1 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 2: This is the. 3 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 3: Blueberg Day BAQ podcast, available every morning on Apple, Spotify 4 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 3: or wherever you listen. It's Thursday, the sixth of February 5 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 3: in London. I'm Caroline Hepke and. 6 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 4: I'm Stephen Carroll. 7 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: Coming up today, the Trump administration is poised to unveil 8 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 1: its plan to end Russia's war in Ukraine. 9 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 3: The Bank of England is expected to reduce interest rates 10 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 3: and its GDP forecast in what could be a bad 11 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 3: day for Rachel Reeves and her growth agenda. 12 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 1: Plus big business does a big walk back, Google joins 13 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: other US firms and ending policies to improve diversity. 14 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 3: Let's start with a roundup of our top stories. 15 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 1: US allies expect President Trump's administration to present a long 16 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: awaited plan to end Russia's war in Ukraine next week. 17 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: Bloomberg understands the proposals include freezing the conflict and leaving 18 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: territory occupied by Russian forces in Limbo, providing Ukraine with 19 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: security guarantees, and holding elections in the country after a ceasefire. 20 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 1: The plan comes as Ukraine's presence Zelanski has re emphasized 21 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 1: his belief that American troops need to be involved in 22 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: any peacekeeping force in his country. 23 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 4: Chiev operative does that UNI. 24 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 2: Is Europe enough, No, because this isn't just a matter 25 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 2: of numbers. It's about sharing responsibility and ensuring security guarantees. 26 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 2: This cannot be pursued without the involvement of the United States. 27 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: Vladimir Zelenski, speaking there through a translator to Sky News. 28 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: The blueprint is expected to pre presented at the Munich 29 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 1: Security Conference in Germany next week by Trump's Special representative 30 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: for Ukraine and Russia, the retired General Keith Kellogg. 31 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 3: President Trump's aides have sought to tone down his controversial 32 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 3: proposal to quote own Gaza. Trump suggested that the US 33 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 3: could rebuild the war ravaged territory, displacing more than two 34 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 3: million Garsens, even raising the possibility of deploying US troops. 35 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 3: The proposal was widely condemned in the Middle East and 36 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 3: among Washington's European allies, and welcomed in Israel as a 37 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 3: way to end the war with Hamas, But the message 38 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 3: from White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt is that President 39 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 3: Trump was thinking creatively. 40 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 5: The President has not committed to putting boots on the 41 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 5: ground in Gaza. He has also said that the United 42 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 5: States is not going to pay for the rebuilding of Gaza. 43 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 5: His administration is going to work with our partners in 44 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 5: the region to reconstruct this region. 45 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 3: The White House pers Secretary speaking them they cease far 46 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 3: between Israel and hamas began last month. Talks about a 47 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 3: second phase got underway this week. 48 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: Google has told its employees the company will no longer 49 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 1: seek to improve the diversity of its workforce. An internal 50 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 1: memo seen by Bloomberg said the alphabet company would scrap 51 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: aspirational goals tied to representation. The change marks the latest 52 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: step in Silicon Valley's retreat from DEI initiatives, which have 53 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 1: been rejected by President Trump's administration. It follows seminar steps 54 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: from tech rivals like Amazon, Meta, and Walmart amid pressure 55 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:10,279 Speaker 1: and legal challenges. 56 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 3: The US Treasury Secretary says that Trump's administration will focus 57 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 3: on bringing down ten year treasury yields and not on 58 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 3: the Federal Reserve's benchmark interest rate. Scott Bessen told Fox 59 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 3: Business that he believes expanding the energy supply will help 60 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 3: lower inflation and that reducing the budget deficit will reduce 61 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:31,399 Speaker 3: ten year yields. 62 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 6: So the purpose of lowering interest rates is the lower 63 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 6: interest rates the Federal Reserve that and I will only 64 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 6: talk about what they've done, not what I think they 65 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 6: should do from now on. They did a jumbo rate 66 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 6: cut and the tenure rate went up. Now I've seen 67 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 6: this year, despite the growth estimates going up, tenures coming 68 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 6: down because I believe the bond market is recognizing energy 69 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 6: prices will be lower. 70 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 3: Treasury sectary Scott Bessen, speaking their to Fox News, the 71 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 3: administration's goal is to achieve non inflationary growth with best 72 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 3: at supporting making the twenty seventeen Tax Cuts and Jobs 73 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 3: Act permanent to continue US economic growth. 74 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: The Bank of England is expected to cut its base 75 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 1: rate to four and a half percent later today. 