Speaker 1: Hell I Suck At Dating with de Younglert and Dared
Speaker 1: Haven and I heard radio podcast What's going on? Everyone?
Speaker 1: Welcome to an all new episode of Help I Suck
Speaker 1: At Dating. This week's episode is out on time. I
Speaker 1: like to think at least at least we're recording on
Speaker 1: our normally scheduled record date. So hopefully, hopefully you listening
Speaker 1: to this on a nice Sunday afternoon. No bachelor party
Speaker 1: in Cabo this week. Yeah, think the sweet Lord above us,
Speaker 1: because I can only do one of those per lifetime.
Speaker 1: Probably I was. I was a wreck after that. Man,
Speaker 1: I feel like everybody was a wreck. Ben was like
Speaker 1: I needed two days to recover. He lost his voice.
Speaker 1: He was tired, exhausted, and like, good god, man, what
Speaker 1: did you guys do? I went to bed at like
Speaker 1: eleven o'clock every night. I was quite comfortable. I played
Speaker 1: golf of the balls a couple of days ago, um,
Speaker 1: which was it would probably be like what would that
Speaker 1: be like? We got back on a Sunday. I played
Speaker 1: golf with the balls on that Wednesday, and he was like, Dude,
Speaker 1: I like, this is the first time I've gotten out
Speaker 1: of bed d since getting back from Kabo. Like, he goes,
Speaker 1: I've lived a very privileged life and I can easily
Speaker 1: say that that was the hardest day of my life
Speaker 1: getting back from Kabo to Los Angeles. What did you
Speaker 1: guys do the last night? I think he got a
Speaker 1: stomach book. I think he ate something that was that
Speaker 1: messed him up a little bit. Oh god, I gotta god.
Speaker 1: I do remember Saturday night we were all like playing
Speaker 1: beer pong or whatever, and he went to bed super early,
Speaker 1: and I was like, dude, stopping such a wiss, like
Speaker 1: let's go, it's last night. And he was like there
Speaker 1: literally is no no way, no chance I can possibly
Speaker 1: do anything tonight. But but yeah, I'm finally get back
Speaker 1: to normal. And it's funny because I leave tomorrow from
Speaker 1: Mexico again. So yeah, don't you give it a wedding. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my brother is getting married and saw Yalita. That's right
Speaker 1: to Paradise, So he's getting married in Paradise. Yeah. Also
Speaker 1: very funny story. So when I was playing golf with Wales,
Speaker 1: I was talking about this trip and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm staying in Salalita. My brother is getting married down
Speaker 1: there at the resort, and Walls goes, oh are you
Speaker 1: staying at Villa a More And I go, yeah, we're
Speaker 1: staying at Villa More. How the heck did you know that?
Speaker 1: And he goes, that's the place that I stay at
Speaker 1: when I'm bartending for Paradise. Oh, so you're gonna have
Speaker 1: to let us know how nice it is. See what
Speaker 1: does Cours look like? Isn't that so funny? Though? The
Speaker 1: place that Well stays at to bartend Paradise is the
Speaker 1: same resort my brother randomly booked to get married at. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's crazy. So I'll have firsthand experience down there. I
Speaker 1: guess how close it is is it to the resort
Speaker 1: that we film on? We checked it's a thirty minute walk.
Speaker 1: Thirty minute walk, okay, so Well stays very close to
Speaker 1: the resort. Yeah, we're we're definitely gonna go check it
Speaker 1: out while we're down there, because we're Caitlin and right
Speaker 1: on there for like four days. Oh that'd be nice.
Speaker 1: Too bad you guys that aren't doing there in June,
Speaker 1: because then you could just say hello to all the
Speaker 1: cast and crew down in Paradise while you were there. Well,
Speaker 1: since I'm driving, I might like I might catch them
Speaker 1: at the beginning of filming says TBD. Also, this is
Speaker 1: a secret to Klin, so don't tell her. But uh, well,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I should say hopefully she doesn't
Speaker 1: listen to the podcast. I just like, I don't want
Speaker 1: someone that listens to the podcast, like d m her
Speaker 1: on Instagram or something. It's not that secret and it's
Speaker 1: not that special. But our very first date, Caitlin and
Speaker 1: I went to this restaurant in point to Varta. Uh,
Speaker 1: and I found out what restaurant it is, And so
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take her back to that restaurant. What a guy,
Speaker 1: big extravagant dinner. Yeah, it'll be nice. That would be
Speaker 1: so nice. She's gonna love it. I'm not gonna say anything.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna walk into the restaurant and see she
Speaker 1: picks up on the fact that it was the place
Speaker 1: we had her first date. What if she doesn't, I'll
Speaker 1: throw her off the bom. Say what happens if the
Speaker 1: dinner is over, you pay the check and you're like, uh,
Speaker 1: you haven't said anything all dinner about the fact that
Speaker 1: this is the first place went to a date on Yeah.
Speaker 1: I emailed the restaurant. I was like, hey, can you
Speaker 1: give us like some preferential treatment, you know, maybe like
Speaker 1: put some rose petals out. They haven't gotten back to
Speaker 1: me yet, but tvd well hopefully they dude, that'd be
Speaker 1: so nice. Wait, was that your first date outside of Paradise?
Speaker 1: Like you guys left and then you know that, you
Speaker 1: know how like you take go down at the date card,
Speaker 1: you asked someone at a date, you go on a day.
Speaker 1: So that was the dinner date we had the night
Speaker 1: we had a night date. So we just drove straight
Speaker 1: to the restaurant. That's where you She said that you
Speaker 1: live a pretty cool life. Yeah, yeah, it's funny. Actually
Speaker 1: I was taking I was taking a number two today
Speaker 1: and I was passing some time, and I watched the
Speaker 1: YouTube clip of it. It sounds like life is a
Speaker 1: pretty funny Uh, pretty funny to go back and take
Speaker 1: a trip down memory lane. Uh so yeah, we'll see.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll I'll tricker to jumping into the pool again
Speaker 1: this time and I don't know, not in the first time. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember. I mean, it's obviously
Speaker 1: a very small detail that only probably me and her remember.
Speaker 1: But we were like cold hands and we're all right,
Speaker 1: we're gonna jump in the pool. On three and then
Speaker 1: we go one to three and she jumps and I
Speaker 1: don't jump. Ah, what a what a Dean move, What
Speaker 1: a jerk. It's very classic. Did you jump in afterwards?
Speaker 1: Obviously No, I put my clothes back on and left. Yeah, alright,
Speaker 1: I'll see you later, Kalin, good day. See you back
Speaker 1: in the resort. Yeah, I jumped in obviously. Um. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it'll be funny. It'll be It's just so funny that
Speaker 1: my brother decided to get married there, So I'm like
Speaker 1: driving down and going to hang out. His wedding is
Speaker 1: next weekend, so we've I've got four or five days
Speaker 1: to drive down. It's like twenty four hour drive. My
Speaker 1: buddy from Colorado is coming out and driving down with me,
Speaker 1: so at least little bit take shifts and stuff. And
Speaker 1: then after the wedding, I'm gonna fly back up to Vegas, uh,
Speaker 1: and then hang out for a couple of days and
Speaker 1: then fly back down to get my van and like
Speaker 1: drive down, drive around Mexico. So yeah, maybe, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe Paradise will uh see me lurking around in the
Speaker 1: shadows and be like, you know what, Dean, just come
Speaker 1: on like host the show for us. We you know,
Speaker 1: we really could use your talent. Christ isn't back yet.
Speaker 1: We need a host because we haven't figured it out yet.
Speaker 1: Uh what was I gonna say? Yeah, dude, you're gonna
Speaker 1: be spotted and people are gonna have rumors that you
Speaker 1: and Calin are broken up, and yet you're back filming Paradise.
Speaker 1: Here it comes, Dean, You are you and ashleyna do
Speaker 1: anything for Paradise because didn't you guys do something for
Speaker 1: Matt season? Ashley did something for Matt season. We did
Speaker 1: something for Tatious season where we hosted, um, what was
Speaker 1: it like, the man Baby Challenge that's right now. That
Speaker 1: was a lot of fun, and then ash went back
Speaker 1: on Matt season and hosted a group date there. We
Speaker 1: didn't do anything for Katie season spoiler alert, so you
Speaker 1: will not see Ashley and minds faces on there. And
Speaker 1: then Paradise of course, dude, we would love to go
Speaker 1: down to Paradise. It's it's a little weird, not weird,
Speaker 1: but we're obviously trying to get pregnant right now, so
Speaker 1: that depends. Uh, you know, we'd have to learn more
Speaker 1: about Zeka if that is still a thing, which I
Speaker 1: don't know if it is down to Mexico. I haven't
Speaker 1: done enough research, but that all would have to be
Speaker 1: taken into consideration. But we'd love to go down and
Speaker 1: make a cameo. We were actually down there for four
Speaker 1: four straight years fifteen, sixteen, seventeen eighteen nineteen, five straight years.
