1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: And That's what you Really missed with Jenna. 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 2: And Kevin an iHeartRadio podcast. 3 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to and That's what You Really miss podcast. It's 4 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 1: recap day and we are here to shout from the 5 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: press and the rooftops and all the fire escapes that 6 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: Newsy's is here seize the day. 7 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 2: Oh, we're seizing the day. 8 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: Ah. We're very excited to do this. I have an 9 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: interesting view of rewatching this for this podcast, which we'll 10 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: talk about. 11 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 2: Interesting. Okay, So Newsy's was very formative in both of 12 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 2: our childhoods, definitely and have nothing but fond, fond memories of. 13 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: It, as was Christian Bale. 14 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 2: I mean, just the cutest. 15 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: I'm my hero. 16 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 2: So this movie came out in April had nineteen ninety two. 17 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, it was a really formative time in 18 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 2: pop culture because the number one song was Saved the 19 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 2: Best for Last by Vanessa Williams. 20 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, best number one song ever. 21 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 2: I mean, the number one movie was Basic Instincts. 22 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:21,759 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Michael Douglas like what happened to Caylers? 23 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 2: You know? 24 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: I mean, okay, So pop culture in nineteen ninety two, 25 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: pop music was in the middle of a tonal shift. 26 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: So we had grunge, alternative rock, you know, Nirvana, and 27 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: then we also had Boys to Men and obviously the 28 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: one and only Vanessa Williams very. 29 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean on TV it was Seinfeld, Fresh, 30 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 2: Prince nine, O two one O, like what a time. 31 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 2: Oh yeah. These were all gigantic things, and obviously it's 32 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 2: when we were growing upisodes to us, But I feel 33 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 2: like we're still in like the after effects of all 34 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 2: of these things, like everything else No. 35 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 3: Two and Oho changed, Yeah yeah, rocked our world right, 36 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:13,519 Speaker 3: like a shift, a huge cultural shift in not a 37 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 3: world and continues to yes. 38 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 2: Yes, like Boys to Men changed music, Nirvana changed music, 39 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 2: Fresh Prince like it started will Smith's hold, gigantic career, 40 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 2: Seinfeld and acting in Seinfeld. Obviously classic comedy on TV 41 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 2: has never been the same, right, So all of these 42 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 2: things were not just like cultural touchstones for the moment, 43 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 2: but I feel like they've had lasting impact on all 44 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 2: the things that came after. 45 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: This is funny because I was only six or six 46 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: at the time. 47 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 2: I was four, Oh my gosh. 48 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: And yet I'm reading this fashion was shifting away from 49 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:55,959 Speaker 1: flashy eighties glam into a more grunge influenced. Look, we're 50 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: talking about data, unlayering, combat boots over stys to luettes, 51 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: polished casual I remember, and this took us through a 52 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 1: long time then, because I remember denim shorts, black tights, 53 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: Doc Martin's flannel shirt that. 54 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 4: Was like my uniform. 55 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: And I don't even what age because I was only 56 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: six at the time, but I wasn't wearing it then. 57 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 4: But this really began that movement of time. 58 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 2: Well, it's because, like we've talked about before, like when 59 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 2: you have when you talk about like what the style 60 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 2: was of the nineties, it's not starting at nineteen ninety 61 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 2: it was starting in nineteen ninety two. So by the 62 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 2: time it really reaches the mass seas, it's ninety. 63 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: Five, right, right, ninety six or ninety. 64 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, So like when the really famous people are 65 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 2: doing it, it's not happening, happening immediately. You're right to 66 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 2: like the fans and to like all of us. 67 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: Right right, right exactly. It's like the Cirillian blow. 68 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 2: Yes exactly. And I remember I have pictures of me 69 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 2: being like this age and like my older siblings to 70 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 2: addressed this way. 71 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 4: M yeah, my mom was. 72 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go, exactly, Yeah, yeah, my god, basic instinct. 73 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 2: I mean Wayne's world. 74 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: I mean talk about a pop culture you know moment. 75 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 2: Do you think all of these things were also so 76 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 2: big for us because we had older siblings, so we're 77 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 2: exposed to these things earlier than we would have normally been. 78 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: Definitely is being talked about, it was being consumed. I think, yes, absolutely, 79 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: I think it would have been a different story had 80 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 1: me not had older siblings who had that TV on like. 81 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 2: That, looking into Newsi's in this era, I did not 82 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 2: know sort of any of the history of it at 83 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 2: all and did not realize this was, you know, Disney's 84 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 2: like modern foray into live action musicals from anime, from 85 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 2: their gigantic animated movie musical Hits. 86 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 1: I know, it's crazy to think that Newsies was was that, 87 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 1: and it was a big risk, a huge risk. 88 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 2: And it did not pay off spoiler alert because like 89 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 2: in My household, it did And so I had no 90 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 2: idea until yes, this week, this was even the reality 91 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:23,799 Speaker 2: for this movie. 92 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: I know, I was shocked reading all these facts about 93 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: like it not being a success. And but going back 94 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: a little bit, you're talking about in early nineties, we're 95 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: talking about Little Mermaid, Beauty and The Beast Aladdin. I mean, 96 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 1: these were and continue to be the ones that hit 97 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 1: still hit so hard and changed animated musicals for the better. 