WEBVTT - LISTEN | Jets Free Agency Update - Ep. 4 (3/20)

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to another edition of the Official Jet Podcast, powered

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<v Speaker 1>by Amazon Web Services. On today's episode, we're gonna talk

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<v Speaker 1>all things Jets. So the Jets have reportedly made a

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<v Speaker 1>couple moves on both sides of the ball, but today

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<v Speaker 1>we're focusing on the offense, and the Jets have supposedly

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<v Speaker 1>signed three offensive lineman. But Eric Allen and myself gonna

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<v Speaker 1>digest and take a look at the entire roster where

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<v Speaker 1>things stand, who they've added they meaning the Jets, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>and where the Jets could potentially and who they could

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<v Speaker 1>potentially add as free agency continues on here. But first

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<v Speaker 1>things first, he a welcome back to the podcast, and

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<v Speaker 1>yeah you too, uh, like I said yesterday, and like

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<v Speaker 1>you said, this is kind of like the nirvana, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>cooped up in the house all day and now we

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<v Speaker 1>finally get a chance to talk some football and actually

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<v Speaker 1>some NFL news non related to the players. Sean Payton

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<v Speaker 1>is the first coach or first real uh NFL executive

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<v Speaker 1>to test positive for the coronavirus, and that just goes

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<v Speaker 1>to show that everyone has to do their part to

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<v Speaker 1>stay in their home, to keep washing your hands and

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<v Speaker 1>doing everything they can to make sure that this virus

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<v Speaker 1>gets curbed. Listen, this is an impact in everybody in

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<v Speaker 1>the world right now, and it's hit the United States

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<v Speaker 1>and full force. Uh, we're seeing more people. Um, the

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<v Speaker 1>numbers get bigger by the day because there are more

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<v Speaker 1>test kits and we all got to take care of

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<v Speaker 1>each other out there. And that's what Sean Payton said

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<v Speaker 1>that this deal is serious. Fortunately for the Saints head

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<v Speaker 1>coach Greens, it seems like his symptoms are minor and

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna return and he's gonna be okay. But with

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<v Speaker 1>all that being said, there are they're people who are

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<v Speaker 1>dying right now, and I just want to say. The

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<v Speaker 1>other thing is, um, we gotta applaud all the people

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<v Speaker 1>are working in the medical field right now, whether it

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<v Speaker 1>be nurses or doctors and everything they do each day,

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<v Speaker 1>especially with the pressure right now, because um, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people going to the hospital. There's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people on fear right now, and I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to say that, uh, um, you know, we are fortunate

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<v Speaker 1>that we have so many people in this country looking

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<v Speaker 1>out for each other. Um. So unfortunate news for Peyton,

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<v Speaker 1>but on the positive side of the ledger, he's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be okay, and hopefully everybody out there who is a

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<v Speaker 1>Jets fan and an NFL fan is doing okay. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get through this. Very well said, and let's take this.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's focus on some Jets football, hopefully providing some light

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<v Speaker 1>to Jets fans here and some sort of levity as

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<v Speaker 1>we're all quarantined in our respective homes. So the Jets

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<v Speaker 1>have reportedly made three offensive line was and we see

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<v Speaker 1>it reportedly because the NFL teams can't technically officially do anything.

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<v Speaker 1>So reportedly, the Jets have signed George Fan, re signed

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<v Speaker 1>Alex Lewis, and signed connorra Governed, which really solidifies the

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<v Speaker 1>left side of the line, assuming George and is the

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<v Speaker 1>left tackle and not right tackle, even though he has

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<v Speaker 1>experience at both positions. So let's just take a look

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<v Speaker 1>at the offensive line before we move on to different positions.

