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Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt.
Speaker 2: Our colleague nol is on a grand adventure, but we'll
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Speaker 3: They called me Ben. We're joined as always with our
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Speaker 3: you are here. That makes this the stuff they don't
Speaker 3: want you to know. Now we hear and stuff they
Speaker 3: don't want you to know. Are quite excited, fascinated by
Speaker 3: several things that have popped into the world of the news.
Speaker 3: Immediately after we record these things, other amazing or disturbing
Speaker 3: events occur, and we can't wait to explore them with you.
Speaker 3: We're going to learn about some former mayors. We're going
Speaker 3: to learn about some weaponized balloons. We thought before we
Speaker 3: get into any of that, that we might explore we
Speaker 3: might spend the first part of tonight's program exploring just
Speaker 3: various things that popped up that we thought were interesting. Yes,
Speaker 3: the rumors are true. There is a group of one
Speaker 3: hundred feral chickens terrifying a small village in Norfolk. There
Speaker 3: are drones that are going to be first responders for
Speaker 3: nine to one one calls at Colorado and Matt one story.
Speaker 3: Maybe we begin here.
Speaker 2: Well, can we begin with just a little bit more
Speaker 2: about those chickens, because I want to know about these chickens.
Speaker 2: They're feral. Does that mean they're like going around attacking people?
Speaker 3: It means that they are a out of control nuisance
Speaker 3: in Sneededisham, Norfolk. They are apparently not owned by anybody.
Speaker 3: We'll get to the slingshot guy in the minute, which
Speaker 3: I think we both really identify with these This town, Sneedisham, Norfolk,
Speaker 3: is pretty small. It's a village and they have per
Speaker 3: an article in the Guardian made life quite difficult for
Speaker 3: the residents of this small town of Sneddensham. I'm not
Speaker 3: sure how to say it. What would you say, snetti Sham, Sneedtisham, Yes, either.
Speaker 2: Snedisham, I don't know, Sneedtisham. That's how I'd say. No,
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: So people have Let's go to Rod McKenzie, counselor the
Speaker 3: parish who said quote referring to the chickens. They're a
Speaker 3: pain in the butt. If they come into your garden,
Speaker 3: they dig everything up. It's not food for the chickens,
Speaker 3: it's every bit of detritus they can find, and that
Speaker 3: brings rats.
Speaker 2: Dude, shout out for detritis in a quote.
Speaker 3: What was it someone left the other week? A court
Speaker 3: of pink prawns. The rats are quite sizable around here,
Speaker 3: and they breed like hell. So probably there's a feedback
Speaker 3: Blue created because people from round the land came to
Speaker 3: see this roving band of this motley crew of feral chickens.
Speaker 3: And when they do, just like people who visit Xingjing,
Speaker 3: the one armed macaw monkey in China, when tourists visit,
Speaker 3: they leave food for the chickens. Leaving food for the
Speaker 3: chickens brings, of course, the rats.
Speaker 2: What kind of food do you leave for the robot
Speaker 2: dogs with large assault rifles attached to them that China
Speaker 2: just unveiled. They unveiled not just a couple. Remember we
Speaker 2: did an episode where oh, look, this one company made
Speaker 2: this one type of robodog that has a sniper rifle
Speaker 2: attached to it. Well, they just unveiled basically a battalion
Speaker 2: of these robo dogs with assault rifles.
Speaker 3: Which we immediately predicted would happen and be inevitable when
Speaker 3: when this first came out, I would say, to answer
Speaker 3: your question, there, Matt, the food you leave those dogs
Speaker 3: is AMMO and batteries.
Speaker 2: Yep, these are little robo pause to somehow flip it
Speaker 2: around getting in the right slot.
Speaker 3: So we wish the good people of Sneadisham Norfolk the best,
Speaker 3: and don't want to sound too dismissive. They don't know
Speaker 3: who owns the land in the forest where these chickens
Speaker 3: appear too, you know that's their HQ. We don't know
Speaker 3: who which human owns land yet, but we can say
Speaker 3: you could always just eat them, right, they're chickens. You
Speaker 3: can just kill them and eat them. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I guess.
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 2: There's another great quote from that Guardian article. A dog
Speaker 2: walker who quote did not wish to be named, said quote,
Speaker 2: people in the new houses are moaning about them, but
Speaker 2: they've been here such a long time, and they are
Speaker 2: more important things going on in the world than a
Speaker 2: few chickens. They should get a life.
Speaker 3: So maybe it's an hoa embellishing a problem which would
Speaker 3: not be out of the bounds of Hams.
Speaker 2: Can you imagine if that was just a thing like
Speaker 2: local Hoa's would just go out and make a press
Speaker 2: release about somebody's house that was just minorly unkept.
Speaker 3: Get it in Deadline, get it in Hollywood.
Speaker 2: Neighbors are furious.
Speaker 3: Next thing, you know, we've got the evening news pundits saying,
Speaker 3: let's talk about the real issues. Walter Starkley's grass is
Speaker 3: out of control?
Speaker 2: Has that dude? Yes, Ben, that's hilarious. Has there been
Speaker 2: a sitcom that is just an hoa?
Speaker 3: That's a great idea.
Speaker 2: All right, we should cut that, just make the show.
Speaker 3: So without further a duel. Let's also move on to
Speaker 3: a story that I think spoke to both of us
Speaker 3: and hopefully all of us listening along at home. What
Speaker 3: does it feel like to fight the power? What does
Speaker 3: it feel like to be a real life Bart Simpson?