Speaker 1: We were down there for something. We were on Paradise
Speaker 1: and Tails in fifteen, Tails of sixteen tilS and seventeen
Speaker 1: Carly and Evan got married. We went down there two
Speaker 1: thousand eighteen we got engaged. Uh in two thousand nineteen,
Speaker 1: maybe we didn't do anything well two year Kaylin and
Speaker 1: I were there. I don't remember you being there, but
Speaker 1: I was. I was only there for a few days there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: did we do anything? I don't remember anymore tills the
Speaker 1: nineteen was the year we got married. So maybe on
Speaker 1: an I'm losing track of time. We were down there
Speaker 1: for something. I don't remember what the hell it was, though,
Speaker 1: isn't that Chris Oh, Christ and Crystal's wedding, Kristen Crystal's wedding?
Speaker 1: That is right? Good memory, my friend? Wow, isn't that
Speaker 1: crazy to think that they were married? Like where Crystal
Speaker 1: now has a kid with a new guy. Beautiful child.
Speaker 1: Congratulations to them both. Chris is in San Diego. He's
Speaker 1: a day trader. Hopefully he's making tons of money. I
Speaker 1: can't get into day trade and the super bullish market,
Speaker 1: and he's definitely making No I'm just kidding. The market's
Speaker 1: been so barished the past two weeks. It has been
Speaker 1: absolute brutal. That's what I keep hearing, Dude, I can't
Speaker 1: get into the stock of the day trading. I tried.
Speaker 1: My My heart rage just goes from a hundred down
Speaker 1: to fifty on my blood pressure is up and down.
Speaker 1: I can't do it. I cannot do it. I don't
Speaker 1: know how you guys do it. You're just on this
Speaker 1: app and you're like, oh, I'm up a hundred, I'm
Speaker 1: down two hundred, I'm up three hundred, I'm down four hundred,
Speaker 1: I'm up fifty. And it's like, I can't do it.
Speaker 1: I can't do it. Like my anxiety is through the roof.
Speaker 1: I don't know how people do this. I've got a
Speaker 1: I've got a really bad experience. Actually, just two days ago,
Speaker 1: uh my one of my best friends called me. He's like, hey,
Speaker 1: I want to invest in this like crappy little coin
Speaker 1: and I was like, Okay, that's a dumb idea, but
Speaker 1: like I'll tell you how to do it. But it's well,
Speaker 1: it's it's Doge Alan, it's Doge plus a lan, and
Speaker 1: it's like, in order to like buy the coin, it
Speaker 1: to go through this weird process that I've done with
Speaker 1: a bunch of other things before. So I like walked
Speaker 1: him through it and he's like, okay, cool. I bought
Speaker 1: worth and I was like, oh, you know what, like
Speaker 1: screw it, Like I'm in this with you. I'll put
Speaker 1: a thousand dollars in and I was up like five
Speaker 1: hundred bucks a couple of days later, so I was like,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm happy with that. I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: pull out and sell it. And then a week and
Speaker 1: a half later it had gone up like twenty times,
Speaker 1: so I would have made twenty thou dollars but I
Speaker 1: sold it all. And then my friend who put in
Speaker 1: is up like thirty grand and I'm like, Mike, dude,
Speaker 1: you're crushing it with this investment, and he goes, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm still I'm gonna keep holding it like I think
Speaker 1: it's gonna go higher. And I was like, dude, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm missing out, so I like bought a bunch more
Speaker 1: like dollars worth and then literally literally the very next
Speaker 1: day it goes and it drops and I like, literally
Speaker 1: all my money it's gone up. It's gone back up
Speaker 1: a little bit since, but it was one of them.
Speaker 1: It was like the most terrifying investing moment I've ever
Speaker 1: had in my entire life. I can't do it, man,
Speaker 1: It's just like I've lost money, I've gained money. I'm
Speaker 1: all over the place, and it's like, you know what,
Speaker 1: I just want to keep my money. If there's something
Speaker 1: that I really believe in, I will invest, Like I
Speaker 1: invest a little bit in crypto, but even that, I'm like,
Speaker 1: is crypto the future? Or is this all just a fugazi?
Speaker 1: I don't know. But we should probably stop talking about
Speaker 1: the stock market, seeing how we are a dating podcast.
Speaker 1: We do have a special guest coming up, Austin Kievich Uh.
Speaker 1: He is the creator of a luxe club app and
Speaker 1: the Luxe Club UH. It's a dating app. It's a
Speaker 1: private membership based dating app for Jews with quote ridiculously
Speaker 1: high standards UH, and it's apparently being called the new Riyah.
Speaker 1: I don't really know, but I'm excited to talk to
Speaker 1: him about the dating app. Why it's Is it specific
Speaker 1: for Jewish people with high standards? I don't know. We're
Speaker 1: gonna find out. I just wanted to congratulate you real
Speaker 1: quick before we moved on anywhere else. Before I couldn't
Speaker 1: bring it back to this. I saw a n Aashley
Speaker 1: Stories that you have four straight four a's in college. Oh, well,
Speaker 1: thank you very much. I appreciate it. Yes, I got
Speaker 1: my grades back. I was very nervous, as you might
Speaker 1: remember from the Bachelor party. I was writing papers while
Speaker 1: I was there, and uh, I was not nervous that
Speaker 1: I was going to fail, but I was nervous, like,
Speaker 1: what if I gotta see that's gonna just suck. I
Speaker 1: I just want to get a's and bees. And then
Speaker 1: I ended up getting three a's in one A minus.
Speaker 1: So I got straight a's, which was great and very exciting.
Speaker 1: I'm very proud. I worked hard. So, um, are you
Speaker 1: still waiting for one more grade? Though? Nope, I only took.
Speaker 1: I took four classes this semester and then I have
Speaker 1: one more to take in the summer and then I graduate.
Speaker 1: But the one I take in the summer is my
Speaker 1: second language. So it's it's I took Italian one on
Speaker 1: one this year, and so I'm gonna take Italian one
Speaker 1: or two during the summer with the same professor. So
Speaker 1: I feel pretty confident about that. Nice, there's there's going
Speaker 1: back to school. Does it like kind of encourage you
Speaker 1: or like invigorate you to like go to a graduate
Speaker 1: program or anything like that. No, because I don't know
Speaker 1: exactly what I want to do if I want to
Speaker 1: even do anything with my degree, like we talked about before, Really,
Speaker 1: really I just wanted to go back get my bachelor's
Speaker 1: because I invested so much time and money into school
Speaker 1: and I really just wanted to finish and get my
Speaker 1: degree and be able to, you know, say that I
Speaker 1: have my bachelor's, put it on resume, see if it
Speaker 1: helps me in any different way. Plus, like, you know,
Speaker 1: it's all virtual right now, So school is I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna say easier, but far easier to attend to submit things.
Speaker 1: You know, you don't have to submit it in person,
Speaker 1: you don't have to be in class in person. Everything
Speaker 1: is virtual. So I just literally opened up my laptop
Speaker 1: and I'm in class. So that's been an extremely satisfying
Speaker 1: part about going to class during the pandemic. Um but
Speaker 1: thank you, man, I appreciate it. So it's uh, it's
Speaker 1: it's cool. We'll see You took a funny approach to it.
Speaker 1: You like, you basically went to a car dealership, I
Speaker 1: bought a car, got exactly what you wanted, and then
Speaker 1: never put any tires on it. And then you came
Speaker 1: back to it five years later and you're like, you
Speaker 1: know what, it's time to put some tires on this thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's time to finally you use this thing and put
Speaker 1: some tires on there, some really good tires. Yeah. I'm
Speaker 1: happy for you, man, I'm proud of you. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean there's not I wish I had like more stories,
Speaker 1: but unfortunately, because of the pandemic, you were not in class.
Speaker 1: So it's like I don't interact with any of my classmates.
Speaker 1: Most of them I haven't seen their faces because they
Speaker 1: don't have their camera on during zoom, which I felt
Speaker 1: really bad for the professors. I'd always have my camera on.
Speaker 1: Very infrequently would I not have my camera on. But
Speaker 1: I felt bad because it would just be the professor
Speaker 1: lecturing it's like this right here, and then your camera
Speaker 1: would be off and then they're just talking to whoever
Speaker 1: the hell knows, and I felt bad. So I was like, well,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put my camera on, you know, I'll be
Speaker 1: the goody two shie student. But whatever worked out got a's.
Speaker 1: They probably got cs that I know you kind of
Speaker 1: talked about this, and obviously it would probably not even
Speaker 1: be in the Code of Ethics for a professor. But
Speaker 1: did any of the professors like, oh, you're Jared Habin
Speaker 1: from a from Bachelor. I think there may have. I
Speaker 1: think two of my professors may have known who I was,
Speaker 1: which I was nervous about going in because it's always
Speaker 1: weird um for your professor to know who you are.
