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Speaker 2: Welcome Man, What'll Driving the Great?

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Speaker 3: Episode two ninety two on a Tuesday, leading into what

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Speaker 3: I think is the single best sports weekend of the year.

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Speaker 3: NFL Divisional Round weekend is my a favorite forty eight

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Speaker 3: hours in sports all year, four games, almost almost always

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Speaker 3: at least six of the best eight teams, very often

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Speaker 3: seven of the best eight teams. And this year we

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Speaker 3: might have gone well, no, we didn't go eight for eight,

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Speaker 3: have done, as far as going four for four in

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Speaker 3: each conference where we certainly have the three best in

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Speaker 3: each conference. Still remaining and then depending on what you

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Speaker 3: think of the Texans versus the field and the Commanders

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Speaker 2: But we should have two.

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Speaker 3: Unbelievable games in Bill's Ravens and in Rams Eagles, and

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Speaker 3: Lions Commanders. So I can't wait for that. However, Thursday's

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Speaker 3: show will be when we preview those games. Today's show

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Speaker 3: will be more about recapping the six games we saw

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Speaker 3: this weekend, so quickly what missed the cut that is

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Speaker 3: not in today's show. We are not discussing the National

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Speaker 3: Championship game in today's show. We will do a little

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Speaker 3: bit about on that on Thursday. Leangelo Ball signing with

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Speaker 3: def JAM this is something we will not be discussing that.

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Speaker 3: I simply do not have as much interest in this

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Speaker 3: story as some of my colleagues and AJ Brown reading

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Speaker 3: the show at some point when we talk Eagles, partially

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Speaker 3: because I want to talk Eagles, but also partially because

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Speaker 3: nothing bothers me more than someone acting like I'm dumb.

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Speaker 3: then just act like I'm an idiot and aj Brown

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Speaker 3: problem here? While holding a giant sign above his head

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Speaker 3: that says talk to me. I want to be the

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Speaker 3: and from the look on my son's face seems like

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Speaker 3: you pal with last night's game. Well, I'll let you

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So you've been praising the Rams all year and

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Speaker 5: they took care of business last night in dominant fashion.

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Speaker 5: Would you attribute that to the Rams or is that

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Speaker 5: more of a Sam Donald meltdown type of thing.

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Speaker 3: So, sadly, we got to start with Donald and this

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Speaker 2: If I play great.

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Speaker 3: And now, can any team in the league that actually

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Speaker 2: And they were really truly.

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Speaker 3: Awful performances last night, Demons. Last night, he was worse

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Speaker 5: Every drive that just kind of ruined, ruined what they

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Speaker 3: I didn't think Kevin O'Connell covered himself in glory last night.

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Speaker 3: But a Vikings offense that from before Thanksgiving demons. Here's

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Speaker 5: And do you think that there's anything significant that happened

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Speaker 5: them flame out like that, or would you say that

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Speaker 5: they were frauds the entire time?

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Speaker 2: No, well, no, it's not that they were frauds the

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Speaker 4: To take a little bit of a little bit of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's but they lost Christian darrisaw months maybe

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Speaker 2: They know what I what I think is and people

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Speaker 3: The offensive line wasn't great yesterday, and the Lions are

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Speaker 3: more about them in a moment. How in what high

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Speaker 3: That's the problem. But it's not that they were frauds

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Speaker 2: It's that.

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Speaker 3: The Vikings being this team was built on a foundation

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Speaker 3: of we're getting excellent quarterback play guys, thirty five touchdowns,

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Speaker 3: than let's say the Bills this weekend get rocked because

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Speaker 3: That won't mean they were frauds. It would mean they

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Speaker 3: But you don't see what I'm saying. They are a

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Speaker 3: That's what the that's what football is. It's a small

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Speaker 2: And Buck who I don't know Troy at all. But

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Speaker 2: I know Joe.

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Speaker 3: It would be a stretch to say we're friends, but

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Speaker 3: Like my point is we don't know each other well

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Speaker 3: And I love I've always love them as a crew.

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Speaker 2: Call it as we see it. And I think that.

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Speaker 5: H Yeah, So the Rams they opened up at six

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Speaker 4: Is there something Vegas is onto? What are they thinking that?

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Speaker 5: No, I think Philly is gonna have a lot of trouble,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So Baltimore destroyed Pittsburgh from start to finish. Lamar

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Speaker 5: Do you need to see more from him?

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Speaker 4: More? Do you need to see from him?

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Speaker 3: So, I in order for me to be like Yep,

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Speaker 3: Take that to be Lamar last year where he had

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Speaker 2: What he has to do.