76 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 4: While the move lower will. 77 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: Be welcomed by many, the outlook that will accompany US 78 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: will not, as the Central Bank is expected to downgrade 79 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: its UK growth forecasts and warrant of higher inflation for 80 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:31,919 Speaker 1: the year ahead. As You and Parts in Now reports, 81 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 1: the bank's latest projections may make for uncomfortable reading for 82 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: the Chancellor. 83 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:37,919 Speaker 4: Rachel reeves there's. 84 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 7: Likely to be good news and bad for the Chancellor today. 85 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 7: Economists and traders are all but certain the Bank of 86 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 7: England will cut UK interest rates by a quarter point 87 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 7: at the NBC meeting today, but much of the focus 88 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 7: will be on the bank's growth forecasts, and this is 89 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 7: where things could get ugly, with downgrades expected to the 90 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 7: estimates for this year, next year and for twenty twenty seven. 91 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:02,359 Speaker 7: Economist survey by Bloomberg also expect the inflation forecast to 92 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 7: move in the wrong direction, with food and energy prices 93 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 7: proving sticky, little to no growth and inflation above target 94 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 7: means the UK economy is sailing dangerously close to stagflation 95 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 7: territory and that's definitely not the growth narrative. The government 96 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 7: is so keen to promote ew and pots Bloomberg Radio. 97 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: And we'll have live coverage out of the Bank of 98 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: England decision at midday London time on Bloomberg Radio, including 99 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: the press conference by Governor Andrew Bailey. 100 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 3: Now to the latest earnings. Socity General has announced a 101 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:36,559 Speaker 3: one point seven billion euro investor payout for last year 102 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 3: as fourth quarter profits beat expectations. The French bank said 103 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 3: that net income more than doubled from a year earlier 104 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 3: to one point zero four billion euros and its set 105 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:51,039 Speaker 3: a target for revenue growth for this year of three percent. 106 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 3: The lender also says that it is beginning to see 107 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 3: the benefit of the earlier period of rate hikes in 108 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 3: the French retail business. 109 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 1: France's Prime Minister Froansalbairoux has survived two no confidence motions 110 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: in Parliament, assuring the passage of his twenty twenty five 111 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:11,239 Speaker 1: budget following months of political turmoil. The new budget includes 112 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 1: concessions to the Socialist Party with fifty two billion euros 113 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 1: worth of savings to reach a deficit of five point 114 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 1: four percent of GDP next year. Our Paris or chief 115 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: Allan Katz says voters have grown tired of delays. 116 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 8: The French public was not in the mood for months 117 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 8: more of this political and financial turmoil. It really had 118 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 8: slowed down investment in any sort of decision making with businesses, 119 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:37,799 Speaker 8: and so these political groups that pushed out the former 120 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 8: prime minister really sort of, I think felt under the 121 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 8: gun not to prolong any sort of additional uncertainty or 122 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 8: turmoil in France. 123 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: Plimberg's Allen Katz speaking there, French bonds rallied this week, 124 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: although BYU has described the budget bill as imperfect countries 125 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: on its third government since President Emmanuel Macron called snap 126 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: elections last summer, in which no party cured a majority 127 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 1: in the National Assembly. 128 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 3: Those are our top stories for you this morning. Let's 129 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 3: have a look at the market's Asian equities are advancing. 130 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 3: You got the mscihed Specific Index up by two tenths 131 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 3: of one percent and quite a significant surge with the 132 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 3: CSI three hundred in China at one point one percent. 133 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 3: European stop futures also looking at positive this morning. Your 134 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 3: SOX fifty futures are up by half of one percent. 135 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 3: This is the yen outperforms policymaker Tamura flagging the need 136 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 3: for two or more Japanese rate hikes early next year. 137 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 3: The Blue Big Dollar Spot Index up two tents of 138 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 3: one percent, all prices fairly calm w CICUD futures up 139 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 3: four tens, seventy one dollars thirty four and tenure US 140 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 3: yields moving a basis high at four forty three. 141 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 4: Those the markets in the moment. 142 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: We'll bring you more on the US plan to and 143 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: the war in Ukraine, plus Google landing its workforce diversity programs. 144 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: But another story that caught my eye this morning, New Carlina. 145 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,119 Speaker 1: I know that you're not a coffee drinker, and I wondered, thus, 146 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: how baffling you find people's very complicated coffee orders. I 147 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: do drink coffee, and I still can't believe how long 148 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: it could take some people to order a coffee. 149 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 3: I can never remember what coffee you drink, but I 150 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:06,559 Speaker 3: do get you on in the morning. 151 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 9: Sometimes. 