Speaker 1: I mean, as a student, could you imagine going to
Speaker 1: a class and then walking in and you know your professor.
Speaker 1: That already creates like an uncomfortable environment, not for anybody
Speaker 1: in particular, but for me at least. I always felt uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't want to know my professor.
Speaker 1: I don't want to know my other students. I just
Speaker 1: want to get in, learn and get out. But to
Speaker 1: my professor's one. I had a professor previously years ago,
Speaker 1: and then I took him again this year and he's awesome,
Speaker 1: awesome guy. And they never said anything, but like I
Speaker 1: think they knew, Like were the hints that you're they
Speaker 1: were giving you just vibes. It's the best way I
Speaker 1: can describe it, almost as if they knew me. UM
Speaker 1: and one another was a female professor and again never
Speaker 1: said anything. Was never uncomfortable, but just like tonality, just
Speaker 1: like there was like a sense of familiarity, and I
Speaker 1: was like, I think they might know me from Bachelor.
Speaker 1: What's been your what's been your favorite thing you've learned
Speaker 1: this semester? Uh in a class setting. That's a good question.
Speaker 1: My favorite thing I've learned? Um? I Well, I took
Speaker 1: geography one on one and I learned mapping. I learned
Speaker 1: how to map online with a website called r G
Speaker 1: I S and that was pretty interesting. My final project
Speaker 1: was about um serial killers that can tell you where
Speaker 1: my brain is, but um, most specifically about Jack the
Speaker 1: Ripper because he's fascinating and so I was able to
Speaker 1: create some maps about where the murders of Jack the
Speaker 1: Ripper took, place, distance between them, UM, things of that nature. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, time, place, location. So that was fun to do.
Speaker 1: Learning more about the White Chapel murders as they're known. Um.
Speaker 1: And then yeah, my history course is one was a
Speaker 1: post independence African course, which was pretty interesting. We learned
Speaker 1: a lot about um uh you know, like to scramble
Speaker 1: for Africa uh, and African nations gaining their independence uh,
Speaker 1: you know, mostly in the nineteen sixties, late nineteen fifties. Uh.
Speaker 1: And a lot of the political issues that you know
Speaker 1: have has faced Africa uh today and a lot of
Speaker 1: the roots are from colonialism. So learning about that was
Speaker 1: pretty interesting and eye opening. And it's you know, hard
Speaker 1: to learn about those things. And we can see that,
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of parts of the world, there's
Speaker 1: some very tragic things going on. Obviously in Palestine right now.
Speaker 1: What's going on over there is is horrific um. But uh,
Speaker 1: I guess just learning it's hard to really pinpoint everything.
Speaker 1: You know, one specific thing that I learned about that
Speaker 1: was great because my history course is a lot of
Speaker 1: it is just about like you know, civilizations falling or
Speaker 1: political corruptness or things of that nature. And the Italian
Speaker 1: was fun too. Uh. But anyway, we don't have to
Speaker 1: go through like this whole row of things. Sorry, I'm
Speaker 1: just like explaining my life away right now. I don't
Speaker 1: hate it. I like that you're the first thought is
Speaker 1: to go to Jack the Ripper, and I can empathize
Speaker 1: with you because one of my favorite podcasts besides this one,
Speaker 1: of course, is Crime Junkies and the Crime Junkies episodes,
Speaker 1: every single one of them is great, but the most
Speaker 1: fascinating ones are always the serial killer episodes. They're just
Speaker 1: so they're so exciting. It's like, what do you take
Speaker 1: a crazy turn? And then all of a sudden you're like,
Speaker 1: how's this guy not caught yet? And then they're like
Speaker 1: they go to their property and they unveil like ten
Speaker 1: more bodies, and you're like, this is awful and insane. Dude,
Speaker 1: we're obsessed with serial killers. Like as a society, why
Speaker 1: do you think be watched sixty minutes? Why do you
Speaker 1: think what was the serial Killers show that was directed
Speaker 1: by David Fincher on Netflix? I forget it, but it
Speaker 1: was a huge success or Zodiac or all these movies
Speaker 1: seven you know what I mean, Like there's something inherently
Speaker 1: interesting about it. It's horrific and terrible, but yet like captivating.
Speaker 1: So anyhow, it just says like a lot of us
Speaker 1: as human beings were just horrible people really in the core. Um,
Speaker 1: that's why it's nice. It's nice to be able to
Speaker 1: plug in like grand theft auto or something and just
Speaker 1: like be like, Okay, I don't want to do that. No, No,
Speaker 1: totally watched Disney you know that's good with ash ashes
Speaker 1: just like the most like fluffy butterfly optimistic person you'll meet.
Speaker 1: So like being around her is uh it makes me
Speaker 1: feel better about life in a lot of ways. Um. Well,
Speaker 1: we do have a guest coming up. Holy crap, we
Speaker 1: didn't talk anything about dating. That's okay. Sometimes, you know,
Speaker 1: in in life and on this podcast, we have to
Speaker 1: really branch out. We have to talk about things that
Speaker 1: are happening in our own lives, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: serial killers, schooling, first dates. Yeah, but else, I don't know.
Speaker 1: That's all I got for you on that one. We
Speaker 1: do have Austin Kevitch. I hope I'm saying his last
Speaker 1: name properly. I'm terrible with names. Austin Kevin created Lux,
Speaker 1: the Lux Club app. He is coming up right after
Speaker 1: this break. Stay tuned, all right, welcome back to help
Speaker 1: buy suck at Dating. Jarre A Dean here, and we
Speaker 1: have very special guest. He is the creator of the
Speaker 1: locks Club app. It is a dating app specifically for
Speaker 1: Jews with quote ridiculously high standards. It is Austin. Kevin. Austin,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us today. Thank you
Speaker 1: for having me. I'm excited. Did I pronounce your last
Speaker 1: name right? Because I'm terrible with names. Levitch you did, Kevin?
Speaker 1: How did you? How did you? Now? You're just adding
Speaker 1: letters and yeah, I'm just butchering Kevich, I said, Kevin.
Speaker 1: The first time you know what it was was because
Speaker 1: I read it off the screen, off our rundown, So
Speaker 1: I read it properly, and then I was on the
Speaker 1: zoom looking at your face, and then for some reason,
Speaker 1: Levitch just came in my head. So Austin Kevich said
Speaker 1: it properly. K to the L classic mistake classic in
Speaker 1: the alphabet. Yeah, there's somewhere around there. So Austin, you
Speaker 1: created this dating app. Locks Club app is, like I said,
Speaker 1: for Jews with ridiculously high standards. So tell us about
Speaker 1: the app. What made you want to create it? And
Speaker 1: where do you see this thing going? Yeah, so all right,
Speaker 1: big question. I'll try to do the quick version. Um
Speaker 1: So I was going through a breakup. This was about
Speaker 1: a year year and a half ago, and I was
Speaker 1: in that you know, like depressed anxious phase where you
Speaker 1: like try to journal and meditate but you don't actually
Speaker 1: do it. And then, um, I remember I was always
Speaker 1: anti dating app, like I never would like I had
Speaker 1: too much pride to ever use the dating app. And
Speaker 1: all my friends would do on dating apps, and um,
Speaker 1: I noticed when even when people would meet someone on
Speaker 1: an app, they would lie and say they met at
Speaker 1: the gym or at the Grow Street store through a
Speaker 1: friend or something. Uh And then so kind of as
Speaker 1: a joke, I made a website called the Locks Club
Speaker 1: and wrote for an ext was some dating app for
Speaker 1: Jews with ridiculously high standards. And the reason I made
Speaker 1: that the taglines because I'm also at that age where
Speaker 1: like my grandma big, when are you going to bring
Speaker 1: home a nice Jewish girl? And I don't know, And uh,
Speaker 1: so I just made the website like just kind of
Speaker 1: making fun of um like this like elite clubs and
Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of more superficial dating apps. Um.
Speaker 1: Also at this time, I did try two of the
Speaker 1: dating apps, and I thought they were so corny, like superficial,
Speaker 1: and I was just like photos and I don't know,
Speaker 1: it was just it was what to dating apps you
Speaker 1: try Riya and Hinge. Okay, well Ryan is very superficial,
Speaker 1: but that's like it's a whole brand. Yeah, the brand
Speaker 1: I think takes itself a little too seriously. Well yeah,
Speaker 1: you have to if you yeah, because you have to
Speaker 1: like get approved and you have to have like some
Speaker 1: sort of I remember, like a few years ago I
Speaker 1: applied to be on Rya and miraculously got approved. But
Speaker 1: like some of my friends who like they got noted,
Speaker 1: and it's like that kind of sucks. Yeah, yeah, and
Speaker 1: there was there wasn't really an application. Flow is just
Speaker 1: like you link your Instagram, right, yeah, pretty much. And
Speaker 1: it's I feel like it's a random who they picked
Speaker 1: because like there's no reason why I would have gone on.