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Speaker 3: What is income been on Lamar as he's just first

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Speaker 3: That's not what it is. It is not flatly super

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Speaker 2: But that's where that's where I stand on it.

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Speaker 3: And the reason I'm gonna keep hammering the Peyton Manning

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Speaker 3: He doesn't get over this, he'll still likely become a

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Speaker 3: As the greatest quarterbacks we've ever seen, other than the

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Speaker 3: nothing on Buffalo and then Buffalo score thirty one straight.

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00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 3: The previous format where the one and the two seeds

439
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 3: gotta buy was better. Buffalo like nothing against Josh Allen,

440
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 3: but everybody talks about these Josh Allen playoff stats. The

441
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 3: man has built an impire on being the two seed

442
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 3: and just absolutely crushing the the seventh seed that shouldn't

443
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 3: be in the playoffs, and like the joh, let me.

444
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 2: Pull it off.

445
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 3: I mean, and and so he's never had the bye,

446
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 3: he being Josh Allen because they've never been the one

447
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 3: seed and the team wasn't good, so Lamar had the bye.

448
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 2: Well it shouldn't. It's not The step padding is a

449
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 2: little unfair because.

450
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 4: He just gets thrown into the game.

451
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 5: You play who you play, obviously, but it's like congratulations,

452
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 5: you get to beat up on these guys in the postseason.

453
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 3: And it's been it's just been he they have been

454
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 3: the Have they been the two seed?

455
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 2: No, the Chiefs were the two seed one of those years. Oh,

456
00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 2: when the Ravens were the.

457
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 3: One but Josh Allen in the wildcard round now as

458
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 3: fifteen touchdowns, two picks and a one fifteen rating, and

459
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 3: four of those times under the old format, they would

460
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 3: have had the bye. And so the other thing about

461
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 3: having the about the old format, we would have had

462
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 3: a way more exciting to me playoff race, like Denver

463
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 3: falling apart at the end of the year and those

464
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 3: two straight losses should have knocked him out of the playoffs.

465
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 3: It's one of the reasons why I have so little

466
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 3: sympathy for the Bengals. Bengals fans are like, oh, don't

467
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 3: let us in, guys, you wore the eight seed. You

468
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 3: finished as the eight seed. There's only sixteen teams in

469
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 3: the conference, like there should be a pretty good team

470
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 3: that gets left out. And the Packers at the very

471
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 3: end of the year and Washington it to me. Instead

472
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 3: of both of them being like, ah, this week eighteen

473
00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 3: game doesn't matter, it should have been like, oh shit,

474
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 3: we've had an awesome season. We might miss the playoffs.

475
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 3: And so I just like the old format better and

476
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 3: I just think it is now it hugely benefits the

477
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 3: Chiefs this year, and so the Chiefs being the one

478
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 3: seed like, think about if you're Buffalo.

479
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 2: You're Buffalo. You had.

480
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 3: The second best record in the conference easily. You were

481
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 3: alive for the one seed until Christmas, and your reward

482
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 3: is what you got to play around one game and

483
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 3: then you know, you get ready to host Baltimore in

484
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 3: what will be an absolute war as opposed to what

485
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 3: it could have been of Hey, Buffalo, you were excellent

486
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 3: this year start to finish. Baltimore finished incredibly strong, but

487
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 3: obviously had those hiccups early in the year. The punishment

488
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 3: for that is Baltimore is coming off a game and

489
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 3: Buffalo's fully rested getting ready for Baltimore. So I just

490
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 3: I think Philly did not need to play this weekend

491
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 3: and Buffalo didn't need to play this weekend. Now, my

492
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 3: other takeaway from that game, to be honest, is I

493
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 3: just really do think Josh Allen was the league's MVP

494
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 3: this year. There's nothing against Lamar, but I and I

495
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 3: know the regular season the postseason doesn't count, but that

496
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 3: Bill's offense seemed borderline unstoppable against a great defense, and

497
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 3: they have an awesome offensive line and James Cook's really good,

498
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 3: but it's all predicated on Josh.

499
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 2: Now, you can say the same thing about Lamar. I

500
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 2: get it.

501
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 3: But the Derrick Henry in his nineteen hundred yards was

502
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 3: a big factor there too. But that game went the

503
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 3: way anyone who watched football this year knew it was

504
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 3: gonna go, which is Buffalo was going to annihilate a

505
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 3: Broncos team that is not ready for the postseason.

506
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:12,720
Speaker 2: Just wasn't go ahead.

