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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season one, eight, Episode two. Guys,

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Speaker 1: my my closet doors. Anyways, did you know that this

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Speaker 1: is a production of iHeart Radio Miles and a podcast

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Speaker 1: where we take a deep dive into America's share colle

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Speaker 1: It is, of course the Circle of Zight from the

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Speaker 1: O'Brien king uh and um thrilled to be joined as always,

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Speaker 1: buy my co host Mr Miles Great murder and a

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Speaker 1: horrifies or maybe even you know, get that Johnson and

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Speaker 1: and you know, it could only beat Christie Almagucci Mane

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Speaker 1: with that wonderful Beach Boys inspired vaccine anthem, the Vanthom.

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Speaker 1: I got my I got my appointment, and as I

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Speaker 1: was making my appointment for this Thursday, I had visions

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Speaker 1: of John Stamos dancing in my head. Johns on the

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Speaker 1: on the bongoes, Yep, what do you dreamboat? And that's

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Speaker 1: been actually powering you to be safeness entire like lockdown,

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Speaker 1: It's surreal to be like, okay, yeah, but it's not over. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's like I'm going to Kocomo with it and I'm

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Speaker 1: not packing a mask. Bro. Within seconds, got the shot,

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Speaker 1: I'm on my way. Peace. Well, Miles, we are thrilled

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Speaker 1: to be joined in our third seat by the brilliant,

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Speaker 1: the talented, the hilarious Chelsea Webber Smith. Well, thank you

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Speaker 1: for being here with you guys. Thank you for having

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Speaker 1: me back. Always such a great conversation to be ahead. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I agree. I love talking to you guys. It's so

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Speaker 1: good talking to you. As we've talked about before, you

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Speaker 1: like your work on you know, social moral panics and

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Speaker 1: just your kind of pop cultural history. Mind for pop

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Speaker 1: culture history is just just injected right into my fucking veins.

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Speaker 1: I love it. I will yes, what are you trying

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Speaker 1: to get a jumbo you want to or is um

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Speaker 1: the other thing? I was gonna see what I was

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Speaker 1: thinking to you when Little nas X worked his way

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Speaker 1: to hell? Okay, I know that was full blown. It

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Speaker 1: was you know, I will say it hasn't been great

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Speaker 1: but uh, yeah, I would think. I think he has

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Speaker 1: a brilliant PR team, which I'm sure he's a huge

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Speaker 1: part of because I think they knew what they were

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Speaker 1: doing with that and what was going to happen. And

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Speaker 1: I appreciate a good PR stunt as much as I

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Speaker 1: hate capitalism, I have to say. And that was a beautiful,

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Speaker 1: beautiful rollout from start to finish there, and you know,

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Speaker 1: it was a Satanic panic, but man, things just the

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Speaker 1: last Satanic panic lasted like fifteen years and it's just

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Speaker 1: we're turning them over. Oh yeah, we turned them over fast.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, thank you for thinking of Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: when Charles Manson died a bunch of people called me,

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Speaker 1: like superhero killers. How does that feel for you? What? Wait?

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Speaker 1: What did you think? I was in the manna? Like, oh,

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Speaker 1: my god, thing, Oh his wisdom was so beyond and

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Speaker 1: his music, let's not forget poor one out for another

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Speaker 1: musical king. That's pretty ridic Did you ever hear those

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Speaker 1: weird tapes? Those those are I remember dating somebody who

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Speaker 1: Kokomo is the most authentically and deeply satanic song in

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Speaker 1: interesting because Charles Manson and the Manson family like a

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Speaker 1: say Satanic in the more evil than anything. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Satanic Panic only lasted all but fifteen seconds. Has Satan

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Speaker 1: post Satan world now? Like Satan is no longer the

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Speaker 1: metal Heads, right, It's like the metal Heads of the eighties.

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Speaker 1: It's in the backwards records. It's all the same ship.

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Speaker 1: It's just a little bit more so and it's sexier. Now. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but he did kill Satan. Yeah. Did you ever witness

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Speaker 1: a wave of comedy like sketch sketch comedy around Manson

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Speaker 1: the Spooky Day and the guys like trying to record

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Speaker 1: Mike Love and that that started the whole Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: a it's a bummer, but it is a saga. Alright, Chelsea,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get to know you a little bit better

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Speaker 1: in a moment. First, we're gonna tell our listeners a

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Speaker 1: Bill of Rights. We're gonna talk about White Lives Matter

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Speaker 1: rallies that happened over the weekend. Michigan is peeking, uh,

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Speaker 1: But first, Chelsea, we like to ask our guest, what

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Speaker 1: for American Hysteria, which is the podcast podcast that I host,

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Speaker 1: we're doing kind of like a big Urban Legends um

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Speaker 1: Extravaganza episode. So I've been searching for like the equivalent

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Speaker 1: wonder how much guilt is tied to how like powerful

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Speaker 1: a methos becomes, because another thing that like the knowledge

427
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 1: that there's a lie there. I feel like I'm I

428
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 1: talk a lot on this show about how like white

429
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 1: supremacy there, like in a lot of cases there is

430
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 1: the knowledge that it's wrong, and like that powers a

431
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 1: lot of it, like sort of that cognitive dissonance and

432
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 1: like them knowing that they're lying and knowing that their

433
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 1: beliefs are completely full of ship like powers, a lot

434
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:58,119
Speaker 1: of the hatred and like anger and just the energy.

435
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 1: And like with World War Two, you have like heading

436
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 1: into it, the fact that America and like America's business

437
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 1: leaders were really into eugenics, and then coming out of it,

438
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 1: like we had the Cold War, and that was somewhat

439
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 1: convenient because it was allowed us to completely paper over

440
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,880
Speaker 1: the fact that like Russia essentially won World War Two

441
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:22,640
Speaker 1: for the Allies like they were the fun don't know, man,

442
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 1: you see how poor they look. It's like what, no,

443
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 1: do you know what happened? Do you know what happened

444
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 1: when the Germans went okay? Whatever? Yeah, when you just

445
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 1: look at the numbers of like people uh Nazis killed

446
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:41,400
Speaker 1: and the number of lives lost on on Russia versus

447
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 1: the United States, it's like not not even comparable. And

448
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 1: I do feel like maybe that's where like some of

449
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 1: the Cold War energy comes from, is knowing that there's

450
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:51,919
Speaker 1: that lie there and like wanting to be able to

451
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,880
Speaker 1: perpetuate it. Right. Stalin always like smirking at the presidents

452
00:26:55,880 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 1: like alright, you know, I'm letna sell you something that's

453
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: not true, man, Like creet this guy if I got

454
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 1: to see him again, and he starts ribbing me about

455
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 1: World War two. I'm gonna we're gonna have to bomb them.

