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Speaker 2: Welcome Man, What'll Driving the Great?
Speaker 3: Episode two ninety two on a Tuesday, leading into what
Speaker 3: I think is the single best sports weekend of the year.
Speaker 3: NFL Divisional Round weekend is my a favorite forty eight
Speaker 3: hours in sports all year, four games, almost almost always
Speaker 3: at least six of the best eight teams, very often
Speaker 3: seven of the best eight teams. And this year we
Speaker 3: might have gone well, no, we didn't go eight for eight,
Speaker 3: but I think we did as well as we could
Speaker 3: have done, as far as going four for four in
Speaker 3: each conference where we certainly have the three best in
Speaker 3: each conference. Still remaining and then depending on what you
Speaker 3: think of the Texans versus the field and the Commanders
Speaker 3: versus the field.
Speaker 2: But we should have two.
Speaker 3: Unbelievable games in Bill's Ravens and in Rams Eagles, and
Speaker 3: two very interesting games games in Chiefs Texans and in
Speaker 3: Lions Commanders. So I can't wait for that. However, Thursday's
Speaker 3: show will be when we preview those games. Today's show
Speaker 3: will be more about recapping the six games we saw
Speaker 3: this weekend, so quickly what missed the cut that is
Speaker 3: not in today's show. We are not discussing the National
Speaker 3: Championship game in today's show. We will do a little
Speaker 3: bit about on that on Thursday. Leangelo Ball signing with
Speaker 3: def JAM this is something we will not be discussing that.
Speaker 3: I simply do not have as much interest in this
Speaker 3: story as some of my colleagues and AJ Brown reading
Speaker 3: on the sideline that actually is going to be in
Speaker 3: the show at some point when we talk Eagles, partially
Speaker 3: because I want to talk Eagles, but also partially because
Speaker 3: nothing bothers me more than someone acting like I'm dumb.
Speaker 3: I'd rather you call me a son of a whatever
Speaker 3: then just act like I'm an idiot and aj Brown
Speaker 3: being like, why is everyone talking to me? What's the
Speaker 3: problem here? While holding a giant sign above his head
Speaker 3: that says talk to me. I want to be the
Speaker 3: center of attention. Is bothersome? We will discuss that later
Speaker 3: and from the look on my son's face seems like
Speaker 3: maybe he disagrees with me, so maybe that will have
Speaker 3: a good discussion on that, or maybe you're with me
Speaker 3: on it. But let's start. De Mon's good to see
Speaker 3: you pal with last night's game. Well, I'll let you
Speaker 3: take it away.
Speaker 4: Go ahead.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So you've been praising the Rams all year and
Speaker 5: they took care of business last night in dominant fashion.
Speaker 5: Would you attribute that to the Rams or is that
Speaker 5: more of a Sam Donald meltdown type of thing.
Speaker 3: So, sadly, we got to start with Donald and this
Speaker 3: is and I set it on last Thursday Show two
Speaker 3: thursdays ago, so twelve days ago. I said, this is
Speaker 3: one of the things that is so intoxicating to me
Speaker 3: about sports, particularly professional football, but also one of the
Speaker 3: cruelest things about him, which is if we go back
Speaker 3: twelve days. So when we were sitting here on January second,
Speaker 3: Sam Darnold had in front of him man.
Speaker 2: If I play great.
Speaker 3: On Sunday night, I'm a made man. We get the
Speaker 3: one seed, we get the bye, I will end up
Speaker 3: somewhere on MVP.
Speaker 2: Ballots, fourth or fifth.
Speaker 3: I'm going to get more than, well more than one
Speaker 3: hundred million dollars guaranteed this summer, and we'll see what
Speaker 3: happens in the playoffs. That's where Sam Darnold was on
Speaker 3: January second, Play great in one game, one more game.
Speaker 2: After playing some of the best football of his life.
Speaker 3: Can I do it one more time on the road
Speaker 3: in Detroit, get the one seed locked? And then on
Speaker 3: the other side was whether he was thinking it or not.
Speaker 3: But if I play terribly, I then a week later
Speaker 3: will go into a game where if I'm bad again,
Speaker 3: it's same old Sam, And forget one hundred million, forget
Speaker 3: ninety million. I might be staring at, might be staring
Speaker 3: at another year to year situation, and everyone's gonna say
Speaker 3: the clock struck midnight, it's how thin the margins are.
Speaker 3: Play great, one more game, change myself, my legacy, how
Speaker 3: I'm thought of, and my family's life forever. Played terribly
Speaker 3: in that game, and then the next game, my whole
Speaker 3: career is on a knife's edge, and sadly for Sam,
Speaker 3: he went over to and he had his two worst
Speaker 3: games of the year in two stand alone national television
Speaker 3: Turiko and Collinsworth and then Aikman and Buck thirty plus
Speaker 3: million people watching, and they watched him.
Speaker 2: Seeing ghosts again.
Speaker 3: And now, can any team in the league that actually
Speaker 3: thinks they are contenders say to their fan base this offseason, guys,
Speaker 3: here's what's gonna put us over the top, Sam Darnold
Speaker 3: And they answer that question sadly's probably no. And the Vikings,
Speaker 3: who drafted a quarterback in the first round last year
Speaker 3: and wanted to give him the reins if he's healthy,
Speaker 3: are they just gonna hand the job to Sam Darnald
Speaker 3: even if they bring him back. The answer to that
Speaker 3: is no. And Aikman understandably kind of lit him on
Speaker 3: fire last night, basically said, fourteen wins, schmorteen wins. You
Speaker 3: played when it mattered most, and now people aren't gonna
Speaker 3: believe in you.
Speaker 2: And they were really truly.
Speaker 3: Awful performances last night, Demons. Last night, he was worse
Speaker 3: than the stats suggest Like the stats, Okay, seventy eight rating,
Speaker 3: that's not good, but it's not you know, horrifying one touchdown,
Speaker 3: one pick, two hundred and forty five yards. But if
Speaker 3: you watched that game, he was shook from the opening moment.
Speaker 5: Every drive that just kind of ruined, ruined what they
Speaker 5: had going on, couldn't get the ball out.
Speaker 3: And they were awful sacks, panicking early, trying to spin
Speaker 3: out of pressure and then just getting cooked. And listen,
Speaker 3: I didn't think Kevin O'Connell covered himself in glory last night.
Speaker 3: And Kevin O'Connell, who you know will be the latest
Speaker 3: coach to win Coach of the Year instead of Andy Reid.
Speaker 3: That's cool, Like you know he's now Kevin O'Connell now
Speaker 3: is to deal with the fact that he's had a
Speaker 3: thirteen win team playoff home playoff game and lost to
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones and a fourteen win team be a favorite
Speaker 3: on it in a neutral site playoff game, not a
Speaker 3: road playoff game anymore, neutral site and they scored nine points.
