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Speaker 1: Welcome to Colts Round Table Live on ninety three five

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Speaker 1: and one oh seven five the fans nicked up by

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Speaker 1: off the Taylor right up the gun. Hey's there, we're

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Speaker 1: talking cold San recapping the action dy bomb sixty two yards. Now.

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Speaker 1: Here's the voice of the Colts, Matt Taylor. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: Colts are on the by and trying to compartmentalize Sunday

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Speaker 1: Night football and Dallas losing to the Cowboys fifty four

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Speaker 1: to nineteen, and the fourth quarter was a period to

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Speaker 1: forget for the Colts. The Colts entered the fourth quarter

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Speaker 1: trailing the Cowboys only twenty one to nineteen, but the

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Speaker 1: Colts would turn the ball over on offense on four

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Speaker 1: straight possessions in the final frame, which led to thirty

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Speaker 1: three Cowboy points Dallas twenty eight to nineteen with thirteen

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Speaker 1: touchdown on offense, but then on the next drive for

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Speaker 1: the Colts Mo l A. Cox lost a fumble on

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Speaker 1: a tight end screen and it was returned thirty eight

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Speaker 1: yards by former Colts safety Malik Hooker. That made the

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Speaker 1: score thirty four to nineteen after a miss two point

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Speaker 1: conversion by the Cowboys. At that point, the Colts were

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Speaker 1: down big. They had to throw their way back into

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Speaker 1: the game, and it got even worse. The Colts would

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Speaker 1: turn the ball over a season high five times for

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Speaker 1: the game, which led to twenty nine points off of

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Speaker 1: the fourth quarter are tied for the second most points

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Speaker 1: any team has scored in the fourth quarter of a

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Speaker 1: game in NFL history, and the Colts in one single

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Speaker 1: quarter allowed more points than they did in any game

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Speaker 1: this season, and the fifty four points allowed was the

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Speaker 1: third most since the Colts moved to Indianapolis. And the

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Speaker 1: offense has now turned the ball over twenty six times

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Speaker 1: on the season, that's the most in the NFL, and

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Speaker 1: those turnovers on offense for the Colts have led to

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Speaker 1: a lead high ninety three points off of turnovers in

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Speaker 1: Indianapolis now sits minus fourteen on the year, and turnover

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Speaker 1: margin The loss drops the Colts down to four eight

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Speaker 1: and one on the season. They've dropped three games in

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Speaker 1: a row, They've lost six of their last seven, and

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Speaker 1: now it's a week off. The Colts have the latest

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Speaker 1: buy in the NFL, trying to get right, trying to

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Speaker 1: get healthy, and there's four games to play once the

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Speaker 1: team returns to work next week. We're loaded up on

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Speaker 1: Colts content like we always are tonight. Starting on the

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Speaker 1: next segment, Colts analyst Rick Venturry and Joe writes They're

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Speaker 1: gonna join me and we're taking your Twitter questions tonight

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Speaker 1: with Rick and Joe and also with interim head coach

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Speaker 1: Jeff Saturday coming up here momentarily. You can tweet in

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Speaker 1: your questions tonight using hashtag Colts Roundtable and we'll squeeze

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Speaker 1: in as many of those as we can tonight. Again

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Speaker 1: as promised, Jeff Saturday, interim head coach of the Colts.

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Speaker 1: He's in studio with us tonight, brought to you by

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Speaker 1: on Colts Roundtable Live. Jeff, that game, it certainly got

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Speaker 1: out of hand there in the fourth quarter. What made

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Speaker 1: it was you can't turn a ball over in general,

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Speaker 1: the first play on the on the tight end screen,

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Speaker 1: will you consider changing quarterbacks to see what Sam Ellinger

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Speaker 1: Have those conversations. Honestly, this is my first bye week, right,

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Speaker 1: the stretch. Here, let's talk about some potential experiments. Joe

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Speaker 1: so So, Matt Ryan, obviously under contract through next season,

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Speaker 1: but this season unfortunately leads the NFL and picks with

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Speaker 1: thirteen and turnovers in totality with eighteen fourteen fumbles. That

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Speaker 1: is a Colts franchise record. Meanwhile, the Colts may Nick

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Speaker 1: Foles the backup quarterback on Sunday Night over Sam Ellinger.