456
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 1: All right, Let's take a quick break and we'll be

457
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 1: right back. And we're back and so. On Sunday afternoon,

458
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:39,679
Speaker 1: reportedly unarmed twenty year old man named Dante Wright was

459
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,880
Speaker 1: stopped by police for what he believed at the time,

460
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 1: And we don't know specifics, but he called his mom

461
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,400
Speaker 1: right away and said that he was being stopped because

462
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 1: he has an air freshener on his rear view mirror,

463
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 1: which apparently is a law in Minnesota that is constantly

464
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,679
Speaker 1: you used to just allow the police to stop whoever

465
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:07,360
Speaker 1: the funk they want, because you know, shitty pretext for

466
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 1: detaining somebody. Huh. So, you know, first of all, it

467
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 1: just speaks volumes that he felt the need to call

468
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:18,479
Speaker 1: his mom well while he was being pulled over, and

469
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: now we have video of what happened during the stop

470
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 1: they were trying to arrest him. He got back in

471
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 1: his car, and so the officer and a second officer

472
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:33,159
Speaker 1: like ran up and she grabbed a gun from the

473
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 1: first officer's waist, yelled taser taser and then fatally shot

474
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 1: him and he speeds off and like you literally hear

475
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 1: saying I shot him shit, and the other cops like

476
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: have this like response like odd damn. And then after

477
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 1: the fact, his mom was at the scene of you

478
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 1: know where he where his dead body was all day

479
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 1: while the police just left him there on the avement.

480
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: She just kept asking them to pick his body up

481
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 1: off the ground. They wouldn't do it. They knew what happened,

482
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 1: they knew who was to blame. And like, I can't

483
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 1: conceive of, first of all, what his mom was going through,

484
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 1: but the second ball, like what was going through their

485
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: head when they're you know, somebody that they've unlawfully killed

486
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 1: is lying there and they're just leaving him there, you know,

487
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 1: because they gotta fucking make up a story, right this.

488
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I don't know. I mean the reading

489
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: that he called his mother seems very normal. I think

490
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 1: a lot of black people now there there's you have

491
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: macros for your phone to do a couple of things

492
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: on your phone and immediately go live with whatever is

493
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 1: happening to you, to try and create some kind of

494
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 1: living document, recording, accountability record for you. In the unfortunately,

495
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: possible scenario in which a police officer is going to

496
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 1: become violent and possibly end your life. And yeah, you

497
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 1: you look at this. He has a little baby child,

498
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 1: Dante Jr. And I don't know it makes this is this,

499
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 1: This is never gonna end, you know what I mean?

500
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 1: This is never gonna end. Doesn't matter how many fucking

501
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: black tiles people post on Instagram and how many companies

502
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: are like we're listening, man, that doesn't matter, Like unless

503
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 1: legislators are listening, Um, it doesn't matter. That doesn't even matter. Like, Unfortunately,

504
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 1: we're going to have to be the people that are

505
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 1: going to have to guarantee these outcomes for each other

506
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 1: through actual pressure campaigns, to actually trying to find other

507
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 1: ways to keep our community safe, because this pack of

508
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: fucking wild assholes with guns has proven time and again

509
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 1: that they can't even they don't even know the difference

510
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 1: between a gun and a taser now because they're whatever,

511
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: they're racist. Fight or flight response goes off by being

512
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: in the presence of a black body or a person

513
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 1: of color, or or on someone who is needs support,

514
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 1: whether that's for their mental health or whatever. This is

515
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: this ship just isn't it. And it's just going to

516
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 1: be the same outcomes over and over and over again,

517
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 1: and you're just heartbreaks for a mother who can't even

518
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 1: who has to beg for the dignity of the corpse

519
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 1: of her child to be removed or at least covered.

520
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: Like it's just all fun. I don't know, it's just

521
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: the Yeah, it's constant, it's constant, and so you know,

522
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:28,959
Speaker 1: it's like all for all the ship that will come

523
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 1: out of this, unfortunately, and that that inspires more people

524
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: to have to take to the streets to voice their

525
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 1: absolute disapproval and heartbreak over this happening. And then queue

526
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: the fucking goon squads who are you know, and like

527
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: coming in with cries please please remain peaceful, and then

528
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: and then shooting, you know, rubber bullets and flash bangs,

529
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 1: and the response is just completely different than the response

530
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: at the Capitol. I mean, I know that's cliche to say,

531
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 1: but it's just like they just always you know, I've

532
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: been to enough protests that feeling when they all roll

533
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 1: out of their fucking vans, look, you know, and their

534
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: storm troopers ship is like, I don't know, and you know,

535
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 1: the gathering is so small, you know, and compared to

536
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 1: the response, and it's just it's always the same, like

537
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: you said, and not if it's always the same too, right,

538
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: And I just hope at some point, like people, if

539
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: you're just seeing this pattern over and over, like you know,

540
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 1: most allies and people of color knew what time it

541
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: was from the beginning. Yeah, some more people are starting

542
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 1: to understand, like, oh, right, there is a lot of

543
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: racial inequality, and like whatever, if it took you this long, fine,

544
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 1: at least you've figured it out. But please keep figuring

545
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: it out because it can just be like, oh, that sucks,

546
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: because we're gonna keep seeing this, and maybe the pattern

547
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 1: will set in for a group of people who are

548
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 1: not as moved by this kind of ship to see, oh,

549
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: every time they don't give a funk about what happens,

550
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 1: they will kill somebody, and then they're gonna knuckle up

551
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: and say, what the funk are you gonna do about it?

552
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: Gonna do ship and set the funk back down and

553
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: let us kill people undisturbed and carry on with what

554
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 1: we do as police. That's the that's the cycle, every

555
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 1: fucking time. And so I think for some people it's

556
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 1: starting to get old. But I think but it hasn't again,

557
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 1: like so many things in this country were so fucking

558
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 1: like we still haven't receive tipping points where enough you

559
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 1: were like, oh, Mike, this is it's the same ship

560
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: every time. It's the same ship every time, and we're

561
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 1: not doing anything about it, and also demanding that the

562
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 1: fucking people that represent us in government also are on

563
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: the same page rather than like, oh, Mike, I hear

564
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: you so bad. It's so bad. I actually just watched

565
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: Watchmen this weekend to try and get a little more understanding,

566
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 1: and I see that we shouldn't mess with drugs that

567
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 1: alter our sense of memory. That was the biggest thing

568
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: I got or that series. But yeah, like it's just

569
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 1: the human mind is a drug that alters the sense

570
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: of memory. We didn't love do it. And I think

571
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: it's important too that we like we don't get to

572
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 1: the point where we're like awokened or whatever and then

573
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: suddenly we're just the good guys speaking of white people,

574
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, and like it's the same thing,

575
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,919
Speaker 1: like you become progressive and you just got to keep,

576
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 1: you know, keep going with the ways that you're contributing

577
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: to this situation too. And uh, I think it's easy

578
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: to just and I think it's important to to to

579
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: be really engaged in the particular fight, just like in

580
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: a simple way. Right, But then if you forget like

