WEBVTT - The Diddy Trial: “He’s the Leader of a Criminal Enterprise” 

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, folks, it is Thursday, June twenty sixth and closing

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<v Speaker 1>arguments are underway in the Ditty Trial. Welcome to this

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<v Speaker 1>Ditty Update edition of Amy and TJ First robes. Can

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<v Speaker 1>you just believe it? Closing arguments? Seven weeks of this trial,

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<v Speaker 1>this has been going on for which has been engulfed

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<v Speaker 1>in this for so long. It's almost over.

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<v Speaker 2>In a weird way, because we've been following it so

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<v Speaker 2>closely for these past seven weeks, time has flown by.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually can't believe it's almost been two months.

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<v Speaker 3>And yes, to your.

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<v Speaker 2>Point, it feels crazy that it's over or it's about

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<v Speaker 2>to be over.

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<v Speaker 1>And as we speak, folks, says this recording, closing arguments

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<v Speaker 1>are underway. The prosecution is going first. Christy Slavic is

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<v Speaker 1>handling handling it for the prosecution. But Rose, we got

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<v Speaker 1>a better idea this morning. It seemed like every day

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<v Speaker 1>there's a new update to the schedule that is a

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<v Speaker 1>little surprising to us. But we I think this is

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<v Speaker 1>it now, This is going to be the schedule.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so the prosecution is going to finish its closing

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<v Speaker 2>arguments today. The defense is not going to begin its

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<v Speaker 2>closing arguments until Friday, and after the defense gives its

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<v Speaker 2>closing arguments, the prosecution will have a chance for rebuttal,

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<v Speaker 2>and then of course the judge has to give the

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<v Speaker 2>jury instructures, instructions that they hammered out yesterday. So for sure,

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<v Speaker 2>I think we can say we thought we were sure

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<v Speaker 2>of but now we're one hundred percent surew Okay, ninety

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<v Speaker 2>nine point nine percent sure that the jury won't even

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<v Speaker 2>begin to start their deliberations until Monday at the earliest.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So going with that schedule again, both sides said

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<v Speaker 1>they needed four hours, So help me with this ropes.

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<v Speaker 1>They said they needed four hours, But were they thinking

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<v Speaker 1>two for the closing and then two for a rebuttal?

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<v Speaker 1>Or is this closing going to be four? Then the

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<v Speaker 1>defense is going to do four and then the rebuttal

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<v Speaker 1>could be how long?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>See, I'm confused now about because now Friday could be

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<v Speaker 1>a hell of a day for the jury if they

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<v Speaker 1>have to listen to four hours of the defense and

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<v Speaker 1>then another hour two hours prosecution and then jury instruction.

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<v Speaker 2>So according to court reporters from what I have been

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<v Speaker 2>able to deduce, they say that today will be a

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<v Speaker 2>shorter day Thursday and Tomorrow will be what they described

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<v Speaker 2>as a long day, so I think it'll be what

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<v Speaker 2>they can get in.

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't know how long.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems as though the prosecution is going to or

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<v Speaker 2>expects to take four hours today and then who knows

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<v Speaker 2>how long the rebuttal will be. It might be dependent

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<v Speaker 2>upon what they hear from the defense, so they might

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<v Speaker 2>that might be fluid, that might not even be set

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<v Speaker 2>in stone right now in terms of because how would

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<v Speaker 2>you know what to rebut until you hear what the

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<v Speaker 2>defense actually presents?

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<v Speaker 1>And what do we make of this? With the judge

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<v Speaker 1>of saying about the deliberation schedule, he said he's going

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of leave it in the hands of the

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<v Speaker 1>jury for what their deliberation schedule is going to be.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, how much leeway do they exactly get? They

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<v Speaker 1>can't have full control. But what did he mean? I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't fully understand.

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<v Speaker 2>I imagine that, you know, they have given up so

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<v Speaker 2>much of their time.

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<v Speaker 3>Perhaps if some members of the.

