we get everybody in the room.

565
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Speaker 4: I said, all right, try I got everybody lined up,

566
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 4: and he said, well, I said, when you come to

567
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Speaker 4: me and said, yeah, he said, going to beat us

568
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:05,440
Speaker 4: at NCUBA, NAI in JCAA, so junior colleges, all the

569
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 4: collegiates associations. I said, I can already tell you who's

570
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 4: going to be the first one. It's going to be NAI.

571
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Speaker 4: And so sure enough we lead that meeting. NAI says

572
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 4: we're in. You know, because high school flag had already

573
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:22,440
Speaker 4: been played. Florida has been playing at gosh fifteen plus years.

574
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 4: I mean they've been playing it a long time, but

575
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 4: it was only three or four states playing. Now we

576
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 4: just hit our fifteenth. Mississippi Louisiana just sanctioned, So there's

577
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Speaker 4: fifteen states that have now sanctioned.

578
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Speaker 1: For girls to be to play.

579
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 4: But it's now because of NAI and JUCO came on board.

580
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 4: Then n c DOUBLEA, Division three, Division two, and Alabama

581
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 4: again showing some love. Alabama State just became the first

582
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Speaker 4: D one and also HBCU to offer flag football for

583
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Speaker 4: women in college. So this year we're looking at sixty

584
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 4: plus colleges and universities that would be offering women the

585
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 4: opportunity to play in college and counting is that's big?

586
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 2: You You created that you you planted that seat, and it.

587
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 4: Was I planned to see NFL you know, back then,

588
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,880
Speaker 4: put some resources to it. The collegiate associations all came

589
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,360
Speaker 4: on board. I had a lot of good, strong relationships

590
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,679
Speaker 4: and mine, y'all was in recruiting before, so my collegiate

591
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 4: association relationships were strong. Uh So, you know, so we've

592
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 4: opened that door. And then we just recently submitted the

593
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,879
Speaker 4: application to the n C double A for flag as

594
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 4: an emerging sport. And that's the step you take when

595
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 4: you want to get flagged to be a championship sport.

596
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 4: And so they called and asked us if we would

597
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 4: submit application for that. We uh, we did a couple

598
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 4: of months ago. So we may get the news any

599
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,679
Speaker 4: day now. And that's where sports sit, that's trying to

600
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 4: go through the path. So a lot of women's sports,

601
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 4: women's wrestling, beach volleyball. You know, I followed the path

602
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 4: and took notes of these other sports that went in

603
00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 4: and got into a championship status. So those doors opened, man,

604
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 4: And to your point early in LA twenty eight, and

605
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,120
Speaker 4: that opportunity of now seeing it in Olympics too, which

606
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 4: is huge.

607
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 2: Yes, I like that. I say, oh man, look we've

608
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 2: got to know you more and more just by sitting here,

609
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 2: You've accomplished a lot.

610
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: I mean you went.

611
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 2: From walk on to NFL player, to getting out, finding

612
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,719
Speaker 2: a passion in U sports, building it out at your

613
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 2: own hometown. Then all of a sudden, now planting that

614
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 2: seed of what we just heard, the story which none

615
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,919
Speaker 2: of us knew. Now yeah, so yeah, now we have

616
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 2: d one women's flag football. Yeah, all of these things.

617
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 2: Is there anything that you take more pride in saying? Like,

618
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,719
Speaker 2: man that maybe you don't take pride in it now.

619
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,640
Speaker 2: Maybe not because you're still in it. Yeah, still grinding

620
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 2: through your heads down, But like, man, I want you

621
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 2: to come up out of it, come up out of

622
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 2: it a little bit and say look back and like

623
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 2: what do you look back and say, Man, I'm really

624
00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:58,400
Speaker 2: proud of that.

625
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:00,880
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, it would. It would definitely.

626
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:01,120
Speaker 3: Man.

627
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 4: You know, our individual accolades playing the game, uh, you know,

628
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 4: you never forget that moment and it's a dream come true.

629
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:09,120
Speaker 1: Man.

630
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 4: But helping to open this door for women to be

631
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 4: to play college athletics, that's that's that's man. I remember

632
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 4: when I sat down and told my my family, you know,

633
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 4: my daughter's seventeen, my son is thirteen were sitting at

634
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 4: the table, and I knew it was about to happen.

635
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 4: And for my daughter to reach over and pat me

636
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 4: on the back and say, Dad, I'm proud of you

637
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 4: that that man, I had to go to the bathroom.