581
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:39,399
Speaker 1: the fact that you have accountability in America as well,

582
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: no matter how liberal or how leftist you are as

583
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: a white person, and I think that that's like something

584
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 1: that we can easily forget and is just as important

585
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 1: for like an actual move forward, right rather than some

586
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 1: another way, for like a corporation or a person to

587
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,399
Speaker 1: put up a black square and be done with it,

588
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 1: you know. And I think you know a white people, well,

589
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: you get to be You've got to be passive for

590
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: a really long time in this country and still a

591
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: uh experience progress on some level. Um, you can no

592
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 1: longer be passive. I'm sorry, it's just that's just how

593
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: it is. People of color and other press people aren't

594
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: don't have the the privilege to be passive like we

595
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 1: have to be on all the time. We're in survival

596
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 1: mode to some degree, whether we like it or not,

597
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 1: to the point that a lot of people of color

598
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,399
Speaker 1: have a lot of survivals survivors guilt when they get

599
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 1: to places where they can relax because they only know

600
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: one mode, which is just to have your head on

601
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: a swivel. Something. This ship, this country is not for me.

602
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: It's telling me this actively, so I have to operate

603
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 1: within that. You can't be passive in a mindset like that,

604
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 1: and in fact, and the people who are looking to

605
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 1: create progress have to be passive as well, because progress

606
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:54,280
Speaker 1: itself is not a passive act. It's about being active, proactive.

607
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 1: That's the only way you can bring about progress. If

608
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 1: you are passive and you're just saying, I, well, look,

609
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: I get that the cops are yeah, a cab, you know,

610
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: the cops fucking suck, and like, it's so unfair what

611
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: happens to people in this country. That's passive. You just

612
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 1: merely acknowledging it is too passive an act and it's

613
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 1: not going to bring the progress around. That's where you

614
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:20,479
Speaker 1: can now weaponize your whiteness for good and really start

615
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: thinking of how you can use your influence with And

616
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying I'm gonna funk it. I'll keep saying this

617
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: every eight six eight months if I have to figure

618
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: out how the fuck you can improve ship from wherever

619
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,399
Speaker 1: you're at. It doesn't no one's asking anybody to change

620
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: the world out the gate. But certainly don't sit back

621
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 1: and if somebody, if you have you know, family later

622
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:40,479
Speaker 1: on in life, say what did you during this time,

623
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 1: don't say, well, I knew it was bad, be able

624
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: to point to some ship, even if it was like,

625
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: oh I I checked in on these families, I gave

626
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 1: to these groups. I volunteered my time. I really tried

627
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:56,919
Speaker 1: to actually decolonize my own mind of all the propaganda

628
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 1: and ship I've been fed through the media to try

629
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: and arrive. I have have had a new sense of awareness

630
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: that I can find a way to be productive and

631
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: actually contribute to this thing that I'm saying I want,

632
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 1: which is progress. Because if you're passive right now and

633
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: you're just retweeting ship, that ain't enough, Like think about

634
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: the energy you can actually put into it. Think of

635
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: the energy you can you can dedicate to this one.

636
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 1: And if it's if it's daunting, you know, like that's

637
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 1: what you said, is like nobody's expecting to change the

638
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 1: world right off the gate. And I think so many

639
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,399
Speaker 1: like so many of us are raised to think like

640
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 1: I need to make this like massive impact or I'm

641
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:33,479
Speaker 1: not going to do anything, almost as like an ego

642
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: trip kind of thing, you know, instead of just being

643
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: like like, I like to think of it in a

644
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 1: nice way where like, you know, there's like a some

645
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 1: sort of a meter in in life, and you can

646
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 1: just tip it just like the tiniest bit in the

647
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 1: direction you want, right, and that's great, you know, And

648
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: I think, just don't get paralyzed by this daunting thing

649
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 1: and just like go help somebody on your block or

650
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: just do anything, you know exactly. And I think the

651
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: idea that one person or a finite number of people

652
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 1: are going to solve of it is the trick of

653
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 1: white supremacy to be like, well, fuck, I mean I can't,

654
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: I just can't do and get my neighbors. That's not

655
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: gonna work like that, No, of course not. But that's

656
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,760
Speaker 1: to your point. If every if a ton of people

657
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: start making a lot of little changes, ship will begin differently,

658
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: even if that's like checking people in your friend group

659
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: family to be like, don't fucking first of all, the

660
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 1: ship that you're saying is racist, it's destructive, and you

661
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: actually need to think about how you can remedy that

662
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 1: or whatever, or how you can bring up people in

663
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 1: your workplace or community and things like that. But if

664
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 1: everyone just little subtle ship or fucking not being a

665
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 1: bystander and a hate crime, or even recording police that

666
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 1: you think are using excessive force on somebody to record it.

667
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: Say I will hey, I saw that ship, I will

668
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: tell I will testify in a court to say, I

669
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 1: saw what the funk they did to you? That's fucked up.

670
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: I'll do whatever. I don't give a fuck because that's wrong.

671
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: We just need to adopt that my instep more. But unfortunately,

672
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: it's just too comfortable to be passive, and too many

673
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 1: people their lives can remain similar by being passive. So

674
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: there's not a lot of incentive for people to get active.

675
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 1: But but that's the thing you hope to connect with.

676
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,399
Speaker 1: If you see stories like this and they break your heart,

677
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: then put some energy into it. Put some energy into it,

678
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 1: because that will you you actually will be able to

679
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: contribute to something larger. And again, no one's asking whoever

680
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: is listening now to solve it, but ship, put some

681
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: energy into it, just some Yeah, we're almost asking you

682
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 1: not to solve it, right, like, just so that you

683
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: can just and everybody has a skill set that they

684
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: can work with, you know, like we kind of there's

685
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,399
Speaker 1: not one way to do something. There's not one way

686
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 1: to you know, affect change, And I just I do

687
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: I think, I just wish we could all just do

688
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:56,240
Speaker 1: a small thing and be humble. Yeah, you know yeah,

689
00:39:56,280 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 1: And I think, don't again, don't let racism system make

690
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: oppression like this fool you into thinking nothing can be

691
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,399
Speaker 1: done about it, because that's how it fucking carries on.

692
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,320
Speaker 1: How this fucking whole system carries on. Is this It

693
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 1: breaks you down to the point like we're seeing, what

694
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: the funk am I gonna do? Me? What am I

695
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: gonna What am I gonna do a black and Asian

696
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:19,800
Speaker 1: man gonna do to NonStop anti Asian violence, NonStop black

697
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 1: people being killed? What the fund can I do? But

698
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: I don't have that mindset. My mindset is to get

699
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,240
Speaker 1: on this mic. And if I can say some ship

700
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 1: to make people think a certain way, then funk it

701
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 1: all do that. If I can check other people in

702
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 1: my life and say, yo, I gotta tell you something,

703
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 1: you should actually this, the way you speak is not

704
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: good you need to actually think about, then I'll do that.

