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Speaker 1: Welcome back everybody to Bachelor Happy Hours, Golden Hour. Thanks

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Speaker 1: so much for joining us again. We're so excited to

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Speaker 1: be back. And boy do we have a good day coming.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. But before that, check out our latest episode.

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Speaker 2: We've been having so much fun answering your questions, chatting

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Speaker 2: with your Bachelor Nation phase always fun.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, Today we have a very very special guest. And

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Speaker 1: to Kathy and I, it means a whole lot to

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Speaker 1: welcome from our season of Golden Bachelor.

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Speaker 3: April's here. Hi, I can't believe I am in the

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Speaker 3: room with both of you. Now. I've had my time

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Speaker 3: with Kathy and I haven't had my gig with you yet.

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Speaker 1: And wait, we're neighbors now, are we not?

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Speaker 4: You're in New York. We got to set something up now,

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Speaker 4: all right, Well, hold on my.

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Speaker 3: First car accident. I have no idea where I'm going dating.

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Speaker 2: It's April, April. We cannot We got we got to

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Speaker 2: start one thing at a time.

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Speaker 4: There.

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Speaker 2: First of all, we're going to back it up. We're

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Speaker 2: gonna we're so excited to see we're gonna get into

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Speaker 2: it all. But we got to start with first things first.

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Speaker 2: One word, April, you know me the English major. In

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Speaker 2: one word, how would you describe your time in Paradise,

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Speaker 2: your experience?

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Speaker 4: Just what work? Come on?

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Speaker 3: That's a good question, exhilarating, It was freeing for me.

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Speaker 3: That's the word free.

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Speaker 4: Free, love it. I love that. Tell me why?

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Speaker 3: Because I was ready. I knew enough about the Bachelor

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Speaker 3: by that point, I knew enough about what was going on.

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Speaker 3: I had gone through a lot since I had been

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Speaker 3: on the show that I was able to really let

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Speaker 3: it out and and just for once be myself. The

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Speaker 3: first show, I think I was not ready. I was

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Speaker 3: not over Ralph. I didn't understand the show. I didn't

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Speaker 3: understand girls. I didn't understand that after being with Ralph

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Speaker 3: for twenty one years, I had forgotten what it was

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Speaker 3: like to have girlfriends because you share that and we

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Speaker 3: just hung out together when you're just a couple, you

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Speaker 3: go to dinner together, you go this together. So there

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Speaker 3: I am with girls for the first time, like in

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Speaker 3: twenty one years. I'm like, what the heck do I do?

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Speaker 3: What do I do with this? So now I know

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Speaker 3: what to do with this? And then when I went

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Speaker 3: back to Paradise and they put me with Kat in

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Speaker 3: the room, I was like, well, how was that?

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Speaker 4: How was it? How was that relationship with her?

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Speaker 3: I love her? She and I have the same trauma.

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Speaker 3: I was like her mom, And in fact, she hooked

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Speaker 3: me up with her mom and she said, I want

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Speaker 3: you to talk to my mom. And I said, that's

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Speaker 3: the nicest honor you could ever give me.

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Speaker 2: And April, you got to say, do you remember they

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Speaker 2: said that you are what Cat's going to be. Like

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Speaker 2: Cat's a younger version of you, and I think that's

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Speaker 2: very true.

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Speaker 3: I hope she'll be better than me. But yeah, like

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Speaker 3: I'm there for her, but she is a lot like me,

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Speaker 3: and she's impulsive, and sometimes she's blunt, and sometimes she

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Speaker 3: doesn't think and all those things that I'm still.

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Speaker 2: We're not talking about me, April, We're talking about Cat.

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Speaker 3: You have made history out of not thinking good. That

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Speaker 3: has become your claim to fame.

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Speaker 1: Okay, April, I have to know were you hoping or

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Speaker 1: expecting some new men of the Goldens to be there?

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Speaker 1: What was your thought when you got there of who

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Speaker 1: was there?

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Speaker 3: Honestly, what the hell am I going to do with this?

