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Speaker 1: I've looked at social media once or twice, and I've

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Speaker 1: learned the only thing that goes more viral than a sweet,

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Speaker 1: happy marriage proposal is a messy, awkward marriage proposal.

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Speaker 2: Gone horribly wrong.

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Speaker 1: That's true, and that's why when I saw our listener's

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Speaker 1: email today, I knew we had to talk to him,

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Speaker 1: because he hasn't had just one failed proposal, but three

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Speaker 1: out am I doing something wrong here? Or is there

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Speaker 1: another explanation You're gonna hear it in your brand new

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Speaker 1: awkward Tuesday phone call. Next, It's awkward, It's day, It's

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Speaker 1: awkward Tuesday phone call. Some people in relationships believe there's

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Speaker 1: cosmic signs that show you're meant to be together, Okay,

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Speaker 1: like when you start finishing each other's sentences, or every

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Speaker 1: time you say their name, a church.

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Speaker 3: Bell rings, wow, or.

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Speaker 1: A pigeon lands and poops on your shoulder then flies

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Speaker 1: over in poops on their car.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 1: These are positive signs from the universe saying.

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Speaker 3: You belong together.

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Speaker 1: But one of our listeners apparently has been receiving a

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Speaker 1: different kind of message from the cosmos about his relationship.

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Speaker 1: His name is Keith, Keith, what are the signs telling you?

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Speaker 2: I mean, the signs are kind of the actions of

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Speaker 4: All the signs are from the universe.

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Speaker 3: It can be determined as cosmic messages. I think that's

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Speaker 3: just girlfriend messages. Yeah, from the cons it's.

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Speaker 5: Her name Cosmos.

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Speaker 6: Is that what we're getting now?

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Speaker 3: He could be. But what what is it telling you, Keith?

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Speaker 2: Now her name is Lilah, but who knows. Maybe maybe

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Speaker 2: there is some cosmic energy that's affecting her. Because I

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Speaker 2: really feel like she's trying to sabotage my marriage proposal.

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Speaker 1: I thought you were going to say my marriage, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we would be okay with either one of those things.

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Speaker 3: You're trying.

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Speaker 1: You're trying to propose to your girlfriend, but you feel

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Speaker 1: like she's sabotaging it.

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Speaker 2: Right, we are not married. We've been dating for two years.

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Speaker 2: The first time I tried to propose her, I was

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Speaker 2: going to do it in a park, you know, I

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Speaker 2: the sense that something was up because I was a

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Speaker 2: is not something that we normally do. But as we're

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Speaker 2: walking in the park, she just turns to me and says, Hey,

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Speaker 2: if you're gonna do what I think you're gonna do,

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Speaker 2: I don't want it to be like this.

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Speaker 5: Oh it's pretty public. Okay.

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Speaker 1: I can't believe she just came out and said that

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Speaker 1: to you, Like, well, how did you react when she

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Speaker 1: told you that, Like, don't propose to me right now?

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Speaker 2: I just joked it up. I was like, what do

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Speaker 2: you think I'm not going to propose in a park

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Speaker 2: like this? It's so corny, Like I just I just

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Speaker 3: Just gonna kiss you, but not for those people.

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Speaker 5: Okay, But I think you could take that as a

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Speaker 5: positive too, Like she obviously wants you to do it,

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Speaker 5: and she has a vision of how it's going to

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Speaker 5: And I mean it sounds like she'll say yes, which

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll flash forward a little bit. A couple of

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Speaker 2: you know, pink eye, it'll hit you broke.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she made up an excuse that she had some

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it was a fake eye infection

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Speaker 3: I like that you're not giving up.

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Speaker 5: This is important, and noting how she'd wont it though,

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Speaker 5: I like that it is a good point of lexis

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Speaker 1: Well, he's clearly trying. He's clearly trying to like make

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Speaker 7: But at this rate, it's going to be like, oh,

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Speaker 7: we've been married for three years, but I've been trying

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Speaker 3: For fucking right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So what was your what was your idea for

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, this one is where I'm really like, okay,

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Speaker 2: something's up. So about two weeks ago, I had a

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Speaker 3: We're back to a park, I know, why would you

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Speaker 2: This was on the beach, not in the park.

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Speaker 4: Okay, okay, okay.

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Speaker 3: A very livate, exclusive beach.

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Speaker 2: But when she came and she showed up, she again

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Speaker 3: What whoa, whoa whoa.