638
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 1: My eyes got water. You know, it was one of

639
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 1: those moments. So and that that to me.

640
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 4: Man, So so to your to your point, yeah, that

641
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 4: that meant something that you know, to to truly make

642
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 4: a difference in this game, yes, and giving women an

643
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 4: opportunity we had, you know, to say, I played football

644
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 4: and now I see girls you know, on social media

645
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 4: and there there's signing day and so forth, and then

646
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 4: going watching college games and uh. But but to your

647
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 4: point though, still writing chapters, Man, I can't wait to

648
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 4: see the UAB Alabama everywhere and they're getting four rids

649
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 4: everywhere and playing at every university. Man, And it has

650
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 4: that kind of momentum. So it's fifty thousand girls playing

651
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 4: in high school now for.

652
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 2: The high school, well my high school probably, I think

653
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 2: we were in the state championship this year in flag football. Yeah, yeah,

654
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 2: so we had a really good this year. It's Banana's

655
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 2: to me. When I was growing up, all you had

656
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 2: was the opportunity to maybe playing the powder.

657
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: Puff game the same there too, man, And now.

658
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 4: To see that's it, that's it, that's that's it. So

659
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 4: and it's and just trying to break these doors down.

660
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 4: And Alabama is another, you know, great example, because it

661
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 4: wasn't a high school sport in Alabama and US being

662
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Speaker 4: from there. So I asked the Falcons would they supported

663
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 4: and they were like absolutely, So the Falcons helped support

664
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 4: it with Alabma High School Athletic Association so that they

665
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 4: could get funding to start it and make it a

666
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 4: high school sport and sanctioned. So so just breaking these

667
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 4: doors down, man. So the goal is we were on

668
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 4: every state to offer it and the goal is to

669
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 4: get all the way across the board. D one on down, HBCUs,

670
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 4: n ai juco. Just keep doing it, man.

671
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 2: Keep a huge advocate for Olympic flag football. I know

672
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 2: there was talks maybe a few months ago, and I

673
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 2: forget the gentleman's name. He was the quarterback and do

674
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 2: se everyone was tripping on him and you know, I

675
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 2: can't you guys can't play this sport. What are your

676
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 2: thoughts on professional athletes that are already in the NFL

677
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 2: wanting to go to the Olympics and play flag football.

678
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 4: I think they should. I hope they get the chance.

679
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 4: I wouldn't be surprised if some former players don't get

680
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 4: more actively involved, but I hope the active players get

681
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 4: that opportunity because what it what it reminds me of

682
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 4: is the dream team. Absolutely, when you think about Michael

683
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 4: Jordans and seeing that, and uh, you know you we

684
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 4: always think like, man, it'd be cool if we could

685
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 4: do that and meddle and represent our country. So I

686
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 4: think they deserve that opportunity. It'll only elevate the game.

687
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 4: But for them personally, I mean, who wouldn't want to

688
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 4: see that, you know, and on the men's side and

689
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 4: just see that opportunity of you know, NFL players and

690
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 4: everybody won't see how well they can play. At the

691
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 4: end of the day, man, NFL players will crush it.

692
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 4: I mean I'm around the flag game a lot, and man,

693
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 4: you start you start putting the NFL player. It's still

694
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 4: football at the end of the day. It's just like

695
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 4: girls getting involved. They backpall and was covering. You know,

696
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 4: it's quarterbacks. It's football, you know, So you know it

697
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 4: would be good so I hope that they can get in.

698
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 4: I hope they give them an opportunity. But I wouldn't

699
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 4: be surprised when LA twenty eight hit if you at

700
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 4: least got some notable NFL names on that list are

701
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 4: vying for that opportunity to represent Team USA.

702
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 3: I just think it's cool because we didn't know what.

703
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 2: The ninety two Dream Team was going to do to

704
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 2: the world what it did for basketball.

705
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 3: Right right, it changed, that's right right.

706
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 2: So, and but once these people get to travel and

707
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, somebody gets to see the best

708
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 2: of the best in football and another country. Maybe it's

709
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 2: not twenty twenty eight. Maybe it's gonna be something after

710
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 2: it where all of a sudden we implant or we

711
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 2: go into another country and where people can actually see them,

712
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:09,719
Speaker 2: touch them.

713
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 3: They because that's what it really was.