Speaker 2: For several years, Oh, I know what you're talking about. Ben. Guys,
Speaker 2: there has been a serial slingshot sharpshooter that's been hanging
Speaker 2: out in this little California town called a Zeusa, Azusa
Speaker 2: for over a decade. There have been ball bearings just
Speaker 2: flying willy nilly from somewhere nobody knows where, hitting cars,
Speaker 2: at least to according to the reports in San Francisco Gate,
Speaker 2: no human beings have been hit or injured by one
Speaker 2: of these things. But imagine that you're just kind of
Speaker 2: going about your day in your neighborhood wherever you live,
Speaker 2: and every once in a while a giant ball bearing
Speaker 2: zooms past you and impacts the Ford tourists that's parked
Speaker 2: right on the side of the road. There. Not fun.
Speaker 2: You feel like you were under attack maybe, but it also,
Speaker 2: in a weird way, seems very Bart Simpson, As you said, Ben,
Speaker 2: someone just doing some kind of what would you call that, Ben,
Speaker 2: purposeful mischief? But it's not really, it's more of than mischief,
Speaker 2: because that's.
Speaker 3: Dangerous grassroots activism. I'm kidding, I kid, Yeah, this this idea,
Speaker 3: we could call it mischief Dennis the Menace style. You know,
Speaker 3: look at this rascal. But this rascal in this situation
Speaker 3: is very lucky that they have not caused a grievous
Speaker 3: harm to a person.
Speaker 2: Agreed, But they could have, and maybe they would have
Speaker 2: if they were escalating. Though ten years is a long
Speaker 2: time for a serial slingshot or to escalate, you know,
Speaker 2: what I mean. Usually that would be like first couple times,
Speaker 2: then you move on to what aiming at those rope
Speaker 2: what are those robot delivery things that George Washington saw
Speaker 2: not too long ago, start knocking those Anyway, we have
Speaker 2: good news. This serial slingshotter has been identified and apprehended.
Speaker 2: His house has been searched, the ball bearings and the
Speaker 2: slingshot have been recovered, and he's he's in trouble. Mister.
Speaker 3: Does he have to go to slingshot Court?
Speaker 2: Yeah, he does, dude, of course he does. Guess what
Speaker 2: his name is, Ben Neil. You saw his name. It's
Speaker 2: it's an epic.
Speaker 3: Name, okay. Prince Raymond King, Yeah, dude, maybe one years old.
Speaker 2: Dude, if only there was an L in there. So
Speaker 2: it was Prince l ray King. So he's just like
Speaker 2: this guy's.
Speaker 3: Royalty Prince the King King, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Exactly, the King King. Amazing. But yes, he and all
Speaker 2: of the ball bearings were found and he's in big,
Speaker 2: big trouble. According to San Gabriel Valley Tribune.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, shout out to Nathaniel Percy, the journalist reporting there.
Speaker 3: On May twenty fifth of twenty twenty four, as we record,
Speaker 3: he was apparently not a super mobile operator. A lot
Speaker 3: of the ball bearings shot via his sling shot appear
Speaker 3: to have originated from his house yep on North Enid Avenue.
Speaker 2: Just slang in him. Well, here's maybe why he wasn't
Speaker 2: so mobile. At the time of his arrest. He was
Speaker 2: eighty one years old. He is eighty one years old
Speaker 2: because this just happened. But yeah, he's in jail now
Speaker 2: for doing that, and he's been doing it for ten years.
Speaker 2: So I guess once you hit like around seventy, the
Speaker 2: thought of a slingshot pops into your head again at
Speaker 2: some point. If you're Prince King and you're like, man,
Speaker 2: slingshots were cool, I should get my hands on one
Speaker 2: of those. Got all these old ball bearings from. But
Speaker 2: do you have old ball bearings from? I don't even know.
Speaker 3: Well, he got a deal on him somehow. He either
Speaker 3: had them or went to a costco or something like that.
Speaker 3: He's about twenty three miles east of La So West Coasters.
Speaker 3: This could have been you.
Speaker 2: Exactly, But I think what happened is you have that
Speaker 2: idea of the sling shot, you find something to sling,
Speaker 2: and then you let one rip right from your back.
Speaker 2: Porch or something from your backyard, and you just wait
Speaker 2: and then you hear and it's becomes addictive. I think
Speaker 2: you just want to keep hearing that ding sound of
Speaker 2: it impacting the side of a car or a house.
Speaker 3: Yes, perhaps they also they also over at San Gabriel
Speaker 3: Valley Tribune, they spoke to a police lieutenant, Jake Bushy,
Speaker 3: who said, who confirmed most of these ball bearings were
Speaker 3: launched from the King's yard. We're just gonna call him
Speaker 3: the King. And one thing stood out to me here, Matt,
Speaker 3: which is in Bushy's interview with the San Gabriel Valley Tribute.
Speaker 3: He says, Look, we don't know why he was shooting
Speaker 3: at some people or properties versus others. We're not aware
Speaker 3: quote of any kind of motive other than just malicious mischief.
Speaker 2: That's the term malicious mischief. If it was malicious, we
Speaker 2: don't know why. Maybe he was compelled to do it
Speaker 2: for some reason, and.
Speaker 3: Maybe he knows something respect your elders. Maybe he knows
Speaker 3: something we don't.
Speaker 2: Oh. Shoot. NBC Los Angeles has an image of the
Speaker 2: ball bearings and they are sizeable. These are they're they're
Speaker 2: of different sizes, but some of them are very large,
Speaker 2: and some of the impacts on windows appeared. It looks
Speaker 2: like a bullet hole like small arms, like nine millimeter
Speaker 2: bullet holes. That's intense. Wow.
Speaker 3: It could definitely harm someone if you had a good
Speaker 3: aim and you were looking for their throat or their head.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Geez well, hey, that's one Cereal slingshottest behind bars.
