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<v Speaker 2>Welcome Man, What'll Driving the Great?

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<v Speaker 3>Episode two ninety two on a Tuesday, leading into what

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<v Speaker 3>I think is the single best sports weekend of the year.

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<v Speaker 3>NFL Divisional Round weekend is my a favorite forty eight

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<v Speaker 3>hours in sports all year, four games, almost almost always

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<v Speaker 3>at least six of the best eight teams, very often

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<v Speaker 3>seven of the best eight teams. And this year we

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<v Speaker 3>might have gone well, no, we didn't go eight for eight,

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<v Speaker 3>but I think we did as well as we could

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<v Speaker 3>have done, as far as going four for four in

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<v Speaker 3>each conference where we certainly have the three best in

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<v Speaker 3>each conference. Still remaining and then depending on what you

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<v Speaker 3>think of the Texans versus the field and the Commanders

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<v Speaker 3>versus the field.

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<v Speaker 2>But we should have two.

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<v Speaker 3>Unbelievable games in Bill's Ravens and in Rams Eagles, and

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<v Speaker 3>two very interesting games games in Chiefs Texans and in

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<v Speaker 3>Lions Commanders. So I can't wait for that. However, Thursday's

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<v Speaker 3>show will be when we preview those games. Today's show

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<v Speaker 3>will be more about recapping the six games we saw

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<v Speaker 3>this weekend, so quickly what missed the cut that is

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<v Speaker 3>not in today's show. We are not discussing the National

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<v Speaker 3>Championship game in today's show. We will do a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit about on that on Thursday. Leangelo Ball signing with

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<v Speaker 3>def JAM this is something we will not be discussing that.

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<v Speaker 3>I simply do not have as much interest in this

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<v Speaker 3>story as some of my colleagues and AJ Brown reading

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<v Speaker 3>on the sideline that actually is going to be in

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<v Speaker 3>the show at some point when we talk Eagles, partially

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<v Speaker 3>because I want to talk Eagles, but also partially because

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<v Speaker 3>nothing bothers me more than someone acting like I'm dumb.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd rather you call me a son of a whatever

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<v Speaker 3>then just act like I'm an idiot and aj Brown

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<v Speaker 3>being like, why is everyone talking to me? What's the

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<v Speaker 3>problem here? While holding a giant sign above his head

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<v Speaker 3>that says talk to me. I want to be the

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<v Speaker 3>center of attention. Is bothersome? We will discuss that later

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<v Speaker 3>and from the look on my son's face seems like

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<v Speaker 3>maybe he disagrees with me, so maybe that will have

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<v Speaker 3>a good discussion on that, or maybe you're with me

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<v Speaker 3>on it. But let's start. De Mon's good to see

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<v Speaker 3>you pal with last night's game. Well, I'll let you

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<v Speaker 3>take it away.

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<v Speaker 4>Go ahead.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, So you've been praising the Rams all year and

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<v Speaker 5>they took care of business last night in dominant fashion.

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<v Speaker 5>Would you attribute that to the Rams or is that

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<v Speaker 5>more of a Sam Donald meltdown type of thing.

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<v Speaker 3>So, sadly, we got to start with Donald and this

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<v Speaker 3>is and I set it on last Thursday Show two

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<v Speaker 3>thursdays ago, so twelve days ago. I said, this is

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<v Speaker 3>one of the things that is so intoxicating to me

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<v Speaker 3>about sports, particularly professional football, but also one of the

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<v Speaker 3>cruelest things about him, which is if we go back

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<v Speaker 3>twelve days. So when we were sitting here on January second,

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<v Speaker 3>Sam Darnold had in front of him man.

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<v Speaker 2>If I play great.

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<v Speaker 3>On Sunday night, I'm a made man. We get the

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<v Speaker 3>one seed, we get the bye, I will end up

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<v Speaker 3>somewhere on MVP.

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<v Speaker 2>Ballots, fourth or fifth.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to get more than, well more than one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred million dollars guaranteed this summer, and we'll see what

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<v Speaker 3>happens in the playoffs. That's where Sam Darnold was on

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<v Speaker 3>January second, Play great in one game, one more game.

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<v Speaker 2>After playing some of the best football of his life.

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<v Speaker 3>Can I do it one more time on the road

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<v Speaker 3>in Detroit, get the one seed locked? And then on

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<v Speaker 3>the other side was whether he was thinking it or not.

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<v Speaker 3>But if I play terribly, I then a week later

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<v Speaker 3>will go into a game where if I'm bad again,

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<v Speaker 3>it's same old Sam, And forget one hundred million, forget

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<v Speaker 3>ninety million. I might be staring at, might be staring

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<v Speaker 3>at another year to year situation, and everyone's gonna say

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<v Speaker 3>the clock struck midnight, it's how thin the margins are.

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<v Speaker 3>Play great, one more game, change myself, my legacy, how

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<v Speaker 3>I'm thought of, and my family's life forever. Played terribly

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<v Speaker 3>in that game, and then the next game, my whole

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<v Speaker 3>career is on a knife's edge, and sadly for Sam,

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<v Speaker 3>he went over to and he had his two worst

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<v Speaker 3>games of the year in two stand alone national television

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<v Speaker 3>Turiko and Collinsworth and then Aikman and Buck thirty plus

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<v Speaker 3>million people watching, and they watched him.

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<v Speaker 2>Seeing ghosts again.

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<v Speaker 3>And now, can any team in the league that actually

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<v Speaker 3>thinks they are contenders say to their fan base this offseason, guys,

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<v Speaker 3>here's what's gonna put us over the top, Sam Darnold

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<v Speaker 3>And they answer that question sadly's probably no. And the Vikings,

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<v Speaker 3>who drafted a quarterback in the first round last year

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<v Speaker 3>and wanted to give him the reins if he's healthy,

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<v Speaker 3>are they just gonna hand the job to Sam Darnald

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<v Speaker 3>even if they bring him back. The answer to that

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<v Speaker 3>is no. And Aikman understandably kind of lit him on

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<v Speaker 3>fire last night, basically said, fourteen wins, schmorteen wins. You

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<v Speaker 3>played when it mattered most, and now people aren't gonna

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<v Speaker 3>believe in you.

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<v Speaker 2>And they were really truly.

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<v Speaker 3>Awful performances last night, Demons. Last night, he was worse

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<v Speaker 3>than the stats suggest Like the stats, Okay, seventy eight rating,

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<v Speaker 3>that's not good, but it's not you know, horrifying one touchdown,

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<v Speaker 3>one pick, two hundred and forty five yards. But if

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<v Speaker 3>you watched that game, he was shook from the opening moment.

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<v Speaker 5>Every drive that just kind of ruined, ruined what they

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<v Speaker 5>had going on, couldn't get the ball out.

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<v Speaker 3>And they were awful sacks, panicking early, trying to spin

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<v Speaker 3>out of pressure and then just getting cooked. And listen,

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't think Kevin O'Connell covered himself in glory last night.

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<v Speaker 3>And Kevin O'Connell, who you know will be the latest

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<v Speaker 3>coach to win Coach of the Year instead of Andy Reid.

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<v Speaker 3>That's cool, Like you know he's now Kevin O'Connell now

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<v Speaker 3>is to deal with the fact that he's had a

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<v Speaker 3>thirteen win team playoff home playoff game and lost to

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<v Speaker 3>Daniel Jones and a fourteen win team be a favorite

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<v Speaker 3>on it in a neutral site playoff game, not a

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<v Speaker 3>road playoff game anymore, neutral site and they scored nine points.

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<v Speaker 3>But a Vikings offense that from before Thanksgiving demons. Here's

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<v Speaker 3>what the Vikings scored in each game, thirty twenty three,

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<v Speaker 3>forty two, thirty twenty seven, twenty seven and then nine

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<v Speaker 3>and nine. Everybody's got to wear it. But Kevin O'Connor.

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<v Speaker 3>O'Connell's gonna be fine. The Vikings organization will regroup. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know what it means for Sam Darnold, and it

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<v Speaker 3>is a cruel reality. And this is why I get

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<v Speaker 3>so frustrated when for other quarterbacks that come up short

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<v Speaker 3>in a big spot, folks will lay on small sample

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<v Speaker 3>size guys. It's a small sample sized sport. Sam Donald

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<v Speaker 3>had around fifteen possessions, fifteen possessions that we're going to

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<v Speaker 3>change entirely. The trajectory of his entire career came up

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<v Speaker 3>short in them, and now he's just back to being

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<v Speaker 3>Sam Donald.

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<v Speaker 5>And do you think that there's anything significant that happened

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<v Speaker 5>in the last couple of weeks that you know, made

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<v Speaker 5>them flame out like that, or would you say that

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<v Speaker 5>they were frauds the entire time?

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<v Speaker 2>No, well, no, it's not that they were frauds the

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<v Speaker 2>entire time.

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<v Speaker 4>To take a little bit of a little bit of

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<v Speaker 4>the heat too.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but it's but they lost Christian darrisaw months maybe

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<v Speaker 3>the best left tackle in football months ago and they

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<v Speaker 3>were fine.

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<v Speaker 2>They know what I what I think is and people

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<v Speaker 2>w say it's in the again.

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<v Speaker 3>The offensive line wasn't great yesterday, and the Lions are

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<v Speaker 3>a better team, and you guys know, and we'll talk

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<v Speaker 3>more about them in a moment. How in what high

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<v Speaker 3>regard I think of the Rams. There is no shame

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<v Speaker 3>in losing to the Lions in the Rams. The shame

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<v Speaker 3>is not being competitive for ten minutes in either game.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the problem. But it's not that they were frauds

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<v Speaker 3>the whole time demands.

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<v Speaker 2>It's that.

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<v Speaker 3>The Vikings being this team was built on a foundation

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<v Speaker 3>of we're getting excellent quarterback play guys, thirty five touchdowns,

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<v Speaker 3>twelve picks. He's stepping up in the pocket against Seattle

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<v Speaker 3>game on the line, delivering a dime to Justin Jefferson

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<v Speaker 3>in double coverage and the moment that went away, it

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't sustainable. So no, I don't think they're frauds anymore

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<v Speaker 3>than let's say the Bills this weekend get rocked because

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<v Speaker 3>Josh Allen has his worst.

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<v Speaker 2>Game of the year.

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<v Speaker 3>That won't mean they were frauds. It would mean they

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<v Speaker 3>were a team. And this is you know, the Bills

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<v Speaker 3>are not the Vikings. If Iking to have more talent

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<v Speaker 3>across the roster, and the Bills don't have justin Jefferson.

