1 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: The focus is on this week and this week only. 2 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: Welcome Bird Gang. On today's show, Danny Surrek joins me. 3 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: Last game before the bye week, an important game, a 4 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: tough game two despite the Jets record one at Aaron 5 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: Rodgers and two the Jets defense is no joke. Also, 6 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: we talked Baron Browning, Blake Gillickin, and Dante Stills, who, 7 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: by the way, leads the team in secs. It's Cardinals 8 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: Cover two, Episode eight sixteen, and it starts now. 9 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two. 10 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: Boda Baker, What Heart? What rent? This guy's unbelievable. 11 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 2: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of 12 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcast. Visit Azycardinals 13 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 2: dot com slash podcast. 14 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: He's at the ten half of five. He's it again, 15 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: so more hurry magic. 16 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 2: Whow Here's Craig Grioler. 17 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: So I caved in on Wednesday, Danny and I actually 18 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: broke out the jacket ward at practice on Wednesday because 19 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,839 Speaker 1: it wasn't so much that it was in the low sixties, 20 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 1: but it was windy, So yeah, I was. I broke 21 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: out the jacket night much like everyone else but I 22 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: just finally did it as well. 23 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was a little cold in the shade watching practice. 24 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 1: One thing, if you're standing in the sun. But where 25 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: we are situated during the open portion of practice, we're 26 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: in the shade. Which is great when it's one hundred 27 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: and ten degrees out, but when it's sixty sixty one, Yeah, 28 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: things become a little bit chilly in the shade. 29 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 3: We'll take it over a really brutal winter, that is true. 30 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: Don't have to shovel sunshine. That's what they always say 31 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: when you come to Arizona. All right, what did we 32 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: see during the open portion of practice on Wednesday, Well, 33 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: let's just get out of the way. We did not 34 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: see Darius Robinson. Once again. I don't think you're going 35 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: to see him until after the bye week. I mentioned 36 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: that last week at this time here on card covered too. 37 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: What was good, though, to see was Sean Murphy bunting 38 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: on the practice field. He had been in active the 39 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: last two weeks because of a neck injury, and yeah, 40 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: that secondary has been playing well, but it's that old 41 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: adage in the NFL you can never have enough corners 42 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: good corners. 43 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 3: Getting Murphy bunting back would be good for this defense 44 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,519 Speaker 3: and having bodies. Max Melton and Starling Thomas have looked 45 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 3: very good though all season, but really those last two 46 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 3: weeks of being those top two corners. In terms of 47 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:32,839 Speaker 3: Darius Robinson your point of seeing him after the bye week, 48 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 3: I would agree. In terms of practice, I would still 49 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 3: expect it to take a couple of weeks of practice 50 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 3: before Robinson is able to be active in a game, 51 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 3: and even if he is active, it will likely be 52 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 3: in a limited role just because he hasn't played football. 53 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 3: This isn't a six eight year veteran who has all 54 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 3: the reps and experience under his belt. This is a 55 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 3: rookie who has lost a lot of time playing football 56 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 3: because of an unfortunate injury in the unfortunate timing of 57 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 3: that calf injury. So I would expect it to be 58 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 3: possibly even a few weeks after Robinson starts practicing before 59 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,679 Speaker 3: we see him on the field on a game day. 60 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: It's a good point. We haven't seen Darius do anything 61 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: since August as far as football activity. So to your point, 62 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: all right, he comes whenever he practices, even if they're 63 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 1: on the practice field next week during the bye week, 64 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: if it's for a day or two. It's going to 65 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: take a couple of weeks, so you may maybe not 66 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:32,399 Speaker 1: that first game against the Seahawks, maybe at Minnesota, more 67 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: likely maybe the home game against the Seahawks. Now you're 68 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: talking about December though, and again we're all anxious. We're 69 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:44,119 Speaker 1: all excited, probably some more than others m iz coou 70 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: but the fact that he was such a standout during 71 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: training camp and those ten preseason steps in which we 72 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: saw him against the Denver Broncos, So there is an 73 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: excitement and there's also a need along that defensive line 74 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: and front seven. But as we've always said, it's the 75 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: long term play with a number one draft pick versus 76 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: a short term play. Trying to get him back asap. 77 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 3: With any player, calves can be tricky. It's it can 78 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 3: be difficult to grasp the severity when you're not a 79 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 3: professional athlete or around and have a better idea of 80 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 3: these can be tricky, and you don't want to put 81 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 3: Robinson in an instance where he's out there too soon, 82 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 3: and how do you know that doesn't trickle down and 83 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 3: become an achilles issue or something else. Like there's got 84 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 3: to be for the fact that Robinson hasn't even been practicing. 