Speaker 1: And some other people from the shows who had like
Speaker 1: just as much of a following quote unquote as me
Speaker 1: didn't get on. Yeah. I hear that a lot. Here's
Speaker 1: some people who are like really interesting, impressive people are like, right,
Speaker 1: I haven't haven't been accepted. On the flip side of that,
Speaker 1: I had a buddy who had like no social media presence,
Speaker 1: and he got on. So I do think it's like
Speaker 1: just completely random for the most part. It could be
Speaker 1: it could just be a random algorithm or something right,
Speaker 1: just like just just picking names out of a hat basically.
Speaker 1: But I mean, enough about right, enough about hinge, tell
Speaker 1: us more about tell us more about you. So you
Speaker 1: were on the dating apps, you didn't like them, and
Speaker 1: then what happened after that? Okay, So I made this
Speaker 1: website kind of making fun of the other dating apps basically,
Speaker 1: and UM didn't think anything of it. All it was
Speaker 1: was people could apply to sign up UM and overnight,
Speaker 1: like a couple of hundred people, over a thousand people
Speaker 1: signed up. And I think because girls were sharing it
Speaker 1: on their Instagram stories because they just thought it was funny. Um.
Speaker 1: I thought the idea was so stupid and UM. Then
Speaker 1: when covid happened, Uh, it's it's suddenly made a lot
Speaker 1: of sense to start building the app version of this.
Speaker 1: And a lot of people have been bugging me up
Speaker 1: to that point, like Austin, can you make this a
Speaker 1: real thing? I want to use it? And I refused
Speaker 1: to take it seriously for a long time. I could
Speaker 1: never see myself actually creating a dating app. Here we are.
Speaker 1: And then so your whole thing was like, oh, this
Speaker 1: is a dating app that's making fun of other dating apps.
Speaker 1: So my question is, how do you get people on
Speaker 1: the dating app that are actually looking for relationships if
Speaker 1: like you're marketing it as like, oh, I'm just kind
Speaker 1: of joking. So the fun part for me was designing
Speaker 1: the app like to be more of an immersive experience
Speaker 1: rather than just like a sterile dating app. And what
Speaker 1: I mean by that is I designed it like this
Speaker 1: old school deli and you walk into deli and you
Speaker 1: have to say when you download the app, you have
Speaker 1: to say secret password. And the actual Locks Club is
Speaker 1: like this secret speak easy hidden within the deli. So
Speaker 1: you open the app and you get the whole backstory
Speaker 1: of the Locks Club was this speakeasy that was around
Speaker 1: in the nineteen twenties and then mysteriously got shut down
Speaker 1: and you said the secret password, and then um, you apply,
Speaker 1: and then we have a membership committee that actually like
Speaker 1: thoroughly vets each application and chooses who let in UM,
Speaker 1: and then we have like it's all it's a it's
Speaker 1: way more human than algorithm. We have real humans reviewing people.
Speaker 1: We have real humans that will reach out to you
Speaker 1: when you apply, and then we have human matchmakers that
Speaker 1: will ask you your type, and then you can tell
Speaker 1: them what you're looking for, um, and then the matchmakers
Speaker 1: will pair you up with someone. Ustome dating dating in
Speaker 1: your life before the Locks Club, did you use being
Speaker 1: a jew as a filter for people that you would
Speaker 1: want to date? Like, let's say you met a girl
Speaker 1: but she ended up not being Jewish? Would you would
Speaker 1: you not consider her as a possibility to date? No,
Speaker 1: not at all, and that surprises people. Um, I'm not
Speaker 1: a religious person whatsoever. Ironically, the Jewish thing for me
Speaker 1: was more of, Uh, it's a way to just ensure
Speaker 1: that there's this shared values within the community. And if
Speaker 1: you think about it, like the curation thing with shared values,
Speaker 1: is it mostly mimics how it works in real life,
Speaker 1: Like you meet someone through these curated you know, like
Speaker 1: a friend introduces you, or you meet someone at work,
Speaker 1: or you meet someone at a kickball game. Um, compared
Speaker 1: to other dating apps, were like, it just shows you
Speaker 1: everyone who's nearby. So there's there's no curation, there's no
Speaker 1: like guaranteed values in common. The Judaism thing almost has
Speaker 1: very little to less to do with being Jewish and
Speaker 1: more to do with like the values that you people
Speaker 1: who are raised Jewish terms to have and the people
Speaker 1: people who also like can relate to that who aren't Jewish.
Speaker 1: Um we allow win. I tell everyone, Uh, when they
Speaker 1: asked me if you have to be Jewish to join
Speaker 1: the Locks Club, I say, it's like a deli, Like
Speaker 1: it's culturally Jewish, but anyone can enjoy a deli. Oh
Speaker 1: that's cool. That wasn't gonna be our next question to like,
Speaker 1: let's say, you know I wanted to join or something
Speaker 1: like that. I guess it's nice to know that I
Speaker 1: would still be in consideration for It's it makes me
Speaker 1: kind of think of I'm sure you know of birthright,
Speaker 1: you know, like the trip the back to the Holy
Speaker 1: Land that a lot of young Jewish people are allowed
Speaker 1: to do. And my understanding of it is so I'm
Speaker 1: like less than one percent ashka ask nazy jew so
Speaker 1: barely barely anything at all. And I was like, I
Speaker 1: wonder if that's enough to get me on that trip?
Speaker 1: Sure enough, it wasn't my friends that I've went on
Speaker 1: it having for me and and correct me if I'm
Speaker 1: wrong that the purpose of that trip, for the most
Speaker 1: part is yet to to understand better and appreciate your
Speaker 1: Jewish heritage, but also to find a Jewish partner to
Speaker 1: help kind of like live on the Jewish bloodline essentially,
Speaker 1: you know. So I kind of thought this was more
Speaker 1: of this is like a obviously, I know it's maybe
Speaker 1: not quite as extreme, but it's kind of like a
Speaker 1: digital version of that. Yeah, that's a that's an analogy Birthright.
Speaker 1: I did Birthright. It's wild. That's it's everyone hooks up
Speaker 1: on that trip. I did not, unfortunately, but everyone in
Speaker 1: my group did. Um. There's a lot of funny memories
Speaker 1: from that trip. UM. But with Locks Club, Uh, for me,
Speaker 1: it was it was like I wanted to create this,
Speaker 1: like I love the speakeasies with the secret entrances, and
Speaker 1: I love escape rooms and magic shows and like kind
Speaker 1: of these. I guess it's activities where they're really fun
Speaker 1: and if you can meet someone as a byproduct, rather
Speaker 1: than UM. The other dating apps to me feel like
Speaker 1: almost like a networking event where you're explicitly there to
Speaker 1: meet someone, so it feels forced and awkward, right, and
Speaker 1: then you have to spend and they spend the rest
Speaker 1: of your time getting to know each other and deciding
Speaker 1: whether you're into the same things, Whereas if you start
Speaker 1: off being in the same things, that kind of makes
Speaker 1: things a lot easier. Exactly exactly, So this is like
Speaker 1: a virtual social night out. Yes, that's kind of like
Speaker 1: I'm getting because, like, like like you said, like other dating
Speaker 1: apps are like you're on there and you're swepping through
Speaker 1: profiles and it's like, okay with this person, I match
Speaker 1: with this person, sounds good, I should go on a date.
Speaker 1: This is more of, Hey, I'm gonna go on this
Speaker 1: app hang out with other people as if I would
Speaker 1: if we went to a speak easy and then hopefully
Speaker 1: I just meet a person that I exchange for numbers
Speaker 1: with and like have a connection with. It sounds ridiculous,
Speaker 1: but we literally imagine we're walking into this old school
Speaker 1: Delhi in New York, going to the back room, and
Speaker 1: then there's this cool speakeasy called the Lox Club in
Speaker 1: the back. Sick, how do you wait? So the Lox
Speaker 1: Club is a real place, though it may or may
Speaker 1: not be a real place, but it's a story that
Speaker 1: you kind of like when you join the app, you'll
Speaker 1: you get taken on this journey of the history of
Speaker 1: the Lox Club. And I saw that you have you
Speaker 1: had your for in person event down in Miami. Is
Speaker 1: that could be more of a of a staple within
Speaker 1: the Lost Club. Not only can you get like entered
Speaker 1: into this virtual um speak easy on the app, but
Speaker 1: there will also be opportunities to meet other people that
Speaker 1: you met virtually to speak Easy in real life at
Speaker 1: these events. Yeah. Absolutely, So our whole our whole company
Speaker 1: mission or dream or goal, um, whatever you wanna call it,
Speaker 1: is to help people find love in non cringeing ways. UM.
Speaker 1: So we're evolving the app a lot from just a
Speaker 1: dating app where you swipe through and chat with people.