Speaker 2: What else is going on? Ben?
Speaker 3: Oh gosh, Well, there's a question for the crew, Matt
Speaker 3: alexis everyone playing along at home? When is the last
Speaker 3: time you ate something that you would consider fast.
Speaker 2: Food Friday or no Saturday? My son and I had
Speaker 2: chicken that was fast food.
Speaker 3: All right, Doc, will will hold, We'll hold for your
Speaker 3: contributions here, we can statistically apparently agree with a recent
Speaker 3: poll that found inflation is hitting everyone. Nearly eighty percent
Speaker 3: of American residents now consider fast food a luxury due
Speaker 3: to these skyrocketing prices.
Speaker 2: I would agree with that, especially if you're talking about
Speaker 2: a five guys or something that's selling a lot of beef.
Speaker 2: I noticed those beef prices are insane.
Speaker 3: Remember when you could go to Taco Bell with like
Speaker 3: a twenty dollars bill and they would essentially ask you
Speaker 3: if you wanted to own the place. You could live
Speaker 3: like a king.
Speaker 2: They'd be like, hello, Prince King, welcome to your domain.
Speaker 2: Please have whatever you would like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't just buy the drive through intercom if
Speaker 3: you don't want the crunch wrap. This leads us to
Speaker 3: something that I think is of growing interest to many
Speaker 3: residents of the United States, regardless of political ideology or
Speaker 3: demographic divide. People are noticing the American dollar does not
Speaker 3: appear to go as far as it once did post
Speaker 3: pandemic or during the pandemic. And everybody likes to say
Speaker 3: post pandemic, but it's still happening.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the plan deemnic Now I'm just joking. I'm just joking.
Speaker 3: I mean, but there is a conspiracy afoot. I would
Speaker 3: argue there is a plan because when supply chains were decimated,
Speaker 3: I'm using that word correctly. When when supply chains went sideways,
Speaker 3: cost of goods and services, products, whatever, naturally arose. However,
Speaker 3: as those supply chains recovered, some boffins and some sharks
Speaker 3: in the boardrooms realized they didn't have to bring the
Speaker 3: prices back down. Not right yet, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: If we've normalized paying you know, five dollars for something
Speaker 3: that was three dollars that maybe we'll just keep going
Speaker 3: until someone says something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and even when they do, what are they gonna do?
Speaker 2: Not eat a whopper? Come on, come on? Did you
Speaker 2: hear Morgan Spurlock, the guy who made Supersize Me just
Speaker 2: passed away from cancer. I think today as we're recording this,
Speaker 2: or yesterday.
Speaker 3: He passed away. I thought he passed away earlier.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, maybe I just read about it today.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Supersized Me guy unfortunately has passed away, and
Speaker 3: later later investigations would conclude that it was it was cancer,
Speaker 3: possibly due to some lifestyle choices he had made that
Speaker 3: were not the focus of Supersize Me.
Speaker 2: I didn't know that. I just heard that he passed
Speaker 2: away from cancer, though.
Speaker 3: And any number of things can cause cancer. You know
Speaker 3: what can't cause cancer? Sling shots?
Speaker 2: You say that, I say that, maybe I haven't.
Speaker 3: Maybe I'm not read onto the full capacity slingshot technology.
Speaker 2: What if you're singing lead or mercury ball bearings. I'm
Speaker 2: saying maybe they only cause cancer, but not to you
Speaker 2: the user.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. You should at least wear gloves.
Speaker 3: So we're talking about this price, height and this ongoing inflation,
Speaker 3: which does seem to be manufactured and not necessarily an
Speaker 3: end result of the hard math of transit. What we
Speaker 3: saw is a recent survey conducted by an outfit called
Speaker 3: lending Tree, and they found that seventy eight percent of
Speaker 3: consumers have clocked how expensive fast food meals have become.
Speaker 3: The day of the dollar menu appears long gone, and
Speaker 3: now fast food is a luxury purchase. This is especially
Speaker 3: true amidst American residents who make less than thirty grand
Speaker 3: a year, people with young children, and folks that we
Speaker 3: would call generation Z. Finding show about three out of
Speaker 3: four Americans typically eat fast food around once a week,
Speaker 3: but sixty two percent of people that were asked about
Speaker 3: it said obviously not I'm just gonna cook at home now,
Speaker 3: or go to the mom and pop place. You know
Speaker 3: what I mean, Go to your local go to your
Speaker 3: local restaurant, and you can feed a family of four
Speaker 3: for far less, apparently than one could at your McDonald's
Speaker 3: or your Burger King. I don't know, man, I don't
Speaker 3: know how long people are going to keep buying whoppers forever.
Speaker 2: Come on, man, don't believe the hype? Well, what is this?
Speaker 2: Lending Tree out there talking to people and getting opinions.
Speaker 2: Our Burger king will live forever. I hope I see
Speaker 2: again when this gets analyzed by AI and then translated
Speaker 2: into German. Nobody's gonna understand that I'm being sarcastic, but
Speaker 2: that's what it's supposed to be.
Speaker 3: They will now because we've explicitly said so. We we've
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Speaker 3: for a word from our sponsors, and maybe we travel
Speaker 3: to South Dakota. What do you think?
Speaker 2: I guess. So, yeah, it's gonna be somber when we
Speaker 2: get back, but not too bad. Actually yeah, pretty bad.
Speaker 2: So just hold on to your horses.
Speaker 3: No. Nine one one, This crunch trap is five dollars.
Speaker 2: All right, We'll be right back, and we've returned and
Speaker 2: we are going to Turner County, a very small town there.
