Speaker 1: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. I think that we
Speaker 1: are now going to just start like a faith series
Speaker 1: here because we had Chris Tomlin and now we are
Speaker 1: blessed to have Kirk Cameron with us. Kirk, thank you
Speaker 1: so much for joining me.
Speaker 2: Hey you had Chris Tomlin on the on the show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was our last episode.
Speaker 3: Yes, I know how great is Mamay just sends me
Speaker 3: into worship here in his name And in fact, I
Speaker 3: just had lunch with him maybe a month and a
Speaker 3: half ago, and we were talking about how his daughter
Speaker 3: was is really talented actress and she has these really
Speaker 3: cool opportunities to do some stuff.
Speaker 2: So he was looking for a little, you.
Speaker 3: Know, little navigation through some of the minefields of childhood
Speaker 3: acting since that's kind of you know.
Speaker 2: The yeah world as a kid. Yeah that thanks for
Speaker 2: having me on.
Speaker 1: No, that's funny because when he came on, I was
Speaker 1: like that song. I told him that was one of
Speaker 1: my labor songs when I had my first daughter. So
Speaker 1: it's funny that that's the song you brought up because
Speaker 1: that was also my song. But this is I mean,
Speaker 1: it is really I think it is a time for
Speaker 1: rebirth and faith. So This is exciting to have him
Speaker 1: on and then have you on because I know that
Speaker 1: faith is first and foremost for you, and you are
Speaker 1: a great advocate for Christ out there and talking about families,
Speaker 1: and you're passionate about our kids and our families. And
Speaker 1: because of that, I mean that kind of leads into
Speaker 1: his daughter is into acting. You grew up here, but
Speaker 1: you're going back there, which I think is fascinating because
Speaker 1: I'm in the situation of having four kids and I
Speaker 1: felt like I had nothing good for them to watch.
Speaker 1: So tell us what's going on?
Speaker 2: Come on?
Speaker 3: I mean, has there ever been a better time where
Speaker 3: we have needed a mister Rogers for our kids?
Speaker 1: That's right?
Speaker 2: And I just became a grandfather. I don't know if
Speaker 2: you can believe that.
Speaker 1: We congratulations, Mike.
Speaker 2: Sever just became a grandfather. And it's been really hard.
Speaker 3: I've been trying to pick out my grandpa name because
Speaker 3: I don't want something that's cheesy, you know, like and
Speaker 3: then I just moved to Tennessee and everybody here's got
Speaker 3: these real, you know, these like southern grandpa names like
Speaker 3: pap Paul, p Paul, Pat Paul, and I'm just not
Speaker 3: ready to go full Cracker Bret. Oh Yet, So I'm
Speaker 3: thinking I'm going with Chief. I'm thinking my grandkids are
Speaker 3: gonna call me Chief.
Speaker 4: And.
Speaker 3: I want to lean into the kinds of media and
Speaker 3: educational content for my children and my children's children that's
Speaker 3: actually going to be good for their little hearts and
Speaker 3: their little minds. So much of children's television today has
Speaker 3: become perverted and warped and twisted and bent. Is such
Speaker 3: filth and pollution and confusing kids about who they are,
Speaker 3: their gender. It's making their add worse. And we think,
Speaker 3: wait a minute, what if we could go back to
Speaker 3: a modern day version of something that's wholesome and healthy
Speaker 3: and entertaining like Mister Rogers and Sesame Street. Only make
Speaker 3: it like beautiful animation, real stories that kids can relate to,
Speaker 3: clear moral lessons and develop their souls by teaching them
Speaker 3: faith in God.
Speaker 2: That's what we're doing. And it's called Iggy and Mister Kirk.
Speaker 3: It's going to be free on YouTube, it's going to
Speaker 3: be everywhere around the world, coming out next month, and
Speaker 3: you're absolutely gonna love it.