507
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 5: It looks like you James Cook might not be as

508
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 5: big of a help as Derrick Henry.

509
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 4: But he's certainly he's actually certainly. Oh yeah. It takes

510
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 4: a little bit of weight off the shoulders of Josh.

511
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 3: Allen, no doubt about it. And he's an underrated player.

512
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 3: And the Bills offensive line is superb. That's the most

513
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 3: underrated part of their team. Uh do you have a

514
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 3: follow up before we get to Jaden?

515
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 4: Uh?

516
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, So Josh, Josh Allen was over there having a

517
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 5: convo with the refs.

518
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 4: What do you think about that?

519
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 3: So listen, here's Josh Allen was not having a conversation

520
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 3: with the refs. The refs were having a conversation with

521
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 3: Josh Allen, and that is an important distinction.

522
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 2: And so John like.

523
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 3: The ref coming over to the sideline and you know,

524
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 3: making sure Josh Allen was not mad at him and like,

525
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 3: oh sorry, I missed it, We'll do better next time.

526
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 3: To me, is kind of embarrassing and I've never seen

527
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 3: anything like it, and I'm not gonna make the biggest

528
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 3: deal in the world out of it, but I am

529
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 3: going to make this point, which is.

530
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 2: Josh Allen.

531
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:43,240
Speaker 3: Gets the treatment from the refs that people pretend Patrick

532
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 3: Mahomes gets and it's a frustrating dynamic. Dynamic Okay, So,

533
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,399
Speaker 3: since since coming into the league, who has the most

534
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 3: roughing the passer calls of anyone?

535
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 2: By a mile?

536
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 3: Josh Allen Mahomes is middle of the pack the whether

537
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 3: you do it per attempt or per game. Josh Allen

538
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 3: gets point three to two roughing the passer penalty is

539
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 3: a game, which is the most of any quarterback, so

540
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 3: one in every three games he gets roughing the passer penalty.

541
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes is at point two to three, which is

542
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 3: less than Baker Mayfield. If you do it per one

543
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 3: thousand attempts the or let me try to see if

544
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 3: I can get this. Yeah, if I get this number right,

545
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 3: see where Josh Allen is on this. It's point nine

546
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,439
Speaker 3: per No, that's not right. I have this stat wrong.

547
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 3: I apologize, but oh, per one hundred attempts, per a

548
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 3: thousand attempts, this guy doesn't make any sense at all.

549
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 3: He's way up there compared to these other guys. Furthermore,

550
00:37:56,600 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 3: the Chiefs lost a playoff game in over time and

551
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 3: never got the ball to go to the super Bowl,

552
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 3: and the general reaction after a Brady Mahomes classic where

553
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:13,760
Speaker 3: Mahomes had three separate fourth quarter comebacks and then lost

554
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 3: and then got the ball with thirty seconds left led

555
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 3: him to a game tying field goal, never saw the

556
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 3: ball again. The Patriots scored a touchdown, go to the

557
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 3: super Bowl. Everyone's reaction was, those are the rules? Shut up.

558
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 3: The Bills lost a playoff game to the Chiefs not

559
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 3: to go to the Super Bowl, to go to the

560
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:35,919
Speaker 3: AFC Championship game in a classic when they never got

561
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 3: the ball and the NFL instantly changed the rules. The

562
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 3: Chiefs last year got absolutely hosed on a game losing

563
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 3: call on pass interference in the game we watched at

564
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 3: Wayne's house Demanse against the Packers. Everyone's reaction was, get

565
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 3: over it. The Bills get kind of hosed on a

566
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 3: miss holding all in the end zone get a field

567
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 3: goal anyway, and the ref comes over to the sideline

568
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:08,399
Speaker 3: and apologizes, I'm not a conspiracy theorist, and I don't

569
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 3: think there's any conspiracy there. But everyone in the world

570
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:19,320
Speaker 3: knows that if a referee, the head referee was at

571
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 3: the chief's bench put saying to Mahomes, patting his chest,

572
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,800
Speaker 3: saying my bad, and then tapping him on the head,

573
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 3: it would be memed into the the atmosphere. And so

574
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 3: it You know, sometimes the reality of a situation is

575
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 3: not what you wish it was, but it is. And

576
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 3: so it's just oh and it's just a little frustrating,

577
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 3: so to speak. But whatever, I don't really care that much,

578
00:39:58,080 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 3: and so.

579
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 2: Is what it is. All right, we can move on.