Speaker 3: But a Vikings offense that from before Thanksgiving demons. Here's
Speaker 3: what the Vikings scored in each game, thirty twenty three,
Speaker 3: forty two, thirty twenty seven, twenty seven and then nine
Speaker 3: and nine. Everybody's got to wear it. But Kevin O'Connor.
Speaker 3: O'Connell's gonna be fine. The Vikings organization will regroup. I
Speaker 3: don't know what it means for Sam Darnold, and it
Speaker 3: is a cruel reality. And this is why I get
Speaker 3: so frustrated when for other quarterbacks that come up short
Speaker 3: in a big spot, folks will lay on small sample
Speaker 3: size guys. It's a small sample sized sport. Sam Donald
Speaker 3: had around fifteen possessions, fifteen possessions that we're going to
Speaker 3: change entirely. The trajectory of his entire career came up
Speaker 3: short in them, and now he's just back to being
Speaker 3: Sam Donald.
Speaker 5: And do you think that there's anything significant that happened
Speaker 5: in the last couple of weeks that you know, made
Speaker 5: them flame out like that, or would you say that
Speaker 5: they were frauds the entire time?
Speaker 2: No, well, no, it's not that they were frauds the
Speaker 2: entire time.
Speaker 4: To take a little bit of a little bit of
Speaker 4: the heat too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's but they lost Christian darrisaw months maybe
Speaker 3: the best left tackle in football months ago and they
Speaker 3: were fine.
Speaker 2: They know what I what I think is and people
Speaker 2: w say it's in the again.
Speaker 3: The offensive line wasn't great yesterday, and the Lions are
Speaker 3: a better team, and you guys know, and we'll talk
Speaker 3: more about them in a moment. How in what high
Speaker 3: regard I think of the Rams. There is no shame
Speaker 3: in losing to the Lions in the Rams. The shame
Speaker 3: is not being competitive for ten minutes in either game.
Speaker 3: That's the problem. But it's not that they were frauds
Speaker 3: the whole time demands.
Speaker 2: It's that.
Speaker 3: The Vikings being this team was built on a foundation
Speaker 3: of we're getting excellent quarterback play guys, thirty five touchdowns,
Speaker 3: twelve picks. He's stepping up in the pocket against Seattle
Speaker 3: game on the line, delivering a dime to Justin Jefferson
Speaker 3: in double coverage and the moment that went away, it
Speaker 3: wasn't sustainable. So no, I don't think they're frauds anymore
Speaker 3: than let's say the Bills this weekend get rocked because
Speaker 3: Josh Allen has his worst.
Speaker 2: Game of the year.
Speaker 3: That won't mean they were frauds. It would mean they
Speaker 3: were a team. And this is you know, the Bills
Speaker 3: are not the Vikings. If Iking to have more talent
Speaker 3: across the roster, and the Bills don't have justin Jefferson.
Speaker 3: But you don't see what I'm saying. They are a
Speaker 3: team that was being lifted by elite quarterback play, and
Speaker 3: that Darnald gave them elite play this year. I was
Speaker 3: the guy saying, he beats the Lions, you have to
Speaker 3: include him on your MVP ballot, but I don't. I'm
Speaker 3: also the guy who does not find it in conflict
Speaker 3: to believe that and also believe but if you lose
Speaker 3: the Lions and plays poorly, the guys careers on the line.
Speaker 3: That's what the that's what football is. It's a small
Speaker 3: sample sized sport and Akman gets it. And I gotta
Speaker 3: say I love Akman. I understand he left Fox, he
Speaker 3: does ESPN now I don't care to me. He's still
Speaker 3: always a Fox guy. He is such a made man.
Speaker 3: He's like, I got three Super Bowl rings. I'm still
Speaker 3: one of the most famous people in the world associated
Speaker 3: with the NFL. I'm almost a universally popular broadcaster. I'm
Speaker 3: calling some of the biggest games and I'm not gonna
Speaker 3: couch anything. I'm gonna tell you how I feel. And
Speaker 3: he just I mean Aikman.
Speaker 2: And Buck who I don't know Troy at all. But
Speaker 2: I know Joe.
Speaker 3: It would be a stretch to say we're friends, but
Speaker 3: we've you know, I've spent some time with him.
Speaker 2: That sounded bad.
Speaker 3: Like my point is we don't know each other well
Speaker 3: enough to win be like my friend Joe Buck. But
Speaker 3: all the time I've seen with him has been great.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: And I love I've always love them as a crew.
Speaker 3: But they they are in the tenured college professor part
Speaker 3: of their careers where it's just like we're gonna.
Speaker 2: Call it as we see it. And I think that.
Speaker 3: Cook Cooking the refs, that poor guy Russell or they're
Speaker 3: they're ref analyst that Troy always kind of pokes fun at.
Speaker 2: Russell York or York, I'm not sure his name.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: And then also Cooking, Well, no I'm saying that's correct,
Speaker 3: but I'm saying they're the guy who works with them
Speaker 3: is like the ref analyst they fun at sometimes. And
Speaker 3: I mean them being like, I don't know if the
Speaker 3: Vikings know they're down eighteen points like it was it
Speaker 3: was great now to the Rams.
Speaker 2: Demons.
Speaker 3: This is why all year long, whenever we talked about
Speaker 3: teams that could win the Super Bowl, well no, that
Speaker 3: was really just the Chiefs teams that could make the
Speaker 3: Super Bowl. I shoehorned the Rams in that discussion. So
Speaker 3: they've now since starting one in four are ten and three.
Speaker 3: You now also look at Matt Stafford since getting to
Speaker 3: Los Angeles, demanse, here are his playoff numbers, Okay, because
Speaker 3: they are, I promise better than you'd imagine. Six games,
Speaker 3: five wins, one loss, and that one loss was by
Speaker 3: a point. Thirteen touchdowns, three picks, two hundred and ninety
Speaker 3: five yards passing a game, one twelve rating, seventy percent completions,
Speaker 3: eight point seven yards per attempt. Every single postseason, he's
Speaker 3: been awesome. And he with the Rams, and that is
Speaker 3: a dangerous, dangerous football team that is going to Philadelphia
Speaker 3: next weekend. A dangerous team. Go ahead, if you have
Speaker 3: another follow up there before we move on.
Speaker 5: H Yeah, So the Rams they opened up at six
Speaker 5: and a half point dogs against Philly, and you're obviously
Speaker 5: hyping them up heavily right now.
Speaker 4: Is there something Vegas is onto? What are they thinking that?
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, listen, I get it. Philly's home. Philly was
Speaker 3: a fourteen win team. The Rams were a ten win team.
Speaker 3: Philly seems to have the more complete roster, Rams got
Speaker 3: the better quarterback, Rams got the better coach, and the
Speaker 3: Rams defense has been elite for a month. That's the
Speaker 3: other part of it. That it's not just that you're
Speaker 3: getting playoff stafford and that the team was rested and fresh.