98 00:05:53,279 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 1: But live action movie musicals were massively as to risk, 99 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 1: both creatively and financially, and they were not like breaking 100 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 1: into song. It was like you go back to like 101 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 1: the old movie musicals, and then we evolved into animated musicals, 102 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: and now we're going back into this. We're bridging this 103 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: and going into these you know, break into song musicals 104 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 1: with neasies. 105 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean you're working with like some of 106 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:29,239 Speaker 2: Disney's best and brightest, right, Like you have Alan Mankin 107 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 2: composing the music, which like he had done already for 108 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 2: many of the animated movies. 109 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: Yep, Jack Feldman did the lyrics and then obviously directed 110 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: and choreographed by Kenny Ortega. 111 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 2: The one and only a little fact about Mincin when 112 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 2: writing this music Mencan obviously is incredible like just yes 113 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:54,359 Speaker 2: formed our magic touch. Yes, like all the music we 114 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 2: grew up on, he wrote. His longtime collaborator Howard Ashman, 115 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 2: was to deal with aids to work on the project, 116 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 2: and passed away just before songwriting began in March nineteen 117 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 2: ninety one crazy and he had talked about writing news 118 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 2: he's actively grieving Ashman's that death and traveling back and 119 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 2: forth between LA and New York during the early session. 120 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 2: So I mean, what a that's the other thing that's 121 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 2: going on in the background of the world, Yeah, is 122 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 2: like the AIDS crisis, and to know that, like you 123 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 2: have people who are entrenched and all of that, and 124 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 2: then like Mancan, who like politically at the time, it 125 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 2: was like not a popular thing to be talking about, right, right, 126 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 2: And you have Mancan who is contributing so much to 127 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 2: everybody's lives yep, and Howard Ashman to so many people's lives, 128 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 2: and like the complete disconnect there and then writing another 129 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 2: thing that contributed to our lives and upbringing like Newsy's. 130 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 2: It's just totally you just you just don't know are 131 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 2: going through yet in the background, Yes, you know something 132 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 2: that is mean so much to. 133 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: Us, Yes, And like life goes on right, Like they're 134 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: all of these things are happening personally, and yet they're 135 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: still having to you know, make living and make art 136 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: and do this and. 137 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 2: Like find a new lyricist. There's so much success and 138 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 2: clearly a really close relationship. How do you. 139 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: Build trust, like with somebody who's literally I mean that's 140 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: like such a partnership to write lyrics and to have 141 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: a shorthand like that, or not have a shorthand. And 142 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 1: then also they have to so unlike like stage musicals 143 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:57,079 Speaker 1: where everything's kind of workshopped and talked about and changed, and. 144 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:58,199 Speaker 4: This had to be. 145 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: All the songs in Newsy had to be written, recorded 146 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: and locked before filming began, right. 147 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 4: And so there was very little room wiggle room. 148 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: To change or ad or you know, do whatever to 149 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 1: the music. And and so you know they're working under 150 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: these crazy time constraints as well, because they're you know, 151 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 1: the clock is ticking and they have deadlines. 152 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 2: Well, and the script is changing, and so they have 153 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 2: to write new songs. There's gaps in the script. 154 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,439 Speaker 1: But then also you know, you had they're also writing 155 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: for This is Fun. They wrote for the leads, right, 156 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: So they knew that they had Christian Bail and David Moscow, 157 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: and they knew that they were not trained singers or dancers. 158 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 1: So now all of this stuff has to be built 159 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: around these two to make them look really good, to 160 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:51,959 Speaker 1: make them you know, set them up for success. Right, 161 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: and Kenny there's nobody better than Kenny to shoot, dance 162 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 1: and to make people bring out the best in people, right, 163 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: because that's what you want. Camera angles, editing, you know, 164 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 1: all this stuff. Even though Santa Fe never would have 165 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: known Christian Balcony Dan. But yeah, they really had to 166 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 1: work around these two that were not trained in this way. 167 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 1: And I like that because I think that the right character, 168 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,439 Speaker 1: I mean, number one, they pulled it off, and number 169 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: two casting the right person for the role versus being like, well, 170 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: the singing and dancing is the most important. 171 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 4: Actually it's not. 172 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: You know, the character and the person who brings that 173 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 1: character life is more important to them, and I think 174 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: that shown through. 175 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 2: Yes, I think this is a very illuminating process because 176 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 2: it's not like anybody in the movie is an exceptional vocalist. Yep. 177 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 4: But it doesn't matter except maybe that woman in the beginning. 178 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 2: Yes, because it isn't like it isn't forcing any of 179 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 2: these actors to sing above their ability. So I'm not 180 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 2: worried about what their voices are doing because I know 181 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 2: very early on like these songs aren't necessarily challenging, but 182 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 2: it all fits with their characters, right, So like you're 183 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,839 Speaker 2: not like if it's a if it's an adaptation of 184 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 2: a stage musical, then we know what these songs are, 185 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 2: and then there's that whole issue. But because they're writing 186 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 2: for these actual people and they know their ability, yeah exactly, 187 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 2: all feels so organic and I'm not sitting here like, oh, 188 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 2: is he going to hit this note because they're not 189 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 2: writing above their. 