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Speaker 2: Because of the candle. The candle fell over and the

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Speaker 2: and I had my phone set up on a tree nearby.

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Speaker 2: I was going to film the proposal, and I saw

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Speaker 3: Oh she started the fire.

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Speaker 7: Maybe she doesn't want to marry you man, And I like, honestly,

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Speaker 7: well that's what I'm worried about, you know, like because

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Speaker 7: we're still like everything else otherwise is still fine.

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Speaker 2: Like so either she doesn't want to get married.

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Speaker 5: Or ready, So what do you want to do with

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Speaker 4: Like?

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Speaker 5: Are we calling her to see.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is this proposal number four.

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Speaker 2: I just I just need some help navigating the conversation.

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Speaker 2: She doesn't know that. I know she boughtched that last one,

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, So this is an information finding mission

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she might not even want to get married to me,

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Speaker 5: These times, return policy on these rings.

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Speaker 7: What's the story that I don't want to be negative,

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Speaker 7: But what happens if you're like, oh, we don't want

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Speaker 1: No, you get married anyway, Jose, that's what you've married.

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Speaker 1: You force the marriage, and then you break up.

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Speaker 5: Some couple say together, some couples break up. It just depends.

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Speaker 1: You won't know until you sign that document locking you

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Speaker 5: Till I hope you know before you sign the document.

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Speaker 3: How could you know until you're married exactly?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we do need to focus on some advice though,

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Speaker 1: so we'll think of some to give you.

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Speaker 3: We'll come back and we'll call your maybe.

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Speaker 1: Future fiance depending on how this conversation goes when we

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Speaker 1: do your awkward Tuesday phone call right after this.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: All right, man, hold on.

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Speaker 4: It's.

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Speaker 1: It's awkward Tuesday phone call. How can you tell if

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Speaker 1: your girlfriend is actively trying to sabotage your marriage proposals?

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Speaker 1: Oh goodness, and I say proposals plural, because our listener

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Speaker 1: Keith has attempted to pop the question three separate times

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Speaker 1: to his girlfriend. Each one got shut down by Lilah

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Speaker 1: on camera while he was secretly filming. As men like

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Speaker 1: to do, let us secretly film us with our girlfriend.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's very illegal, go to jail for a long.

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Speaker 1: Time, unless it's for a marriage proposal, which is totally fine.

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Speaker 1: Because in the footage he saw her purposely knock over

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Speaker 1: stopping the marriage proposal before he even got to it.

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Speaker 3: We considered she's an arsonist.

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Speaker 1: Could be a possibility he might need more flames in

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Speaker 1: the next attempt. It's just after that, Keith is wondering

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Not exactly the easiest conversation to have with your significant other.

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Speaker 3: So he needs advice, Brooke, what do you have to

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Speaker 5: Well, I think you do something that my husband perfected

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Speaker 3: Let's yeah, let's talk into the bedroom.

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Speaker 5: Stuff, and that is play dumb.

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Speaker 3: Okay, play dumb.

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Speaker 5: Go into it and just be like, Okay, I didn't

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Speaker 5: I was filming, and you wouldn't believe what I saw.

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Speaker 3: It looked like you tried to light.

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Speaker 5: The blanket on fire.

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Speaker 3: Isn't that crazy? I see?

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Speaker 1: So it's not like you're actively accusing her of doing it.

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Speaker 3: You're just like, I saw something weird, Yeah, weird, it did.

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Speaker 3: What do you think about that, Keith?

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Speaker 2: That might work. I'm pretty good at playing dumb.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all of us, sorry have that ability. So okay,

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Speaker 1: keep that in your back pocket, Hose. What's your advice?

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Speaker 3: Maybe it has nothing to do with you.

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Speaker 7: It could be so something that she's built this up

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 1: It is interesting that all of your talks about marriage,

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Speaker 1: those are going fine, but when it comes to the

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Speaker 1: actual proposal, that's where everything falls off the right place. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, alexis where's your recommendation? Where should he propose?

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Speaker 4: I don't want to get married.

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Speaker 3: I don't know it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, there's no good place for all right. Well, that's

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Speaker 1: our advice for you. Keep We're all scared in studio.

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Speaker 1: Thank god you're the person making this call, but we

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Speaker 1: will be on the other line ready to jump in

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Speaker 1: if we feel like you need a little bit of help.

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Speaker 3: You ready, ma'am?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I think so.

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Speaker 3: All right, you got it?

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Speaker 4: Buddy?