Speaker 1: So, first of all, I want to say that my
Speaker 1: mom also thought that she would have a clever name
Speaker 1: because she said she didn't want to be grandma. So
Speaker 1: she would come into our house and she would say
Speaker 1: she wanted everybody to call her Coco. So I was
Speaker 1: the first one to have a grandchild. Yeah, she wanted
Speaker 1: to be Grandma's.
Speaker 2: My wife's grandma name is Coco.
Speaker 1: That is so funny. So she has to remember that
Speaker 1: because my mom told everybody she wanted to be Coco.
Speaker 1: And then she would walk in the house and should go,
Speaker 1: grandma's here. And I was like, Mom, if you cannot
Speaker 1: remember your Cocoa, you're not and she's not. She's grandma,
Speaker 1: she's grandma. You have to come in. Remember your chief.
Speaker 1: You gotta come in. You gotta declare it.
Speaker 2: It's Cocoa and Chief. And I tell her all the time.
Speaker 1: That's awesome, that is hilarious. So yes, you have to
Speaker 1: you have to instill that in the kids. Okay, So
Speaker 1: this show. I love this idea because I have to
Speaker 1: tell you that I grew up watching things like Growing Pains,
Speaker 1: and I felt like it was really shows like that
Speaker 1: really had life lessons in them. And then I watched
Speaker 1: the shows that my kids have that are offered to them.
Speaker 1: They actually go back and they watch the original full House.
Speaker 1: That's what they've been like. That's they've been watching that
Speaker 1: for a couple of years now and they keep going
Speaker 1: back and real watching it. But they the shows that
Speaker 1: are on these big networks now for kids are anti parents,
Speaker 1: they're anti discipline, they are a pro bad behavior, and
Speaker 1: and you're right, there's all different kinds of value sets
Speaker 1: and kids changing gender and everything, and they are they're confused.
Speaker 1: It's not even comfortable for them to watch, which I
Speaker 1: think is funny because on their own they found the
Speaker 1: television shows from when I was a kid to engage
Speaker 1: in rather than from their childhood.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: And it's so hard to be a parent these days
Speaker 3: because you feel like everything's working against you. Your public
Speaker 3: school's working against you. There's even some churches that working
Speaker 3: against you because they're not staying faithful to the Word
Speaker 3: of God.
Speaker 2: And then media, of course, you can't trust that.
Speaker 3: You can't trust Disney, you can't trust Nickelodeon, you can't
Speaker 3: trust the government, you can't trust the medical industry.
Speaker 2: It's like, who do we even trust anymore?
Speaker 3: And so that's why I wanted to be a part
Speaker 3: of a team of people who have the right mission,
Speaker 3: and that is we want to invest in the hearts
Speaker 3: and minds of children for the good. We want to
Speaker 3: utilize their incredible imaginations for what is true and beautiful
Speaker 3: and good. And that's what Idian Mister Kirk is all about.
Speaker 3: And one of the ways that kids will benefit from
Speaker 3: the show is it's not cuts every two to three
Speaker 3: seconds and blinking lights and ridiculous sounds that don't match
Speaker 3: up with the things that are happening on the screen,
Speaker 3: making their add worse. This is actually healthy for their
Speaker 3: cognitive development, their relational skills, clear moral lessons, and it
Speaker 3: engages their imagination for good. One of the ways that
Speaker 3: kids learn the lessons is by relating to an adorable
Speaker 3: green iguana named Iggy that I'm raising in my treehouse
Speaker 3: in the backyard, and he's got to navigate through the
Speaker 3: very relatable challenges that every five year old, every six
Speaker 3: and seven year old can understand.
Speaker 2: While he's listening to some friends who are telling the truth.
Speaker 3: And then there's others like a vulture named Culture who
Speaker 3: is always deceiving him and lying to Iggy and making
Speaker 3: him question his identity and who really loves him and
Speaker 3: who he can trust and what's true, and he's got
Speaker 3: to rely on the wisdom that's given to him by
Speaker 3: his dad and his mom and by trusting in God
Speaker 3: and praying.