190 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: Ability exactly and still very successful. 191 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 2: Yes, these songs. I think it's also when songs are 192 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 2: sometimes I think overwritten in musical theater is sort of 193 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 2: like the stereotypical issue people have with musical theater. Where 194 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 2: I feel like this movie works so well in so 195 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 2: many ways with the music is that it is not 196 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 2: that where it's like these guys, these kids are like 197 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 2: loud and brash, and that's sort of how the singing 198 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:08,959 Speaker 2: feels too, where it's an extension of their voice as 199 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 2: opposed to we're in the middle of the scene and 200 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 2: then this man's going to break out into like the 201 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 2: most beautifully sung thing with this beautifully strong voice, which 202 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 2: is great, but I feel like would have been a 203 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 2: disservice to this and sometimes is a disservice to some shows. 204 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:32,079 Speaker 1: Yes, I also think there's like a twofold thing of 205 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: leaning heavily on an ensemble cast, Like you know, obviously 206 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: we have the two guys as the lead, but this 207 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 1: is about the Newsies, right, He's loosely on the Newsy 208 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 1: strike about unity, about people coming together. And so the 209 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: strength of these Newsy boys in the ensemble dancing these 210 00:12:55,160 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 1: incredible moments and really bringing this peace to life, and 211 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 1: then also like even elevated more in the Broadway version 212 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: of the dancing. I mean, you needed absolute athletes to 213 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 1: do what they did in the Newsies. Like if you 214 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: if you knew a guy an actor in the Newsies, 215 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:14,439 Speaker 1: you're like, oh. 216 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 2: They they dance a lot. 217 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, But I think that it's you know, there's 218 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: just this this really well utilized ensemble. And it also 219 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: elevated the piece in the storytelling that they were trying 220 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: to tell in these boys joining together and you know, 221 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: unifying for a cause. 222 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 4: And I thought that just leaning on them was really. 223 00:13:55,360 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: Impactful or powerful or just they did it beautiful is 224 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: usually executed. 225 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 2: Well, this is the second Kenny or take a movie 226 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 2: we've done, and I feel like the through line here 227 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 2: is is Kenny Ortega builds some sort of community or 228 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 2: vibe on set and then it carries through his choreography 229 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 2: and then onto camera. Yep, because you at no point 230 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 2: do I feel like, oh no, these like rough and 231 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 2: down troubled boys who are Newsies are dancing beautifully in 232 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 2: the streets. Yeah, right, you're able to like with like 233 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 2: they're beautifully choreographed and clean dancing. Still see all the 234 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 2: characterization of all of them, yes, yes, and like the 235 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 2: way even just like in high school musical, the way 236 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 2: things are blocked, not just the choreography, but the way 237 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 2: like characterization is shown through the way they're jumping over 238 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 2: things and the way they are with each other. Yeah, 239 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 2: all of those things. Is it's also deep in every 240 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 2: single shot. 241 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 4: It's specific. It's really specific and. 242 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: Geniusly led, I think, And you're right it is you 243 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: know a lot that's on Kenny right, that's a leader, 244 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: you know what. 245 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 2: I think. It's also fascinating about this movie is the 246 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 2: setup of this is that Disney decided to you know, 247 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 2: make its foray into live action musicals, original musicals about 248 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 2: a story from eighteen ninety nine sort of about like 249 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 2: the unionization of Newsy's. Yeah, which is like not some 250 00:15:55,520 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 2: like hot topic that you'd think when this necessarily make 251 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 2: for a good musical, I know, so like they really 252 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 2: I feel like we're like putting themselves in a really 253 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 2: hard position here. 254 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: I know. But and you think about the pitch of 255 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: like what that is if it's Kenny or if it's 256 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: somebody else saying like, we've got this idea, but think 257 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: about it. It's a musical, rights, it's a musical, and 258 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: it's not animated. But there it's hopeful, and there's a dream, 259 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: and there's you know. 260 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 4: The characters are well developed. 261 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: I think that's where in my mind the cell is 262 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: of like this, Yes, it's it's wildly risky. All all 263 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: the pieces are risky, but yet the cell is like 264 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: I get it. I don't know, I get it. And 265 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: then you have mank it attached and all these people 266 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: on board who have executed so well for Disney in 267 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: you know, in the past, so well. 268 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 2: It's like Kenny knows the tone of this. And then 269 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 2: like you have somebody who's such an all star choreographer 270 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 2: and visionary that like, if he's going to put this 271 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:07,199 Speaker 2: team together, if he decides to do this, and he 272 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 2: decides to hire two leads that aren't necessarily singers or dancers, 273 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 2: like you know what's going to work. And I know 274 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,919 Speaker 2: from like interviews that Bail in Moscow gave about like 275 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 2: they were nervous obviously about leading a film doing things 276 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 2: that they were not comfortable doing or experts in. 277 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 4: Probably there's trusted rights, and. 278 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 2: It's like Kenny or Taga clearly is not going to 279 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 2: make anybody look bad bad perfectly. Yeah, And if anything, 280 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 2: it seems like all that the physical movement of all 281 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:46,919 Speaker 2: the kids, like maybe was built around the ability of 282 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 2: those two, which was like they could be physical. They 283 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,959 Speaker 2: were great actors. They are great actors. Yeah, It's like 284 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 2: that's not necessarily a stretch. 