705
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 1: If I have to donate money, I'll do that if

706
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:43,840
Speaker 1: I want to. But just it's no one's Look, not

707
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 1: everyone has the same resources and access to things, but

708
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 1: we all have access to our empathy and access to

709
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 1: just this the human decency that we can extend to

710
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 1: other people in whatever way that is. And I think

711
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 1: that just needs to be more normal and encouraged, absolutely

712
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 1: without it being tied to like I'm doing this to

713
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: solve systemic white supremacy, like systemic white supremacy. No, I'm

714
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: doing this to see somebody and say I'm gonna help,

715
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna help, I'm gonna help. I'm gonna help. If

716
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: someone needs help, I can help. It doesn't have to

717
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 1: always be in the binary of black or white either,

718
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: because that's another pitfall this country falls into, of just

719
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 1: thinking that the only things that are going on are

720
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,800
Speaker 1: between black and white people and not just observed and

721
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: that it's not a class issue since the beginning to

722
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 1: and just it sucks actually showing like that they're one

723
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:34,280
Speaker 1: of the details as those falling the story this morning.

724
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: Uh like they had actual activists there at the press

725
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: conference asking questions of the police chief, um, and the

726
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 1: police chief, you know some of the things they did

727
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 1: when when people protested outside of the precinct last night,

728
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: they turned the lights off everywhere so they could just start,

729
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: you know, presumably start like wailing on people. And the

730
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 1: person was able to be like, I've been at all

731
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: all the protests and I've never seen anything like that,

732
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:09,879
Speaker 1: And and the chief didn't have he was like they

733
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: were throwing, they were throwing pop cans, they were throwing.

734
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 1: He kept like stumbling over bricks, so it seemed like

735
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 1: he wanted to say bricks but like couldn't actually like

736
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: back it up. But it's actually Brat's dolls. But that's

737
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: something that I'm definitely just personally, I feel like getting

738
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: physically on the ground, uh is something that I haven't

739
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: been doing to this point that I want to start

740
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:43,760
Speaker 1: doing because I think just in general, like the police

741
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: response to any question of their authority, it just makes

742
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 1: like the way they respond to that just makes it

743
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 1: so clear. And I think the more people that we

744
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 1: can get peacefully protesting, the more it's going to be

745
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 1: stark and clear to people that like when they're facing

746
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:08,479
Speaker 1: violent police officers who are you know, shooting at them

747
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: and uh, tear gassing them for just you know, exercising

748
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 1: their right, Like, Yeah, it's a powerful experience when you're

749
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: you go somewhere too, you know, for for the defense

750
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 1: of people, and then you're met with just absurd violence.

751
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 1: It very quickly you will begin to see how where

752
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,359
Speaker 1: the power lies and like what the end goals are

753
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 1: for people, because it's like, oh, you're here to advocate

754
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 1: for the week. Well, we're here to push the week around. Uh,

755
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:42,839
Speaker 1: shows you something. And I think if the more people

756
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: can begin distilling those lessons into seeing like what all

757
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 1: of this means in like the larger scale, you know,

758
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 1: will hopefully help us move towards like collectively fixing our future.

759
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: Because this was in Minnesota, Chovin's uh defense attorney Chalvin

760
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 1: whatever the fund isn't it? Derek Childon, his defense attorney,

761
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 1: already trying to use this as a pretext to have

762
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 1: the jury like sequestered and presumably delay the trial. But unfortunately,

763
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,879
Speaker 1: because of people like his client, you would just never

764
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 1: have a trial if you had to wait every time

765
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:23,320
Speaker 1: police officer murdered someone unjustly. So yeah, hopefully it seems

766
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,839
Speaker 1: like the judge saw through that and hopefully continues to Yeah.

767
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 1: I was like, no, I think it's that's that there's

768
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,720
Speaker 1: no that that that didn't create any tampering of the jury.

769
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 1: I think you just said, like the news goes on.

770
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 1: You know, you can't sequester people from reality, It's right,

771
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 1: and unfortunately that is the news going on. Yeah, all right,

772
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: let's let's talk briefly related subject to what's happening in Maryland. Yeah. Yeah,

773
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: because the cops out here saying, don't know that rates

774
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 1: the police Bill of Rates, I thought we had that

775
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 1: fucking forty was a seventy any three? So Maryland, basically

776
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 1: they've just began the official skull fucking and canceling of

777
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:10,760
Speaker 1: the police Bill of Rights, which dates back to nineteen

778
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 1: seventy three, when a group of cops basically began crying

779
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: to politicians over how they were being poorly treated by

780
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: like police commanders, that we're doing things like discipline them

781
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 1: for fucking up. And I think this must have been

782
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: an arrow when there was like I guess, like the

783
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: three cops that still were like trying to be like, hey, hey,

784
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 1: we don't do that. We're like kind of what the

785
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: media is trying to show us to be of cops.

786
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:35,879
Speaker 1: And then this new batches like, now we don't funk

787
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 1: with this. So this Law Enforcement Officers Bill of Rights

788
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: was a first in the nation law that basically created

789
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:46,800
Speaker 1: these workplace protections for cops that were like that ushered

790
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 1: in this era of absolute fuckory. We're saying, like including

791
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 1: giving officers formal waiting period before they had to cooperate

792
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: with an internal investigation, uh, scrubbing records of complaints brought

793
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,359
Speaker 1: against officers after a certain period if you're if you're

794
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: a good boy, then nope, it's by and ensuring that

795
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 1: only police officers, not civilians, could investigate them. So this

796
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 1: is essentially the This is when they put their protective

797
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 1: blankie over them. Nix and his president at this time

798
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 1: and screaming about law and order, and I think the

799
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 1: idea or the feeling in the country was that like

800
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: crime was going up because people weren't regularly getting the

801
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 1: ship kicked out of them by police, not because of

802
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 1: again lack of opportunity or resources in her that's it's

803
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 1: it's the lack of beatings and bludgeonings and shootings of

804
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 1: innocent people that is creating the crime. So this basically

805
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 1: went ushered in this new era. And yes, the fact

806
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 1: that Maryland is now getting around to repealing this, you know,

807
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:50,399
Speaker 1: Larry Hogan who's the governor tried to repeal it, tried

808
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 1: to veto it, but oh they had a they've were

809
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 1: able to override the governor's veto to get the ship going.

810
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: And Governor Hogan had to say, quote, the original intent

811
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 1: had been overtaken by political agendas that do not serve

812
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 1: the public safety needs of the citizens of Maryland. He

813
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 1: said the changes would quote further erode police morale, community relationships,

814
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:18,439
Speaker 1: and public confidence. Oh the fucking same state that where

815
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 1: Freddie Gray's spine was severed mysteriously and we still have

816
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 1: no accountability for his death. That it wasn't that that's

817
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 1: gonna you know, funk up? The community relationships or public

818
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:35,240
Speaker 1: confidence are what and what the fund is police morale?