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Speaker 1: So making Sam Ellinger kind of you know, he's definitely

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Speaker 1: had a an up and down season just in terms

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Speaker 1: of roster movement, right, I mean, he's he was the

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Speaker 1: third string quarterback, then the backup quarterback, then the starting quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Now he's back to the third string quarterback. He was

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Speaker 1: not dressed yesterday, not active against the Cowboys on Sunday

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Speaker 1: Night Football, Joe. So, making Sam Ellinger the starting quarterback

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Speaker 1: with four games to play? Is that an experiment worth conducting?

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Speaker 1: I think so from my vantage point, because when you

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Speaker 1: look at Ellinger, you know, he's gone up and down

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Speaker 1: the pyramid so far. Right, he started at three, then

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Speaker 1: he became the backup. He's the starter for two games.

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Speaker 1: Thought that he played pretty well for his first start

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Speaker 1: against Washington. You know, the New England game was a debacle,

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Speaker 1: but that was kind of across all the board. But

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Speaker 1: in my opinion, you know, you start thinking about this

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Speaker 1: team and you start thinking about Ellinger, you want to

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Speaker 1: know what kind of guy is he? Is he a

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Speaker 1: guy that could be a starter down the road, could

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Speaker 1: he be your backup? And I just think you want

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Speaker 1: more film on him in game action. Obviously it's well

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Speaker 1: documented how strong he was in the preseason, but he's

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Speaker 1: got to get real reps against number one guys to

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Speaker 1: really see what he can be and to grow and

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Speaker 1: to learn. And so, in my opinion, coming off the

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Speaker 1: bye week, I'm sure that's a decision that Saturday and

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Speaker 1: the rest of the coaches will have to make. But

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Speaker 1: also with Matt Ryan's turnovers, I mean, when you're talking

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Speaker 1: about historical turnover margins, right, you mentioned the eighteen turnovers,

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Speaker 1: thirteen picks and fourteen fumbles, five lost, And keep in

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Speaker 1: mind that's in eleven games. He's got one to two

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Speaker 1: less games, and everybody because he sat out those two,

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Speaker 1: I don't know that Ellinger doesn't give you the better

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Speaker 1: chance to win either, just because you can't expect to

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Speaker 1: turn the ball over five times. And like coach said,

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Speaker 1: we're minus fourteen in the NFL, tied with the Saints

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Speaker 1: for dead last. You've got to be able to protect

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Speaker 1: the football. We haven't done it, and at this point

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Speaker 1: it's it's not an aberration, it's who we are and

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Speaker 1: it's our identity when you're talking about that level of

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Speaker 1: turnovers this deep in the season. So yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'd say, hey, what the heck, give it to the

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Speaker 1: young kid, and he had a couple of weeks now

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Speaker 1: to kind of sit and watch after he played and

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Speaker 1: see if he can do any better this time around. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm with Joe, you know, and I think this thing

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Speaker 1: goes from top to bottom on this team. I think

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Speaker 1: now is the time for evaluation. If you have a

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Speaker 1: young kid who is talented and you know he's talented,

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Speaker 1: it's time to see him play, it's time and to

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Speaker 1: evaluate him in the last month when there's still time.

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Speaker 1: And when you go to the cour back situation, I

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Speaker 1: think absolutely the one thing you don't want to come

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Speaker 1: out of is you don't want to come out of

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Speaker 1: this season not knowing anything more about Ellinger. I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying he's the answer, but as you said, this is historical.

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Speaker 1: This is historical bad play by your quarterback. And I

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Speaker 1: think the thing that has disappointed me the most, and

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Speaker 1: I can't tolerate anymore, honestly, is just giving up the

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Speaker 1: ball every time you get hit. I mean, you know

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Speaker 1: the last fumble that you know, could have been a

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Speaker 1: fumble six ended up being a touchdown anyway. But I

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Speaker 1: mean he just coughed it up on a sack. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna get hit in the NFL. I think that's

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Speaker 1: been my most disappointing thing. You know, in the turner.