85 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 3: Something that's I don't want to say going on in 86 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 3: terms of a setback by any means, but just more 87 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 3: more cautiousness about that. And that's what's important when you're 88 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 3: talking long term for a player's health, for their longevity, 89 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 3: for not even just as a career, but as a 90 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 3: person as well. So I can understand why fans might 91 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 3: be anxious or antsy to get him out there. And 92 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 3: absolutely right, it's exciting what he brings. It's exciting to 93 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 3: have another body to a room that really needs the 94 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 3: body due to some other injuries. You don't want to 95 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 3: force it and you don't want to make matters worse 96 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 3: by doing that. 97 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 1: And here's the positive spin on things. During that three 98 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: week window in which Darius Robinson was able to practice, 99 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: we only saw him that one time. But if at 100 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: any point during those three weeks and the Cardinals thought 101 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: we were not going to see Darius Robinson on the 102 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: field this season, then he would have just remained on 103 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: ir The fact that they added him to the active roster. Yes, 104 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: he's been inactive, but they added him to that fifty 105 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: three man roster tells me and it should tell the 106 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: fans as well. That Yes, you will see Darius Robinson 107 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 1: at some point this season. It's better to get him 108 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: a handful of games than no games at all here 109 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 1: as a rookie, especially again the long term play with 110 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: someone who you hope and believe can be a force 111 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 1: along that defensive line. 112 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 3: Absolutely, it's just going to take some time, clearly, just 113 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 3: got to be patient. 114 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: Now. On the flip side, when you welcome in a 115 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: brand new player who has been on the field this 116 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: entire season, I eat Baron Browning, I would expect and 117 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 1: I would hope to see him on the field this week. 118 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: Limited role, whatever it might be, limited snaps, doesn't matter. 119 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: Maybe no pass situation, second and long, third and long. 120 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: But you brought him here for a reason. Why wait, 121 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: Why wait until after the bye week? Get him a 122 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 1: couple of snaps this week. Again, he's not going to 123 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 1: know the entire defensive playbook. But as they say, rush 124 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: the passer, it's a straight line to the quarterback. Go 125 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: get Aaron Rodgers. 126 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 3: Craig. We've talked about though, that's not what's ass of 127 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 3: these pass rushers. No, it's not always that simple. 128 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: With the limited snaps you can because you're right, because 129 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 1: that's a good point. There's a reason why it's Baron 130 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: Browning versus someone else added to this team as far 131 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: as outside linebacker is concerned, because they want someone who 132 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: can do everything yet at the same time, until he 133 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: gets up to speed, there's no reason why he can't 134 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: eight times twelve times on third down, straight line, go 135 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: get Aaron Ruschers. 136 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 3: Really just a little clarification there. And Browning is in 137 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 3: football shape. He's been playing with the Broncos. The Cardinals 138 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 3: traded a twenty twenty five sixth round pick for Brownie 139 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 3: right before the trade deadline, and this is a move 140 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 3: that makes sense. The Cardinals like the youth and the 141 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 3: depth that they are building, so I understand wanting to 142 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 3: keep those higher draft picks. Okay, so that's gonna change 143 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 3: the type of player you're gonna go after. And pass 144 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 3: rush has been in neat Yes, the Cardinals defense is 145 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 3: coming off a good game against the Bears where they 146 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 3: were generating pass rush, albeit against a pretty banged up 147 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 3: Chicago offensive line. They still need bodies the way they 148 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 3: like to do rotation if you want to continue to 149 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 3: generate pressure. When you're talking about all the things that 150 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 3: are asked about those pass rushers, and not just bile 151 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 3: rushing and getting to the quarterback. Brownie makes sense in 152 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 3: terms of his size and his bend and what he 153 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 3: brings defensive corner. Nick brought up his character when asked 154 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 3: about what he remembers from Brownie and going through the 155 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 3: combine and the draft process. A couple of years ago, 156 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 3: Browning was a teammate briefly with Paris Johnson junior at 157 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 3: Ohio State, and Johnson was talking about how he remembers 158 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 3: as a freshman going up against Browning in the bend 159 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 3: that he had. This is a fit, a player that 160 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 3: fits this scheme and this culture. 