1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Native Lampod is a production of iHeartRadio and partnership with 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: Recent Choice Media. 3 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 2: Hey everybody, it's Angela Rai. 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 3: Of course, I joined my co hosts Tiffany Cross and 5 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 3: Andrew Gillim every single Thursday for Native Lampod, where we 6 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 3: welcome you home. One of our favorite things in Native 7 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 3: Lampod is the number of listener and viewer questions we 8 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 3: get every week. One thing that's come up quite a 9 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 3: bit every single week in our social media comments and 10 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 3: in some questions is why the name Native Lampod. It's 11 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 3: something that's been deeply inspiring to all of us, and 12 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 3: in fact, during our promo clips, we spend a lot 13 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 3: of time talking about what native Lampod means to us. 14 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 3: So this week we had a question come in from 15 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 3: Chris who asked us about Native Lampod, and we're taking 16 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 3: this opportunity to make sure we do a deep dive 17 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 3: with you all. We can't wait to hear your response. 18 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 3: We'd love to know what the native Lampod means to 19 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 3: all of you. 20 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 2: Welcome home. 21 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 3: Able to Chris Flow this video submission for y'all. 22 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 4: Question for y'all, I'll keep it short. Where did you 23 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 4: get the name Native Land Podcast. What does it mean 24 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 4: to be native to you? We could have chosen from 25 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 4: any number of names, numbers themes out there. Tell me 26 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 4: in your own opinion why Native Land as a theme 27 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 4: and the topic and the title of this show. 28 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 3: Well, I thank y'all know I don't like to do 29 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 3: anything shallow, So for me, this has a really deep meaning. 30 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 3: When I thought of Native Land, I thought about James 31 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 3: Weldon Johnson and the Black National Anthem and the fact 32 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 3: that I will never stand for another national anthem. But 33 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 3: in that Black National Anthem, and the last stands in 34 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 3: the third verse, it says true to our God, true 35 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 3: to our Native Land. When I think about you all 36 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 3: as my friends, my brother, my sister. 37 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 2: Truth tellers, I deeply respect. 38 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 3: True to our Native Land means we can pay homage 39 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 3: to the ancestors who were kidnapped from our native land, 40 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 3: and we're brought here to build something that we still 41 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 3: have yet to truly benefit from, and we still stand 42 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 3: on Native Land paying homage to the indigenous folks who 43 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 3: built this place, who welcome people in, who didn't necessarily 44 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 3: treat them with kindness. That's an understatement, but that's what 45 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 3: I think of. There's a double entendre there, and to me, 46 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 3: it makes me think of that James Baldwin moment when 47 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 3: he talks about what real patriotism is. Because we are patriots, 48 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 3: we have every right to question every single aspect of 49 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 3: our native land. 50 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: It's interesting Antelas says that because when she first told 51 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: me the title to get my opinion about it, I 52 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: took a different perspective and that we are creating a 53 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 1: native land because no matter how they make us feel, 54 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: this is our home. And I know my entire career 55 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: I have felt homeless, like the news media has always 56 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: made me feel mostly unwelcome or displaced, you know, in 57 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 1: a space that if I were ever speaking a truth 58 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 1: or speaking to the rising majority of this country, it 59 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: was taken as controversial or as something subpar. And even 60 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,239 Speaker 1: what we consider biased or unbiased is all based on 61 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: what's rooted in white and male. And so this podcast 62 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: is a native land for people to come. You have 63 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: a home here, no matter what you look like, no 64 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: matter where you come from. Here we create space for 65 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: you and everybody's welcome. 