Speaker 1: And and one of those new experiences we're launching his
Speaker 1: events starting with Miami. Um And Yeah, so we're we're
Speaker 1: launching a whole series of in person events and we
Speaker 1: also have virtual events in the app. And actually that
Speaker 1: whole events section is coming out in the app store
Speaker 1: this week. Wow. Nice have you seen Have you seen
Speaker 1: the headlines lately where it's like girl exposes like Matthew
Speaker 1: Perry or Ben Affleck for matching them on riya and
Speaker 1: and you know, more or less being creepy does the
Speaker 1: locks ever have to deal with anything like that or
Speaker 1: with celebrities with just like like I don't know, like
Speaker 1: outing people on the app. You know, on Riya, there's
Speaker 1: like exclusivity, like you can't not exclusivity, but like you
Speaker 1: can't screenshot something and show it online, Like you can't
Speaker 1: show people that are on Riya. Is that something similar
Speaker 1: that you're thinking about doing or have already done with
Speaker 1: We have that in Okay, So someone's on the locks Club,
Speaker 1: they can't like publicly share who else is on there
Speaker 1: with them, they can't. Um, we think it's the fun feature.
Speaker 1: We can't obviously can't stop someone to like for example,
Speaker 1: someone leaked to you know, that Instagram account domi Dye.
Speaker 1: Someone leaked that some certain celebrities were on Lost Club
Speaker 1: to that account and it's anonymous, so we have no
Speaker 1: idea who did it. Um. But we've had some celebrities
Speaker 1: reach out to our team directly, you know, letting letting
Speaker 1: us know like their fear of privacy, uh, and we've
Speaker 1: done we've taken precautions to help them, you know, feel
Speaker 1: more comfortable in the locks Cloud and make sure that
Speaker 1: like ull taken care of nice what what? What region?
Speaker 1: Are you guys mostly and is it like across all
Speaker 1: the US or is there like specific cities guys focus
Speaker 1: on Yeah, right now, it's across all the US, and
Speaker 1: then we have surprisingly, surprisingly there's communities and in other countries, um,
Speaker 1: like some Canadian cities and um London, Israel. We're planning
Speaker 1: on actually launching in all those cities. So I didn't
Speaker 1: expect that to just happen organically, but I'm excited to
Speaker 1: actually like fly there and host at event. Yeah that'll
Speaker 1: be fun. Yeah, you're spreading worldwide, guy, I would love
Speaker 1: We'll host live. It'll be like, it'll be help I
Speaker 1: suck at dating on the Locks Club live from the
Speaker 1: Lost Club exactly exactly. We've got to figure out the
Speaker 1: pastor is I love the name of this podcast because
Speaker 1: because I created a dating app, I'm like weirdly getting
Speaker 1: branded as like, oh, he must be a dating guru,
Speaker 1: but the opposite, like I, I'm much much more comfortable
Speaker 1: being like the guy who sucks at dating and is
Speaker 1: honest about that. And that's why I was excited to
Speaker 1: talk to you guys about this, because I love it
Speaker 1: and it wasn't either of our ideas for the name.
Speaker 1: But we definitely fully embraced the help by second dating mantra. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we've grown into sucky daters. Oh yeah, do you do
Speaker 1: you have a girlfriend or anything? I don't have a
Speaker 1: girlfriend right now. Are you on the Lox Club? I'm
Speaker 1: on the locks Club. I'm the only one out of
Speaker 1: everyone around me that hasn't been on a los Club
Speaker 1: date yet officially because I've just been literally working on
Speaker 1: it all the time. Yeah, but I'm excited for that.
Speaker 1: That would be a funny conversation to be able to
Speaker 1: be a fly on the wall for is you're on
Speaker 1: a date with a girl you met on the locks
Speaker 1: up and then she ends up asking you what you
Speaker 1: do for work, and you're like, oh, I created the
Speaker 1: app that introduced us to each other. Oh, I know,
Speaker 1: I don't even And there's a section on the profiles
Speaker 1: on the locks Club for your career history, and I
Speaker 1: think I just write that I work at locks Club.
Speaker 1: You know, in the you know, in the social network
Speaker 1: where Mark Zuckerberg gets a business card that says I'm CEO. Bitch. Yes,
Speaker 1: you should get that for the locks Club. Like you
Speaker 1: shouldn't actually do it, but it would be kind of funny.
Speaker 1: It's like under your your profile, it's like, oh, what
Speaker 1: do you do for work? I'm CEO, bitch, Uh, don't
Speaker 1: do that. I'm kidding. I literally, I literally, I literally
Speaker 1: write that right now. I'm implying on an intern. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I work at the Locks I'm on the social media team.
Speaker 1: Speaking of the social network. The movie, So my co founder,
Speaker 1: Alec alec Laine, I'm gonna put him on blast right now.
Speaker 1: When we first out, so we're both from Philly, we're
Speaker 1: childhood best friends, um, and then we moved out here
Speaker 1: together years ago and he started dating this girl, UM
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, and then they had a
Speaker 1: falling out like she might have ghosted him. Um. And
Speaker 1: then he saw her on the Locks club recently and
Speaker 1: they matched and it was like we're I was so
Speaker 1: excited because like his social network moment, like the end
Speaker 1: of the movie where Mark Zuckerberg gets the message or
Speaker 1: like friend request from her friend resting her and he
Speaker 1: keeps refreshing the page to see if she accepts it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he asked her out again and said do you
Speaker 1: want to grab drinks and catch up? Um, and then
Speaker 1: he he was excited about that. And then recently we're
Speaker 1: so we're hosting a happy hour, a virtual happy hour
Speaker 1: event in um in l A. And we saw that
Speaker 1: she signed up for that. So he's like, wait, what
Speaker 1: the like I thought I thought we were going to
Speaker 1: go out. Um But yeah, it's hilarious to have the
Speaker 1: two worlds combined like that work. This guy just can't
Speaker 1: seem to lock her down. It sounds like I know
Speaker 1: she's his great white buffalo, which makes it makes him
Speaker 1: one or more. I was gonna say that. I mean,
Speaker 1: I've definitely been that situation before where I have gone
Speaker 1: on a date with a girl or like I matched
Speaker 1: with the girl on hinge and then like it fizzled
Speaker 1: or got ghosts or whatever, and then like you match
Speaker 1: on like bumble or something like that, you know, and
Speaker 1: then you're like party. You was like, Okay, do I
Speaker 1: bring up the fact that we like have talked before?
Speaker 1: Do I leave it alone and see if she notices?
Speaker 1: I'd feel like a lot of people have been in
Speaker 1: that situation. You know. I've been on that situation. I
Speaker 1: matched with someone on a dating app and and then
Speaker 1: I ended up they were friends of a friend and
Speaker 1: I saw them in real life and I knew that
Speaker 1: we matched on the dating app, but we never spoke
Speaker 1: to one another, so we ended up like meeting each
Speaker 1: other in person, and I played dumb. I was like, oh, hi,
Speaker 1: it's good to meet you, blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: And then a couple of hours later she was like,
Speaker 1: you know, we matched on a dating app, right, And
Speaker 1: I was like, and I continued to play down. I
Speaker 1: was like what, no, way, Like, what dating? What are
Speaker 1: you even talking about? Have you, guys ever gone out
Speaker 1: with someone or started talking to someone where then you
Speaker 1: click on the Instagram d m s and saw that
Speaker 1: you had already d M them like two years earlier,
Speaker 1: or the d M do you yes? Absolutely yes? And
Speaker 1: then and then and then you think should I just
Speaker 1: quickly delete it and hope that they never look at this? Well,
Speaker 1: it's it's actually funny because it just happened last week. Uh,
Speaker 1: Jared and I were, well, Jared and I were in
Speaker 1: Cabo for our friends our friends bachelor party, and some
Speaker 1: of the guys on the on the trip are single.
Speaker 1: So some of the guys like brought girls back to
Speaker 1: the to the house or whatever, and uh, this like that,
Speaker 1: you know, you'll become friends. You all hang out whatever
Speaker 1: you like, go on each other's instagrams and one of
Speaker 1: the girls, well, actually it is funny because two of
Speaker 1: the girls at the house. One of the girls have
Speaker 1: like DMed me back in Seen and it's just like
Speaker 1: so funny to be like, okay, like four years ago,
Speaker 1: you're like trying to slide in and now here we
Speaker 1: are like all you know, together in Calbo. It's just
Speaker 1: kind of funny how that works. Sometimes. I guess I
Speaker 1: love that. Did you did you call her out for it? Um?
Speaker 1: I didn't, actually, but I should have. The other the
Speaker 1: other really embarrassing story that I probably shouldn't tell, but
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell it anyways, is this girl comes over
Speaker 1: with one of the single guys and I like walk
Speaker 1: up to her. I'm like, hey, I'm Dean, nice to
Speaker 1: meet you. And she looks me dead in the eyes
Speaker 1: and she goes, Dean, we've met before, and I go, crap,
Speaker 1: you're you're you're kidding right now, right like there's no
Speaker 1: way we met before she goes, yeah, we uh. We
Speaker 1: we met in Vegas about three years ago during I
Speaker 1: heard radio music festival, and awesome, I gotta tell you.