161 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: Here with the Cardinals, again, we talk about the person 162 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: that this team wants to bring in Manti asin Ford 163 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: on that front office, and then it becomes the player 164 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: and defensively, how do they fit in because it's not 165 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:41,599 Speaker 1: just an edge rusher. What we think an outside linebacker 166 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 1: typically is historically, go get the quarterback. Within this defense, 167 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: what Nick Rolis wants, what Jonathan Gannon wants, it's get 168 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: the quarterback, set the edge, stop the run, drop into coverage, 169 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: and there might be a handful of more things to do. 170 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: Considering what Zavin Collins has said, how many times or 171 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: how many different positions he's lined up across the defensive line. 172 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: Not everyone can do that. Again, I don't know the 173 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: skill set of everyone else and all the names that 174 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 1: are out there, but the fact that this person, Baron Browning, 175 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: was the one that they quote unquote selected and said 176 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 1: we want him now, You've got to trust in the 177 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 1: front office and the coaching staff that, all right, this 178 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: is the move that was made. Maybe it's not the 179 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: big name or the big splash, but it's someone that 180 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 1: they believe can really be a contributor here this season 181 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: and we'll figure out what the offseason and next season 182 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:32,319 Speaker 1: brings as far as you keep him or look for 183 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: someone else. 184 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 3: I appreciate the fact that this move in particular was made, 185 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 3: or really any move, because that says that general MANAGERMANI 186 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 3: awsome Fort really believes in this team. And if you're wondering, 187 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 3: how does that say that if you're bringing a player 188 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 3: in because this team has already shown that what they 189 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 3: can do and that you might just be a few 190 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 3: pieces of way to really be competitive. I'm not going 191 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 3: to sit here and say that Baron Browning is the 192 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 3: messing piece for the Cardinals to go and win the 193 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 3: Super Bowl. I do think that you could argue that 194 00:09:59,880 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 3: he could be a missing piece to help them win 195 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 3: the division, and that's the first step is winning the division, 196 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 3: securing a spot in the playoffs. And the fact that 197 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 3: not only a move was made, this move in particular 198 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 3: to address that one position room really shows that, Okay, 199 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 3: this team, this staff is all in. Not that you 200 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 3: would think otherwise, but you can tell that from this move. 201 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: There's the other underlying reason to make a move, or 202 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: the benefit of a move like this or on the 203 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: trade deadline, the message it sends to those players in 204 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,719 Speaker 1: the locker room. Mac Wilson Senior brought it up on Wednesday. 205 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: A move like that shows Mac and everyone else the confidence, 206 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 1: the belief that the front office has in those fifty 207 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: three players that yes, we are on the right track, 208 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:46,199 Speaker 1: we're doing what we're being coached to do, and yes 209 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:50,719 Speaker 1: there is a benefit to adding somebody. They didn't subtract anybody. 210 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: That's the other reason they added. Hey, we're five and four, 211 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,319 Speaker 1: we like where we're headed. It's not the end of 212 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: the road yet, but we can with this new in 213 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: a room that is needed. Mac brought that up as well. 214 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: Pass rush Kind of a bit of a need for us. 215 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: I'm paraphrasing, but he brought that up as well. So, yeah, 216 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: players speak, and this means something to everyone in that 217 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: locker room. 218 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 3: It would have been different had the Cardinals subtracted a player. 219 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 3: If you trade away a big time player for some 220 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 3: draft picks and really start looking ahead, and that's not 221 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 3: what the Cardinals did. That's not the position they're in 222 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 3: throughout this rebuild that they've been in last year and 223 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 3: up until this point this season. They're competitive and this 224 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 3: is a move that says we're going to continue to 225 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 3: be competitive and we're going to continue to keep our 226 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 3: foot on the gas. 227 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: Now, as far as the debut of Baron Browning, Aaron 228 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: Rodgers is not the easiest quarterback to sack. In fact, 229 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: he's not as mobile as a Caleb Williams or a 230 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. But what separates Aaron from everyone else that 231 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: the Cardinals have seen this season is what's between the 232 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: years his brain, how quickly he can process what he 233 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: sees and what defenses are thrown at him and then 234 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 1: get the ball out quick, throw it away. Yeah, he's 235 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 1: got some mobility to kind of buy a little time, 236 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: But I was looking at some of the numbers, and yeah, 237 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: he's been sacked a lot this season, but it's his 238 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: time to throw. Next Gen stats has him as the 239 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 1: third quickest time to throw this season. So I do 240 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 1: think as good as the defense was against Caleb Williams, 241 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:29,319 Speaker 1: a mobile quarterback, harassing him, showing him different looks, Danny, 242 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: I think, and it might just be me, I think 243 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: you're going to see a complete one to eighty. As 244 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: far as a defensive game plan against Aaron Rodgers, You're 245 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,959 Speaker 1: not gonna have so many exotic looks. You just might 246 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 1: have to keep things simple and rely on each individual 247 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 1: to win their one on one and hopefully Aaron Rodgers 248 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: makes a mistake, which he has this season. 