66 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. I love that. I You know, all of us 67 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 4: have had our work experience on major platforms, you know 68 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 4: names that will be recognized around around the globe. And 69 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 4: even in those spaces, while we were invited to offer 70 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 4: our opinions and perspectives and analysis, always felt in many 71 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 4: ways curated. Even still it was curated by the wrap 72 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 4: it up. It was curated by the fifteen seconds. It 73 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 4: was rated by you know, you're the progressive on the panel, 74 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 4: and so bring that perspective, even if the topic may 75 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 4: have been more nuanced than one of a political ideology 76 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 4: or perspective, and so you know, the the the the title, 77 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 4: the theme, the the titling of the show. Native Land 78 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 4: UH to me is less about a physical edifice UH 79 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 4: and more like translating these airwaves, translating the way in 80 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 4: which we're communicating to our audience and then back to 81 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 4: us as a space that doesn't have to be validated, 82 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 4: that doesn't need anybody sign off that it is ours. 83 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 4: It's our quest, you know, our desire to move toward 84 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 4: the more perfect, how we define it. I'm excited by 85 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 4: the the idea of native land by one yes, paying 86 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 4: homage if we were to think about it in the 87 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 4: physical to uh, to the lands that we set on 88 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 4: that were rob that we're taking, the were brutally stolen, 89 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 4: but also a reclamation of this space as ours, not 90 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 4: belonging to anyone else, not being curated by anyone else 91 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 4: other than ourselves, true to our beliefs, our ideals, and 92 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 4: frankly welcoming to people who are just like us out there, 93 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:27,799 Speaker 4: you know, scavenging through, just trying to make it, have opinions, 94 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 4: not experts at everything, but offering up what they believe 95 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 4: and guess what if it's their lived experience and their truth, 96 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 4: it deserves some platform for airing, and I look forward 97 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 4: to us being able to do that on this platform. 98 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: Well home, yeah, welcome home. What you said made me 99 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 1: think about the current existing landscape of news media and 100 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: some I'm curious to hear from my co host here 101 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: in your opinion, Andrew, who is the mainstream media made for? 102 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 4: Well, I mean, if we if we were to just assess, 103 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 4: you know, the mainstream media by its approach to most things, 104 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 4: complicated issues to the simple, I think it's theater and 105 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 4: large part, I think it plays a lot of times 106 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 4: to consumerism. I think the bottom line matters there more 107 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 4: than anyone ever says, and and by and large I 108 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 4: think it plays to frighten a majority. It causes a 109 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 4: lot of angst. I mean when I'm at family, it's funny. 110 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 4: We were all together for Thanksgiving, my family, and almost 111 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 4: to a person, people are like, I don't even want 112 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 4: to turn on the news anymore. I know there's nothing 113 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 4: good there. And I just found it interesting having been 114 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 4: part of that community before, of of of communicating to 115 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 4: people over airwaves, it just struck me that to a person, 116 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 4: people found their peace and their solace, their joy, and 117 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 4: their happiness away from hearing from mainstream news. So what 118 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 4: kind of news could you be if you repel otherwise decent, caring, 119 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 4: you know, thoughtful people, and that their escape defying peace 120 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 4: in their lives or joy in their lives, is to 121 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 4: not pay attention to the news. That's a sad state 122 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 4: of affairs when we think about it. But if that's 123 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 4: the experience of every person, to a person, you gotta 124 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 4: believe that it's not accidental that the news is being 125 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 4: communicated to us in that way. 126 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 2: It's definitely not accidental. 127 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 3: I can say that I'm one of them, like, I 128 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 3: cannot watch the news regularly. Cable news programming is just 129 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 3: too much. I got some of my friends shout out 130 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 3: the joy, you know, who will watch it. We still 131 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 3: watch a joy, but I am I can't watch a 132 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 3: lot of it. 133 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 2: It is repulsive. 134 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 3: It is frustrating when I think about many of the 135 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 3: segments that we were on, you know, like we're set 136 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 3: up for more combat and it's exhausting, and so then 137 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 3: you're supposed to go home and be your partner's piece 138 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 3: and be and it's just really hard. So when I 139 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 3: think about who the news is made for, I think about, 140 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 3: you know, folks who have a hard time developing their 141 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 3: own opinion and are easily taking advantage of, easily manipulated. 142 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 3: It's almost like the same folks who watch QBC commercials, right, 143 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like they can package it 144 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 3: in any way and sell it to you, you know, 145 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 3: tell you, tell you it's raining, and they're pissing on you, 146 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 3: like it really is. It's just too much and it's 147 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 3: exhausting to watch. Like I get the same feeling watching 148 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 3: the news tip that I did what I used to 149 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 3: like consume love and hip hop or basketball, wives and 150 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 3: no shade to some of all of my friends. 