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<v Speaker 3>But you don't see what I'm saying. They are a

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<v Speaker 3>team that was being lifted by elite quarterback play, and

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<v Speaker 3>that Darnald gave them elite play this year. I was

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<v Speaker 3>the guy saying, he beats the Lions, you have to

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<v Speaker 3>include him on your MVP ballot, but I don't. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>also the guy who does not find it in conflict

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<v Speaker 3>to believe that and also believe but if you lose

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<v Speaker 3>the Lions and plays poorly, the guys careers on the line.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what the that's what football is. It's a small

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<v Speaker 3>sample sized sport and Akman gets it. And I gotta

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<v Speaker 3>say I love Akman. I understand he left Fox, he

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<v Speaker 3>does ESPN now I don't care to me. He's still

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<v Speaker 3>always a Fox guy. He is such a made man.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, I got three Super Bowl rings. I'm still

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<v Speaker 3>one of the most famous people in the world associated

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<v Speaker 3>with the NFL. I'm almost a universally popular broadcaster. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>calling some of the biggest games and I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 3>couch anything. I'm gonna tell you how I feel. And

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<v Speaker 3>he just I mean Aikman.

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<v Speaker 2>And Buck who I don't know Troy at all. But

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<v Speaker 2>I know Joe.

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<v Speaker 3>It would be a stretch to say we're friends, but

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<v Speaker 3>we've you know, I've spent some time with him.

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<v Speaker 2>That sounded bad.

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<v Speaker 3>Like my point is we don't know each other well

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<v Speaker 3>enough to win be like my friend Joe Buck. But

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<v Speaker 3>all the time I've seen with him has been great.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>And I love I've always love them as a crew.

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<v Speaker 3>But they they are in the tenured college professor part

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<v Speaker 3>of their careers where it's just like we're gonna.

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<v Speaker 2>Call it as we see it. And I think that.

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<v Speaker 3>Cook Cooking the refs, that poor guy Russell or they're

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<v Speaker 3>they're ref analyst that Troy always kind of pokes fun at.

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<v Speaker 2>Russell York or York, I'm not sure his name.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>And then also Cooking, Well, no I'm saying that's correct,

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<v Speaker 3>but I'm saying they're the guy who works with them

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<v Speaker 3>is like the ref analyst they fun at sometimes. And

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<v Speaker 3>I mean them being like, I don't know if the

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<v Speaker 3>Vikings know they're down eighteen points like it was it

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<v Speaker 3>was great now to the Rams.

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<v Speaker 2>Demons.

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<v Speaker 3>This is why all year long, whenever we talked about

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<v Speaker 3>teams that could win the Super Bowl, well no, that

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<v Speaker 3>was really just the Chiefs teams that could make the

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<v Speaker 3>Super Bowl. I shoehorned the Rams in that discussion. So

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<v Speaker 3>they've now since starting one in four are ten and three.

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<v Speaker 3>You now also look at Matt Stafford since getting to

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<v Speaker 3>Los Angeles, demanse, here are his playoff numbers, Okay, because

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<v Speaker 3>they are, I promise better than you'd imagine. Six games,

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<v Speaker 3>five wins, one loss, and that one loss was by

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<v Speaker 3>a point. Thirteen touchdowns, three picks, two hundred and ninety

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<v Speaker 3>five yards passing a game, one twelve rating, seventy percent completions,

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<v Speaker 3>eight point seven yards per attempt. Every single postseason, he's

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<v Speaker 3>been awesome. And he with the Rams, and that is

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<v Speaker 3>a dangerous, dangerous football team that is going to Philadelphia

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<v Speaker 3>next weekend. A dangerous team. Go ahead, if you have

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<v Speaker 3>another follow up there before we move on.

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<v Speaker 5>H Yeah, So the Rams they opened up at six

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<v Speaker 5>and a half point dogs against Philly, and you're obviously

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<v Speaker 5>hyping them up heavily right now.

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<v Speaker 4>Is there something Vegas is onto? What are they thinking that?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, listen, I get it. Philly's home. Philly was

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<v Speaker 3>a fourteen win team. The Rams were a ten win team.

0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:54.840
<v Speaker 3>Philly seems to have the more complete roster, Rams got

0:16:54.880 --> 0:16:57.800
<v Speaker 3>the better quarterback, Rams got the better coach, and the

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<v Speaker 3>Rams defense has been elite for a month. That's the

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<v Speaker 3>other part of it. That it's not just that you're

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<v Speaker 3>getting playoff stafford and that the team was rested and fresh.

0:17:13.440 --> 0:17:19.439
<v Speaker 3>It's also that the Rams the final three weeks that

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<v Speaker 3>they played their guys Demanse, they allowed six points, nine points,

0:17:26.880 --> 0:17:31.879
<v Speaker 3>nine points, and now just allowed nine points again. So

0:17:31.920 --> 0:17:35.199
<v Speaker 3>in the last four games since the Rams beat the

0:17:35.200 --> 0:17:39.080
<v Speaker 3>Bills forty four to forty two, they've allowed thirty three

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<v Speaker 3>points in four games.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, So.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, I certainly like the Rams plus the points.

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<v Speaker 2>What'd you say?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>No, I think Philly is gonna have a lot of trouble,

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<v Speaker 5>especially considering what they just did in their past playoff performance.

0:17:59.400 --> 0:18:01.879
<v Speaker 5>I don't think, you know, a real team turn the

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<v Speaker 5>ball over that many times. I think they're gonna capitalize

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<v Speaker 5>on it.

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<v Speaker 2>And so, and let me say something else.

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<v Speaker 3>If Conference Championship weekend the AFC's taken care of, it's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be Mahomes versus one of the guys. Right, Either

0:18:21.720 --> 0:18:27.960
<v Speaker 3>Mahomes Allen is unbelievable, Mahomes Lamar is unbelievable, Like either way,

0:18:28.000 --> 0:18:34.640
<v Speaker 3>that's fifty million people captivated with the King of the Mountain,

0:18:35.480 --> 0:18:38.720
<v Speaker 3>with either the MVP or runner up MVP, no matter

0:18:38.760 --> 0:18:42.280
<v Speaker 3>who it is, trying to knock him off after never

0:18:42.359 --> 0:18:44.879
<v Speaker 3>beating him in the playoffs, either one of these guys.

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<v Speaker 3>If in the NFC, it's the Lions trying to go

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<v Speaker 3>to their first Super Bowl and franchise history and coming

0:18:55.040 --> 0:19:05.040
<v Speaker 3>into town, is there guy Matt Stafford and it's the

0:19:05.440 --> 0:19:11.160
<v Speaker 3>Stafford golf trade. It's all of it. McVeigh, Dan Campbell,

0:19:11.800 --> 0:19:19.280
<v Speaker 3>Holy molly, Like what an what unbelievable drama that would be?

0:19:19.400 --> 0:19:24.000
<v Speaker 3>Now again, the Eagles commanders or I guess Texans could

0:19:24.040 --> 0:19:27.680
<v Speaker 3>throw a wrench in that Ravens Bills, doesn't really matter

0:19:27.760 --> 0:19:31.679
<v Speaker 3>either way. The story's amazing. But yeah, man, that's I

0:19:31.720 --> 0:19:34.360
<v Speaker 3>think that's what we're staring at all. Right, let's move

0:19:34.400 --> 0:19:36.439
<v Speaker 3>on to some AFC games.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, So Baltimore destroyed Pittsburgh from start to finish. Lamar

0:19:41.440 --> 0:19:43.639
<v Speaker 5>Jackson was making the big place, he was making the

0:19:43.640 --> 0:19:47.160
<v Speaker 5>small place. I think that he's starting to kill that narrative.

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<v Speaker 5>Do you need to see more from him?

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<v Speaker 4>More? Do you need to see from him?

0:19:52.359 --> 0:19:52.520
<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 3>So, I in order for me to be like Yep,

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<v Speaker 3>you don't have to worry about him in the playoffs anymore.

0:19:58.320 --> 0:19:59.920
<v Speaker 2>I certainly do need to see more.

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<v Speaker 3>This was a huge step in the right direction, and

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<v Speaker 3>I won't minimize it because here is the thing that

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<v Speaker 3>I thought was unique about this game, and this people

0:20:11.240 --> 0:20:15.359
<v Speaker 3>got Whenever people talk about the Houston game last year

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<v Speaker 3>and I point out the fact that he was not

0:20:19.400 --> 0:20:22.040
<v Speaker 3>very good in the first half of that game, people

0:20:22.080 --> 0:20:25.000
<v Speaker 3>think I'm being unfair because he was so good in

0:20:25.040 --> 0:20:30.119
<v Speaker 3>the second half that why does it matter? It matters

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<v Speaker 3>only in this context we had never seen We had

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<v Speaker 3>only seen Lamar have won prior to this weekend one

0:20:38.760 --> 0:20:43.080
<v Speaker 3>good playoff game in his career, and even in that game,

0:20:43.520 --> 0:20:46.480
<v Speaker 3>he was shaky for a half, got his footing, and

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<v Speaker 3>then was excellent. Saturday Demanse he was awesome from the

0:20:54.000 --> 0:20:57.040
<v Speaker 3>first play of the game. There was no like the

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<v Speaker 3>and the game's a blowout out eventually, but it was

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<v Speaker 3>opening drive third and thirteen third and thirteen dime touchdown

0:21:09.680 --> 0:21:13.680
<v Speaker 3>pass like that. The game wouldn't have blow out. Then

0:21:14.080 --> 0:21:17.040
<v Speaker 3>all the nerves were there. Then you're playing Pittsburgh like

0:21:17.680 --> 0:21:21.959
<v Speaker 3>so he gets a ton of credit for that, a

0:21:22.000 --> 0:21:23.040
<v Speaker 3>ton of credit for that.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I have.

0:21:27.320 --> 0:21:33.200
<v Speaker 3>Consistently made and some people look at this as a compliment.

0:21:33.280 --> 0:21:35.520
<v Speaker 3>Some people look at this as an insult. I mean

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<v Speaker 3>it as neither. But I've consistently made the Peyton Manning comparison.

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<v Speaker 3>And we went through that playoff game log last week,

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<v Speaker 3>so we'll do it once more.

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<v Speaker 2>The Peyton.

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<v Speaker 3>In the three postseason had those two games where he

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<v Speaker 3>had eight touchdown zero picks and then in the conference

0:22:04.040 --> 0:22:07.879
<v Speaker 3>championship game one touchdown four picks disaster.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>Take that to be Lamar last year where he had

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<v Speaker 3>the you know, was excellent in the game leading up

0:22:15.760 --> 0:22:18.480
<v Speaker 3>to the conference championship game than not good in the

0:22:18.520 --> 0:22:20.960
<v Speaker 3>conference championship game. Wasn't one touchdown four picks bad? But

0:22:21.000 --> 0:22:24.800
<v Speaker 3>also wasn't eight touchdown zero picks good? The very next year,

0:22:26.000 --> 0:22:31.760
<v Speaker 3>in his first playoff game Demons, Peyton Manning had five touchdowns,

0:22:31.840 --> 0:22:36.480
<v Speaker 3>one turnover, a one forty five right, and then in

0:22:36.520 --> 0:22:39.240
<v Speaker 3>the very next game they lost twenty to three and

0:22:39.320 --> 0:22:41.959
<v Speaker 3>he had zero touchdowns, one pick. I say that to

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<v Speaker 3>say this, I have not seen enough to say, oh,

0:22:48.600 --> 0:22:54.560
<v Speaker 3>he just is a different player, I will say, because

0:22:55.359 --> 0:22:57.439
<v Speaker 3>I don't think it was just a playoff thing for Lamar.

