WEBVTT - exclusive sit down with Golden Brookes celebrating Girlfriends 25th Anniversary 0:00:02.320 --> 0:00:04.760 I'm a homegirl that knows a little bit about everything 0:00:04.840 --> 0:00:05.680 and everybody. 0:00:06.519 --> 0:00:07.880 You don't know if you don't lie about that, right, 0:00:07.960 --> 0:00:08.520 Lauren can't. 0:00:10.840 --> 0:00:13.600 Hey, y'all, it's Laura L. Rosa and this is the 0:00:13.680 --> 0:00:14.640 Latest with Lauren L. 0:00:14.760 --> 0:00:15.160 Rosa. 0:00:15.280 --> 0:00:18.840 This is your daily dig on all things pop culture, entertainment, news, 0:00:19.079 --> 0:00:22.760 and the conversations that shake the room. Now, when we 0:00:22.760 --> 0:00:25.760 talk about conversations that shake the room, we know that 0:00:25.840 --> 0:00:28.960 y'all love when we bring the live conversations, the sit 0:00:29.080 --> 0:00:32.240 downs here on the podcast. So I got something really 0:00:32.280 --> 0:00:35.800 really special for all of my lowriders today if you've 0:00:35.840 --> 0:00:37.760 ever seen the show Girlfriends. And I kind of feel 0:00:37.800 --> 0:00:40.519 like a little like a dub when I say that, 0:00:40.520 --> 0:00:43.360 because who hasn't seen the show Girlfriends? But if you 0:00:43.479 --> 0:00:45.760 have or have not seen the show Girlfriends, we are 0:00:45.760 --> 0:00:47.960 going to talk a lot about it today in this 0:00:48.120 --> 0:00:50.879 episode because we have a icon joining us. 0:00:51.200 --> 0:00:54.040 Ms Golden Brooks, who played Maya on. 0:00:54.000 --> 0:00:56.440 The show, will be joining us to talk about in 0:00:56.520 --> 0:00:59.680 our exhibition that has taking place in la June twenty 0:00:59.760 --> 0:01:03.480 ninth in June twenty eighth at the Line Hotel in 0:01:03.600 --> 0:01:06.160 La So. On June twenty ninth and June twenty eighth 0:01:06.200 --> 0:01:07.679 or June twenty eighth and June twenty nineth. 0:01:07.680 --> 0:01:09.720 I'm like, why am I saying it backwards. 0:01:09.360 --> 0:01:11.280 Like that you'll be able to come out and check 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:13.640 out some art pieces that were all created by black 0:01:13.680 --> 0:01:18.560 women artists and photographers. Because Girlfriends, the show is turning 0:01:18.680 --> 0:01:22.240 twenty five or has turned twenty five this year. So 0:01:22.520 --> 0:01:25.240 we and when I say we, we talked to Golden 0:01:25.280 --> 0:01:28.000 Brooks me Delaney George, who was the co founder of 0:01:28.240 --> 0:01:29.200 DCDG and Co. 0:01:29.720 --> 0:01:31.679 She put the whole exhibition together. 0:01:31.840 --> 0:01:33.800 She figures out, like, you know, what is the focus 0:01:33.800 --> 0:01:36.959 of the exhibition, who will be focusing on what? And 0:01:37.000 --> 0:01:38.680 then you know, she puts all the pieces to the 0:01:38.680 --> 0:01:41.720 puzzle together. So she brought me in with an amazing 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:43.440 dope artist named Brittany Bird. 0:01:43.720 --> 0:01:45.800 Brittany is creating. 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:47.600 Some of the pieces in the show as well as 0:01:47.640 --> 0:01:50.000 helping to you know, bring other artists into the show 0:01:50.040 --> 0:01:53.480 as well. And in conversation with Golden Brooks, we got 0:01:53.480 --> 0:01:55.200 to talk a lot about what the show meant to 0:01:55.280 --> 0:01:59.120 us and pour into Golden Brooks maya from Girlfriends just 0:01:59.240 --> 0:02:02.880 on her and what that looks like for us at 0:02:02.960 --> 0:02:06.000 our ages and you know, we started watching Girlfriends so 0:02:06.240 --> 0:02:08.960 long ago. She you know, Golden Brooks is in this 0:02:09.040 --> 0:02:11.680 conversation just receiving all of the flowers, but for a 0:02:11.720 --> 0:02:14.480 lot of the conversations, she's kind of in awe still 0:02:14.800 --> 0:02:16.440 of the impact of Girlfriends. 