Speaker 1: So you know, there are ways of learning lessons through TV.
Speaker 1: And I think that that's what we've been forgetting for
Speaker 1: so long on the conservative side, is that our kids
Speaker 1: are learning lessons the wrong lessons. TV has infiltrated everything,
Speaker 1: and part of that is what you actually said about
Speaker 1: add I never thought about that before, but the idea
Speaker 1: that you have to be constantly entertained, something has to
Speaker 1: constantly switch in your mind, and then you get kind
Speaker 1: of into that mode. But I mean, I can remember
Speaker 1: even when I was a kid watching Charlie in the
Speaker 1: Chocolate Factory, and still to this day, I'm like, what
Speaker 1: would I have done with that cob Stopper? Would I
Speaker 1: have given it to the bad guy?
Speaker 2: I just watched it the other night. It's so good.
Speaker 2: It's such a great movie, and you know, it's funny.
Speaker 3: This is a completely random tie in, but you know,
Speaker 3: the Gobstocker and Willie Walka, you know, when he handed
Speaker 3: out those five golden tickets, It just that's all I
Speaker 3: could think of when I just read in the news
Speaker 3: about how Trump is now.
Speaker 2: Offering the gold card for five million dollars.
Speaker 3: For people in other countries to get instant citizenship in
Speaker 3: the United States.
Speaker 2: I'm like, he's the Willy Wonka of immigration.
Speaker 4: Really, here's your gold card, five million dollars please, And
Speaker 4: I thought, Wow, this guy's pulling ideas out of aware
Speaker 4: and creating opportunities for America.
Speaker 2: It's just it's pretty incredible.
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Speaker 1: we've got more coming up after this. You start from
Speaker 1: little kids to show what leadership is, and you make
Speaker 1: such a great point of there's constantly going to be
Speaker 1: people pulling at you saying and culture pulling at you
Speaker 1: saying this is where you should be. And you can
Speaker 1: lose your identity really quickly in this world. But if
Speaker 1: you are grounded in Christ, then you know your identity
Speaker 1: that so is that at all tied into the show.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't characterize our show as a religious show, like
Speaker 3: you know to your point about Christ. Neither would I
Speaker 3: talk categorize it as a political or racist or a
Speaker 3: racism show. I would say that it's a show about
Speaker 3: what is true and beautiful and good to help children
Speaker 3: be healthy. And it includes issues like identity, like purpose,
Speaker 3: faith in God and in His word we pray together.
Speaker 3: And it deals with issues even like warning about the
Speaker 3: dangers of socialism with an episode called an Island of
Speaker 3: Free ice Cream. But like I said, it's not couch.
Speaker 3: It's not couched as a political or religious show. It's
Speaker 3: a good show for children and their parents that they
Speaker 3: can trust.
Speaker 1: Okay, So I keep hearing that these are hard things
Speaker 1: to do though, because you're kind of fighting against this
Speaker 1: Hollywood machine. And you were a part of that machine
Speaker 1: when you were a kid, so you saw the other
Speaker 1: side of it. But what's it like now? How much
Speaker 1: do you think it's changed from when you were a child,
Speaker 1: And how do you fight against that? How do you
Speaker 1: fund something like this?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Well media, God wasn't surprised by media when it came in.
Speaker 3: You know, like we talk about how media has infiltrated
Speaker 3: homes and stuff. Well, I would say that media has
Speaker 3: always been God's idea. These things don't just happen out
Speaker 3: of the ether, and they're not random.
Speaker 2: And God has a purpose for all of these.
Speaker 3: Things, and he's working it all together for good, for
Speaker 3: those who love him and are called according to His purpose.