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Speaker 4: Exactly?

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Speaker 3: I was like, how do I make this work? I

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Speaker 3: wanted to stay on of course, that's the point of

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Speaker 3: the game. But also the point is the fine love.

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Speaker 3: It's about this all figure out wasn't happening here, was

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Speaker 3: not happening. She took Keith as a buddy, which was fine.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's the way of life.

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Speaker 2: As Everrol Keith was not interested in any of us.

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Speaker 2: Were he one day be all of our friends?

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Speaker 3: But I think he told me right away, you live

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Speaker 4: But can I just tell you in support of Keith,

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Speaker 4: who I love.

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Speaker 2: By the way, Keith said the same thing to Nancy

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Speaker 2: when they had their conversation, and he said he learned

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Speaker 2: from that experience that distance should not be a thing.

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Speaker 2: So you know, the moral of this story is you

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Speaker 2: and Nancy maybe get phone calls from Keith, I think.

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Speaker 3: But I loved Keith. He was the one who helped

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Speaker 3: me pick Jonathan so no one was watching, and he

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Speaker 3: was like May Kissedory history.

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Speaker 1: And I thought I never expected less. I know, although

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Speaker 1: I thought maybe you had it, you would have an

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Speaker 1: interest in one of the younger guys, But what you

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Speaker 1: did it was like, I'm.

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Speaker 3: Just going to go out with a young guy this weekend.

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Speaker 3: I think I really need a young guy. I think that.

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Speaker 1: Yes, tell me I see you on TikTok with the

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Speaker 1: dating experience.

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Speaker 3: We have a news story to tell. It's going to

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Speaker 3: be on TikTok soon. And it gets even better. It's

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Speaker 3: getting even better.

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Speaker 1: And tell me the craziest date you were on, except

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Speaker 3: The hiking one, the craziest date I was on is

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Speaker 3: when he decided he loved me and told me he

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Speaker 3: loved me the first date and I wasn't even sure.

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Speaker 4: And then is this a new guy? Is this a

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Speaker 3: And I'm just going to tell it screw it. So

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Speaker 3: then when he told me he loved me, and then

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Speaker 3: as soon as I told him, I'm going to back

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Speaker 3: up a little bit, it's going too quick. I really

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Speaker 3: just want to have fun. He was out of the game,

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Speaker 3: and he gave me the best excuse not to go

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Speaker 1: No, no, he did not, And I was like, you

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't even say that.

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Speaker 2: It's like I had I'm lost April. Wait, I'm lost

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Speaker 2: you this guy? You had one date with He tells

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Speaker 3: With you, right and and well, and then now.

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Speaker 4: He doesn't want to go out with you because you said,

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Speaker 3: I swear to God. And he was beautiful, He looked

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Speaker 3: very nice. He fit all my boxes. I was like excited.

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Speaker 3: People would walk up to us. I swear to God,

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Speaker 3: not once, but three times. Two. Three different couples walked

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Speaker 3: up and said, you look like the most beautiful husband

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Speaker 4: Good looking couple, a great look.

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Speaker 3: And then then it happens again at the ice cream store.

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Speaker 3: did look good together. I just one thing I noticed.

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Speaker 3: Girls remember this. Guys are reading everything we're reading. They

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Speaker 3: right until slips came. Slip of Tom like in other words,

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Speaker 3: I like dogs. He goes, oh, I love dogs. And

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Speaker 3: then later on I said, in a week or so,

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Speaker 3: I said, you know, I'm interviewing. It's really important to me.

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Speaker 3: He goes, well, they're just dogs.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, let's the truth be told.

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Speaker 3: You so if you wait long enough.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, The truth though, was find its way to

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Speaker 1: You just mentioned that checked everything off your list. What

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Speaker 1: are the main qualities that you look for in a

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Speaker 1: middle he was.

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Speaker 3: He pretended to be spiritual. I really like that. He pretended.

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Speaker 2: Wait, can I just say this is so April? He pretended.