0:22:57.960 --> 0:23:00.520
<v Speaker 3>I thought it was his inability to beat the Steelers

0:23:00.520 --> 0:23:04.080
<v Speaker 3>in the regular season was a part of this. You

0:23:04.160 --> 0:23:07.359
<v Speaker 3>can now argue, Demanse, it's been two of these in

0:23:07.400 --> 0:23:12.080
<v Speaker 3>a row, really good performances, the regular season game against

0:23:12.119 --> 0:23:16.879
<v Speaker 3>Pittsburgh and then this playoff game. And I said this

0:23:17.040 --> 0:23:19.040
<v Speaker 3>on the TV show, but I want to say it

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<v Speaker 3>again here because Danny said to me, he was like, yeah,

0:23:24.800 --> 0:23:30.000
<v Speaker 3>you've set yourself up, so as long as Lamar doesn't

0:23:30.080 --> 0:23:32.720
<v Speaker 3>win the super Bowl, you get to claim you were right.

0:23:33.600 --> 0:23:39.480
<v Speaker 3>That's not true that I in order for me to

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<v Speaker 3>believe Demanse that Lamar is over his playoff woes, he

0:23:45.160 --> 0:23:47.680
<v Speaker 3>does not have to win the super Bowl. He doesn't

0:23:47.720 --> 0:23:50.720
<v Speaker 3>even have to get to the super Bowl, because I

0:23:50.760 --> 0:23:53.480
<v Speaker 3>don't think it's fair to ask anyone to beat Patrick

0:23:53.480 --> 0:23:54.560
<v Speaker 3>Mahomes and the Chiefs.

0:23:56.000 --> 0:23:57.640
<v Speaker 2>What he has to do.

0:23:58.720 --> 0:24:02.560
<v Speaker 3>What is income been on Lamar as he's just first

0:24:02.640 --> 0:24:07.600
<v Speaker 3>team All Pro and might win MVP again, is that.

0:24:09.160 --> 0:24:10.040
<v Speaker 2>He does not.

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<v Speaker 3>Have his worst game of the year in the playoffs,

0:24:17.280 --> 0:24:20.680
<v Speaker 3>because all four times previously he's been in the playoffs,

0:24:20.680 --> 0:24:24.639
<v Speaker 3>that's happened his worst individual game and the fewest points

0:24:24.680 --> 0:24:26.600
<v Speaker 3>they scored in any game all year came in the

0:24:26.600 --> 0:24:30.840
<v Speaker 3>playoff game. So this weekend, if they play a classic

0:24:30.920 --> 0:24:35.040
<v Speaker 3>against Buffalo and Lamar's an A minus but Josh is

0:24:35.080 --> 0:24:37.960
<v Speaker 3>an A plus and the Bills win, I give you

0:24:38.080 --> 0:24:41.240
<v Speaker 3>all my word. I will not be coming on and

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<v Speaker 3>being like see told you so, Lamar can't get it done.

0:24:44.880 --> 0:24:48.959
<v Speaker 3>That's not what it is. It is not flatly super

0:24:48.960 --> 0:24:53.840
<v Speaker 3>Bowl or bust. I just need him to play at

0:24:54.200 --> 0:24:58.440
<v Speaker 3>regular season ish Lamar level for a whole playoff run,

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<v Speaker 3>and if they lose, they lose. And this, listen, this

0:25:01.800 --> 0:25:05.200
<v Speaker 3>game was a huge step in the right direction. And

0:25:05.280 --> 0:25:08.520
<v Speaker 3>so I know people don't like my Lamar opinion. I

0:25:08.520 --> 0:25:10.600
<v Speaker 3>don't think Demonte likes my Lamar opinion.

0:25:12.119 --> 0:25:17.680
<v Speaker 2>But that's where that's where I stand on it.

0:25:18.400 --> 0:25:23.439
<v Speaker 3>And the reason I'm gonna keep hammering the Peyton Manning

0:25:23.560 --> 0:25:27.240
<v Speaker 3>drum is it's to illustrate.

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<v Speaker 2>That you can be even if.

0:25:30.560 --> 0:25:35.159
<v Speaker 3>He doesn't get over this, he'll still likely become a

0:25:35.280 --> 0:25:38.520
<v Speaker 3>champion one day and be one of the greatest players ever.

0:25:39.920 --> 0:25:46.440
<v Speaker 3>But maybe listen, last point I'll make on this. If

0:25:46.480 --> 0:25:52.360
<v Speaker 3>he is over it and he is excellent this postseason

0:25:56.560 --> 0:26:00.880
<v Speaker 3>and then there's no more yeah butts about him, then

0:26:00.960 --> 0:26:09.600
<v Speaker 3>you do start discussing him alongside Manning and Rogers and.

0:26:09.680 --> 0:26:12.920
<v Speaker 2>Farv and Elway.

0:26:13.960 --> 0:26:20.119
<v Speaker 3>As the greatest quarterbacks we've ever seen, other than the

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<v Speaker 3>two greatest quarterbacks we've ever seen.

0:26:23.840 --> 0:26:25.520
<v Speaker 4>Like that's he had Manning.

0:26:26.160 --> 0:26:28.840
<v Speaker 5>But Manning you're saying, had like questions in his career.

0:26:28.920 --> 0:26:33.240
<v Speaker 5>You know, he always had those stills.

0:26:31.240 --> 0:26:38.679
<v Speaker 2>And quarterback ever and man Peyton's the fourth greatest quarterback ever. No,

0:26:38.760 --> 0:26:39.919
<v Speaker 2>what I to me?

0:26:40.600 --> 0:26:46.040
<v Speaker 3>I so Peyton, So I understand what you're saying, which

0:26:46.080 --> 0:26:48.119
<v Speaker 3>is you're saying, even if he overcomes it, why is

0:26:48.160 --> 0:26:51.680
<v Speaker 3>he then just alongside Peyton? I get the question. It's

0:26:51.760 --> 0:26:58.399
<v Speaker 3>just because Peyton's had a twenty year career, won five MVPs,

0:26:58.440 --> 0:27:00.960
<v Speaker 3>not you know, not two or three, was First Pro,

0:27:01.200 --> 0:27:06.080
<v Speaker 3>First Team All Pro seven times, went to four Super Bowls,

0:27:06.440 --> 0:27:11.600
<v Speaker 3>you know one like there's the So take Manning out

0:27:11.600 --> 0:27:14.200
<v Speaker 3>of it for the because I get it's a little confusing.

0:27:14.920 --> 0:27:17.960
<v Speaker 3>My point is if Lamar goes on a great playoff

0:27:18.040 --> 0:27:23.080
<v Speaker 3>run and they win the championship, then Lamar versus Aaron

0:27:23.160 --> 0:27:28.200
<v Speaker 3>Rodgers instantly becomes a real debate. If Lamar does nothing

0:27:28.200 --> 0:27:31.720
<v Speaker 3>else the rest of his career, Lamar versus Brett fav

0:27:32.600 --> 0:27:36.480
<v Speaker 3>those got like that instant that becomes not a projection debate,

0:27:36.840 --> 0:27:44.240
<v Speaker 3>an instant right now debate. So but even if he doesn't,

0:27:45.160 --> 0:27:49.320
<v Speaker 3>he has done so much great stuff in the regular season,

0:27:50.040 --> 0:27:52.960
<v Speaker 3>I think that he's gonna And maybe this is the team.

0:27:53.040 --> 0:27:56.760
<v Speaker 3>By the way, the other thing there is maybe Lamar

0:27:57.240 --> 0:28:02.280
<v Speaker 3>maybe now Demons because they have Derrek Kenny. The Ravens

0:28:02.400 --> 0:28:07.000
<v Speaker 3>finally have a team that even if Lamar has his

0:28:07.160 --> 0:28:11.080
<v Speaker 3>worst game of the year, they win anyway like that,

0:28:11.200 --> 0:28:14.240
<v Speaker 3>you know, which is how what Peyton was able to do.

0:28:14.440 --> 0:28:15.760
<v Speaker 2>All right, let's talk Buffalo.

0:28:17.200 --> 0:28:19.439
<v Speaker 5>Yes, so after falling down seven to zero to that

0:28:19.520 --> 0:28:21.840
<v Speaker 5>quick score by the Broncos, the Bills scored on the

0:28:21.840 --> 0:28:24.919
<v Speaker 5>Broncos thirty one times. I'd answer, would you say this

0:28:25.000 --> 0:28:27.760
<v Speaker 5>is more of the Bills being dominant or the Broncos

0:28:27.800 --> 0:28:29.160
<v Speaker 5>just not being postseason ready?

0:28:31.240 --> 0:28:32.240
<v Speaker 2>A little bit of both.

0:28:32.480 --> 0:28:37.600
<v Speaker 3>But this is an opportunity for me to my new

0:28:38.080 --> 0:28:41.880
<v Speaker 3>somewhat annual plea of the NFL did not need Dad.

0:28:41.880 --> 0:28:45.160
<v Speaker 2>The seventh playoff team just didn't.

0:28:46.840 --> 0:28:53.360
<v Speaker 3>This was the I understand that last year's Packers Cowboys

0:28:53.440 --> 0:28:57.520
<v Speaker 3>game was awesome, but we now have had ten of

0:28:57.560 --> 0:29:02.440
<v Speaker 3>these two versus seven games, and they have resulted in

0:29:02.640 --> 0:29:07.320
<v Speaker 3>nine victories for the two seed and few memorable games

0:29:07.360 --> 0:29:14.600
<v Speaker 3>at all. In twoenty twenty, the Bills beat a Philip

0:29:14.720 --> 0:29:18.480
<v Speaker 3>Rivers led Colts team in a not that good good

0:29:18.480 --> 0:29:20.760
<v Speaker 3>of a game. It was close, but not that good,

0:29:21.640 --> 0:29:25.560
<v Speaker 3>and the Saints beat the Bears twenty one to nine

0:29:25.720 --> 0:29:30.960
<v Speaker 3>in a gross game. In twenty twenty one, Tampa Bay

0:29:31.000 --> 0:29:35.920
<v Speaker 3>with Tom Brady rolled Jalen Hurts in the Eagles first

0:29:35.960 --> 0:29:38.960
<v Speaker 3>time starter in an ugly game that didn't need to

0:29:39.000 --> 0:29:44.200
<v Speaker 3>be played, and Kansas City scored thirty five consecutive points

0:29:44.280 --> 0:29:47.200
<v Speaker 3>on the better than a bye Pittsburgh Steelers that did

0:29:47.240 --> 0:29:51.520
<v Speaker 3>not want to be there. In twenty twenty two, the

0:29:51.600 --> 0:29:56.160
<v Speaker 3>seventh seed allowed a Miami team that at that point

0:29:56.240 --> 0:30:00.640
<v Speaker 3>was quarterbacked by Skyler Thompson into the playoffs and the

0:30:00.680 --> 0:30:05.400
<v Speaker 3>Bills beat him. And Gino in his first year with Seattle,

0:30:05.840 --> 0:30:10.600
<v Speaker 3>got dog walked by the Niners forty one to twenty three.

