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Speaker 1: welcome to another edition of Club Sha Shay. I am

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Speaker 1: And the guy that's stopping by today is one of

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Speaker 1: Will Packer, Guy we all, I'm in the club. What

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Speaker 1: We were bear We got similar rules. You live in

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Speaker 1: some time, That's how you had to buy some times.

424
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Speaker 1: You mentioned your politics. You're very you're very political person.

425
00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,520
Speaker 1: Obviously you care, we should. We're citizens, and people think.

426
00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:28,120
Speaker 1: I think sometimes people think if you're famous, you're an athlete,

427
00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:32,720
Speaker 1: that you're unaffected, you're unimpacted by what's transpired. I care.

428
00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,560
Speaker 1: I care about the economy, I care about inflation. Yeah,

429
00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:39,280
Speaker 1: I care about you know, pop, the hunger and things that,

430
00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:42,200
Speaker 1: the homelessness. Yes, I care about those things. Yes. Yeah.

431
00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,920
Speaker 1: Having money doesn't exempt you from world problems at all.

432
00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,320
Speaker 1: Maybe give you a better avenue to be, but you're

433
00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:50,399
Speaker 1: dealing with those, but it doesn't exempt you you're a

434
00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,479
Speaker 1: big Stacey the Abrian proponent. Are you surprised, I mean,

435
00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,560
Speaker 1: the last time she ran, she lost by eighty thousand boats.

436
00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:58,440
Speaker 1: This time it wasn't even close. Are you surprised that

437
00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:02,119
Speaker 1: it was such a blowout this time around. I wasn't

438
00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,080
Speaker 1: because I think it just speaks to where Georgia is

439
00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:09,520
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, I think that there was. First of all,

440
00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:13,359
Speaker 1: Stacy's incredible. Yes, she ran an incredible campaign the first time,

441
00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:19,320
Speaker 1: and a lot of people thought because in twenty twenty

442
00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,160
Speaker 1: and then twenty twenty one when we had to send

443
00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,800
Speaker 1: the runoffs, we got two Democratic senators, a black man

444
00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,840
Speaker 1: and a Jewish man correct the state of Georgia. Yes,

445
00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:29,760
Speaker 1: but what people didn't really understand is that was a

446
00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:33,000
Speaker 1: very unique confluence of events that allowed that to happen. Okay,

447
00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,680
Speaker 1: you were coming off twenty twenty where you had Georgia

448
00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,280
Speaker 1: Republicans and Republicans nationwide it just said I'm not going

449
00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,520
Speaker 1: to vote for Trump. Okay, you said you had people

450
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,240
Speaker 1: that literally voted all the way down the ticket and

451
00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:44,959
Speaker 1: did not vote for him. They said, I'm just I'm

452
00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,440
Speaker 1: tired of ask Normally, for the most part, you vote

453
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Speaker 1: down ballot. From that is correct. You had a lot

454
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Speaker 1: of people that did not vote there. Then in that

455
00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,480
Speaker 1: runoff you had him and a lot of other people saying,

456
00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 1: what the election is rid, it's fraud everywhere. So you

457
00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,440
Speaker 1: had a lot of Republicans that stayed, they did not

458
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Speaker 1: come and ass Off and Warnot benefited from that because

459
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,320
Speaker 1: those of us that work very hard to energize the

460
00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:08,359
Speaker 1: Democratic base, we got our folks out right this time around.

461
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,760
Speaker 1: There was a big push amongst Republicans. You see that

462
00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,160
Speaker 1: every midterm, the part it's not in power usually comes

463
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:17,639
Speaker 1: down and come strong, right, and so in Georgia, ultimately

464
00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:21,320
Speaker 1: you still do have a lot more Republican registered voters

465
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 1: and so their base is bigger than the Democratic base there.

466
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 1: Stacey was up against that. Now it speaks to when

467
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 1: you look at Senator Warnot, it speaks to the fact

468
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 1: that he was up against a very flawed candidate. Because

469
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Speaker 1: just about every other statewide race and Georgia the Republicans won,

470
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,200
Speaker 1: but that one they couldn't get it. There that a

471
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Speaker 1: lot of people that said, I can't do that, right,

472
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,399
Speaker 1: I can't hold my nose and punch that Walker ticket, right,

473
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Speaker 1: So what not? Obviously we're gonna have a runoff. I

474
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Speaker 1: think it's December six. It is between a senator Warnot

475
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 1: and herschel Walker. Ye, and look, I don't have anything.

476
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,440
Speaker 1: I don't want to come out here and speak bad

477
00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 1: about herschel But I think what is for me my

478
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:03,119
Speaker 1: problem else is that they've allowed he's allowed them to

479
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 1: make him a caricature of the worst stereotype that's been

480
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 1: portrayed on us, right for hundreds of years. Yeah, and

481
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 1: it's embarrassing. Yeah, the way he's talk he's like he

482
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 1: had I mean to hear him talk about certain things

483
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:20,440
Speaker 1: and I'm like, seriously, yeah, seriously, I'm like people seriously. Yeah, here, here,

484
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,920
Speaker 1: here's a challenge. And I'm saying this to you. Black

485
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,919
Speaker 1: man and black man, successful black man to successful black man,

486
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 1: high profile media black man is somebody that also works

487
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Speaker 1: in media. Right, here's the challenge, Shannam. It hurts us

488
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:38,719
Speaker 1: to see a black man in that position. Now, if

489
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 1: herschel Walker was doing almost anything else, selling cars or

490
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:47,399
Speaker 1: hosting a late night show, anything, right, I wouldn't have

491
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,440
Speaker 1: any issues. And I would have a problem with people,

492
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 1: you know, uh, making fun or demonizing or characterizing him

493
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:57,399
Speaker 1: in a negative way. Right, But you're talking about running

494
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Speaker 1: for one of the most powerful positions in the country. Yes,

495
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 1: it has to matter. Yes, And we know for a

496
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,640
Speaker 1: fact that you've got people on the other side that said,

497
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 1: we're gonna prop up somebody that is unqualiqualified. We are

498
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 1: very intentionally going to put somebody in a position who

499
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 1: does not have the qualifications. Right, qualifications have to matter

500
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,880
Speaker 1: when you're talking about the US Senate. Brother, Yeah, that's

501
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 1: what's painful. I don't. I don't. I hate the fact

502
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 1: that we have a black man running for Senate who

503
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,400
Speaker 1: is so severely unqualified, and it's so very clear, right,

504
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 1: and he happens to be running against another black man, right,

505
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 1: happens to be a pastor. And you have a lot

506
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Speaker 1: of evangelicals in the South Jordia that are like, well,

507
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,119
Speaker 1: I'm gonna vote for Walker. I'm not gonna vote for

508
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 1: the past I'm gonna vote for the other guy. That's

509
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 1: just about you being in your own echo chamber and

510
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 1: just following along with the political divide. It's not about

511
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 1: the most qualified candidates. You can't to nobody of any

512
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 1: intelligence is going to argue that, right, But it just

513
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 1: shows where we are, and so you feel we do

514
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 1: and a lot of people. Actually we know they are

515
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 1: using this brother, he's allowing himself to be used. But

516
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,119
Speaker 1: you know what, sometimes the hardest people to see that

517
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 1: is the person that's being used. If you know, we've

518
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:09,680
Speaker 1: all seen that man. She's using him or he's using her. Absolutely,

519
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 1: they don't see that. But you're on the outside, you're

520
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,640
Speaker 1: sometimes you're so close you don't feel or you can't

521
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 1: sense what's actually going on. We're looking at this and

522
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 1: like and we're watching all these the voters tie themselves

523
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:24,639
Speaker 1: up in prestles. They ask, you know, they're so this

524
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 1: Republican base and soul against abortions, where herschel play for abortions.

525
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 1: Well that's different. Hold on, what do you mean? Yeah?

526
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 1: I thought you say killing a numbered child is murder.

527
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 1: But if he's driving the lady to the to the

528
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,680
Speaker 1: place and pay it for, what is that? Well it

529
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 1: all depends on what is God. That's between him and

530
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,680
Speaker 1: is God? Oh really? Yeah? So what about the woman

531
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 1: and her God? Yeah? Yeah, you can justify it when

532
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 1: you want to. You don't want to look at the truth.