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Speaker 2: He pretended. No, no, I love it. It's so you

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Speaker 2: go ahead.

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Speaker 4: He was trying to you.

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Speaker 3: Yes, he was very good. Wait a minute, you're gonna

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Speaker 3: with that put eyebrow pencil on and curled his eyelashes.

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Speaker 3: He's the only guy I've ever went out that knows

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Speaker 3: more new uh beauty treatments and plastic I kept looking.

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Speaker 3: I was like wondering, if we really kissed like smoosh,

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Speaker 3: smush smush, would our makeup smear on each other?

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Speaker 4: Wait? Wait, wait, inquiry minds want to know. Did you

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Speaker 4: make out with him? And did your makeup smush?

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Speaker 3: I didn't because I just I could. I wanted to

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Speaker 2: All right enough to rejects. April, tell about the good ones.

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Speaker 2: I want to know the good ones who are the

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Speaker 2: good ones you're dating.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: What are you looking for?

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Speaker 3: And I am looking for someone who is very powerful,

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Speaker 3: not money wise, powerful that I feel safe with, that

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Speaker 3: really sees me in all my flaws. I do not

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Speaker 3: always curl my hair like this. I did this for you,

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Speaker 3: Susan your thank you?

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Speaker 4: What did you do for me? April?

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Speaker 3: I showed up because I love you. Okay, so, I

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Speaker 3: but powerful really sees me and will protect me. And

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Speaker 3: I know in the dark moments when I screw up,

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Speaker 3: I come home crying and they go, I'm here to

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: So, So I want to know when when you were

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Speaker 2: on the show with us before you lived in Florida.

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Speaker 2: I know you recently moved to New York. You're loving

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Speaker 2: New York. Tell us a little bit. The men are

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Speaker 2: better in New York. Tell us about the move, tell

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Speaker 2: us all about it.

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Speaker 3: The move was this was the hardest. Honestly, other than

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Speaker 3: Ralph dying, this was the hardest thing I've ever done.

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Speaker 3: They don't take my health insurance here. They I have

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Speaker 3: to find new doctors. I have to find new plastic surgeons.

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Speaker 3: My lips messed up here. That's not I have to

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Speaker 3: The dogs are not used to this. We're used to

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Speaker 3: having our own backyard. I bought a beautiful condo. It's gorgeous.

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Speaker 3: It looks like I'm in Pleasantville. The people are nice,

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Speaker 3: but it's a little further out than I would want.

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Speaker 4: It's where are you exactly?

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Speaker 3: I am outside of Nayak. I'm on the Hudson Bay.

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Speaker 3: I walk, I live near water. Every day it's on.

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Speaker 3: I have a.

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Speaker 4: That wind is going to blow in the winter. Ready

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Speaker 4: for winter.

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Speaker 1: No, no, But you're close to your grandchildren, right.

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Speaker 3: I love them. In fact, Piper is going to be

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Speaker 3: auditioning for a dance or a play, and her mother

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Speaker 3: sent me a video of the dance and I'm like,

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Speaker 3: think teacher, and I'm like, yes, yes.

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Speaker 4: You so you're going to stay put?

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Speaker 2: I mean you don't. Sounds like I can't decide do

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Speaker 2: you love where you are or not?

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I am surely been there a minute, right, right,

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Speaker 3: I've also been there a minute. I still don't have

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Speaker 4: Who do you keep in touch with from Paradise?

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Speaker 3: I talked to who else? I try to catch up

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Speaker 4: So what about Jonathan?

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Speaker 3: No, I think Jonathan's afraid of me?

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Speaker 2: What about Sean? You did a body shot? For God's sakes.

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Speaker 3: I you didn't know that was going to happen at all.

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Speaker 1: But wait, I have to tell you smelling the underwear

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Speaker 3: This is a fact from your counselor friend. Here people

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Speaker 2: you're beautiful, you look fabulous. So what are you doing

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Speaker 1: Decorating you on a dating site? Is they're always in

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Speaker 4: Yeah, what do you miss about Florida?