0:30:10.680 --> 0:30:14.480
<v Speaker 3>And then last year we had the one upset, which

0:30:14.680 --> 0:30:18.560
<v Speaker 3>was cool, the Packers and Jordan Love. And then on

0:30:18.600 --> 0:30:23.160
<v Speaker 3>the other side of the bracket you had Buffalo absolutely

0:30:23.200 --> 0:30:28.880
<v Speaker 3>annihilating Mason Rudolph and the Pittsburgh Steelers. And then this

0:30:29.080 --> 0:30:32.920
<v Speaker 3>year you had a Packers team that was not ready

0:30:32.920 --> 0:30:35.840
<v Speaker 3>for prime time, lose to Philly in a game Philly

0:30:35.880 --> 0:30:39.080
<v Speaker 3>didn't even want, and the Broncos get up seven to

0:30:39.120 --> 0:30:42.760
<v Speaker 3>nothing on Buffalo and then Buffalo score thirty one straight.

0:30:43.960 --> 0:30:47.840
<v Speaker 3>The previous format where the one and the two seeds

0:30:47.840 --> 0:30:54.120
<v Speaker 3>gotta buy was better. Buffalo like nothing against Josh Allen,

0:30:54.480 --> 0:30:58.640
<v Speaker 3>but everybody talks about these Josh Allen playoff stats. The

0:30:58.680 --> 0:31:02.320
<v Speaker 3>man has built an impire on being the two seed

0:31:02.880 --> 0:31:11.040
<v Speaker 3>and just absolutely crushing the the seventh seed that shouldn't

0:31:11.080 --> 0:31:16.000
<v Speaker 3>be in the playoffs, and like the joh, let me.

0:31:15.960 --> 0:31:16.440
<v Speaker 2>Pull it off.

0:31:17.320 --> 0:31:21.760
<v Speaker 3>I mean, and and so he's never had the bye,

0:31:22.120 --> 0:31:25.120
<v Speaker 3>he being Josh Allen because they've never been the one

0:31:25.200 --> 0:31:30.440
<v Speaker 3>seed and the team wasn't good, so Lamar had the bye.

0:31:31.560 --> 0:31:34.800
<v Speaker 2>Well it shouldn't. It's not The step padding is a

0:31:34.840 --> 0:31:36.000
<v Speaker 2>little unfair because.

0:31:37.280 --> 0:31:38.560
<v Speaker 4>He just gets thrown into the game.

0:31:38.680 --> 0:31:41.960
<v Speaker 5>You play who you play, obviously, but it's like congratulations,

0:31:41.960 --> 0:31:45.320
<v Speaker 5>you get to beat up on these guys in the postseason.

0:31:44.960 --> 0:31:50.640
<v Speaker 3>And it's been it's just been he they have been

0:31:52.000 --> 0:31:53.920
<v Speaker 3>the Have they been the two seed?

0:31:55.240 --> 0:31:57.840
<v Speaker 2>No, the Chiefs were the two seed one of those years. Oh,

0:31:57.840 --> 0:31:58.920
<v Speaker 2>when the Ravens were the.

0:31:59.080 --> 0:32:04.960
<v Speaker 3>One but Josh Allen in the wildcard round now as

0:32:05.040 --> 0:32:09.360
<v Speaker 3>fifteen touchdowns, two picks and a one fifteen rating, and

0:32:09.680 --> 0:32:13.680
<v Speaker 3>four of those times under the old format, they would

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<v Speaker 3>have had the bye. And so the other thing about

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<v Speaker 3>having the about the old format, we would have had

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<v Speaker 3>a way more exciting to me playoff race, like Denver

0:32:24.360 --> 0:32:27.120
<v Speaker 3>falling apart at the end of the year and those

0:32:27.160 --> 0:32:30.320
<v Speaker 3>two straight losses should have knocked him out of the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 3>It's one of the reasons why I have so little

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<v Speaker 3>sympathy for the Bengals. Bengals fans are like, oh, don't

0:32:35.280 --> 0:32:39.000
<v Speaker 3>let us in, guys, you wore the eight seed. You

0:32:39.160 --> 0:32:42.200
<v Speaker 3>finished as the eight seed. There's only sixteen teams in

0:32:42.240 --> 0:32:46.480
<v Speaker 3>the conference, like there should be a pretty good team

0:32:46.480 --> 0:32:50.440
<v Speaker 3>that gets left out. And the Packers at the very

0:32:50.520 --> 0:32:55.520
<v Speaker 3>end of the year and Washington it to me. Instead

0:32:55.560 --> 0:32:57.920
<v Speaker 3>of both of them being like, ah, this week eighteen

0:32:57.920 --> 0:32:59.880
<v Speaker 3>game doesn't matter, it should have been like, oh shit,

0:33:00.680 --> 0:33:04.440
<v Speaker 3>we've had an awesome season. We might miss the playoffs.

0:33:04.880 --> 0:33:07.720
<v Speaker 3>And so I just like the old format better and

0:33:08.040 --> 0:33:12.360
<v Speaker 3>I just think it is now it hugely benefits the

0:33:12.440 --> 0:33:18.840
<v Speaker 3>Chiefs this year, and so the Chiefs being the one

0:33:18.960 --> 0:33:21.400
<v Speaker 3>seed like, think about if you're Buffalo.

0:33:23.040 --> 0:33:26.600
<v Speaker 2>You're Buffalo. You had.

0:33:28.080 --> 0:33:33.880
<v Speaker 3>The second best record in the conference easily. You were

0:33:33.920 --> 0:33:38.640
<v Speaker 3>alive for the one seed until Christmas, and your reward

0:33:38.840 --> 0:33:44.840
<v Speaker 3>is what you got to play around one game and

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<v Speaker 3>then you know, you get ready to host Baltimore in

0:33:50.440 --> 0:33:54.560
<v Speaker 3>what will be an absolute war as opposed to what

0:33:54.640 --> 0:33:58.560
<v Speaker 3>it could have been of Hey, Buffalo, you were excellent

0:33:58.600 --> 0:34:02.920
<v Speaker 3>this year start to finish. Baltimore finished incredibly strong, but

0:34:03.080 --> 0:34:06.480
<v Speaker 3>obviously had those hiccups early in the year. The punishment

0:34:06.520 --> 0:34:11.279
<v Speaker 3>for that is Baltimore is coming off a game and

0:34:11.360 --> 0:34:15.640
<v Speaker 3>Buffalo's fully rested getting ready for Baltimore. So I just

0:34:16.400 --> 0:34:20.040
<v Speaker 3>I think Philly did not need to play this weekend

0:34:20.120 --> 0:34:23.319
<v Speaker 3>and Buffalo didn't need to play this weekend. Now, my

0:34:23.400 --> 0:34:28.440
<v Speaker 3>other takeaway from that game, to be honest, is I

0:34:28.560 --> 0:34:30.960
<v Speaker 3>just really do think Josh Allen was the league's MVP

0:34:31.080 --> 0:34:35.400
<v Speaker 3>this year. There's nothing against Lamar, but I and I

0:34:35.440 --> 0:34:38.719
<v Speaker 3>know the regular season the postseason doesn't count, but that

0:34:38.920 --> 0:34:46.120
<v Speaker 3>Bill's offense seemed borderline unstoppable against a great defense, and

0:34:46.160 --> 0:34:49.520
<v Speaker 3>they have an awesome offensive line and James Cook's really good,

0:34:49.760 --> 0:34:51.920
<v Speaker 3>but it's all predicated on Josh.

0:34:52.000 --> 0:34:53.759
<v Speaker 2>Now, you can say the same thing about Lamar. I

0:34:53.840 --> 0:34:54.200
<v Speaker 2>get it.

0:34:54.480 --> 0:34:57.759
<v Speaker 3>But the Derrick Henry in his nineteen hundred yards was

0:34:57.800 --> 0:35:01.440
<v Speaker 3>a big factor there too. But that game went the

0:35:01.480 --> 0:35:04.040
<v Speaker 3>way anyone who watched football this year knew it was

0:35:04.080 --> 0:35:07.719
<v Speaker 3>gonna go, which is Buffalo was going to annihilate a

0:35:07.800 --> 0:35:10.640
<v Speaker 3>Broncos team that is not ready for the postseason.

0:35:11.440 --> 0:35:12.720
<v Speaker 2>Just wasn't go ahead.

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<v Speaker 5>It looks like you James Cook might not be as

0:35:14.680 --> 0:35:16.600
<v Speaker 5>big of a help as Derrick Henry.

0:35:16.320 --> 0:35:21.120
<v Speaker 4>But he's certainly he's actually certainly. Oh yeah. It takes

0:35:21.160 --> 0:35:23.360
<v Speaker 4>a little bit of weight off the shoulders of Josh.

0:35:23.080 --> 0:35:26.520
<v Speaker 3>Allen, no doubt about it. And he's an underrated player.

0:35:26.880 --> 0:35:30.680
<v Speaker 3>And the Bills offensive line is superb. That's the most

0:35:30.760 --> 0:35:33.400
<v Speaker 3>underrated part of their team. Uh do you have a

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<v Speaker 3>follow up before we get to Jaden?

0:35:35.000 --> 0:35:35.120
<v Speaker 4>Uh?

0:35:35.200 --> 0:35:37.400
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, So Josh, Josh Allen was over there having a

0:35:37.400 --> 0:35:38.400
<v Speaker 5>convo with the refs.

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<v Speaker 4>What do you think about that?

0:35:41.440 --> 0:35:49.279
<v Speaker 3>So listen, here's Josh Allen was not having a conversation

0:35:49.360 --> 0:35:53.040
<v Speaker 3>with the refs. The refs were having a conversation with

0:35:53.160 --> 0:35:56.400
<v Speaker 3>Josh Allen, and that is an important distinction.

0:35:57.120 --> 0:35:59.239
<v Speaker 2>And so John like.

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<v Speaker 3>The ref coming over to the sideline and you know,

0:36:05.480 --> 0:36:09.799
<v Speaker 3>making sure Josh Allen was not mad at him and like,

0:36:09.840 --> 0:36:12.160
<v Speaker 3>oh sorry, I missed it, We'll do better next time.

0:36:12.719 --> 0:36:17.640
<v Speaker 3>To me, is kind of embarrassing and I've never seen

0:36:17.719 --> 0:36:22.840
<v Speaker 3>anything like it, and I'm not gonna make the biggest

0:36:22.840 --> 0:36:25.160
<v Speaker 3>deal in the world out of it, but I am

0:36:25.320 --> 0:36:28.719
<v Speaker 3>going to make this point, which is.

0:36:30.680 --> 0:36:31.839
<v Speaker 2>Josh Allen.

0:36:33.800 --> 0:36:43.240
<v Speaker 3>Gets the treatment from the refs that people pretend Patrick

0:36:43.320 --> 0:36:50.080
<v Speaker 3>Mahomes gets and it's a frustrating dynamic. Dynamic Okay, So,

0:36:50.160 --> 0:36:53.399
<v Speaker 3>since since coming into the league, who has the most

0:36:53.480 --> 0:36:55.640
<v Speaker 3>roughing the passer calls of anyone?