Speaker 1: Whenever I got to I Hear Radio Music Festival. It's uh,
Speaker 1: you know, odds are odds are good. I'm going to
Speaker 1: be pretty wasted the whole time. So I was like, crap,
Speaker 1: Like what what kind of embarrassing stuff did I get into?
Speaker 1: Like thinking I cooked up with her or something like that.
Speaker 1: She goes, no, you didn't hook up with me. You
Speaker 1: didn't hook up with me. We just like met and
Speaker 1: hung out for a bunch at I Hear Radio Music Festival.
Speaker 1: You were wasted, And I was like, thank god, like
Speaker 1: it could have been so much worse than it was.
Speaker 1: But two scenarios and the same weekend in Cobbo. It
Speaker 1: was absolutely ridiculous. I missed all the fun in Cabo.
Speaker 1: Apparently I was in bed way to her. Yeah, no kidding,
Speaker 1: Oh you were there, but you're just in bed. No
Speaker 1: I went, of course I went. I just I didn't
Speaker 1: really go out. I went out sometimes with the guys.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I didn't that night. I didn't obviously
Speaker 1: at the club with Nick. I went to the club
Speaker 1: one night with Nick. Yeah, we sat in a booth
Speaker 1: and had a couple beers and then I called it
Speaker 1: a night. Who's It was fun. It was nice to
Speaker 1: be out I haven't been out like that in quite
Speaker 1: some time anyhow, Austin, thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 1: I know we got really sidetracked there, but Austin, thank
Speaker 1: you so much joining us. Um, everybody who's listening, go
Speaker 1: check out the locks Club app right now, get the
Speaker 1: password to enter through the Delhi into the Speak easy
Speaker 1: and then I'm sure there'll be some virtual events happening
Speaker 1: in your area of the world soon. You already had
Speaker 1: one in Miami, there's a one coming up in l
Speaker 1: A very excited for you, Austin. This is a great idea,
Speaker 1: and uh, please come back and then definitely invite us
Speaker 1: to an in person event because we want to go.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, just so everyone knows, Jared and Dean will
Speaker 1: be at the event greeting everyone at the door. There
Speaker 1: we go. We're gonna be the bouncers taking pictures. They'll
Speaker 1: be giving out their phone number, and there's everyone who
Speaker 1: walks in. Yeah, as long as there were any prior
Speaker 1: Instagram DM slides, you know, yeah, yeah right right. Well, Austin,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining as we appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Good idea, keep killing it and we'll talk to you soon,
Speaker 1: all right, Thanks guys, all right, thanks, all right, welcome
Speaker 1: back to help. I suck at dating. Uh, Dean, we
Speaker 1: have a dating term kind of it's a dating term
Speaker 1: that's not really a dating term. So have you heard
Speaker 1: of photo f o D a photo? Uh, it's an
Speaker 1: active I think it was more. I thought ild just
Speaker 1: pronounced more like fata. I don't know, I'm missing, I said,
Speaker 1: Levitt schnumble over the place. Phota or fata, I call
Speaker 1: it fada like fodder, but like fata. You know, well
Speaker 1: tomato tomato. Really, what it stands for is fear of
Speaker 1: dating again. So apparently as vaccination rates increase, people are
Speaker 1: obviously looking forward to a normal life. I am. We
Speaker 1: want to reunite with family, be able to travel without
Speaker 1: worrying about catching COVID, going back to our favorite restaurants,
Speaker 1: eating indoors. But apparently some people are a little hesitant
Speaker 1: to get back into the dating scene. Hence phota fear
Speaker 1: of dating again. Now, apparently the term was first coined
Speaker 1: by Logan Ray, who's the director of relationship science for
Speaker 1: hinge uh, Austin's favorite dating app, uh It said that
Speaker 1: fifty one percent of Hinge users we're feeling phota. Hey,
Speaker 1: Jared fun fact as a majority, that is a majority
Speaker 1: right there. So the majority of people of of on
Speaker 1: Hinge was saying that they are fearing getting back in
Speaker 1: the dating scene. They say, quote or I said, dating
Speaker 1: is always anxiety provoking. Plus dating in the middle of
Speaker 1: a pandemic, it's not surprising that it's been a really
Speaker 1: trying time for people. So apparently people are a little
Speaker 1: nervous about getting back into the dating game. What do
Speaker 1: you think about this? I think people are excited. I
Speaker 1: also think people are hesitant. I mean, dude, dating is
Speaker 1: so freaking difficult today in like today's world. There's so
Speaker 1: much pressure. There's like so many different people at the
Speaker 1: tips of your fingers. Like you, you can literally go
Speaker 1: on your phone and you're exposed to thousands of people
Speaker 1: near you. And then here we are, everybody's out again dating.
Speaker 1: What do you think about food of photo? Well, I
Speaker 1: think the only reason you think so many people are
Speaker 1: itching to get back into the dating pool is because
Speaker 1: you're extroverted and outgoing. And I think that means that
Speaker 1: most of the people that you know are probably similar,
Speaker 1: and I bet you that number probably is like the
Speaker 1: more introverted, like reserve people that like a probably don't
Speaker 1: even really want to go be going out very much.
Speaker 1: But then also like the concept of meeting someone new
Speaker 1: is probably a pretty scared Yeah, a lot of us
Speaker 1: have been home alone. I mean, luckily for you and
Speaker 1: I we have were in relationships, so at least we're
Speaker 1: not like we didn't spend all of our time just
Speaker 1: in our own head, because that would be a disaster
Speaker 1: and I would probably be a psycho right now, even
Speaker 1: more psychotic than I already am. Um. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: and I don't know. I just feel like, see, I
Speaker 1: think people are going to get back to normal. I
Speaker 1: think people are going to ease right into it. I
Speaker 1: think there's all this hype around people feeling anxious or
Speaker 1: is it going to be different than the way it was.
Speaker 1: I think things are gonna get back to normal by
Speaker 1: the end of summer. Well, did CDC is saying that
Speaker 1: you probably don't even need to wear a mask anymore
Speaker 1: with if you have your vaccine vaccine, Yeah, if you're
Speaker 1: fully vaccinated. They're saying you don't need to wear a
Speaker 1: mask outdoors, And then certain businesses can still say you
Speaker 1: need to wear a mask indoors. But like the gym
Speaker 1: that I go to I go to the Edge Fitness
Speaker 1: and Warick, Rhode Island. I love it there. If you're
Speaker 1: listening to this podcast, catch shared at the Edge Fitness
Speaker 1: so nice. There's a movie theater in there with treadmills
Speaker 1: and bikes, so it's in the back and there's a
Speaker 1: movie theater room. You can go in there and you
Speaker 1: can run on the treadmill while watching a movie. And
Speaker 1: they have different movies playing each day, and there's a
Speaker 1: calendar outside to show you which movies playing. For example,
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago they had Major League Playing,
Speaker 1: which is one of my favorite sports movies of all time.
Speaker 1: So obviously went on the treadmill, did a little power
Speaker 1: walk while watching Major League. And it's pitch black in there,
Speaker 1: so you can't see other people running. It's pretty spectacular.
Speaker 1: That is That is pretty cool? Equalox who Fitness way sicker.
Speaker 1: Hey a little tangent before we get back into photo.
Speaker 1: I saw that Top Gun is being aired in movie
Speaker 1: theaters for the anniversary oh the original talk one. I
Speaker 1: know I want to go see. I want to see
Speaker 1: if there's showtimes around us. Dude, I freaking love Tom Cruise. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's we we know your affinity for time cruise. All right,
Speaker 1: so photo I I mean, I do think there's gonna
Speaker 1: be a little bit of as intency. I do think
Speaker 1: that people are going to be itching though. It's like,
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be one of the craziest
Speaker 1: summers ever because people are like so restless and they've
Speaker 1: got the restless like syndrome and they're just ready to
Speaker 1: get back out there kind of thing. I don't know
Speaker 1: what that means like health wise for everyone, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I know it's a little nerve account on which direction
Speaker 1: is going to go. But like, what the whole reason
Speaker 1: I brought up edge fitness is because now masks are
Speaker 1: optional because the CDC said that if you're fooling vaccine,
Speaker 1: you don't need to wear a mask indoors or outdoors.
Speaker 1: So now masks are optional in the gym, which is crazy. Um,
Speaker 1: I think I'm still gonna wear my mask. Um, because
Speaker 1: she's saying that's a real incentive for people because they're like, hey,
Speaker 1: you don't have to wear a mask indoors if you're
Speaker 1: getting vaccinated. Is Rhode Island a conservative state? Is its
Speaker 1: really a blue We usually goes blue? You know. What's
Speaker 1: so sad though, like we haven't even have to talk
Speaker 1: about politics when it comes to a virus. Doesn't that suck?