Speaker 3: Scripture says, So what Christians and good people need to
Speaker 3: do is infiltrate media, not just say oh, media bad,
Speaker 3: and we end up becoming professional whiners about the influence
Speaker 3: of media. No, no, no, we need to become winners of
Speaker 3: the media. Rather than complaining about the culture. Let's be
Speaker 3: creators of the culture. Actually get in the driver's seat
Speaker 3: and drive the bus where we want it to go
Speaker 3: so that our children's future is hopeful. And so I
Speaker 3: would say that with the advent of good technology, there
Speaker 3: are people who can create content just like we're doing
Speaker 3: right now. The Tutorddiction Show is not funded by Warner
Speaker 3: Brothers or by Disney. We can do stuff like this
Speaker 3: and create content and watch it on YouTube or wherever.
Speaker 3: And so I think good stuff is coming out. But
Speaker 3: cancer doesn't get better on its own. It just wants
Speaker 3: to grow bigger and bigger. And so the rotten root
Speaker 3: of wickedness, evil, perversion, and greed that characterizes so much
Speaker 3: of media and children's content, it is not going to
Speaker 3: get better.
Speaker 2: It just needs to be replaced. It just needs to
Speaker 2: be beaten with good. So rather than joining in with evil.
Speaker 3: We just got to overcome evil with good, and that's
Speaker 3: what we are attempting to do.
Speaker 2: It's what you're attempting to do.
Speaker 3: And I believe that God multiplies what he loves and
Speaker 3: so we're on the winning team, so are you.
Speaker 1: I mean, there is cost in doing something like this, though,
Speaker 1: So we've seen a lot of kind of I guess
Speaker 1: I would say traditional American values and even traditional faith
Speaker 1: values popping up in television shows and in movies. I mean,
Speaker 1: I talked to you about The Last Supper, we just
Speaker 1: talked to about We just talked to Chris Tomlin about
Speaker 1: that movie. We have seen that faith and values are
Speaker 1: really coming back into place. So when you produce something
Speaker 1: like this on YouTube, is there a place where you're
Speaker 1: asking people like, hey, help us out or are you
Speaker 1: just wanting them to watch?
Speaker 3: So the quick answer is you can watch it for free.
Speaker 3: You can go to watch Brave. I believe you can
Speaker 3: go there right now and you can see the trailer
Speaker 3: and maybe even an episode or two. The first five
Speaker 3: episodes are going to be free on YouTube, coming out
Speaker 3: later in March, and.
Speaker 2: To edit that if that's already passed.
Speaker 3: But the idea is that we also are looking for
Speaker 3: help and support because it costs a lot of money
Speaker 3: to make a television show. We're gonna do it either way,
Speaker 3: but we give people an opportunity to be a part
Speaker 3: of it, and we can go to the website to
Speaker 3: check that out.
Speaker 1: Give us the website just so people know it keeps changing.
Speaker 3: The website is watch Brave dot com. Watch Brave dot com.
Speaker 1: Okay, watch Brave dot com awesome, and then people there
Speaker 1: they can learn about this. That's do you see I mean,
Speaker 1: do you see a lot of conservatives getting together in
Speaker 1: this space right now? You're on a tour. We can
Speaker 1: see that. You're in a bus, You're on a tour.
Speaker 1: You're out there talking to people about this stuff. Tell
Speaker 1: us what you're doing right now.
Speaker 3: So, tutor, can I go back and just answer something
Speaker 3: that you had asked me in the previous question?
Speaker 2: I forgot to answer it.
Speaker 3: Yes, we are seeing pro America, pro conservative, pro Christian
Speaker 3: values popping up in media and movies and television shows
Speaker 3: more now than we maybe we did three years ago.
Speaker 3: And I think because of the election and what people
Speaker 3: are seeing is happening, people are being embolden. It's wind
Speaker 3: in our sales. This is gas in the tank. And
Speaker 3: I think that in the mercy of God, the very
Speaker 3: the kindness, and the undeserved favor of God, We've been
Speaker 3: given four years of air cover so that we can
Speaker 3: advance the good and the beautiful and what is right,
Speaker 3: what we should have been doing for decades but have
Speaker 3: not done or not done well.