0:02:16.440 --> 0:02:18.080 But mar Brock, I. 0:02:18.160 --> 0:02:24.480 Kill Golden, Tracy Ellis, Ross Lynn at everybody who has 0:02:24.560 --> 0:02:28.640 played on this series, Jill, Marie Jones. I think that 0:02:28.680 --> 0:02:31.320 they all and somewhat and in some way understand how 0:02:31.360 --> 0:02:33.000 important they are. But I think it's different when you 0:02:33.000 --> 0:02:35.760 get to hear it firsthand from women creatives who've been 0:02:35.760 --> 0:02:37.040 inspired by the work. 0:02:37.320 --> 0:02:38.480 So that's what we're doing here. 0:02:38.919 --> 0:02:41.320 So take a listen to this exclusive sit down with 0:02:41.440 --> 0:02:44.640 Golden Brooks maya of Girlfriends as we celebrate twenty five 0:02:44.720 --> 0:02:54.080 years of the show. All right, all right, morning morning, 0:02:54.760 --> 0:02:57.079 y'all are glowed up for lining and on a Sunday, 0:02:58.360 --> 0:03:01.799 all of y'all are giving and all are glowing. I'm 0:03:01.800 --> 0:03:05.080 really excited to be here. I've been in preparation for 0:03:05.120 --> 0:03:08.200 this conversation. I've been watching a lot of Girlfriends and 0:03:09.639 --> 0:03:11.760 conversations that I went back through some of the art 0:03:12.480 --> 0:03:14.920 that we selected or that was a part of the 0:03:15.000 --> 0:03:18.160 major selection, and we narrowed it down to for the 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:22.640 exhibition that is happening in LA and I don't know. 0:03:22.680 --> 0:03:23.880 I think it's just so dope. 0:03:23.919 --> 0:03:27.000 How you know, a show that we watch and now 0:03:27.040 --> 0:03:29.440 have been able to rewatch with our mothers or grandmothers 0:03:29.480 --> 0:03:31.760 and nieces, our aunties and you know, all these people 0:03:31.760 --> 0:03:34.200 that are in our lives is now like we're now 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:36.720 talking about it in a way of art and exhibition. 0:03:36.840 --> 0:03:39.320 I think that it's amazing to see art be able 0:03:39.320 --> 0:03:41.400 to be communicated in so many different ways. So I'm 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:45.000 excited for this conversation. You know, I know you guys 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:46.720 are without introduction, but if you want to just say 0:03:46.720 --> 0:03:48.480 hello really quick to the audience and lets them know 0:03:48.560 --> 0:03:51.160 what part you guys are playing in this, you know, 0:03:51.240 --> 0:03:54.360 twenty five year anniversary art exhibition that we're putting on 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:56.800 in LA that will be open to the public in 0:03:56.840 --> 0:03:57.520 a few weeks. 0:03:57.840 --> 0:03:59.160 I think that that would be a great way to 0:03:59.200 --> 0:03:59.680 kick it off. 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:03.400 Yeah, okay, oh, Golden, you go ahead, Golden. 0:04:03.320 --> 0:04:04.160 Oh you go first. 0:04:04.680 --> 0:04:08.440 Okay, Okay, Well, Nati, Hi everybody on the live. 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:09.960 I'm Delaney George. 0:04:09.960 --> 0:04:13.720 I'm the co founder of Creative Fine Arts Agency DCDG. Also, 0:04:14.080 --> 0:04:17.960 this is our first iteration of our new brain child, 0:04:18.240 --> 0:04:22.640 Iconic Visions, which basically partners legends like Golden works here 0:04:22.720 --> 0:04:27.640 and other people of multiple industries, whether it's music, sports, entertainment, 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:30.120 and put them in the role of the curator. So 0:04:30.200 --> 0:04:32.560 kind of like you said, Lauren, taking something that we 0:04:32.680 --> 0:04:35.599 all know in love within our culture and then bring 0:04:35.600 --> 0:04:38.520 it into find our in the galleries and putting a 0:04:38.560 --> 0:04:40.839 contemporary towist on something that we all know and love. 0:04:40.880 --> 0:04:43.560 So I'm super excited to be talking about this with 0:04:43.680 --> 0:04:45.600 you all, but also to be bringing this to life 0:04:45.640 --> 0:04:49.120 with so many incredible black women artists. That's what it's 0:04:49.160 --> 0:04:52.000 really about, That's what's connecting us. So I'm excited to 0:04:52.000 --> 0:04:52.600 get into it. 