580
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 5: So Jade and Daniels went in there, knocked Baker Mayfield

581
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 5: out of the playoffs. This sky is really impressive. So

582
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 5: he obviously advances, Are you finally willing to admit that

583
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,800
Speaker 5: he was the better quarterback in Kleb Williams draft class?

584
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 4: That guy you were saying it was gonna go to.

585
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 3: The Okay, Well see that's that that's a bridge too far.

586
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 3: He has certainly had a better rookie season. I mean

587
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 3: that's not that's not arguable, and win offensive Rookie the

588
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 3: Year and win a playoff game for a quarterback Big Ben, CJ. Stroud, Jade,

589
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 3: and Daniels. That's the list. And Jayden's clutch performances have

590
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 3: been spectacular, spectacular. So many of these wins come down

591
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 3: to the final minute, they're trailing, they or they're tied, whatever,

592
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 3: it is so great and he makes the plays I do.

593
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:05,879
Speaker 3: I want the record to reflect that the entirety of

594
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,919
Speaker 3: why I liked Drake May forget Caleb because I think

595
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,280
Speaker 3: Caleb is going to be a superstar, like we're gonna

596
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 3: we will wait and see if I'm right or wrong

597
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 3: about Caleb. But I also was not in the minority

598
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 3: in saying Caleb is the best quarterback in this draft

599
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 3: class where people can come after me on Jaden is.

600
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 3: I liked Drake May more than Jaden and part of

601
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 3: that was an age thing, But the real reason was

602
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 3: my concern that Jaden Daniels and his frame is not

603
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 3: going to be able to take NFL punishment, that the

604
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 3: verdict will not be in on that for a couple years.

605
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 3: It was never that I thought he wasn't talented. I

606
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,359
Speaker 3: thought he wouldn't be good, and I do think it's

607
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 3: noteworthy for whatever it's worth that the listen, this Washington team,

608
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 3: which now has thirteen wins. The only time all year

609
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 3: they didn't look great was right after he got his

610
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 3: ribs cracked and he was banged up. And so no,

611
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 3: this is an all time rookie season by him. And

612
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 3: I'll say something else that's positive for Commanders fans. He

613
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 3: becomes the fourth rookie quarterback ever to win a road

614
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 3: playoff game. Now, the other guys on the list, two

615
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 3: of them were not great quarterbacks. But what's positive about

616
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 3: it is what they did next. Mark Sanchez did it,

617
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 3: went on the road and won a playoff game, and

618
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 3: then also went on the road the next round and

619
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:50,720
Speaker 3: won a playoff game and showed up in the AFC

620
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:55,919
Speaker 3: Championship game. Joe Flacco did it, went on the road

621
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 3: and won a playoff game, and then also the next

622
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 3: round went on the road and won a playoff game

623
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 3: and showed up in the AFC Championship game. Russell Wilson

624
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 3: did it, and then the next round executed a twenty

625
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 3: plus point comeback to take a one point lead with

626
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,919
Speaker 3: thirty seconds left to go to the NFC Championship game.

627
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 3: And then Matt Ryan and the Falcons gotten field goal

628
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 3: range kicked a game winning field goal and they went to.

629
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 2: The NFC Championship game.

630
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 3: So the point I'm meaning is this rookie quarterbacks that

631
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 3: win road playoff game. Small sample, but two of the

632
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 3: three then pulled off another upset the next round, and

633
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 3: the one that didn't had a lead with five seconds

634
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 3: left and lost on a field goal at the gun.

635
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 3: So this is spectacular by Jaden. The flip side of

636
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 3: that game is man Tampa's. This is the NFL is

637
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 3: great rookies in the playoffs.

638
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 2: You're always a little nervous.

639
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 3: And Tampa has the lead and has the ball and

640
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 3: either their rookie center snaps it late or their rookie

641
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 3: wide receiver started his motion early and the timing handoff

642
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 3: on that jet sweep is not there and they fumble,

643
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:29,280
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden they're trailing. A few minutes later,

644
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 3: they have third inches and the rookie center definitively snaps

645
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 3: it too early. The team's not ready, They have to

646
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 3: settle for a field goal and they lose. The Commander's

647
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 3: rookie quarterback was unbelievable. The Bucks rookie center had a

648
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 3: couple tough moments, and it might have cost him the

649
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 3: game because I thought Tampa was gonna go score a

650
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 3: touchdown there. Now, maybe Demon's Jayden then still drives him down,

651
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 3: score touchdown, they win. But I thought Baker, Baker was

652
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 3: fifteen of eighteen. Yeah, Tampa, only Baker played well. They

653
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 3: never had the ball. Tampa ran forty four offensive plays.