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Speaker 1: He's a turnover machine at this point in time, and

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Speaker 1: at least get a kid in there that has mobility

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Speaker 1: that might help your offensive line. We talked about this

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Speaker 1: when they gave him the job, and then they backtracked

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Speaker 1: after he got killed at New England, which it wouldn't

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Speaker 1: matter who we played. We could have had Jones out

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Speaker 1: there that day and we'd have got killed. But I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, in that sense, I think you really need

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Speaker 1: to find out and we've gone. We've gone as far

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Speaker 1: as you can go here. This is like I said this,

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Speaker 1: in all my disappointments, and I have a valise full

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Speaker 1: since August, I'd have to say quarterbacking, particularly with the

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Speaker 1: turnovers as you stated them, that is number one, and

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Speaker 1: the fumbles to me, the fumbles are just inconsciable. I mean,

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Speaker 1: every time he gets hit in that pocket, just you

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Speaker 1: know you're gonna get sacked. This hold onto the ball,

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Speaker 1: he's giving it up almost like he's scared. I mean,

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Speaker 1: so yeah, it's it's time to go forward, and this paranoia.

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Speaker 1: All of a sudden he goes from he goes from

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Speaker 1: not travel to starter and for some crazy reason, I've

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Speaker 1: heard the reason and it makes no sense to me,

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden he's not on the travel team again.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we got to get our stuff

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Speaker 1: together on that. It's Rick Venturry. Joe Writes is along

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Speaker 1: as well. I'm Matt Taylor. This is Colts Roundtable Live,

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Speaker 1: talking Colts football until seven o'clock, talking about some experiments

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Speaker 1: the Colts might be considering with four games to play.

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Speaker 1: That was quarterback. What about Jillanni Woods? Rick, He's had

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Speaker 1: some really big catches and some big moments in the

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Speaker 1: in these last couple of games, and the Cults have

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Speaker 1: failed to unfortunately find consistency elsewhere from their other tight end,

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Speaker 1: so so making Jillanni Woods the top tight end on

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Speaker 1: the roster right now? Rick, is that an experiment worth conducting?

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Speaker 1: For the cults. To me, that's absolutely right. You know.

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Speaker 1: You know, Joe has talked a lout because we've talked

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Speaker 1: about failures of the running game, and Joe has pointed

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Speaker 1: out so many times during the year about how our

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Speaker 1: tight ends have failed, you know, from a blocking standpoint,

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Speaker 1: and their you know, their inability to block interior wise

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Speaker 1: and all that stuff. Well, the one thing that Woods

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Speaker 1: has his playmaking ability. He's fast, you know, he's he's

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Speaker 1: you know, he had two catches, you know, but he

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Speaker 1: had a twenty seven yard gain in there. He scored

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Speaker 1: touchdowns in the red zone. Last week he got a

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Speaker 1: big fifty fifty ball. Because they can't get through him.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this kid is so much more talented than

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Speaker 1: the guys were playing with and that's problem. You know,

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Speaker 1: we're not recognizing the talent. A matter of fact, Ogletree

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Speaker 1: is right there with him. Unfortunately he got hurt. But

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Speaker 1: the talent lies really in the two rookies. And as

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Speaker 1: long as Woods is healthy, I don't want to see

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Speaker 1: those other guys. I mean, I really don't want to

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Speaker 1: see Molly Cox anymore. When when the linebacker came over

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Speaker 1: thirty three and stripped him, I mean that was like

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Speaker 1: all he did was tackle him in It looked like

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Speaker 1: That's why I said, it looked like the varsity plan

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Speaker 1: of JVS. Like he gave up that ball so easy.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it. It's not like it was a

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Speaker 1: great you know, like a Leonard punch out or something

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Speaker 1: like that. The guy just tackled him and stripped them.

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Speaker 1: It just manhandled them. So yeah, get Woods in there.

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Speaker 1: At least Woods and Pierce give you big play targets.

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Speaker 1: I mean are they Are they going to be? And

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Speaker 1: we'll talk about Pierce in a minute, but yeah, absolutely

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Speaker 1: with Woods. Yeah, and to just add on to coach

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Speaker 1: a little bit. You know, Coach, I think you'd probably

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Speaker 1: agree with me right now if you could take Molly

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Speaker 1: and Granson, or you could take Andrew Ogletree, who again

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Speaker 1: you mentioned been on I R you have it really

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Speaker 1: was having a good camp. He actually was ahead of

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Speaker 1: Woods and Woods. You take Ogletree in Woods ten out

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Speaker 1: of ten and twice on Sunday, and I think to

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Speaker 1: your point, he's not a great blocker. Now Woods isn't,

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Speaker 1: but he has a willingness to block. I saw that

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Speaker 1: in camp. He wants to try, he wants to put

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Speaker 1: his face in there. He's just got a little get

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Speaker 1: a little bit bigger and stronger. So to me, I

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Speaker 1: like it. I'd make him the number one tight end.