Speaker 2: And I think now is our opportunity to do this.
Speaker 3: And if we blow it now, after everything that we
Speaker 3: have been through and all the kindness and mercy that
Speaker 3: we've been shown, and our eyes being opened over the
Speaker 3: last four years, it will we ever turn back to
Speaker 3: God and to the Constitution and to the values that
Speaker 3: lead to our kids blessing Or are we really asking
Speaker 3: for communism to come in and just take.
Speaker 2: Care of everything for us.
Speaker 3: That's the question I think we need to ask ourselves
Speaker 3: as Americans and particularly as Christians. So I'm thrilled and
Speaker 3: I think I'm hoping that this is the appearances of
Speaker 3: more good and godly values.
Speaker 2: Is not just the pendulum swinging way back.
Speaker 3: To the right, because that's the nature of a pendulum,
Speaker 3: It just swings back to the left again and then
Speaker 3: back to the right again. What we want is a
Speaker 3: revival that swings it, not to the right or to
Speaker 3: the left. I wanted to swing that pendulum straight up
Speaker 3: and point toward Heaven and stay there right, because that's
Speaker 3: really all there is. Ronald Reagan said it. Look, it's
Speaker 3: not really a choice between the right and the left.
Speaker 3: It's a choice between up to maximum freedom under God
Speaker 3: and under law, or down to the ash heap of totalitarianism.
Speaker 2: And that's what we've got to decide.
Speaker 1: So when you do, when you are making something like this,
Speaker 1: do you think that this will be a daily show?
Speaker 1: Is this a weekly show? Is this something that you
Speaker 1: expect the kids to come down and get down on
Speaker 1: the family room, huddle up on the carpet and say,
Speaker 1: we got to watch our daily episode.
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I hope So, I hope that this becomes a staple
Speaker 3: for decades and decades, just like Mister Rogers, or just
Speaker 3: like Little House on the Prairie, or just like Happy
Speaker 3: Days or I Love Lucy, or just like growing Things
Speaker 3: in Full House. I'm hoping that for little kids, five
Speaker 3: year old, six, seven year olds, this is going to
Speaker 3: be a tool in parents toolbox that the kids love
Speaker 3: and that parents can trust. And you can watch seasons
Speaker 3: at a time with the streaming services that it's platforming on.
Speaker 1: That's awesome, and this is not the only thing you're doing.
Speaker 1: I was saying, you're honest. You're on a bus right now,
Speaker 1: You're touring around the country. People love to see you
Speaker 1: out there doing this talking to them. I mean, you're
Speaker 1: you really are I think a trusted voice because we
Speaker 1: know your faith. But we also know your face. You know,
Speaker 1: we've seen you for years. So what are you out
Speaker 1: there talking about when you're on the road.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, you can see half my face because Mike
Speaker 3: step grew a beard. And as far as being a
Speaker 3: trusted guy, you know, I'm also an actor and I
Speaker 3: could be fake in the whole thing, So beware of
Speaker 3: Hollywood celebrities always.
Speaker 2: But thank you. That definitely encourages me.
Speaker 3: And I'm on the road because we want to let
Speaker 3: people know about our new TV show for kids, Iggy
Speaker 3: and mister Kirk. We want them to know about a
Speaker 3: new book that I just wrote called Born to Be Brave,
Speaker 3: How to become a part of America's spiritual come back.
Speaker 3: And people are leaving I think encouraged, full of hope
Speaker 3: and a vision of victory for the future, not pessimistic
Speaker 3: and escapist, but victorious because.
Speaker 2: The gospel and doing what's right has victory written all
Speaker 2: over it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, I've heard great things. I've heard all these
Speaker 1: stories about the children's events that you're doing, and I
Speaker 1: hear what you're saying about you have to be cautious
Speaker 1: of people. I think you've proven yourself. I think that
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Speaker 1: right after this. What you said earlier I think is
Speaker 1: so key is that like this isn't just because we
Speaker 1: have been frustrated with the media. Just because we've been
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Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you for saying that. I think you're exactly right.