654
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 3: They just never had the ball. And so I listen,

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Speaker 3: I thought Baker, you know, handled himself quite well. Jaden's

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Speaker 3: team and Jayden, you know, Jaden played better and the

657
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Speaker 3: Commanders played better, and shout out to them. One guy

658
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Speaker 3: who did not handle himself well was Justin Herbert. We'll

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Speaker 3: discuss that next quick break. Right back, what's right? All right,

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Speaker 3: welcome back in. We'll right with Nick Wright, episode two

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Speaker 3: ninety two. All right, demonsie, let's talk some Justin Herbert.

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Speaker 2: By the way, that was a long a.

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Speaker 3: Block forty five minutes or so. Let's talk some Justin

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Speaker 3: Herbert before we get to our game.

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Speaker 5: So, yeah, Justin Herbert had a rough game against the Texans.

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Speaker 5: He's now responsible for two of the biggest playoff note

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Speaker 5: down in a recent memory, but the Internet is still

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Speaker 5: defending him. Why has the discourse surrounding Justin Herbert always

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Speaker 5: been so weird and confusing?

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's not confusing to me at all. He's

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Speaker 3: super talented guy who's underachieved. I so I tweeted about

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Speaker 3: an article that I read right after the game by

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Speaker 3: Connor Orr, who I think does a really good job.

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Speaker 3: And I was probably a little harsh in my tweet,

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Speaker 3: and I you know, I feel badly about that, but

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Speaker 3: it just felt to me like this level of excuse

677
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Speaker 3: making for one of the highest paid, most highly regarded

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Speaker 3: players in the league's ridiculous. So the headline from Connor's

679
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Speaker 3: article was, this wasn't a Justin Herbert meltdown. This was

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Speaker 3: a quarterback meeting the hard sealing limitations of his roster.

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Speaker 3: And everyone understands that the Charger's not a perfect team.

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Speaker 3: They only have one receiver really that you trust, the

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Speaker 3: inside it The interior of their offensive line isn't great.

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Speaker 3: But guess what, man, once you're out of the rookie

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Speaker 3: salary scale, never gonna have a perfect roster. Sorry, just not.

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Speaker 3: And if you do, it'll be for a very very

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Speaker 3: brief period of time, and you'd be like, well, they

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Speaker 3: need to get better receivers and interior offensive linement. Okay,

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Speaker 3: well that's gonna come at a cost. Your left tackle

690
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Speaker 3: is one of the best in football. Your right tackle

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Speaker 3: you took in the top ten. You've tried to address

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Speaker 3: the receiver. Drafted Quentin Johnson the first round miss on

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Speaker 3: that pick. I guess drafted lad McConkey very very beginning

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Speaker 3: of round two. But you also have the number one

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Speaker 3: defense in football and a universally regarded great head coach.

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Speaker 3: So you're not in disastrous shape. And my frustration about

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Speaker 3: the Herbert stuff right after this game was justin Herbert

698
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Speaker 3: had one one argument that he had a great season

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Speaker 3: only through three picks. The rest of his numbers were

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Speaker 3: not that good. The advanced numbers or the regular numbers

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Speaker 3: were not that good. But what he did was the

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Speaker 3: argument was excellent coach, great defense, don't turn the ball over,

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Speaker 3: we'll win games.

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Speaker 2: Got it awesome?

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Speaker 3: Fine, but then you can't literally have more picks in

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Speaker 3: the one playoff game than you had all season.

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Speaker 2: That's obvious.

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Speaker 3: And I understand the third interception was not on him,

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Speaker 3: but the first two interceptions are what lost them the

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Speaker 3: game because the Texans were playing terribly. The Texans were

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Speaker 3: not ready. The Texans looked like they looked leading into

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Speaker 3: the playoffs, like the worst team in the tournament. Texans

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Speaker 3: opening drive, first play, fumble, Texans second drive, three and out,

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Speaker 3: Texans next drive, five and out. At that point, you

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Speaker 3: need to be up more than six nothing, but they weren't,

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Speaker 3: so be it. Texans next drive interception just a horrific

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Speaker 3: throw by CJ.

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Speaker 2: Stroud.

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Speaker 3: In that moment, the Texans have run one three. Let

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Speaker 3: me get sorry, I want to get this exactly right.

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Speaker 3: In that moment, the Texans have run twelve plays, they

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Speaker 3: have turned the ball over twice, and they have forty

723
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Speaker 3: yards of offense. Okay, that's who they were playing. All

724
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Speaker 3: you need to do is not screw it up. And

725
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Speaker 3: Herbert throws across his body one hash to the other

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Speaker 3: to unreliable and Johnson in double coverage and he gets picked.