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Speaker 1: I'd say, we're playing with you. We're gonna get you

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Speaker 1: better blocking, because that's been the one disappointment with me

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Speaker 1: as Moli. You would expect him now in his third

578
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Speaker 1: fourth year, they thought he could be that in line

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Speaker 1: y blocker hold the point of attack, gets him, knock

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Speaker 1: him back on those stretch and zone plays, and he

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Speaker 1: really hasn't done that at all. So to me, you know,

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Speaker 1: Woods is going to be your flute future. Him and

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Speaker 1: Ogletree probably your top two guys next year. Play those guys,

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Speaker 1: and when you can't play Ogle Tree obviously, but play

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Speaker 1: Woods and get him sixty seventy snaps. Throw him in there,

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Speaker 1: let him get better as a blocker, Let him get

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Speaker 1: that real game experience which is so invaluable, so that

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Speaker 1: moving forward with this franchise, he can continue to be

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Speaker 1: the really dynamic player. I think he's got the potential

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Speaker 1: to be. All right, let's talk about Alec Pierce. You

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Speaker 1: brought him up Rick's He has the three biggest catches

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Speaker 1: on the season for the Colts all over forty yards,

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Speaker 1: including another one last night, a forty five yard catch

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Speaker 1: against the Cowboys. And he's been able to consistently come

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Speaker 1: down with deep balls on contested catches when the Colts

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Speaker 1: do rarely push the ball down the field on deep shots.

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Speaker 1: And you just haven't seen a lot of it lately,

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Speaker 1: but he's made those catches more often than not when

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Speaker 1: you know his number has been called. This one might

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Speaker 1: be a little bit of a stretch, and I know that,

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Speaker 1: but you know you're talking about experiments with four games

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Speaker 1: to play, making Alec Pierce the number one target you

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Speaker 1: know in that progression tree on most plays. Is that

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Speaker 1: in experiment worth conducting, even though you still have a

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Speaker 1: healthy Michael Pittman Jr. Oh to be absolutely a Pittman

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Speaker 1: doesn't scare me a bit. Pittman gets opened through the scheme,

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Speaker 1: only he doesn't ever be anyone. He would struggle to

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Speaker 1: make a lot of teams. His big days are sixty

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Speaker 1: for seventy yards and one key drop. That's basically what

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Speaker 1: he does. We've never utilized Paris Campbell. I told you

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Speaker 1: during a game yesterday, I'd love to see him get

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Speaker 1: the ball and maybe catch and run better as a

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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. The only guy, the only guy I fear

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Speaker 1: on that team is Pierced because of his ability to

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Speaker 1: get deep, his ability to catch the fifty fifty ball.

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Speaker 1: He showed it to you again into red zone. He

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Speaker 1: showed it on the forty five yard game, which I said,

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Speaker 1: run the ball, you know, and get after their left corner.

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Speaker 1: Get after him. And you know, on that great drive

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Speaker 1: that Joe was talking about, what did we do. We

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Speaker 1: gave it to Jonathan. He had two carries for twenty yards.

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Speaker 1: Then we hit a fifty five yard go route on

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Speaker 1: their left corner, and then we hit a fade in

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Speaker 1: the end zone and all of a sudden, you know,

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Speaker 1: Joe said, his best drive of the year. But Pierce

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Speaker 1: is a top guy. The only guy that stops Pierce

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Speaker 1: is the Colts. It's not the other team. It's we

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Speaker 1: will throw him a forty five yard game and then

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Speaker 1: we will not go to him again for another month,

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Speaker 1: and we don't throw the ball deep. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if we don't have confidence in the quarterback's arm as

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Speaker 1: far as his long arm, but Pierce is a guy

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Speaker 1: you should throw three or four shots on their week corner.

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Speaker 1: I say, that every week, and I'll define the week

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Speaker 1: quarter for you. Every week you take four or five shots,

636
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 1: and then if you get them back and off, then

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00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 1: he's decent underneath and it's going to only get better.