819
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 1: How quickly they can get an erection at the thought

820
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 1: of murdering a black person, Like what the funk is that?

821
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,240
Speaker 1: I don't this ship is like so the dog whistles

822
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: are so bad now, like it can only mean one thing.

823
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:52,800
Speaker 1: This guy from the fucking popo frat Angelo Consoli, He says,

824
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 1: the reality is they have reinvented policing in the state

825
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 1: of Maryland. They're going to make it tougher for the

826
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:02,720
Speaker 1: police to police. There's reform, and this went beyond reform.

827
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: What does that mean for the police to police if

828
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 1: the just rough people up with impunity and kill people.

829
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 1: So if the things you're taking away are you know,

830
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: this ability, because I'm sorry, they could they I think

831
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: at its longest point, you could have a five day

832
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 1: period where you didn't have to talk to investigators if

833
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 1: some ship went down. That's a lot of time to

834
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 1: figure out what your improv group is going to do

835
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:31,720
Speaker 1: on stage. You know, when you have to lie about

836
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:33,839
Speaker 1: what the funk happened. That's what ship like that does.

837
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 1: And even when Freddie Gray died, the mayor was like,

838
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 1: it's this police bill of rights. Unfortunately, that makes this

839
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: impossible to really get any kind of accountability here. So

840
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,240
Speaker 1: I guess when you have things like mandating body cameras,

841
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 1: allowing for citizen oversight, and ending no knock warrants, those

842
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 1: are the things that make policing hard to do. Accountability, accountability,

843
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: So what is policing exactly based on, like, let's follow this,

844
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 1: what does that mean that? Because again, all you're saying is, hey,

845
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 1: all you know, we gotta funk, we gotta suck these

846
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 1: people up. That's how that's what the cops are. And

847
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 1: if we can't funk them up, then what the funk

848
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 1: are we doing here? I don't know, Maybe you should

849
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 1: go maybe this isn't this isn't for you, right for

850
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 1: all the any police officer who's morale this like dampens,

851
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:22,879
Speaker 1: maybe they should not be. Maybe that that should maybe

852
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: they should be so down in the dumps that they

853
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 1: find a new line of work that doesn't allow them to,

854
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 1: you know, kill people with impunity. I feel like it's

855
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 1: like really important to think about ninety three, you know,

856
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: like you gave context. But that's like right after the

857
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 1: Black Panthers, right, And that's like right after Fred Hampton

858
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 1: was killed by like a clearly deeply, deeply illegal but

859
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 1: completely protected murder, like next level murder, right, like unreal

860
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 1: type of murder, not any murder even know, you know

861
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 1: what I mean though, like the excessive force that is

862
00:49:57,719 --> 00:49:59,800
Speaker 1: it was just a hit. It was it was an assassin,

863
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 1: like not even an assassination that's like two and it

864
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:05,720
Speaker 1: was like a hit. Like anybody who hasn't seen Judas

865
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 1: on the Black Missile or it doesn't know the story,

866
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 1: like he's drugged in his bed and they walk in

867
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 1: and assassinate him like point like us just spray of

868
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,800
Speaker 1: so many like so many to the point it wasn't

869
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:23,359
Speaker 1: it wasn't merely an assassination would maybe be like how

870
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,360
Speaker 1: Putin does it where you show up strangled or you

871
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 1: fell out of a building or yeah, one shot to

872
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 1: the head or something like that, not riddled with bullets.

873
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 1: But they that's like the Catharsis of white supremacy. He

874
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:39,879
Speaker 1: was drugged the night before by an FBI informant. That's

875
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:41,839
Speaker 1: why he was drugged in his bed and was still

876
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 1: asleep after like being shot a number of times, and

877
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 1: after there were hundreds of bullets fired into his apartment

878
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 1: and then the police walked in and shot him in

879
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 1: the head point blank, after after all the shooting was done,

880
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 1: and it was defensive right in the end, because some

881
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 1: one of the black panthers, like the security, his weapon discharged,

882
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 1: and you know, there's a lot of argument that that

883
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:09,399
Speaker 1: was not that that was a non intentional shot, right

884
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 1: and so and then it's also the weather underground time

885
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 1: to write, which is a complicated topic, but there's just

886
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:18,919
Speaker 1: the early seventies are so much kind of like right now,

887
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 1: and so I don't think I think it's really interesting

888
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 1: that that bill is coming up at this moment, like

889
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 1: kind of a similar culture war. But I think now

890
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 1: the opinion is less on the side of like, oh no,

891
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 1: what what are we going to do? And now everybody's

892
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 1: like the white people are joining the black panthers and ships,

893
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 1: So I don't see the other underground was I guess right,

894
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 1: like that's what we'll see what you know, how how

895
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 1: much of a difference that makes, because yeah, what is

896
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 1: this forty seven years? Forty eight years you know, for

897
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 1: that's generations of people being tormented with these laws. And

898
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 1: we'll see if this this momentum can continue. But yeah,

899
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 1: we still do have, unfortunately, this huge existance to like

900
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 1: this idea of like reimagining what policing is, because even

901
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:08,839
Speaker 1: without imagining, we're observing what it is and it's completely

902
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 1: fucked up and nonsensical. Yeah, so yeah, we have to say,

903
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 1: like this is dangerous. It's like no, but that's because

904
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,760
Speaker 1: you know what, that's because you're not experiencing the police

905
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 1: like other people are, so and for you, the police

906
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:26,360
Speaker 1: means a completely different thing. Yeah, you're not being stopped

907
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:30,839
Speaker 1: for having a something hang from your dashboard, which isn't

908
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 1: even because they're an interest in that. They just go, huh,

909
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 1: there's a high chance that this might end with something.

910
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 1: Maybe I can arrest this person, maybe I can funk

911
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 1: their day up, and should if if there, if I'm

912
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 1: lucky enough, if I can get violent, all right, let's

913
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 1: take another quick break and we'll be right back. And

914
00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 1: we're back and you know, just in kind of staying

915
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,360
Speaker 1: up to date on where we're at with COVID nineteen

916
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:07,359
Speaker 1: in the United States, it feels like nationally there's like

917
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 1: this vaccine optimism waxing. People are starting to feel a

918
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 1: new set of circumstances coming. But then there are states

919
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 1: that are seeing their numbers hit new highs, like Michigan

920
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 1: is closing on a new high for new cases, which

921
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 1: has led the CDC to suggest that they closed back

922
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:34,280
Speaker 1: down to levels that they were at like last spring

923
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 1: and over the summer, when you know, everybody was in

924
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 1: full lockdown. So it'll just be interesting to see, like

925
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 1: how how much harder it is to like pull off

926
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 1: a a shutdown locally when like the rest of the

927
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: country is, you know, when when you don't have I

928
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 1: think the most important thing we found from from the

929
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 1: pandemic is those TV ads letting us know that we're

930
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:04,359
Speaker 1: not alone and now more than ever, uh they understand yeah,

931
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 1: now more than ever each ship. But yeah, it'll be

932
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 1: you know, they're they're going to have to be like

933
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 1: localized responses that aren't necessarily matched by the rest of

934
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 1: the country, and we'll we'll see how how that goes.