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<v Speaker 2>Jury need to be home by three or some you know,

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<v Speaker 2>some jury members need to be able to get their

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<v Speaker 2>kids off to school, they might be able to deliberate

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<v Speaker 2>among themselves to pick the hours that work best. For

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<v Speaker 2>the group, and maybe the foreman decides that it might

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<v Speaker 2>be the first chance that they all have to actually

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<v Speaker 2>collectively make a decision on something. Before they actually make

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<v Speaker 2>a decision on the verdict, they'll make a decision collectively

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<v Speaker 2>on their timeline.

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<v Speaker 3>They used to hearing that, I'm not either.

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<v Speaker 2>No. Usually they say jury reports at this time and

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<v Speaker 2>court is out, or at least deliberations will end at

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<v Speaker 2>this time.

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<v Speaker 1>So sometimes the judge will ask the jury, do you

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<v Speaker 1>all want to go a little later today? Sometimes I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen that, but I've never seen I can imagine. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're if you're a juror, right now, they say,

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<v Speaker 1>how what would you like your hours to be? What

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<v Speaker 1>would you ask for?

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<v Speaker 2>I would like to have as long of a day

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<v Speaker 2>as possible to get it done as quickly as I could.

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't want to keep coming back each day, So

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<v Speaker 2>give me a nine hour day and a quick lunch

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<v Speaker 2>instead of having to come back day after day after day.

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<v Speaker 2>Especially if some of these folks, they have jobs, they

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<v Speaker 2>have lives, they're missing. What do they get fifty bucks

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<v Speaker 2>a day? You know, and some folks are our wages,

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<v Speaker 2>hourly wages.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't have salaries.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not getting paid by their work, so I would

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<v Speaker 2>think there would be a motivation to go ahead and

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<v Speaker 2>put in the work each day instead of extending the

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<v Speaker 2>days that you have to laborate.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you work through the weekend?

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<v Speaker 3>No, No, I don't think so. No, everybody needs a break.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody break.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good point. So we're still waiting on that

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<v Speaker 1>part to fill in about the schedule, but it looks

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<v Speaker 1>like we do have a better idea of how this

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<v Speaker 1>thing is going to go. Now, how this is going

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<v Speaker 1>to go with the with the prosecution, the case they're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to make, We've gotten a little insight. We've listened

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<v Speaker 1>to the first least hour plus now of the prosecution

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<v Speaker 1>doing its clothes, and they are using this word over

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<v Speaker 1>and over and over enterprise, enterprise, enterprise. He was the

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<v Speaker 1>head of an enterprise, enterprise enterprise. They first started with robes,

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<v Speaker 1>this racketeering conspiracy charge, which is the one that has

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<v Speaker 1>the highest possible sentence. He could life in prison for

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<v Speaker 1>this thing. And they're trying to build and explain to

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<v Speaker 1>them piece by piece why he was the head of

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<v Speaker 1>a criminal enterprise. This is why this is kidnapping, this

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<v Speaker 1>is drug distribution, So they're really piecing this thing together,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's, to be honest with you, it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>some of the legalities of his hart to follow.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, so right when they're getting specific about it, and

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<v Speaker 2>they've really been focusing right now at least on the

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<v Speaker 2>racketeering charge, because that is, of course, as you point out,

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<v Speaker 2>the most serious one. So apparently they're giving the jurors

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<v Speaker 2>this instruction. The prosecution is there are four elements to

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<v Speaker 2>convict on a racketeering charge. Those elements are a conspiracy

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<v Speaker 2>to participate in criminal enterprise having an impact on state

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<v Speaker 2>and foreign commerce, they say, did he was knowingly part

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<v Speaker 2>of that enterprise, and then the enterprise agreed to commit

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<v Speaker 2>at least two crimes.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm already confused.

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<v Speaker 2>So basically, someone Diddy would have had to have commit

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<v Speaker 2>committed two individual acts in any of these categories kidnapping, arson, bribery, bribery,

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<v Speaker 2>drug distribution, sex trafficking, interstate transport for prostitution.