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Speaker 1: What's the worst that can happen? You're just asking your

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Speaker 3: Discusss her, they could break up.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I'm trying to ask that question in a positive way.

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Speaker 1: What's the worst that could happen? I wasn't expecting everybody

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Speaker 1: to jump on all right, Sorry about that, Keith, but

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Speaker 1: good luck.

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Speaker 3: We'll be here if you need here, we go.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Hey, babe, how's it going, oh, hey, I'm good.

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Speaker 4: How are you?

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Speaker 4: Well that's sweet of you.

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Speaker 2: Is there is there a problem? Is there something going on?

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Speaker 2: Is everything? Okay? I didn't really.

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Speaker 4: I've just been having some second thoughts and I've been

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Speaker 2: You about it. Okay, Uh like, what what do you

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Speaker 4: The thing is I'm having the thoughts and I don't

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, babe, I just like I don't I don't

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Speaker 4: Mmmm Okay, I don't know how to say this. Okay. So,

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm not sure if that's possible.

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Speaker 6: What that it's not a saying that's not that's not it.

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Speaker 4: What's going on?

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Speaker 3: What?

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Speaker 4: Who are all these people? What's happening?

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Speaker 1: These people that you're hearing were a radio show called

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Speaker 2: Oh gosh, yeah.

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Speaker 3: With your future he's really good. Yeah that doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: It could matter to her if she prioritizes that high

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Speaker 5: I have a story that will change your mind.

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Speaker 3: I promise we're going to be How much time do

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Speaker 2: Hold on everybody? I just I just want to say something.

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Speaker 2: I like, I actually am really good at basketball. Like

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Speaker 3: I know Brooks on the volleyball team on the C squad.

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Speaker 4: So Keith, I'm so sorry. I didn't know all these

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Speaker 5: He wanted the truth out and sounded like you guys

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Speaker 3: I don't know if this is overstepping.

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Speaker 1: But I feel like Keith has noticed a few things

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm just hesitant.

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Speaker 1: Okay, because you're worried that someday you're gonna have babies

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Speaker 4: I grew up playing sports. I always imagined being at

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Speaker 2: And you can't know.

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Speaker 5: That, Like, there's no way to know, like how your

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I saw him, Well, they'll get all the love and

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Speaker 5: Them that, Okay, Like that is such a great response,

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Speaker 5: And that's what you really want to look for, is

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Speaker 1: I never heard Lila say anything about wanting her children

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Speaker 3: She didn't bring it up. They get participation. True, I'm

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Speaker 6: But my best friend and Mary, one of the most

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Speaker 6: Oh no, he's just that's what he is he would

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Speaker 3: Say, you don't know.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if that's possible.

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Speaker 1: Okay, We're just we're just going to read between the

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Speaker 2: All right. Well it's also a team sport, right, and

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Speaker 2: I'm a great team player.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so much of a team player. You never shoot

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Speaker 4: It, all right. I mean, of course we can talk

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Speaker 3: There's a sliver of hope for you right there.

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Speaker 1: So if I was you, I would propose in the

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Speaker 3: This is not the time before you lose it, Keith,

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Speaker 4: You don't have to propose right now. But I am

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Speaker 3: I believe your chance. It was right there somewhere.

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Speaker 2: Well, dude, thanks so much.

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Speaker 1: Just remember to stay away from any beaches, parks, fancy

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Speaker 5: And basketball court and basketball courts. Yes, it's freaking Jeffrey

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Speaker 1: Is anything more of a turnoff than an unathletic baby.

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Speaker 6: I'm telling you you can't judge how athletic your kids

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Speaker 1: Well, sure, but once once an unathletic child comes out,

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Speaker 1: And immediately I think, yikes, he's not going to the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Look, I don't think we fixed this relationship by any

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it might not.

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Speaker 1: Be the same things, but it's better to figure that

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Speaker 3: Hey, but they could be good at theater.

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Speaker 4: You know, yeah, instrument. There you go, Chess. Okay.

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Speaker 3: Some people want loving, trusting partners.

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Speaker 1: Other people want a genetic bull who produces guaranteed NBA superstar.

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Speaker 3: You're allowed to want that, Brooke. Let the women want

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Speaker 3: what they want, so weird. Oh that's fine.

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Speaker 1: If you want help with your dating life or you're

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Speaker 1: approving that, Brook.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, then you can.

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Speaker 1: Then you're safe to email our show and we'll help

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Speaker 1: you out with an Awkward Tuesday. And check all of

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