935
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think maybe we're moving into the little

936
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 1: fires everywhere yea, which is kind of what I think

937
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:28,839
Speaker 1: these other waves are going to kind of look like,

938
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:35,359
Speaker 1: depending on you know, Yeah, I don't know. Man, It's

939
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 1: like it's wild to see that graph and I'm like, oh,

940
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 1: well that other Oh it is the worst time ever

941
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 1: is when the last peak was, and it's mirroring that,

942
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:47,759
Speaker 1: which is super frightening. Yeah. Unfortunately, uh, the deaths are

943
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 1: not peaking anymore because the doctors are getting better and

944
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 1: better at treating people who come in with COVID, but

945
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 1: still it's killing people like people are dying. So it's

946
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:03,240
Speaker 1: it is a problem, and I mean, god, I'm curious.

947
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 1: I hope this doesn't impact people's enthusiasm to enter healthcare

948
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 1: or medicine because you talk about you want to talk

949
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 1: about morale being fucking low fun. The police working in

950
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 1: medicine right now couldn't be more of a grim proposition

951
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 1: for something. Yeah, I've heard of physicians taking their own

952
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 1: life pretty recently than that. It seems like it's kind

953
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 1: of endemic right now. I mean, yeah, to think like

954
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 1: when you get into something to help people and then

955
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 1: your hands are tied by the speed of medicine, how

956
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 1: a government is trying to protect people or not protect

957
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 1: actually encourage people to end up we're at your place

958
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 1: of work being confused and sick and not having the

959
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 1: wherewithal to be able to help them. Like yeah, it's

960
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:55,880
Speaker 1: like it's just it's yeah, I'm hoping we're able to

961
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 1: really shout out all the essential workers after this, like

962
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:02,839
Speaker 1: truly true, But it doesn't. It feels like we're so

963
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:04,919
Speaker 1: quick to move on. Like the amount of ship I see,

964
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 1: like on the Apple News app, the things that will

965
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 1: will put at the top, it's like signs that things

966
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:12,360
Speaker 1: are getting back to normal. But it's always the Wall

967
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 1: Street Journal that is doing that ship. And I'm like,

968
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 1: no one fucking asked you, Corporo Comrag, Oh my god,

969
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 1: just shut up and make with your Wall Street tips

970
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 1: rather than all this stuff. It's like everything's gonna be okay.

971
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:29,959
Speaker 1: Here's some companies that are doing the right thing right now. Yeah,

972
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 1: please please don't don't start seeding the environment with these stories.

973
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 1: That would be like you know that that springtime is

974
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 1: here and it's time to cast away all our concerns

975
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 1: because beginning to happen very quickly. All right, let's talk

976
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 1: briefly about infrastructure. Yeah, it'd be nice to have some

977
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:52,879
Speaker 1: yeah here, alright, moving on, Yeah, that's it. That's really

978
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 1: my take, just my idea. I just read this thing

979
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 1: about France and I was like, it must be nice.

980
00:56:57,920 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 1: But you know, it's like a lot of nations are,

981
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 1: especially America, takes its sweet fucking time trying to figure

982
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 1: out how to combat CEO two emissions. There's like little

983
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 1: examples of like just small things you can do to

984
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 1: have positive outcomes, Like in France, Um, you know, when

985
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 1: they're not busy in acting just horrifically islamophobic, he job

986
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 1: laws and you know, robbing people of agency because that's

987
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 1: just not how we get down here. Uh, they are

988
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 1: really trying to figure out like a practical way to

989
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 1: combat emissions. And not that I'm just saying like, oh yes,

990
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 1: shout out to them. But there's just an example, right

991
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 1: that they have been trying to re configure in internal

992
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 1: domestic flights with by saying if there is a flight,

993
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 1: an internal domestic flight that can be covered by train

994
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 1: in under two and a half hours, we ain't doing

995
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 1: that flight anymore. We're just not doing it. It doesn't

996
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 1: make sense because then you can take a fucking train

997
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 1: because on average the plane has amidst seventy seven times

998
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 1: more CEO to per passenger than the train. So that's

999
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 1: like a little thing you can do. Oh okay, it's

1000
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 1: so wonderful, but we already got like things where like

1001
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 1: Republicans are like, oh, giving money to amtrack, right, yeah,

1002
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 1: that's what my first thought was, Like, wait, so the

1003
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 1: government's telling them to do that and they're listening without

1004
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 1: like a enormous political backlash on like a bunch of

1005
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 1: militia people like yeah, they also do ship like be

1006
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 1: like oh, Air France, you need some money. Okay, well

1007
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 1: guess who owns part of that now the government because

1008
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 1: you needed some bailout money. We're here. It's like, it's

1009
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 1: my friend. Though, It's like, well, if you were really thinking,

1010
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 1: imagine you were thinking like a businessman, if another business

1011
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 1: person came up and you say, hey, let me get along,

1012
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 1: you'd be like, okay, give me a stake in your

1013
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 1: fucking company. That's your fucking head that come up with

1014
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 1: that ownership scheme. It's not like the U. S. Government

1015
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 1: hasn't bailed out the airlines like constantly. It's just they

1016
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 1: know bad PR to nationalism. I mean exactly, that's all

1017
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 1: it is, is bad pr. It's actually good policy, and

1018
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 1: it makes for better out comes by not allowing these

1019
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 1: greedy funks to do whatever the funk they want. So anyway,

1020
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 1: along those lines, it's just saying it's stuff like this

1021
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 1: that the U. S should be thinking about more aggressively.

1022
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 1: Because the other thing is like, as much as they're like, oh,

1023
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 1: we're gonna go electric, all electric everything, it's gonna be electric.

1024
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 1: Avenue was still mainstream electrical parade that when you see

1025
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 1: our fleets coming down the street, okay, fine, but that's

1026
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 1: not Electric cars alone will not solve this crisis. Like,

1027
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 1: especially when you consider the carbon footprint for the production

1028
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 1: and transport of electric vehicles, it's not it's not like, oh,

1029
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 1: electric cycling is actually going to have to factor in

1030
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 1: on some level for us to really cut down on emissions.

1031
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 1: And I was just reading this other piece, especially looking

1032
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 1: at things happening in Europe as a result of pandemic,

1033
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 1: Like I think overall, like interest in cycling has gotten

1034
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 1: up in this country. Myself included, like I use a

1035
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 1: bike way more than I used to. But just looking

1036
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 1: at simple things like this. In this study, they found

1037
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 1: urban residents who switched from driving to cycling for just

1038
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 1: one trip per day reduced their have been footprint by

1039
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 1: about a half ton of c O two over the

1040
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 1: course of a year. And that's essentially the same as

1041
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 1: the equivalent emissions from a one way flight from London

1042
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:11,440
Speaker 1: to New York. So and if just one in five

1043
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 1: urban residents permanently changed our travel behavior in this way

1044
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 1: over the next few years, it could cut emissions of

1045
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:20,080
Speaker 1: car travel too close to eight percent, eight percent in

1046
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:24,959
Speaker 1: Europe specifically in this analysis. So like just build the bike.