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Speaker 1: But to me, there's no question the only guy as

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Speaker 1: but I share all those same thoughts the downfield passing game.

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Speaker 1: Those three all have been an issue all year, but

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Speaker 1: we haven't had that downfield vertical passing game. And you

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Speaker 1: And they Coach has a great point that Pierces our

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Speaker 1: to him. So again he's another guy like Woods. Feed

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Speaker 1: those two young rookies. Get them as much experience in

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Speaker 1: So we'll go with Bernie. He's up first, kind of

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Speaker 1: Ronick here, Bernie asking about Bernie Bernard Ryman, Joe, where

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Speaker 1: does Bernard Ryman need to improve the most this offseason

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Speaker 1: to be a viable option at left tackle for the

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Speaker 1: Colts next season? Is this Bernard Rhyman asking this question?

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Speaker 1: This guys to figure out what he needs to do here, Bernie,

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Speaker 1: I like it. I think he's got a Twitter account,

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Speaker 1: so it might be. Now here's what I like about Rhyman.

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Speaker 1: Did he struggle early on? Yeah? Has he struggled with penalties,

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Speaker 1: of course, but he's getting better every game. And he

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Speaker 1: has enough physical traits to play left tackle. Does that

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Speaker 1: make sense? Like you have to have a certain amount

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Speaker 1: my opinion, where he has to get better, it's just

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Speaker 1: situational awareness. Okay, it's third and seven. This defensive ends

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Speaker 1: out super wide. What kind of rush is he gonna

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Speaker 1: give me? Oh? All of a sudden, Now this three

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Speaker 1: technique shifted out to a four eye. They're probably going

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Speaker 1: to run a te or some sort of line stunt

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Speaker 1: on you know, the play against Pittsburgh. I go back

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Speaker 1: to that third and two when we went hurry up,

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Speaker 1: which I don't know why we did, but when we

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Speaker 1: ran the ball in Highsmith broke through Ryman, or so

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Speaker 1: he broke through the tight end. Had Ryman been Costanza

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Speaker 1: on that play, he would have realized that the linebacker

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Speaker 1: their double team in two was eight yards off the ball,

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Speaker 1: and you don't need to secure that linebacker to get

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Speaker 1: the two yards for a first down. And he could

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Speaker 1: have rocked back, cut off that defensive end and Taylor

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Speaker 1: would have been out the gate for a first down.

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Speaker 1: And so I think all those little situational things, they

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Speaker 1: can only come from reps. And that's why one of

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Speaker 1: the things Saturday said early on at his first press

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Speaker 1: conference was Ryman's a starting tackle for the rest of

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Speaker 1: the year. And I really like that fact because you

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Speaker 1: give him the chance to grow and develop. But all

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Speaker 1: those little situational things, how long is the quarterback going

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Speaker 1: to hold on for the ball for? Is this route

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Speaker 1: going to be a three step, five step, seven step drop?

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Speaker 1: That takes oftentimes three, four or five years till tackles

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Speaker 1: to really understand that. And so the more game reps

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Speaker 1: he's getting now, the better. But in my opinion, he's

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Speaker 1: definitely a pillar and he can be this team's future

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Speaker 1: left tackle, which is good because obviously that's a top

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Speaker 1: five most important position on the football field every Sunday afternoon.

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Speaker 1: Do you agree, Rick, I really do, and I and

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Speaker 1: I agree totally with Joe and I thought that, you know,

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Speaker 1: game is the things that we worried about, you know,

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Speaker 1: basically starting a different tackle at right tackle, and Ryman

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Speaker 1: actually those guys held up decently. The sacks came basically

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Speaker 1: with blitz as they you know, which has been a

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Speaker 1: problem with us as blitz control. And I would only

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Speaker 1: add one of the thing. I think Joe is right

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Speaker 1: on on Ryman. I think the other thing is he

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Speaker 1: is going to get stronger and bigger in the program.