Speaker 3: It's also that the Rams the final three weeks that
Speaker 3: they played their guys Demanse, they allowed six points, nine points,
Speaker 3: nine points, and now just allowed nine points again. So
Speaker 3: in the last four games since the Rams beat the
Speaker 3: Bills forty four to forty two, they've allowed thirty three
Speaker 3: points in four games.
Speaker 2: Man, So.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I certainly like the Rams plus the points.
Speaker 2: What'd you say?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: No, I think Philly is gonna have a lot of trouble,
Speaker 5: especially considering what they just did in their past playoff performance.
Speaker 5: I don't think, you know, a real team turn the
Speaker 5: ball over that many times. I think they're gonna capitalize
Speaker 5: on it.
Speaker 2: And so, and let me say something else.
Speaker 3: If Conference Championship weekend the AFC's taken care of, it's
Speaker 3: gonna be Mahomes versus one of the guys. Right, Either
Speaker 3: Mahomes Allen is unbelievable, Mahomes Lamar is unbelievable, Like either way,
Speaker 3: that's fifty million people captivated with the King of the Mountain,
Speaker 3: with either the MVP or runner up MVP, no matter
Speaker 3: who it is, trying to knock him off after never
Speaker 3: beating him in the playoffs, either one of these guys.
Speaker 3: If in the NFC, it's the Lions trying to go
Speaker 3: to their first Super Bowl and franchise history and coming
Speaker 3: into town, is there guy Matt Stafford and it's the
Speaker 3: Stafford golf trade. It's all of it. McVeigh, Dan Campbell,
Speaker 3: Holy molly, Like what an what unbelievable drama that would be?
Speaker 3: Now again, the Eagles commanders or I guess Texans could
Speaker 3: throw a wrench in that Ravens Bills, doesn't really matter
Speaker 3: either way. The story's amazing. But yeah, man, that's I
Speaker 3: think that's what we're staring at all. Right, let's move
Speaker 3: on to some AFC games.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So Baltimore destroyed Pittsburgh from start to finish. Lamar
Speaker 5: Jackson was making the big place, he was making the
Speaker 5: small place. I think that he's starting to kill that narrative.
Speaker 5: Do you need to see more from him?
Speaker 4: More? Do you need to see from him?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: So, I in order for me to be like Yep,
Speaker 3: you don't have to worry about him in the playoffs anymore.
Speaker 2: I certainly do need to see more.
Speaker 3: This was a huge step in the right direction, and
Speaker 3: I won't minimize it because here is the thing that
Speaker 3: I thought was unique about this game, and this people
Speaker 3: got Whenever people talk about the Houston game last year
Speaker 3: and I point out the fact that he was not
Speaker 3: very good in the first half of that game, people
Speaker 3: think I'm being unfair because he was so good in
Speaker 3: the second half that why does it matter? It matters
Speaker 3: only in this context we had never seen We had
Speaker 3: only seen Lamar have won prior to this weekend one
Speaker 3: good playoff game in his career, and even in that game,
Speaker 3: he was shaky for a half, got his footing, and
Speaker 3: then was excellent. Saturday Demanse he was awesome from the
Speaker 3: first play of the game. There was no like the
Speaker 3: and the game's a blowout out eventually, but it was
Speaker 3: opening drive third and thirteen third and thirteen dime touchdown
Speaker 3: pass like that. The game wouldn't have blow out. Then
Speaker 3: all the nerves were there. Then you're playing Pittsburgh like
Speaker 3: so he gets a ton of credit for that, a
Speaker 3: ton of credit for that.
Speaker 2: Now I have.
Speaker 3: Consistently made and some people look at this as a compliment.
Speaker 3: Some people look at this as an insult. I mean
Speaker 3: it as neither. But I've consistently made the Peyton Manning comparison.
Speaker 3: And we went through that playoff game log last week,
Speaker 3: so we'll do it once more.
Speaker 2: The Peyton.
Speaker 3: In the three postseason had those two games where he
Speaker 3: had eight touchdown zero picks and then in the conference
Speaker 3: championship game one touchdown four picks disaster.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: Take that to be Lamar last year where he had
Speaker 3: the you know, was excellent in the game leading up
Speaker 3: to the conference championship game than not good in the
Speaker 3: conference championship game. Wasn't one touchdown four picks bad? But
Speaker 3: also wasn't eight touchdown zero picks good? The very next year,
Speaker 3: in his first playoff game Demons, Peyton Manning had five touchdowns,
Speaker 3: one turnover, a one forty five right, and then in
Speaker 3: the very next game they lost twenty to three and
Speaker 3: he had zero touchdowns, one pick. I say that to
Speaker 3: say this, I have not seen enough to say, oh,
Speaker 3: he just is a different player, I will say, because
Speaker 3: I don't think it was just a playoff thing for Lamar.
Speaker 3: I thought it was his inability to beat the Steelers
Speaker 3: in the regular season was a part of this. You
Speaker 3: can now argue, Demanse, it's been two of these in
Speaker 3: a row, really good performances, the regular season game against
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh and then this playoff game. And I said this
Speaker 3: on the TV show, but I want to say it
Speaker 3: again here because Danny said to me, he was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: you've set yourself up, so as long as Lamar doesn't
Speaker 3: win the super Bowl, you get to claim you were right.
Speaker 3: That's not true that I in order for me to
Speaker 3: believe Demanse that Lamar is over his playoff woes, he
Speaker 3: does not have to win the super Bowl. He doesn't
Speaker 3: even have to get to the super Bowl, because I
Speaker 3: don't think it's fair to ask anyone to beat Patrick
Speaker 3: Mahomes and the Chiefs.
Speaker 2: What he has to do.
Speaker 3: What is income been on Lamar as he's just first
Speaker 3: team All Pro and might win MVP again, is that.
Speaker 2: He does not.
Speaker 3: Have his worst game of the year in the playoffs,
Speaker 3: because all four times previously he's been in the playoffs,
Speaker 3: that's happened his worst individual game and the fewest points
Speaker 3: they scored in any game all year came in the
Speaker 3: playoff game. So this weekend, if they play a classic
Speaker 3: against Buffalo and Lamar's an A minus but Josh is
Speaker 3: an A plus and the Bills win, I give you
Speaker 3: all my word. I will not be coming on and
Speaker 3: being like see told you so, Lamar can't get it done.
Speaker 3: That's not what it is. It is not flatly super
Speaker 3: Bowl or bust. I just need him to play at
Speaker 3: regular season ish Lamar level for a whole playoff run,
Speaker 3: and if they lose, they lose. And this, listen, this
Speaker 3: game was a huge step in the right direction. And
Speaker 3: so I know people don't like my Lamar opinion. I
Speaker 3: don't think Demonte likes my Lamar opinion.
Speaker 2: But that's where that's where I stand on it.
Speaker 3: And the reason I'm gonna keep hammering the Peyton Manning
Speaker 3: drum is it's to illustrate.