285 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 1: Yeah. 286 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 4: Yeah. 287 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: Although this is a fun fact that I did not 288 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 1: know until yesterday when I was reading through some of 289 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:06,360 Speaker 1: these facts and going through watching the movie, was that 290 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: Mankin was actually at the Oscars in nineteen ninety two 291 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: when the show when this film, you know, the year 292 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: this film came out and he won two Academy Awards 293 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: for Beating the Beasts of course Crazy. It was backstage 294 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: that very night that he found out that Newsy's had 295 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: won the Razzie, which is a cinematic failure and the 296 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 1: award show for that, which is insane and it's called 297 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: the Gold It's the Raspberry Awards basically. 298 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 4: And I'm shook now, I'm shook. I didn't know that. 299 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 4: I didn't know. 300 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 1: I didn't know that it wasn't widely accepted. But again, 301 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 1: it's a cult classic that you know, was revived later 302 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: in time. I think it may have been ahead of 303 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: its time. 304 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 2: I didn't know it was a cult classic. I thought 305 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 2: this movie must have done. 306 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 4: Well, wildly love it. This well meant also because of 307 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 4: the Broadway production and how how many lives it's had 308 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:04,400 Speaker 4: since we and we loved it. 309 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 2: We just assumed, yeah, fully this movie. Okay, the budget 310 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:13,959 Speaker 2: was fifteen million dollars and it grossed under three million. 311 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 4: I am so upset. I'm so upset. 312 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 2: And the movie did so poorly that it was even 313 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:23,959 Speaker 2: pulled from many theaters early on in it's run. And 314 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,159 Speaker 2: like the weird thing is, I know, you know people 315 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 2: talk about like Metacritic and Rotten Tomatoes and like the 316 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 2: disparity sometimes it has with like the popcorn meter. Yeah, 317 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:38,719 Speaker 2: but it has a thirty nine on. 318 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: There are things that have that I've watched very recently 319 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: that have way higher Rotten Tomatoes. 320 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 4: And I am a gas and. 321 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 2: It has forty six on Metacritic. I have eighty seven 322 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,919 Speaker 2: on Popcorn Meter, which tracks that fus right to me. 323 00:19:53,040 --> 00:20:00,160 Speaker 1: Fine, see that's what I'm saying. Whatever, whatever, everybody. I 324 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 1: this was such a formative film for my life. But 325 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 1: watching it last night and like really paying attention because 326 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: this is a comfort film for me, right, Like I 327 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 1: put this on and I know it's going to happen, 328 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 1: and I know the songs, and I love these characters, 329 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: especially mister Bail m hm. And I'm not gonna lie. 330 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: There's a lot less music than I thought in parts 331 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: of this. Yes, that I realized that I don't watch 332 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 1: that part of the film. 333 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 2: Really. 334 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: I watch for the music, I watch for the dance numbers, 335 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: and then I click out during the story. And I've 336 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 1: seen it before so many times, so I know what 337 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 1: happens and I know the story, but I click out 338 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: during that time. And I was trying my best to, like, 339 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 1: you know, pay attention last night, and I was kind 340 00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 1: of bored. 341 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 2: I did the opposite, hmmm, because I thought everyone was 342 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 2: so great that I forgot I too, forgot how little 343 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 2: music there actually is, and that I wanted to see 344 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 2: the story progress, which was not really happening through the music, 345 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 2: Like the music was. 346 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,880 Speaker 4: Sort of totally there, totally. 347 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 2: And I also think I was just sort of like 348 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,640 Speaker 2: in awe of like how good Christian Bale has always been. 349 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:37,159 Speaker 1: No, I know, I know, but no, what like what 350 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: a freak? 351 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 2: No, I know, he's carrying this entire movie with this 352 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 2: gigantic cast. 353 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 4: With such ease. 354 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 2: Yeah it is. 355 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 1: He is so good. 356 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 4: And but I was like, you know, it doesn't really matter, 357 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 4: you know what. 358 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 2: It reminds me of the spirit of it. It reminds 359 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:00,160 Speaker 2: me of like, Okay, it's a movie made for kids 360 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 2: about kids, yep, who are like who are realizing their 361 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 2: own strength and community and their power, which was like 362 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 2: always so fun to watch as a kid, And it 363 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 2: reminded me of hook, you know, when they would get 364 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 2: to like Neverland and like what's the name Rufio and 365 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 2: all of them like that vibe, yeah, which was like 366 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 2: one I'm realizing now, like one of my favorite aspects 367 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 2: to like watching movies in the nineties was a lot 368 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 2: of things were like ensemble pieces about kids being out 369 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 2: on their own. 370 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 1: And finding their strength, finding their independence, like yeah, and 371 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: like coming together. 372 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:48,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I feel like I feel like Kenny Ortega 373 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 2: has a real knack at that, yes, where it feels 374 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 2: very organic and natural, and I feel like that's hard 375 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 2: to do in a musical, not make corny. 376 00:22:59,200 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. 