533
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 1: If you want to justify it, you can, you know,

534
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 1: And that's what's happening there. I just and by the

535
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 1: way you said it, if you think he is going

536
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 1: to these rallies and looking at these people and thinking,

537
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 1: I'm qualified, I got a chance to win, I might win,

538
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 1: I should win. Right, that's how he's thinking of it.

539
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 1: He's not looking at it as there is a structure

540
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 1: that is using your right to try to undermine something

541
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,919
Speaker 1: that's happening with another political party. Not because you are

542
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 1: qualified or we want your ideals or we want your

543
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,680
Speaker 1: skill set. No, we just need a body. We need

544
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,399
Speaker 1: somebody that's popular. And you know, like I know in

545
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 1: Georgia God football family and that that order switches depending

546
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 1: on the day of the week. But still all absolutely

547
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 1: people look at him and they say some of the

548
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 1: most the fondest memories I have or with him running

549
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 1: the ball, you know, taking Georgia across the end zone. Yea,

550
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 1: I will always love him. I'll always have a fondness.

551
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 1: That's the power of sports, right, Nothing wrong with that.

552
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:45,360
Speaker 1: But when you blurt the lines and you talk about

553
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,880
Speaker 1: putting somebody in a position of real power, that's where

554
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 1: it gets disturbed. That's what we got a responsibility to

555
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 1: do the right thing. Were you always a big sports

556
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,160
Speaker 1: pay Yeah, man, you play sports growing up? I did.

557
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 1: I did play football. You know. I was the small,

558
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,119
Speaker 1: fast dude, you know what I'm saying. So you know

559
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,719
Speaker 1: I'm about chance, the sharpest. You know. I played in Florida,

560
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 1: so we played you know, football is yeah, the football

561
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 1: is it. Yeah, what you mean is I know you're

562
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 1: Georgia boy, but you know we right there? Yea, yeah,

563
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 1: the South football is king and the spot is king

564
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 1: in the South. Yeah, I played football, baseball. I was

565
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 1: an athlete growing up. I got a son who played

566
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 1: college ball at Harvard incidentally, so yeah, I got it.

567
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 1: I got a little DNA and me, did did you

568
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 1: want to did you want to play professionally? Or did

569
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 1: you did you? I knew I didn't have that one

570
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 1: in the cars. Okay, that was never I mean, you know,

571
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: if it was in the cards, you know what I mean,

572
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 1: I would have I would have done it. But that

573
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 1: was definitely not in the cause I didn't have a frame,

574
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: the statue or the athletic ability. We're being honest, I mean,

575
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 1: living things turned out. Okay, though you graduated magna cum laudy.

576
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 1: I graduated thank you, Lordy. You know, I mean you

577
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 1: I made you the eligibility. I didn't need to stay

578
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 1: in for the football. How about two points? Got two?

579
00:27:56,040 --> 00:28:01,360
Speaker 1: I mean bachelor's last degree in electrical engineers, Yes, sir, yes, sir, yes, sir.

580
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 1: Did you when you're growing up, like, what did you

581
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 1: want to be? What did Will Packer want to be

582
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 1: when you're growing up? A boss? That's the truth. I

583
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 1: wanted to be a boss, Okay, I didn't know what kind.

584
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I wanted to be in charge, right,

585
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 1: you want to tell somebody else what to do? I didn't.

586
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 1: I wanted to have my own company, my own business. Right.

587
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 1: So my parents explaining to me, well, that's an entrepreneurship, right,

588
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 1: that's what you want to go out Okay, But it

589
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: really was this ideal of I want to be the

590
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 1: person that's calling the shots. I didn't know how. I

591
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 1: didn't know exactly the industry or the field. But they said,

592
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: all right, well, what you gotta do is bust your ass, right,

593
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 1: you gotta work hard. That was instilled in me very early. Right,

594
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: you gotta go out there, if you're putting your name

595
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 1: on it, you better be given one hundred and ten percent.

596
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 1: And so that's why ultimately I made a grades in

597
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 1: high school, went to college major in engineering. Didn't want

598
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 1: to be that was not my dream, but that was

599
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: where you know, I got the scholarship Magnicolard. As you said,

600
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 1: bust my ass working very very hard in engineering, right.

601
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 1: I still used that mindset, as I mentioned, an analytical

602
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 1: mind said, even in making my movies today. A lot

603
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: of people think you can just you know, decide to

604
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: wake up and work hard. Nah, if you haven't been

605
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 1: honing a work ethic, if you're not the person that's

606
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,239
Speaker 1: been working hard and learning how to work hard, you're

607
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 1: not going to just all of a sudden be like,

608
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 1: oh I want to do well. You'll work hard for

609
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: a couple of days or a couple of months, and

610
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 1: then you'll turn it back off. Because working hard is

611
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 1: then you have to be in you, and you have

612
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 1: to be doing that at a very young age. That's right.

613
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 1: That's right, absolutely, And by the way, sometimes doing it

614
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 1: in areas that you know may not be your passion. Correct.

615
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 1: I tell people that all the time. You'll find your passion.

616
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 1: But while you're in whatever you're in, bust your ass

617
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 1: with that. Be the best whatever you can be. When

618
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 1: I came out of family, the first movie I interned on.

619
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 1: I was the lowest, lowest, lowest on the total pot right.

620
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 1: I was at under the pas. I was an intern

621
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: in the camera department. I was the absolute best camera

622
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: intern that anybody that said had ever seen. I showed

623
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: up early, I stayed late. I did everything they wanted

624
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 1: me to do. I was around there wrangling the cables.

625
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: Got him right. My cables never got twisted. I did

626
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 1: whatever I needed to do right because my name on it.

627
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: Now I looked and I said, well, I want to

628
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 1: be the producer. I don't want to be doing this.

629
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 1: I don't want to be getting coffee this first in

630
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 1: that person. But you gotta do what you gotta do.

631
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 1: Put in the time. Sometimes in this generation, with the

632
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 1: instant gratification, you have a lot of people not willing

633
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 1: to put in that work right. But I'm somebody that

634
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 1: got to where I am by learning how to grind

635
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 1: from an early age, and it's paid off on That's

636
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 1: what I tell kids. I said, I think you should

637
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: have It's kind of like you know in sports, people

638
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 1: do guys do one thing now they just play football,

639
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: and they just play basketball, and they just do one thing.

640
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 1: And I applied this to life and jobs. I say,

641
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: do a lot of things because they tell you what

642
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 1: you don't want to do once you get older, because

643
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 1: I can assure you if you don't want to do

644
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 1: that as a kid, yeah you damn Su're not gonna

645
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: want to do it as an adult. Things are easier

646
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 1: as a kid. I mean I did a lot of jobs, like, Okay,

647
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 1: I ain't know. I don't want to catch chickens. I

648
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 1: don't want to crop to back. I don't want to

649
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 1: clip on you that. I don't want to pick up peacams.

650
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: I want to lower watermelon a ball. Hey, I don't

651
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 1: want to do feel labor. So that early on in

652
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 1: my life, I like, I don't want to do that. Yeah,

653
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: and then I started playing sports. And then I found

654
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 1: out you can make money you playing sports. Oh that's

655
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 1: what I want to do. That's what I that's what

656
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: I want to do. That's how that's how I want

657
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: to get my family. But you also were extraordinarily gifted

658
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 1: at Yes, yes, you found something that you like to

659
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: do and that you could do really well. A lot

660
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: of people I want to be shatter sharp, don't have

661
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 1: the skill set or the work ethic. But sometimes you

662
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: you're good at one thing, you don't want to do it,

663
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: and you did not that gift, trying to go to

664
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 1: a gift that's that you're not blessed with. That is

665
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 1: very true. That is very true. I agree. So what

666
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 1: you gotta do find the thing that you are good at. Okay,

667
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,959
Speaker 1: do that. Sometimes you'll find your passion along the way.

668
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 1: You're absolutely right. You have people that are good at

669
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: one thing and say, but I think I want to

670
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 1: do something else. Is there a way for you to

671
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: combine it? Is there a way for you to do

672
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 1: this until you got enough resources, but then you can

673
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 1: step out and chase something else. But don't give up

674
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 1: what you're good at, right because if you're really good

675
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: at something, I believe everybody has a talent, you're good

676
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 1: at it, go for it and go hard. How do

677
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 1: you go into an HBCD? You help you in your

678
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 1: movie career. Gave me a perspective and a lot of

679
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: my peers. Number one, it taught me who I'm making

680
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: my movies for. Okay. When I made my first movie,

681
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: Chocolate City, uh we it was starring other kids that

682
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: went to school, but it was nobody in that movie.