Speaker 2: That you can be even if.
Speaker 3: He doesn't get over this, he'll still likely become a
Speaker 3: champion one day and be one of the greatest players ever.
Speaker 3: But maybe listen, last point I'll make on this. If
Speaker 3: he is over it and he is excellent this postseason
Speaker 3: and then there's no more yeah butts about him, then
Speaker 3: you do start discussing him alongside Manning and Rogers and.
Speaker 2: Farv and Elway.
Speaker 3: As the greatest quarterbacks we've ever seen, other than the
Speaker 3: two greatest quarterbacks we've ever seen.
Speaker 4: Like that's he had Manning.
Speaker 5: But Manning you're saying, had like questions in his career.
Speaker 5: You know, he always had those stills.
Speaker 2: And quarterback ever and man Peyton's the fourth greatest quarterback ever. No,
Speaker 2: what I to me?
Speaker 3: I so Peyton, So I understand what you're saying, which
Speaker 3: is you're saying, even if he overcomes it, why is
Speaker 3: he then just alongside Peyton? I get the question. It's
Speaker 3: just because Peyton's had a twenty year career, won five MVPs,
Speaker 3: not you know, not two or three, was First Pro,
Speaker 3: First Team All Pro seven times, went to four Super Bowls,
Speaker 3: you know one like there's the So take Manning out
Speaker 3: of it for the because I get it's a little confusing.
Speaker 3: My point is if Lamar goes on a great playoff
Speaker 3: run and they win the championship, then Lamar versus Aaron
Speaker 3: Rodgers instantly becomes a real debate. If Lamar does nothing
Speaker 3: else the rest of his career, Lamar versus Brett fav
Speaker 3: those got like that instant that becomes not a projection debate,
Speaker 3: an instant right now debate. So but even if he doesn't,
Speaker 3: he has done so much great stuff in the regular season,
Speaker 3: I think that he's gonna And maybe this is the team.
Speaker 3: By the way, the other thing there is maybe Lamar
Speaker 3: maybe now Demons because they have Derrek Kenny. The Ravens
Speaker 3: finally have a team that even if Lamar has his
Speaker 3: worst game of the year, they win anyway like that,
Speaker 3: you know, which is how what Peyton was able to do.
Speaker 2: All right, let's talk Buffalo.
Speaker 5: Yes, so after falling down seven to zero to that
Speaker 5: quick score by the Broncos, the Bills scored on the
Speaker 5: Broncos thirty one times. I'd answer, would you say this
Speaker 5: is more of the Bills being dominant or the Broncos
Speaker 5: just not being postseason ready?
Speaker 2: A little bit of both.
Speaker 3: But this is an opportunity for me to my new
Speaker 3: somewhat annual plea of the NFL did not need Dad.
Speaker 2: The seventh playoff team just didn't.
Speaker 3: This was the I understand that last year's Packers Cowboys
Speaker 3: game was awesome, but we now have had ten of
Speaker 3: these two versus seven games, and they have resulted in
Speaker 3: nine victories for the two seed and few memorable games
Speaker 3: at all. In twoenty twenty, the Bills beat a Philip
Speaker 3: Rivers led Colts team in a not that good good
Speaker 3: of a game. It was close, but not that good,
Speaker 3: and the Saints beat the Bears twenty one to nine
Speaker 3: in a gross game. In twenty twenty one, Tampa Bay
Speaker 3: with Tom Brady rolled Jalen Hurts in the Eagles first
Speaker 3: time starter in an ugly game that didn't need to
Speaker 3: be played, and Kansas City scored thirty five consecutive points
Speaker 3: on the better than a bye Pittsburgh Steelers that did
Speaker 3: not want to be there. In twenty twenty two, the
Speaker 3: seventh seed allowed a Miami team that at that point
Speaker 3: was quarterbacked by Skyler Thompson into the playoffs and the
Speaker 3: Bills beat him. And Gino in his first year with Seattle,
Speaker 3: got dog walked by the Niners forty one to twenty three.
Speaker 3: And then last year we had the one upset, which
Speaker 3: was cool, the Packers and Jordan Love. And then on
Speaker 3: the other side of the bracket you had Buffalo absolutely
Speaker 3: annihilating Mason Rudolph and the Pittsburgh Steelers. And then this
Speaker 3: year you had a Packers team that was not ready
Speaker 3: for prime time, lose to Philly in a game Philly
Speaker 3: didn't even want, and the Broncos get up seven to
Speaker 3: nothing on Buffalo and then Buffalo score thirty one straight.
Speaker 3: The previous format where the one and the two seeds
Speaker 3: gotta buy was better. Buffalo like nothing against Josh Allen,
Speaker 3: but everybody talks about these Josh Allen playoff stats. The
Speaker 3: man has built an impire on being the two seed
Speaker 3: and just absolutely crushing the the seventh seed that shouldn't
Speaker 3: be in the playoffs, and like the joh, let me.
Speaker 2: Pull it off.
Speaker 3: I mean, and and so he's never had the bye,
Speaker 3: he being Josh Allen because they've never been the one
Speaker 3: seed and the team wasn't good, so Lamar had the bye.
Speaker 2: Well it shouldn't. It's not The step padding is a
Speaker 2: little unfair because.
Speaker 4: He just gets thrown into the game.
Speaker 5: You play who you play, obviously, but it's like congratulations,
Speaker 5: you get to beat up on these guys in the postseason.
Speaker 3: And it's been it's just been he they have been
Speaker 3: the Have they been the two seed?
Speaker 2: No, the Chiefs were the two seed one of those years. Oh,
Speaker 2: when the Ravens were the.
Speaker 3: One but Josh Allen in the wildcard round now as
Speaker 3: fifteen touchdowns, two picks and a one fifteen rating, and
Speaker 3: four of those times under the old format, they would
Speaker 3: have had the bye. And so the other thing about
Speaker 3: having the about the old format, we would have had
Speaker 3: a way more exciting to me playoff race, like Denver
Speaker 3: falling apart at the end of the year and those
Speaker 3: two straight losses should have knocked him out of the playoffs.
Speaker 3: It's one of the reasons why I have so little
Speaker 3: sympathy for the Bengals. Bengals fans are like, oh, don't
Speaker 3: let us in, guys, you wore the eight seed. You
Speaker 3: finished as the eight seed. There's only sixteen teams in
Speaker 3: the conference, like there should be a pretty good team
Speaker 3: that gets left out. And the Packers at the very
Speaker 3: end of the year and Washington it to me. Instead
Speaker 3: of both of them being like, ah, this week eighteen
Speaker 3: game doesn't matter, it should have been like, oh shit,
Speaker 3: we've had an awesome season. We might miss the playoffs.
Speaker 3: And so I just like the old format better and
Speaker 3: I just think it is now it hugely benefits the
Speaker 3: Chiefs this year, and so the Chiefs being the one
Speaker 3: seed like, think about if you're Buffalo.