249 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 3: Exotic looks are not going to get you as far 250 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 3: as they do with most other quarterbacks, as something Gannon 251 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 3: and defensive coordinator Nick Rolis talked about this week, having 252 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 3: both coached against Rogers at some point career. Nothing gets 253 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 3: past him. He's not fooled easily. He's going to quickly 254 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 3: see what the defense is showing him and make the 255 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 3: necessary changes on a dime. Rogers gets the ball out 256 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 3: so quickly that you don't in my opinion, you don't 257 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 3: want to necessarily rush five or six and use all 258 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 3: these blitzes and then leave the middle of the field 259 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 3: open for him, or leave space for his receivers, or 260 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 3: give him that opportunity, because he will get the ball 261 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 3: out quickly, he will get it out accurately. There are 262 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 3: times where Rogers needs to lead his receiver, and he 263 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 3: does that well. There are times where he doesn't and 264 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 3: he needs to lay it on a dime right where 265 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 3: they're going to be, and he does that very well. 266 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 3: Rogers is difficult to rattle. He's difficult to disrupt. That's 267 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 3: the task at hand, and you have to find a 268 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,439 Speaker 3: way to get it done. And on top of Rogers 269 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 3: is you've got some big name receivers DeVante Adams, Garrett Wilson, 270 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 3: two receivers who Gannon said are hard to stay connected 271 00:13:56,400 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 3: to and hard to reroute. And given Gannon's experience as 272 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 3: a secondary coach, that's tough. 273 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: I know what the Jets record is. They're three and six, 274 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: but they certainly beat up on the Texans on Thursday. Now, 275 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: if that game goes the other way, now, all of 276 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: a sudden, the Jets maybe are looking differently at this season, 277 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: but at three and six. There is a lot of 278 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: confidence amongst Jets players that they can turn this season around. 279 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: Last year the Rams Packers both started three and six 280 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: made the playoffs. So this game scares me in particularly 281 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers scares me because of how good he is. Again, 282 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: I know that the Jets were a mess earlier this 283 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: season in the offseason, but when you have a quarterback 284 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: like Aaron Rodgers, you always have a chance. And there's 285 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: just something about him, especially against the Cardinals, especially at 286 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: State Farm Stadium, seems to always bring out the best 287 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: in him. And that is why, yes, Cardinals should win 288 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: this game. They're a better football team with Aaron Rodgers 289 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: and now DeVante Adams that pairing with a stout Jets defense. 290 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: This is a tougher matchup than what I think a 291 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: lot of people anticipated, especially seeing the Jets pick up 292 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: that win against the Texans. 293 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 3: The Jets aren't a little bit of a desperation mode. 294 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 3: They've got to save their season and that's a scary 295 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 3: team to go against. And it's a scary team to 296 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 3: go against that's led against a four time MVP quarterback. Well, 297 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 3: you can never count out of a game. 298 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: We heard both Jonathan Gannon Kyle the Murray say that 299 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: three and seconds, three and six record is not indicated 300 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: a reflection of it's just how good and talented this 301 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: team is, especially on both sides of the ball. But 302 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers this season number two in passing attempts, number 303 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: five in completions, number seven in yards. The completion percentage, though, 304 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: is his lowest since twenty nineteen, and I don't know 305 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: if that's a product of not being on the same 306 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: page as his wide receivers. Mike Williams is no longer 307 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: on that roster, probably because of that. And I think 308 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: this week again DeVante Adams, this will be his fourth game. 309 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson's numbers have only gotten better with DeVante now 310 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: on that roster because as a defense, who are going 311 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: to focus on Aaron Rodgers' favorite target of all time 312 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: or someone who's young and right now leads the league 313 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: in receptions in Garrett. 314 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 3: Wilson, it's a good point. I mean, it's it's going 315 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 3: to be tough. Adams is a big receiver physically big, 316 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 3: really good at making those contested catches, So you're not 317 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 3: only going to have to be tight on him, You're 318 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 3: going to have to be smart and you can't draw 319 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 3: any penalties or make any you dumb decisions when it 320 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 3: comes to that. I will say again, Melton and Thomas 321 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 3: have done a very nice job this season at clean play. 322 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 3: They've had tight coverage, They've had some really crucial PBUs. 323 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 3: There were back to back plays against the Bears where 324 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 3: Caleb Williams went to throw a corner fade and both 325 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 3: times it was broken up by those two cornerbacks. Garrett 326 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 3: Williams has done a nice job. So the Cardinals secondary 327 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 3: really has looked good these last couple of weeks. The 328 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 3: defense as a hole is done a nice job keeping 329 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 3: offenses out of the end zone. It's just gonna be tough. 