Speaker 2: The former mayor of that town is currently charged with
Speaker 2: three counts of first degree murder, which you know is
Speaker 2: a headline that catches our eyes for sure. There's a
Speaker 2: lot going on with this story that we do not
Speaker 2: have the details of, but we can give you at
Speaker 2: least a little bit. Here's some reporting coming out of
Speaker 2: the Argus Leader A R G U. S L E
Speaker 2: A D E.
Speaker 3: ER.
Speaker 2: It's written by Trevor Mitchell and here's the title. Former
Speaker 2: Centerville mayor charged with triple murder in Turner County. This
Speaker 2: is this just happened. So on the night of Monday,
Speaker 2: the twenty seventh of May, this person was apparently involved
Speaker 2: in some kind of shooting that killed three people. He
Speaker 2: was booked into the local jail there on Tuesday morning
Speaker 2: in connection with these shootings. And it's very strange. Let's
Speaker 2: go down here. There's a person named Zach Francis who
Speaker 2: says that his brother had been shot and killed by
Speaker 2: a man with a shotgun at that the shooter had
Speaker 2: returned to his home. Documents say that after some time,
Speaker 2: Franke has told the dispatcher that he himself had been
Speaker 2: shot and he eventually stopped speaking with that nine to
Speaker 2: one one operator. And that's when this person, this former mayor,
Speaker 2: his name is j. Austrom OSTRM happens to be sixty
Speaker 2: four years old. He was seen leaving the home and
Speaker 2: was identified at the scene of the shooting. Apparently, this
Speaker 2: guy appeared to be intoxicated, at least according to some
Speaker 2: of the local reporting there, or some of the witnesses
Speaker 2: who were there, and somebody who's getting leaked information, it appears,
Speaker 2: but he ignored the commands to stop, to put down
Speaker 2: whatever he had in his hands to lay on the ground.
Speaker 2: He was apparently bleeding from his left hand, and you
Speaker 2: could smell the alcohol on him. According to officers who
Speaker 2: first responded there, he had a handgun and an ar
Speaker 2: style rifle in his possession. He also had shotgun shell
Speaker 2: casings and a spent rifle casing just on his person
Speaker 2: when he was stopped by these officers. When those officers
Speaker 2: then went into the home where this guy had just left,
Speaker 2: they found three dead men, Zach Frankes, the person who
Speaker 2: had called nine to one one to report this happening,
Speaker 2: Paul Francis, who is twenty six, and Timothy Richmond, who
Speaker 2: was thirty five.
Speaker 3: And of course, it's often easy for people to read
Speaker 3: a story and dismiss it when they hear alcohol mentioned, right, like,
Speaker 3: this guy got drunk and shot three people. However, we
Speaker 3: have a context as to what appears to have informed
Speaker 3: the former mayor's actions and heads up, folks, it is
Speaker 3: an unpleasant thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So these are neighbors, these three younger guys
Speaker 2: and then this older guy who's accused of killing them.
Speaker 2: According to the story, Jay Oustrom was told by his
Speaker 2: spouse that she was hanging out having some alcohol with
Speaker 2: one of the one of the three guys in that
Speaker 2: house that is now dead. And according to the story,
Speaker 2: this person, Paul Francis, forcibly kissed her and exposed his
Speaker 2: genitalia to her, and she then told her husband about it,
Speaker 2: Jay Oustrom, and Jay went raging out of the house.
Speaker 2: He didn't say anything about where he was going, what
Speaker 2: he was going to do. He did not leave armed,
Speaker 2: according to his wife, but she knew that he or
Speaker 2: she was aware at least that he had many weapons
Speaker 2: inside the home and possibly inside his vehicle. So it
Speaker 2: is possible that he went directly to his vehicle, got
Speaker 2: his weapons, and then charged over to that house and
Speaker 2: murdered three people.
Speaker 3: And apparently there are live reports of the shooting or
Speaker 3: reports on file You can read this in affidavits reported
Speaker 3: by Sioux Falls Live, wherein people called it a guy
Speaker 3: called in and said, yes, I have been shot. That
Speaker 3: is Francus, and Francus most likely died on the phone
Speaker 3: or at least lost the ability to speak. We know
Speaker 3: that there is, as you said, blood on his left hand.
Speaker 3: I appreciate the note about being charged with but not convicted,
Speaker 3: of killing these three pretty young people. We also apparently
Speaker 3: have a question about the nature of former Mayor Richmond's
Speaker 3: relationship to the Franks brothers. Do they just live in
Speaker 3: the same area or to what degree did they interact?
Speaker 2: I don't know. Do you have more info?
Speaker 3: So I'm looking at a couple of different stories. Daily
Speaker 3: Beast has an article by Josh Fiallo. As we mentioned,
Speaker 3: Sioux Falls Live has some information on this. It's not
Speaker 3: quite clear, but we can say one thing for sure. Centerville,
Speaker 3: South Dakota is not the biggest town in the United States.
Speaker 2: No, it's pretty tiny.
Speaker 3: Less than a thousand people.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, less than a thousand people, Smaller even than
Speaker 2: I knew. So it should be noted that this person
Speaker 2: in Jay Austrom, who is accused of doing this stuff,
Speaker 2: is a He's a former sheriff's office investigator. He was
Speaker 2: a deputy. I guess according to Argus Leader archives, I
Speaker 2: don't know. He's done a lot of stuff for that
Speaker 2: small town. He assisted in a trial in twenty ten
Speaker 2: of this guy named Ethan Johns who was convicted of
Speaker 2: killing a sheriff's deputy there. He also apparently was involved
Speaker 2: in some kind of sexual harassment lawsuit where it was
Speaker 2: a lawsuit levied against him, and that's while he was mayor.