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Speaker 1: Remember he comes in at three h two, which is

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Speaker 1: about probably about eighteen pounds lighter than Anthony came in,

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Speaker 1: And of course Anthony came in with a tremendous football

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Speaker 1: ground background that Ryman doesn't have. And I think that

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Speaker 1: he's going to be able to develop more of an

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Speaker 1: anchor type position, which I think is his worst part

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Speaker 1: of this physical game. He has the space ability, it's

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Speaker 1: that it's that anchor right now that's killing him. And

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Speaker 1: I just think that part of his growth will always

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Speaker 1: also be literally growth and strength. All right, let's go

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Speaker 1: back to the mailbag here. Let's go to Darren's question, Rick,

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Speaker 1: why is Matt Ryan seems so uncomfortable this season? We

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Speaker 1: talked about this earlier in the show, but he's asking.

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Speaker 1: He adds Ryan has played behind subpar offensive lines in

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Speaker 1: the past, but has rarely looked this shaky. Yeah, well

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Speaker 1: he's really come unraveled. But it really started early, and

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Speaker 1: I guess that is one of the big disappointments to

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Speaker 1: me because a lot of those fumbles came early, and

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Speaker 1: I just he just looks to me like almost from

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Speaker 1: the beginning of the season, not in training camp. Of course,

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Speaker 1: I've learned I will never ever evaluate a football team

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Speaker 1: in training camp until they play a live game. I

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Speaker 1: just will not do it. You could try to make

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Speaker 1: me do it. I will never do it again until

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Speaker 1: it's live bullets out there. But you know, in Joe

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Speaker 1: made a good point. I think you know we were

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Speaker 1: off there. But you know, I think Sunday one of

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Speaker 1: his biggest problems was in that ball game, uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: particularly on the first hooker interception that really led to

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Speaker 1: their twenty first point, you know, which gave him daylight

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Speaker 1: when the game was really tight. Is that you know

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Speaker 1: he saw ghosts. I mean there were many times in

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Speaker 1: that game Sunday. Now you know, the couple of the

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Speaker 1: blitz is notwithstanding but there was a lot of times

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Speaker 1: when he had a chance to stay in rhythm and

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Speaker 1: he hurried balls. I mean he threw them inaccurately and

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Speaker 1: before they were ready, which tells me he shot. You know,

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Speaker 1: he shot mentally. When you're doing that, it's not just physical,

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Speaker 1: it's mentally. So yeah, he has really come unraveled. And

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Speaker 1: I said this early in the program. I just can't

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Speaker 1: look at any more fumbles given up just simply on sacks.

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Speaker 1: All right, mail bag segment here on Colts Roundtable Live,

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Speaker 1: tweeting your questions tonight and every Monday night using hashtag

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Speaker 1: Holts Roundtable. Rick vent Terry, Joe Wrights, I'm Matt Taylor.

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Speaker 1: Joe Owen is up next. He's asking has Chase McLoughlin

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Speaker 1: shown enough this season to be brought back in free

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Speaker 1: agency as our kicker next season. I think the answer

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Speaker 1: has to be yes. I mean, that's just my answer,

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Speaker 1: and anecdotally, Joe, he has seven for ten this season

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Speaker 1: on fifty yard field goals and he has the second

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Speaker 1: most makes in the NFL over fifty on the year.

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Speaker 1: So I think Chase McLoughlin has definitely been one of

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Speaker 1: the big bright spots for this team on special teams, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: no question, And I really like what he's done given

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Speaker 1: the opportunity. You know, again, Rodrigo gets a lego after

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Speaker 1: week one and now you got questions a kicker, and

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Speaker 1: we had questions at punter because the injury, but he's

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Speaker 1: really stabilized things. And he's a young guy, right, didn't

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Speaker 1: the only twenty four twenty five years old? Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: I mean, so you know, hopefully, I mean, these kickers

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Speaker 1: can play a long time, and you see oftentimes they

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Speaker 1: bounce around, they bounce around, but all of a sudden

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Speaker 1: you have some success and get some confidence, and he's

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Speaker 1: got the leg strength to go from fifty plus, especially

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Speaker 1: in the Dome. You know, hopefully you're looking at a

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Speaker 1: guy that you know, we're gonna be talking about this

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Speaker 1: a decade from now in McLoughlin still here because we

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Speaker 1: have had the benefit of having just a kicker for

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Speaker 1: so long and Vinny and that's something that's often not

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Speaker 1: talked about, often viewed is not that important. And until

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Speaker 1: you need a forty seven yard game winning kick to

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Speaker 1: win getting the playoffs, you know what I'm saying. And