683
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 1: We barely you know, knew what we were doing. We

684
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: were trying to keep the shots in focused it right,

685
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: shot on cam quarter. We shot it simper sixteen million

686
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 1: madd film. I see it gets a little matter. Stay

687
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 1: shade in that brother. I didn't have a cam quarter. Okay,

688
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: had some film, all right, y'all see him over here,

689
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,959
Speaker 1: club shade. I knew. I knew when I was at

690
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 1: the line trying to get in here club shots. So

691
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 1: I had this movie that we shot, and nobody in

692
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: Hollywood could give a damn about Chocolate City. Right, but

693
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 1: guess what we had our world premiere. We were in

694
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: uh Lee Hall, which is our auditorium on campus. We

695
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 1: had a formal premiere. We made everybody go out and

696
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 1: rent Tuck. You know, these students, they barely got money

697
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: that we may go to the seat on Son Richard

698
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 1: with Tuck. You know what I'm saying, Ritchie a ball

699
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: gown because we've taken this very seriously. Now. I invited everybody,

700
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: all the big dogs in Hollywood, right, I invited everybody

701
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 1: if you had a studio, the chairman of Fox, Universal paramounts,

702
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 1: so I invited all of them. Okay, My mama was like,

703
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: did you invite Oprah. I say, Mama, open. She said,

704
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 1: you invite all the other people. Invite Oprah. I said, okay, MoMA,

705
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: I'm invite Open. On the day of the premiere, I'm

706
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 1: standing on stage getting ready to introduce my movie, and

707
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 1: the whole front row is empty because I had saved

708
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 1: seats for all these Hollywood people. Right now, none of

709
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 1: them RSVP mind no, not one person had the decent

710
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: seat to even say I'm not. They didn't let me

711
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: know they got to invite right that front row? Was itpy?

712
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 1: Because Shannon Sharp? What if the whole fleet of private

713
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 1: jets that showed up at Talla has Regional Airport the

714
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: day of my premier. I had to be ready for

715
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 1: I had saved the seat for Oprah with a plus one,

716
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: she could have brought Stambon or Gael. It didn't matter. Right,

717
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: whole front row is empty, but guess what, every other

718
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: seat in that auditorium was packed. Wow. And that's when

719
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: I learned, I'm not making my movies for the front row.

720
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: I'm making them for everybody else. That's what I learned

721
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 1: that an HBCU and I have been making movies for

722
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 1: an audience and then expanding beyond that audience ever since

723
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: Wow didn't make it didn't leave you a little like, damn,

724
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 1: couldn't nobody show up? They couldn't send, They couldn't send

725
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 1: like a golfer, they couldn't send. They couldn't send anybody

726
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 1: a little bit because I thought, you know, we had

727
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 1: gone through all this trouble and worked hard and made

728
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: this movie, like, you know, Hollywood's gotta care, right, No,

729
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: they don't. You know what made Hollywood care? After we

730
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: made that movie and we sold T shirts, hats, soundtracks.

731
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:44,439
Speaker 1: We convinced the second run theater that was showing movies

732
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: for like a dollar fifty after they would leave the

733
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: main theaters that was a thing back in the day.

734
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,359
Speaker 1: We convinced them to show our movie over and over again.

735
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: And for the kids in Tallahassee at family it was

736
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 1: a big deal, right, and they would go see the

737
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 1: movie every weekend. Right. We ended up taking that we

738
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 1: had borrowed twenty grand to make that movie. We end

739
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: up making about one hundred thousand dollars. Wow as broke

740
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 1: college students. Right, That's when I realize, Oh, this is

741
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:13,760
Speaker 1: my Ivy League training, this is my NBA level education

742
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 1: and entrepreneurship right here. And I also realize that there's

743
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 1: power in understanding your niche and who you're making your

744
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: movies for. Okay, that's what I learned at an HBCU.

745
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: I learned that I need to make I need to

746
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 1: know my audience, make my movies for a specific audience.

747
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: And by the way, make money without Hollywood. That's the

748
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: only reason Hollywood started returning my calls, because I was

749
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 1: making money without them. They'll leave you out there on

750
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 1: your own if you're not doing nothing and making no noise.

751
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 1: But if you want to get Hollywoods attention, you go

752
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 1: out there. You make money without them. Right then my

753
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 1: phone started breaking. How did someone from an HBCU with

754
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: no connections to Hollywood, no inner workings, right like, all

755
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: of a sudden, they started taking you serious. It was

756
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,399
Speaker 1: that you made movies that made money without their help.

757
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 1: That absolutely Hollywood is good for that. But now let

758
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 1: me just break it, make it clean, make it clear.

759
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 1: It wasn't just that we made we started making money.

760
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: We were willing to do and out hustle other people.

761
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,240
Speaker 1: So even after that movie Chocolate City, that movie TWA

762
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 1: that I made, right, we literally drove from city to

763
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: city to city we rented a Ford Excursion. We'd print

764
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,959
Speaker 1: up a bunch of flyers. We would drive to a city,

765
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 1: hand out flies, and say, our movie is premiering this

766
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: weekend in your theater and your town. We would go.

767
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 1: I would hand out flies at churches. I would hand

768
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: out flies at strip club. I would go to the

769
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 1: radio station and say, hey, can I just get on

770
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 1: for thirty seconds after you come out of your next

771
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 1: commercial break, just tell people about my movie. We hustle.

772
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: We drove that Ford Discursion from Birmingham to Charlotte, to

773
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: Memphis to Jacksonville, Tennessee, to Columbus, Georgia. Drove it all

774
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 1: the way up to to Chicago. I know every city.

775
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 1: I went to nineteen markets because I drove to every

776
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 1: single one. Got a little room out of Motel six,

777
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: Super eight wherever we could afford to stay in, and

778
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: we drove city to city to city, and ultimately we

779
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 1: were able to make a million dollars in the theaters

780
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 1: with that movie. We were willing to do what others weren't.

781
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 1: Now today you got YouTube, you can push your button,

782
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 1: you can put it out there. Yeah, you gotta work harder,

783
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 1: you gotta figure out another way. Because a lot of

784
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,800
Speaker 1: people can get views, but back then we had to

785
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: go to every single city. So that's how we really

786
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,879
Speaker 1: got put on the map. What gave you the idea

787
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 1: to do Stomp the Yard? You mentioned Chocolate City, with

788
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 1: the first one shot exclusively on an HBCU campus by

789
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 1: and then you came with Stop the Yard, Columbus Shore,

790
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: unbelievable movie. Loved it. You remember that I remove it.

791
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,959
Speaker 1: I did? I did. Yeah, you know where I shot

792
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 1: most of it. Morris Brown mob mobi was there, it

793
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: was available, you know. Fortunately they were going through some challenges, right,

794
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 1: and so their campus wasn't active, right. We shot Stomped

795
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 1: the Yard right there at Morris Brown College in the

796
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 1: AUC and it was inspired by my I'll tell you

797
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: exactly what happen. I wanted to make a movie about

798
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: black college, like okay, I had made our first one,

799
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: Chocolate City. I went out to Hollywood and I was like, hey,

800
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: I got this movie. I want to make it about

801
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 1: fraternities and step in and HBCUs. Then people looked at

802
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 1: me like I was crazy, Shannon Shark. They didn't know

803
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: anything about fraternities or stepping or HBCU. They said, y'all

804
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:18,839
Speaker 1: going to black college. They say, y'all know y'all can

805
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 1: go to white colleges, right, we gotta we can accept

806
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: y'all now, But they don't. They don't step I said live.

807
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 1: First of all, they don't do a lot of things. Y'all.