Speaker 2: I guess the stuff that happened while he was mayor.
Speaker 2: I don't know. This one just stuck out to me
Speaker 2: because it is somebody really high up that appears to
Speaker 2: have gotten super upset about something and then went off
Speaker 2: the handle and chose murder. I don't know it does
Speaker 2: I guess it worries me. As you said, Ben, somebody
Speaker 2: might dismiss this completely. Oh, somebody was drinking and they
Speaker 2: weren't thinking or whatever. But somebody that has that I
Speaker 2: don't know, that thing in them that's willing to go
Speaker 2: and kill somebody over something horrible, right like if that
Speaker 2: account is true from his wife, is horrible, but just
Speaker 2: willing to kill somebody that's.
Speaker 3: Also the sexual harassment case. For further context, that was
Speaker 3: a two year legal battle, and the person filing the
Speaker 3: sexual harassment lawsuit was the former chief of police.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: So there appears to be again quite a bit to
Speaker 3: this story, and we can only imagine that there will
Speaker 3: be more forthcoming as court cases proceed. Whatever the circumstances,
Speaker 3: they cannot replace the lives of the three young men
Speaker 3: who were murdered, because this is what we will call
Speaker 3: extra judicial killing. We also have to wonder with this
Speaker 3: guy's experience, did he feel correct in taking what he
Speaker 3: saw his vigilanti action, you know what I mean? Because
Speaker 3: of his time and law enforcement.
Speaker 2: Who's to say what's going through his mind? I would
Speaker 2: quick correction here if I said it incorrectly or confusingly.
Speaker 2: The incident that allegedly occurred between this person who's accused
Speaker 2: and the neighbor happened on the twenty third of May,
Speaker 2: and then this shooting occurred on Monday, the twenty seventh
Speaker 2: of May, so there was some time there, which maybe
Speaker 2: is why it's considered first degree or why he's charged
Speaker 2: with first degree murder, because it does seem like if
Speaker 2: that's the inciting incident, he had several days to either
Speaker 2: plan or you know, think about his actions before taking them. Well, Ben,
Speaker 2: I don't have much more on this one. It's not
Speaker 2: even really one to keep an eye on. I think
Speaker 2: it's just an anomaly and a strange thing. Some of
Speaker 2: these true crime stories are just kind of like that,
Speaker 2: just weird. If you don't mind, I'd just like to
Speaker 2: point this out because it's something we've talked about before
Speaker 2: on the pass as a completely separate story. This is
Speaker 2: regarding MH three seventy. That's that Malaysian Airlines flight that
Speaker 2: went missing and has been sought since twenty fourteen. Still
Speaker 2: no wreckage recovered, no sign of the two hundred and
Speaker 2: thirty nine people who went down with it. There's some
Speaker 2: new attempts to find the wreckage wherever it went, and
Speaker 2: it has to do with explosions, which is kind of cool.
Speaker 2: And some of the underground micro phones that we've discussed
Speaker 2: in the past that are just strown about in the
Speaker 2: ocean that can listen to all sorts of things. One
Speaker 2: of the things they're good at hearing are large explosions,
Speaker 2: right listening for nuclear weapons that have been tested underneath
Speaker 2: the sea, which is something the US used to like
Speaker 2: to do quite a lot near a toolls especially. They're
Speaker 2: going to use this technology to attempt to basically recreate
Speaker 2: I think, at least if I'm reading this correctly, they
Speaker 2: want to recreate the sound of this plane hitting the
Speaker 2: water and or get as close as they can of
Speaker 2: like hearing basically with those microphones what it would sound like,
Speaker 2: and then also taking into account everything that's been recorded
Speaker 2: right around the time that it crashed, and try to
Speaker 2: use the sound to pinpoint where it actually entered the water,
Speaker 2: because that's still an unknown right now. And they're recommending
Speaker 2: that authorities conduct what they're calling controlled underwater explosions, which
Speaker 2: is really I don't it's an interesting thing.
Speaker 3: It's important thing. It would bring a lot of closure
Speaker 3: to hundreds of families. And we have an episode coming
Speaker 3: out later this year which is an update on the
Speaker 3: planes that have disappeared. We've been pushing this one for
Speaker 3: a while because, like many people, we are hoping that
Speaker 3: there will be good news. You know, when we do
Speaker 3: this episode, we it would make our evening for there
Speaker 3: to be a plane mystery solved such that we can
Speaker 3: remove it from our episode. But the ocean is big,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, there's it's no surprise that
Speaker 3: things get lost. Conspiracies proliferate for a reason. We do
Speaker 3: know that assassination as plane crash has been deployed in
Speaker 3: the past. That is a true story. Look up what
Speaker 3: was his name, Matt Dagg.
Speaker 2: That's the one.
Speaker 3: Definitely assassinated via plane crash. And in this case, you know,
Speaker 3: it might surprise some of us tonight to learn that
Speaker 3: even after a story fades from the headlines, the research
Speaker 3: and the investigation continues. So I'm really glad you brought
Speaker 3: this story up tonight. We're hoping this hydrophone technology, right,
Speaker 3: is that what it's called. We're hoping this hydrophone technology
Speaker 3: can at least help people get a fix on where
Speaker 3: the breadcrumbs of the crash begin.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and again it is just theoretical. Now, it's just
Speaker 2: like a recommendation. The thought is just using signal strength
Speaker 2: at the various locations. If a big splash occurred in
Speaker 2: one area, you could test, Hey, there's certain level, like
Speaker 2: very precise level of decibels that this one microphone picked
Speaker 2: it up, and it's x kilometers away from where the
Speaker 2: explosion occurred, right, and then you've got another one that
Speaker 2: same explosion measured at why decibels when the plane hit
Speaker 2: the water so or when the explosion occurred, I guess
Speaker 2: in this test, So you really could pinpoint if you
Speaker 2: had three or more. Potentially if you got all of
Speaker 2: those numbers correct with the data of whatever the splash
Speaker 2: and explosion sound when this plane went down, you could
Speaker 2: you could try and find it. Yeah, exactly in the
Speaker 2: same way you use the you know, a GPS signal
Speaker 2: that's going to various towers or to various satellites.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Maybe a layman way to think of this would be,
Speaker 3: all right, the old concept of a needle in a haystack, right,
Speaker 3: we think of that in English because it's very difficult
Speaker 3: to find a needle in a ginormous haystack.