0:36:56.320 --> 0:36:57.080
<v Speaker 2>By a mile?

0:36:57.440 --> 0:37:01.680
<v Speaker 3>Josh Allen Mahomes is middle of the pack the whether

0:37:01.719 --> 0:37:07.520
<v Speaker 3>you do it per attempt or per game. Josh Allen

0:37:07.560 --> 0:37:11.520
<v Speaker 3>gets point three to two roughing the passer penalty is

0:37:11.560 --> 0:37:16.000
<v Speaker 3>a game, which is the most of any quarterback, so

0:37:16.200 --> 0:37:18.880
<v Speaker 3>one in every three games he gets roughing the passer penalty.

0:37:19.200 --> 0:37:23.080
<v Speaker 3>Patrick Mahomes is at point two to three, which is

0:37:23.680 --> 0:37:27.520
<v Speaker 3>less than Baker Mayfield. If you do it per one

0:37:27.560 --> 0:37:31.680
<v Speaker 3>thousand attempts the or let me try to see if

0:37:31.719 --> 0:37:34.080
<v Speaker 3>I can get this. Yeah, if I get this number right,

0:37:34.440 --> 0:37:39.279
<v Speaker 3>see where Josh Allen is on this. It's point nine

0:37:40.280 --> 0:37:43.439
<v Speaker 3>per No, that's not right. I have this stat wrong.

0:37:43.480 --> 0:37:47.080
<v Speaker 3>I apologize, but oh, per one hundred attempts, per a

0:37:47.120 --> 0:37:49.279
<v Speaker 3>thousand attempts, this guy doesn't make any sense at all.

0:37:50.360 --> 0:37:55.880
<v Speaker 3>He's way up there compared to these other guys. Furthermore,

0:37:56.600 --> 0:38:00.600
<v Speaker 3>the Chiefs lost a playoff game in over time and

0:38:00.680 --> 0:38:03.120
<v Speaker 3>never got the ball to go to the super Bowl,

0:38:04.000 --> 0:38:09.520
<v Speaker 3>and the general reaction after a Brady Mahomes classic where

0:38:09.520 --> 0:38:13.760
<v Speaker 3>Mahomes had three separate fourth quarter comebacks and then lost

0:38:13.800 --> 0:38:17.600
<v Speaker 3>and then got the ball with thirty seconds left led

0:38:17.640 --> 0:38:20.279
<v Speaker 3>him to a game tying field goal, never saw the

0:38:20.320 --> 0:38:22.480
<v Speaker 3>ball again. The Patriots scored a touchdown, go to the

0:38:22.520 --> 0:38:26.680
<v Speaker 3>super Bowl. Everyone's reaction was, those are the rules? Shut up.

0:38:27.160 --> 0:38:30.440
<v Speaker 3>The Bills lost a playoff game to the Chiefs not

0:38:30.600 --> 0:38:32.040
<v Speaker 3>to go to the Super Bowl, to go to the

0:38:32.080 --> 0:38:35.919
<v Speaker 3>AFC Championship game in a classic when they never got

0:38:35.960 --> 0:38:39.799
<v Speaker 3>the ball and the NFL instantly changed the rules. The

0:38:39.880 --> 0:38:46.600
<v Speaker 3>Chiefs last year got absolutely hosed on a game losing

0:38:46.760 --> 0:38:49.839
<v Speaker 3>call on pass interference in the game we watched at

0:38:49.880 --> 0:38:54.799
<v Speaker 3>Wayne's house Demanse against the Packers. Everyone's reaction was, get

0:38:54.880 --> 0:38:59.040
<v Speaker 3>over it. The Bills get kind of hosed on a

0:38:59.080 --> 0:39:01.480
<v Speaker 3>miss holding all in the end zone get a field

0:39:01.520 --> 0:39:03.880
<v Speaker 3>goal anyway, and the ref comes over to the sideline

0:39:03.880 --> 0:39:08.399
<v Speaker 3>and apologizes, I'm not a conspiracy theorist, and I don't

0:39:08.400 --> 0:39:12.640
<v Speaker 3>think there's any conspiracy there. But everyone in the world

0:39:12.760 --> 0:39:19.320
<v Speaker 3>knows that if a referee, the head referee was at

0:39:19.440 --> 0:39:26.360
<v Speaker 3>the chief's bench put saying to Mahomes, patting his chest,

0:39:26.840 --> 0:39:29.800
<v Speaker 3>saying my bad, and then tapping him on the head,

0:39:30.840 --> 0:39:38.520
<v Speaker 3>it would be memed into the the atmosphere. And so

0:39:39.560 --> 0:39:44.640
<v Speaker 3>it You know, sometimes the reality of a situation is

0:39:44.680 --> 0:39:49.120
<v Speaker 3>not what you wish it was, but it is. And

0:39:49.160 --> 0:39:53.719
<v Speaker 3>so it's just oh and it's just a little frustrating,

0:39:53.800 --> 0:39:56.799
<v Speaker 3>so to speak. But whatever, I don't really care that much,

0:39:58.080 --> 0:39:58.480
<v Speaker 3>and so.

0:40:00.480 --> 0:40:02.719
<v Speaker 2>Is what it is. All right, we can move on.

0:40:03.880 --> 0:40:07.440
<v Speaker 5>So Jade and Daniels went in there, knocked Baker Mayfield

0:40:07.480 --> 0:40:10.960
<v Speaker 5>out of the playoffs. This sky is really impressive. So

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<v Speaker 5>he obviously advances, Are you finally willing to admit that

0:40:14.880 --> 0:40:17.800
<v Speaker 5>he was the better quarterback in Kleb Williams draft class?

0:40:17.800 --> 0:40:19.000
<v Speaker 4>That guy you were saying it was gonna go to.

0:40:18.960 --> 0:40:21.960
<v Speaker 3>The Okay, Well see that's that that's a bridge too far.

0:40:22.800 --> 0:40:28.600
<v Speaker 3>He has certainly had a better rookie season. I mean

0:40:28.640 --> 0:40:35.560
<v Speaker 3>that's not that's not arguable, and win offensive Rookie the

0:40:35.640 --> 0:40:40.600
<v Speaker 3>Year and win a playoff game for a quarterback Big Ben, CJ. Stroud, Jade,

0:40:40.600 --> 0:40:45.920
<v Speaker 3>and Daniels. That's the list. And Jayden's clutch performances have

0:40:46.120 --> 0:40:51.279
<v Speaker 3>been spectacular, spectacular. So many of these wins come down

0:40:51.320 --> 0:40:54.000
<v Speaker 3>to the final minute, they're trailing, they or they're tied, whatever,

0:40:54.040 --> 0:40:59.759
<v Speaker 3>it is so great and he makes the plays I do.

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<v Speaker 3>I want the record to reflect that the entirety of

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<v Speaker 3>why I liked Drake May forget Caleb because I think

0:41:09.960 --> 0:41:12.280
<v Speaker 3>Caleb is going to be a superstar, like we're gonna

0:41:12.640 --> 0:41:14.480
<v Speaker 3>we will wait and see if I'm right or wrong

0:41:14.480 --> 0:41:19.279
<v Speaker 3>about Caleb. But I also was not in the minority

0:41:19.320 --> 0:41:22.080
<v Speaker 3>in saying Caleb is the best quarterback in this draft

0:41:22.080 --> 0:41:26.000
<v Speaker 3>class where people can come after me on Jaden is.

0:41:27.280 --> 0:41:31.960
<v Speaker 3>I liked Drake May more than Jaden and part of

0:41:31.960 --> 0:41:37.480
<v Speaker 3>that was an age thing, But the real reason was

0:41:39.040 --> 0:41:44.080
<v Speaker 3>my concern that Jaden Daniels and his frame is not

0:41:44.120 --> 0:41:51.000
<v Speaker 3>going to be able to take NFL punishment, that the

0:41:51.160 --> 0:41:55.040
<v Speaker 3>verdict will not be in on that for a couple years.

0:41:55.440 --> 0:41:58.880
<v Speaker 3>It was never that I thought he wasn't talented. I

0:41:58.920 --> 0:42:01.359
<v Speaker 3>thought he wouldn't be good, and I do think it's

0:42:01.440 --> 0:42:06.160
<v Speaker 3>noteworthy for whatever it's worth that the listen, this Washington team,

0:42:06.160 --> 0:42:10.200
<v Speaker 3>which now has thirteen wins. The only time all year

0:42:10.560 --> 0:42:13.400
<v Speaker 3>they didn't look great was right after he got his

0:42:13.480 --> 0:42:17.600
<v Speaker 3>ribs cracked and he was banged up. And so no,

0:42:17.920 --> 0:42:22.239
<v Speaker 3>this is an all time rookie season by him. And

0:42:22.440 --> 0:42:26.480
<v Speaker 3>I'll say something else that's positive for Commanders fans. He

0:42:26.560 --> 0:42:30.640
<v Speaker 3>becomes the fourth rookie quarterback ever to win a road

0:42:30.640 --> 0:42:35.520
<v Speaker 3>playoff game. Now, the other guys on the list, two

0:42:35.600 --> 0:42:39.080
<v Speaker 3>of them were not great quarterbacks. But what's positive about

0:42:39.080 --> 0:42:42.719
<v Speaker 3>it is what they did next. Mark Sanchez did it,

0:42:42.920 --> 0:42:45.799
<v Speaker 3>went on the road and won a playoff game, and

0:42:45.840 --> 0:42:48.759
<v Speaker 3>then also went on the road the next round and

0:42:48.800 --> 0:42:50.720
<v Speaker 3>won a playoff game and showed up in the AFC

0:42:50.800 --> 0:42:55.919
<v Speaker 3>Championship game. Joe Flacco did it, went on the road

0:42:55.920 --> 0:42:59.400
<v Speaker 3>and won a playoff game, and then also the next

0:42:59.520 --> 0:43:02.279
<v Speaker 3>round went on the road and won a playoff game

0:43:02.320 --> 0:43:05.880
<v Speaker 3>and showed up in the AFC Championship game. Russell Wilson

0:43:05.960 --> 0:43:10.440
<v Speaker 3>did it, and then the next round executed a twenty

0:43:10.440 --> 0:43:16.040
<v Speaker 3>plus point comeback to take a one point lead with

0:43:16.280 --> 0:43:19.919
<v Speaker 3>thirty seconds left to go to the NFC Championship game.

0:43:20.239 --> 0:43:23.160
<v Speaker 3>And then Matt Ryan and the Falcons gotten field goal

0:43:23.239 --> 0:43:25.279
<v Speaker 3>range kicked a game winning field goal and they went to.

0:43:25.200 --> 0:43:26.520
<v Speaker 2>The NFC Championship game.