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Speaker 3: That is just an unfathomably bad mistake. Unbelievably, the Texans

728
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Speaker 3: make nothing of it, go four and out, and then

729
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Speaker 3: the Chargers once again do nothing. So you've had six

730
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Speaker 3: opportunities to blow this game open. You're up six to nothing.

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Speaker 3: The Texans then have that crazy third and sixteen play

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Speaker 3: leads to a touchdown, and all of a sudden you're trailing.

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Speaker 3: You get the ball back demonse with a minute left

734
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Speaker 3: on your own thirty down seven to six, mileven verse half,

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Speaker 3: and not only do you not get points the Texans do.

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Speaker 2: You got the ball a.

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Speaker 3: Minute left on your own thirty down seven to six.

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Speaker 3: You went to halftime down ten to six. Should have

739
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Speaker 3: gone to halftime up nine to seven. But again, the

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Speaker 3: game's not over. The Texans on the opening drive of

741
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Speaker 3: the second half fumble, you get the ball down four

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Speaker 3: and on fourth and two throw short of the sticks.

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Speaker 3: But even after that, the game's not over. The Texans

744
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Speaker 3: only get a field goal. You then immediately go three

745
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Speaker 3: and out, but after that the game's not over. The

746
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Speaker 3: Texans go three and out. You have the ball down seven.

747
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Speaker 3: The Texans are playing an F game, and somehow you're

748
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Speaker 3: only down seven because you're playing an F minus game.

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Speaker 2: And you throw a pick.

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Speaker 3: Six, So I don't give a about the third pick

751
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Speaker 3: not being his fault. That it was a playoff game,

752
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Speaker 3: ripe for the taking, and you had your worst game

753
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Speaker 3: of the year and the last time you were in

754
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Speaker 3: the playoffs, you were up twenty seven to nothing and

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Speaker 3: didn't make a single play the rest of the game.

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Speaker 2: And the other time.

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Speaker 3: You were in a playoff like Atmosphere Week eighteen, win

758
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Speaker 3: or tie and you're in what did you do in

759
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Speaker 3: that spot? You didn't do anything until your team was

760
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Speaker 3: found itself trailing twenty nine to fourteen in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 3: He had a furious rally and found a way to

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Speaker 3: lose to Derek Carr. And so, I, I'm just half

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Speaker 3: decade into your career. It's not about your arm talent anymore.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 3: And here's here's the too long didn't read my version

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Speaker 3: of my take on Herbert. If Justin Herbert had Baker

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Speaker 3: Mayfield's intangibles, we would have a real discussion about who

768
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Speaker 3: the best quarterback.

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Speaker 2: In football is him or Mahomes.

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Speaker 3: Justin Herbert's physical stature, and talent and how pretty throws

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Speaker 3: the football, all of it. If you add to it

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Speaker 3: that extra stuff Baker has, you have one of the

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Speaker 3: greatest players ever. And the flip side to that coin

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Speaker 3: is this, If Baker Mayfield, at his size and talent level,

775
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Speaker 3: had Justin Herbert's intangibles, he wouldn't have played college football,

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Speaker 3: and so, like I the book is not written.

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Speaker 2: But five years were a few chapters in.

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Speaker 3: And forty one and forty in your career and own

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Speaker 3: three with three bad games in your two playoff games

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Speaker 3: and one playoff adjacent game.

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Speaker 2: So that's that's what it is.

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Speaker 5: You said that Lamar might be a chronic playoff choker

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Speaker 5: and but he'll still eventually get a Super Bowl win.

784
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Speaker 5: Would you put Herbert in that same category or.

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Speaker 3: Herbert doesn't deserve to be listen, Lamar is now twice

786
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Speaker 3: played well in the playoffs. Lamar is good enough in

787
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Speaker 3: the regular season. He's always in the playoffs when he's healthy. Like, no,

788
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Speaker 3: Herbert's in a totally different tier. Herbert's the super talented.