Speaker 2: Never tried, actually, but I would.
Speaker 3: Yeah, even something that can help you find just the
Speaker 3: quadrant of the haystack it's in this twenty percent, or
Speaker 3: it's even in this fifty percent of the haystack, that
Speaker 3: will fundamentally change the nature of the investigation. And while
Speaker 3: it can seem hopeless, it is important to try.
Speaker 2: I think so too. So let's keep an eye on that.
Speaker 2: It probably won't happen because it's going to be expensive
Speaker 2: I'm sure, and everybody's just like, well that was a
Speaker 2: while ago, guys, which is an unfortunate thing for the
Speaker 2: families of the two hundred and thirty nine people that
Speaker 2: are still missing and unaccounted for. Well, hey, that's a
Speaker 2: bit of a downer, but we will be right back
Speaker 2: with more strange news. After a word from our sponsor.
Speaker 3: We take you to Seoul, South Korea. What's that up
Speaker 3: there in the clouds? Is it a bird? Is it
Speaker 3: a blade? No, it's a balloon. What's in the balloon?
Speaker 3: This takes us to one of our final stories for
Speaker 3: this evening's program. The Democratic People's Republic of Korea DPRK,
Speaker 3: street named North Korea, has been accused of sending balloons
Speaker 3: carrying poop across the border across the DMZ into South Korea. First, what, second? Why?
Speaker 3: These are some of the questions.
Speaker 2: I think those are the primary questions. Well, the next
Speaker 2: one for me is what were they contained within? Was
Speaker 2: it just like a plastic bag or was it.
Speaker 3: It also wasn't just poop, there were cigarette butts, miscellaneous trash.
Speaker 3: Let's go to the Guardian and the New York Times,
Speaker 3: So shout out to Justin McCurry writing for The Guardian
Speaker 3: based out of Tokyo, who says South Korea has warned
Speaker 3: residents living near the border to be on alert, and
Speaker 3: the South Korean government, the Republic of Korea r OK,
Speaker 3: has accused North Korea of sindy balloons containing feces and
Speaker 3: trash into South Korea, and if you look back you
Speaker 3: can find this with some cursory digging. The South Korean
Speaker 3: military just this past Wednesday released photographs of what appeared
Speaker 3: to be to answer your question, Matt, plastic bags tethered
Speaker 3: to balloons, just hanging down like a gondola from a
Speaker 3: hot air balloon, and there was trash around these. Somebody
Speaker 3: wrote the word excrement on one of the bags that
Speaker 3: had come down to earth, just to drive the point home.
Speaker 3: According to the Yadhap Dews agency in South Korea military sources,
Speaker 3: more than one hundred and fifty of these balloons made
Speaker 3: their way south. Some were still in the air, some
Speaker 3: had traveled very long distances, reaching southeastern provinces of the peninsula.
Speaker 3: They had plastic bottles in their batteries, shoes and or
Speaker 3: parts of shoes, parts of shoes, not the whole shoe,
Speaker 3: and then manure woah.
Speaker 2: Hight soil. I can really identify with this. I've been
Speaker 2: leaning out cat litter for the past week or so,
Speaker 2: and just the sensation of gathering poop into a bag
Speaker 2: that I did not but probably should have labeled feces,
Speaker 2: just doing that over and over again, and then hauling
Speaker 2: that bag down to another bag so that it can
Speaker 2: get out of my house and not smell like that anymore.
Speaker 3: And they're wondering, wading, who really is in charge of
Speaker 3: this tidy government of my home? Yeah, I'm pretty sure
Speaker 3: that cat's not take it out your poop.
Speaker 2: No, it's not. And it really doesn't like it when
Speaker 2: I pet it, unless it's tired. Then it's like, all right,
Speaker 2: we're cool.
Speaker 3: It takes time. Yeah, yeah, it's true. Man, Like, okay,
Speaker 3: So imagine the panic I think it was. It was
Speaker 3: not too long ago.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: I was off on a thing recording remotely, and we
Speaker 3: were recording the week that the Chinese government sent some
Speaker 3: altitude surveillance balloons into US airspace. And if we think
Speaker 3: about that in that context, this story seems way less funny.
Speaker 3: Right at first, It's like at nineteen eighties Revenge of
Speaker 3: the Nerds comic book kind of prank, like, we'll show them,
Speaker 3: We'll send poop balloons. What a what a rip. But now,
Speaker 3: if you're the South Korean military and you are pretty
Speaker 3: much waiting for a possible attack, full scale kinetic war
Speaker 3: from the northern part of the peninsula, then when you
Speaker 3: see stuff you cannot identify in the air, your first
Speaker 3: assumption has to be it is a weapon.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you know what we need? Oh god, I
Speaker 2: wish we had this some kind of slingshot sharpshooter that
Speaker 2: you to hang out. Yeah. Yeah, So you're you're not
Speaker 2: getting the retort of firing a weapon in that very
Speaker 2: you know, contentious area, but you just, you know, just
Speaker 2: a little funk.