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:56.080 Hi, everybody in the live I'm so excited to be 0:04:56.120 --> 0:04:58.359 a part of this project. My name is Brandan Bird, 0:04:58.440 --> 0:05:01.560 and I am a multi high far artists and creative 0:05:02.040 --> 0:05:05.000 and I am exhibiting a piece in the show and 0:05:05.040 --> 0:05:06.240 I'm just like heartful. 0:05:10.000 --> 0:05:12.920 Oh gosh, Hi you guys. I'm Golden Brooks. 0:05:14.160 --> 0:05:20.000 Aka my Denise Wilks. I just I I was asked to, 0:05:21.000 --> 0:05:24.719 you know, sort of come along this journey and help 0:05:25.080 --> 0:05:30.240 curate and just pick some amazing art pieces from some 0:05:30.320 --> 0:05:33.880 of these you know, these artists, and. 0:05:33.600 --> 0:05:35.440 To work with the d C d G, it's just 0:05:35.560 --> 0:05:36.679 it feels like such an honor. 0:05:36.800 --> 0:05:40.440 I feel I feel very honored, and I'm I still 0:05:40.480 --> 0:05:43.919 get really emotional when we were talking about any girlfriends 0:05:44.480 --> 0:05:46.200 and just knowing. 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:50.680 That the show is still is still moving and and 0:05:50.680 --> 0:05:51.360 and being. 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:55.800 Celebrated and empowering communities, and it's being used to to 0:05:56.000 --> 0:06:00.640 as the muse for for this particular art exhibition. 0:06:01.360 --> 0:06:03.240 It's mind blowing all of us. 0:06:03.279 --> 0:06:06.680 Tracy, Jill Persia and I we're just blown away at 0:06:06.720 --> 0:06:11.440 the amount of just love and support and still the 0:06:11.520 --> 0:06:14.760 train is moving, and I think it just shows that 0:06:14.760 --> 0:06:18.000 we need more of this, We need more representation and 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:21.839 just girlfriends to be able to be in the art space, 0:06:21.880 --> 0:06:25.119 which I love. I'm a huge art lover. I feel 0:06:25.160 --> 0:06:27.000 very honored, So thank you for having me. 0:06:27.800 --> 0:06:29.800 This is a show that we all know and love 0:06:29.839 --> 0:06:32.760 and all girls, but now to be taking it from 0:06:32.880 --> 0:06:35.400 the screen and putting it on canvas or gallery wall, 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:38.000 I think that's something that everybody can relate to. So 0:06:38.040 --> 0:06:40.760 even if you're a person that's not traditionally trained harder, 0:06:41.000 --> 0:06:42.839 you're not into it all the time. I think this 0:06:42.960 --> 0:06:45.320 show is going to bring something for everyone to be 0:06:45.400 --> 0:06:45.919 involved in. 0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:52.480 It really is a collection about what sisterhood looks like. 0:06:52.880 --> 0:06:55.239 Yes, and the pieces are. 0:06:56.200 --> 0:07:00.440 Beautiful, and I mean I think that girlfriend and what 0:07:00.480 --> 0:07:04.040 it represents to me is the whole culture of what 0:07:04.080 --> 0:07:07.320 it is to be and not just a brown woman, 0:07:07.400 --> 0:07:11.239 but but female womanhood, from our hair to our skin 0:07:11.440 --> 0:07:16.200 to how we connect physically metaphysically. I mean some of 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:20.960 the art pieces were so metaphorical and and you know what, 0:07:21.000 --> 0:07:23.400 I feel like, art is kind of like a really 0:07:24.040 --> 0:07:26.960 good dish. Like some people, you may not know what 0:07:27.000 --> 0:07:30.320 you're eating. You may not know all ingredients and