808
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 1: Y'all don't call it the yard, and they don't call

809
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: home coming. Ain't home coming in different you know what

810
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: I mean. Love to my PWR folks, but y'all don't

811
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 1: do it like y'all putting y'all putting raising in the

812
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,959
Speaker 1: potato salace. That's why we could ask why we can't

813
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: do standing over here throwing shade club sha talking about

814
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: that unseasoned chicken at the shark right there. So I

815
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: had to go and convince them that this was not

816
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: a movie about all that stuff. They didn't understand. I said,

817
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 1: you know what, it's a dance one, right, it's a

818
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 1: really good dance movie. Take us dollar dance you've never

819
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 1: seen before. We're gonna combine two different styles of dance

820
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 1: and make a movie around, right. That's how Stomped Yard

821
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: got Greenland. And then I made it my movie around

822
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: black college campus, Okay, around black college life. Right, do

823
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: you have me? I'm looking at you, think like a man,

824
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,800
Speaker 1: Think like a man. Ride Along, obsaas take us No

825
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: Good Deed, The Wedding, the Wedding Ringer, I mean you

826
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 1: know girls trip, Yeah, I mean I'm looking at think

827
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,919
Speaker 1: like a man. Gross ninety six million worldwide, twelve million

828
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,439
Speaker 1: dollar budget, Ride Along one hundred and fifty million, twenty

829
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: five million dollar budget, and you executive produced straight out

830
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 1: of Compton, do you? I mean obviously probably the one

831
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: that what movie do you say? Put will Packer on

832
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 1: the map? Doctor Yard? Stop me Yard? Because I went

833
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: out and I pitched it to every studio and they

834
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 1: all passed on it, and then it came out of

835
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 1: nowhere and open number one. And then everybody started calling

836
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:52,439
Speaker 1: me and saying, why you didn't bring us that movie?

837
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 1: And I said, I did bring you that movie, right,

838
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 1: She said, no, you know that's the one that made

839
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 1: people say, oh, we have to take him serious, right,

840
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,800
Speaker 1: because that's what Hollywood reacts to, right. They follow the numbers.

841
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:06,720
Speaker 1: They don't care about like you can make dollars period. Period.

842
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 1: It's a bottom line business. It's a bottom line business.

843
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,320
Speaker 1: And so once I was able to come out and

844
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 1: I was the number one movie in the country for

845
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 1: two two weeks in a row, and people said, who

846
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 1: the hell is Will Packers? Right? What is this movie

847
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,320
Speaker 1: Stomp the Yard that we didn't know about? But I

848
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 1: had an audience, I had a demographic that was gonna

849
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 1: come out. Like I said, it wasn't the front row.

850
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,919
Speaker 1: I was making that movie forwards everybody else got people

851
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: excited about it. That's how I got on the map.

852
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 1: Be honest with you. The movie Thing Like a Man

853
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: is from the book Steve Harvey. Yeah, what was it

854
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 1: like working with Steve? And then you, like Steve bro

855
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: you're giving all the secrets. A wait, broun, come on

856
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: something we just gotta keep. We keep that amongst says

857
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 1: A saying, I know you don't know about this. The

858
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 1: game is to be sold, not told exactly. Steve sold

859
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: the game, Steve Uncle Steve said, I was selling y'all y'all,

860
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 1: whether y'all appreciate it or not. You know, I was

861
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,919
Speaker 1: one of the first people to call him about that book.

862
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,959
Speaker 1: I called him and this is what like you asked

863
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 1: about me living in Atlanta versus living in La Right,

864
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 1: I'm in La A lot work in Hollywood, but Atlanta's home.

865
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 1: It puts me in a different circle of people. And

866
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: what happened was I saw sisters in the hair salon

867
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 1: and they would passing around copies of Steve's book, right,

868
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: And you would have people like, hey, wait, bring my

869
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: copy back. I didn't get to finish. It's my turn.

870
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: I hand it to me and I started happening. I said,

871
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:28,879
Speaker 1: you know what, you're not seeing all the sales they're

872
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 1: passing this around. So this book has a buzz and

873
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 1: has a relevance that it's hard to quantify, you know

874
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 1: what I mean. The publisher may not even realize that

875
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: you sold one copy of the book, but ten people

876
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 1: read it. So I called Steve very early. I said, man,

877
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,399
Speaker 1: I want to turn your book into a movie. He said,

878
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 1: it's not even a narrative. He said, I'd never imagine

879
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 1: it as him. Right. Then it hit best selling. Then

880
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 1: he went on all the morning shows. Then he went

881
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: on Oprah twice. Now everybody in Hollywood started calling him.

882
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 1: To Steve's credit, he remembered the first dude that called

883
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 1: him about that book, and he said, you know what,

884
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: everybody called me to turn into a movie because the

885
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: books are hit. Now I'm going with Will Packer. I'm

886
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 1: gonna go with the guy who called me first and

887
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 1: said he wanted to turn this into a movie. I said, Steve,

888
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,320
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna let you down. I got you, and

889
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,399
Speaker 1: we opened number one with that movie too, put Kevin

890
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 1: Hard on the map in a different way. Ninety six

891
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: million dollars later, we did a sequel and and got

892
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 1: other stuff in the works as well. Man sat grinding

893
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,439
Speaker 1: that hustle man. But you know what that that says

894
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 1: something that Steve like all these other big movie studios, Yes,

895
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 1: came in. Yes, and he could have been like, you

896
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 1: know what, but the broad man came to me early on. Yeah,

897
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 1: he did, because you didn't think it was gonna do

898
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: anything until all of a sudden I had pique. Se

899
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 1: y'all started going here, and now you want when I

900
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: was here, you wan't hollering at yours that's right right

901
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:50,399
Speaker 1: back then, didn't want me, but he definitely was. That's

902
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 1: that's who he is, you know what I mean. There

903
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 1: was a loyalty there. He said, I'm gonna get his

904
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 1: brother a chance. He was one of the first people

905
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: to call, and then I went with his blessing. Now

906
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 1: I was able to go get a major studio on board.

907
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: We made that with Sony put An amazing casting. Yeah,

908
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,359
Speaker 1: I'm looking at Kevin Hard to Roger p Hempson, Gabrielle Union,

909
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 1: Chris Brown. When the wait, like I said, when you

910
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 1: when you're like, okay, I want to do this movie.

911
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 1: Got Steve's Harvey's blessing. Studios have signed on. Now, how

912
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 1: do you start to go about the cast? He gotta

913
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 1: get a good script, right, We had a script, and

914
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 1: then it was who can be in it? Who can

915
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: bring this to life? First person I wanted was Kevin Hard. Okay,

916
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: I knew similarly, Hollywood wasn't checking for Kevin at that time,

917
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 1: but similarly to the way I knew about Steve's book,

918
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 1: in places like in Atlanta, right off the Hollywood grid,

919
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 1: all people were talking about was Kevin Hard. They were

920
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 1: bootlegging his DVDs like crazy, right watching him. That's when

921
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 1: YouTube was just starting to really pop, watching his videos

922
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 1: and his stuff over and now when I watch my

923
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,439
Speaker 1: kids watching Kevin, I was like, this dude is having

924
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 1: a moment. But it's not like he's selling so many

925
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: you know, units of his comedy special, right, So Hollywood

926
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: doesn't really know how hot he is right now, He

927
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 1: was one of the first people I went after. Ran

928
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 1: into him at the airport. I said, brother, I'm making

929
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 1: the same thing. Say man, this thing. I said, I'm

930
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 1: making a movie. He knew a couple of my movies before,

931
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 1: but we didn't really know each other. I said, give

932
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 1: me a shot. Let me work with you to make

933
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 1: this movie. I want you to start in my new

934
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: movie that I'm making based on Steve Harvey's book. He said,

935
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: I'm in. I'm in, and he gave me that chance,

936
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: right because at that time, Hollywood wasn't coming after him,

937
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 1: but he was hot in the streets. So I made

938
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: that movie. I said, I got you put him in

939
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: the middle. And then it was about how do we

940
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 1: put a great ensemble casting around. I'm so proud of

941
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 1: that cast. Man. You talk about Gabby, and you talk

942
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: about Taraji, you talk about Regina Hall. You know, talk

943
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: about Michael Eely and Rominey Malco and Terrence j. Terence

944
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 1: Jay got that role. He wasn't even supposed to be

945
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,439
Speaker 1: in the movie. He showed up at the table read.

946
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 1: I didn't have anybody cast for that role. We were

947
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 1: reading it, right, you do a table read, everybody sitting

948
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 1: around and actually acts out the script while you're reading it.