377 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 4: And also I think that. 378 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: A really successful teacher doesn't like going on along on 379 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: the kids aspect of this like a kid's movie, right, 380 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: it was made for kids, like. 381 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 4: A really good teacher. 382 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: Like teaches, and kids don't know their learning correct and 383 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: I think this movie does that really well. 384 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,120 Speaker 4: And Kenny drove that ship. 385 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 1: And because even I was like wow, because I hadn't 386 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:30,360 Speaker 1: maaide attention in so long. 387 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 2: But I was like, this movie's about really good. 388 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: Really good, and it was educational and slightly political and 389 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: yet still a musical for kids, and there's still hope 390 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: and there's still these core things that kids can hang 391 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 1: on to, like the hook of it all. 392 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 2: I also had no idea that it was like historical 393 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 2: fiction of it, Like I didn't know it was about 394 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 2: Bulletzer and Hurst, Like what. 395 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: At the end of the day after the the real strike, 396 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: Culser and Hurst did not lower their prices. 397 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 2: Of course they didn't, No, they didn't. 398 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 4: But the songs, I mean kept me, they keep me 399 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 4: for this film. 400 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 2: Although music is excellent, It's so good. 401 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: And and just the characters of Jack and Davy, like 402 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: the two of them together, their energy and their chemistry 403 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 1: is so good. I don't know if that was just 404 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 1: natural or if it was working together for so long, 405 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 1: you know, in the pre pro of this all. 406 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 2: And you know, what's shocking about the story in this 407 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 2: movie is that people who have committed corruption actually face consequences. 408 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 2: I thought that was surprising. The world has really changed 409 00:24:55,520 --> 00:25:01,880 Speaker 2: in the early nineties when that's what we thought society, 410 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 2: I know it was, but okay, can we I sort 411 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 2: of love that this movie is like old school or 412 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 2: on a backlot we have recreated New York from eighteen 413 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 2: ninety nine. Love it and you have like really like 414 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 2: wonderful set pieces, like like the specific corner outside where 415 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 2: they're getting the newspapers and then within the place where 416 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 2: they're getting and it's like hot off the press and 417 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 2: they're like coming home to all those fire. 418 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: Escapes, the fire escape. 419 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 2: Fire escapes are so important in musicals. 420 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,360 Speaker 1: I mean, take me back to West Side Story, you know. 421 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 2: Well, that's what also I would love to see. Maybe 422 00:25:54,880 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 2: we don't need this yet, yeah, but like like another 423 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 2: version of this movie too, you know, like I thought 424 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 2: Steven Spielberg's West Side Story was incredible and and very 425 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 2: different from the original part of me because I do 426 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 2: think this is so good. They're like, I wonder what 427 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 2: like a little rougher version of this would look like now. 428 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,360 Speaker 2: But I don't know, Kevin, I know, I don't know. 429 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: I also feel like we have the pro shot of 430 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:32,679 Speaker 1: the other musical, which was different music and lyrics as well, 431 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 1: you know, on Broadway, And so I don't know, I 432 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 1: don't know. 433 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 2: I never said that had I not known this was 434 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 2: a bomb, like this is a cold thing. 435 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 1: I guess. I just think I would have a really 436 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: hard time seeing somebody else in Sana. 437 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 2: That's cute. 438 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 1: There's also something very charming about the fact that he's 439 00:26:55,800 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 1: not a singer, and yes, Jack wouldn't, naturally, I think, 440 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: be a good singer. So like, I don't you know 441 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: what I mean. The character itself is like that hit. 442 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: The way he delivered every piece of music was like 443 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:15,199 Speaker 1: so in character and character driven versus like let me 444 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: sing my lungs out like a Jeremy Jordan, who is 445 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 1: still you know, so wonderful, But like in a movie, 446 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,400 Speaker 1: there's something about that and I fear that they would 447 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,880 Speaker 1: take advantage of more singers. I don't know, maybe I'm wrong, 448 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 1: Maybe I'm wrong, Maybe we do need it. 449 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 2: Well, I'm not even saying I have better singers in it. 450 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 1: No, no, no, I'm not saying that. I'm just fearful 451 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: that they would. But I understand what you're saying, and 452 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 1: I think that there's still things that we could touch 453 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: upon politically and uh, you know in the world today 454 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:57,120 Speaker 1: that would resonate with this and I and I see 455 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: what you're saying on like a different take and a 456 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 1: little bit more or not on a back lot. 457 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, which I don't hate. I mean, I love it 458 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 2: knowing it, Like I love this movie. 459 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 1: But so when you were watching this movie last night, 460 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: you said it was the opposite of what I did. 461 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 1: So you were paying attention more to the story and 462 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 1: to the acting and to the the stuff in between 463 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: the music. 464 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think because I'm much more familiar with the 465 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 2: music than I am. Like that's what obviously has stuck 466 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 2: with me, like, like, oh, I know how this goes. 467 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 2: I really enjoyed watching the choreography totally. I really loved 468 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 2: all of that. I think maybe maybe too because I 469 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 2: was taken aback of like the historical fiction of it 470 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 2: all that I was like so interested in it because 471 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 2: I just never ever realized that as a child, that 472 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 2: that's like what was happening. 