0:43:26.800 --> 0:43:30.440
<v Speaker 3>So the point I'm meaning is this rookie quarterbacks that

0:43:30.560 --> 0:43:33.880
<v Speaker 3>win road playoff game. Small sample, but two of the

0:43:33.920 --> 0:43:37.759
<v Speaker 3>three then pulled off another upset the next round, and

0:43:37.800 --> 0:43:40.360
<v Speaker 3>the one that didn't had a lead with five seconds

0:43:40.440 --> 0:43:43.120
<v Speaker 3>left and lost on a field goal at the gun.

0:43:43.719 --> 0:43:48.520
<v Speaker 3>So this is spectacular by Jaden. The flip side of

0:43:48.520 --> 0:43:55.279
<v Speaker 3>that game is man Tampa's. This is the NFL is

0:43:55.280 --> 0:43:58.840
<v Speaker 3>great rookies in the playoffs.

0:43:59.239 --> 0:44:00.560
<v Speaker 2>You're always a little nervous.

0:44:02.120 --> 0:44:05.920
<v Speaker 3>And Tampa has the lead and has the ball and

0:44:06.120 --> 0:44:12.480
<v Speaker 3>either their rookie center snaps it late or their rookie

0:44:12.560 --> 0:44:19.160
<v Speaker 3>wide receiver started his motion early and the timing handoff

0:44:19.160 --> 0:44:23.520
<v Speaker 3>on that jet sweep is not there and they fumble,

0:44:24.320 --> 0:44:29.280
<v Speaker 3>and all of a sudden they're trailing. A few minutes later,

0:44:29.760 --> 0:44:35.160
<v Speaker 3>they have third inches and the rookie center definitively snaps

0:44:35.200 --> 0:44:38.560
<v Speaker 3>it too early. The team's not ready, They have to

0:44:38.600 --> 0:44:43.040
<v Speaker 3>settle for a field goal and they lose. The Commander's

0:44:43.120 --> 0:44:49.480
<v Speaker 3>rookie quarterback was unbelievable. The Bucks rookie center had a

0:44:49.520 --> 0:44:52.840
<v Speaker 3>couple tough moments, and it might have cost him the

0:44:52.880 --> 0:44:55.319
<v Speaker 3>game because I thought Tampa was gonna go score a

0:44:55.360 --> 0:44:58.799
<v Speaker 3>touchdown there. Now, maybe Demon's Jayden then still drives him down,

0:44:58.920 --> 0:45:02.880
<v Speaker 3>score touchdown, they win. But I thought Baker, Baker was

0:45:02.920 --> 0:45:08.719
<v Speaker 3>fifteen of eighteen. Yeah, Tampa, only Baker played well. They

0:45:08.719 --> 0:45:14.040
<v Speaker 3>never had the ball. Tampa ran forty four offensive plays.

0:45:14.400 --> 0:45:18.840
<v Speaker 3>They just never had the ball. And so I listen,

0:45:18.880 --> 0:45:23.160
<v Speaker 3>I thought Baker, you know, handled himself quite well. Jaden's

0:45:23.200 --> 0:45:26.080
<v Speaker 3>team and Jayden, you know, Jaden played better and the

0:45:26.120 --> 0:45:29.439
<v Speaker 3>Commanders played better, and shout out to them. One guy

0:45:29.440 --> 0:45:32.759
<v Speaker 3>who did not handle himself well was Justin Herbert. We'll

0:45:32.760 --> 0:45:41.520
<v Speaker 3>discuss that next quick break. Right back, what's right? All right,

0:45:41.560 --> 0:45:43.719
<v Speaker 3>welcome back in. We'll right with Nick Wright, episode two

0:45:43.920 --> 0:45:47.240
<v Speaker 3>ninety two. All right, demonsie, let's talk some Justin Herbert.

0:45:47.239 --> 0:45:48.200
<v Speaker 2>By the way, that was a long a.

0:45:48.280 --> 0:45:50.879
<v Speaker 3>Block forty five minutes or so. Let's talk some Justin

0:45:50.920 --> 0:45:52.439
<v Speaker 3>Herbert before we get to our game.

0:45:52.920 --> 0:45:55.960
<v Speaker 5>So, yeah, Justin Herbert had a rough game against the Texans.

0:45:56.200 --> 0:45:59.680
<v Speaker 5>He's now responsible for two of the biggest playoff note

0:45:59.760 --> 0:46:02.719
<v Speaker 5>down in a recent memory, but the Internet is still

0:46:02.719 --> 0:46:06.440
<v Speaker 5>defending him. Why has the discourse surrounding Justin Herbert always

0:46:06.440 --> 0:46:07.759
<v Speaker 5>been so weird and confusing?

0:46:10.000 --> 0:46:11.560
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's not confusing to me at all. He's

0:46:11.600 --> 0:46:17.880
<v Speaker 3>super talented guy who's underachieved. I so I tweeted about

0:46:18.200 --> 0:46:23.359
<v Speaker 3>an article that I read right after the game by

0:46:23.560 --> 0:46:26.080
<v Speaker 3>Connor Orr, who I think does a really good job.

0:46:27.000 --> 0:46:29.840
<v Speaker 3>And I was probably a little harsh in my tweet,

0:46:30.000 --> 0:46:33.680
<v Speaker 3>and I you know, I feel badly about that, but

0:46:33.840 --> 0:46:38.000
<v Speaker 3>it just felt to me like this level of excuse

0:46:38.080 --> 0:46:41.840
<v Speaker 3>making for one of the highest paid, most highly regarded

0:46:41.880 --> 0:46:46.480
<v Speaker 3>players in the league's ridiculous. So the headline from Connor's

0:46:46.560 --> 0:46:49.200
<v Speaker 3>article was, this wasn't a Justin Herbert meltdown. This was

0:46:49.200 --> 0:46:52.800
<v Speaker 3>a quarterback meeting the hard sealing limitations of his roster.

0:46:53.320 --> 0:46:56.280
<v Speaker 3>And everyone understands that the Charger's not a perfect team.

0:46:56.600 --> 0:46:59.840
<v Speaker 3>They only have one receiver really that you trust, the

0:47:00.080 --> 0:47:02.680
<v Speaker 3>inside it The interior of their offensive line isn't great.

0:47:02.960 --> 0:47:08.040
<v Speaker 3>But guess what, man, once you're out of the rookie

0:47:08.160 --> 0:47:13.560
<v Speaker 3>salary scale, never gonna have a perfect roster. Sorry, just not.

0:47:14.280 --> 0:47:16.200
<v Speaker 3>And if you do, it'll be for a very very

0:47:16.280 --> 0:47:19.680
<v Speaker 3>brief period of time, and you'd be like, well, they

0:47:19.719 --> 0:47:24.040
<v Speaker 3>need to get better receivers and interior offensive linement. Okay,

0:47:25.080 --> 0:47:28.080
<v Speaker 3>well that's gonna come at a cost. Your left tackle

0:47:28.120 --> 0:47:29.880
<v Speaker 3>is one of the best in football. Your right tackle

0:47:29.920 --> 0:47:32.320
<v Speaker 3>you took in the top ten. You've tried to address

0:47:32.360 --> 0:47:35.040
<v Speaker 3>the receiver. Drafted Quentin Johnson the first round miss on

0:47:35.040 --> 0:47:38.280
<v Speaker 3>that pick. I guess drafted lad McConkey very very beginning

0:47:38.320 --> 0:47:40.400
<v Speaker 3>of round two. But you also have the number one

0:47:40.440 --> 0:47:43.960
<v Speaker 3>defense in football and a universally regarded great head coach.

0:47:44.360 --> 0:47:52.160
<v Speaker 3>So you're not in disastrous shape. And my frustration about

0:47:52.160 --> 0:47:56.400
<v Speaker 3>the Herbert stuff right after this game was justin Herbert

0:47:57.040 --> 0:48:04.520
<v Speaker 3>had one one argument that he had a great season

0:48:05.880 --> 0:48:09.600
<v Speaker 3>only through three picks. The rest of his numbers were

0:48:09.680 --> 0:48:13.480
<v Speaker 3>not that good. The advanced numbers or the regular numbers

0:48:13.520 --> 0:48:15.960
<v Speaker 3>were not that good. But what he did was the

0:48:16.080 --> 0:48:20.759
<v Speaker 3>argument was excellent coach, great defense, don't turn the ball over,

0:48:21.040 --> 0:48:22.000
<v Speaker 3>we'll win games.

0:48:22.360 --> 0:48:23.440
<v Speaker 2>Got it awesome?

0:48:23.560 --> 0:48:28.640
<v Speaker 3>Fine, but then you can't literally have more picks in

0:48:28.800 --> 0:48:31.840
<v Speaker 3>the one playoff game than you had all season.

0:48:32.239 --> 0:48:33.120
<v Speaker 2>That's obvious.

0:48:33.920 --> 0:48:39.200
<v Speaker 3>And I understand the third interception was not on him,

0:48:39.520 --> 0:48:43.239
<v Speaker 3>but the first two interceptions are what lost them the

0:48:43.280 --> 0:48:50.600
<v Speaker 3>game because the Texans were playing terribly. The Texans were

0:48:50.640 --> 0:48:56.439
<v Speaker 3>not ready. The Texans looked like they looked leading into

0:48:56.480 --> 0:49:01.000
<v Speaker 3>the playoffs, like the worst team in the tournament. Texans

0:49:01.360 --> 0:49:07.319
<v Speaker 3>opening drive, first play, fumble, Texans second drive, three and out,

0:49:08.080 --> 0:49:13.520
<v Speaker 3>Texans next drive, five and out. At that point, you

0:49:13.719 --> 0:49:16.920
<v Speaker 3>need to be up more than six nothing, but they weren't,

0:49:17.080 --> 0:49:23.360
<v Speaker 3>so be it. Texans next drive interception just a horrific

0:49:23.480 --> 0:49:24.360
<v Speaker 3>throw by CJ.

0:49:24.520 --> 0:49:24.960
<v Speaker 2>Stroud.

0:49:27.040 --> 0:49:33.600
<v Speaker 3>In that moment, the Texans have run one three. Let

0:49:33.600 --> 0:49:35.680
<v Speaker 3>me get sorry, I want to get this exactly right.

0:49:36.080 --> 0:49:40.399
<v Speaker 3>In that moment, the Texans have run twelve plays, they

0:49:40.440 --> 0:49:46.040
<v Speaker 3>have turned the ball over twice, and they have forty

0:49:46.120 --> 0:49:51.839
<v Speaker 3>yards of offense. Okay, that's who they were playing. All

0:49:51.880 --> 0:49:55.040
<v Speaker 3>you need to do is not screw it up. And

0:49:55.080 --> 0:49:58.080
<v Speaker 3>Herbert throws across his body one hash to the other

0:49:58.920 --> 0:50:02.320
<v Speaker 3>to unreliable and Johnson in double coverage and he gets picked.

0:50:03.400 --> 0:50:10.000
<v Speaker 3>That is just an unfathomably bad mistake. Unbelievably, the Texans

0:50:10.320 --> 0:50:14.040
<v Speaker 3>make nothing of it, go four and out, and then

0:50:14.080 --> 0:50:17.719
<v Speaker 3>the Chargers once again do nothing. So you've had six

0:50:17.800 --> 0:50:22.160
<v Speaker 3>opportunities to blow this game open. You're up six to nothing.