949
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 1: And Terrence Jay came in. I said, listen, I don't

950
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:53,800
Speaker 1: know what I can get you in this movie, but

951
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 1: sit in for this part of Regina Hall's love interest

952
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 1: in the table read. He was so prepared, he had

953
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 1: studied so hard. He came in. Everybody else was reading

954
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 1: their scripts. Terence Jay didn't need a script because he

955
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,240
Speaker 1: had memorized the whole thing. He knew all his lines.

956
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 1: He was completely off book we call it. And he

957
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: was acting his ass off in that table read. And

958
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 1: that's how he got the row. Wow. He was willing

959
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 1: to do what it took. You also worked with Oprah.

960
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:22,879
Speaker 1: How did it work with Oprah? Because it's Oprah. Yeah,

961
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:26,320
Speaker 1: it's Oprah. It's like yeah, like there's certain people like

962
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 1: when you gotta go by one name Oprah, Yeah, Denzel, Yeah,

963
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: say yes and you know what I'm saying. Period And

964
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: I read here she said, Hey, don't have me looking crazy.

965
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: She did? She did. I went u. I went. I

966
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 1: went to Promised Land, that's Oprah's estates. Yeah, okay, and

967
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,359
Speaker 1: I got invited. I got called up to the estate.

968
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 1: I went to Promised Land and I pitched her. You

969
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 1: know my show I did for her network, her own network,

970
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 1: and one of the ones I pitched was this dating

971
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: show called Ready Love, and she liked it. I said, listen, Oprah,

972
00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 1: one of the things that dating reality scene as mine

973
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 1: is a show where you have grown folks adults, right,

974
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: who are not in their twenties and your twenties. You

975
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:07,839
Speaker 1: don't really know what you're looking for anyway, right, I said,

976
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 1: let's do a show where people in their thirties and

977
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: forties who have experienced some things, lived some life, maybe

978
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 1: they were divorced, maybe they have kids. And also, by

979
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: the way, African Americans, that's not a viewpoint that you

980
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 1: typically see. She loved it, but she definitely said listen. Now,

981
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 1: you know, I ain't done a lot of this reality TV.

982
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: Will it's my name all over, don't have me looking crazy?

983
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 1: Told me that right there, promisingly. I said, oh, queen, oh,

984
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: I got you. Yeah. She said she didn't want black people.

985
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 1: She wanted black people done right. Yeah, you didn't want

986
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 1: the true no mass, no negative stereota. That it's correct.

987
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 1: She's serious about that because her name is on it. Yeah,

988
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 1: it's also who she is, right, Tyler Perry, Yeah, man,

989
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 1: he was one of the first. I mean, he started

990
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 1: out with these these DVDs, but deal plan unbelievable. And

991
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 1: I think I've got all every last one of the DVDs. Yeah,

992
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: and I'm like, man, I remember bringing them home and

993
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 1: showed them to my sister, My sister laughing, my mom,

994
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 1: My mom was laughed at. My grandmother thought they were

995
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 1: were hilarious. And he takes a deal and turns it

996
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 1: into what it became. And we see what he has becomes.

997
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 1: What's it like, I mean, you shoot at his studio, right, yeah? Yeah,

998
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 1: I've shot at his studio. I've had officers studio. You know,

999
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 1: he's he's my brother and my friend. You know, what

1000
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 1: he has done has really changed the game because before Tyler,

1001
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 1: there was not a filmmaker that owned a studio outside

1002
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 1: of Hollywood, and Hollywood had to take seriously right, black, white,

1003
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 1: or other and for him to create and in Atlanta,

1004
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 1: he has a studio that is on part with any

1005
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 1: of the Hollywood studios. Big, I'm talking hundreds of acres. Right,

1006
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 1: if you ain't been there, we gotta get you down

1007
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 1: in a check out. I gotta check it out. Because

1008
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: he's on the old militarist that's right. It was an

1009
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 1: army base that was not being used, and he took

1010
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: over the army bases, like four hundred plus acres. He

1011
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 1: has three hundred of them as his studio. He builded.

1012
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 1: Everything is top notch, top of the lot. And he

1013
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 1: did that, as you said, off of media, your aunts

1014
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 1: and family's sister, because y'all they weren't only one laughing.

1015
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 1: He touched the nerves within the black community. People saw

1016
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 1: themselves and the family members. They knew everybody had him.

1017
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 1: Adia and uncle are crazy and that's how they talked

1018
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 1: to and they understand. I'm not sure, but straight you

1019
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 1: said something, and I heard you said, you know, I

1020
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 1: realized that I wasn't making moving for the front row.

1021
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 1: I was making it moving for back there. Yes, he's

1022
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 1: learned that early on. Yes that blacks, Okay, that's what

1023
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 1: I'm I'm making a movie for them. Yeah, they go,

1024
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 1: they love this I'm making and everybody, I'm like, man,

1025
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: I'm sure Hollywood at the time didn't take him serious.

1026
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 1: Feel like, I ain't nobody to go a six foot

1027
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 1: four man dressing up, dressing up and nobody's gonna buy it. Yes,

1028
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 1: And then before they knew it Yes, he was wildfire.

1029
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 1: He had caught fire, yes, and the blaze was too

1030
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:53,839
Speaker 1: big to put out. So now they got to take

1031
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 1: him sus. Now they want to do business with it. Absolutely.

1032
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 1: That's how, like I said, Hollywood calls when you make

1033
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: money without him. He did something that that I admire

1034
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 1: and that I've done also in my career, which is

1035
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 1: put people in positions that they haven't seen themselves, right.

1036
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 1: Call it underserved audiences and underserved experiences, and people saw

1037
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 1: themselves and people they knew on screen in a different

1038
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: way with Tyler's movies and and some of my movies

1039
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:22,839
Speaker 1: as well. And that's an opportunity that traditional Hollywood did

1040
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:27,280
Speaker 1: not care about until it became profitable. They weren't making movies,

1041
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 1: you know, the thing like A Man's and Girls Trips

1042
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 1: and Tyler's stuff and some of these other they weren't.

1043
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 1: That wasn't something Hollywood had done frequently, right, because they

1044
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 1: didn't see the value in right. But you had big

1045
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 1: audiences that said, we want to see ourselves right, want

1046
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 1: to laugh, cry, and everything in between. And so it's

1047
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: up to filmmakers like myself to go out there and

1048
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 1: make force Hollywood to pay attention. By showing that there's

1049
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: an economic viability to that audience, that our audience is

1050
00:49:55,719 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 1: one of the most persuasive, loud, influential you audiences, and

1051
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 1: especially black women, Right, That's what they do, and other

1052
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 1: people follow them because they have to, because they're so loud.

1053
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 1: They're like, what they're talking about over there? I got

1054
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 1: to go I find it? You know, girls, trip wouldn't

1055
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 1: have made the money made offer just black people. Yeah,

1056
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 1: talking in the movie to the will whoa, Wow, you're

1057
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 1: not in the bottom shop now. You can't be doing that.

1058
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 1: I can't say nothing. My wife is one of the

1059
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 1: worst offenders. How to producer's wife go be in the

1060
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 1: movie that took her the scene. There was a movie called, uh,

1061
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 1: be Quiet? What's the movie? Quiet Place? Quiet Place? The

1062
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 1: whole point of the movie, Shannon Sharp, is you have

1063
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 1: to be quiet or the aliens will hear you and

1064
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 1: kill you. So we're in the movie and everybody's nervous

1065
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 1: on the edge to day seats. You can barely hear

1066
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:56,399
Speaker 1: the popcorn cut to missus pack. Oh no, don't get

1067
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 1: get out of there. Don't go in there, baby Jesus Christ,

1068
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,320
Speaker 1: some fair babies. H what do you think? No? No, no,

1069
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 1: did you see that. It's a quiet movie. My wife

1070
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 1: is a stereotypical black woman in the movie. I can't

1071
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 1: take it. I just I'd be like, we're gonna watch

1072
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 1: it on streaming. Eat your sail. Yeah, man, he was

1073
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 1: in a movie The Beast with beast yep the lion

1074
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 1: shot in the South Africa. Check it out. I can't

1075
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 1: say that was terrible. I wouldn't. But see they killed

1076
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:30,879
Speaker 1: they killed the lie brother. They killed his brother. Well

1077
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: they did, so you know he was gonna get that

1078
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 1: get back. He wanted to get back. And by the way,

1079
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 1: he got a lot of get back eate like ten

1080
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,879
Speaker 1: people and what did you want? You wanted the line

1081
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: to eat interest That wouldn't get But he could have

1082
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 1: got one of the kids, though, said it, shark, you

1083
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:50,280
Speaker 1: know what this is. But we do our packer sharp productions.