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Speaker 3: But ah, like no, So that's uh, that would be

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Speaker 3: disrespectful to Lamar to say that that. I know, I mean,

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Speaker 3: he's very talented, but I I at some point, if

792
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Speaker 3: you've got a kid and you're still talking about what

793
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Speaker 3: amazing potential they have and they're thirty two years old,

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Speaker 3: it's like, well, I mean you might not you know,

795
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Speaker 3: that's nice, but you got you gotta put some wins

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Speaker 3: on the board. If you're an NFL quarterback, and you've

797
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Speaker 3: played five years and you're a five hundred quarterback, and

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Speaker 3: you've only made the playoffs twice, and you've had a

799
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Speaker 3: historic collapse in one of the games against an AFC

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Speaker 3: South team no one believed in and threw more picks

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Speaker 3: in one game than you did in the entire season,

802
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Speaker 3: but together in the other one against an AFC South

803
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Speaker 3: team no one believed in, when you were road favorites

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Speaker 3: both times. I mean, it's a tough conversation, just is

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Speaker 3: what it is. All right, let's go to the game. Oh,

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Speaker 3: go ahead, Demonta.

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Speaker 5: Sorry, which AFC team do you think has the best

808
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Speaker 5: chance at the thrown in the chiefs?

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Speaker 2: Oh? The AFC West team crown.

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Speaker 3: None of them?

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Speaker 5: I mean, it would have been the Chargers until this weekend,

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Speaker 5: wouldn't they.

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Speaker 3: Guys, it's no Patrick Mahomes is gonna do what Tom

814
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Speaker 3: Brady did, which is every year he's healthy, he's.

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Speaker 2: Gonna win the division.

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Speaker 3: Brady didn't win the division year, you know, with second

817
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 3: year as a starter, but every other year he was healthy,

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Speaker 3: they won the division. The answer is none of them,

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Speaker 3: None of them. All right, let's play a game real

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Speaker 3: quick before we move on.

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Speaker 4: Yes, we're playing right a wrong today.

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Speaker 5: First off, your Eagles beat down on the Packers and

823
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Speaker 5: are moving on to the divisional round. But once again

824
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Speaker 5: there seems to be frustration from A. J. Brown and

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Speaker 5: Jalen Hurts didn't do too much in the game, right

826
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Speaker 5: or wrong. The Eagles passing game struggles to prevent them

827
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Speaker 5: from reaching the super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: I'd be worried about it.

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Speaker 5: There's well when they have those types of problems, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: I I think you might be right. And listen. I

831
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Speaker 2: don't want.

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Speaker 3: To tune in to First I hate to do this,

833
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Speaker 3: but tune into First Things First today to see how

834
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Speaker 3: I feel about Eagles rams. But that's just this round

835
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Speaker 3: as far as winning the super Bowl. Like, right, listen,

836
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Speaker 3: right now this moment, Jalen Hurts is the weak link.

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Speaker 4: It just is. He just is.

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Speaker 2: On that roster. Jalen Hurts is the weak link.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

840
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know what else we're gonna point to.

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00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 3: AJ Brown is a huge pain in the ass, but

842
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 3: he's awesome. Devontae Smith is really good. Saquan's unbelievable. The

843
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 3: offensive line is great. The defense has been a lead

844
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Speaker 3: all year. I don't know what it is. I don't

845
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Speaker 3: know they're they're they're jackass fans screaming at ladies in

846
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 3: the stands or or or the quarterback. I think right

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Speaker 3: now it's the quarterback, all right.

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Speaker 5: Next, your guy, Baker capped off his best season ever

849
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Speaker 5: with an impressive impressive showing the loss versus Washington, where

850
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 5: he also had the critical mistake, critical mistake that changed

851
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Speaker 5: the game. Right or wrong Baker will play in a

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Speaker 5: super Bowl?

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Speaker 3: I mean you probably have to say wrong. I don't

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Speaker 3: think it's off the board. But if you offered me

855
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 3: an even money bet Baker Mayfield will or won't ever

856
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Speaker 3: play in a super Bowl. Probably smart money's on won't.

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Speaker 3: I like Baker a lot, but like that's super Bowl's

858
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 3: hard man like the now he's Fortunately he's in the

859
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 3: NFC where you know, you don't have to deal with

860
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 3: Mahomes making all of them and you know, and then

861
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Speaker 3: potentially also have to deal with Alan and Lamar.

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Speaker 2: But probably wrong, all right?

863
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Speaker 5: Next, my guy, Jordan Love had a rough season versus

864
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Speaker 5: the top dogs of the NFC. I went oh and

865
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Speaker 5: six versus versus Detroit, Minnesota and Philly.

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Speaker 2: Right or wrong?

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Speaker 4: The Packers over paide Jordan Love. That's what it was.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm not ready to say that, but I mean

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Speaker 3: the Packers weren't ready to.

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Speaker 2: Play with the big boys this year. Owen SI, like

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Speaker 2: Owen six is crazy.

