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Speaker 1: The general manager of your Cleveland Browns, Andrew Berry coming

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Speaker 1: in to the studio. What an absolute treat Hey, hey guys,

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Speaker 1: we're doing well, Raby. How are you doing fast and

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Speaker 1: furious today? Here on day four for the Browns. Four

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Speaker 1: picks already made. You started your day getting the big

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Speaker 1: man Dewan Jones out of Ohio State. A lot of

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Speaker 1: people thought he could have gone a lot earlier in

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Speaker 1: this draft. When you get a guy with that size

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Speaker 1: that Clay played in the Big Ten, big time player,

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Speaker 1: and you get to give him to Bill Callahan, how

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Speaker 1: excited does that get you?

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Speaker 2: No, we're very excited. We think that Dwan is a

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Speaker 2: big athletic tackle with you know, really rare size. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's he's He's still a work in progress, but we

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Speaker 2: think we have, quite honestly the best offensive line coach

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Speaker 2: in the league. Think he'll work really well with with Bill,

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Speaker 2: and Bill will certainly push him, and we're we're really

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Speaker 2: excited to get him in the building and work with him.

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Speaker 1: Two questions. Do you view him as a right tackle,

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Speaker 1: which he played at Ohio State, or do you think

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I think I mentioned this in twenty twenty when we

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Speaker 2: you know, when we picked Jed that in today's game,

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Speaker 2: the great rushers are on both sides. So for us,

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Speaker 2: you know, tackles or tackles. He played the right side

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Speaker 2: really necessarily designate it.

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Speaker 1: Left and right. And then do you have an ideal

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Speaker 2: Let's say what Jim Schwarzoer said, as big as possible

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Speaker 2: without losing movement ability. I think the thing with the one,

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Speaker 2: is going to look a lot different than others. It

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Speaker 2: actually reminds me a lot of you know, when we

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Speaker 2: we had Jordan Malatta. The normal call it, you know, height, weight,

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Speaker 2: speed doesn't apply for those guys who are just different giants.

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Speaker 2: Really they're they're giants. They're they're they're modern day goliaths,

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Speaker 2: you know, and so you know, as long as the

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Speaker 2: one has the good body composition and can move, we're

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Speaker 3: Being and Andrew. I'm labeling this draft the physical prowess draft,

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Speaker 3: and as a player, I paid attention to teams that

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Speaker 3: had gurve size. Do you go into consideration with that

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Speaker 3: when you're looking at play, is just from a physical

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Speaker 2: You know, honestly, not not as much. We really do

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Speaker 2: look for just more performance. I think for us going

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Speaker 2: in the trenches for us. So you know, I will,

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Speaker 2: you know, offer that we did have an idea that,

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Speaker 2: you know, maybe we would have a bunch of linemen

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Speaker 2: that it was a specific focus towards size, just prospects

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Speaker 2: that we liked and we thought provided a unique quality

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Speaker 2: of how it's unfolded this weekend.

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Speaker 1: And you dressed the line three players in the trenches

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Speaker 1: And that was one of those names that it just

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Speaker 2: No, to be honest, like he was probably a little

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Speaker 2: You know, he was, you know, a player that really

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Speaker 1: Who was that guy? Because I remember last year Alex

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Speaker 1: Was there a guy that's been drafted already that you

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't say as much with with I mean, we

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Speaker 3: Like, right, you just selected Dorian Thompson Robinson. And how

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Speaker 3: important is it to have symmetry in the quarterback room,

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Speaker 3: because that appears to be the case with this selection.

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Speaker 2: To be truthful, I actually don't think it's super important.

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Speaker 2: We really look for more quality. It's a nice to have, Like,

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Speaker 2: you know, we're the guys fit stylistically, you know, but

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Speaker 2: Just like you try and build depth in other airs

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Speaker 2: say it was a disqualifier for any of the quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: All right, tell us a little bit about this corner.

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Speaker 1: We got Greg Newsome very happy by the way, you

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Speaker 1: got one of his good friends there from Northwestern, Cam Mitchell,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So Greg calls him his little brother. We we

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Speaker 2: we see Kim as someone who can play both inside

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Speaker 2: though they didn't ask him to, you know, maybe press

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Speaker 2: were we always believe in being as deep as possible

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Speaker 2: in the premium positions. Corners obviously been one that we've

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Speaker 3: And not that Greg is going to help you make

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Speaker 3: select someone that he's has a family with. But how

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Speaker 2: It's really important. So anytime that there's a player that's

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Speaker 2: we want to make sure that it's the best fit possible.

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Speaker 2: That doesn't mean that everybody's going to be a perfect fit, right,

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Speaker 2: you know what, know what we're selecting, know the person

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Speaker 1: You're expecting dtr Et center Tillman to hit the ground

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Speaker 2: I think there's a good chance of that happening, and

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Speaker 1: That that's the case to Tilman really quickly, because it

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Speaker 1: look it feels very much like it's an arms race,

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Speaker 1: Then we need to address some beef in the middle,

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Speaker 1: and we did that with Siaki Eca. But you know,

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Speaker 2: I do think that there is probably some I can't

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Speaker 2: probably some discounting just given the fact that you know,

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Speaker 2: each receiver class is different, so how certain teams prioritize

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Speaker 2: different styles of players at that spot could also impact,

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Speaker 2: you know, where a prospect goes. But you know, we're

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Speaker 2: certainly happy to have Cedric.

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Speaker 1: Overall, When you think about this receiver room, I mean

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Speaker 1: it's a major overhaul, three new faces in there. Tilman

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Speaker 2: I think we felt like we had a pretty good

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Speaker 3: And Andrew, you made a comment about Siyaki and it

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Speaker 3: resonated with me in regards to him being a big

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think I think it can be easy

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Speaker 2: plays in the Big twelve, it's a spread space game, right,

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Speaker 2: It's not this hey between the hashes, smash mouth football.

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Speaker 2: He's got to play, you know, in games that have

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Speaker 2: we would require them, even though the defensive philosophies are

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Speaker 1: How did his role change a little bit from twenty

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Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, I saw him just do some of

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Speaker 2: More to go for now.

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Speaker 1: For now, For now, they'll pay attention to the scores

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Speaker 2: I think it's hard to say, Nate, honestly. I mean,

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Speaker 1: You know it was terrible. Yeah, we blew it.

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Speaker 2: You know, we've we've selected guys that we have some

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Speaker 3: And I love the fact that you brought up that

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Speaker 3: see you guys via television. Now you guys fist pounders

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Speaker 2: Rule, we're neither. We're clappers. We're clappers. Grooves a bunch

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Speaker 1: How different was it going into this draft? Which and

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Speaker 1: If he plays this year, that means there have been

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think it changed the mindset a ton.

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Speaker 2: I think it certainly the stale the roster allowed us

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Speaker 2: a pick. We really do try and view these players

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Speaker 2: we don't want to just be short sighted into into

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Speaker 1: Well, AB, thank you so much for being with us.

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Speaker 1: I recall that you said your best draft memory was

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Speaker 1: the birth of your child, So happy birthday to Eden Ruth.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: It's a present going to be. We're gonna trade out

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Speaker 2: She she told me this morning she wanted cupcakes, So.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm sure you can. You will make that happen. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: thank you much, AB, thanks so much for the time.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations so far on the draft.

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Speaker 2: All right, thank you guys,