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<v Speaker 3>Forced labor, witness tampering, and obstruction. My head's already spinning.

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<v Speaker 1>And we put this in here, folks, not to say

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<v Speaker 1>it so you would understand it, but for you to

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<v Speaker 1>understand why it's so confusing and what these jurors now

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<v Speaker 1>have to deal with. That's just one little example we

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<v Speaker 1>gave you. There's tons of this stuff in there trying

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<v Speaker 1>to piece through. And what was the thing they did?

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<v Speaker 1>The prosecution took out part of the jury instruction? What

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<v Speaker 1>was it? They wanted the attempted kidnapping taken out? They

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<v Speaker 1>just wanted the word attempted taken out because if you

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<v Speaker 1>have attempted in there, it's such a confusing bit of

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<v Speaker 1>our legal code that they have to figure out if

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<v Speaker 1>you use the word attempted. They just said, the hell

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<v Speaker 1>would it take attempted out? And we just want to

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<v Speaker 1>say kidnapping? He was kidnapping? Folks, Well, it's mine. How

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<v Speaker 1>can they get through this quickly?

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<v Speaker 2>I so, I don't know's that's the number one thing

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<v Speaker 2>I'd like to impart to everyone listening.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I feel for the jury. They again,

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<v Speaker 3>they've been sitting.

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<v Speaker 2>And listening to this testimony, some of it fascinating, some

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<v Speaker 2>of it gripping and even maybe a little entertaining. But

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<v Speaker 2>this is heavy stuff because someone's life is on the line,

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<v Speaker 2>and it is so technical, and there are so many

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<v Speaker 2>categories that you have to say yes or no to

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<v Speaker 2>or maybe I don't know, but I cannot imagine this

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<v Speaker 2>deliberation is going to be quick. Even if you have

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<v Speaker 2>a feeling about what you think, you still have to

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<v Speaker 2>go through each charge, and you have to go through

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<v Speaker 2>the legalities of each charge.

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<v Speaker 3>And what it takes.

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<v Speaker 2>Did the prosecution prove these specific things beyond a reasonable doubt?

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<v Speaker 2>And this is again, like you said, this is just

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<v Speaker 2>the conspiracy. Sorry, this is just the racketeering charge.

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<v Speaker 1>So to that point, again, they're talking about, let's say

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<v Speaker 1>the kidnapping charge. We've been here about kidnapping. Was he

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<v Speaker 1>kidnapped someone kit We all know what kidnapping and we

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<v Speaker 1>think we know what kidnapping is. Well, kidnapping here is

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<v Speaker 1>just restricting Cassie's movements because he didn't want her to

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<v Speaker 1>leave a hotel room because he wanted her wounds to

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<v Speaker 1>heal first. Okay, that could sound like a stretch like kidnapping.

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<v Speaker 1>I know what kidnapping is, but that's a very technical

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<v Speaker 1>term and a technical definition of kidnapping. But they might

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<v Speaker 1>have to figure out that kind of stuff. I do

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<v Speaker 1>not know how they. I would be deliberating for weeks.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean that has happened before.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not often, but this is that complicated. And then

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<v Speaker 2>of course you have Capricorn Clark, who claims she was

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<v Speaker 2>kidnapped by one of Ditty's bodyguards and held against her will,

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<v Speaker 2>she says, for five days, and she says with a

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<v Speaker 2>light detector test because his jewelry witnessing and she didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have an explanation as to why his diamond duel where

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<v Speaker 2>he went missing. She said she was threatened by his

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<v Speaker 2>bodyguard that they were going to throw her in the

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<v Speaker 2>Hudson River. So we do have that direct testimony, but

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<v Speaker 2>is it provable. It's her word against his word.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but she also he kidnapped her because he came

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<v Speaker 1>to her house and said come with me, and she came.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's kidnapping, right That those kinds of legal questions.