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Speaker 3: Everything I missed? The What do I miss? My plastic surgeon,

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Speaker 4: What else? Do you wait? You know I'm going down

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Speaker 4: You have got a perfect face, now you've got But

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Speaker 4: Well, you can go back to Florida if you want

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm going to go back and make a great

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Speaker 3: You know what bothers me the most, And maybe you

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Speaker 2: I mean, I just you take you take the ferry across,

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Speaker 2: So take So you'll take that across and if and

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Speaker 3: You know why, three hot guys are down there that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, once from Paris one. Oh he's got long cruel there.

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Speaker 3: He's just I kind of like my guys, a little rough,

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Speaker 4: So who's the young when you have a date with April?

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Speaker 4: And how young is young?

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Speaker 3: How? Yeah? Sixty So that's.

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Speaker 4: Not Young's sixty nine?

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Speaker 2: How old are you April sixty eight? Sixty nine, seven,

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Speaker 3: No tell me about that. Yeah, so you go to

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Speaker 3: Is he learning English? I heard that he doesn't speak much.

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Speaker 1: He speaks way better English than I do French.

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Speaker 4: Are you studying the French anymore? A little bit? I

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Speaker 1: I could read it a little bit, but to speak

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Speaker 3: Oh, just we are real, come hotel, who's doing? That's

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Speaker 2: As long as you got to learn one in April Cuchet,

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Speaker 3: Oh I know obviously she knows that.

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Speaker 4: Hey, I studied French for five years. I could, I could.

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Speaker 1: I speak in French and Spanish and in English all

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Speaker 2: Let'sten this, this podcast, blessedly is not about me and

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Speaker 3: Like like that.

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Speaker 4: Crickets.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I just you know, it's just I've had

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Speaker 3: Have true for you. It is for me. I can

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Speaker 4: No, five.

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Speaker 3: Five minutes can really tell.

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Speaker 4: But I will tell you.

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Speaker 2: I will tell you, and I actually I was going

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Speaker 2: But I'm in an age now where I want the

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Speaker 2: He doesn't have to be the best looking man on

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Speaker 1: Not the best looking man, but attractive to me. I

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Speaker 3: I have to.

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Speaker 4: Of course, you have to be a trag.

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Speaker 2: But I'm saying I used to just look at men

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Speaker 4: I'm not like that anymore.

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Speaker 3: I am. I have to really want to rip your

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Speaker 4: Or you're not going to I really want to kiss you,

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Speaker 3: And I want to know that I want to breathe

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Speaker 4: She knows, Susan, Susan. Let me make the simple. April.

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Speaker 2: April has to know that she can rip off his

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Speaker 3: He When he did that, I was like, he's a

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Speaker 1: No, tell me your favorite time on paradise, Like, did

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Speaker 3: Actually was Sean's kiss. I have to admit I keep

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Speaker 4: Nice. Would you date a guy that young, April? Seriously?

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Speaker 4: I get it.

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to have any more children. I mean,

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Speaker 4: Somebody that did you get married?

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Speaker 2: Well, Susan, Susan, we're barking up the go ahead. I

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Speaker 4: You and I were just going to find them for April.

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Speaker 3: You didn't watch.

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Speaker 1: You watch the rest of the show, and Jonathan didn't

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Speaker 4: For me, that tells me that's a problem within right, he.

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Speaker 3: Has issues, and maybe that's why I was attracted jump.

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Speaker 1: Too, because good guys who have issues, all right, the therapist.

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Speaker 4: Comes out all right.

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Speaker 2: so here we got ready. It's no secret, April, that

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Speaker 3: I wait until we're relaxed. I wait until they're open.

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Speaker 3: This is not a first date. Usually think it's not

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Speaker 3: We've been through that ourselves as clost together, even not

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Speaker 3: No? I just want to I want to know it's

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Speaker 3: used with his mom. He's going to tell me a story. Yeah,

445
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,119
Speaker 3: and from the story I'm going to extract information that

446
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,959
Speaker 3: maybe I want to keep and maybe I don't. I

447
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,879
Speaker 3: never want to make anybody feel as a therapist or

448
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 3: with a girlfriend or would you. I really don't want

449
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 3: to make anyone feel uncomfortable.