330 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 3: It's hard because when you look at it three and six, 331 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 3: you can say, Okay, the Jets offense has kind of 332 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 3: been all over the board. Aaron Rodgers truly as an 333 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 3: individual alone, really just makes out that much of a 334 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 3: difference that the three and six doesn't matter. 335 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: And then on the flip side, you look at this 336 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 1: Jets defense and that's been the one staple this entire season. 337 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 1: They are top ten in scoring, number four in total yards, 338 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 1: number one as far as yards per play. They have 339 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:48,239 Speaker 1: the second best pass defense in the league, and they 340 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 1: can get after the quarterback with thirty one sacks, and 341 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 1: they have the fourth best pressure rate this season. And oh, 342 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 1: by the way, Hassan Reddick is getting more and more comfortable. 343 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: He's on the team. But it's Williams, it's Will McDonald, 344 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: it's Michael Clemens, it's Solomon Thomas, it's that entire defensive 345 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: line that now the offensive line, which has done a 346 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 1: pretty good job this season of protecting Kyler Murray. That's 347 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 1: the matchup again. It's always at the line of scrimmage, 348 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: but this is a Jets defense that will come after you, 349 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:22,439 Speaker 1: not with a blitz, but with four coming right at you. 350 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 1: And you've got five offensive linemen. 351 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 3: It's been a team effort by New York. Those sacks 352 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 3: by twelve different players. This is not a situation where 353 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 3: you've got one, two, maybe three players that are going 354 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 3: off and you got a double team. And this is 355 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 3: a Jets defense that's able to divide and conquer. And 356 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 3: this Cardinals offensive line has done a nice job. This 357 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 3: Jets defense, though, is going to do their best to 358 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 3: put them off their spot and make them uncomfortable. The 359 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 3: Jets defense is forcing quarterbacks to scramble at a rate 360 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 3: higher than any other team. The positive to that is, 361 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 3: according to next Gen Stats, Murray is one of the 362 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 3: most accurate core backs on the run, which if you're 363 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 3: doing an eye test, that's really not a surprise given 364 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:06,679 Speaker 3: his ability to use his legs and pair that with 365 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 3: his arm and throw across his body and all of 366 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 3: those things that he's able to do so well. I 367 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 3: would think this is a game where we're gonna have 368 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,199 Speaker 3: to see Murray scramble a little more than we have 369 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,679 Speaker 3: in weeks past. Nothing new to Murray and to this 370 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 3: offense as a whole to get the job done. I 371 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 3: would just expect this Jets defense to really put the 372 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 3: pressure on him, and it's gonna take a lot by 373 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 3: this offensive line. Arizona has it in a nice job 374 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,880 Speaker 3: relatively keeping a clean pocket. You have to keep that up. 375 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 3: You need your receivers to really be on their p's 376 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 3: and q so that there's no delay in Murray throwing 377 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 3: the ball, there's no confusion or miscommunication on the route 378 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 3: being run where you need to be to catch the ball. 379 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 3: And you gotta have ball security. That has been an 380 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 3: issue for this Cardinals offense, who has fumbled the ball 381 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 3: in all but one game this season. This Jets defense 382 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:56,360 Speaker 3: has a league high nineteen takeaways. You cannot give them 383 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 3: the ball because of your own mistakes. 384 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 1: Love to see this team be able to run the 385 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:03,880 Speaker 1: ball against the Jets, But I have a feeling that 386 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 1: this might be more of a Kyler Murray game, maybe 387 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: much like the Miami Dolphins game. I don't know if 388 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: he needs to throw for over three hundred yards, but 389 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,199 Speaker 1: I think I think Kyler's going to have more of 390 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: a say this Sunday than maybe he had last Sunday, 391 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: in which he really didn't have much of a say, 392 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: which is fine. I just don't think that's the norm 393 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: with Kyler Murray and this offense. 394 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 3: No, I agree, and Murray would agree. He said that 395 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 3: after the game, of his standards, he wants to play 396 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 3: better than he did. He also was able to recognize 397 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,640 Speaker 3: when he talked to the media Wednesday that he said, quote, 398 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:42,880 Speaker 3: it's a beautiful thing when you're able to just hand 399 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 3: the ball off and win by defense. Of course, he 400 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 3: wants to be able to pass the ball and get 401 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 3: the passing game going the way that we had seen 402 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 3: the week prior against the Dolphins. The most important stat though, 403 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 3: is getting a win. And that's what's impressive is the 404 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 3: Cardinals are finding ways to get the win by the 405 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,959 Speaker 3: defense doing what they need to do and the offense 406 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 3: making adjustments. Against the Bears, it was running the ball 407 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 3: the week prior. Against the offense, it was passing the ball. 408 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 3: So that's what they've done a nice job doing and 409 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 3: I like that Murray's been able to recognize that, you 