473 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 4: So do you think that this is more of a 474 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 4: musical movie or a movie with music? 475 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 2: No, I still think it's a musical movie. 476 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 1: Yes, I agree, Yeah, there's the gaps of time that 477 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: we we don't have a lot of music. 478 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 2: No, But I honestly I didn't even really notice it 479 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 2: when I was watching it. 480 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 1: I did last thing because I was like, oh, there's 481 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 1: like there are chunks, there's like an hour where there's Yeah, 482 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. 483 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 2: Also, this movie is two hours long, and I yeah, 484 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 2: I didn't feel like that to me. 485 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 4: No, never does, never does. 486 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 2: And I have such good like classic things like like 487 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 2: the kids are sort of in like Juvie, and they're 488 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 2: like the lore of Jack Kelly breaking out and breaking 489 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 2: in and then getting back and they have to break 490 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 2: him out again. Like all of those things are just 491 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 2: like wonderful tropes of like all these kids like being bad, 492 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 2: but they're doing it for a good reason and like 493 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 2: they're taking down the man. And then you have like 494 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 2: the one adult who understands the plight of the children. 495 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 2: And like Bill Pullman, who's like a journalist with a heart. 496 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 1: I can't with him. I just he tugs at my 497 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 1: heartstrings every time. Those smoldering eyes just get me. Christian 498 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: Bale and Bill Pullman in the same film just call 499 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 1: it quits. 500 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 2: I'm done, And I think this in my heart, this 501 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 2: has to be a Kenny Artega thing. But Kenny Artega 502 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 2: also does like sort of what you were saying about 503 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 2: a good teacher. But you know, there's that moment in 504 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 2: this movie where Bill Pullman all of a sudden it 505 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 2: is like, well, the story didn't happen, Like they're not 506 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 2: letting me print it, so like it didn't happen. You're like, oh, no, 507 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 2: is this guy about to be a bad guy? Yes, 508 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 2: and yes, I don't want this. And the same thing 509 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 2: in my high school musical where people are like on 510 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 2: the verge totally you don't that and it's like, is 511 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 2: showing these kids the reality of life? 512 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 1: Yeah? 513 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, But it never gets to that point where it's 514 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 2: like gratuitous and like changes, you know, an optimistic movie 515 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 2: into something that it's not. Yeah, And it's really nice 516 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 2: that it never gets into it. 517 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 4: Might it feels like it teeters that too. Yeah, yeah, totally. 518 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 2: We're showing you what the world can be. But also 519 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 2: there are good adults out there who can help, yes, 520 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 2: and like this is how you do it? 521 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 1: Can We also talk about Kevin Tigue as mister Snyder, 522 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: who gives the craziest like creepy looks that like I'm like, 523 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: oh my gosh. 524 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 2: Like it couldn't have been more perfectly cast. Like I 525 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 2: was thinking that too, Like can just show up and 526 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 2: just like glance at somebody and you're like, oh, I 527 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 2: hate him, He's. 528 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 4: Coming for him. 529 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: Yes, and all the kids, just all the kids, all 530 00:31:52,400 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 1: the boys, all the men. It's just so sweet. I 531 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 1: want to talk about some of the music numbers. Yes, please, 532 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 1: it just it brings me so much joy. Santa Fe. 533 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 1: Let's talk about Christian Reals dance break in Santa Fe. 534 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 2: I thought it was good. I did too, Like clearly 535 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 2: he's not but he is. 536 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 1: He is urging, he is benning, he is turning, he 537 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 1: is mooking on the ground. Looks like he has technique. 538 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 1: I was shocked when I learned that he did not 539 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 1: sing or dance before. Yes, no, I don't think he's 540 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 1: the strongest singer. We know this, but like dancing, I 541 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: would never have known. No, I never known that he 542 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 1: never took a dance class or wasn't trained, No, not 543 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 1: at all. And Santa Fe just such a good number. 544 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 1: He's it really locks you in, right, you know his 545 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:55,719 Speaker 1: you know who he is. 546 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 2: Well, he's like he's the leader. He's not a bad 547 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 2: guy society. He's telling you he's a bad guy, but 548 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 2: he has a heart. He just wants to go be 549 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 2: with his parents. 550 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 1: Yep. 551 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 2: And he's had like a hard life, and we don't 552 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 2: know that. This is a boy who's dreaming and who's hopeful. 553 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 1: I know, uh, seize the day at Goosebumps. Best number, 554 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 1: goose Bumps, last number, fast number, I mean, King of 555 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 1: New York is also like the fan the kid I'm 556 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 1: a fan, will never knock get me. No, I don't 557 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: love meta. I don't like those numbers. Really, they've always 558 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 1: fast forward through those numbers. High time, high times, hard times. 559 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 1: Do not like it? Do not like lovey Debbie Baby. 560 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 2: Hard high times. Hard times is when they're all in 561 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 2: the yeah and. 562 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,239 Speaker 1: Then mister Snyder comes and gets them right. 563 00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 2: Yes. When I was younger, I hated meta. I hated 564 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 2: those scenes. Yeah, but watching High Times Hard Times, I 565 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:10,359 Speaker 2: was like, yes, Mulan Rouge, Yeah, I get it. 566 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 1: I just don't think I like the style of it. 567 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 1: I think that's it for me, Like it's not high 568 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 1: it's the style. 