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<v Speaker 1>If the guy is I mean, charge him with kidnapping

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<v Speaker 1>is one thing, But is he running a criminal enterprise

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<v Speaker 1>because he's a drug addict, maniac, madman, terrible boss and

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<v Speaker 1>domestic abuser.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, it's it is a lot. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>huge mountain of evidence and it's a huge mountain to

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<v Speaker 2>climb to prove because what the prosecution has already started

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<v Speaker 2>to tell the jurors is he had an enterprise of

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<v Speaker 2>people working for him. He couldn't do this all on

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<v Speaker 2>his own. He couldn't have done what they say he

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<v Speaker 2>did to these women if he didn't have people helping him.

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<v Speaker 2>And that created more of a a force. So these

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<v Speaker 2>women felt like they couldn't say no because they weren't

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<v Speaker 2>just going up against one person, they were going up

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<v Speaker 2>against all of his employees. And they said, even if

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<v Speaker 2>the lower level employees didn't know crimes for being committed,

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<v Speaker 2>they were still being used as I think they said

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<v Speaker 2>the term foot soldiers see.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I wanted, I thought a big part of

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<v Speaker 1>proving this case had to be that the folks had

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<v Speaker 1>to be willing, had to be knowing participants in that enterprise,

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<v Speaker 1>in that crime taking place.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought, that's so no, they're saying, as long as

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<v Speaker 2>it was just Diddy using people to enforce what he

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<v Speaker 2>was trying to control and what he was trying to get,

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<v Speaker 2>and within what he wanted to get involved criminality, it

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<v Speaker 2>didn't matter if the people who were doing his bidding

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<v Speaker 2>knew it was criminal or not, or knew what was

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<v Speaker 2>going on behind those closed doors in those hotel rooms.

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<v Speaker 2>So yes, their participation wasn't necessary for them to know

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<v Speaker 2>that it was a criminal act.

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<v Speaker 1>We've been covering this or watching this closer than anybody

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<v Speaker 1>probably listening, and we still are trying to piece this together.

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<v Speaker 2>And this was interesting to me too because the drug distribution.

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<v Speaker 2>They're saying, that's a huge part of their argument that

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<v Speaker 2>did he and his inner circle participated in what they

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<v Speaker 2>say are hundreds of acts of drug distribution? But they said,

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<v Speaker 2>if did he only did it twice, just twice where

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<v Speaker 2>he was asking his staff to get drugs and bring

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<v Speaker 2>them to him, that would meet the criteria for racketeering

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<v Speaker 2>conspiracy under the law.

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<v Speaker 3>If he just twice did that. And I didn't realize

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<v Speaker 3>that either.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is I don't know what the lesser punishment.

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<v Speaker 1>It's up to life in prison for that charge. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what the statutes are. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what it says with the guide are of what lesser charge?

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<v Speaker 1>Is there a minimum on that? When? What does the

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<v Speaker 1>charge or what does sentence have to be? But that's

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<v Speaker 1>when we Yes, it's technically tech, it could technically legally

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<v Speaker 1>be true, but you said it. This is a guy

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<v Speaker 1>we talk about emotion involved and you just human beings

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<v Speaker 1>on that stand, I'm sending him to life because he

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<v Speaker 1>might have been a super freak and because he might

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<v Speaker 1>have been a bad guy because he had a drug

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<v Speaker 1>at it. And then you could look at that and go, yeah, technically,

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<v Speaker 1>by the law, he should be going to prison for

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of his life. And maybe that's it, But

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<v Speaker 1>there's so much, there's so many mitigating and complicated factors here.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I was gonna say something else that they were

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<v Speaker 2>trying to impart to the jury, this idea that did

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<v Speaker 2>he didn't take no for an answer, that he never

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<v Speaker 2>took no for an answer, You couldn't tell him no,

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<v Speaker 2>and that was part of his enterprise, that he had

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<v Speaker 2>so much control over all of his employees, and then

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<v Speaker 2>who they claim are his sex traffic victims as well,

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<v Speaker 2>that he was a man who you had to say

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<v Speaker 2>yes to.