410 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 3: know what, if we can win games when I'm not 411 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 3: having to do everything that I'm normally having to do, 412 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 3: that's still okay. 413 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison Junior said much of the same on Wednesday 414 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 1: at his locker as well. Yeah, he would like to 415 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: have more of a consistent as far as consistency with 416 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,919 Speaker 1: his production. But the bottom line is are you winning 417 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: on Sundays? And when you are, then you really just 418 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: got to have to, Okay, take a step back. All Right, 419 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 1: this is not my week, But who's to say next week? 420 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: I might be more involved as far as the individual 421 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: stats are concerned, but the only statistic that anyone cares 422 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 1: about is that one loss record, and right now the 423 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 1: Cardinals are five and four, first place in the NFC West, 424 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: and I do think it matters, maybe just to us, 425 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,640 Speaker 1: but what a six and four mark would mean going 426 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: into the bye to be able to enjoy it and 427 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: then kind of take a break but have a little 428 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 1: bit more of a clearer mind than if you should 429 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 1: fall again. Five and five still great after ten games, 430 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: you're still in position, but six and four is just 431 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 1: I want to be greeting right now. I'm looking for 432 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 1: a four game winning streak going into the bye week. 433 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 3: Especially if the rest of the NFC West all three 434 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 3: teams can get a loss. Although I believe a Seattle 435 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 3: on their bye week this week. 436 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,199 Speaker 1: I just looked at the schedule the other day and 437 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: I can't remember. 438 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 3: I want to say Seattle's on there bye this week 439 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 3: if I'm thinking about fantasy football and looking and seeing 440 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 3: that we just got the thumbs up from Sattles on 441 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 3: the bye week. So if you're able to get another 442 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 3: win and possibly be two games up of the rest 443 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 3: of the division, that is creating a really nice cushion. 444 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 3: Every game truly does matter. I know that is coach 445 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 3: speak of it's week by week. Every game matters, It does, 446 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,919 Speaker 3: it really does. You can't look bad week sixteen or 447 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 3: seventeen and say, oh man, you know that that Week 448 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 3: three win just it didn't really matter. It does. I 449 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:11,880 Speaker 3: do think though, that mentally it has a stronger effect 450 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 3: if you are able to go into the bye week 451 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 3: that whole extra week off of win, and that makes sense. 452 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 3: You're not lingering on what you're having to flush in 453 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 3: terms of any negativity or what it you know coming 454 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 3: off a loss. So I do think that both things 455 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,439 Speaker 3: can be true. Knowing that this Jets game is the 456 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,679 Speaker 3: final game before the Cardinals bye week is not going 457 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 3: to change the mentality. It's not going to change the motivation, 458 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 3: the preparation, the game plan, anything like that. I also 459 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,640 Speaker 3: think that, heck, yeah, they're gonna want to go into 460 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 3: the bye week with a win feeling a little better 461 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 3: than maybe the sting of a loss at home. 462 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 1: It's not a division game, it's not even a conference game, 463 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: but it's still yes, and every game quote unquote, is equal. 464 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 1: I don't believe that because division games just mean more. 465 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: That's why the Cardinals are in first place because they 466 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: have a better division record and everyone was tied. So 467 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,120 Speaker 1: you don't tell me that every game means the same. 468 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 1: Coach wise, I'm not talking about you, but when coaches 469 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 1: say that that's just a lie. 470 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 3: Yes, And I can also see though, of Okay, well, 471 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 3: if you just focus on the wins and you get 472 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 3: more wins, then you're already above your divisional opponents. 473 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 1: Historically, a six and four start versus a five and 474 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: five start, six and four, you have almost a sixty 475 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: percent chance to make the playoffs. It's fifty eight point 476 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 1: nine if you want exactly, I know there's no math. 477 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 1: I'm just giving you numbers. 478 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 3: Well, round up to sixty five. 479 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 1: And five thirty percent chance? Really that big of a 480 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: dry Yeah, I though I was surprised too. It's like, wow, 481 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 1: that's I thinking. But again, that's this is going back 482 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 1: since nineteen ninety when the playoffs expanded to sixteen. I 483 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 1: mean when they expanded the first time, not the second time, 484 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 1: not when they now that you have seven, but no, 485 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 1: this was back to nineteen ninety. So yeah, it's a 486 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: big drop off. But again, now when you look across 487 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 1: the league this season as far as how many divisions 488 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 1: and teams are all within a game or two of 489 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,120 Speaker 1: each other. We just got done talking about the Jets. 490 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 1: They're three and six, they still believe they have a shot. Now, 491 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 1: are you gonna catch the dolphin. I mean the Bills, 492 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: probably not, but who's to say you can't get a 493 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: wild card? And as long as you get a spot 494 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,400 Speaker 1: in the dance, then that opens up everybody and give 495 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: you an opportunity. It's you want to be included, not excluded. 