1084
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 1: We're gonna have to have a lot of meat because

1085
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 1: your movie is gonna go dark trying to get the

1086
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 1: kids you want to eat. One of the kids was

1087
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,320
Speaker 1: two girls. It was a father and two do you

1088
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 1: want Okay? You know we would have to have a meet.

1089
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 1: But for me and you're going to just producing together,

1090
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 1: we would have to have a talk about how dark

1091
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 1: your movie is gonna be. Brother. Yeah, yeah, I mean,

1092
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 1: well somebody got I mean like Denzel and training date. Ye,

1093
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 1: Denzel got killed off in the ear Beautiful. He deserted

1094
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 1: to get killed. Denzel was the antagonist. Okay, the antagonist

1095
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 1: in this movie was the lion, not Interest. He was

1096
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 1: just trying to defend his family. At what time is

1097
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 1: a production meeting for Factor Sharp Productions? Because we need

1098
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 1: to we need to have a meeting over here at

1099
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:38,800
Speaker 1: the end of the club. His daughter, yes, actually interview

1100
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 1: for the role. How difficult was it to say, sorry,

1101
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,800
Speaker 1: you didn't get it? It was, it was, it was.

1102
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 1: It was not easy. East sign Is her name is

1103
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 1: sign El, but she's an amazing young actress and you're

1104
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 1: gonna be hearing more about her. Right, here's what I'll say.

1105
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 1: He didn't really true that he really didn't want her

1106
00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 1: to to be in it. Yeah, no, that's not true. Okay,

1107
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 1: that's not true. That's not true. I can tell you

1108
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:05,320
Speaker 1: for a fact. To Interest his credit, he said, I

1109
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 1: want the best person for the role. Right. He wasn't like,

1110
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 1: you got it, you know, have my daughter, And he

1111
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 1: wasn't like, I'm not going to have her because she's

1112
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:16,399
Speaker 1: my daughter. She went through the same process as everybody else.

1113
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 1: Came out, auditioned, did callbacks, the whole thing, and ultimately

1114
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,439
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, there was somebody else

1115
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 1: for that role that was better. It just accepted it.

1116
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 1: I called her myself because I've known east Son for

1117
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 1: years and it just go back, right. So I've known

1118
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 1: her and as I said, she's a talent young actor. R.

1119
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 1: She's very mature about it. She was disappointed, obviously, but

1120
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 1: she worked and earned that. I will tell you it

1121
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 1: is somebody else who's like that as Ice Cube. A

1122
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 1: lot of people think that O'sheay just got the role

1123
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 1: and straight out of competent because he was Cube sun

1124
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:52,360
Speaker 1: Ye had audition, callbacks, had to beat out people like

1125
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 1: had to work hard. One thing I will say is

1126
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 1: that those are two people interesting Cube who they're not

1127
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:00,799
Speaker 1: giving anything today because they want him to be stronger. Right.

1128
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 1: You know some of that's cultural too, right. Our parents

1129
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:05,360
Speaker 1: say you gotta work for it, right, I want you

1130
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:07,360
Speaker 1: to have it, but you're gonna be stronger if you

1131
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 1: have to work for it. And that's what happened with

1132
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 1: with with with Interest. But I don't know who else

1133
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:14,799
Speaker 1: could have played a Q because your dad you put

1134
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 1: that curl loader. Yeah, yeah, you produce obsessed with Beyonce

1135
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,359
Speaker 1: and Angels. Yeah, would you like to do another movie?

1136
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 1: For sure? Absolutely? You know she did the Oscars. She

1137
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 1: she doesn't. She doesn't do the Oscars. She that's not

1138
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 1: that's not her thing, right, And it was really only

1139
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:36,800
Speaker 1: because of the relationship that I have with her herself,

1140
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 1: my producing partner, Sheyla Cowen. We called her and you know,

1141
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 1: and and Be made it very clear, the only reason

1142
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 1: I'm opening in the Oscars is because of you. So

1143
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 1: it's that relationship. She is. I would work with her

1144
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 1: in a heartbeat. You wanna talk about work ethics, You're

1145
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,320
Speaker 1: not gonna out work beat. You are not gonna outwork Beyonce.

1146
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 1: Whatever it is she's doing, she goes a thousand percent.

1147
00:54:56,000 --> 00:55:00,840
Speaker 1: She has earned her position rightfully, so because she outworks everybody.

1148
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 1: She's extremely talented. She has all the good she has,

1149
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 1: the skill set, she has to look, the sound, she

1150
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 1: has all of that, but none of that would matter

1151
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 1: if she didn't work as hard as she did. So

1152
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:12,800
Speaker 1: she has a lot of fans. I don't mean fandom,

1153
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:14,839
Speaker 1: I mean people like me that are advocates for her

1154
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 1: within the industry because we know how hard she works

1155
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 1: and she always delivers. You work with Neil Long and

1156
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 1: Uncle Buck. Yeah, and obviously we know what transpired her relationship. Yeah.

1157
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 1: Have you have you spoken to to Neil? I said her. No,

1158
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:31,280
Speaker 1: I haven't. I haven't spoken with her. I wanted to, definitely,

1159
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 1: you know, give her, give her some time. She and

1160
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 1: are good, were close. You know, I've known her for

1161
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 1: years obviously, you know, No, he made through her, and

1162
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 1: you know, just you just you just you just keep

1163
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 1: somebody like that in your prayers. You know what I'm saying.

1164
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 1: You let that be a personal thing. I think he

1165
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 1: will ultimately, you know, land on his feet and they'll

1166
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 1: they'll figure out what they're gonna do, right, uh. Is

1167
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 1: there's somebody that you haven't worked with that you like

1168
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:59,360
Speaker 1: to work with a lot. I haven't worked with Denn's

1169
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:03,879
Speaker 1: You mentioned Zelay, you know, put Sam Jackson. Yeah, put

1170
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 1: it out there. We're gonna make it manifest that Yeah. Yeah,

1171
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 1: I know. And by the way, big supporters like it's

1172
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:11,479
Speaker 1: all love. Like when I see them, they like, hey, brother,

1173
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 1: we see you, Yeah, we see you doing your thing.

1174
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:17,320
Speaker 1: Keep going, you know, very encouraging. So Sam and I

1175
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 1: got close a couple of times. It just hadn't happened yet.

1176
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:21,800
Speaker 1: So it'll happen when us, right. I mean, you know,

1177
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 1: it's kind of like I look at like Denzel and

1178
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:27,399
Speaker 1: I've met him. His son used to work out when

1179
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 1: Savannah used to mean Atlanta. He trained with out training

1180
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:35,360
Speaker 1: We worked out together. But Denzel seems mythical. Yeah, I

1181
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 1: mean that that voice and the annunciation and the cadence. Yeah,

1182
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:43,360
Speaker 1: he don't miss he don't miss no. It ain't a

1183
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:47,840
Speaker 1: bad Denzel. Wrong. You may not like the movie, but

1184
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 1: you Denzel did his thing yet in that movie. Yeah,

1185
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 1: whatever it is from Glory. They film Glory in Savannah.

