WEBVTT - Why “Native Land Pod"? | MiniPod

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<v Speaker 1>Native Lampod is a production of iHeartRadio and partnership with

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<v Speaker 1>Recent Choice Media.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey everybody, it's Angela Rai.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, I joined my co hosts Tiffany Cross and

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<v Speaker 3>Andrew Gillim every single Thursday for Native Lampod, where we

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<v Speaker 3>welcome you home. One of our favorite things in Native

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<v Speaker 3>Lampod is the number of listener and viewer questions we

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<v Speaker 3>get every week. One thing that's come up quite a

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<v Speaker 3>bit every single week in our social media comments and

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<v Speaker 3>in some questions is why the name Native Lampod. It's

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<v Speaker 3>something that's been deeply inspiring to all of us, and

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<v Speaker 3>in fact, during our promo clips, we spend a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of time talking about what native Lampod means to us.

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<v Speaker 3>So this week we had a question come in from

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<v Speaker 3>Chris who asked us about Native Lampod, and we're taking

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<v Speaker 3>this opportunity to make sure we do a deep dive

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<v Speaker 3>with you all. We can't wait to hear your response.

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<v Speaker 3>We'd love to know what the native Lampod means to

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<v Speaker 3>all of you.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome home.

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<v Speaker 3>Able to Chris Flow this video submission for y'all.

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<v Speaker 4>Question for y'all, I'll keep it short. Where did you

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<v Speaker 4>get the name Native Land Podcast. What does it mean

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<v Speaker 4>to be native to you? We could have chosen from

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<v Speaker 4>any number of names, numbers themes out there. Tell me

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<v Speaker 4>in your own opinion why Native Land as a theme

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<v Speaker 4>and the topic and the title of this show.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I thank y'all know I don't like to do

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<v Speaker 3>anything shallow, So for me, this has a really deep meaning.

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<v Speaker 3>When I thought of Native Land, I thought about James

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<v Speaker 3>Weldon Johnson and the Black National Anthem and the fact

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<v Speaker 3>that I will never stand for another national anthem. But

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<v Speaker 3>in that Black National Anthem, and the last stands in

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<v Speaker 3>the third verse, it says true to our God, true

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<v Speaker 3>to our Native Land. When I think about you all

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<v Speaker 3>as my friends, my brother, my sister.

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<v Speaker 2>Truth tellers, I deeply respect.

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<v Speaker 3>True to our Native Land means we can pay homage

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<v Speaker 3>to the ancestors who were kidnapped from our native land,

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<v Speaker 3>and we're brought here to build something that we still

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<v Speaker 3>have yet to truly benefit from, and we still stand

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<v Speaker 3>on Native Land paying homage to the indigenous folks who

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<v Speaker 3>built this place, who welcome people in, who didn't necessarily

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<v Speaker 3>treat them with kindness. That's an understatement, but that's what

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<v Speaker 3>I think of. There's a double entendre there, and to me,

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<v Speaker 3>it makes me think of that James Baldwin moment when

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<v Speaker 3>he talks about what real patriotism is. Because we are patriots,

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<v Speaker 3>we have every right to question every single aspect of

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<v Speaker 3>our native land.

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<v Speaker 1>It's interesting Antelas says that because when she first told

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<v Speaker 1>me the title to get my opinion about it, I

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<v Speaker 1>took a different perspective and that we are creating a

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<v Speaker 1>native land because no matter how they make us feel,

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<v Speaker 1>this is our home. And I know my entire career

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<v Speaker 1>I have felt homeless, like the news media has always

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<v Speaker 1>made me feel mostly unwelcome or displaced, you know, in

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<v Speaker 1>a space that if I were ever speaking a truth

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<v Speaker 1>or speaking to the rising majority of this country, it

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<v Speaker 1>was taken as controversial or as something subpar. And even

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<v Speaker 1>what we consider biased or unbiased is all based on

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<v Speaker 1>what's rooted in white and male. And so this podcast

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<v Speaker 1>is a native land for people to come. You have

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<v Speaker 1>a home here, no matter what you look like, no

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<v Speaker 1>matter where you come from. Here we create space for

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<v Speaker 1>you and everybody's welcome.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. I love that. I You know, all of us

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<v Speaker 4>have had our work experience on major platforms, you know

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<v Speaker 4>names that will be recognized around around the globe. And

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<v Speaker 4>even in those spaces, while we were invited to offer

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<v Speaker 4>our opinions and perspectives and analysis, always felt in many

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<v Speaker 4>ways curated. Even still it was curated by the wrap