sometimes 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:32.360 intimidating when you go to, you know, a certain restaurant, 0:07:32.400 --> 0:07:34.680 you're like, oh, what is it? But once you eat it, 0:07:34.680 --> 0:07:37.200 it's texture, it's feeling. You just you just know when 0:07:37.200 --> 0:07:39.680 you know, and and you don't always have to have 0:07:39.720 --> 0:07:41.880 the right terminology. But when you look at something and 0:07:41.920 --> 0:07:46.040 it moved you and it evokes an emotion, that's when 0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:48.600 you know that that piece is for you. 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:50.760 You know it's all feeling true. 0:07:51.080 --> 0:07:53.160 Yeah, and Golden, this is kind of like another full 0:07:53.160 --> 0:07:55.080 circle woman for you, because you guys are The African 0:07:55.120 --> 0:07:56.720 American Museum. 0:07:56.360 --> 0:08:01.920 In DC we we were, We absolutely were our art. 0:08:02.520 --> 0:08:06.960 It's just it's you know, I think because Girlfriends was 0:08:07.000 --> 0:08:08.160 so iconic, I feel so. 0:08:08.120 --> 0:08:09.760 Old when I say that, I'm like iconic. 0:08:10.960 --> 0:08:13.840 But I think because it was one of the first 0:08:13.840 --> 0:08:18.840 shows that actually celebrated or you know, maur bucka kill, 0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:22.520 you know, hats off to her showing black women doing 0:08:22.600 --> 0:08:24.600 yoga and eating sushi and. 0:08:24.920 --> 0:08:27.000 Wearing fly clothes designer. 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:29.200 I think that was the first time I ever heard about, 0:08:29.280 --> 0:08:33.240 you know, the well, not really the Burken Bag, because 0:08:33.240 --> 0:08:35.319 Sex and the City did it, but you had women 0:08:35.320 --> 0:08:37.880 of women of color wearing designer. 0:08:38.280 --> 0:08:41.400 You know. We talked about it, and. 0:08:42.640 --> 0:08:45.400 I just think that on so many levels it showcased 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:48.160 us in a way that we hadn't seen ourselves and 0:08:48.240 --> 0:08:50.760 all of our flaws, you know. And I think that 0:08:50.760 --> 0:08:53.440 that's something that I think women of color it was. 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:58.480 It opened up a whole new conversation piece on the 0:08:58.520 --> 0:09:04.040 black woman and what that looks like, you know, and 0:09:04.240 --> 0:09:07.560 I think museums. I think it should be celebrated, and 0:09:07.600 --> 0:09:11.560 I think Girlfriends really was sort of the catalyst for 0:09:11.600 --> 0:09:14.040 a lot of other amazing shows that have that have 0:09:14.120 --> 0:09:16.520 come after it. So I feel very proud to be 0:09:16.360 --> 0:09:17.080 to be part of that. 0:09:18.320 --> 0:09:20.559 Well, Golden kind of talked a little bit about what 0:09:20.600 --> 0:09:23.080 the show meant to her, but for everyone else here, 0:09:23.080 --> 0:09:25.200 I would love to know the first time you watched 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:29.679 this is like an Icebregger, first time you watched Girlfriends? What, 0:09:30.840 --> 0:09:33.360 like what did it represent like right away to you? 0:09:33.760 --> 0:09:35.680 And like, I feel like there's a version of us 0:09:35.720 --> 0:09:36.479 who watched. 0:09:36.240 --> 0:09:38.439 It now as we're older, But try. 0:09:38.280 --> 0:09:40.400 And think back to like the very first time you 0:09:40.520 --> 0:09:42.120 watched the series. 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:47.040 I'm like, I think I want to say it might 0:09:47.080 --> 0:09:50.080 have been like around like maybe two thousand and. 0:09:50.880 --> 0:09:51.760 Three or four. 0:09:52.200 --> 0:09:56.000 My mom used to religiously watch Girlfriends like get a 0:09:57.160 --> 0:09:59.360 and then tune in and like we would literally sit 0:09:59.440 --> 0:10:02.559 in front of tea together. So in a way, Girlfriends 0:10:02.640 --> 0:10:05.720 represents like a motherly bond for me because that's. 0:10:05.559 --> 0:10:07.280 Something that my mom did together. 