1186
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 1: We had a lot of people that went out there

1187
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:59,359
Speaker 1: and was extra in Glory and then cry Freedom. Yeah

1188
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 1: to Stephen be Co, absolutely unbelievable. You know one of

1189
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 1: the movies that I like that don't get a whole

1190
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 1: lot of credit. I like Devil and Blue Dress. Yeah, yeah,

1191
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 1: I like mostly Book. Yeah, Harlem Blues. I mean, but

1192
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 1: didn't like you said, Denzel came miss no. Hey he

1193
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 1: got me from Malcolm min like the whole school. I see. Yeah, Man,

1194
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 1: training day with Training Day was great. But by John

1195
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 1: Q Man, I look like I said, I mean, what

1196
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 1: what I mean? What movie they would say, O, Man

1197
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 1: Denzel was whether what movie can't we say, Man Denzel

1198
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 1: was bad in that movie? Not gonna see it. He

1199
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 1: takes it very seriously, but he'd be on it. He

1200
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 1: gonna come yep, absolutely, no, he's a legend. Let's just

1201
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 1: give it to him. I mean, that's that's the goat,

1202
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 1: if there's such a thing. You know what I mean

1203
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 1: when you talk about acting, you know, black or white

1204
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 1: right on any Martin Luther stand on tintoes. But I

1205
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 1: think Blue Devil and Blue Dress is probably the only

1206
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 1: movie Man on Fire on the Pride, the Fire on

1207
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 1: the Pride, you know, Hurricane. I mean, it's like I

1208
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 1: think for me, Malcolm Malcolm X was the movie because

1209
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 1: he looked like him, He spoke like him, the annunciation,

1210
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 1: the phonetic, and the cadence in which he spoke, yes, man,

1211
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 1: he played that part. How he not winning, How you're

1212
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 1: not winning the Academy Award for that? Well you know

1213
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 1: back then, but we already know. But anyway, we're gonna move.

1214
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I think you want to get

1215
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 1: into that Academy and what should and shouldn't have happened. Okay,

1216
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 1: I'm looking looking at Girls Trip Girls Trip too. You

1217
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 1: shot the first one for about about twelve nineteen million dollars.

1218
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 1: Obviously the budget will be a lot bigger this time.

1219
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 1: What how I mean? So where are they going now?

1220
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 1: They went to New Orleans? So what are you going now?

1221
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 1: Were trying to figure it out? Man, I'm hoping to suggestion.

1222
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 1: What you what you think with this blacker sharp? First

1223
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 1: of all, you probably want to kill everybody. Don't killout? No,

1224
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 1: you know, girls they go to Miami, they go to

1225
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 1: the Dominican, they go to uh Jamaica. Yes, uh it's Dominican.

1226
00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 1: Really that popular with the ladies though, that wasn't I know,

1227
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 1: the fellas go to Dominican all the time. Why do

1228
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 1: you think they going well? Golf? Okay, let you tell it.

1229
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 1: I never heard of now golf course, republic battle boarding?

1230
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 1: You know? Would I would keep shading sharp with an eye?

1231
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean That's what I'm thinking of me.

1232
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 1: Yet I go somewhere. Yeah, but I could do better

1233
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 1: than that. You don't think you gotta be we don't

1234
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 1: want to go exotic. I'm telling were having a little concession, right,

1235
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 1: Dominican is good. I just don't know if that's like

1236
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 1: when you talk about girlfriends and they say, Okay, we're

1237
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:38,320
Speaker 1: gonna do a girlfriend's trip, where do we most want

1238
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 1: to go? Is DR on that list? Maybe it is? Yeah, Okay, Jamaica. Okay,

1239
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 1: you spend a lot of time in DR. No, No,

1240
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 1: you broke your voice, got real high on that answer. Uh,

1241
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 1: I'm not. No, I've never been to I've never been

1242
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 1: to Why are you stuttering? No? I haven't You've never

1243
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 1: been to Dominican? I have not, seriously, no, really never

1244
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 1: been to Jamaica. What we got to get you in

1245
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 1: the Caribbean? Come on? What you're doing? What's what's wrong

1246
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:09,480
Speaker 1: with the Caribbean. I'm trying got great, I'm trying a

1247
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 1: lot of im. I'm trying to get and stay in

1248
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:14,480
Speaker 1: a relationship. That's what I'm trying to do. And the

1249
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:17,920
Speaker 1: Dominican is not going to help that. I see you're

1250
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 1: not trying to help. You produced the oscars did and

1251
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 1: that moment happened. When did you did you think, like

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01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:38,439
Speaker 1: when Chris Rock said the joke and then as Will

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01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 1: got up, did you think it would go the way

1254
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 1: it went? And when it happened, what went through your mind?

1255
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 1: So when you do a big live show like that, yes,

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01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 1: you have many rehearsals, Okay, you do the whole show, Yes,

1257
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 1: and you run it through multiple times. Yes, I know, yeah,

1258
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 1: it's I You want very little room for error, so

1259
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 1: you rehearse every aspect of the show. So we had

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01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 1: done Chris's part of the show right in there on

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01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:13,400
Speaker 1: the stage. He had done his monologue, his little you know,

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01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 1: his jokes, He had a section already worked out, and

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01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 1: when he got up, almost immediately he was off book

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01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:24,960
Speaker 1: from the monologue that we had rehearsed, right, And so

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01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 1: I didn't think much of it at all, because it's

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01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 1: rock right. So if it's anybody you want to go

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01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:31,920
Speaker 1: off book's Rob he got this. He gonna play to

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01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 1: the crowd. When he made the joke. The first thing

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Speaker 1: that the director did was was pan to Jada, no question,

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01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 1: And when Jada made that face that clearly said I

1271
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 1: am not amusing. This is not funny to me, I cringed.

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01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 1: I immediately went because if she had kind of laughed

1273
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 1: at it, it still would have been kind of a

1274
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:01,439
Speaker 1: you know, okay rocky going there. But if she laughed

1275
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 1: at it. We would have just kept it moved right

1276
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 1: when she made that face, I said, okay, I said,

1277
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:06,720
Speaker 1: a right, Rock, bring it back. This is me. I'm

1278
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 1: in it back, but I'm not in his ear. He's

1279
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 1: not even you don't have to. I'm in my director's

1280
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:16,520
Speaker 1: ear right, and we're talking to our camera people because

1281
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:18,480
Speaker 1: we're trying to decide where to go, meaning with a

1282
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 1: camera right right, So I said, oh, bring it back,

1283
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 1: Come on, Rock, bring it back, all right? You know?

1284
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 1: Then you see Will starting to come towards the state

1285
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 1: right when I tell you, nobody in that room knew

1286
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 1: what was about to happen other than Will, And I'm

1287
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 1: not even sure Will know about that, but he stood

1288
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 1: up right, so no, I did not know. And when

1289
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 1: he got up, I wasn't sure that it had actually

1290
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 1: been a slap, right. I thought this was some kind

1291
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:50,960
Speaker 1: of her bad joke that the two of them, but

1292
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 1: wasn't that funny? So I said, okay, well, you got

1293
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:55,040
Speaker 1: to clean this up, right, you gotta y'all gotta bring

1294
01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 1: it back or make a joke or something. And it

1295
01:02:57,240 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 1: wuntil Will got back in the seat and he started

1296
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:01,400
Speaker 1: yelling what he yelled to the stage yet we all knew, Oh,

1297
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:04,400
Speaker 1: it's just real. We got problem. Did you ever think

1298
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 1: about fade the black? Here's the thing, that question, I've

1299
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 1: been asked that, right, So here's what happened. When you

1300
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 1: do a live television Yes, you are literally it's like

1301
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 1: a tennis match. You're following the balls. Yep. So he

1302
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:19,400
Speaker 1: made the joke. We cut to Jada because it was

1303
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 1: about Jada. We had cameras all through the audience. Will

1304
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 1: went on stage. We still did not know it was

1305
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 1: serious until Will started yelling what he was yelling, Right,

1306
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:30,640
Speaker 1: we're covering him because that's what you do. You're following it.

1307
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 1: You don't want to miss the joke if it's some

1308
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:34,480
Speaker 1: kind of a joke. Once we realized that he was

1309
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 1: dead serious about it, we had nowhere to cut to. Okay,

1310
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:41,960
Speaker 1: we're in the middle of presenting the award for documentary

1311
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:46,440
Speaker 1: which quest Love in the winning I didn't have anywhere

1312
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 1: to go but to follow the action in that room, right,

1313
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:52,439
Speaker 1: And it happened so fast that we didn't know, Okay,

1314
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 1: we need to fade the black, go to commercials. No,

1315
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:56,720
Speaker 1: it was like, okay, how do we get out of this? Right?

1316
01:03:56,840 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 1: All we could do at that point was followed action.

1317
01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:00,360
Speaker 1: I didn't have Some people ask why didn't you cut

1318
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:02,520
Speaker 1: to somebody else in the room? Get off of Will.

1319
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 1: I'd have a person in that room I could cut you.

1320
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:09,440
Speaker 1: Because everybody's faces was right, shock a gas right right?