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<v Speaker 4>it up. It was curated by the fifteen seconds. It

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<v Speaker 4>was rated by you know, you're the progressive on the panel,

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<v Speaker 4>and so bring that perspective, even if the topic may

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<v Speaker 4>have been more nuanced than one of a political ideology

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<v Speaker 4>or perspective, and so you know, the the the the title,

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<v Speaker 4>the theme, the the titling of the show. Native Land

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<v Speaker 4>UH to me is less about a physical edifice UH

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<v Speaker 4>and more like translating these airwaves, translating the way in

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<v Speaker 4>which we're communicating to our audience and then back to

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<v Speaker 4>us as a space that doesn't have to be validated,

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<v Speaker 4>that doesn't need anybody sign off that it is ours.

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<v Speaker 4>It's our quest, you know, our desire to move toward

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<v Speaker 4>the more perfect, how we define it. I'm excited by

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<v Speaker 4>the the idea of native land by one yes, paying

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<v Speaker 4>homage if we were to think about it in the

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<v Speaker 4>physical to uh, to the lands that we set on

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<v Speaker 4>that were rob that we're taking, the were brutally stolen,

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<v Speaker 4>but also a reclamation of this space as ours, not

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<v Speaker 4>belonging to anyone else, not being curated by anyone else

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<v Speaker 4>other than ourselves, true to our beliefs, our ideals, and

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<v Speaker 4>frankly welcoming to people who are just like us out there,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, scavenging through, just trying to make it, have opinions,

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<v Speaker 4>not experts at everything, but offering up what they believe

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<v Speaker 4>and guess what if it's their lived experience and their truth,

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<v Speaker 4>it deserves some platform for airing, and I look forward

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<v Speaker 4>to us being able to do that on this platform.

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<v Speaker 1>Well home, yeah, welcome home. What you said made me

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<v Speaker 1>think about the current existing landscape of news media and

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<v Speaker 1>some I'm curious to hear from my co host here

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<v Speaker 1>in your opinion, Andrew, who is the mainstream media made for?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I mean, if we if we were to just assess,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, the mainstream media by its approach to most things,

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<v Speaker 4>complicated issues to the simple, I think it's theater and

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<v Speaker 4>large part, I think it plays a lot of times

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<v Speaker 4>to consumerism. I think the bottom line matters there more

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<v Speaker 4>than anyone ever says, and and by and large I

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<v Speaker 4>think it plays to frighten a majority. It causes a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of angst. I mean when I'm at family, it's funny.

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<v Speaker 4>We were all together for Thanksgiving, my family, and almost

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<v Speaker 4>to a person, people are like, I don't even want

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<v Speaker 4>to turn on the news anymore. I know there's nothing

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<v Speaker 4>good there. And I just found it interesting having been

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<v Speaker 4>part of that community before, of of of communicating to

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<v Speaker 4>people over airwaves, it just struck me that to a person,

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<v Speaker 4>people found their peace and their solace, their joy, and

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<v Speaker 4>their happiness away from hearing from mainstream news. So what

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<v Speaker 4>kind of news could you be if you repel otherwise decent, caring,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, thoughtful people, and that their escape defying peace

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<v Speaker 4>in their lives or joy in their lives, is to

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<v Speaker 4>not pay attention to the news. That's a sad state

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<v Speaker 4>of affairs when we think about it. But if that's

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<v Speaker 4>the experience of every person, to a person, you gotta

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<v Speaker 4>believe that it's not accidental that the news is being

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<v Speaker 4>communicated to us in that way.

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<v Speaker 2>It's definitely not accidental.

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<v Speaker 3>I can say that I'm one of them, like, I

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<v Speaker 3>cannot watch the news regularly. Cable news programming is just

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<v Speaker 3>too much. I got some of my friends shout out

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<v Speaker 3>the joy, you know, who will watch it. We still

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<v Speaker 3>watch a joy, but I am I can't watch a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of it.

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<v Speaker 2>It is repulsive.

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<v Speaker 3>It is frustrating when I think about many of the

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<v Speaker 3>segments that we were on, you know, like we're set

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<v Speaker 3>up for more combat and it's exhausting, and so then

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<v Speaker 3>you're supposed to go home and be your partner's piece

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<v Speaker 3>and be and it's just really hard. So when I

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<v Speaker 3>think about who the news is made for, I think about,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, folks who have a hard time developing their

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<v Speaker 3>own opinion and are easily taking advantage of, easily manipulated.