714
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got to see these players and they were

715
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,239
Speaker 2: like just enamored, and all of a sudden, now we

716
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 2: look up thirty years down the road, and this basketball

717
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 2: is a global sport. The best players are not always

718
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 2: in America. It is dominated by foreign players outside of

719
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 2: America that now all come here to play with the

720
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 2: best of the best. So I would look forward to

721
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 2: seeing like what that part of it would do.

722
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, And I actually think to your point, I

723
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 4: think flag football is definitely gonna evolve the game. You know,

724
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 4: NFL continues to play NFL games in other countries, and

725
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 4: it's a constant, you know, track to try to get

726
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 4: more tackle football globally and participating. But flag has that

727
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 4: opportunity to be to do that for both men and women,

728
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 4: so and you know, and kind of level the playing field,

729
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 4: if you will, a little bit, especially on the women's side.

730
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Speaker 4: But what I've even seen in my own son, and

731
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 4: what I'm getting to is he played flag before tackle.

732
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 4: So my son is in uh, he's going to the

733
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 4: ninth grade. Now I can see what flag helped him

734
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 4: before we before we put the pads on. So you

735
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 4: start thinking about teaching the game in that way. And

736
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 4: I just I saw him he learned the game a

737
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 4: little bit more, he learned it slower than you have

738
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 4: to learn everything at once, and it just it helped tremendously.

739
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 4: So I think it's said, I think it's that part

740
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 4: of the game too that can on the male side anyway,

741
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 4: definitely help and grow in the game truly globally by

742
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 4: getting flag involved in the Olympics because it's just gonna

743
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 4: only help the growth of that side.

744
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,479
Speaker 1: And of course you know women playing the game as

745
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: well too, So.

746
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 2: Let's do it.

747
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no's eight, let's let's go.

748
00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 2: Let's do let's get on his flag football journey next to.

749
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 3: Go, all right, if you really want to know.

750
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 2: So in the lockout year in twenty ten or twenty

751
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 2: eleven eleven, Malcolm Jenkins and myself got bored and we

752
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 2: played flat football with the quarterback. Do said he was

753
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 2: my wide receiver because I'm like, dude, I'm only playing quarterback.

754
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 2: Yeah so yeah, right, so I was throwing dimes to

755
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 2: him like in twenty eleven. Yeah, playing quarterback in the

756
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 2: Flag Football League. Even God rest his soul. Joe Joe

757
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 2: McKnight came out there and played too. Were just all

758
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,320
Speaker 2: out here, all these NFL so it can be done.

759
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 2: It can't be done. And it was like, you know,

760
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,919
Speaker 2: it was competitive. We didn't know what we were doing

761
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 2: because you know, it's rules to it, and the way

762
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 2: they play the game is can definitely speed up speed.

763
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 4: I got a how about how about y'all put a

764
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 4: team together versus Team USA, like we just current Team USA.

765
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 3: Like we construct the team, let's play the game.

766
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 2: Yeah all right, player and coach owner like George, Yeah.

767
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 1: It'd be exciting.

768
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 3: Let's do it.

769
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: And y'all heard what Goodal dropped the other day? Right?

770
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: No pro Flagle? Oh lord, did y'all hear that news?

771
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 3: My knee is gonna be so sah pro flag.

772
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, if we do this, I'll play

773
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 2: more golf. I'll go buy some clubs right now. You

774
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 2: know what, let me tell you something. You have accomplished

775
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:31,399
Speaker 2: a ton, You've done a lot, You've seen a lot,

776
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 2: and you continue to do that. Are you naturally like

777
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 2: just this entrepreneurial mind like where does this mindset come

778
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 2: from deep down to where you continue to have these

779
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 2: growth processes or or do you just accomplish then go

780
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 2: to the next goal?

781
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 4: All right, man, I I'm doing what I'm supposed to

782
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 4: be doing. I feel that I feel like this is

783
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 4: my calling and especially being in youth sportsman, And that's

784
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 4: the only way I can explain it. But to your

785
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 4: point of entrepreneurial mindset, I definitely have that, always have,

786
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 4: and but but doing that and coupling it with youth

787
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 4: sports and kind of being in this position. And and

788
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 4: also you know, again we talk about the business aspect,

789
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 4: but but also looking at it from a standpoint of

790
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 4: like I don't I don't look at it from a

791
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:19,959
Speaker 4: financial growth standpoint as much as I do the participation

792
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 4: in making sure all kids get the opportunity to play

793
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 4: the business side of it to take care of itself.