569 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,400 Speaker 2: I liked it because it was also like the one 570 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 2: bit of like showmanship and glamour in a musical, and 571 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 2: it wasn't even that glamorous, Like it was just her 572 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 2: in this dark room. And like I liked that she 573 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 2: was protective of the boys yep, because she was. She 574 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 2: was out there working hard too. 575 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:41,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, totally carrying the banner. 576 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 1: We don't hear a lot of females sing in this, No, 577 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 1: in this, in this, and and when they do, they 578 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 1: blow I mean carrying the banner. When she comes out 579 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: and sings that tiny, tiny piece of a verse, Yes 580 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 1: it will. It will forever be embedded in my mind. 581 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 1: It is forever yep, something that will sing in the shower. 582 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 583 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 1: The Patrick part referring to let the women sing, she 584 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 1: is belting. Yeah, but yes, I think my favorite is 585 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 1: Santa Fe and Seize the Day. 586 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 2: I think Seize the Day's. 587 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 1: And then there's a lot of reprises like I didn't 588 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 1: realize that they all come back like this sees the 589 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 1: Day Corral and like you know, the Corral version, and 590 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,239 Speaker 1: then Santa Fe has like the Repriese and then once 591 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,720 Speaker 1: and for all like into like the world will know Repriese, 592 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 1: which I like because you know what, if you have 593 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,839 Speaker 1: a good song that legends, bring bring it back. 594 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 2: I saw Hades Town last night for the first time. 595 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 2: Oh my god, and that is a musical that will 596 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:53,280 Speaker 2: bring back a melody. 597 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:54,840 Speaker 4: Oh yes, it will. 598 00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:00,399 Speaker 2: Specific melody. But it's also like it's not even just that. 599 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,760 Speaker 2: Several songs and it's like, yes, it is so good 600 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,439 Speaker 2: and hooky and it's of compelling. Bring it back. 601 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 4: We're let's do that that thing you do, Yes, bring it. 602 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:16,240 Speaker 2: Back, because if you can find that balance where it's like, oh, 603 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 2: we need you to know this song or know this 604 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 2: melody and like we're hitting you over the head with it. No, no, no, 605 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 2: that's not what we want bring back. That's just good 606 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 2: to listen to. Yes, just because we want to hear it. 607 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 2: And you know what, we didn't hear it enough the 608 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 2: first time. 609 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:34,399 Speaker 1: Agreed, bring bring it back, Candy, bring it back, bring 610 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 1: it back. Let's do some charty takes okay cringe moments. 611 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 2: I mean there's quite a bit just because of the story. 612 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, like the child labor of it all 613 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 1: and the grown adults like beating on your boys. 614 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,760 Speaker 2: And children and the treatment of meta. 615 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah it says and Sarah too. Yeah, it's a lot. 616 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:07,800 Speaker 4: Best dance move, I mean. 617 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:12,480 Speaker 2: There's so much good jumping in this. 618 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:13,359 Speaker 4: Seize the Day. 619 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, probably Sees the Day that I think is just 620 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 2: anytime there's a group number. 621 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,880 Speaker 4: There's kids flipping, there's people jumping. 622 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:32,320 Speaker 2: There's marching choreo like I love that God, and carrying 623 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 2: the banner at the end. Also it was just everyone everywhere, 624 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 2: which is also like sweet, which I really enjoyed. 625 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:43,880 Speaker 4: Dancing in the square. 626 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 627 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 1: Uh. Best song Kevin, Seize the Day. 628 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 2: I will say carrying the Banner was an incredible opener. 629 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 4: I it's so good, it's so long, it's so long. 630 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:09,520 Speaker 1: It's so good, but it sets the story. It's a story, it's. 631 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 2: It's the best way, and it's everything you need to 632 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 2: know exactly. 633 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 1: Performance by a prop, the pipes. 634 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,440 Speaker 2: The papes come, there's no other choice. 635 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 1: Best lines Jesus want. 636 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:26,280 Speaker 4: A newity forever. 637 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 3: Oh. 638 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,400 Speaker 2: I did like the whole thing about Brooklyn the Spotland, 639 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 2: So what about Brooklyn? Who wants Brooklyn? Nobody's answering? Funny. Also, 640 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,239 Speaker 2: I did love that whole just side note that whole 641 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 2: section of like spock hons of going over to Brooklyn 642 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:46,440 Speaker 2: so fun like it just again, it just feels so magical, 643 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 2: like kids can do anything. Yeah, and like kids are 644 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:51,440 Speaker 2: actually running the streets. 645 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, they had go to another territory. 646 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 2: And I know it's also like making light of probably 647 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:03,440 Speaker 2: like oh yeah, these like impoverished children that were actually 648 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,239 Speaker 2: like living in the streets and trying to get by, 649 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:10,440 Speaker 2: like hustling these papers, which is like a really dark 650 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 2: time yep. Yeah, but at the same time teaching us 651 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 2: about this. 652 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, performance m VP. 653 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:27,880 Speaker 2: Christian, I mean Christian Bale carries yeah, Christian Bale. Absolutely. 654 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 2: I have a question, mm hmmm. I feel like Lee 655 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:37,360 Speaker 2: would have done Good Newsies. Do you think totally? 656 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 4: I don't think we had enough boys to do it, but. 657 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 2: No, but I feel like the girls would have been 658 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:42,840 Speaker 2: in like boy drag. 659 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 1: Oh cute, yep, it would have been a blame number 660 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:48,400 Speaker 1: or Finn. 661 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 4: Well that would have been cute. 662 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 2: It could have been a competition between Finn and Kurt, 663 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:57,759 Speaker 2: who's going to sing Santa Fe? I think Kurt, I 664 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,960 Speaker 2: think well because because like, why can't get cast as 665 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,880 Speaker 2: like the strange boy roll you know, no, no, no, 666 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:10,240 Speaker 2: of course storyline and Glee right right. 