1047
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 1: Like you see places that have bike lanes and you're like,

1048
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 1: oh wow, why wouldn't bike there because it's safe. L

1049
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 1: A is like fucking mad Max, Like you gotta be like, oh,

1050
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 1: I hope you're built to ride a bike in the

1051
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 1: in these streets because nobody's saving you. It's just different

1052
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 1: levels of encouragement. I think we need them. There used

1053
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 1: to be a thing at like when I worked for

1054
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 1: a tech company where they would ask you if you

1055
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 1: drove to work, and they would actually be able to

1056
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 1: enforce it because you wouldn't get a parking spot if

1057
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 1: you said that you like rode a bike to work,

1058
01:00:56,720 --> 01:01:00,120
Speaker 1: and then you would get like a tax break I

1059
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 1: think or or something. This was in l A. But

1060
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:07,120
Speaker 1: that's like, rather than going through your employer, why not

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Speaker 1: just make it so that people like can report for

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Speaker 1: riding a bike everywhere and like get get some sort

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Speaker 1: of credit that doesn't require all sorts of you know,

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Speaker 1: the the US just makes things super complicated and favoring

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Speaker 1: of employers over employees so that they don't lose the

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Speaker 1: power to the you know, so capital doesn't lose the

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Speaker 1: power to the people. Yeah, I'm just thinking like the

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Speaker 1: like even with New York, right, all the stuff that

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Speaker 1: is being proposed, like how can we reuse the street's smarter? Right?

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Speaker 1: You know, because clearly COVID led to a movement of

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Speaker 1: like reclaiming these streets for it was like public spaces

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Speaker 1: or no car spaces. And like using bikes and things

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Speaker 1: like that. To to waste that opportunity to apply that

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Speaker 1: sort of thinking across the country, it is such a

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Speaker 1: missed opportunity. And for like people like to ride bikes

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Speaker 1: in l A, which is wild, Like there's there are

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Speaker 1: many opportunities to ride your bike with groups or whatever

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Speaker 1: you can. Fucking there's like certain paths that you can take,

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Speaker 1: but it's not enough where it feels like a city

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Speaker 1: that's thinking about people who ride bicycles, and I feel

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Speaker 1: like when you're in just to give people that encouragement

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Speaker 1: would be just such a natural way where something like oh, funky,

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Speaker 1: I would love to ride in a protected bike path

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Speaker 1: rather than worrying if I'm gonna get sideswiped by a

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Speaker 1: cost goal delivery truck because nobody's looking that like just passively,

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Speaker 1: like just can't cost that much money. It can't cost

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Speaker 1: that much money, and you're damn sure not spending it

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Speaker 1: to help unhouse people. So where the what the funk

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Speaker 1: are y'all doing? And like the and COVID's lockdowns, like

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Speaker 1: nature just sort of started to blossom in this weird

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Speaker 1: way because a lot of the pollution was cut down

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Speaker 1: and so it's like, like you said, it's this missed

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Speaker 1: opportunity to be like, Okay, so this is like the

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Speaker 1: effect of us doing X, Y and Z. So then

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Speaker 1: we obviously can't keep going at that rate, But how

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Speaker 1: can we apply some of the you know, the improved

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Speaker 1: movements as negative as everything's been, the environmental improvements of

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Speaker 1: us just like not fucking with everything constantly, right, So

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Speaker 1: it's like I hope that we I am dubious, but

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Speaker 1: I do hope it will take stuff from that that

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Speaker 1: makes it disheartening. There's been some coverage of the of

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Speaker 1: that being like somewhat exaggerated, the like echo like benefits

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Speaker 1: and like the you know, dolphins have returned to the

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Speaker 1: canals of Venice. I think that was fake, but but

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Speaker 1: I think they're you know, overall, there's definitely been a

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Speaker 1: decrease in flights, decrease in you know, miles driven, and

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Speaker 1: I was I was just thinking, as as you guys

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Speaker 1: were talking about, like way things that we could take

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Speaker 1: from the pandemic. If we're allowed to just wear sweats

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Speaker 1: from now on like everywhere, it doesn't matter, then I

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Speaker 1: can ride my bike to work and not worry about

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Speaker 1: the fact that, like I sweat through three shirts. We

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Speaker 1: have to become a post drip society. Yes, thank you.

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Speaker 1: I feel like we have to move into a post

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Speaker 1: drip because the drip is you know, directly related to capitalism,

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Speaker 1: consumer capitalism, and I think if we can, if we

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Speaker 1: can move to a post drip economy of post drip society,

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Speaker 1: a lot of ills will be remedied because I think

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Speaker 1: to outwardly be able to you know, evoke your status

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Speaker 1: with your clothes is like the is the is the

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Speaker 1: first game that ship plays on you to begin sort

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Speaker 1: of rat racing towards nonsense and post drip in the

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Speaker 1: sense that I will be completely dripping and sweat and

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Speaker 1: people have to get over that. Yeah. Well, Chelsea as

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Speaker 1: always such a pleasure having you on the show. Where

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Speaker 1: can people find you and follow you? Well? Thank you both.

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Speaker 1: I always love being here, so anytime you want me back,

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Speaker 1: I just think you are both so brilliant And let's

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Speaker 1: see so Instagram at American Steria, podcast, Twitter at a

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Speaker 1: mayor Hysteria and yeah, our show covers a lot of

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Speaker 1: the stuff I talked about today, conspiracy theories, moral panics,

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Speaker 1: fantastical thinking from like a sociological perspective, So check it

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Speaker 1: out if you like the bullshit I talk about. And

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Speaker 1: thanks again, guys, Yeah, thanks. And is there a tweet

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Speaker 1: or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying.

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Speaker 1: You know what, I'm going to bring it back to

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Speaker 1: some celebrity gossip if that's cool. Um And I just

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Speaker 1: thought that this was a nice piece of news. And

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Speaker 1: the tweet is from Naya don't give a f and

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Speaker 1: it's I like mccoley culkin. He's sweet and he's been

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Speaker 1: through a lot, and I don't think he's as ugly

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Speaker 1: as people make him out to be. So I love

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Speaker 1: mcgolie Colkin. I've been rooting for this dude my whole life,

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Speaker 1: so I'm happy that he's happy. He's got a nice,

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Speaker 1: lovely child that I don't think anybody's seen yet. But

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Speaker 1: um oh, no one has seen him. Yeah. Yeah, Brenda's song.