Speaker 1: The fact that like it's like, oh, depending on your
Speaker 1: views on the virus predicates on whether you're a red
Speaker 1: or blue state, And it's like that just blows, Like
Speaker 1: I can't believe a virus got politicized. It's sad anyhow
Speaker 1: not to go down this road. But there's you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's pretty, it's it's red and blue, but it
Speaker 1: usually votes right. Well, I know that Denver is about
Speaker 1: to open up to kind of like restriction free, very
Speaker 1: similar situation, like leave it to the business to decide
Speaker 1: whether they want to to require masks or not, So
Speaker 1: that'd be interesting. I mean, I like, you know, obviously
Speaker 1: I want everyone to be dave and do what you're
Speaker 1: comfortable with. But I mean, I think it's kind of
Speaker 1: like the left the other tunnel that we've all been
Speaker 1: waiting for, Like this is the moment that back in
Speaker 1: March of last year, when it was all starting to
Speaker 1: get locked down, you're like, dude, can this just be
Speaker 1: over already? And I think it lasted a lot longer
Speaker 1: than we all expected it too, But now it's like
Speaker 1: like now it's finally like, Okay, this is coming to
Speaker 1: an end, you know, like I think I think this
Speaker 1: like all of these states being like yeah, like you
Speaker 1: don't have to wear a mask if you don't want to,
Speaker 1: is like the biggest step that's been taken since since
Speaker 1: the virus even came out a thousand percent, Like the
Speaker 1: CDC saying no, you don't have to wear a mask
Speaker 1: outdoors or I think they They also said indoors if
Speaker 1: you're fully vaccinated. I mean, don't take my word for
Speaker 1: I were idiots talking up here, but like listen to
Speaker 1: the CDC, but I'm pretty sure the CDC said that
Speaker 1: indoors or outdoors, you don't need to wear a mask
Speaker 1: if you're fully vaccinated two weeks after you get your
Speaker 1: second DOSSE. My only question with that is like, no
Speaker 1: one's going to carry on their vaccination card with them,
Speaker 1: so they're just gonna have to take their word for it.
Speaker 1: Like That's what I was curious too. Yeah, can you
Speaker 1: just say it, dude. I've got some some friends, some
Speaker 1: of my brothers. Bachelor party wasn't We were on a
Speaker 1: rock climbing trip out in Utah and uh, some of
Speaker 1: the kids that were out there grew up in Colorado
Speaker 1: with me and your aspen, and so they're all like,
Speaker 1: you know, mountain town kids, like salt of the Earth
Speaker 1: type people like me, me, but worse, like grunger than me,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And a lot of them
Speaker 1: are not a lot of them. But I heard stories
Speaker 1: through my brother's friends talking about how some people up
Speaker 1: there like they're they're um, you know, like he used
Speaker 1: to make like fake ideas to get into bars. If
Speaker 1: they're like making fake vaccination cards because they don't want
Speaker 1: to get the vaccine but they want the perks of
Speaker 1: being a vaccinated individual. It's not kind of crazy. That's insane.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was only amount of time before somebody
Speaker 1: started doing that. And the car I mean, I'm sure
Speaker 1: that cards are easy enough to forge. It's basically just
Speaker 1: like a little card with the stamp on it. But
Speaker 1: I was just like, that's I thought that was pretty crazy.
Speaker 1: That is insane, dude, This whole thing is insane. COVID
Speaker 1: changed the world, any who, speaking of change in the world,
Speaker 1: phota fear of dating again, So because most of us
Speaker 1: have been home so long, or I continues, there's definitely
Speaker 1: people who are nervous about getting back to dating where
Speaker 1: we were seeing. What we're seeing amongst our users is
Speaker 1: that people are really nervous for that first day. And
Speaker 1: like we just talked about, you know, mass are getting
Speaker 1: rid of. I think people are starting to get back
Speaker 1: into normal life. I think most people will be able
Speaker 1: to fall back into it, especially most people are getting vaccinated.
Speaker 1: They're going to feel more comfortable going outside because they're
Speaker 1: gonna feel more protected. Um, but of course there'll be
Speaker 1: people who still feel nervous, and you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: everybody just needs to make the best decision for themselves.
Speaker 1: But I think I think we're gonna get back to
Speaker 1: a little bit too normal. And I think people are
Speaker 1: like saying they're fearful dating again, but I think people
Speaker 1: who are fearful dating again have always been nervous going
Speaker 1: on dates. And that's the majority of us. I remember
Speaker 1: when I was single, I'd be nervous before every single day,
Speaker 1: you know, because it's like sometimes dates suck, and like
Speaker 1: I'm nervous to be like, am I gonna have to
Speaker 1: carry the conversation throughout the entire date or we're gonna
Speaker 1: get along? Is she gonna be a nice person? You know?
Speaker 1: These are all things I thought about before day, and
Speaker 1: it's like, this could be a terrible night, and that's
Speaker 1: what I was fearful of, and you're right, so you're
Speaker 1: fearful of that, and then now you have to also
Speaker 1: factor in the fact that you're fearful of COVID, and
Speaker 1: so it's like you're putting a lot more pressure on
Speaker 1: a date being good because of date's bad. You're like,
Speaker 1: oh crap, Like I'm going out of my comfort zone
Speaker 1: to go on a date because I'm trying to start
Speaker 1: dating again, but now it's bad, and I'm also worried
Speaker 1: about you know, COVID and all that kind of stuff too,
Speaker 1: So it's like it adds extra pressure to the date
Speaker 1: and I think it's gonna make people more selective, which
Speaker 1: is a good thing. But I mean, yeah, it's it's
Speaker 1: like you said, man, thankfully we don't have to do that.
Speaker 1: I know. I feel bad for single people out there.
Speaker 1: Are all you single people listening to help I suck
Speaker 1: in dating? Right now? We're sending our love your way.
Speaker 1: We hope that you guys have a a great summer
Speaker 1: and hopefully a fun, healthy, safe summer, but we're thinking
Speaker 1: of you. Um. Another article here from People magazine. Do
Speaker 1: you know who Shana Mochler is? No idea, no idea either.
Speaker 1: Who is this person? Why is she in People magazine?
Speaker 1: You know what's so funny people say the exact same
Speaker 1: thing about me. Okay, thank god for Ashley. So Shana
Speaker 1: Mokeler is apparently Travis Parker's X. Travors Travis Barker's Ashley.
Speaker 1: Why don't come here and help me with this article?
Speaker 1: Really quickly helped Dena and I fill some put some
Speaker 1: context here to the people. Okay, So the headline is
Speaker 1: Shana Mokler calls Travis Barker's pd A with Courtney Kardashian
Speaker 1: quote weird and explains her shady post. Do you know
Speaker 1: anything about this past? Okay? Well, Phil Dean and I
Speaker 1: in Travis Barker was metried to this. She's like a
Speaker 1: pageant queen, like beauty model. I don't know, that's Shana
Speaker 1: and she was always a drama queen and now she's
Speaker 1: just weighing in on how public Travis and Courtney have
Speaker 1: been with their p d A. You know, I gotta
Speaker 1: be honest, until this very moment, I always thought it
Speaker 1: was Travis Parker, like Peter Parker really. Yeah, I never knew,
Speaker 1: Like Charles moment, is that what I mean? Come on,
Speaker 1: they sound a B and a P. You know, if
Speaker 1: I'm over the phone described like spelling my name, I
Speaker 1: have to say B as in boy because it either
Speaker 1: sounds like P or D. You know, you guys get
Speaker 1: that right anyway. So apparently Courtney Kardashian is dating Travis Barker,
Speaker 1: which I knew even though though it was Parker and
Speaker 1: her ex Shana Mochler said, I'm very much over my ex.
Speaker 1: It's been a long time. However, do I think some
Speaker 1: of the P D A and that he's doing with
Speaker 1: her is weird? Yes? Uh. The movie True Romance that
Speaker 1: I feel like they've been bonding over was the theme
Speaker 1: of our wedding. I didn't know anything about them, Travis
Speaker 1: and Courtney bonding over True Romance. Great movie, though, Odd
Speaker 1: Daughters named after the character in the movie. Oh, that's
Speaker 1: kind of weird. Then flying banners overhead like we did
Speaker 1: on Meet the Barkers, which apparently was a reality TV
Speaker 1: show with him, stuff like that. I just think it's weird. Hey, Jared,
Speaker 1: let let us and chime in on this one. I
Speaker 1: think he's got something to say, I just want to
Speaker 1: stay really quick. I'm I'm a big Blink one eighty
Speaker 1: two fan. I'm obsessed with them. So Travis Barker and
Speaker 1: shaneum Mogler had a reality show called Meet the Barkers,
Speaker 1: and uh, the story goes that Blink Way two went
Speaker 1: into the studio one day and Travis like showed up
Speaker 1: with a bunch of cameras and he's like, hey, guys,
Speaker 1: I have a new reality show and we have to
Speaker 1: write the theme song right now. And it caused a
Speaker 1: lot of stress in the band and they broke up
Speaker 1: shortly thereafter. So I kind of blame not her, but
Speaker 1: I blame yeah, Travis and that relationship for crossing the
Speaker 1: end of Blink Win eighty two. Uh. So that's that's
Speaker 1: just the background I have on her, That's all I
Speaker 1: want to say. Uh, he's the drummer. He's the drummer.