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<v Speaker 1>And I forgot to mention off the top that Olivia

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<v Speaker 1>Landa spoke to Bob was Shoes in the radio voice

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<v Speaker 1>of the Jets and talked all things Jets, and so

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<v Speaker 1>let's just start with the offensive line. Last season, the

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<v Speaker 1>unit was ravaged by injuries that had eleven different starters,

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<v Speaker 1>like nine different starting combinations and so many players went

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<v Speaker 1>to I R and battled injuries throughout. But the way

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<v Speaker 1>it stands right now, I would assume left to right

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<v Speaker 1>would be George Fan, Alex Lewis, Connumer, Governor, and Brian

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<v Speaker 1>Winners and that Chuma Adogo who would be entering his

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<v Speaker 1>second season in Yeah, Green's I mean if you're playing

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<v Speaker 1>tomorrow and the Jets aren't playing tomorrow, So I don't

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<v Speaker 1>look at the offensive line as a finished product. And

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<v Speaker 1>we know the way Joe Douglas operates, that's not the

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<v Speaker 1>way he is going to attack this thing. But no

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<v Speaker 1>surprise because we've been talking about all week and this

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<v Speaker 1>is it feels like Greens, this is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>longest professional and personal weeks I think a lot of us,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I've ever had. Yeah, I have not been this

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<v Speaker 1>excited for a weekend in the season or even in

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<v Speaker 1>the off season at at work, but like I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I need a break from just working from home,

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<v Speaker 1>which sounds weird anyway. Um, Yeah, so fans. The interesting

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<v Speaker 1>thing that we didn't touch upon last night, it was

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<v Speaker 1>almost like there's a mini trade here in free agency

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<v Speaker 1>because Fan goes from Seattle to the Jets. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>the news reports are right now, and Brandon Shell comes

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<v Speaker 1>to an agreement with the Seattle Seahawks, so um conceivably,

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<v Speaker 1>Shell will be starting on the right side for the

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<v Speaker 1>Hawks next year, whereas Fan could start for the Jets

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<v Speaker 1>on the left side. Again, I thought it was an

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<v Speaker 1>intriguing move because here's a big he was played both

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<v Speaker 1>left tackle and right tackle. He's got good feet. Anybody

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<v Speaker 1>who plays college basketball to Division one level like Fan

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<v Speaker 1>did does. And the other thing is, how are you

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<v Speaker 1>gonna develop this guy in your system when you bring

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<v Speaker 1>him in to one Jets drive Eventually, hopefully it's sooner

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<v Speaker 1>than later. Green's um left guard. You gotta figure this

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<v Speaker 1>is Alex Lewis's job. Period twelve starts last year. I

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<v Speaker 1>consider him one of the guys when Joe Douglas always

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<v Speaker 1>talks about I want guys who love football, Greens. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>if this guy loves football, he's gonna get after it

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<v Speaker 1>now at the center position. What I like with McGovern is,

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<v Speaker 1>even if he plays at guard, you all of his

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<v Speaker 1>sudden at center. You got very good depth there. Because

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<v Speaker 1>don't forget about Jonathan Harrison either, because he is under contract.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought he did a good things last year. But

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<v Speaker 1>mcgougery also plays guard to exactly exactly, So I think

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<v Speaker 1>we think in terms of who's starting all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we have to think too what Joe Douglas

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<v Speaker 1>is doing here is he's building depth as well, no

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<v Speaker 1>matter who ultimately is your your starters, your five. And

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<v Speaker 1>then at right guard, Douglas is very complimentary Brian Winters

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<v Speaker 1>at the NFL combine, what's to see how things shake out.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously Winners have been here for a long time, one

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<v Speaker 1>of the longest, one of the longest tenured New York Jets.

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<v Speaker 1>And then at right tackle, you mentioned Huma Adoga, a

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<v Speaker 1>guy the previous regime draft in the third round. He's

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<v Speaker 1>another intriguing athlete. Um but again there is no period

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<v Speaker 1>on the sentence with Douglas. And as we talked about

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<v Speaker 1>last night, Greens and you've been doing this draft deep

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<v Speaker 1>dive for a long time, listen, a lot of prospects,

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<v Speaker 1>good off mental line prospects. There are draft experts who say,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can get starting tackles in the second and

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<v Speaker 1>third round. Maybe not this year, but those are guys

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<v Speaker 1>who are going to develop ultimately in the starting tackles.