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<v Speaker 3>It's almost like the same folks who watch QBC commercials, right,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean, Like they can package it

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<v Speaker 3>in any way and sell it to you, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>tell you, tell you it's raining, and they're pissing on you,

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<v Speaker 3>like it really is. It's just too much and it's

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<v Speaker 3>exhausting to watch. Like I get the same feeling watching

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<v Speaker 3>the news tip that I did what I used to

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<v Speaker 3>like consume love and hip hop or basketball, wives and

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<v Speaker 3>no shade to some of all of my friends.

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<v Speaker 2>But I watched one day, I did like a marathon

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<v Speaker 2>chaw I got it. I said, Oh, I feel.

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<v Speaker 3>Dirty Wow, it's the same way I feel watching any

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<v Speaker 3>cable news did not matter for it's progressive, midstream or conservative.

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<v Speaker 2>It really doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 4>It's the wind up machine.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think you feel that way because it is

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<v Speaker 1>a different version of reality TV, except it is not

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<v Speaker 1>our reality. So I think the news just go one

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<v Speaker 1>step further and say the news is made for the

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<v Speaker 1>comfort of white people. That is who is centered. That

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<v Speaker 1>is the audience they want to curate. Your average cable

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<v Speaker 1>news viewers between sixty two and sixty five and white

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<v Speaker 1>and male. And so when programmers look at what the

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<v Speaker 1>content for that day, that is who they're talking to,

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<v Speaker 1>which is baffling to me because you are speaking to

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<v Speaker 1>a shrinking demographic and completely ignoring a growing demographic. We

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<v Speaker 1>are the rising majority of this country, and yet when

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<v Speaker 1>we show up on air to speak an honest truth

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<v Speaker 1>in ways how we communicate, it is not accepted. It's

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<v Speaker 1>considered controversial until the white boy says it's okay to

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<v Speaker 1>do so if we speak in our vernacular, when we

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<v Speaker 1>use the way that we talk, it is not okay,

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<v Speaker 1>And so the white boy does it, and then it's fun.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't quote quote rap lyrics, but they can. We

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<v Speaker 1>can't talk about what happens in our life. I'm talking

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<v Speaker 1>to the truth. We say we going to be the

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<v Speaker 1>truth on this podcast, I'm speaking truth. We cannot talk

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<v Speaker 1>about make references. You know, if I say something that

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<v Speaker 1>is something that we all understand, right, a colloquial reference

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<v Speaker 1>that is specific to our community, it's not okay. And

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<v Speaker 1>I would always have to say, well, if you don't

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<v Speaker 1>get it, it ain't for you. That's right, the same

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<v Speaker 1>way I don't always get your country music reference or

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<v Speaker 1>your roll and Tide reference. That ain't for me. I

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<v Speaker 1>should get to talk to the rise and majority of

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<v Speaker 1>this country and make them feel seen. And so obviously

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<v Speaker 1>I have a personal testimony sure that I for sure

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<v Speaker 1>know it doesn't matter what the cable news executive looks like.

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<v Speaker 1>The position they are there to uphold is that is

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<v Speaker 1>the comfort of life?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's it's the matrix, right, just insert whomever. Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>But the system is programmed to operate a particular way

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<v Speaker 4>and produce a particular result. And this is why I

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<v Speaker 4>think we have to be really careful when we start

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<v Speaker 4>lifting up and edifying sort of these individuals as first

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<v Speaker 4>and and and the like. And I get the symbolic

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<v Speaker 4>reference and I and it does make me symbolically, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>proud to have someone exhibited that my daughter or my

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<v Speaker 4>son or I myself might be able to see. But

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<v Speaker 4>then we have to go layers deep to understand, like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>are you a disruptor? In what way are you changing

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<v Speaker 4>this thing so that we're we're not caricatures.

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<v Speaker 1>The problem for sure, and that is the difference, right

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<v Speaker 1>getting a black face that is going to carry the

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<v Speaker 1>voice as a white folks doesn't do anything for the community.

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<v Speaker 4>Or continue to marginalize, you know, communities that have previously

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<v Speaker 4>been violated, have been put in boxes, have been reduced

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<v Speaker 4>to nothingness. If if your existence here is only to

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<v Speaker 4>perpetuate that, not to disrupt it, not to break it

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<v Speaker 4>so it can forever be broken, but to rather, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>continue to expand the bottom line and make you know,

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<v Speaker 4>those nice you know, because she's suits happy. Then you're

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<v Speaker 4>not of service, You're useless, You're not a service.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know where we are going to be as

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<v Speaker 2>services right here. And that's one of.