Speaker 1: So Cordy kard Ashton is dating the drummer of Blink
Speaker 1: one two or the band formally they're they're back together now.
Speaker 1: Ashley's chiming in the background. I got nothing pull on.
Speaker 1: And Travis Barker arguably is the most famous member of
Speaker 1: Blink w eight two yeah. I think. I think, like
Speaker 1: my mom knows who Travis Barker is, but she doesn't
Speaker 1: know Tom DeLong or Mark hoppis the other two people
Speaker 1: in the band. Uh. And he's I think he's the
Speaker 1: most wealthy too, because he has that clothing line and everything.
Speaker 1: But um, Anyway, that's why I just wanted to set
Speaker 1: the record straight on him and Shannon. First of all,
Speaker 1: I didn't know that he was the drummer of Blink
Speaker 1: one eighty two. I actually am way more invested in
Speaker 1: this relationship now having known that, because like Eastern, I
Speaker 1: love b Link one two. I am your generic cliche
Speaker 1: white boy who grew up in the nineties loving Third
Speaker 1: Eye Blind, Blink one eighty two, Uh, Nirvana? What else? One?
Speaker 1: Are the bands? The Killers? Jared Jared? Who was? Who
Speaker 1: was the Shannon girl before Travis? I have no idea
Speaker 1: of pageant a playboy model. She was playboy mode. They
Speaker 1: had three kids and now they're now they're divorced. Okay,
Speaker 1: so they had three kids. So she's piste off because
Speaker 1: what she's saying is that Travis is using some of
Speaker 1: the same moves on Courtney that he used on her. Specifically,
Speaker 1: with their references Towards True Romance, which apparently one of
Speaker 1: their daughters is named after one of the characters in
Speaker 1: the movie. Listen. I get it. I understand why she'd
Speaker 1: be a little p oed about that. But at the
Speaker 1: same time, I've always kind of excused people using similar
Speaker 1: moves that they used with their ex on their new
Speaker 1: significant other because you're only one person, You're only so
Speaker 1: creative and like, also like I'm sorry, I like for
Speaker 1: me personally, I loved Rob Thomas in Matchbox before I
Speaker 1: started dating Ashley. So even though ever the same as
Speaker 1: our wedding song, it like you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: it might have been my Like I hate saying this,
Speaker 1: but it might have been like a wedding song, like
Speaker 1: I always envisioned that wedding song before it Ashley. That
Speaker 1: makes sense, Yeah, absolutely, and it doesn't change She's super
Speaker 1: piste off right now. But if I'm being honest and
Speaker 1: vulnerable and truthful on this podcast, like it would be
Speaker 1: like you know what I mean, Like everyone's got the
Speaker 1: same moves all and here she comes. No, I had
Speaker 1: a wedding song in my head before I met you,
Speaker 1: and I didn't use it because I didn't want for
Speaker 1: like the mental image of like what I had to that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you pictured marrying someone else that song. Yeah, that's why
Speaker 1: I never even it was never considered. I didn't play
Speaker 1: it at the wedding or anything like that. Interesting, but
Speaker 1: you imagine yourself. I wouldn't say him to imagine. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't say imagine myself, but I would say that. I
Speaker 1: I always thought like, that would be the song I'm
Speaker 1: going to, you know, use as my first song whenever
Speaker 1: I get married, And unfortunately I dated people before you.
Speaker 1: It sound like I envisioned it, but it's like an
Speaker 1: offended or I care at all. I think this is
Speaker 1: a funny conversation. Um. But the song that I walked
Speaker 1: down the aisle to the hands and song that I
Speaker 1: made sure when I heard it for this the first time,
Speaker 1: I was like, you're not going to associate this song
Speaker 1: with anyone. You know, you're buying this crap. I was like,
Speaker 1: this song is so incredible. You can tell me you
Speaker 1: never thought in your head once in your life, while
Speaker 1: you thought for ten years this was gonna be the
Speaker 1: song that you walked down the aisle too. You never
Speaker 1: envisioned who the groom would be. I really, I really
Speaker 1: tried to keep it more vague. Get out of here.
Speaker 1: We don't lie on this podcast. Actually, I already told
Speaker 1: you the truth about the other song, which is why
Speaker 1: it wasn't even you're saying that you didn't use it.
Speaker 1: Now the one you're saying you did use, you never envisioned. Yes,
Speaker 1: So why is that so hard to believe? You're just
Speaker 1: trying to create content. No, I'm being very truthful. I
Speaker 1: find it hard to believe that you never envisioned once
Speaker 1: while you're maybe what maybe you never envisioned Leonardo DiCaprio
Speaker 1: standing at the aisle, I'm just making I just can
Speaker 1: I say something? Can you put me on to make
Speaker 1: sure that Dean wants to chime in here? Goodness? So
Speaker 1: this is this is my take on it. I don't
Speaker 1: I don't disbelieve Ashley. I think she's right, but I
Speaker 1: think she's leaving out a key detail. I think it's
Speaker 1: not that she never imagined her walking down the aisle
Speaker 1: with a single person. It's that to the song. It's
Speaker 1: that she imagined herself walking down the aisle with so
Speaker 1: many different people, and that's how she kept it big
Speaker 1: and she didn't personalize it because she was like, oh,
Speaker 1: Brad Pitt, Leonardo DiCaprio, Oh, this guy who, this guy who,
Speaker 1: this guy, and so that way, it's it's it's never
Speaker 1: gonna be meaningful because it's with so many different guys.
Speaker 1: Until obviously she did it with you. I really never imagine.
Speaker 1: I did not imagine my wedding with that many people.
Speaker 1: I promise. Well, I'm just I think it's I think
Speaker 1: it's just it's human nature to imagine that, you know,
Speaker 1: the most beautiful day of your life with just kind
Speaker 1: of like rerunning it in your head and seeing how
Speaker 1: it would go if you know it was Robert Pattinson
Speaker 1: walking you down the aisle instead of Taylor Lot. In
Speaker 1: her guarantee, Ashley's envisioned herself walking down the aisle to
Speaker 1: Joe Jonas to yes as a twenty year old old
Speaker 1: for sure, decap, I mean that is really early on.
Speaker 1: That's like, that's like a preteen McConaughey. No, even after
Speaker 1: the wedding planner Jared, I was in seventh grade. Then
Speaker 1: what are the wrong comes? Oh what's his face from
Speaker 1: what's the movie your favorite movie of all time? Well,
Speaker 1: that's Titanic, No, the other one, remember watch to remember
Speaker 1: what's his name is Jerry Um Shane West. But during
Speaker 1: that phase, but you grow up with it, so definitely
Speaker 1: like grade college that point. Yeah, but when you heard
Speaker 1: the song, you thought, oh my god, I'm gonna walk
Speaker 1: down the aisle with Shane West waiting for me. Is
Speaker 1: very funny. But you know me, very know, very well
Speaker 1: that I did not think. You really think what about
Speaker 1: when you were in Chris soul season this song? Oh,
Speaker 1: the song did exist when I was on the song
Speaker 1: did exist? And she was no, I don't think. I
Speaker 1: don't think so. I don't think I ever got to
Speaker 1: picture my wedding with Chris anyway. All right, but very
Speaker 1: very fun What the hell were we have been talking about?
Speaker 1: I think it's a bad time we go ahead and
Speaker 1: say goodbye for the week. What do you say? That
Speaker 1: was that we went on a tangent there? Holy no,
Speaker 1: it's nice. It was. I appreciate that. That was really
Speaker 1: good and live into the conversation. It definitely enriched the
Speaker 1: podcast a little bit, So I appreciate that. I'm exhausted though.
Speaker 1: That was tiring. Yeah, well you know you should go
Speaker 1: take a nap. I want to go ahead and say
Speaker 1: thank you to you and your lovely wife for joining
Speaker 1: us on the podcast. Um, big thank you to Austin.
Speaker 1: Be sure to go check out his dating app called
Speaker 1: the Locks Club and see if it's coming to a
Speaker 1: sitting near you anytime soon. In the meantime, just jump
Speaker 1: on the app and find the high standard uh person
Speaker 1: that you're you're so desiring for. So that didn't really
Speaker 1: make any sense, but I'm just gonna keep on rolling
Speaker 1: with it. Big thank you to myself for having to
Speaker 1: listen and indoor through Jared and Ashley uh talking for
Speaker 1: hours on end. That is a that is a job
Speaker 1: in it itself, my friend. Um. Anyways, thank you to
Speaker 1: Easton and Riley for always being the best of the best.
Speaker 1: And be sure to tune in next week folks, because
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