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<v Speaker 1>I know we think about in terms of that Big

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<v Speaker 1>four here in the two thousand and twenty draft class.

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<v Speaker 1>And what I like about the Big four in particular is,

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<v Speaker 1>if let's say the Jets hype hypothetically, do you want

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<v Speaker 1>to go with one of those four players at eleven,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning Andrew Thomas, mackay Beckton, Tristan Worfs, and Jeddrick Wills.

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<v Speaker 1>All those guys have experience on the right side of

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<v Speaker 1>the line. And Andrew Thomas McKay Beckton played at left

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<v Speaker 1>tackle at their respective schools, McKay Beckton for Louisville and

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<v Speaker 1>Andrew Thomas for Georgia. But both of those guys have

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<v Speaker 1>started seasons on the right side, whereas Tristan Worfs and

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<v Speaker 1>Jeddrick Wills, their primary home at the collegiate level was

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<v Speaker 1>on the right side of the line. So let's say, hypothetically,

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<v Speaker 1>George Fant is your left tackle the any one of

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<v Speaker 1>those four guys if the Jets draft one of those

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<v Speaker 1>four or Calm April or whenever the draft ends up being,

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<v Speaker 1>if it changes, any one of those four guys, if

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<v Speaker 1>they end up in Green and white, have experience on

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<v Speaker 1>the right side. And you know, I think that with

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Douglass and the offensive line. It sounds like quantity

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<v Speaker 1>is important in addition of quality, but he definitely wants

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<v Speaker 1>to have a lot of offensive lineman, especially if one

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<v Speaker 1>goes down. I mean, you think about the Eagles one

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<v Speaker 1>of the top units in the league. So I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be surprised to see if Joe Douglas adds more free

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<v Speaker 1>agents to the offensive line or even goes that route

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<v Speaker 1>during the draft. Obviously, Joe Douglas will continue to add

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<v Speaker 1>pieces moving forward along the offensive line and throughout the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the team. And tomorrow's podcast not to look ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna look at the defense, but we're gonna continue

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<v Speaker 1>to look at the offense. Right after we hear from

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<v Speaker 1>Olivia Landis and Bob was Shusan who caught up and

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<v Speaker 1>talked all things Jets. Let's start a little bit into

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<v Speaker 1>the Jets some free agency talk, and let's talk a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit about Joe Douglas. Heading into this offseason. General

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<v Speaker 1>manager Joe Lists spoke a lot about how he wants

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<v Speaker 1>to have certain areas of focus when heading into free

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<v Speaker 1>agency and the off season. Obviously number one, number one

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<v Speaker 1>in his list was rebuilding the offensive line. Now we've

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<v Speaker 1>known that there have been some reports out there from

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<v Speaker 1>multiple NFL analysts that the Jets have made some moves

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<v Speaker 1>in free agency. Would have been your initial thoughts on

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<v Speaker 1>the moves Joe Douglas has made on the offensive line. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he has done exactly every time I've talked

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<v Speaker 1>to him what he said he was going to do philosophically.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, even when we were having these conversations and

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<v Speaker 1>six months ago, he wasn't sure who would be available

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<v Speaker 1>or how much player A B or C would cost,

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<v Speaker 1>but he always said multiple things. Obviously, he is an

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<v Speaker 1>offensive lineman, so he knows you have to build a

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<v Speaker 1>brick wall in front of your young quarterback or you

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<v Speaker 1>have no chance. And um, I think he's looking at

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<v Speaker 1>each guy is having a price value, and if he

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<v Speaker 1>can meet that price value with each specific guy, great,

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<v Speaker 1>If he can't, well then you move on to someone else.

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<v Speaker 1>I do. I always believe that he has looked at

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<v Speaker 1>free agency as kind of option to UM. I think

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<v Speaker 1>he looks at the draft still as if you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>build a team, you're gonna build it primarily through the draft.