496 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: I mean watching the playoffs in January and hopefully February. 497 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,679 Speaker 3: Absolutely from a Cardinals standpoint, they are doing things the 498 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:30,880 Speaker 3: right way to find themselves playing in playoff football. 499 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: Before we jet out out of here, Hey, like what 500 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: I did? There's job all right. Shout out to our 501 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: associate producer Cody Fincher because he brought it up before 502 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 1: the show started up. Basically just stole it from here. 503 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 1: Shout out here, Blake gillikin NFC Special Teams Player of 504 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: the Week. Last week it was Chad Roylan who got 505 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 1: the Special Teams Player of the Month. But special Teams, 506 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: we don't talk about it unless things go wrong. Well, 507 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 1: how about we talk about it when things go right. 508 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,360 Speaker 1: And it's not just the punting, it's the kicking, it's 509 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: the coverage units, it's everything that is under Jeff Rodgers's direction, 510 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 1: and it has been darn near perfect through Week nine. 511 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 3: The Cardinals special teams unit has impacted the game positively 512 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 3: almost every week of the season. Going back to DJ 513 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 3: Dallas's kickoff return for a touchdown. Blake Killigan has done 514 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:31,399 Speaker 3: a nice job with his punts and it's been impressive 515 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,959 Speaker 3: to get the feeld positioning that he has, and that 516 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 3: really does make a difference when you're forcing your opponents 517 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 3: to play from further back on the field. It's the 518 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 3: entire unit, to your point, Max Melton, Joey Blunt, Greg Dorsch, 519 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:49,400 Speaker 3: names that continue to pop up a week after week 520 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 3: on any sort of special teams or coverage unit is 521 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 3: doing their job, being in the right spot at the 522 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 3: right time, being smart with the football. Big props to 523 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 3: special teams coordinator Jeff Rodgers. And it's nice to see 524 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 3: that special teams really does matter for this team and 525 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 3: for this organization. There's plenty of teams around the league 526 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 3: where it's special teams. Yeah, all three phases matter, and 527 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 3: you can clearly tell the emphasis on offense and defense 528 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 3: significantly more than special teams. 529 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: Know. 530 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 3: From the beginning with this front office, in this coaching staff, 531 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 3: with the acquisitions made in free agency and the moves 532 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 3: that have been made, special teams does matter. And this 533 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 3: is paying dividends to the hard work and putting that 534 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 3: effort there. 535 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: It's the preparation. Because the perfect example is that on 536 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,679 Speaker 1: side punt after the safety in which ten of the 537 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: eleven players because as we heard Jeff say, Greg Dorsch 538 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 1: did not signal, but ten of the eleven players signaled 539 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 1: a fair catch, which is brilliant. And that's something that wanted. 540 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 1: Didn't know you could do an on side punt but ken. 541 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 1: But again it goes back to the day to day. 542 00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 1: Make sure you're ready for whatever happens on Sunday. So again, yeah, 543 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 1: special teams as a whole. But now each of the 544 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 1: past two weeks you're singling out the kicker. This week 545 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 1: it's the punter, and specifically with gillickin against the Bears, 546 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 1: four times he punted, three of which landed inside the twenty. 547 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 1: The other punt the Bear started at the twenty one 548 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: yard line. So all again, you're flipping field position, which 549 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 1: is just as good sometimes if the offense isn't doing 550 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: what it did can do on that particular drive if 551 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: it stalls out, all right, you've got someone who has 552 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,640 Speaker 1: the leg the distance to pin a defense or pin 553 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 1: the opponent back on their own end and make them 554 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 1: drive eighty eighty five yards to get into field goal 555 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: or try to score a touchdown. 556 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 3: Rogers has been around the league for quite some time, 557 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 3: so it doesn't even really surprise me for him to 558 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 3: have thought of every scenario on having every player signal 559 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 3: for a fair catch on an onside punt last year, 560 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 3: at one point, Rogers it sounded like a joke. I 561 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 3: don't think it was a joke anymore. When he made 562 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 3: a comment that he has around a hunt your trick 563 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 3: plays up his sleeve. When when that came up at 564 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 3: one point, and I don't even feel like that's a 565 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 3: joke At this point, when when coaches talk about wanting competition, 566 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 3: that's real, and when you're looking at the special teams 567 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:16,479 Speaker 3: unit as a whole kicker, Chad Ryland is making a 568 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 3: case for some competition. Matt Prater remains on ir with 569 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 3: a knee injury. This will be his fourth game. Correct, 570 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 3: the Jets game will be his fourth game. 571 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 1: Fourth I can't remember. 