Speaker 2: You're Buffalo. You had.
Speaker 3: The second best record in the conference easily. You were
Speaker 3: alive for the one seed until Christmas, and your reward
Speaker 3: is what you got to play around one game and
Speaker 3: then you know, you get ready to host Baltimore in
Speaker 3: what will be an absolute war as opposed to what
Speaker 3: it could have been of Hey, Buffalo, you were excellent
Speaker 3: this year start to finish. Baltimore finished incredibly strong, but
Speaker 3: obviously had those hiccups early in the year. The punishment
Speaker 3: for that is Baltimore is coming off a game and
Speaker 3: Buffalo's fully rested getting ready for Baltimore. So I just
Speaker 3: I think Philly did not need to play this weekend
Speaker 3: and Buffalo didn't need to play this weekend. Now, my
Speaker 3: other takeaway from that game, to be honest, is I
Speaker 3: just really do think Josh Allen was the league's MVP
Speaker 3: this year. There's nothing against Lamar, but I and I
Speaker 3: know the regular season the postseason doesn't count, but that
Speaker 3: Bill's offense seemed borderline unstoppable against a great defense, and
Speaker 3: they have an awesome offensive line and James Cook's really good,
Speaker 3: but it's all predicated on Josh.
Speaker 2: Now, you can say the same thing about Lamar. I
Speaker 2: get it.
Speaker 3: But the Derrick Henry in his nineteen hundred yards was
Speaker 3: a big factor there too. But that game went the
Speaker 3: way anyone who watched football this year knew it was
Speaker 3: gonna go, which is Buffalo was going to annihilate a
Speaker 3: Broncos team that is not ready for the postseason.
Speaker 2: Just wasn't go ahead.
Speaker 5: It looks like you James Cook might not be as
Speaker 5: big of a help as Derrick Henry.
Speaker 4: But he's certainly he's actually certainly. Oh yeah. It takes
Speaker 4: a little bit of weight off the shoulders of Josh.
Speaker 3: Allen, no doubt about it. And he's an underrated player.
Speaker 3: And the Bills offensive line is superb. That's the most
Speaker 3: underrated part of their team. Uh do you have a
Speaker 3: follow up before we get to Jaden?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 5: Yeah, So Josh, Josh Allen was over there having a
Speaker 5: convo with the refs.
Speaker 4: What do you think about that?
Speaker 3: So listen, here's Josh Allen was not having a conversation
Speaker 3: with the refs. The refs were having a conversation with
Speaker 3: Josh Allen, and that is an important distinction.
Speaker 2: And so John like.
Speaker 3: The ref coming over to the sideline and you know,
Speaker 3: making sure Josh Allen was not mad at him and like,
Speaker 3: oh sorry, I missed it, We'll do better next time.
Speaker 3: To me, is kind of embarrassing and I've never seen
Speaker 3: anything like it, and I'm not gonna make the biggest
Speaker 3: deal in the world out of it, but I am
Speaker 3: going to make this point, which is.
Speaker 2: Josh Allen.
Speaker 3: Gets the treatment from the refs that people pretend Patrick
Speaker 3: Mahomes gets and it's a frustrating dynamic. Dynamic Okay, So,
Speaker 3: since since coming into the league, who has the most
Speaker 3: roughing the passer calls of anyone?
Speaker 2: By a mile?
Speaker 3: Josh Allen Mahomes is middle of the pack the whether
Speaker 3: you do it per attempt or per game. Josh Allen
Speaker 3: gets point three to two roughing the passer penalty is
Speaker 3: a game, which is the most of any quarterback, so
Speaker 3: one in every three games he gets roughing the passer penalty.
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes is at point two to three, which is
Speaker 3: less than Baker Mayfield. If you do it per one
Speaker 3: thousand attempts the or let me try to see if
Speaker 3: I can get this. Yeah, if I get this number right,
Speaker 3: see where Josh Allen is on this. It's point nine
Speaker 3: per No, that's not right. I have this stat wrong.
Speaker 3: I apologize, but oh, per one hundred attempts, per a
Speaker 3: thousand attempts, this guy doesn't make any sense at all.
Speaker 3: He's way up there compared to these other guys. Furthermore,
Speaker 3: the Chiefs lost a playoff game in over time and
Speaker 3: never got the ball to go to the super Bowl,
Speaker 3: and the general reaction after a Brady Mahomes classic where
Speaker 3: Mahomes had three separate fourth quarter comebacks and then lost
Speaker 3: and then got the ball with thirty seconds left led
Speaker 3: him to a game tying field goal, never saw the
Speaker 3: ball again. The Patriots scored a touchdown, go to the
Speaker 3: super Bowl. Everyone's reaction was, those are the rules? Shut up.
Speaker 3: The Bills lost a playoff game to the Chiefs not
Speaker 3: to go to the Super Bowl, to go to the
Speaker 3: AFC Championship game in a classic when they never got
Speaker 3: the ball and the NFL instantly changed the rules. The
Speaker 3: Chiefs last year got absolutely hosed on a game losing
Speaker 3: call on pass interference in the game we watched at
Speaker 3: Wayne's house Demanse against the Packers. Everyone's reaction was, get
Speaker 3: over it. The Bills get kind of hosed on a
Speaker 3: miss holding all in the end zone get a field
Speaker 3: goal anyway, and the ref comes over to the sideline
Speaker 3: and apologizes, I'm not a conspiracy theorist, and I don't
Speaker 3: think there's any conspiracy there. But everyone in the world
Speaker 3: knows that if a referee, the head referee was at
Speaker 3: the chief's bench put saying to Mahomes, patting his chest,
Speaker 3: saying my bad, and then tapping him on the head,
Speaker 3: it would be memed into the the atmosphere. And so
Speaker 3: it You know, sometimes the reality of a situation is
Speaker 3: not what you wish it was, but it is. And
Speaker 3: so it's just oh and it's just a little frustrating,
Speaker 3: so to speak. But whatever, I don't really care that much,
Speaker 3: and so.
Speaker 2: Is what it is. All right, we can move on.
Speaker 5: So Jade and Daniels went in there, knocked Baker Mayfield
Speaker 5: out of the playoffs. This sky is really impressive. So
Speaker 5: he obviously advances, Are you finally willing to admit that
Speaker 5: he was the better quarterback in Kleb Williams draft class?
Speaker 4: That guy you were saying it was gonna go to.
Speaker 3: The Okay, Well see that's that that's a bridge too far.
Speaker 3: He has certainly had a better rookie season. I mean
Speaker 3: that's not that's not arguable, and win offensive Rookie the
Speaker 3: Year and win a playoff game for a quarterback Big Ben, CJ. Stroud, Jade,
Speaker 3: and Daniels. That's the list. And Jayden's clutch performances have
Speaker 3: been spectacular, spectacular. So many of these wins come down
Speaker 3: to the final minute, they're trailing, they or they're tied, whatever,
Speaker 3: it is so great and he makes the plays I do.