794
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 4: But uh So, it's more of a cause based business man.

795
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 4: And I just I'm really passionate about what I do.

796
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 4: And I got a great team that I've been able

797
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 4: to mass that have been working with me years and

798
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 4: believing in this pie and the sky vision that I had.

799
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 4: So uh So, yeah, man, it's it's been good. It's

800
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 4: been a blessing just to be able to do it

801
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 4: and employ people, uh and open up doors for kids

802
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 4: for women. Uh Man, Now a day feels like work.

803
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 4: I know that's cliche, but uh man, I'm I'm I'm.

804
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 1: Loving what I'm doing. I'm loving what I'm doing.

805
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's awesome. You've got a great journey, You've got

806
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 2: a great story. Uh You're personal Mount Rushmore. You know

807
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 2: this is people that have had influence, Coaches, teachers, family members.

808
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 2: Just if you could pick four people that have helped

809
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,720
Speaker 2: shape you and mold you into the man you are today.

810
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 2: Who would those four people be?

811
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 1: Oh?

812
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 4: Man, man, it's start with my parents, my mother and

813
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 4: father first and foremost.

814
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 1: Man.

815
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 4: You know, that's that's that's where it started. I could

816
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 4: just stay in the family tree, h easily.

817
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 1: Man.

818
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 4: But I would say, also, man, you know I had

819
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 4: some college teammates because I was going through some some

820
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 4: some difficult times.

821
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 1: Man, we all we all do. And uh, they're like brothers.

822
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, you get to college, you get

823
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 4: the pro So I got some uh, some guys, Ron Sigler,

824
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 4: Chris Daniels. Man, these uh, these are my two dudes

825
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 4: that you know, brother from another mother. But uh, you

826
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,439
Speaker 4: know we mold and we you know, we look after

827
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:52,879
Speaker 4: each other.

828
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: Man.

829
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 4: So they they've been strong enough. I mean, that list

830
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 4: could go on beyond four. But man, you know I

831
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 4: was fortunate around some good brothers and one as a

832
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 4: high school coach now as a cardiologist, and we all

833
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,280
Speaker 4: play ball together, you know, and we just were formed

834
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 4: a good bond. It's still strong to this day. So

835
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 4: but but again I start my parents, go to my grandparents,

836
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 4: and beyond we're just being deeply rooted in family too.

837
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,879
Speaker 4: Man has a lot to do with who I am

838
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 4: and the man I am today.

839
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 2: So I appreciate you to us and I'm so glad

840
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 2: I asked that question because I did not know you're

841
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 2: the man responsible for getting flagged football into college. I'm

842
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 2: telling everybody's like, I know the godfather who put it

843
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 2: in college like.

844
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 4: That, I'm like the guy behind the curtain. Man, I'm

845
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 4: putting going.

846
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 3: I'm putting you out there.

847
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 2: This is the man who got women's flag football into

848
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 2: the college.

849
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 3: Like I'm putting your face out there, like, let it

850
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 3: be known. It's black. You want to.

851
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 2: Come on now, creator, innovator, Yeah, motivator. I just think

852
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 2: it's in firing. So it's a beautiful thing. And this

853
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 2: is one thing I'd want to make sure I highlight.

854
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 2: And it has nothing to do with all your accomplishments.

855
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 2: It kind of goes under the radar. But just think

856
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 2: about this for all those kids and people and parents

857
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 2: that are listening to how important your education is. Because

858
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 2: this man was an honor student in high school whose

859
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 2: coach knew that he could make it in at you

860
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 2: ab number one, and before a coach can recruit you,

861
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 2: can he get in So the fact that you had

862
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 2: your grades right then is what allowed you to be

863
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 2: able to be able to say, hey, go get this guy,

864
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 2: walk on, become a starter, go to the NFL, and

865
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 2: then continue to pour it and change this game right now.

866
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 2: But it all started with getting your grades right and

867
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 2: being that person first. So you truly are all about timing.

868
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 2: You're blessing your bright guy, I can tell, and your

869
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 2: parents raise you right down there in doting brother.

870
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I appreciate it. Man, Alabama, Alabama. You know we

871
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 4: send that shout.

872
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 2: Out just what we do baby three through four dogs.

873
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 1: Hey, guys, I appreciate it.

874
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 3: Thank you.

875
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: Thanks,