Speaker 3: So many people have turned into you know, as conservatives,
Speaker 3: we look at the left and we say, boy, you know,
Speaker 3: you guys are just maxing out this victimhood mentality stuff, right,
Speaker 3: you just make everybody feel like a victim. And then
Speaker 3: union is the government need to come in and you
Speaker 3: need to fight for them. But as conservatives we have
Speaker 3: the same heart. Ultimately, unless we're set free by the
Speaker 3: Gospel and changed on the inside, we make ourselves victims
Speaker 3: of the culture.
Speaker 2: And we say oh, we say, oh my goodness, like
Speaker 2: all of.
Speaker 3: This culture, this media, public schools, they're just working against us.
Speaker 3: We're victims of this nasty, dark culture. And I want
Speaker 3: to say, wait a minute, hold on. Nobody told you
Speaker 3: you had to send your kids to the school you're
Speaker 3: sending them to. You have options. You can homeschool your kids,
Speaker 3: you can send them to a private school if you
Speaker 3: can't afford that.
Speaker 2: There's churches and schools and networks and co ops.
Speaker 3: More than ever before, information has been democratized and distributed
Speaker 3: all over the internet. You can learn just about everything
Speaker 3: from YouTube, and there are so many things that we
Speaker 3: can be doing. We don't need to be whining and
Speaker 3: complaining about stuff. So look, we have great opportunities right now.
Speaker 3: This could be the Family of Faith's finest hour in
Speaker 3: the history of America and turn things back. Maybe our
Speaker 3: setback culturally has really been all along a setup for
Speaker 3: a comeback led by the Family of Faith.
Speaker 1: That is honestly one of the most important messages I
Speaker 1: have heard on our podcast for sure, Seriously hearing you
Speaker 1: say that it was so convicting. Yeah, we have been victims,
Speaker 1: and we've created an environment where we actually pay people
Speaker 1: to complain on our behalf and you are doing the
Speaker 1: complete opposite.
Speaker 3: And then we pay with our taxes for public schools
Speaker 3: to turn our kids against the family, against God, and
Speaker 3: against America.
Speaker 2: And we say, oh no, this must mean that.
Speaker 3: The rapture's coming by Thursday, and so we'll get out
Speaker 3: of here and it'll all be over, Like are you
Speaker 3: kidding me?
Speaker 2: Can you imagine, if.
Speaker 3: You know, the Pilgrims had that attitude when things were
Speaker 3: far worse than they are now, Or go back fifteen hundred,
Speaker 3: two thousand years when Christians are being thrown to lions
Speaker 3: and lit on fire to light up the nighttime games
Speaker 3: at the coliseum guys, it gets much much worse than this,
Speaker 3: And the only reason it's not like that now is
Speaker 3: because people had an optimistic view of the future and
Speaker 3: they built the world for their children. They weren't looking
Speaker 3: to be rescued and escaped by God just taking care
Speaker 3: of it for them.
Speaker 2: They said, no, God worked through me. I am your
Speaker 2: hands and feet.
Speaker 1: So if this is anything like what the show is like,
Speaker 1: I encourage people to definitely go there, watch it, have
Speaker 1: your kids watch it, because you are exactly the voice
Speaker 1: we need right now. The idea that someone is going
Speaker 1: to come with positivity, optimism and christ and light is
Speaker 1: so important and that's what we've been looking for. So
Speaker 1: I so I appreciate you so much. I think you're awesome.
Speaker 1: I think what you're doing is amazing and I'm so
Speaker 1: glad you came on today.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Tutor, keep up the great work.
Speaker 2: Your voice is so important.
Speaker 3: Your producer is doing such a great job, and let's
Speaker 3: keep working together. And again, I believe that the Lord
Speaker 3: multiplies what he loves.
Speaker 1: That's right. Absolutely, well, Kirk Cameron. We appreciate you.
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