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<v Speaker 1>And so even with this remaking of the offensive line,

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<v Speaker 1>you know who knows how the top ten picks go

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<v Speaker 1>in front of him, But if one of those tackles

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<v Speaker 1>is there at eleven, I fully expect that that's probably

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<v Speaker 1>the direction the Jets would go, unless they've got one

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<v Speaker 1>of these wide receivers like third on their board and

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<v Speaker 1>the guy drops all the way down to eleven and

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<v Speaker 1>you just have no choice but to take him because

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<v Speaker 1>you can't believe he fell as far as he fell.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they'll take an offensive lineman, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>they'll look at the offensive lineman they take in the

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<v Speaker 1>draft as their most important acquisition, not even any of

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<v Speaker 1>the free agents. Well, like we already mentioned, we've heard

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<v Speaker 1>some rumored trade signings that have had that have happened.

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<v Speaker 1>We've heard OFFL analysts report them around the league so far.

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<v Speaker 1>But when you look at this free agency period where

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<v Speaker 1>we're at right now, because it is such a weird time,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, with people and players not being able to

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<v Speaker 1>travel and everything, where does he go from here? What's

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<v Speaker 1>the next move? Well, I think he's even waiting on

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of the guys that are Jets, or at

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<v Speaker 1>least could conceivably be Jets again. Um, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>it kind of plays into his overall philosophy, like a

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan Jenkins or Robby Anderson, Guys like that one name

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<v Speaker 1>out there that everybody is wondering what's going to happen

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<v Speaker 1>with from a pass rushing standpoint, because he seems to

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<v Speaker 1>be clearly the most talented of the pass rushing group.

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<v Speaker 1>Jadavian Clowney and I think the Jets would be, of

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<v Speaker 1>course interested in a player like that if all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden the market kind of dried up for him

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<v Speaker 1>and it was a chance to bring him in at

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<v Speaker 1>a reasonable price. And now maybe going forward, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of fits more to the framework of what they

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<v Speaker 1>want to do. So I think they are content to

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<v Speaker 1>sit back a little bit and see if some of

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<v Speaker 1>these players all to them, rather than getting antsie jumping

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<v Speaker 1>up and throwing money that they don't want to throw,

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<v Speaker 1>or think maybe these guys either aren't quite worth or

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<v Speaker 1>would upset the overall framework of what they want to

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<v Speaker 1>do to fill out kind of the bulk of the roster.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of guys out there in free agency,

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<v Speaker 1>that second wave and third wave of free agency. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>people forget when those first big names come off the

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<v Speaker 1>board that there's another fifty players behind those guys that

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<v Speaker 1>are also looking for contracts, And it kind of seems sometimes,

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<v Speaker 1>in my personal opinion, when that second and third wave comes,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe even this time, it might be taking a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit longer to come because we're in such a weird

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<v Speaker 1>time frame with the virus going around. I don't know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and and Robby Anderson in and of himself is a

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<v Speaker 1>really weird spot. It's just that I don't ever remember

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<v Speaker 1>a player being a part of a position group that

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<v Speaker 1>in the free agency world is so thin. There's like

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<v Speaker 1>three or four legit top notch wide receivers available in

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<v Speaker 1>free agency in the exact same year that there is

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<v Speaker 1>a draft class that is historic in terms of its

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<v Speaker 1>talent and depth. So for every team out there that

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<v Speaker 1>might be thinking about Robbie Anderson and Robbie Anderson's reps

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<v Speaker 1>might be coming back and saying, hey, I think I'm

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<v Speaker 1>worth X, that team is saying, well, not only are

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<v Speaker 1>we not sure you're worth X, we think you're worth why?

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<v Speaker 1>But we could get a guy in the third round

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<v Speaker 1>of the draft worth virtually nothing at least for his

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<v Speaker 1>first four years in the league, and he might be

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<v Speaker 1>better than you. So all of this is that pot

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<v Speaker 1>of trying to forecast the draft. How many wide receivers

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<v Speaker 1>do you have on your board? How deep does your

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<v Speaker 1>talent pool go? All right, Robbie, here's the deal. We've

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<v Speaker 1>got twenty five receivers that we think we could draft

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<v Speaker 1>in the first four rounds that all I think are

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be really good NFL players. But we also like

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<v Speaker 1>you and think you're a really good NFL player. But

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<v Speaker 1>we can't pay you what you might have gotten three

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<v Speaker 1>years ago when there was maybe a dirth of wide

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<v Speaker 1>receivers in the draft. It's it's just a very weird

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<v Speaker 1>kind of you know, alignment of the stars for Robby Anderson.