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Speaker 1: so hopefully McLoughlin can be that guy for us. For

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Speaker 1: the future. But definitely he's coming back next year and

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Speaker 1: I'll be shocked if they don't sign him, do a

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Speaker 1: you know, two to three year extension and lock him

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Speaker 1: up a longer term. Yeah, you like Chase McLoughlin, Joe,

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Speaker 1: and I also know off air, you like yourself some

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Speaker 1: Dallas Flowers too. Now give me Dallas Flowers when he

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Speaker 1: runs the ball and returns it like he's a man

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Speaker 1: on a mission and obviously had the huge return in

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh that spring board of Scotus ahead and that big

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Speaker 1: return got wiped out last night. Won't go on the

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Speaker 1: stat sheet, but I'll tell you what. That guy runs

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Speaker 1: a man on a mission. Coach vent Urry, I love

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Speaker 1: watching him take that ball out of the end zone. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he has absolutely no fear. I have more confidence when

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Speaker 1: they're kicking off than I do when our offenses on third.

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Speaker 1: To be honest with you, and I said to Matt,

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Speaker 1: just tell him take it if it's in the ballpark,

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Speaker 1: If it us and go to monument circle, you take

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Speaker 1: it out. I don't care what the consequences because you

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Speaker 1: have a potential big play. And I can only say

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Speaker 1: about McLoughlin. You know, again, my standard My barometer is,

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Speaker 1: you know, if the game's on the line and he

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Speaker 1: misses a forty yard field goal, are you shocked or not?

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Speaker 1: And I would be shocked. Which is the best endorsement

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Speaker 1: I can give him. All right, let's go to one

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Speaker 1: more wreck. This is for you. This is from Landon.

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Speaker 1: I know you wanted to talk about this last night

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Speaker 1: after the game. In fact, with four games to go,

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Speaker 1: this is kind of in line with our experiment discussion

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Speaker 1: from earlier. Landon is asking what happened to Nick Cross?

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Speaker 1: He started the first two games of safety and then

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Speaker 1: we really haven't seen him since. Should we play him

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Speaker 1: down the stretch to get him more run for next season? Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: You know Joe mentioned before the commitment that we made

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Speaker 1: and the only way he was going to be as

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Speaker 1: good as a sophomore, you know, just And it's true

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Speaker 1: of Pierce, it's true of Wood, it's true of all

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Speaker 1: these guys with talent. You have to put them in there.

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Speaker 1: They're only going to grow on the field, They're not

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Speaker 1: going to grow by watching. And I think the same

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Speaker 1: thing is true with Cross. I understand why he was

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Speaker 1: benched because you early in the season, we had a good, veteran,

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Speaker 1: reliable guy in McLeod you know, he wasn't quite ready.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of complexities to the strong safety position

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Speaker 1: in Gus Bradley's defense, much more than the free safety.

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Speaker 1: The free safety sits in the middle, and you know,

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Speaker 1: you don't need anything to do that except sit in

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Speaker 1: the middle and go to the ball. But the strong

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Speaker 1: safety in inserts himself very different spots and so he

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Speaker 1: was making mistakes early. But by this stage in the season,

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Speaker 1: if you have a talented, potential game changer, he needs

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Speaker 1: to be in there. That's a that's a coaching mistake.

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Speaker 1: And Ronnie McLeod is, you know, he's a veteran. He's

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Speaker 1: also a free agent on a one year deal. He's

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Speaker 1: going to be a free agent again. And he defines

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Speaker 1: his ceiling in the game last night. Ronnie mcclown is

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Speaker 1: a good, reliable guy. But when he had to give

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Speaker 1: get a good player like CD Lamb down, he couldn't

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Speaker 1: do it. So, I mean, that's the ceiling. So what

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Speaker 1: you want to do, I don't care if it's Ellinger

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Speaker 1: all these other guys were talking about tonight, get the

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Speaker 1: talented guy in there, don't play security blankets because they

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Speaker 1: know the system. It's up for you. If you have

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Speaker 1: a talented guy and you're a position coach, my responsibility

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Speaker 1: as a position coach is to get that guy in

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Speaker 1: the field and get him coached up and not use

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Speaker 1: the excuse he can't learn it, because that's ridiculous. So yes,

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Speaker 1: I think at this point in the season, there's no