0:10:07.360 --> 0:10:10.240 Like that was we ate our dinner watch Girlfriends, and 0:10:10.280 --> 0:10:13.520 my mom would literally cold Maya's like, oh hell no 0:10:13.760 --> 0:10:18.320 all the time, she's probably watching this get in here, 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:19.160 clean this rip. 0:10:21.000 --> 0:10:21.679 Exactly. 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:24.680 So I mean that was definitely a bonding moment for 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:26.920 me and my mom, Like so early early two thousands 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:29.319 for sure. And then it's like when I when I 0:10:29.360 --> 0:10:32.920 saw just the imagery of these black women. I me 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:37.160 being that age, I didn't really get to Laura digest 0:10:37.360 --> 0:10:39.960 like all of like the drama and the serious. Yeah, 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:44.080 but they were just so beautiful and like fabulous in 0:10:44.080 --> 0:10:48.479 the fashion in a stop. Like every single episode, everybody 0:10:48.600 --> 0:10:51.360 was on point Tony with all of her designer and 0:10:51.400 --> 0:10:55.600 her product. Like I was crazy because, like I mean, 0:10:55.640 --> 0:10:58.079 growing up in New Orleans, like I, we just did 0:10:58.120 --> 0:11:00.120 not see that type of caliber of black women. And 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:02.800 I think you said, like that golden like that didn't 0:11:02.880 --> 0:11:06.320 just expose, you know, that exposed to everyone. 0:11:05.920 --> 0:11:08.600 To like the fact that this is what we can be. 0:11:08.880 --> 0:11:12.120 These black women do exist, and that was like my 0:11:12.160 --> 0:11:14.600 first occurrences with it. It was inspiring to see that, 0:11:14.679 --> 0:11:16.920 but also it was a bonding moment for me and 0:11:16.960 --> 0:11:17.320 my mom. 0:11:17.760 --> 0:11:19.840 I love that so amazing. 0:11:21.360 --> 0:11:24.079 I think I started watching it and maybe like two 0:11:24.200 --> 0:11:26.480 thousand or two thousand and one, I was definitely like 0:11:26.520 --> 0:11:29.160 in elementary school, but it was just like always on 0:11:29.280 --> 0:11:32.040 in my house, and it was like, wait a minute, 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:34.599 they're owning homes and miracle miles. 0:11:36.600 --> 0:11:39.280 Right in the cities. They were, like y'all were. 0:11:39.600 --> 0:11:41.839 Because when I was thirty, I was like, wait, because 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:45.280 in Girlfriends they were like twenty nine, thirty thirty one, right. 0:11:45.800 --> 0:11:48.600 Right, yeah, and like growing up it's like, oh wait, 0:11:49.360 --> 0:11:51.679 twenty eight with real jobs, law firms. 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:55.280 Yeah, that was cool for me to see. 0:11:55.120 --> 0:11:58.520 Because it definitely gave me like inspiration, like you can 0:11:58.920 --> 0:12:02.839 be out landishly loud, you can be yourself, you can 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:04.520 be exceptionally beautiful. 