0:50:23.040 --> 0:50:27.160
<v Speaker 3>The Texans then have that crazy third and sixteen play

0:50:27.719 --> 0:50:30.920
<v Speaker 3>leads to a touchdown, and all of a sudden you're trailing.

0:50:31.840 --> 0:50:35.560
<v Speaker 3>You get the ball back demonse with a minute left

0:50:36.520 --> 0:50:41.719
<v Speaker 3>on your own thirty down seven to six, mileven verse half,

0:50:42.560 --> 0:50:46.320
<v Speaker 3>and not only do you not get points the Texans do.

0:50:47.800 --> 0:50:48.759
<v Speaker 2>You got the ball a.

0:50:48.760 --> 0:50:52.400
<v Speaker 3>Minute left on your own thirty down seven to six.

0:50:52.760 --> 0:50:56.560
<v Speaker 3>You went to halftime down ten to six. Should have

0:50:56.560 --> 0:51:00.520
<v Speaker 3>gone to halftime up nine to seven. But again, the

0:51:00.560 --> 0:51:05.360
<v Speaker 3>game's not over. The Texans on the opening drive of

0:51:05.400 --> 0:51:10.720
<v Speaker 3>the second half fumble, you get the ball down four

0:51:11.800 --> 0:51:15.360
<v Speaker 3>and on fourth and two throw short of the sticks.

0:51:16.640 --> 0:51:20.800
<v Speaker 3>But even after that, the game's not over. The Texans

0:51:20.960 --> 0:51:25.280
<v Speaker 3>only get a field goal. You then immediately go three

0:51:25.280 --> 0:51:30.040
<v Speaker 3>and out, but after that the game's not over. The

0:51:30.080 --> 0:51:34.560
<v Speaker 3>Texans go three and out. You have the ball down seven.

0:51:35.120 --> 0:51:40.560
<v Speaker 3>The Texans are playing an F game, and somehow you're

0:51:40.680 --> 0:51:43.200
<v Speaker 3>only down seven because you're playing an F minus game.

0:51:43.880 --> 0:51:45.080
<v Speaker 2>And you throw a pick.

0:51:44.960 --> 0:51:49.319
<v Speaker 3>Six, So I don't give a about the third pick

0:51:49.440 --> 0:51:54.319
<v Speaker 3>not being his fault. That it was a playoff game,

0:51:54.440 --> 0:51:58.160
<v Speaker 3>ripe for the taking, and you had your worst game

0:51:58.200 --> 0:52:01.160
<v Speaker 3>of the year and the last time you were in

0:52:01.200 --> 0:52:06.080
<v Speaker 3>the playoffs, you were up twenty seven to nothing and

0:52:06.160 --> 0:52:08.320
<v Speaker 3>didn't make a single play the rest of the game.

0:52:09.480 --> 0:52:11.040
<v Speaker 2>And the other time.

0:52:12.239 --> 0:52:17.359
<v Speaker 3>You were in a playoff like Atmosphere Week eighteen, win

0:52:17.920 --> 0:52:22.759
<v Speaker 3>or tie and you're in what did you do in

0:52:22.840 --> 0:52:29.279
<v Speaker 3>that spot? You didn't do anything until your team was

0:52:29.960 --> 0:52:33.919
<v Speaker 3>found itself trailing twenty nine to fourteen in the fourth quarter.

0:52:35.800 --> 0:52:38.319
<v Speaker 3>He had a furious rally and found a way to

0:52:38.320 --> 0:52:45.759
<v Speaker 3>lose to Derek Carr. And so, I, I'm just half

0:52:45.840 --> 0:52:49.760
<v Speaker 3>decade into your career. It's not about your arm talent anymore.

0:52:49.800 --> 0:52:50.000
<v Speaker 4>Man.

0:52:51.400 --> 0:52:55.880
<v Speaker 3>And here's here's the too long didn't read my version

0:52:55.960 --> 0:53:04.760
<v Speaker 3>of my take on Herbert. If Justin Herbert had Baker

0:53:04.840 --> 0:53:10.680
<v Speaker 3>Mayfield's intangibles, we would have a real discussion about who

0:53:10.680 --> 0:53:11.920
<v Speaker 3>the best quarterback.

0:53:11.520 --> 0:53:13.440
<v Speaker 2>In football is him or Mahomes.

0:53:14.120 --> 0:53:22.120
<v Speaker 3>Justin Herbert's physical stature, and talent and how pretty throws

0:53:22.160 --> 0:53:25.520
<v Speaker 3>the football, all of it. If you add to it

0:53:26.160 --> 0:53:30.120
<v Speaker 3>that extra stuff Baker has, you have one of the

0:53:30.120 --> 0:53:32.759
<v Speaker 3>greatest players ever. And the flip side to that coin

0:53:32.840 --> 0:53:37.400
<v Speaker 3>is this, If Baker Mayfield, at his size and talent level,

0:53:38.280 --> 0:53:45.279
<v Speaker 3>had Justin Herbert's intangibles, he wouldn't have played college football,

0:53:45.360 --> 0:53:49.600
<v Speaker 3>and so, like I the book is not written.

0:53:50.800 --> 0:53:54.319
<v Speaker 2>But five years were a few chapters in.

0:53:56.000 --> 0:53:59.879
<v Speaker 3>And forty one and forty in your career and own

0:54:00.120 --> 0:54:03.720
<v Speaker 3>three with three bad games in your two playoff games

0:54:03.719 --> 0:54:05.120
<v Speaker 3>and one playoff adjacent game.

0:54:05.560 --> 0:54:08.319
<v Speaker 2>So that's that's what it is.

0:54:09.239 --> 0:54:12.240
<v Speaker 5>You said that Lamar might be a chronic playoff choker

0:54:12.760 --> 0:54:15.080
<v Speaker 5>and but he'll still eventually get a Super Bowl win.

0:54:15.440 --> 0:54:18.160
<v Speaker 5>Would you put Herbert in that same category or.

0:54:18.840 --> 0:54:23.560
<v Speaker 3>Herbert doesn't deserve to be listen, Lamar is now twice

0:54:23.680 --> 0:54:26.319
<v Speaker 3>played well in the playoffs. Lamar is good enough in

0:54:26.360 --> 0:54:30.560
<v Speaker 3>the regular season. He's always in the playoffs when he's healthy. Like, no,

0:54:30.760 --> 0:54:36.719
<v Speaker 3>Herbert's in a totally different tier. Herbert's the super talented.

0:54:36.840 --> 0:54:41.120
<v Speaker 3>But ah, like no, So that's uh, that would be

0:54:41.160 --> 0:54:46.279
<v Speaker 3>disrespectful to Lamar to say that that. I know, I mean,

0:54:46.480 --> 0:54:54.399
<v Speaker 3>he's very talented, but I I at some point, if

0:54:54.440 --> 0:55:00.160
<v Speaker 3>you've got a kid and you're still talking about what

0:55:00.239 --> 0:55:05.440
<v Speaker 3>amazing potential they have and they're thirty two years old,

0:55:05.920 --> 0:55:09.200
<v Speaker 3>it's like, well, I mean you might not you know,

0:55:09.440 --> 0:55:12.440
<v Speaker 3>that's nice, but you got you gotta put some wins

0:55:12.440 --> 0:55:18.200
<v Speaker 3>on the board. If you're an NFL quarterback, and you've

0:55:18.239 --> 0:55:22.719
<v Speaker 3>played five years and you're a five hundred quarterback, and

0:55:22.760 --> 0:55:27.359
<v Speaker 3>you've only made the playoffs twice, and you've had a

0:55:27.719 --> 0:55:32.040
<v Speaker 3>historic collapse in one of the games against an AFC

0:55:32.080 --> 0:55:36.080
<v Speaker 3>South team no one believed in and threw more picks

0:55:36.120 --> 0:55:39.560
<v Speaker 3>in one game than you did in the entire season,

0:55:39.600 --> 0:55:42.560
<v Speaker 3>but together in the other one against an AFC South

0:55:42.560 --> 0:55:45.080
<v Speaker 3>team no one believed in, when you were road favorites

0:55:45.120 --> 0:55:49.759
<v Speaker 3>both times. I mean, it's a tough conversation, just is

0:55:49.800 --> 0:55:51.399
<v Speaker 3>what it is. All right, let's go to the game. Oh,

0:55:51.400 --> 0:55:52.120
<v Speaker 3>go ahead, Demonta.

0:55:52.239 --> 0:55:55.680
<v Speaker 5>Sorry, which AFC team do you think has the best

0:55:55.719 --> 0:55:57.720
<v Speaker 5>chance at the thrown in the chiefs?

0:55:59.440 --> 0:56:04.360
<v Speaker 2>Oh? The AFC West team crown.

0:56:06.520 --> 0:56:08.240
<v Speaker 3>None of them?

0:56:08.800 --> 0:56:11.960
<v Speaker 5>I mean, it would have been the Chargers until this weekend,

0:56:12.520 --> 0:56:12.960
<v Speaker 5>wouldn't they.

0:56:13.560 --> 0:56:18.319
<v Speaker 3>Guys, it's no Patrick Mahomes is gonna do what Tom

0:56:18.360 --> 0:56:20.960
<v Speaker 3>Brady did, which is every year he's healthy, he's.

0:56:20.800 --> 0:56:21.640
<v Speaker 2>Gonna win the division.

0:56:23.400 --> 0:56:26.080
<v Speaker 3>Brady didn't win the division year, you know, with second

0:56:26.160 --> 0:56:28.600
<v Speaker 3>year as a starter, but every other year he was healthy,

0:56:28.640 --> 0:56:31.240
<v Speaker 3>they won the division. The answer is none of them,

0:56:31.280 --> 0:56:33.040
<v Speaker 3>None of them. All right, let's play a game real

0:56:33.120 --> 0:56:34.040
<v Speaker 3>quick before we move on.

0:56:35.239 --> 0:56:36.680
<v Speaker 4>Yes, we're playing right a wrong today.

0:56:36.920 --> 0:56:39.440
<v Speaker 5>First off, your Eagles beat down on the Packers and

0:56:39.480 --> 0:56:42.080
<v Speaker 5>are moving on to the divisional round. But once again

0:56:42.120 --> 0:56:44.680
<v Speaker 5>there seems to be frustration from A. J. Brown and

0:56:44.760 --> 0:56:47.839
<v Speaker 5>Jalen Hurts didn't do too much in the game, right

0:56:47.920 --> 0:56:50.759
<v Speaker 5>or wrong. The Eagles passing game struggles to prevent them

0:56:50.760 --> 0:56:51.960
<v Speaker 5>from reaching the super Bowl.

0:56:54.080 --> 0:56:55.279
<v Speaker 2>I'd be worried about it.

0:56:55.840 --> 0:56:59.799
<v Speaker 5>There's well when they have those types of problems, I'm sorry.

0:57:01.800 --> 0:57:06.400
<v Speaker 2>I I think you might be right. And listen. I

0:57:06.400 --> 0:57:07.040
<v Speaker 2>don't want.