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<v Speaker 1>Before I let you go, Bob, I wanted to get

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<v Speaker 1>your input a little bit on quarterback Sam Donald, obviously

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<v Speaker 1>entering his third season in the NFL. We discussed this

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<v Speaker 1>right before we came on the podcast, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>also e A. Eric Allen talked about it a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit earlier today. Sam Donald is now the longest neard

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback in the ANFC East. Him and Josh Allen obviously

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<v Speaker 1>both are from the same draft class, but he has

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<v Speaker 1>more starting experience. Do you expect him to have a

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<v Speaker 1>very big jump in your three and kind of bring

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<v Speaker 1>that with him. I think if they put an offensive

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<v Speaker 1>line in front of Sam Donald that can protect him,

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<v Speaker 1>then you're going to see him become the best quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>in the division. And I think his ability level is

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<v Speaker 1>different than anybody else. Now. Who knows who the Dolphins

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna end up with, and they're probably gonna end

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<v Speaker 1>up with a rookie quarterback of their own this year.

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<v Speaker 1>All of the signs point to them taking one of

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<v Speaker 1>those top quarterbacks probably to if they can make it happen. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>if you gave me my choice between Sam Donald and two,

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<v Speaker 1>I would take Sam Donald. Um. So I you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think their future is brighter as things stand right

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<v Speaker 1>now than anybody in their division. And as scary as

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<v Speaker 1>it is to say it, it's been forty years since

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<v Speaker 1>you can even maybe have that argument because thirty seven

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<v Speaker 1>years ago Dan Marino was drafted and for the last

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<v Speaker 1>thirty seven years the Jets have had a Hall of

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<v Speaker 1>Fame quarterback or two on the teams in their own division.

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<v Speaker 1>And in thirty seven years, I think Sam Donald's probably

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<v Speaker 1>the best quarterback of the quarterback with the most promise

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<v Speaker 1>that they've had in that entire time. So he needs

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<v Speaker 1>to play all sixteen games, and he needs to stay healthy.

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<v Speaker 1>He needs to take care of himself. He needs to

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<v Speaker 1>um prove that he can be, you know, from a

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<v Speaker 1>durability standpoint, a guy that they can count on every

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<v Speaker 1>single week. But if he does that and they put

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<v Speaker 1>a a wall of blockers in front of him and

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<v Speaker 1>and give him some weapons, then yeah, the last thing

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<v Speaker 1>I'm worried about with the Jets is the quarterback. He's

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<v Speaker 1>the least of their words. Great to hear from Olivia

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<v Speaker 1>and the voice of the Jets, Bob was choosing Glad

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<v Speaker 1>they're doing well in their respective quarantines. But let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the rest of the chef Rosster. Obviously, the offensive

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<v Speaker 1>line a focal point for Joe Douglas and the Jets,

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<v Speaker 1>not only this season but every year in which he

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<v Speaker 1>is general manager of the New York Jets. And let's

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<v Speaker 1>go to the quarterback now, because obviously it's Sam Donald,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not a question who's starting. But the guys behind them,

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<v Speaker 1>there's only one guy under the under a contract, and

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<v Speaker 1>that is Mike White. Trevor Simeon and unrestricted free agent,

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<v Speaker 1>and same with David Fails. So who are some guys

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<v Speaker 1>that are on the market. Who are some guys that

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<v Speaker 1>you think could make sense for the Jets. Wow, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a great quiet because you know what I go back

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<v Speaker 1>to is the CBA, Greens, is that you're gonna see

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<v Speaker 1>rosters effectively be fifty five next year. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>what you're gonna see are a lot of teams go