152 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 3: This is all about Starbucks, and apparently you can order 153 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 3: all your drinks on the app and you have them 154 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 3: there ready. Although I noticed that Starbucks actually knows how 155 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 3: long it takes you to pick up your coffee from 156 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 3: the end of the counter. 157 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 4: This is the data powers everything else. 158 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 3: They have a metric for that. But yes, they want 159 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 3: to make it easier for the baristas. They are cutting 160 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 3: the number of drinks you can order online and they 161 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 3: want you to make them. 162 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 9: Yeah. 163 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:35,959 Speaker 1: Sure, there will be fewer options for people to take 164 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: as well. They're going to try and simplify the whole process. 165 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 1: This is all part of the CEO's efforts as part 166 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: of the turnaround that he's driving at the company as 167 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: well to cut waiting times. His whole broader goal is 168 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: to make ordering and working at Starbucks less chaotic four 169 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:51,959 Speaker 1: minutes is what he says. People should have to wait 170 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: in person for drinks when they walk in as well. 171 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:56,319 Speaker 4: There are still plenty of options available. 172 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: People will still be listing off six ingredients to you, Caroline, 173 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: if they're giving you their coffee or or, but there 174 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: will be fewer options than they had before, which is 175 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: all part of this effort. 176 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,079 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I wonder how much the writer on this 177 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:09,959 Speaker 3: story has John in terms of coffee. Daniella sity it's 178 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 3: her story today on the Blueberg terminal. 179 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 4: Let's bring you up to our top story now. 180 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 1: And President Trump's blueprint to end the war in Ukraine 181 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: may be delivered at the Munich Security Conference next week. 182 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 1: Our EMEA ands director Rozma Mathson is with us for more. 183 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: Raz Good morning. What are the outlines of this plan 184 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: for Ukraine after three years since Russia's full scale invasion. 185 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 9: Well, a lot of it is still actually not that clear. 186 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 10: But what seems to be within the parameters of it, 187 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 10: and it might come from Keith Kellogg, who's the key 188 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 10: aid for Trump on Ukraine, is a plan to essentially 189 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 10: freeze the conflict, and that means that the land that 190 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 10: Russia is occupying you know, doesn't really revert to Ukraine, 191 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 10: it just gets frozen and Russian troops may end up 192 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 10: staying there and occupying. And obviously the longer you just 193 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 10: occupy land, the it is to evict you in general. 194 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 10: So that may not be a bad result for Russia 195 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 10: to be able to freeze the conflict in place, but 196 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 10: what you're doing is trying to prevent them going any further. 197 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 10: And so you offer Ukraine some sort of security guarantees. 198 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 10: We don't know again what those would look like. We 199 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 10: know there's been a concern from some quarters about any 200 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 10: kind of move to bring Ukraine into NATO, and that 201 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 10: doesn't seem to be on the table in the short term. 202 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 10: But what kind of security guarantees does that include? So 203 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 10: you've got those two parameters, which essentially stops the fighting 204 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:36,959 Speaker 10: or slows it down. You can't imagine it would stop entirely. 205 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 10: And that may pave the way, then, for example, for 206 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 10: elections to happen in Ukraine and for martial law to 207 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 10: be lifted. 208 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 3: Although Ukraine does have troops on Russian Turtin has done 209 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 3: for six months, So that's also an interesting angle. What 210 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 3: do you think would there be talks between Putin and Zelensky, 211 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 3: might we see that well? 212 00:10:56,600 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 10: To your point, absolutely, Ukraine is occupying. It's a very 213 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 10: small part of Russian territory and curse, but they've got 214 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 10: it and they've stayed there for months, and that's that's 215 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 10: possibly quite a good bargaining chip for Ukraine because it's 216 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:14,079 Speaker 10: just constantly frustrating and embarrassing, no doubt for Vladimir Putin 217 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 10: to have them there. 218 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 9: So they've obviously decided. 219 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 10: To hold on to that land no matter what, to 220 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 10: use it in any negotiation. I mean, we are seeing 221 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 10: signs that vod Mislinsky would be willing to sit down 222 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 10: with Vladimir Putin and try and talk through some sort 223 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 10: of solution to this. The question is in what order 224 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 10: would any of those conversations happen, And would Vladimir Putin 225 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 10: no doubt prefer to talk first with Donald Trump and 226 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 10: try and channel and negotiation in a way directly through 227 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 10: the US. And that's Ukraine's concern, is that things kind 228 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 10: of get agreed between Russia and the US and perhaps 229 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 10: others before there's actually a conversation directly between Ukraine and Russia. 