0:12:05.000 --> 0:12:09.400 So yeah, it was a lot of for me. Yeah. 0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:12.440 Same, I agree with both of you guys sentiments. For me, 0:12:12.520 --> 0:12:15.400 I think the first time I watched it younger, it 0:12:15.440 --> 0:12:18.160 was just like it reminded me of like my group 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:19.840 of friends and like my family, like theirs, Like you 0:12:19.840 --> 0:12:21.960 always have the aunt who has a great job and 0:12:22.559 --> 0:12:24.880 you can tell her lifestyle. You go to her house 0:12:24.880 --> 0:12:26.640 and it's like, oh my god, and then you got 0:12:26.679 --> 0:12:30.200 your homework like it. There were so many different people 0:12:30.280 --> 0:12:32.719 in one show, but they all were together, and I 0:12:32.760 --> 0:12:34.640 don't think I've ever seen that, cause I think other 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:36.560 than that, a show that sits out to me is 0:12:36.600 --> 0:12:39.760 like a Mosha. But it was different because she was younger, 0:12:39.840 --> 0:12:42.320 she was figuring things out. She was you know, like 0:12:42.360 --> 0:12:46.560 there was a certain unapologeticness in Girlfriends for each character 0:12:46.600 --> 0:12:49.280 in different ways, And I was young, like, wait, hold 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:53.120 on because she just wait because yeah. 0:12:52.960 --> 0:12:54.920 So figuring all those things out as I was. 0:12:54.920 --> 0:12:55.840 Learning and growing. 0:12:55.920 --> 0:12:58.360 Now I'm like, oh. 0:13:00.880 --> 0:13:04.400 They rewatch it different. The rewatch it's crazy. 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:08.640 I was like, wait, this is actually unhinged activities. 0:13:09.720 --> 0:13:11.719 So do you guys feel like now you guys are 0:13:11.760 --> 0:13:14.480 still so young, and I mean, and I know you 0:13:14.559 --> 0:13:16.960 watched it with your mom's when you look at it now, 0:13:17.880 --> 0:13:19.880 even for me when I look at it now, you know, 0:13:20.720 --> 0:13:22.960 twenty five years later, and I sometimes I see so 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:25.000 many memes now online like. 0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:26.400 Who was the most toxic friend? 0:13:26.640 --> 0:13:29.680 Or you know, but looking at it now, now that 0:13:29.720 --> 0:13:33.800 you guys are older, more mature, does it resonate in 0:13:33.840 --> 0:13:37.360 a way that do you feel something different? Do you 0:13:37.400 --> 0:13:40.160 feel like you're more connected to one or the other 0:13:40.679 --> 0:13:43.560 now that you're in a space of living your full, 0:13:45.280 --> 0:13:46.520 flushed out lives. 0:13:46.760 --> 0:13:51.160 Hell, yeah, oh my god, I'll be watching that. I'll 0:13:51.200 --> 0:13:53.920 rewatched it a few years ago with my mom and 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:56.440 then I've just rewatched it on my own, just and 0:13:56.520 --> 0:13:58.920 moving to New York and wanting to you know, you 0:13:58.960 --> 0:14:01.320 have that girlfriend's like I want to take over the city, 0:14:01.320 --> 0:14:03.480 to take over the world wide, and I feel like 0:14:03.600 --> 0:14:05.480 it depends on what I'm going through in the week 0:14:05.520 --> 0:14:07.720 I'm having. I might identify with a different character for 0:14:07.720 --> 0:14:10.559 a different reason, and I might need like I might 0:14:10.640 --> 0:14:13.000 need to be Then and just be like free spirited 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:15.000 things are going to work out. I might need to 0:14:15.000 --> 0:14:16.960 be Maya and be like I'm on, fuck this, this 0:14:17.040 --> 0:14:19.840 is not happening. I might need to be Joan. I 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:22.080 might need to be Deal and be like hold on 0:14:22.240 --> 0:14:25.520 cause from me, I deserve that, like you know what 0:14:25.560 --> 0:14:27.880 I'm saying, Like, it just depends on what I'm going through. 0:14:27.920 --> 0:14:31.360 But Mark brock Iki, I think what it's so genius 0:14:31.400 --> 0:14:34.480 about the show is that I've never I could really 0:14:34.480 --> 0:14:36.640 watch it a thousand times and find a different reason 0:14:36.680 --> 0:14:38.640 why I need it to watch it like the art, 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:41.480 the story doesn't get old. You watch it like I 0:14:41.560 --> 0:14:42.840 need to see it again, girl. 0:14:43.320 --> 0:14:44.520 That right. 