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<v Speaker 1>with a veteran quarterback behind you and then that developmental

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<v Speaker 1>guy becomes a practice squad guy for you during the week.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll have to see what happens with the Jets

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<v Speaker 1>down the line, but I would imagine they will be

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<v Speaker 1>in the market for a veteran um. Trevor Simeon Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>he wasn't able to take over when Donald had the

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<v Speaker 1>monol because he went down against the Cleveland Browns and

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<v Speaker 1>that late head from Miles Garrett. So the Jets, unfortunately

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<v Speaker 1>last year they played four quarterbacks in the first four games. Greens.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the thing. Sam Donald was seven and six as

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<v Speaker 1>a starter last year. Over the past two years, when

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<v Speaker 1>Sam Donald doesn't start, you know the Jets record. Oh no,

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<v Speaker 1>not at the top of my head that I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>But never by the way you get it, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>losing record zero six. Uh So, what Joe Douglas is

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<v Speaker 1>doing right now is he's trying to build that fortress

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<v Speaker 1>of round Sam Donald. He wants to protect the goods,

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<v Speaker 1>the guy who completed sixty two percent of his passes

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<v Speaker 1>last year through for three thousand yards. Excuse me, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>getting excited, um who I think is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>most talented young quarterbacks in the NFL. With with that

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<v Speaker 1>being said, um it it traditionally means uh. An NFL

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<v Speaker 1>season traditionally means that you're gonna you're gonna need a

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<v Speaker 1>veteran backup quarterback because it's tough to start sixteen games

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<v Speaker 1>every year. It really is. Yeah, yeah, no, no kidding.

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<v Speaker 1>I Actually, if we're just having fun and spitballing, here

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<v Speaker 1>one name that I would keep an eye all. Are

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<v Speaker 1>you gonna saying? I'm saying Joe Flacco just because he's

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<v Speaker 1>the guy that UH was founded essentially by Joe doug

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<v Speaker 1>list when he was on the Ravens out of Delaware

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<v Speaker 1>and he stood up he Joe Douglas stood on the

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<v Speaker 1>table for Flacco and supposedly reportedly the Broncos are waiving

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<v Speaker 1>him or releasing him with a failed physical designation, so

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see what happens there. And yeah, then you brought

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<v Speaker 1>up You're glad you brought up the flacco Um release

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<v Speaker 1>because of the failed Injurynation designation. Here's the thing, if

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<v Speaker 1>the Jets did have interest in bringing him in again,

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<v Speaker 1>it might be a little tricky for a while because

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<v Speaker 1>that's a guy you're gonna want to have a physical

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<v Speaker 1>probably in your place, I would figure. But you're right,

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Douglas, if you look back, he's the guy who

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<v Speaker 1>found this dude out of Delaware and said, hey, Ozzie,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we got a guy here, and Ravens ultimately

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<v Speaker 1>take him. And you know, Joe Flacco might have prevented

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<v Speaker 1>Adam Gaze from getting the Super Bowl because if you

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<v Speaker 1>remember the Baltimore Ravens taking down the Denver Broncos a

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<v Speaker 1>few years back. And Okay, so let's just that's the quarterbacks.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's branch out to the wide receivers because right now

0:20:08.160 --> 0:20:11.320
<v Speaker 1>the Jets the receivers under contract a lot of questions.

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<v Speaker 1>Quincey and Noon, will Willie be healthy. Robby Anderson not

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<v Speaker 1>under contract, He's on the free agent market right now.

0:20:17.600 --> 0:20:22.560
<v Speaker 1>Josh Bellamy's is under contract. Vincent Smith, Braxton, Barrios. There's

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<v Speaker 1>not a whole lot of receivers that have a whole

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<v Speaker 1>lot of experience under contract. And obviously if you look

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<v Speaker 1>at the draft, this is something that this is a

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<v Speaker 1>class that is so deep and it's supposed to be

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<v Speaker 1>a historical draft class at wide receiver that the Jets

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<v Speaker 1>and theory, having four picks in the top eighty could

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<v Speaker 1>come out if they drafted two wide receivers with within

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<v Speaker 1>the top eighty, they could theoretically come out with two

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<v Speaker 1>Day one starters. Hold on Green's you're playing a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of mad and you're going two receivers in the top

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<v Speaker 1>eighty maybe depending what happened to free agency or how

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<v Speaker 1>how who gets drafted ahead? Like, let me ask you this,

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<v Speaker 1>if four tackles are gone by eleven and the trading

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<v Speaker 1>back is not an option, what position do you think

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<v Speaker 1>the Jets would go? Okay, I'm going back at you.