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Speaker 1: I was just about to say, yeah she. I didn't

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Speaker 1: know they were to go there. I didn't know anything

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Speaker 1: about this, but Brenda song so famous for something. I

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01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:03,760
Speaker 1: think she's from like Disney stuff and she was in

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01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:08,000
Speaker 1: social network I know that. Yeah. But and you know,

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Speaker 1: just a happy little couple and I think he's doing

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Speaker 1: good and I wish him and her the best. I mean, yeah, Jack,

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Speaker 1: you come on, bro. You remember when we say get

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Speaker 1: ripped and watched Sweet Life of Zack and Cody right right?

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Speaker 1: Oh Brenda song yea yeah yeah. Miles, where can people

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Speaker 1: find you? What the tweet you've been enjoying? Twitter? Instagram,

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01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 1: Miles of Gray and also twitch, dot tv, slash four

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01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:35,720
Speaker 1: Twenty Day Fiance to come check us out. When we

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Speaker 1: record for Twenty Day Fiance, we were just trash reality.

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Speaker 1: You know. It's we try not to get too into

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Speaker 1: the social justice shape because it's like our time to bullshit,

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01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:47,800
Speaker 1: but inevitably we get pulled it right back in because

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Speaker 1: that's the world we're in. Um. Some tweets that I like,

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Speaker 1: first one from Dahlia Malick past guests at Dahlia and

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Speaker 1: just tweeted a parenthetical all male lineups of stand up

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01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:07,919
Speaker 1: comedy is back. Yeah, ship goes back to normal. Ship

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Speaker 1: is going back to that fucked up kind of normal.

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Speaker 1: It seems like some of the bills I've seen listening

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Speaker 1: from Andrew Nadol that Andrew Nadoll tweeting make a movie

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Speaker 1: about the t a who had to teach of Indiana

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Speaker 1: Jones classes, Yes, yes, please do what happened there? How

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Speaker 1: did he keep his job? And just all the he's

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01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:36,080
Speaker 1: just so disorganized, so disorganized, so distracted, like every time

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Speaker 1: he was in class running off to a different thing,

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Speaker 1: and like the girls were always like crushing on him,

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Speaker 1: which made me think, like that's there was like a

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Speaker 1: weird dynamic. They're just regaling them of Nazi punching stories. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but they weren't woken up back then that that would

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Speaker 1: have been that cool, you know what I mean? Like

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Speaker 1: Indiana Jones right now, like, oh my god, you were

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Speaker 1: punching Nazis in the fort He's like, yeah, you know,

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01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:03,680
Speaker 1: right back down They're like, but they have some thoughts

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01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:07,480
Speaker 1: on eugenics that my other class was just teaching me

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01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 1: rpt swell right exactly, Like yeah, exactly. Shows some of

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Speaker 1: the other professors professor Indiana Jones was taught. Who was it?

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Speaker 1: Who were his colleagues around the time. Some tweets I've

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Speaker 1: been enjoying. I just want to give a shout out

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Speaker 1: to Anna Dresen, former Cracked writer, current SNL writer. She tweeted,

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Speaker 1: genuine stupid joy to write this impossibly stupid A bit

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Speaker 1: with Bow and Yang, who is the Celine Dion of comedy.

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Speaker 1: He delivers and it's the Boe Yang's appearance on a

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Speaker 1: weekend update portraying the iceberg that sung the Titanic. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And it's so good. It's my favorite thing I've seen

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Speaker 1: on SNL in a long time. But Anna's super duper

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Speaker 1: funny and bones genius. So I wanted to shout out

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Speaker 1: Saturday Night Live. It was the hardest I've laughed at

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Speaker 1: anything on SNL in a long time. And I also

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Speaker 1: liked a tweet from Jeremy Capitlowitz, who tweeted, I literally

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Speaker 1: just fucking got that, hunk. If your horny is a

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Speaker 1: pun punk, if your horny on horn I never got that.

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Speaker 1: I took that as just a you know, a call

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Speaker 1: in response when you're on the streets. Uh. But horny.

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Speaker 1: The whatever creep in the sixties made that up for

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Speaker 1: a T shirt was onto. It was thinking two steps ahead.

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Speaker 1: I gotta tell you guys one thing really quick. I

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Speaker 1: saw on a Ram a Dodge Ram just like two

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Speaker 1: weeks ago, a bumper sticker that said Dodge the father,

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Speaker 1: Ram the Daughter, and it was like, Yeah, I was like, man,

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Speaker 1: you you're just out in the world. You always wonder

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Speaker 1: when you see people have those like aggressive ass bumper stickers.

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Speaker 1: Were like, yeah, I eat the inside of asshole. And

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Speaker 1: it's like that's the whole back of your truck window,

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Speaker 1: Like what the fun? What the the inside of asshole? Why?

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Speaker 1: You know for breakfast? Yeah, it's like this is I mean,

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Speaker 1: but you know, this is the thing I've learned. If

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Speaker 1: if you have if you have like nasty freak front,

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Speaker 1: you know people who are like for it, like yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm I eat ass. In the Republic about it,

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Speaker 1: there's like another vibe that they all like gravitate towards

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Speaker 1: or something. So it's like, oh, yeah, that's for a

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Speaker 1: different that's another world in US and the civilized this side,

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Speaker 1: we're like, oh no. But to with the ask goblins,

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Speaker 1: They're like, yeah, I'm all for ass eating bumper stickers.

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Speaker 1: But ones where it's like I like to have sex

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Speaker 1: with young women and not tell their fathers. That's a

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Speaker 1: little uh weird. It's a little country music, pop pop country.

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Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore Brian.

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Speaker 1: You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeke Guys

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Speaker 1: for at The Daily zy Guys on Instagram. We have

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Speaker 1: a Facebook fan page and website Daily zy Guys dot

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Speaker 1: com where we post our episodes and our footnotes, which

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Speaker 1: is where we link off to the information that we

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Speaker 1: talked about today. We also link off to a song

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Speaker 1: that we think you should go check out for your vibes,

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Speaker 1: the information for your brain, the song for your vibes, Miles,

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Speaker 1: what song should people take in to day? Info for

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Speaker 1: your brain and songs for your vibes? This will be

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Speaker 1: wow wow, wow wow. This is going to actually be

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Speaker 1: uh like a little bit of Missy Elliott remix. Okay,

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Speaker 1: and you're gonna have to listen because it's just gonna

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Speaker 1: like Missy camp miss but a modern day remix by

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Speaker 1: Kayla Maestro is going to take it to the next level.

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Speaker 1: And this tracks called b m O two thousand one

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Speaker 1: stands for break Missy Off and it's by k Maestro

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Speaker 1: and you're gonna get it on SoundCloud or just check

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01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:06,479
Speaker 1: the foot notes for that link. Yeah, alright, we'll go

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Speaker 1: check that out. The Daily Zeygeist the production of iHeart Radio.

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Speaker 1: your favorite shows that is going to do it for

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Speaker 1: this morning, and we're back this afternoon to tell you

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