230 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: What about China's role in all of this as well? 231 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: Do we know how Beijing are likely to approach this. 232 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 10: Well, we know that Beijing has been generally favoring some 233 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 10: kind of solution to this, and something that just freezes 234 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 10: the conflict and allows people to say that the war 235 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 10: has come to a halt at least for now. It 236 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 10: might be something that China would support. You know, there's 237 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 10: been a lot of talk about China's view on this, 238 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 10: whether they are overtly or tacitly supporting Russia by continuing 239 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 10: to deal with them economically, by giving them cover diplomatically 240 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 10: and so on, providing the essential tools for technology that 241 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 10: find their way into weapons. 242 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 9: And that's all probably true. 243 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 10: But China equally does seem to want this war at 244 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 10: least to come to some kind of resolution, so you 245 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 10: can imagine they'd be encouraging of that process. 246 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 3: Well, thank you so much for being with us this 247 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 3: morning on that our top story around this blueprint and 248 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 3: the war in Ukraine. Bloomberg's EMEA News director Rosly Matheson. 249 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 1: Now Google is ending its diversity, equity and inclusion goals 250 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: for its workforce, dropping the commitment to improve diversity after 251 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 1: a similar decision from Amazon, Meta and Walmart. Brigs two 252 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: had bios here with more on this story, Tia, What 253 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 1: were Google's aims and what have they changed? 254 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 11: Well, the real crux of this story is that Google 255 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 11: is no longer formally seeking to improve diversity in its workforce. 256 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 11: So the company put out an internal memo to employees 257 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 11: and it said that it's dropping what it's referring to 258 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 11: as aspirational goals tied to representation. And that also comes 259 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 11: as this week, Alphabet, the parent company of Google, filed 260 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 11: and annual filing with the SEC, which emitted a line 261 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 11: saying that it was committed to making diversity, equity, and 262 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 11: inclusion part of everything we do and to growing a 263 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 11: representative workforce. That statement words that effect had appeared in 264 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 11: its annual reports from twenty twenty one to twenty twenty three, 265 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 11: so a significant emission there. 266 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:55,359 Speaker 4: But what does this look like in practice? 267 00:13:55,520 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 11: Well, previously the company had ambitions to hire more employees 268 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 11: from historically underrepresented groups and that's what they're scrapping. So, 269 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 11: just to give you an example, in the memo that 270 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 11: was sent to the employees, their head of HR said 271 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 11: that they set in twenty twenty aspirational hiring goals focused 272 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 11: on growing their offices outside of California and New York, 273 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 11: for example, to improve representation, and they say in the future, 274 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 11: we will no longer have aspirational goals like that. So 275 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 11: it's important to remember that these changes won't just affect 276 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 11: underrepresented ethnic groups, for example. It covers the full spectrum 277 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 11: of representation, including other metrics like geographic location. But it's 278 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 11: worth also mentioning Google's explanation about all of this. The 279 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 11: company has said in a statement after that news broke 280 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 11: that they're committed to creating a workplace where all employees 281 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 11: can succeed and have equal opportunities, and they've added that 282 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 11: they're just reviewing the programs that they have that are 283 00:14:58,240 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 11: designed to help them reach that tar. 284 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 3: How much pressure is there from the top administration to 285 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 3: reverse DEI. 286 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 11: What we've heard from Google itself actually that some of 287 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 11: these changes are being driven, at least in part by 288 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 11: directives from the Trump administration. So the company says that 289 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 11: it's evaluating changes required following recent court decisions and executive 290 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 11: orders from the President on DEI, and that's because it 291 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 11: has status as a federal contractor, and actually Alphabet is 292 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 11: already facing legal challenges to do a DEI. There's an 293 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 11: anti DEI shareholder proposal from the state of Oklahoma, which 294 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 11: is trying to use its influence as an investor to 295 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 11: end DEI in corporate America. So they're already having some 296 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 11: issues there and actually zooming out for a minute to 297 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 11: the wider Silicon Valley landscape. Google isn't alone in this shift. 298 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 11: We've seen similar from peers, including Amazon and Meta. They've 299 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 11: also retrieved from deipolicies in recent months following the pressure. 300 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 11: It's interesting to note that the CEOs of both Meta 301 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 11: and Amazon, Mark Zuckerberg and Jeff Bezos, both attended Donald 302 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 11: Trump's inauguration last month, so it's definitely a sort of 303 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 11: change in climate for the sector. 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