Speaker 3: And keep it clean too. Like he's clearly we'll make
Speaker 3: him a tourist. He's clearly not working with the South
Speaker 3: Korean military. He's just a guy, Yeah who got a
Speaker 3: deal on ball bearings.
Speaker 2: Just give him a porch, that's all he needs.
Speaker 3: Give him a porch at a yard to tell people
Speaker 3: to stay off of. And I think I think we've
Speaker 3: got our candidate. I think we got our operator. Yeah.
Speaker 3: The military, though, they did freak out because all they
Speaker 3: see over the DMZ one of the most hotly contested
Speaker 3: parts of the world as we know it. All they
Speaker 3: see is small unidentified objects, which you know, sadly they're
Speaker 3: not UFOs. I think it would be funnier if aliens
Speaker 3: were real and they were just carrying poop around the
Speaker 3: world and no one knew why.
Speaker 2: They're just sending their their feces to Earth.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're not even like saving the poop, they're just
Speaker 3: moving it around to different places.
Speaker 2: Imagine. Okay, so there's this huge UFO that's sited by
Speaker 2: everyone in London. Everybody. Oh, Alexi says, what makes you
Speaker 2: think the aliens poop?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, that's a good note, Doc.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if I've learned anything in this life, it's that
Speaker 2: everybody poops. You know. That's like probably if.
Speaker 3: They don't, they're an android exactly.
Speaker 2: That's lifeless and number one for me. Okay, but listen,
Speaker 2: there's this huge UFO. It's coming through the atmosphere. Everybody
Speaker 2: in London's freaking out. Everybody's got footage of it. It's
Speaker 2: going on TikTok, it's going everywhere. It's wide. This thing
Speaker 2: flies through and then lands in the Thames or the
Speaker 2: Thames or however you say that river and the military's
Speaker 2: out there, everybody's surrounding it. They're ready to just whatever
Speaker 2: comes out of this thing, we're gonna fight against it.
Speaker 2: And the hatch just goes and it's just alien poop.
Speaker 3: Which would be amazing. We would keep it, uh, like
Speaker 3: the civilization would be super into it. Also, talking with
Speaker 3: Doc in the chat here, the question is if aliens
Speaker 3: maybe they excreet something that they think of as poop
Speaker 3: and humans think of it as a massively precious resource,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, likeum yeah, unobtainingum the ultimate mcguffin.
Speaker 3: What if it's something like cobalt or what if they
Speaker 3: just what if they poop those over somehow, those overpriced
Speaker 3: scented Yankee candles that are like unreasonably twenty five dollars
Speaker 3: or eighteen dollars at the store. I would steal that poop.
Speaker 2: Like in various cents plas.
Speaker 3: Yeah, different sense, oh maze, And the aliens don't like
Speaker 3: them because to them it smells like poop. But to us,
Speaker 3: we're like, ah, lavender.
Speaker 2: Tight, we set this on fire, dude.
Speaker 3: Let me set this on fire.
Speaker 2: Well, back to.
Speaker 3: The Korean Peninsula, the South Korean government deployed biological chemical
Speaker 3: warfare response teams, explosive response teams. Imagine if you have
Speaker 3: that level of training and you have to go find
Speaker 3: the poop balloon, and because of your training, because the
Speaker 3: hot war could pop off, you have to pretend it's
Speaker 3: not hilarious and you have to say, Okay, we got
Speaker 3: to run through the checks. That's clearly a balloon of manure.
Speaker 3: But let's send out the robot and see if the
Speaker 3: robot explodes. And then who draws the short straw to
Speaker 3: have to actually go up and take the bag of poop.
Speaker 3: This is so weird, man Like, what is the point?
Speaker 2: I really don't know. Is it a warning?
Speaker 3: We have one statement from Kim Kong Il, who is
Speaker 3: a defense vice minister in North Korea, who says this
Speaker 3: was who said that the DPRK is going to retaliate
Speaker 3: toward some propaganda war stuff by South Korea. So South
Speaker 3: Korea for a long time has been sending leaflets about
Speaker 3: like anti North Korean leaflets, thumb drives that allow people
Speaker 3: access to news stories or literature or ideologies that you
Speaker 3: couldn't normally access in North Korea, and so per the
Speaker 3: official North Korean News agency case NA, Kim Kong Ill
Speaker 3: said the following quote. Tit for tat action will also
Speaker 3: be taken against frequent scattering of leaflets and other rubbish
Speaker 3: near border areas. Mounds of waste paper and filth will
Speaker 3: soon be scattered over the border areas and the interior
Speaker 3: of the ROK. Again that South Korea and it will
Speaker 3: directly experience how much effort is required to remove them.
Speaker 3: Kim so there. I think the idea is without escalating
Speaker 3: toward that war that no one really wants except for
Speaker 3: defense industries. I think the idea is, Hey, we're going
Speaker 3: to show you what it's like to have to deal
Speaker 3: with this, right, so now we're sending a bunch of balloons,
Speaker 3: just like the stuff you sent, and just like the
Speaker 3: stuff you sent, our balloons transport trash. Because North Korea
Speaker 3: is the best.
Speaker 2: I think they solved it. I think that's it unless
Speaker 2: it's coming from further north. What if it's coming from
Speaker 2: I don't know, the city in China just across the
Speaker 2: border of North Korea and they're playing, they're playing both.
Speaker 2: They're just like, ah, let's send this over there. They'll
Speaker 2: both blame each other. It'll be a hilarious.
Speaker 3: Oh gosh. And if it's a if it's a big
Speaker 3: enough Chinese city, they're they're thinking, we got to get
Speaker 3: rid of this poop somehow, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Let's just we've got all these balloons. We've got deal
Speaker 2: on the balloons.