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<v Speaker 3>The reasons why I'm excited about this podcast. I want

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<v Speaker 3>to know Tiff from you first, why are you excited

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<v Speaker 3>about this podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm excited about this podcast because I get to do

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<v Speaker 1>this with my friends, who I've known a long time.

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<v Speaker 2>People think we met in media. We did not, let me.

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<v Speaker 1>All have known each other long before we were all

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<v Speaker 1>in front of a camera exactly. So it's really nice

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<v Speaker 1>to show up here and one be in a space

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<v Speaker 1>where we feel welcomed. Two I'm excited about this because

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<v Speaker 1>our words and our truth will not be policed. I

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<v Speaker 1>was exhausted with having my words policed, or having the

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<v Speaker 1>fight even to talk, you know, to talk about issues

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<v Speaker 1>that were significant to so to millions of people across

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<v Speaker 1>this country, and having to defend and define my humanity

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<v Speaker 1>every week. It's so relaxing to show up in a

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<v Speaker 1>place where I don't have to do either of those things.

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<v Speaker 1>We can skip past all that and just get to

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<v Speaker 1>conversations of substance. But also to keep it a buck.

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<v Speaker 1>Conversation sends us some foolishness too, you know. We have

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<v Speaker 1>a good time with each other. So yeah, I'm most

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<v Speaker 1>excited about that, and.

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<v Speaker 4>All of that could exist like in one place. I

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<v Speaker 4>hate this idea that if the world out there is serious,

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<v Speaker 4>that the only thing you can bring back to the

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<v Speaker 4>world is serious, right, And it's not a reduction to

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<v Speaker 4>the fact that there are real, serious, consequential things going on.

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<v Speaker 4>But by goodness, we come from generations of folks who

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<v Speaker 4>had to find joy in the smallest of places because

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<v Speaker 4>the world wasn't offering it to them. There every day

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<v Speaker 4>was torture us, it was labor, it was work. There

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<v Speaker 4>were no days off. Even your faith was curated to you, right,

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<v Speaker 4>it was brought to you by sponsored by massa in

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<v Speaker 4>them right, And so folks had define moments where you

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<v Speaker 4>could appreciate being alive and around the people you know,

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<v Speaker 4>who you love, the fact that you are whole folks.

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<v Speaker 4>You're not just a employee of somebody. If I'm bringing

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<v Speaker 4>it to current day, we're nobody's employee, we're nobody's employer.

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<v Speaker 4>Or exclusively, we're mothers, we're fathers, we're brothers, siblings, where

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<v Speaker 4>niece's nephews, so on and so forth, and that's okay.

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<v Speaker 4>And in each of those places we bring a different side,

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<v Speaker 4>a different side of ourselves are allowed to live and breathe.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm hopeful that I'm excited that we don't have

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<v Speaker 4>to check any part of who we are at the door,

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<v Speaker 4>uh before we walk in and take these mics, that

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<v Speaker 4>we can show up fully that I don't have to

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<v Speaker 4>apologize for any part of myself and in and in

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<v Speaker 4>and in life. If we really are in pursuit of,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, true liberation, that's exactly how it ought to go.

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<v Speaker 4>We shouldn't have to look over our shoulder and apologize

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<v Speaker 4>and make excuse for lament or feel the the the

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<v Speaker 4>weight of imposter syndrome when you're when you're home. And

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<v Speaker 4>so we're creating a different kind of home and hopefully

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<v Speaker 4>moving people closer toward this, you know, this way of thinking,

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<v Speaker 4>rather than this very myopic way in which the world

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<v Speaker 4>right now requires us to exist.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm excited because you all agreed to do this. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>excited because I know from walking with y'all down the

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<v Speaker 3>street how much your voices mean to our people and

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<v Speaker 3>to a lot of folks who don't look like us

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<v Speaker 3>but just felt resonance with you because of your authenticity.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm very grateful.

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<v Speaker 3>I think my excitement is coupled with gratitude because I

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<v Speaker 3>know that there is a space for this in the

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<v Speaker 3>hearts and minds of so many, including my own, and

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<v Speaker 3>I look forward to everyfreshing, authentic political conversation where we

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<v Speaker 3>can chop it up legitimately, not because we're trying to

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<v Speaker 3>go viral, but because we really are trying to solve

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<v Speaker 3>some of the toughest problems, and y'all have always been

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<v Speaker 3>that way, So thank you for being problem solvers and

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<v Speaker 3>being willing to do it on the record on air.

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<v Speaker 4>As a Native Land I S Get It s Get

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<v Speaker 4>It family.

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