Speaker 3: I want the record to reflect that the entirety of
Speaker 3: why I liked Drake May forget Caleb because I think
Speaker 3: Caleb is going to be a superstar, like we're gonna
Speaker 3: we will wait and see if I'm right or wrong
Speaker 3: about Caleb. But I also was not in the minority
Speaker 3: in saying Caleb is the best quarterback in this draft
Speaker 3: class where people can come after me on Jaden is.
Speaker 3: I liked Drake May more than Jaden and part of
Speaker 3: that was an age thing, But the real reason was
Speaker 3: my concern that Jaden Daniels and his frame is not
Speaker 3: going to be able to take NFL punishment, that the
Speaker 3: verdict will not be in on that for a couple years.
Speaker 3: It was never that I thought he wasn't talented. I
Speaker 3: thought he wouldn't be good, and I do think it's
Speaker 3: noteworthy for whatever it's worth that the listen, this Washington team,
Speaker 3: which now has thirteen wins. The only time all year
Speaker 3: they didn't look great was right after he got his
Speaker 3: ribs cracked and he was banged up. And so no,
Speaker 3: this is an all time rookie season by him. And
Speaker 3: I'll say something else that's positive for Commanders fans. He
Speaker 3: becomes the fourth rookie quarterback ever to win a road
Speaker 3: playoff game. Now, the other guys on the list, two
Speaker 3: of them were not great quarterbacks. But what's positive about
Speaker 3: it is what they did next. Mark Sanchez did it,
Speaker 3: went on the road and won a playoff game, and
Speaker 3: then also went on the road the next round and
Speaker 3: won a playoff game and showed up in the AFC
Speaker 3: Championship game. Joe Flacco did it, went on the road
Speaker 3: and won a playoff game, and then also the next
Speaker 3: round went on the road and won a playoff game
Speaker 3: and showed up in the AFC Championship game. Russell Wilson
Speaker 3: did it, and then the next round executed a twenty
Speaker 3: plus point comeback to take a one point lead with
Speaker 3: thirty seconds left to go to the NFC Championship game.
Speaker 3: And then Matt Ryan and the Falcons gotten field goal
Speaker 3: range kicked a game winning field goal and they went to.
Speaker 2: The NFC Championship game.
Speaker 3: So the point I'm meaning is this rookie quarterbacks that
Speaker 3: win road playoff game. Small sample, but two of the
Speaker 3: three then pulled off another upset the next round, and
Speaker 3: the one that didn't had a lead with five seconds
Speaker 3: left and lost on a field goal at the gun.
Speaker 3: So this is spectacular by Jaden. The flip side of
Speaker 3: that game is man Tampa's. This is the NFL is
Speaker 3: great rookies in the playoffs.
Speaker 2: You're always a little nervous.
Speaker 3: And Tampa has the lead and has the ball and
Speaker 3: either their rookie center snaps it late or their rookie
Speaker 3: wide receiver started his motion early and the timing handoff
Speaker 3: on that jet sweep is not there and they fumble,
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden they're trailing. A few minutes later,
Speaker 3: they have third inches and the rookie center definitively snaps
Speaker 3: it too early. The team's not ready, They have to
Speaker 3: settle for a field goal and they lose. The Commander's
Speaker 3: rookie quarterback was unbelievable. The Bucks rookie center had a
Speaker 3: couple tough moments, and it might have cost him the
Speaker 3: game because I thought Tampa was gonna go score a
Speaker 3: touchdown there. Now, maybe Demon's Jayden then still drives him down,
Speaker 3: score touchdown, they win. But I thought Baker, Baker was
Speaker 3: fifteen of eighteen. Yeah, Tampa, only Baker played well. They
Speaker 3: never had the ball. Tampa ran forty four offensive plays.
Speaker 3: They just never had the ball. And so I listen,
Speaker 3: I thought Baker, you know, handled himself quite well. Jaden's
Speaker 3: team and Jayden, you know, Jaden played better and the
Speaker 3: Commanders played better, and shout out to them. One guy
Speaker 3: who did not handle himself well was Justin Herbert. We'll
Speaker 3: discuss that next quick break. Right back, what's right? All right,
Speaker 3: welcome back in. We'll right with Nick Wright, episode two
Speaker 3: ninety two. All right, demonsie, let's talk some Justin Herbert.
Speaker 2: By the way, that was a long a.
Speaker 3: Block forty five minutes or so. Let's talk some Justin
Speaker 3: Herbert before we get to our game.
Speaker 5: So, yeah, Justin Herbert had a rough game against the Texans.
Speaker 5: He's now responsible for two of the biggest playoff note
Speaker 5: down in a recent memory, but the Internet is still
Speaker 5: defending him. Why has the discourse surrounding Justin Herbert always
Speaker 5: been so weird and confusing?
Speaker 3: I mean, it's not confusing to me at all. He's
Speaker 3: super talented guy who's underachieved. I so I tweeted about
Speaker 3: an article that I read right after the game by
Speaker 3: Connor Orr, who I think does a really good job.
Speaker 3: And I was probably a little harsh in my tweet,
Speaker 3: and I you know, I feel badly about that, but
Speaker 3: it just felt to me like this level of excuse
Speaker 3: making for one of the highest paid, most highly regarded
Speaker 3: players in the league's ridiculous. So the headline from Connor's
Speaker 3: article was, this wasn't a Justin Herbert meltdown. This was
Speaker 3: a quarterback meeting the hard sealing limitations of his roster.
Speaker 3: And everyone understands that the Charger's not a perfect team.
Speaker 3: They only have one receiver really that you trust, the
Speaker 3: inside it The interior of their offensive line isn't great.
Speaker 3: But guess what, man, once you're out of the rookie
Speaker 3: salary scale, never gonna have a perfect roster. Sorry, just not.
Speaker 3: And if you do, it'll be for a very very
Speaker 3: brief period of time, and you'd be like, well, they
Speaker 3: need to get better receivers and interior offensive linement. Okay,
Speaker 3: well that's gonna come at a cost. Your left tackle
Speaker 3: is one of the best in football. Your right tackle
Speaker 3: you took in the top ten. You've tried to address
Speaker 3: the receiver. Drafted Quentin Johnson the first round miss on
Speaker 3: that pick. I guess drafted lad McConkey very very beginning
Speaker 3: of round two. But you also have the number one
Speaker 3: defense in football and a universally regarded great head coach.
Speaker 3: So you're not in disastrous shape. And my frustration about
Speaker 3: the Herbert stuff right after this game was justin Herbert
Speaker 3: had one one argument that he had a great season
Speaker 3: only through three picks. The rest of his numbers were
Speaker 3: not that good. The advanced numbers or the regular numbers
Speaker 3: were not that good. But what he did was the
Speaker 3: argument was excellent coach, great defense, don't turn the ball over,
Speaker 3: we'll win games.