1321
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:12,440
Speaker 1: So did they know? Did they know it was for real?

1322
01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:14,480
Speaker 1: Because you said you thought it was a joke. None

1323
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 1: of us knew us for real until Will got back

1324
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 1: to the seat and started saying, so yelling, I told

1325
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:21,160
Speaker 1: you to leave my that is correct. At that point,

1326
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:23,800
Speaker 1: it was clear this ain't a joke. He's serious. We

1327
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:26,200
Speaker 1: could tell by chris reaction, by the way Chris saved

1328
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 1: the rest of the show. I know, I know, I

1329
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 1: already know what you about to because this you know

1330
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 1: what y'all about to get right now in club sha shape,

1331
01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 1: y'all about to get up. You better be glad it

1332
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 1: wasn't me. That's you're about to get up? What would

1333
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:40,960
Speaker 1: happen if you was up there? Chris is the ultimate

1334
01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 1: first of all, Will you and I both know and

1335
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 1: nobody running up he'd never done that. I don't want

1336
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:50,480
Speaker 1: Will Smith cancel, but I felt that there are a

1337
01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:53,040
Speaker 1: lot of people that's made jokes about Jada. I didn't think.

1338
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:55,600
Speaker 1: I didn't think it was such an egregious joke that

1339
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:58,600
Speaker 1: wanted that type of reaction. That's not my wife, so

1340
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:00,640
Speaker 1: I can't maybe somebody to say if I'm married and

1341
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:03,560
Speaker 1: somebody said something. But I think this was a build up.

1342
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 1: That wasn't that that joke wasn't what caused that. There's

1343
01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:09,920
Speaker 1: a build up that people have been taken to saying

1344
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 1: things about Will how he the first guy to win

1345
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 1: a Grammar for rap? How he the first guy to

1346
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:17,080
Speaker 1: do and it's it kept building, it kept building, and

1347
01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:19,960
Speaker 1: it reached that crescendo that night. I hate that it

1348
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:22,440
Speaker 1: reached that crescendo that night because that was his night,

1349
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:26,400
Speaker 1: and unfortunately his Knight's gonna be overshadow for perpetuity for

1350
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:28,960
Speaker 1: that incident. That is correct, That is correct. It will

1351
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 1: always be remembered by that. I also hate it because

1352
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:34,040
Speaker 1: it was a good show. It was great. I'm just

1353
01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:36,880
Speaker 1: gonna tell you, and yeah, you know I did it,

1354
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:39,040
Speaker 1: mean Sayla, we made it. You know, we made the show.

1355
01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:41,480
Speaker 1: I'm proud of it. But even if I didn't, we

1356
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 1: had more people watched that show than had in years.

1357
01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 1: My goal was to reverse the trend of the ratings

1358
01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:49,479
Speaker 1: going right, we did outside of the slap, I ain't

1359
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:52,160
Speaker 1: a lot. I'm gonna watch it. I just tuned in

1360
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 1: and it just until happened. I tuned in that. However,

1361
01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:58,400
Speaker 1: you're tuned in for the slap, you were supposed to

1362
01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:01,120
Speaker 1: what I had, Beyonce, I had megan it. Stallion, come on,

1363
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 1: I had a good show for you. I know why

1364
01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 1: did you not watch the watch the whole show? But

1365
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:11,520
Speaker 1: then after he did that, I get back. You know,

1366
01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:13,560
Speaker 1: we gotta get baby, we gotta steal me. I gotta

1367
01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:16,680
Speaker 1: stack left. PRIs left immediately. He didn't want to parts

1368
01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:19,160
Speaker 1: of he got off stage. I went back talked to

1369
01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:22,160
Speaker 1: him at a conversation. I can't believe that, you know

1370
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:24,000
Speaker 1: what did? He said, Man, I'm out of here. He said,

1371
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 1: this is stupid. He said, I'm out. I said, you

1372
01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:28,360
Speaker 1: sure you're good? What you want me to do? He

1373
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 1: was like, man, I'm I'm He was on his way

1374
01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:33,000
Speaker 1: to Guy Fierre's after part. He said, I'm about to

1375
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:35,640
Speaker 1: go get me a drink. I'm this is stupid. He was.

1376
01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:37,680
Speaker 1: He was so kind of disgusted with it all. He

1377
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 1: just wanted to get out, right. Did you talk to

1378
01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:42,880
Speaker 1: Will after the show? Did you talk to I talked

1379
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 1: to everybody. I talked to everybody. He was very remorseful,

1380
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:49,720
Speaker 1: still is very remorseful. Yeah, yeah, and he felt very bad.

1381
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:53,200
Speaker 1: He had a personal conversation with me because this was

1382
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:56,440
Speaker 1: the first Oscars that was produced by an all black produce. Yes,

1383
01:06:56,960 --> 01:07:00,280
Speaker 1: this is the first time in Oscar's history. Yes, everything

1384
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:06,160
Speaker 1: everything was black. Cater service were black cat and Bachie everything. Everything.

1385
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:09,480
Speaker 1: We had black conductor. Yeah, people that were bringing out

1386
01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:15,120
Speaker 1: the Oscar HBC. I had d night spinning. We're gonna

1387
01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:17,720
Speaker 1: have some flavor now, you know what I'm saying. It

1388
01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:19,520
Speaker 1: was a good show. I'm proud of the show. I

1389
01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:21,680
Speaker 1: wanted to have representation you don't normally see on night

1390
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:25,240
Speaker 1: on that stage. I hate that. Ultimately that night when

1391
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:29,240
Speaker 1: we had so much black excellent, yes, and just diverse excellent. Right,

1392
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 1: I don't care if you're talking about blacks, latinos uh, deaf,

1393
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 1: the first deaf actor to win a winn an Oscar,

1394
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:38,880
Speaker 1: all of that. I'm very, very proud of first first

1395
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:43,760
Speaker 1: non binary queer actress, Ariana de bos. At the end

1396
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:47,040
Speaker 1: of the day, I think the show, you know, of course,

1397
01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:49,120
Speaker 1: that is something that will be remembered by but I'm

1398
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:51,920
Speaker 1: very proud of the substance of the show, and a

1399
01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:54,040
Speaker 1: lot of people tuned in even though you didn't help.

1400
01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:57,480
Speaker 1: Thank you. You watched too late. No no, if you

1401
01:07:57,640 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 1: tune in with the slap, the ratings are already in.

1402
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 1: It was too late. What I'm telling you, the ray

1403
01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:05,240
Speaker 1: I went up sixty percent before the slap by the

1404
01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 1: time you get there. That was in the third hour

1405
01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:09,000
Speaker 1: of the show. But but what were you watching on

1406
01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:12,000
Speaker 1: Sunday night? Other than then the oscars in Factory Football

1407
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:14,439
Speaker 1: went on? What was you doing? I don't remember. Huh,

1408
01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:18,599
Speaker 1: I don't remember right playing that trip to dr stick

1409
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:21,600
Speaker 1: with me? But I got it. Oh yeah, now I

1410
01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 1: got to stay. I leave. He was gonna You know. Look,

1411
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:27,400
Speaker 1: you know how people watch television. They watched television. Okay,

1412
01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 1: I watched a little bit. I flipped with something else.

1413
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:31,600
Speaker 1: I come back. I flipped. But once I saw that

1414
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:34,240
Speaker 1: I couldn't see. I had to see what was don't

1415
01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:36,080
Speaker 1: cut the break, because they cut the break, I might

1416
01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:41,559
Speaker 1: miss up they will. I appreciate my brother's much love.

1417
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:44,080
Speaker 1: I appreciate everything you do. Give me a couple of minutes,

1418
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:47,360
Speaker 1: Come on, man, anytime, brother, Thank you all my life

1419
01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:52,719
Speaker 1: grounding all my life. Sack fights, Hustle back, Chris. One slice,

1420
01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:55,320
Speaker 1: got the bro the dice to swap all my life.

1421
01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:58,719
Speaker 1: I've been grinding all my life, all my life, running

1422
01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:03,400
Speaker 1: all my life, Sacrifice, hustle Bay. The prices want a slice,

1423
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:06,240
Speaker 1: not the brawling dice as wall all my life, I've

1424
01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:07,360
Speaker 1: been running all my life