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<v Speaker 1>Are Judy, A, Judy and Lamb on the board at eleven,

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<v Speaker 1>You'll have your pick of the litter at receiver at

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<v Speaker 1>eleven because the four tackles in this scenario are off. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I understand, I'm asking you. If Judy and Lamb are

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<v Speaker 1>on the board at eleven. Oh you were you they are?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that's ultimately gonna happen? Well, okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you're saying not in my scenario. You're saying ultimately, I

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<v Speaker 1>think one of those one of those guys one or

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<v Speaker 1>two will will be off the board before Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>think so. I mean, I think it's it's an interesting

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<v Speaker 1>debate because of how rich this draft classes at receiver.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you does a team want to take the first

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<v Speaker 1>guy or does the team feel hey with taking somebody

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<v Speaker 1>in the top of the second round or the top

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<v Speaker 1>half of the third round because you know that it's

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<v Speaker 1>such a rich class. I think it's an interesting debate.

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<v Speaker 1>Now one team that I you know, I think a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of teams could definitely take a receiver really after

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<v Speaker 1>probably from seven to eleven. Okay, I don't think I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's really where you would see one or two

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<v Speaker 1>of those guys start to come off the board. Okay, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is all fascinated to me. Here's the catch. Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Douglas is gonna bring in at least one free agent receiver.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not I'm not putting pressure on the guy you

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<v Speaker 1>just talked about. The roster in terms of numbers, and

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned the names. Well, I like where the Jets

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<v Speaker 1>are at slot on that inside across the board, because

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about news outlets saying the Jets had agreed

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<v Speaker 1>to terms with Brian Pool. I love that reciting. And

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<v Speaker 1>you got Jamison Crowder who made such a tremendous impact

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<v Speaker 1>last year. He knows how to find the soft spots

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<v Speaker 1>in the zone. He also is effective against man coverage

0:23:07.119 --> 0:23:09.400
<v Speaker 1>and he can make plays down the field. You're set

0:23:09.480 --> 0:23:13.040
<v Speaker 1>at slot position. Who are your guys on the boundary.

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<v Speaker 1>There's an interesting free agent out there. Let me name

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<v Speaker 1>him Robbie Anderson. I know that so well, let's to see.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Joe Douglas been very complimentary of Robbie Anderson,

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<v Speaker 1>so was Adam case And and he is testing the

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<v Speaker 1>market right now. We don't know what's happening. Um, but

0:23:32.720 --> 0:23:36.720
<v Speaker 1>if Robbie Anderson signs with someone else, then you're gonna

0:23:36.760 --> 0:23:39.840
<v Speaker 1>turn and pivot. And you've mentioned some of the guys

0:23:39.880 --> 0:23:44.440
<v Speaker 1>out there, um, Philip Door set to Marius Thomas, who

0:23:44.480 --> 0:23:46.920
<v Speaker 1>was on this roster last year, came in and doesn't

0:23:47.000 --> 0:23:51.280
<v Speaker 1>did a nice job for your Greens, especially Yeahhard Perriman,

0:23:51.320 --> 0:23:54.159
<v Speaker 1>a former first round pick who ended last year with

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<v Speaker 1>the Tampa Bay Buccaneers three consecutive a hundred yard games,

0:23:57.880 --> 0:24:00.800
<v Speaker 1>so he was starting to turn the corner. Um. But

0:24:00.880 --> 0:24:02.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm hearing a lot of these guys want to go

0:24:02.560 --> 0:24:06.640
<v Speaker 1>play for Tom Brady right now. Yeah. You know somebody