Speaker 2: Got it awesome?
Speaker 3: Fine, but then you can't literally have more picks in
Speaker 3: the one playoff game than you had all season.
Speaker 2: That's obvious.
Speaker 3: And I understand the third interception was not on him,
Speaker 3: but the first two interceptions are what lost them the
Speaker 3: game because the Texans were playing terribly. The Texans were
Speaker 3: not ready. The Texans looked like they looked leading into
Speaker 3: the playoffs, like the worst team in the tournament. Texans
Speaker 3: opening drive, first play, fumble, Texans second drive, three and out,
Speaker 3: Texans next drive, five and out. At that point, you
Speaker 3: need to be up more than six nothing, but they weren't,
Speaker 3: so be it. Texans next drive interception just a horrific
Speaker 3: throw by CJ.
Speaker 2: Stroud.
Speaker 3: In that moment, the Texans have run one three. Let
Speaker 3: me get sorry, I want to get this exactly right.
Speaker 3: In that moment, the Texans have run twelve plays, they
Speaker 3: have turned the ball over twice, and they have forty
Speaker 3: yards of offense. Okay, that's who they were playing. All
Speaker 3: you need to do is not screw it up. And
Speaker 3: Herbert throws across his body one hash to the other
Speaker 3: to unreliable and Johnson in double coverage and he gets picked.
Speaker 3: That is just an unfathomably bad mistake. Unbelievably, the Texans
Speaker 3: make nothing of it, go four and out, and then
Speaker 3: the Chargers once again do nothing. So you've had six
Speaker 3: opportunities to blow this game open. You're up six to nothing.
Speaker 3: The Texans then have that crazy third and sixteen play
Speaker 3: leads to a touchdown, and all of a sudden you're trailing.
Speaker 3: You get the ball back demonse with a minute left
Speaker 3: on your own thirty down seven to six, mileven verse half,
Speaker 3: and not only do you not get points the Texans do.
Speaker 2: You got the ball a.
Speaker 3: Minute left on your own thirty down seven to six.
Speaker 3: You went to halftime down ten to six. Should have
Speaker 3: gone to halftime up nine to seven. But again, the
Speaker 3: game's not over. The Texans on the opening drive of
Speaker 3: the second half fumble, you get the ball down four
Speaker 3: and on fourth and two throw short of the sticks.
Speaker 3: But even after that, the game's not over. The Texans
Speaker 3: only get a field goal. You then immediately go three
Speaker 3: and out, but after that the game's not over. The
Speaker 3: Texans go three and out. You have the ball down seven.
Speaker 3: The Texans are playing an F game, and somehow you're
Speaker 3: only down seven because you're playing an F minus game.
Speaker 2: And you throw a pick.
Speaker 3: Six, So I don't give a about the third pick
Speaker 3: not being his fault. That it was a playoff game,
Speaker 3: ripe for the taking, and you had your worst game
Speaker 3: of the year and the last time you were in
Speaker 3: the playoffs, you were up twenty seven to nothing and
Speaker 3: didn't make a single play the rest of the game.
Speaker 2: And the other time.
Speaker 3: You were in a playoff like Atmosphere Week eighteen, win
Speaker 3: or tie and you're in what did you do in
Speaker 3: that spot? You didn't do anything until your team was
Speaker 3: found itself trailing twenty nine to fourteen in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 3: He had a furious rally and found a way to
Speaker 3: lose to Derek Carr. And so, I, I'm just half
Speaker 3: decade into your career. It's not about your arm talent anymore.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 3: And here's here's the too long didn't read my version
Speaker 3: of my take on Herbert. If Justin Herbert had Baker
Speaker 3: Mayfield's intangibles, we would have a real discussion about who
Speaker 3: the best quarterback.
Speaker 2: In football is him or Mahomes.
Speaker 3: Justin Herbert's physical stature, and talent and how pretty throws
Speaker 3: the football, all of it. If you add to it
Speaker 3: that extra stuff Baker has, you have one of the
Speaker 3: greatest players ever. And the flip side to that coin
Speaker 3: is this, If Baker Mayfield, at his size and talent level,
Speaker 3: had Justin Herbert's intangibles, he wouldn't have played college football,
Speaker 3: and so, like I the book is not written.
Speaker 2: But five years were a few chapters in.
Speaker 3: And forty one and forty in your career and own
Speaker 3: three with three bad games in your two playoff games
Speaker 3: and one playoff adjacent game.
Speaker 2: So that's that's what it is.
Speaker 5: You said that Lamar might be a chronic playoff choker
Speaker 5: and but he'll still eventually get a Super Bowl win.
Speaker 5: Would you put Herbert in that same category or.
Speaker 3: Herbert doesn't deserve to be listen, Lamar is now twice
Speaker 3: played well in the playoffs. Lamar is good enough in
Speaker 3: the regular season. He's always in the playoffs when he's healthy. Like, no,
Speaker 3: Herbert's in a totally different tier. Herbert's the super talented.
Speaker 3: But ah, like no, So that's uh, that would be
Speaker 3: disrespectful to Lamar to say that that. I know, I mean,
Speaker 3: he's very talented, but I I at some point, if
Speaker 3: you've got a kid and you're still talking about what
Speaker 3: amazing potential they have and they're thirty two years old,
Speaker 3: it's like, well, I mean you might not you know,
Speaker 3: that's nice, but you got you gotta put some wins
Speaker 3: on the board. If you're an NFL quarterback, and you've
Speaker 3: played five years and you're a five hundred quarterback, and
Speaker 3: you've only made the playoffs twice, and you've had a
Speaker 3: historic collapse in one of the games against an AFC
Speaker 3: South team no one believed in and threw more picks
Speaker 3: in one game than you did in the entire season,
Speaker 3: but together in the other one against an AFC South
Speaker 3: team no one believed in, when you were road favorites
Speaker 3: both times. I mean, it's a tough conversation, just is
Speaker 3: what it is. All right, let's go to the game. Oh,
Speaker 3: go ahead, Demonta.
Speaker 5: Sorry, which AFC team do you think has the best
Speaker 5: chance at the thrown in the chiefs?
Speaker 2: Oh? The AFC West team crown.
Speaker 3: None of them?
Speaker 5: I mean, it would have been the Chargers until this weekend,
Speaker 5: wouldn't they.
Speaker 3: Guys, it's no Patrick Mahomes is gonna do what Tom
Speaker 3: Brady did, which is every year he's healthy, he's.
Speaker 2: Gonna win the division.
Speaker 3: Brady didn't win the division year, you know, with second
Speaker 3: year as a starter, but every other year he was healthy,
Speaker 3: they won the division. The answer is none of them,
Speaker 3: None of them. All right, let's play a game real
Speaker 3: quick before we move on.
Speaker 4: Yes, we're playing right a wrong today.