450
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Speaker 1: And it takes time to get to the point where

451
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Speaker 1: where he is at is anything touchy? You know, emotional wise,

452
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Speaker 1: you get you got to feel it like and get.

453
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Speaker 3: To know you feel if I'm attracted to them. But April,

454
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Speaker 3: do I want to be his shrink?

455
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Speaker 2: Hell no, That's exactly where I was. That is exactly

456
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Speaker 2: where I was going. So you you are a counselor,

457
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Speaker 2: but you also want to have a relationship with a guy.

458
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Speaker 2: So how does that work? How do you in your

459
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Speaker 2: dating separate you know, wanting to therapize him? I just

460
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Speaker 2: made up that word.

461
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Speaker 3: I try to not do it because men don't like it. Nobody.

462
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,360
Speaker 3: I try not to even say I'm a therapist. I mean,

463
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Speaker 3: you know, if you want to scare people, just go

464
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 3: I'm a mental health of you. Guys are like, I'm

465
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:18,399
Speaker 3: just beautiful blonde. Yeah, I'm just here to have fun.

466
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:22,440
Speaker 3: Love you and you like to do it. I'll tell

467
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 3: you mine if you you know That's another thing. I mean,

468
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 3: we're all at our age, both male and female, playing

469
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Speaker 3: the game. We know what to say and what not

470
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Speaker 3: to say. I like to just go and find the

471
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Speaker 3: real person. So really tell me, you know, maybe ask

472
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Speaker 3: a question, what really do you love? Or But I

473
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,119
Speaker 3: wouldn't ask them too quickly, like I didn't ask anyone

474
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Speaker 3: on Paradise, like what's really broken your heart? No?

475
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Speaker 2: I mean this isn't well you weren't interested really in

476
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Speaker 2: anyone in Paradise.

477
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Speaker 4: But but I mean, or were you?

478
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Speaker 3: I want to know?

479
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Speaker 4: Oh god, how could you be?

480
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Speaker 2: I won't let me just say I she made out

481
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 2: with Jack in the pool and then and then sent

482
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Speaker 2: him home like a sling shot.

483
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Speaker 3: I know, I know I did that.

484
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Speaker 2: I know not Hey, no judgment. I was so glad

485
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 2: that we rekindled our friendship.

486
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Speaker 3: Uh. I really love you guys.

487
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Speaker 2: I mean you and I really hadn't talked well you

488
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 2: hadn't talked to Susan either, But I just want to

489
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 2: put that out there. But I loved, I love spending

490
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Speaker 2: time with you on Paradise, but I also.

491
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Speaker 3: With Kathy and you and and and Nancy. I had

492
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Speaker 3: to make a decision way a year ago which we

493
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 3: weren't even talking. I decided I was going to love

494
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 3: you no matter what as and I met you so

495
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 3: the whole time right right, Yeah, you did I forget

496
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Speaker 3: I want to. I want to send you an air

497
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,639
Speaker 3: kiss because we were I was leaving somewhere and you

498
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 3: said to me you didn't kiss me goodbye, and that

499
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 3: hurt me, and I never went back, so I didn't.

500
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Speaker 3: I don't forget anything you say, and that really that

501
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,919
Speaker 3: really hurt me because I really do love you, and

502
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 3: I thought, you know, why wouldn't I do that? And

503
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 3: I was just hurt and confused.

504
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 4: It's all learning experience.

505
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,439
Speaker 3: Well, and I'm still confused how Bachelor functions.

506
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 4: And that's all off the show.

507
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 1: And sharing with me how you reunited and everything's good

508
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 1: to get warmed me.

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Speaker 4: It really did. Yeah, I was so that was a

510
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:41,439
Speaker 4: highlight for me, April.