0:24:06.680 --> 0:24:10.400
<v Speaker 1>that we have not talked about recently really at all,

0:24:10.880 --> 0:24:13.480
<v Speaker 1>Josh Doson is under contract and got about that. That

0:24:13.560 --> 0:24:17.160
<v Speaker 1>was great, great point, And that's a former first round

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<v Speaker 1>pick and again one of those low under the radar moves,

0:24:22.640 --> 0:24:27.240
<v Speaker 1>but again value potential value there. So one of the

0:24:27.320 --> 0:24:30.119
<v Speaker 1>most popular names in terms of mock trafts in the

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<v Speaker 1>third round of the Jets has been Florida State running

0:24:33.119 --> 0:24:36.239
<v Speaker 1>back Cam Akers, and a lot of people think that

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<v Speaker 1>he would be a good compliment to Levy on Bell

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<v Speaker 1>at a little dynamic juice maybe and maybe a home

0:24:41.640 --> 0:24:44.520
<v Speaker 1>run threat for Adam Gates and add speed like we

0:24:44.520 --> 0:24:48.800
<v Speaker 1>were talking about. And before we wrap up here, I

0:24:48.800 --> 0:24:51.080
<v Speaker 1>would say Trent Cannon is still on the roster. And

0:24:51.119 --> 0:24:56.320
<v Speaker 1>you mentioned a couple of guys Josh Adams to your

0:24:56.359 --> 0:25:00.480
<v Speaker 1>former Eagle. Yeah, so Joe Douglas very familiar with John Chathams.

0:25:00.480 --> 0:25:02.480
<v Speaker 1>He was one of the players that He was one

0:25:02.480 --> 0:25:05.800
<v Speaker 1>of four players that the Jets claimed when Joe Douglass

0:25:05.920 --> 0:25:07.800
<v Speaker 1>took over as general manager. That was like one of

0:25:07.840 --> 0:25:11.800
<v Speaker 1>his first UH avenues, as he'd like to say, to

0:25:11.920 --> 0:25:14.560
<v Speaker 1>add talent to this team. One of those players was

0:25:14.640 --> 0:25:17.240
<v Speaker 1>Braxton Barrios, who was second in the NFL at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the season and punt returned average. So how

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<v Speaker 1>about that great job exactly. This is Joe douglas first

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<v Speaker 1>time going through an off season as general manager of

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<v Speaker 1>the Jets, and we're, like we said earlier, were at

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<v Speaker 1>the very beginning stage is a free agency, even though

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<v Speaker 1>it feels like we've been doing this forever and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>see what happens from now on. But many thanks to

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<v Speaker 1>Olivia and Bob. I gotta say something real quick. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>bring it on, Bring it on. We didn't talk about

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<v Speaker 1>one position group on offense, and that was on purpose

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<v Speaker 1>tight ends that you offensively, that is your most solid

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<v Speaker 1>position period because you think about the depth, you think

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<v Speaker 1>what you've already done there. You resigned Ryan Griffin. Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Douglas resigning Ryan Griffin, who did it all for the

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<v Speaker 1>Jets last year and he's another good character guy, loves ball. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>You're knocking on wood that you get Chris Herndon back,

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<v Speaker 1>because that opens up things for Sam Donald and he

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<v Speaker 1>brings an element of speed. You resigned Daniel Brown before

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<v Speaker 1>free agency started, so listen, tight en position, lock it up.

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<v Speaker 1>You're good there, don't worry about it. I totally agree

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<v Speaker 1>with that. So again tomorrow's podcast, we'll do the same

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<v Speaker 1>thing what we did with the offense, but we'll do

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<v Speaker 1>with the defense. And if anything else happens in free

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<v Speaker 1>agency in regard to the Jets reportedly, then we will

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<v Speaker 1>break that down as well. But again, many thanks to Olivia, Bob, was,

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<v Speaker 1>Susan and e A. Thanks for hopping on again and

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<v Speaker 1>I'll talk to you tomorrow. Okay, brother s,