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<v Speaker 1>They also flat out sett also, she said a short

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<v Speaker 1>time ago in court that of course he blew up

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<v Speaker 1>kid cut his car. I mean the prosecute she just

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<v Speaker 1>flat out set as of the jury and the closing,

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<v Speaker 1>which nobody now can object and now the way it

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<v Speaker 1>can come back and necessarily rebutt it in real time.

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<v Speaker 1>She said no he didn't cut the hole out in

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<v Speaker 1>the top of the car, but she is asking the

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<v Speaker 1>jury to essentially use common sense. Of course he was

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<v Speaker 1>behind it. Of course he was. This is gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a fascinating day. For four hours they get to make

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<v Speaker 1>their case once again, and they're taking folks through a

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<v Speaker 1>piece by piece by piece. We do have a few

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<v Speaker 1>quotes here, at least from the court room as well,

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<v Speaker 1>and again this was very early on started this out.

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<v Speaker 1>This might have been in the first sentence or two.

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<v Speaker 1>He's the leader of a criminal enterprise, right, this is

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<v Speaker 1>the guy we all watched. What do we think we

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<v Speaker 1>were watching of medium mogul, a music souper, superstar, producer

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<v Speaker 1>of music genius. I don't know what do we think

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<v Speaker 1>we were watching? They say we were watching a guy

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<v Speaker 1>who was the head of a He was a mob boss.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>They described someone who spent most of his time, at

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<v Speaker 2>least in the later years, organizing and fulfilling his deviant

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<v Speaker 2>sexual fantasy. Said it was literally almost his full time

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<v Speaker 2>job at a certain point, and then getting other people

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<v Speaker 2>because he couldn't have done it all the way he

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<v Speaker 2>did it unless he had people working for him and

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<v Speaker 2>organizing it all and making it happen, and so yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he said, excuse me. The prosecution said, I thought this

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<v Speaker 2>was really interesting. These are not separate stories. They're all

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<v Speaker 2>chapters in the same book. The prosecutor said, the story

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<v Speaker 2>of Sean Combs and the criminal enterprise he led it

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<v Speaker 2>is the same book.

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<v Speaker 3>And so that's what they're trying to say.

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<v Speaker 2>This is all a part of a larger grand scheme,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's where you get this racketeering charge.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just wild to think that the purpose isn't the

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<v Speaker 1>argument here that the purpose of Bad Boy Entertainment was

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<v Speaker 1>really to run sex trafficking? Is that what we're is

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<v Speaker 1>that the argument.

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<v Speaker 2>It's what it sounds like, and that we heard and

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<v Speaker 2>yet we heard Brandon Paul say it was one percent

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<v Speaker 2>of his job.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm sure the.

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<v Speaker 2>Defense is going to have plenty to say to counter

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<v Speaker 2>what the prosecution is.

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<v Speaker 3>The picture the prosecution is.

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<v Speaker 2>Trying to paint right now that this was basically what

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<v Speaker 2>did he did all the time, and he got his

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<v Speaker 2>employees to make it happen pretty much at least weekly,

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<v Speaker 2>but sometimes multiple times within the week.

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<v Speaker 1>This is incredible. They called it a methodical pattern of

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<v Speaker 1>violence and coercion and manipulation said did he thought that

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<v Speaker 1>his fame, wealth and power put him above the law.

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<v Speaker 1>But over the course of his trial, his crimes have

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<v Speaker 1>been exposed. And that's it, right. The brutal crimes at

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<v Speaker 1>the heart of this case sex trafficking. That's what they're saying.

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<v Speaker 1>The brutal crimes at the heart of this case, sex trafficking.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what's the sex trafficking charge. Two of them, those

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<v Speaker 1>are the ones that are fifteen years minimum, yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it's ten years maximum on the prostitution charge.