572 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 3: He's missed a minimum of four games. It doesn't necessarily 573 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 3: mean he will be ready to come back, maybe after 574 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 3: the bye week, having that extra week. Either way, if 575 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 3: his return is imminent. It poses a pretty serious question 576 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 3: and decision that needs to be made by this Cardinals 577 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 3: team when you're looking at the kicker. 578 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 1: A good problem to have, absolutely if you're the front 579 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 1: officer and coaching step all right, the final shout out 580 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 1: sideline exchange, Dante Stills is the guests. I don't want 581 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: to give away everything, but let me just say this 582 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: about Dante. I think he is a an exit, an 583 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: excellent role model for young kids who have difficulties, if 584 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 1: you will, and their speech and here's someone that knows it, 585 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: acknowledges it, yet works right through it. And I can't 586 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 1: say enough good things about the person. Again, what this 587 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,239 Speaker 1: team wants in that locker room the person. And then 588 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 1: when given the opportunity here Stills is a sixth round 589 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 1: draft pick. Now all of a sudden, you can't see 590 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 1: this team without him on that defensive line. 591 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 3: Stills is a bright light. The fact that he works 592 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 3: through a speech impediment and you know, was willing to 593 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 3: do an interview and did it with the smile on 594 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 3: his face as something that I really respect and appreciate. 595 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 3: And I do think that that is a good example 596 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 3: for kids and adults. And you know and to see that. 597 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 3: And Stills has done a nice job, a really nice 598 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 3: job taking advantage of his opportunities last year and this 599 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 3: year and continuing to show up. He's got a second 600 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 3: three straight game, so his play is really starting to 601 00:30:56,320 --> 00:31:00,080 Speaker 3: pick up. And look, everyone on the team really loves Still. 602 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 3: As I was waiting for him to walk off the 603 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,479 Speaker 3: field after practice Wednesday to do the interview, you know, 604 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 3: you've got some defensive lineman kind of chirping and having 605 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 3: fun with him and rights we're about to start. General 606 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 3: manager MANI awesome for it. Walks behind us to go 607 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 3: into the building and he laughs, he goes, oh, man, 608 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 3: he gets one sack and he's the media guy, big 609 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 3: superstar obviously with a joke and a smile on his face. 610 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 1: By the way, Dante Stills leads the team with three 611 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 1: and a half sacks. 612 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 3: How about that? How many did Dennis Gardak have before 613 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 3: his injury? 614 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: Okay, so yes, Dante Sills sack master for the Arizona 615 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: Cardinals and now Sideline Exchange guest of Danny Surrek, Azycardinals 616 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 1: dot Com and the Arizona Cardinals official YouTube channel. Later 617 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 1: on this week again, Cardinals and the Jets coming up 618 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 1: on Sunday two twenty five is the kickoff nine thirty. 619 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 1: Pre game coverage begins. Can the Cardinals go to six 620 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 1: and four heading into the bye week? My last piece 621 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: of advice, Danny, don't forget your binoculars. 622 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 3: I know, I can't believe I forgot them last week? 623 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 3: How sad was that for those keeping track? Yet I 624 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 3: forgot to bring my binoculars to the game. 625 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 1: It's all right, I got a pair right there. I 626 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: just put it right between us. 627 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 3: And you're a good kind of you to offer to share. 628 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 3: I will not forget. 629 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: Okay, you heard it, bird Gang, she will bring her binoculars. 630 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 1: On some you think. 631 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 3: They're gonna open the roof? 632 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 1: Well, can it get too cold? I mean, I'm not 633 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: expecting rain in the forecast on or hail. But is 634 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 1: there such a thing as being too cold in Arizona 635 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 1: where you don't open the roof. That's a good question. 636 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 1: I have no idea. 637 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 3: I mean, if you're gonna ask me, my answer will. 638 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 1: Probably be yes, I think the roof will be open. 639 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: It's a prediction I have no I have yet, I 640 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 1: don't know. 641 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 3: Usually a joke about the weather, Ye. 642 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 1: Usually it's not known until Saturday, but again expect the 643 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 1: roof to be open. It's it's so much nicer in 644 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: the building when the roof is open. 645 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. And the timing, the sun will be 646 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 3: out and you'll have a lot of people around you 647 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 3: for some body heat. Yes, better vibes when the roof 648 00:32:58,520 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 3: is open. 649 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 1: Absolutely, roof open. Binoculars will be there on Sunday as well. 650 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 1: See if the Cardinals can run that winning streak to 651 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: four in a row. And on that note, we'll put 652 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 1: a lid on this edition of Cardinals Cover two presented 653 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 1: by Hyundai, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. As always, 654 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 1: special thanks to our executive producer Jim Mamahundro, our associate 655 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 1: producer Coddy Fincher. For Danny Serek, I'm Craig Raylu. We'll 656 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 1: talk to you next time here on Cardinals Cover two.