0:14:45.200 --> 0:14:48.640 Definitely timeless for sure, because like a lot of I 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:51.040 primarily work in fashion and art, but like a lot 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:53.320 of the fashion girls, they're like, oh it's touch sex 0:14:53.360 --> 0:14:57.360 in the City, no shade, great show, but I resonate 0:14:57.440 --> 0:15:00.080 more with like the characters of Girlfriends. 0:15:00.520 --> 0:15:01.720 Oh Man, thank you. 0:15:04.360 --> 0:15:07.600 It's differing for me too, because it's like I think 0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:10.920 watching it as an adult, like the ages twenty eight 0:15:11.400 --> 0:15:15.000 through like thirty one, thirty two. It's like it makes 0:15:15.040 --> 0:15:17.360 you like they're still going through so many things that 0:15:17.400 --> 0:15:20.520 you would like imagine people not go through. And it's like, wow, 0:15:20.600 --> 0:15:23.600 these are grown women around my age that's going. 0:15:23.520 --> 0:15:24.080 Through the same thing. 0:15:24.120 --> 0:15:26.200 It's just like it's okay to still be figuring out. 0:15:26.280 --> 0:15:29.520 Like Girlfriends just showed such a spectrum of different types 0:15:29.560 --> 0:15:31.840 of Black women, Like they were all different in their way, 0:15:31.960 --> 0:15:35.760 but it's like their situations happen to all of us, 0:15:35.800 --> 0:15:37.800 Like we're not you know, opposed to going. 0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:38.040 Through an that. 0:15:38.120 --> 0:15:39.640 So I feel like it's really for me to be 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:42.040 like you can be a career woman, can be like 0:15:42.080 --> 0:15:43.800 on your stuff, but you're still going to have like 0:15:43.880 --> 0:15:44.720 reality happen. 0:15:44.800 --> 0:15:47.120 So I feel like Girlfriends is kind of like that's. 0:15:46.920 --> 0:15:48.680 A hug that you need to be like, girl, like 0:15:48.720 --> 0:15:51.200 you're okay, like you're figuring out and that's okay too. 0:15:52.320 --> 0:15:55.960 Yeah, yeah, that's you. Guys are so on it. I 0:15:56.000 --> 0:15:56.440 love it. 0:15:56.520 --> 0:15:58.160 I love it. 0:15:57.840 --> 0:16:01.640 It's it really is crazy how it still holds up, 0:16:01.840 --> 0:16:05.960 you know, and we're all still so very close and uh, 0:16:06.120 --> 0:16:08.080 I mean the fashion we always talk about, you know, 0:16:08.120 --> 0:16:10.760 what I would take this from Joe, you know, oh 0:16:10.840 --> 0:16:12.280 you know, Lynn, let me let me get that little 0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:16.760 black sashet or for real estate dresses and my little 0:16:16.760 --> 0:16:22.160 sassy jeans. And I loved it. I love that we're 0:16:22.160 --> 0:16:24.720 having this conversation. And I think we're all I mean, 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:27.800 as black women. I really think we're all those women, right, 0:16:27.880 --> 0:16:32.080 I think we're all that, And I think we we 0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:34.600 have to code switch. That's what we do as as 0:16:34.800 --> 0:16:39.560 women of color, women in the arts, women in if 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:42.400 you know, if you're in the professional space, we you know, 0:16:42.440 --> 0:16:44.640 we're a little bit of Maya when we're with our friends, 0:16:44.680 --> 0:16:47.000 you know, the sister girl where and sometimes we have 0:16:47.040 --> 0:16:49.840 to put on that hat when like Joan in the boardroom, 0:16:50.000 --> 0:16:53.000 and and sometimes we're the perennial student where we're constantly 0:16:53.040 --> 0:16:57.040 