Speaker 5: First off, your Eagles beat down on the Packers and
Speaker 5: are moving on to the divisional round. But once again
Speaker 5: there seems to be frustration from A. J. Brown and
Speaker 5: Jalen Hurts didn't do too much in the game, right
Speaker 5: or wrong. The Eagles passing game struggles to prevent them
Speaker 5: from reaching the super Bowl.
Speaker 2: I'd be worried about it.
Speaker 5: There's well when they have those types of problems, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: I I think you might be right. And listen. I
Speaker 2: don't want.
Speaker 3: To tune in to First I hate to do this,
Speaker 3: but tune into First Things First today to see how
Speaker 3: I feel about Eagles rams. But that's just this round
Speaker 3: as far as winning the super Bowl. Like, right, listen,
Speaker 3: right now this moment, Jalen Hurts is the weak link.
Speaker 4: It just is. He just is.
Speaker 2: On that roster. Jalen Hurts is the weak link.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know what else we're gonna point to.
Speaker 3: AJ Brown is a huge pain in the ass, but
Speaker 3: he's awesome. Devontae Smith is really good. Saquan's unbelievable. The
Speaker 3: offensive line is great. The defense has been a lead
Speaker 3: all year. I don't know what it is. I don't
Speaker 3: know they're they're they're jackass fans screaming at ladies in
Speaker 3: the stands or or or the quarterback. I think right
Speaker 3: now it's the quarterback, all right.
Speaker 5: Next, your guy, Baker capped off his best season ever
Speaker 5: with an impressive impressive showing the loss versus Washington, where
Speaker 5: he also had the critical mistake, critical mistake that changed
Speaker 5: the game. Right or wrong Baker will play in a
Speaker 5: super Bowl?
Speaker 3: I mean you probably have to say wrong. I don't
Speaker 3: think it's off the board. But if you offered me
Speaker 3: an even money bet Baker Mayfield will or won't ever
Speaker 3: play in a super Bowl. Probably smart money's on won't.
Speaker 3: I like Baker a lot, but like that's super Bowl's
Speaker 3: hard man like the now he's Fortunately he's in the
Speaker 3: NFC where you know, you don't have to deal with
Speaker 3: Mahomes making all of them and you know, and then
Speaker 3: potentially also have to deal with Alan and Lamar.
Speaker 2: But probably wrong, all right?
Speaker 5: Next, my guy, Jordan Love had a rough season versus
Speaker 5: the top dogs of the NFC. I went oh and
Speaker 5: six versus versus Detroit, Minnesota and Philly.
Speaker 2: Right or wrong?
Speaker 4: The Packers over paide Jordan Love. That's what it was.
Speaker 3: No, I'm not ready to say that, but I mean
Speaker 3: the Packers weren't ready to.
Speaker 2: Play with the big boys this year. Owen SI, like
Speaker 2: Owen six is crazy.
Speaker 5: I mean just kind of started at least started off behind.
Speaker 5: It's just like you just kept trying to play catch up.
Speaker 5: And like the injuries throughout the season, I feel like
Speaker 5: they never had it had a complete team.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 4: Obviously you're never going to have a complete team.
Speaker 3: But no, but the quarterback got hurt in week one,
Speaker 3: that you know what I mean? Like, No, I think
Speaker 3: that's I think that's a fair point.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 3: I don't want to talk Tom Leiner McCarthy here. The
Speaker 3: show's gone too long already, and I want to be
Speaker 3: able to get some listener questions. We may be talking
Speaker 3: more coach stuff later. Take quick break, answer some listener questions. Next,
Speaker 3: What's right?
Speaker 2: What's right with Nick Wright? Episode to ninety two, Demonse,
Speaker 2: Let's get to a few listener questions.
Speaker 5: Uh, Nick, with the twelve college football playoffs and the
Speaker 5: and the decline in the NBA, do you think the
Speaker 5: college football will be the defensive number two sport and
Speaker 5: the country. Given the definitive the definitive number two sport
Speaker 5: in the country given the public way more way more
Speaker 5: exposure to young talent.
Speaker 3: For the NFL, well, listen, I think ratings wise, college
Speaker 3: football's probably already ahead of the NBA here is I
Speaker 3: think oddly the I mean, football is just more popular
Speaker 3: in its country than basketball.
Speaker 2: Oddly.
Speaker 3: What hurts college football on shows like mine is that
Speaker 3: they play on Saturdays. In the NFL plays on Sundays,
Speaker 3: so Mondays. We're talking in NFL. So like people watch
Speaker 3: the games, but it doesn't generate as much discussion as
Speaker 3: you know on unless shows are directly dedicated to college football.
Speaker 5: All right, next, Grayson, am I the only one in
Speaker 5: America who can remember who remembers the Ravens Bills game
Speaker 5: already happened. A lot of people think this will be
Speaker 5: the close the Ravens. Why will people think this will
Speaker 5: be the close The Ravens won by twenty five. Home
Speaker 5: field is not worth twenty five.
Speaker 2: Well, listen, it's because that game was three months ago.
Speaker 3: That's why I mean. And there's plenty of instances of
Speaker 3: a team getting beat by a team in the regular
Speaker 3: season and beat him in the playoffs.
Speaker 2: See the Chiefs Bills.
Speaker 3: Every year in the playoffs, or the Chiefs Bengals in
Speaker 3: the playoffs a couple of years ago like that.
Speaker 4: So I.
Speaker 3: I just I don't think that is proper analysis, so
Speaker 3: to speak. I think a Week four game is it
Speaker 3: has some bearing, But I don't think we're gonna see
Speaker 3: a thirty five to ten beat down in the other
Speaker 3: direction in this game.
Speaker 2: All right, Next.
Speaker 5: Brandon, question for Nick is Stafford's best NBA comp Jimmy Butler?
Speaker 5: I mean, he's good in the regular season, but flips
Speaker 5: the switch to elite level come playoff time.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's an interesting one. I Stafford's had some
Speaker 3: great regular what's odd is in Detroit, he had some
Speaker 3: great regular season, but they rarely made the playoffs. But
Speaker 3: when they did make the playoffs, he wasn't great. He
Speaker 3: was good, but not great, except for I think he
Speaker 3: had one terrible playoff game in Detroit.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: I don't know that there is an NBA comp that
Speaker 3: comes to mind. He's just he and McVeigh have been
Speaker 3: unreal together in the playoffs.
Speaker 2: All right. Last one, CJD.
Speaker 5: If the Bears hire a guy like David Shaw or
Speaker 5: Matt Campbell, should Caleb ask out?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 3: Listen, Caleb's not gonna ask out, but I will say this,
Speaker 3: I would be nonplused if they hired Matt Campbell because
Speaker 3: I don't know who Matt Campbell is.
Speaker 2: So like I gotta on Google. Oh the Iowa State coach.
Speaker 3: Okay, no, yeah, I mean I would not like them
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Speaker 3: like a college coach, I would not be thrilled if
Speaker 3: that's the direction the Bills go. All right, best weekend
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