511
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Speaker 3: I love being on that show. I love everything about

512
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 3: me too. I love I think all three of us

513
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Speaker 3: will say we love Bachelor.

514
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, April.

515
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Speaker 1: Now we'd love to know what advice you have for

516
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:59,719
Speaker 1: Golden's that struggled to put themselves out there when it

517
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 1: comes to dating. We get so many writings from goldens

518
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:08,160
Speaker 1: that aren't comfortable with dating apps or feel nervous about

519
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 1: dating in their small towns, what advice would you have

520
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 1: for them?

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00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 3: I want you to think about ladies, your worst heartbreak,

522
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 3: and I want you to picture it in your mind,

523
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 3: and I want you to think about how you got

524
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 3: up and you rose to the occasion. With tears, heartaches, stumbling, falling,

525
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 3: you got through it and now you're a stronger woman.

526
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 3: You are stronger than you know. You are more powerful

527
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:44,679
Speaker 3: than you know. And if your heart beckons you to

528
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 3: take a chance to it, but if you don't want to, also,

529
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 3: you have the power at any time to say no.

530
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Speaker 3: I mean, we all keep telling all of us, say yes,

531
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Speaker 3: say yes, say yes, and some of us have been

532
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,919
Speaker 3: saying yes our whole life. Yes I'll do this for you,

533
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 3: Yes I'll put up with this, Yes I'll forgive you,

534
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 3: Yes I'll do this, Yes I'll do this. And I'm like,

535
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 3: the first time I said no to Ralph, I was like,

536
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 3: you felt powerful. Yeah, he didn't say anything, he did it.

537
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,159
Speaker 3: I should have been saying no a lot longer. So

538
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 3: your power and follow your intuition. Your intuition is never wrong,

539
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 3: even if it looks like a failure. It's not. It's

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Speaker 3: a lesson.

541
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Speaker 1: But if they're not comfortable with dating apps, how would

542
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Speaker 1: do it?

543
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:37,880
Speaker 4: Well, I'm not true.

544
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 3: I only do one date to a week and I

545
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 3: see that date through. It might last three weeks, it

546
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 3: might last it might be talking on the phone. Also,

547
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Speaker 3: I do a date online on Zoom or on FaceTime.

548
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 3: If I'm not comfortable, I ease into it gracefully. I

549
00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:00,239
Speaker 3: am easing into living New York like a baby thing

550
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 3: into water. I'm not going all over the place right now.

551
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 3: I'm not. I'm just doing one thing a day for yourself.

552
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 3: And I love that value. Know your value if you've

553
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 3: had a breakdown, if you've had a heartbreak. I always

554
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 3: tell my clients do one thing, write it down, and

555
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 3: it might be minuscule to some people, big lead.

556
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Speaker 4: You know what I just have to say.

557
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Speaker 2: And I love that people are a j pril that

558
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 2: you say, think about the worst thing and you get

559
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 2: up in your strong because I feel that way I've

560
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 2: lived other than losing a child, I personally, i think

561
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 2: I've suffered the worst loss.

562
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Speaker 4: I think, and I think when you said that, it

563
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 4: wore my heart. So thank you for saying that.

564
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know and I know you intimately and

565
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 3: not that infimantly. Everything Well, I know that you have

566
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 3: your triggers, and that's okay. I have intriguers. I and

567
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 3: think it'll be a good learning lesson.

568
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 4: Okay, bro what we We're gonna have to wrap it.

569
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Speaker 4: But I want to know any questions.

570
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 1: We talk along, but we've gotten to ask you so

571
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 1: many questions. We're going to them all. I want to

572
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: be invited to your next whatever that was a one

573
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Speaker 1: time thing we did with Gary's daughters, Christine.

574
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Speaker 3: I want to be invited.

575
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 1: Okay, there, I'm going to see you soon because I'm

576
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 1: right outside of New York.

577
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 3: Okay, And I want to say this, girls, I love you,

578
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 3: I praise you, I appreciate you. You are God's child.

579
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Speaker 3: Great things happened to you. Nothing can stop it, and

580
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 3: so it is. I wish you the best.