151 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 2: But I watched one day, I did like a marathon 152 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 2: chaw I got it. I said, Oh, I feel. 153 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 3: Dirty Wow, it's the same way I feel watching any 154 00:08:56,160 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 3: cable news did not matter for it's progressive, midstream or conservative. 155 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 2: It really doesn't matter. 156 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 4: It's the wind up machine. 157 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 158 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: Well, I think you feel that way because it is 159 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: a different version of reality TV, except it is not 160 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: our reality. So I think the news just go one 161 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: step further and say the news is made for the 162 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: comfort of white people. That is who is centered. That 163 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: is the audience they want to curate. Your average cable 164 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: news viewers between sixty two and sixty five and white 165 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: and male. And so when programmers look at what the 166 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 1: content for that day, that is who they're talking to, 167 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: which is baffling to me because you are speaking to 168 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: a shrinking demographic and completely ignoring a growing demographic. We 169 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: are the rising majority of this country, and yet when 170 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: we show up on air to speak an honest truth 171 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,839 Speaker 1: in ways how we communicate, it is not accepted. It's 172 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 1: considered controversial until the white boy says it's okay to 173 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 1: do so if we speak in our vernacular, when we 174 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: use the way that we talk, it is not okay, 175 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: And so the white boy does it, and then it's fun. 176 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: We can't quote quote rap lyrics, but they can. We 177 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: can't talk about what happens in our life. I'm talking 178 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: to the truth. We say we going to be the 179 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 1: truth on this podcast, I'm speaking truth. We cannot talk 180 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: about make references. You know, if I say something that 181 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: is something that we all understand, right, a colloquial reference 182 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,599 Speaker 1: that is specific to our community, it's not okay. And 183 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: I would always have to say, well, if you don't 184 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: get it, it ain't for you. That's right, the same 185 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: way I don't always get your country music reference or 186 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: your roll and Tide reference. That ain't for me. I 187 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:27,959 Speaker 1: should get to talk to the rise and majority of 188 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: this country and make them feel seen. And so obviously 189 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: I have a personal testimony sure that I for sure 190 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 1: know it doesn't matter what the cable news executive looks like. 191 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: The position they are there to uphold is that is 192 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: the comfort of life? 193 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's the matrix, right, just insert whomever. Yes, 194 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 4: But the system is programmed to operate a particular way 195 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:54,079 Speaker 4: and produce a particular result. And this is why I 196 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 4: think we have to be really careful when we start 197 00:10:56,320 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 4: lifting up and edifying sort of these individuals as first 198 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 4: and and and the like. And I get the symbolic 199 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 4: reference and I and it does make me symbolically, you know, 200 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 4: proud to have someone exhibited that my daughter or my 201 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 4: son or I myself might be able to see. But 202 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 4: then we have to go layers deep to understand, like, Okay, 203 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 4: are you a disruptor? In what way are you changing 204 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 4: this thing so that we're we're not caricatures. 205 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: The problem for sure, and that is the difference, right 206 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: getting a black face that is going to carry the 207 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: voice as a white folks doesn't do anything for the community. 208 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 4: Or continue to marginalize, you know, communities that have previously 209 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 4: been violated, have been put in boxes, have been reduced 210 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 4: to nothingness. If if your existence here is only to 211 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 4: perpetuate that, not to disrupt it, not to break it 212 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 4: so it can forever be broken, but to rather, you know, 213 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 4: continue to expand the bottom line and make you know, 214 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 4: those nice you know, because she's suits happy. Then you're 215 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 4: not of service, You're useless, You're not a service. 216 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 2: But you know where we are going to be as 217 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 2: services right here. And that's one of. 218 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 3: The reasons why I'm excited about this podcast. I want 219 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 3: to know Tiff from you first, why are you excited 220 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 3: about this podcast. 