667 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,000 Speaker 1: I just think vocally I would like to see her 668 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:12,600 Speaker 1: darn do it. 669 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, agreed, but yes, I agree. Also so many good 670 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:16,920 Speaker 2: group numbers. 671 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:22,279 Speaker 1: Honestly, carrying the banner or seize the day would have 672 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:23,759 Speaker 1: been really fun to do for. 673 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 2: Zach Santana, High Times, Hard Times. 674 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:33,280 Speaker 1: Yes, and also put Harry and Heather and oh my god, 675 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:37,319 Speaker 1: you know, oh my god, Harry and Heather doing like 676 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 1: clips and stuff like boy caps. Literally they're doing everything 677 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,280 Speaker 1: of us and we're just standing on the side clapping 678 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:49,240 Speaker 1: holding paper like in Mattress. 679 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,920 Speaker 2: News would have been so fun. But I get why 680 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 2: they didn't do it because it was a bomb and 681 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:55,480 Speaker 2: nobody liked it. 682 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,399 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you know what. 683 00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:59,480 Speaker 2: I almost broke up with Austin last night because I 684 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 2: was talking about news. He's like, oh, Christian Bale can't sing, 685 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 2: Oh what you talking about He's like, I've never seen it, 686 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 2: but he can't say. I was like, that was my 687 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:13,240 Speaker 2: first inkling that there's a whole other world where people don't. 688 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,880 Speaker 1: Like yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, well we're in we've been 689 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:17,440 Speaker 1: living in under a rock then yeah. 690 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 2: Because literally was the first bit of resistance I've ever 691 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:20,879 Speaker 2: heard again about. 692 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,880 Speaker 1: Truly, there are people who are like, what is newsies 693 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:25,719 Speaker 1: and like David usually Will watched uff with me and 694 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:29,879 Speaker 1: he was like, no, I watch this, so yeah, I. 695 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:31,480 Speaker 2: Feel like it would be right up David's alley. 696 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 1: I know, I don't know what. I don't know. I 697 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:38,279 Speaker 1: don't know weird, I know where you're shuck. We're shuck, 698 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:43,240 Speaker 1: Kevin Well, I love you, Newsy's love you Newsy's. 699 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:51,160 Speaker 2: Also, I just good lighting. No, it was, it was 700 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 2: it was just dance with shot wonderfully it was lit. 701 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,799 Speaker 2: There's some beautiful shots of like Christian Bale peeking through 702 00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 2: a window or door and he's just like lit. So 703 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:00,239 Speaker 2: what I'm I'm. 704 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,360 Speaker 1: Like, can we can jump on Christian Bale? Can get that? 705 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:09,200 Speaker 2: Oh my god? Yes, he's been a leading man for forever. Okay, 706 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 2: ship we found on TikTok Jenna show me. I actually 707 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,960 Speaker 2: stumbled across this and it's what It's time to be 708 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:21,480 Speaker 2: alive and Glee fan on nine posted it and it's 709 00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 2: clips from tour and people being like, oh god, I 710 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,400 Speaker 2: wish I could have seen this. And it starts with 711 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:34,520 Speaker 2: Ny and Amber singing and running around that stage. 712 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,520 Speaker 1: No really, like honestly, what a gift to be able 713 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,359 Speaker 1: to share the stage with the two of them while 714 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:40,040 Speaker 1: I did that number. 715 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:41,600 Speaker 2: And then it goes to Jesse's girl. 716 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:47,080 Speaker 1: Oh truly, what an honor? 717 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:51,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because these numbers were great and this tour 718 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:55,839 Speaker 2: was so much fun to do. And then you get 719 00:42:55,880 --> 00:43:00,560 Speaker 2: into the Warblers doing teenage Dream and didn't you get 720 00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:04,719 Speaker 2: into Leah doing the random my parade? Oh my god, 721 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,359 Speaker 2: and like, let me we were fans of all of this. 722 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,520 Speaker 1: I mean we watched those people saying those things live 723 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:13,320 Speaker 1: and that was yes. 724 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:17,320 Speaker 2: Every single night, twice a day, and we were down 725 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,160 Speaker 2: for all of it like we were on the show. 726 00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:23,799 Speaker 1: But we were also very proud, so proud to watch 727 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:28,920 Speaker 1: our friends, yes, rooting everybody on, watching from the stands. 728 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,000 Speaker 4: Or from the backstage. 729 00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,040 Speaker 2: I also love this So when people like that TikTok 730 00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:40,600 Speaker 2: millions of views. Yes, it was a time. That is 731 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:41,879 Speaker 2: Newsy's We did it. 732 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:42,799 Speaker 4: We did it. 733 00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,359 Speaker 2: What a joy, just so much joy, like. 734 00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,360 Speaker 1: Kevin even more joy. Guess who we get to talk to. 735 00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:55,080 Speaker 1: I'm so nervous Davey himself. Are you kidding so nervous 736 00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:55,920 Speaker 1: David Moscow? 737 00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:57,960 Speaker 2: Yeah? 738 00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,279 Speaker 1: Absolutely wid. 739 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:05,880 Speaker 2: Also because like David Moscow, wasn't everything growing up like 740 00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,920 Speaker 2: that face is a part of my childhood. 741 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah for sure. 742 00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:21,200 Speaker 2: Like he stayed booked, still is yeah, always booked, So 743 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,799 Speaker 2: stay tuned for that. Very excited to talk to him. 744 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,680 Speaker 2: And if you haven't seen Newsies in a while or ever, 745 00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:29,919 Speaker 2: go watch. 746 00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:31,040 Speaker 1: You're missing out. 747 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,560 Speaker 2: Go have a good times and watch a young Christian Bale. 748 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:39,840 Speaker 2: Just eat it up. That's right, and that's what you 749 00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:43,520 Speaker 2: really missed. Thanks for listening, and follow us on Instagram 750 00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,200 Speaker 2: at and that's what you really miss pod. Make sure 751 00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,360 Speaker 2: to write us a review and leave us five stars. 752 00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:49,239 Speaker 2: See you next time.