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<v Speaker 1>So the sax trafficking cases are very serious.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, this is this is overwhelming, and the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that they came out with a bang, I have to say,

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<v Speaker 2>she just the prose prosecutor, Christie Slavic, has come out

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<v Speaker 2>with a bang. Just listing, listening, listening, So I wonder

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<v Speaker 2>now they'll go through methodically. It was described as like

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<v Speaker 2>the most intense and complex PowerPoint presentation you've probably ever

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<v Speaker 2>witnessed in your life. And that's what these jurors are

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<v Speaker 2>witnessing right now in court today.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's just begun. That's the crazy thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me give you through all this, it's not a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of every once in a while, we usually find

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<v Speaker 1>a way to just have a laugh or a smile,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a little levity in some of these things

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<v Speaker 1>that've been brutal. This is at least one quote from

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<v Speaker 1>Slavic that I think most people will find a little funny.

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<v Speaker 1>Talking about Kid Cutty and saying that Diddy, yes was

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<v Speaker 1>behind the bombing of the man's car. She says, quote,

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<v Speaker 1>of course the defendant was behind this. Now, it shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>come as a surprise to you that we're not suggesting

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<v Speaker 1>the defendant personally cut the hole in Kid cut his Porsche.

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<v Speaker 1>You heard the audio notes the defendant didn't even buy

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<v Speaker 1>his own soup. Wow, that's okay. I'll give her that one.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>That might not be a Perry Mason moment like we

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<v Speaker 2>saw with the defense, but that certainly was something that

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<v Speaker 2>landed right like, Okay, that okay, fair.

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<v Speaker 3>Fair point.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't make the argument, yeah, he would have he

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<v Speaker 1>had nothing to do with that. Well, yeah, of course

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<v Speaker 1>he wouldn't. He didn't even buy his own soup.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, to get more specific about what Slavic

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<v Speaker 2>said about this racketeering conspiracy, and I was talking about

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<v Speaker 2>how all of the folks who got his soup and

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<v Speaker 2>did his other bidding in terms of getting him drugs

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<v Speaker 2>and everything else he needed. She said that the law

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<v Speaker 2>recognizes when someone commits a crime as part of a group,

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<v Speaker 2>they're more powerful and more dangerous, and she said that

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<v Speaker 2>is what happened in this instant instance with Diddy. She said,

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<v Speaker 2>obviously Didty was already a very powerful man, but he

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<v Speaker 2>became more powerful and more dangerous because of the support

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<v Speaker 2>of his inner circle and his businesses. And that is

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<v Speaker 2>the enterprise that they're talking about that he created. And

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<v Speaker 2>she acknowledged that, yes, this does sound like and is

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<v Speaker 2>more often associated with the mafia or with organized crime,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's where a lot of folks have been like,

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<v Speaker 2>come on, she did. She acknowledged that because people have

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<v Speaker 2>been saying that from the start of this trial that

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<v Speaker 2>maybe the prosecution is overreached. They're trying too hard to

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<v Speaker 2>put him behind bars for too long. They could have

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<v Speaker 2>just charged him with domestic abuse. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>there's a federal charge for that, but at least the

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<v Speaker 2>state could have. But there could have been lesser charges

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<v Speaker 2>that would have been easily provable, including drug charges, But

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<v Speaker 2>they went for the big charge of racketeering, and she acknowledged, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>that's usually where it is applied to, but in this

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<v Speaker 2>case it also applies.

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<v Speaker 1>I missed that note, So yeah, I mean whatever, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>she's just kind of acknowledging the oh wow, I miss that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, she said the defendant used power, violence and fear

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<v Speaker 2>to get what he wanted. And that does sound like

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<v Speaker 2>a boss.

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<v Speaker 1>But that is hard to think of the Five Families

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<v Speaker 1>of New York right to think of what they operated,

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<v Speaker 1>what they did, and tossing people in the river and

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<v Speaker 1>taking out hits, and there's drugs and there's all this

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<v Speaker 1>kind of racketeering and running. All that stuff going on

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<v Speaker 1>is one thing. The dude was feeding his sexual desires.

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<v Speaker 1>That was his ultimate aim, right.