221 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: I'm excited about this podcast because I get to do 222 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: this with my friends, who I've known a long time. 223 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 2: People think we met in media. We did not, let me. 224 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: All have known each other long before we were all 225 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: in front of a camera exactly. So it's really nice 226 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: to show up here and one be in a space 227 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 1: where we feel welcomed. Two I'm excited about this because 228 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: our words and our truth will not be policed. I 229 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: was exhausted with having my words policed, or having the 230 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: fight even to talk, you know, to talk about issues 231 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 1: that were significant to so to millions of people across 232 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: this country, and having to defend and define my humanity 233 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: every week. It's so relaxing to show up in a 234 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: place where I don't have to do either of those things. 235 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: We can skip past all that and just get to 236 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: conversations of substance. But also to keep it a buck. 237 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: Conversation sends us some foolishness too, you know. We have 238 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 1: a good time with each other. So yeah, I'm most 239 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: excited about that, and. 240 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 4: All of that could exist like in one place. I 241 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 4: hate this idea that if the world out there is serious, 242 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 4: that the only thing you can bring back to the 243 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 4: world is serious, right, And it's not a reduction to 244 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:23,439 Speaker 4: the fact that there are real, serious, consequential things going on. 245 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 4: But by goodness, we come from generations of folks who 246 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 4: had to find joy in the smallest of places because 247 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 4: the world wasn't offering it to them. There every day 248 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 4: was torture us, it was labor, it was work. There 249 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 4: were no days off. Even your faith was curated to you, right, 250 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 4: it was brought to you by sponsored by massa in 251 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 4: them right, And so folks had define moments where you 252 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 4: could appreciate being alive and around the people you know, 253 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:59,079 Speaker 4: who you love, the fact that you are whole folks. 254 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 4: You're not just a employee of somebody. If I'm bringing 255 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 4: it to current day, we're nobody's employee, we're nobody's employer. 256 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 4: Or exclusively, we're mothers, we're fathers, we're brothers, siblings, where 257 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 4: niece's nephews, so on and so forth, and that's okay. 258 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 4: And in each of those places we bring a different side, 259 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 4: a different side of ourselves are allowed to live and breathe. 260 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 4: And I'm hopeful that I'm excited that we don't have 261 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 4: to check any part of who we are at the door, 262 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 4: uh before we walk in and take these mics, that 263 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 4: we can show up fully that I don't have to 264 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 4: apologize for any part of myself and in and in 265 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 4: and in life. If we really are in pursuit of, 266 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 4: you know, true liberation, that's exactly how it ought to go. 267 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 4: We shouldn't have to look over our shoulder and apologize 268 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 4: and make excuse for lament or feel the the the 269 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 4: weight of imposter syndrome when you're when you're home. And 270 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 4: so we're creating a different kind of home and hopefully 271 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 4: moving people closer toward this, you know, this way of thinking, 272 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 4: rather than this very myopic way in which the world 273 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 4: right now requires us to exist. 274 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 3: I'm excited because you all agreed to do this. I'm 275 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 3: excited because I know from walking with y'all down the 276 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 3: street how much your voices mean to our people and 277 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 3: to a lot of folks who don't look like us 278 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 3: but just felt resonance with you because of your authenticity. 279 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 2: So I'm very grateful. 280 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 3: I think my excitement is coupled with gratitude because I 281 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 3: know that there is a space for this in the 282 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 3: hearts and minds of so many, including my own, and 283 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 3: I look forward to everyfreshing, authentic political conversation where we 284 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 3: can chop it up legitimately, not because we're trying to 285 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 3: go viral, but because we really are trying to solve 286 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 3: some of the toughest problems, and y'all have always been 287 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 3: that way, So thank you for being problem solvers and 288 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 3: being willing to do it on the record on air. 289 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 4: As a Native Land I S Get It s Get 290 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 4: It family. 291 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: Native Land Pod is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership 292 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: with reisent Choice Media. 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