581
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Speaker 4: Wait, we're not done yet.

582
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Speaker 2: We're not to know what we're hanging up. Girlfriend, Let

583
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 2: your curls settle on your shoulder. Okay, take a breath there.

584
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Speaker 4: I want you want to.

585
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 2: Know you have questions for us, though, Like I mean,

586
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 2: don't you must have something you want to know that

587
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 2: you've been dying to ask us one the other that

588
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 2: now is going to be on national podcast.

589
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 3: About do you have any questions the two girls that

590
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 3: most people envy.

591
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 4: April, I would, I would. My answer is, I agree

592
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 4: with you.

593
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 2: Susan and I have had a lot of opportunities for me,

594
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 2: and I didn't realize this until as time has gone on,

595
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 2: it's become more and more clear to me. Number One,

596
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 2: I am so grateful to the Bachelor of franchise. They

597
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 2: I didn't realize how lost I was and unhappy I was,

598
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 2: and they gave me back. I would say they gave

599
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 2: me back my happy I am grateful for every experience,

600
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 2: the friendships, not just the women and the guys from

601
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 2: the shows, but the producers, the directors. They I don't

602
00:31:56,480 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 2: think they really know all of them how much they've

603
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 2: changed my life and brought me back to feeling like

604
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 2: a total human being. So while yes, I understand people

605
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 2: maybe nvs or whatever, I hope they also realize that

606
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 2: I was in a really lost place and this was

607
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 2: a gift for me, and and it.

608
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 3: Was meant to be and you're right where you're supposed

609
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 3: to be.

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Speaker 1: For me, it was how I how the fans saw me,

611
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: my apology, apologetically authentically Susan, and it worked and and

612
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 1: a lot of real people out there admired who I was.

613
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 3: More both you two girls are large in big mass

614
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 3: we know. But well you're tall too, which looks great

615
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 3: on TV. But your essence, your power, your energy is

616
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 3: it's the energy that's magnifying you when you walk in

617
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 3: and you laugh for always something cute. You are big.

618
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 3: You are big, but.

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Speaker 4: April, let me say one of the things.

620
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Speaker 2: You're on the right track also, But there are people

621
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Speaker 2: don't realize that.

622
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 4: And you're in this too. Girlfriend.

623
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Speaker 2: We as a as a group of golden women, have

624
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Speaker 2: I think we've given a gift. Yes, I've had a

625
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 2: huge gift from Bachelor, but I think we've given a

626
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 2: gift back to men and women of a certain age

627
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 2: because we've given them the belief that all they have

628
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 2: to do is get up to change their lives and

629
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 2: make their lives better, that it's in their court. You know,

630
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 2: life is not over all those things. You know, there's

631
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 2: many chapters to life, and this has make this your

632
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 2: best chapter. It sounds like you know something out of

633
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 2: Rod McEwen.

634
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Speaker 3: But I just think that you guys are a powerhouse

635
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 3: and I'm glad to be part of it, and I'm

636
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 3: glad that that Golden Bachelor is alive and well.

637
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 4: But no, you're part of it. To April. People look

638
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 4: at you and think the same thing. We all.

639
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 2: That's what I'm trying to say. As a group, we

640
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,280
Speaker 2: have changed people's lives and that for me is extremely gratifying.

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Speaker 1: And I hate to do this, ladies, but that does

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Speaker 1: it for this episode of Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour.

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Speaker 4: We love it.

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Speaker 2: Thank you all for joining us. Be sure to follow

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Speaker 2: Bachelor Happy Hour. We have new episodes coming out every

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Speaker 2: week you don't want to miss. If you enjoyed April today,

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Speaker 2: You've got more coming.

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Speaker 4: Make sure to keep submitting your questions to us.

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Speaker 1: You can go to bachelornation dot com, slash Golden Hour,

650
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: or dm us on Instagram at Bachelor Happy Hour.

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Speaker 2: Listen to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour on the iHeartRadio

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Speaker 4: Take care, see you then,