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<v Speaker 2>And it didn't matter, according to the prosecution, who he hurt,

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<v Speaker 2>what he had to do, and he used physical violence

0:19:50.720 --> 0:19:53.040
<v Speaker 2>as a form of intimidation to make sure that he

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<v Speaker 2>kept people where he wanted them, including yes, Cassie and

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<v Speaker 2>Jane and the other women who we heard from during

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<v Speaker 2>this trial. It's interesting, while all of this picture is

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<v Speaker 2>being painted of Diddy as this mob boss like man,

0:20:09.119 --> 0:20:12.520
<v Speaker 2>he's wearing this light blue sweater and a white collared shirt,

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<v Speaker 2>he's pouring water from a craft. But they said he's

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<v Speaker 2>so This was interesting to me too.

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<v Speaker 3>The court reporter said.

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<v Speaker 2>Throughout the trial, he's been intense, he's been involved, he's

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<v Speaker 2>been listening.

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<v Speaker 3>But he seemed confident.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, we even heard him with the judge jovially,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, saying.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you and you're doing a good job. Just really confident.

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<v Speaker 2>They said today his body language suggested that he was nervous.

0:20:35.840 --> 0:20:38.280
<v Speaker 2>They said he was rubbing his palms together when the

0:20:38.359 --> 0:20:41.040
<v Speaker 2>jury walked in, that he was shifting his weight from

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<v Speaker 2>foot to foot. And that makes a lot of sense

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<v Speaker 2>because this is it, this is it, and this is

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<v Speaker 2>the last word the prosecution, Well, the prosecution gets to

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<v Speaker 2>have a rebuttal, but coming up, this is his last

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<v Speaker 2>chance at defending himself and his last chance to make

0:20:56.400 --> 0:20:59.280
<v Speaker 2>the jury believe that he is not responsible for these

0:20:59.320 --> 0:20:59.960
<v Speaker 2>heinous crimes.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, at least he's not a mob boss. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>he's trying.

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<v Speaker 2>To make the they're kind of saying he was a

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<v Speaker 2>mob boss.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, mob bosses. Last thing on this, because I love

0:21:10.840 --> 0:21:13.320
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of mob history I do follow. But

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<v Speaker 1>the purpose of the enterprise was to make money, right, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and the crimes were all committed for the sake of

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<v Speaker 1>making money for that enterprise.

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<v Speaker 3>Correct.

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<v Speaker 1>Did he had an enterprise that was making money through music, correct?

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<v Speaker 1>And then that enterprise was used for the sex parties.

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<v Speaker 2>It almost seems like the money was his side hustle

0:21:39.400 --> 0:21:42.439
<v Speaker 2>to fund what his main goal was, which was to

0:21:42.600 --> 0:21:44.600
<v Speaker 2>satisfy his sexual needs.

0:21:44.840 --> 0:21:49.000
<v Speaker 1>But he is funding the criminal behavior versus the criminal

0:21:49.040 --> 0:21:52.960
<v Speaker 1>behavior funding the enterprise. That's the opposite. I am blown away.

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<v Speaker 1>They treat him like Fattonian, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, and it's I think a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>that that was kind of a crazy notion. But the

0:22:02.240 --> 0:22:05.880
<v Speaker 2>prosecution is leaning in and doubling down on that theory

0:22:06.000 --> 0:22:09.080
<v Speaker 2>and whatever the money was there to make it happen,

0:22:09.359 --> 0:22:13.720
<v Speaker 2>and they're saying that he used illegal means to get

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<v Speaker 2>what he wanted.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fascinating, fascinating, fascinating. Well, folks, we're going to hop

0:22:17.400 --> 0:22:21.200
<v Speaker 1>back on again later today because you have the second

0:22:21.240 --> 0:22:26.720
<v Speaker 1>half of the prosecution's closing argument is going to be today.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to hop back on and let you know

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<v Speaker 1>how they close up, how they finish up today. But

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<v Speaker 1>we always appreciate you listening.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm TJ. Holmes, along time, my partner Amy Robot will

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<v Speaker 1>talk to YUSS