Speaker 3: We keep making poop. You know. Yeah, we put out
Speaker 3: a notice, we asked people to stop pooping, but they
Speaker 3: keep going. So we've got to do something.
Speaker 2: There's a clear answer here. I'm just I'm not seen
Speaker 2: it yet.
Speaker 3: Point said, Ah, geez, we need top men on this one. Also, also,
Speaker 3: it makes me think the idea here is clearly propaganda.
Speaker 3: Right is that seem to say? So they're not trying
Speaker 3: to upset the grand balance of the armistices?
Speaker 2: I don't think so. I don't know. Wasn't there a
Speaker 2: very recent missile failure or a flight test that North
Speaker 2: Koreo just conducted where they were going to send it
Speaker 2: was either a satellite or another one of those. It
Speaker 2: was a test of a rocket and it failed pretty
Speaker 2: pretty horribly.
Speaker 3: Yes, thank goodness, I'm.
Speaker 2: Sure they get panned, if you know. I don't know
Speaker 2: if there's a DMZ like newspaper or something ben or
Speaker 2: just something where it's just like they tease each other
Speaker 2: from the other sides like ha ha ha, rocket failed,
Speaker 2: great job, and there's like oh yeah, oh yeah, Well you.
Speaker 3: Know what doesn't fail, our poop balloon Armada, which it
Speaker 3: will be deployed. Whoe betide you for mocking our attempts
Speaker 3: at ICBMs. It's true. There's a larger context too, because
Speaker 3: we mentioned it slightly in a previous recording. Uncle Ji
Speaker 3: and Uncle Vlad did have a very public pinky swear
Speaker 3: recently creating a troubling partnership of convenience or escalating and
Speaker 3: troubling partnership of convenience between China and Russia. And now
Speaker 3: this poop balloon stuff comes on the heels of an
Speaker 3: earlier report where Vladimir Putin and Kim Jong un, the
Speaker 3: current leader of North Korea, agreed to a pretty troubling
Speaker 3: deal or a deal that has NATO and the West
Speaker 3: kind of upset because the problem is, all right, North
Speaker 3: Korea has a nuke, Right, they have nuclear capability in
Speaker 3: a weaponized fashion. What they don't have is the other
Speaker 3: side of the equation, which is getting the nuke to
Speaker 3: the place they want to hit. They don't have that yet, right,
Speaker 3: they have the engine, but they don't have the car,
Speaker 3: and if they make a deal with Russia, Russia could
Speaker 3: give them ICBM or reliable ICBM. I mean, North Korea's
Speaker 3: previous designs are already old Soviet tech. So the United
Speaker 3: States is currently quite concerned about the possibility of someone
Speaker 3: giving North Korea this car such that it could drive
Speaker 3: to the West coast of the United States. It's a
Speaker 3: real concern. But also also man, how much of it
Speaker 3: is warmongering on both sides, Like if you want more
Speaker 3: funding for the Eastern Theater, you say that a nuclear
Speaker 3: response is eminent, you know, or not even a response,
Speaker 3: a nuclear action is imminent, and the wallet just opens
Speaker 3: up and everybody votes in your favor.
Speaker 2: Very true.
Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe it's also just humans are humans.
Speaker 3: Maybe the poop bags are just a fun prank.
Speaker 2: Ben, you said something pretty hilarious. I put it together.
Speaker 2: I don't know if anybody else did those listening You're
Speaker 2: talking about poop on the heels of Putin, which to
Speaker 2: me is really funny. Thank you, thanks, because there's something
Speaker 2: about your Putin. But then poop, I don't know that
Speaker 2: it's on your heels. This seems messy.
Speaker 3: Oh, North Korea and Putin are definitely. North Korea is
Speaker 3: definitely Puutin on the ritz. And I don't know how
Speaker 3: much more there is to this story, but we do
Speaker 3: know that in the larger context, the government of China
Speaker 3: and the government of North Korea have a rare, a
Speaker 3: rare disagreement regarding nuclear weapons, because China is asking to
Speaker 3: pump their breaks and they're saying all gas, no breaks,
Speaker 3: poop in the balloons. You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do know what you mean.
Speaker 3: Great, that's why we hang out. That's how that's how Matt,
Speaker 3: Doc and I talk when we're off air. We have
Speaker 3: so much stuff. We didn't get to this evening. We didn't.
Speaker 3: We didn't really get the chance to talk about Papua
Speaker 3: New Guinea. There's a failed coup on the African continent
Speaker 3: that's not getting a lot of Western press. We have
Speaker 3: cop city stories we have to cover. The new Windows
Speaker 3: AI is going to record everything you do on your
Speaker 3: personal computer.
Speaker 2: What's so wrong, sweet man?
Speaker 3: Nice?
Speaker 2: Always forget what I've been doing on my computer seven
Speaker 2: months ago?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Good, No, we can finally have a snap shot.
Speaker 3: Now I can finally confirm that I wanted to buy
Speaker 3: but did not in fact buy those construction boots with toes.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Thank goodness, man, because I forgot if you did that
Speaker 2: or not. What was I doing on November fourteenth, twenty
Speaker 2: twenty three. Oh it says here. Yeah, I opened my
Speaker 2: notes app I typed. Oh it's got an entire log
Speaker 2: of everything I typed into my notes app.
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sure it's gold.
Speaker 2: Oh boy, that was a bad day. Jeez. Oh man,
Speaker 2: that was a Tuesday. We were getting ready for strange news. Oh,
Speaker 2: it's got all of our search history has been fantastic.
Speaker 3: I stick by what I searched.
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