0:57:06.880 --> 0:57:10.640
<v Speaker 3>To tune in to First I hate to do this,

0:57:11.880 --> 0:57:16.280
<v Speaker 3>but tune into First Things First today to see how

0:57:16.320 --> 0:57:20.880
<v Speaker 3>I feel about Eagles rams. But that's just this round

0:57:20.880 --> 0:57:23.520
<v Speaker 3>as far as winning the super Bowl. Like, right, listen,

0:57:23.760 --> 0:57:27.720
<v Speaker 3>right now this moment, Jalen Hurts is the weak link.

0:57:28.600 --> 0:57:30.400
<v Speaker 4>It just is. He just is.

0:57:31.800 --> 0:57:34.160
<v Speaker 2>On that roster. Jalen Hurts is the weak link.

0:57:34.640 --> 0:57:35.080
<v Speaker 4>Wow.

0:57:35.360 --> 0:57:38.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't know what else we're gonna point to.

0:57:40.000 --> 0:57:42.120
<v Speaker 3>AJ Brown is a huge pain in the ass, but

0:57:42.160 --> 0:57:46.680
<v Speaker 3>he's awesome. Devontae Smith is really good. Saquan's unbelievable. The

0:57:46.720 --> 0:57:49.000
<v Speaker 3>offensive line is great. The defense has been a lead

0:57:49.040 --> 0:57:52.200
<v Speaker 3>all year. I don't know what it is. I don't

0:57:52.200 --> 0:57:56.480
<v Speaker 3>know they're they're they're jackass fans screaming at ladies in

0:57:56.520 --> 0:57:59.880
<v Speaker 3>the stands or or or the quarterback. I think right

0:57:59.920 --> 0:58:01.040
<v Speaker 3>now it's the quarterback, all right.

0:58:01.080 --> 0:58:04.520
<v Speaker 5>Next, your guy, Baker capped off his best season ever

0:58:04.560 --> 0:58:08.680
<v Speaker 5>with an impressive impressive showing the loss versus Washington, where

0:58:08.720 --> 0:58:11.280
<v Speaker 5>he also had the critical mistake, critical mistake that changed

0:58:11.320 --> 0:58:13.720
<v Speaker 5>the game. Right or wrong Baker will play in a

0:58:13.760 --> 0:58:14.240
<v Speaker 5>super Bowl?

0:58:15.880 --> 0:58:19.959
<v Speaker 3>I mean you probably have to say wrong. I don't

0:58:19.960 --> 0:58:21.960
<v Speaker 3>think it's off the board. But if you offered me

0:58:22.000 --> 0:58:25.240
<v Speaker 3>an even money bet Baker Mayfield will or won't ever

0:58:25.320 --> 0:58:28.000
<v Speaker 3>play in a super Bowl. Probably smart money's on won't.

0:58:28.400 --> 0:58:31.000
<v Speaker 3>I like Baker a lot, but like that's super Bowl's

0:58:31.040 --> 0:58:34.720
<v Speaker 3>hard man like the now he's Fortunately he's in the

0:58:34.840 --> 0:58:39.960
<v Speaker 3>NFC where you know, you don't have to deal with

0:58:40.040 --> 0:58:42.600
<v Speaker 3>Mahomes making all of them and you know, and then

0:58:42.640 --> 0:58:44.560
<v Speaker 3>potentially also have to deal with Alan and Lamar.

0:58:45.640 --> 0:58:47.240
<v Speaker 2>But probably wrong, all right?

0:58:47.320 --> 0:58:50.960
<v Speaker 5>Next, my guy, Jordan Love had a rough season versus

0:58:50.960 --> 0:58:53.320
<v Speaker 5>the top dogs of the NFC. I went oh and

0:58:53.440 --> 0:58:55.880
<v Speaker 5>six versus versus Detroit, Minnesota and Philly.

0:58:56.480 --> 0:58:56.919
<v Speaker 2>Right or wrong?

0:58:57.000 --> 0:59:00.600
<v Speaker 4>The Packers over paide Jordan Love. That's what it was.

0:59:01.440 --> 0:59:03.840
<v Speaker 3>No, I'm not ready to say that, but I mean

0:59:03.880 --> 0:59:05.160
<v Speaker 3>the Packers weren't ready to.

0:59:05.080 --> 0:59:07.760
<v Speaker 2>Play with the big boys this year. Owen SI, like

0:59:08.000 --> 0:59:10.720
<v Speaker 2>Owen six is crazy.

0:59:11.320 --> 0:59:14.600
<v Speaker 5>I mean just kind of started at least started off behind.

0:59:14.640 --> 0:59:16.600
<v Speaker 5>It's just like you just kept trying to play catch up.

0:59:16.960 --> 0:59:18.960
<v Speaker 5>And like the injuries throughout the season, I feel like

0:59:18.960 --> 0:59:21.080
<v Speaker 5>they never had it had a complete team.

0:59:21.320 --> 0:59:21.720
<v Speaker 2>That's right.

0:59:22.320 --> 0:59:24.920
<v Speaker 4>Obviously you're never going to have a complete team.

0:59:25.200 --> 0:59:27.959
<v Speaker 3>But no, but the quarterback got hurt in week one,

0:59:28.160 --> 0:59:29.840
<v Speaker 3>that you know what I mean? Like, No, I think

0:59:29.880 --> 0:59:31.720
<v Speaker 3>that's I think that's a fair point.

0:59:32.360 --> 0:59:32.680
<v Speaker 2>All right.

0:59:32.720 --> 0:59:34.640
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to talk Tom Leiner McCarthy here. The

0:59:34.680 --> 0:59:37.160
<v Speaker 3>show's gone too long already, and I want to be

0:59:37.200 --> 0:59:39.080
<v Speaker 3>able to get some listener questions. We may be talking

0:59:39.120 --> 0:59:42.600
<v Speaker 3>more coach stuff later. Take quick break, answer some listener questions. Next,

0:59:42.600 --> 0:59:43.000
<v Speaker 3>What's right?

0:59:48.680 --> 0:59:51.560
<v Speaker 2>What's right with Nick Wright? Episode to ninety two, Demonse,

0:59:51.760 --> 0:59:54.480
<v Speaker 2>Let's get to a few listener questions.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh, Nick, with the twelve college football playoffs and the

0:59:57.520 --> 0:59:59.560
<v Speaker 5>and the decline in the NBA, do you think the

0:59:59.640 --> 1:00:02.480
<v Speaker 5>college football will be the defensive number two sport and

1:00:02.560 --> 1:00:06.240
<v Speaker 5>the country. Given the definitive the definitive number two sport

1:00:06.280 --> 1:00:08.760
<v Speaker 5>in the country given the public way more way more

1:00:08.800 --> 1:00:09.919
<v Speaker 5>exposure to young talent.

1:00:09.960 --> 1:00:14.040
<v Speaker 3>For the NFL, well, listen, I think ratings wise, college

1:00:14.040 --> 1:00:17.600
<v Speaker 3>football's probably already ahead of the NBA here is I

1:00:17.640 --> 1:00:21.560
<v Speaker 3>think oddly the I mean, football is just more popular

1:00:21.560 --> 1:00:22.640
<v Speaker 3>in its country than basketball.

1:00:23.040 --> 1:00:23.480
<v Speaker 2>Oddly.

1:00:23.560 --> 1:00:28.800
<v Speaker 3>What hurts college football on shows like mine is that

1:00:29.440 --> 1:00:32.960
<v Speaker 3>they play on Saturdays. In the NFL plays on Sundays,

1:00:32.960 --> 1:00:37.000
<v Speaker 3>so Mondays. We're talking in NFL. So like people watch

1:00:37.120 --> 1:00:41.600
<v Speaker 3>the games, but it doesn't generate as much discussion as

1:00:42.080 --> 1:00:46.920
<v Speaker 3>you know on unless shows are directly dedicated to college football.

1:00:47.680 --> 1:00:50.840
<v Speaker 5>All right, next, Grayson, am I the only one in

1:00:50.880 --> 1:00:53.840
<v Speaker 5>America who can remember who remembers the Ravens Bills game

1:00:53.920 --> 1:00:56.160
<v Speaker 5>already happened. A lot of people think this will be

1:00:56.160 --> 1:00:58.680
<v Speaker 5>the close the Ravens. Why will people think this will

1:00:58.720 --> 1:01:00.960
<v Speaker 5>be the close The Ravens won by twenty five. Home

1:01:01.000 --> 1:01:02.360
<v Speaker 5>field is not worth twenty five.

1:01:03.640 --> 1:01:07.360
<v Speaker 2>Well, listen, it's because that game was three months ago.

1:01:08.000 --> 1:01:11.200
<v Speaker 3>That's why I mean. And there's plenty of instances of

1:01:11.240 --> 1:01:14.320
<v Speaker 3>a team getting beat by a team in the regular

1:01:14.360 --> 1:01:15.920
<v Speaker 3>season and beat him in the playoffs.

1:01:16.080 --> 1:01:17.240
<v Speaker 2>See the Chiefs Bills.

1:01:17.320 --> 1:01:20.080
<v Speaker 3>Every year in the playoffs, or the Chiefs Bengals in

1:01:20.080 --> 1:01:21.920
<v Speaker 3>the playoffs a couple of years ago like that.

1:01:22.200 --> 1:01:23.120
<v Speaker 4>So I.

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<v Speaker 3>I just I don't think that is proper analysis, so

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<v Speaker 3>to speak. I think a Week four game is it

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<v Speaker 3>has some bearing, But I don't think we're gonna see

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<v Speaker 3>a thirty five to ten beat down in the other

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<v Speaker 3>direction in this game.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Next.

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<v Speaker 5>Brandon, question for Nick is Stafford's best NBA comp Jimmy Butler?

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, he's good in the regular season, but flips

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<v Speaker 5>the switch to elite level come playoff time.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's an interesting one. I Stafford's had some

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<v Speaker 3>great regular what's odd is in Detroit, he had some

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<v Speaker 3>great regular season, but they rarely made the playoffs. But

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<v Speaker 3>when they did make the playoffs, he wasn't great. He

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<v Speaker 3>was good, but not great, except for I think he

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<v Speaker 3>had one terrible playoff game in Detroit.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know that there is an NBA comp that

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<v Speaker 3>comes to mind. He's just he and McVeigh have been

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<v Speaker 3>unreal together in the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 2>All right. Last one, CJD.

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<v Speaker 5>If the Bears hire a guy like David Shaw or

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<v Speaker 5>Matt Campbell, should Caleb ask out?

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<v Speaker 2>Well?

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<v Speaker 3>Listen, Caleb's not gonna ask out, but I will say this,

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<v Speaker 3>I would be nonplused if they hired Matt Campbell because

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know who Matt Campbell is.

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<v Speaker 2>So like I gotta on Google. Oh the Iowa State coach.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, no, yeah, I mean I would not like them

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<v Speaker 3>to hire a college coach. I will tell you that,

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<v Speaker 3>like a college coach, I would not be thrilled if

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<v Speaker 3>that's the direction the Bills go. All right, best weekend

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