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Speaker 5: I mean just kind of started at least started off behind.

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Speaker 5: It's just like you just kept trying to play catch up.

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Speaker 5: And like the injuries throughout the season, I feel like

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Speaker 5: they never had it had a complete team.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 4: Obviously you're never going to have a complete team.

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Speaker 3: But no, but the quarterback got hurt in week one,

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Speaker 3: that you know what I mean? Like, No, I think

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Speaker 3: that's I think that's a fair point.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to talk Tom Leiner McCarthy here. The

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Speaker 3: show's gone too long already, and I want to be

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Speaker 3: able to get some listener questions. We may be talking

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Speaker 3: more coach stuff later. Take quick break, answer some listener questions. Next,

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Speaker 3: What's right?

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Speaker 2: What's right with Nick Wright? Episode to ninety two, Demonse,

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Speaker 2: Let's get to a few listener questions.

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Speaker 5: Uh, Nick, with the twelve college football playoffs and the

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Speaker 5: and the decline in the NBA, do you think the

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Speaker 5: college football will be the defensive number two sport and

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Speaker 5: the country. Given the definitive the definitive number two sport

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Speaker 5: in the country given the public way more way more

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Speaker 5: exposure to young talent.

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Speaker 3: For the NFL, well, listen, I think ratings wise, college

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Speaker 3: football's probably already ahead of the NBA here is I

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Speaker 3: think oddly the I mean, football is just more popular

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Speaker 3: in its country than basketball.

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Speaker 2: Oddly.

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Speaker 3: What hurts college football on shows like mine is that

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Speaker 3: they play on Saturdays. In the NFL plays on Sundays,

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Speaker 3: so Mondays. We're talking in NFL. So like people watch

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Speaker 3: the games, but it doesn't generate as much discussion as

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Speaker 3: you know on unless shows are directly dedicated to college football.

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Speaker 5: All right, next, Grayson, am I the only one in

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Speaker 5: America who can remember who remembers the Ravens Bills game

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Speaker 5: already happened. A lot of people think this will be

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Speaker 5: the close the Ravens. Why will people think this will

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Speaker 5: be the close The Ravens won by twenty five. Home

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Speaker 5: field is not worth twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Well, listen, it's because that game was three months ago.

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Speaker 3: That's why I mean. And there's plenty of instances of

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Speaker 3: a team getting beat by a team in the regular

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Speaker 3: season and beat him in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: See the Chiefs Bills.

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Speaker 3: Every year in the playoffs, or the Chiefs Bengals in

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Speaker 3: the playoffs a couple of years ago like that.

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Speaker 4: So I.

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Speaker 3: I just I don't think that is proper analysis, so

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Speaker 3: to speak. I think a Week four game is it

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Speaker 3: has some bearing, But I don't think we're gonna see

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Speaker 3: a thirty five to ten beat down in the other

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Speaker 3: direction in this game.

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Speaker 2: All right, Next.

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Speaker 5: Brandon, question for Nick is Stafford's best NBA comp Jimmy Butler?

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Speaker 5: I mean, he's good in the regular season, but flips

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Speaker 5: the switch to elite level come playoff time.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's an interesting one. I Stafford's had some

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Speaker 3: great regular what's odd is in Detroit, he had some

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Speaker 3: great regular season, but they rarely made the playoffs. But

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Speaker 3: when they did make the playoffs, he wasn't great. He

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Speaker 3: was good, but not great, except for I think he

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Speaker 3: had one terrible playoff game in Detroit.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 3: I don't know that there is an NBA comp that

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Speaker 3: comes to mind. He's just he and McVeigh have been

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Speaker 3: unreal together in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: All right. Last one, CJD.

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Speaker 5: If the Bears hire a guy like David Shaw or

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Speaker 5: Matt Campbell, should Caleb ask out?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 3: Listen, Caleb's not gonna ask out, but I will say this,

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Speaker 3: I would be nonplused if they hired Matt Campbell because

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Speaker 3: I don't know who Matt Campbell is.

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Speaker 2: So like I gotta on Google. Oh the Iowa State coach.

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Speaker 3: Okay, no, yeah, I mean I would not like them

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Speaker 3: to hire a college coach. I will tell you that,

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Speaker 3: like a college coach, I would not be thrilled if

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Speaker 3: that's the direction the Bills go. All right, best weekend

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Speaker 3: in sports coming up. I'll see you guys on Collins

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Speaker 3: Show in ninety minutes. See you on First Things First.

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Speaker 2: And Brew don't even know about.

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Speaker 3: So not right off the top of the show, but

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