wanting to learn, like like Lynn, and I think we 0:16:57.040 --> 0:16:59.920 wear so many hats as women of color that we 0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:03.120 have to. And so I'm so proud of all three 0:17:03.160 --> 0:17:06.119 of you for, you know, being in the space that 0:17:06.200 --> 0:17:10.919 you are. And I think people underestimate how art really 0:17:11.000 --> 0:17:16.960 can inspire you, whether it's TV or an actual art 0:17:17.040 --> 0:17:17.720 piece or. 0:17:19.880 --> 0:17:22.120 Because we're removed by by what. 0:17:22.320 --> 0:17:25.199 Is us and and something that's familiar and something that 0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:30.800 gives us, you know, legiency to. 0:17:28.800 --> 0:17:31.040 To be that and to explore that and to express that. 0:17:31.280 --> 0:17:34.280 So I just think conversations like this are really important, 0:17:34.320 --> 0:17:38.000 especially for you know, you guys and and even younger generations, 0:17:38.880 --> 0:17:42.560 so that they know it's okay, it's okay to to 0:17:42.560 --> 0:17:45.560 to be you, you know, and I know that that 0:17:46.280 --> 0:17:49.360 we're living in a space right now where we're kind 0:17:49.359 --> 0:17:51.239 of told who we need to be. And social that's 0:17:51.280 --> 0:17:54.040 another thing we always talk about. Girlfriends was around at 0:17:54.040 --> 0:17:56.000 a time, but there was no social media. You know, 0:17:56.080 --> 0:17:59.280 there was no Instagram, there was no I mean, I 0:17:59.280 --> 0:18:02.440 think Facebook was just starting, but it. 0:18:02.440 --> 0:18:07.240 Was a space maybe yeah, yeah, it was my space. 0:18:06.960 --> 0:18:11.840 Right, but like you only found out about girlfriends by 0:18:11.880 --> 0:18:13.480 word of mouth, like if you was you know. 0:18:13.840 --> 0:18:13.919 A. 0:18:16.880 --> 0:18:19.800 Yeah, definitely was like a talking point and like it 0:18:19.880 --> 0:18:22.840 was that every point of black women lineage. I can 0:18:22.880 --> 0:18:26.560 definitely say, from like grandparents to like my parents. 0:18:28.320 --> 0:18:29.840 Right, I mean it was sort of like you had 0:18:29.920 --> 0:18:33.760 to go to your local Sunday dinner or to church 0:18:33.840 --> 0:18:37.080 or to a friend's house to talk about that episode. 0:18:37.080 --> 0:18:38.399 Oh did you say when Joon did this? 0:18:38.480 --> 0:18:41.680 Because you know that's also how you know that it 0:18:41.720 --> 0:18:45.640 was the power of us, because you know, it was 0:18:45.680 --> 0:18:48.639 really like we'd have to get fan mail to hear 0:18:48.680 --> 0:18:49.959 what people were thinking. 0:18:50.040 --> 0:18:52.280 It was like wow. 0:18:52.359 --> 0:18:55.119 So they would sit there and open up envelopes, you know, 0:18:55.480 --> 0:18:59.760 and it's it's very interesting. We're in a different time. 0:19:00.280 --> 0:19:02.240 So the fact that we're still having this conversation, it 0:19:02.359 --> 0:19:04.639 just it really takes me a little bit emotional. 0:19:04.840 --> 0:19:18.920 So all right, y'all, So that has been the sit 0:19:19.000 --> 0:19:22.280 down with Golden Brooks. Now make sure again if you 0:19:22.320 --> 0:19:25.280 have not heard it enough throughout this conversation, you will 0:19:25.320 --> 0:19:27.440 hear right now that you come out. If you were 0:19:27.480 --> 0:19:30.720 in la on June twenty eighth and June twenty ninth 0:19:31.160 --> 0:19:34.199 to visit the exhibition, it will be open to the public. 0:19:34.240 --> 0:19:35.760 You can go out, take a look at all the 0:19:35.840 --> 0:19:38.320 art pieces, and you know, Golden will be there. It's 0:19:38.359 --> 0:19:39.879 going to be a great time. It's going to be 0:19:39.880 --> 0:19:43.800 a day full of creativity and conversation through the lens 0:19:43.880 --> 0:19:48.159 of black women creators, which, of course, again, girlfriends, you know, 0:19:48.200 --> 0:19:50.320