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Speaker 1: excuse for not playing him some All right. Colts Roundtable

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Speaker 1: for the closing arguments with Rick Venturry and Joe Wrights. Guys,

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Speaker 1: your final thoughts on Colts, Cowboys and what a players

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Speaker 1: and coaches need to do over the bye week to improve. Joe,

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Speaker 1: you've been there right as a player inside the locker

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Speaker 1: room on teams that are in the hunt, on teams

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Speaker 1: that unfortunately it had, you know, poor records going into

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Speaker 1: a bye week. What are you trying to get accomplished

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Speaker 1: this week off? And how does that equate to this

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Speaker 1: team with it being so far out of the playoff picture. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: no question. I think two things. Really, you want to

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Speaker 1: get healthy physically at this point everybody's injured in some

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Speaker 1: sort of capacity, and then recharge mentally and really understand, Fellows,

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Speaker 1: with four weeks left, I know we're close to mathematically

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Speaker 1: out of the playoffs. But we just got to go

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Speaker 1: out and put some good football on tape. And you

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Speaker 1: can say that as a team, you can say that

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Speaker 1: individually because I guarantee you guys are thinking this week,

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Speaker 1: I got a month left in the season to show

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Speaker 1: this franchise. I want to be here in twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: three and belong, and you expect guys to kind of

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Speaker 1: play inspired. Traditionally the bye week, some guys will go

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Speaker 1: on vacation, you know, maybe take a trip to Florida,

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Speaker 1: warm weather if you got three four days off. But

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Speaker 1: my experience was the longer in the season you go,

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Speaker 1: and if it's December and I'm there, I'm like, I

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Speaker 1: don't want to travel anyone. I don't know anything. I

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Speaker 1: just want to sit on the couch and lay around

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Speaker 1: and like I said, get healthy physically and then recharge

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Speaker 1: mentally for these last four games. Yeah, Rick, what about coaches,

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Speaker 1: what would you be trying to get done this week

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Speaker 1: if you were on the staff? Well, you know, bye

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Speaker 1: week really evolved. You know. I always went in the

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Speaker 1: old days, in the day, we would take two days

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Speaker 1: like this week, and we would really work our rookies,

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Speaker 1: our young guys, almost like rookie minicamp, and all the

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Speaker 1: new guys are young guys, rookies that are playing. We

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Speaker 1: would devote two real good practices to them because we

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Speaker 1: would still want them to develop. Now, most of the time,

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Speaker 1: your bye week was mid season or early and so

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Speaker 1: that was really a big, a big developmental time. And

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Speaker 1: then from a coaching staff, this would be a really

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Speaker 1: busy week obviously to really complete yourself scout as a

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Speaker 1: coaching staff, not just your analyst, and figure out, okay,

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Speaker 1: A three Z, what do we have to change schematically

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Speaker 1: because we have time. I think it's a little bit

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Speaker 1: different right now. First of all, this is a really

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Speaker 1: late late by, there's no question about it. And this

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Speaker 1: team is now demoralized and tired. So what might be

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Speaker 1: as Joe said, what might be most important right now

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Speaker 1: is for everybody to spit this out, take a deep breath, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: get away from it, not necessarily physically, but walk away

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Speaker 1: from this game right now and refresh and reboot and

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Speaker 1: get ready to come back in next Monday and get

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Speaker 1: ready to win the last four games and to save

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Speaker 1: your career. That's basically what I think is probably most

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Speaker 1: important at this moment. All right, That's all the time.

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Speaker 1: We've got tonight well done here on Colts Roundtable Live,

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Speaker 1: Rick and Joe, great job as always. I appreciate you

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Speaker 1: guys laying out the reality of this Colts team and

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Speaker 1: where they're at right now. My thanks also to interim

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Speaker 1: head coach Jeff Saturday who joined in the first segment.

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Speaker 1: And we've got you covered on the Colts all week long,

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Speaker 1: as we always do, even though it's a bye week

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Speaker 1: and a week off. Colts Daily Updates Tuesday through Thursday,

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Speaker 1: the Official Colts podcast that's gonna drop tomorrow on Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: and then Inside Football with Rick that's gonna drop on Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: So check all of that out. Colts dot Com, the

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Speaker 1: Colts Mobile app, and the Colts Audio Network that's wherever

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