1 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: All right, here we go, Pack twelve fans. This one's 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: for you. This it's the Pack twelve Apostles, and only 3 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 1: the truth lives here at twelve Apostles Apostles. Guess, but 4 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 1: we got an interview with new Pack twelve commissioner George 5 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:29,159 Speaker 1: kliakoff our week five recamp. Things didn't go exactly the 6 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 1: way the conference wanted. Actually, or maybe they did. We're 7 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: gonna give our Pack twelve power rankings. Nick Rolovich, there's 8 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: a countdown going on his job right now. Carl Derell, 9 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: Colorado head coach has to apologize, and of course our 10 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: week six preview and the USC Survivor Series coaching search 11 00:00:56,520 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: must go on. I'm George Rice Stir, He's Ralph Ams 12 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: and and this is the Pack twelve Apostles, the Pack 13 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 1: twelve Apostles, the podcast, Bipack twelve fans, four Pack twelve fans. 14 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: Where you get the truth, no sugarcoating, no bs, We 15 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: keep it one hundred. So Ralph, I guess we gotta 16 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: start with this week in the conference. Um, things didn't 17 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: go exactly the way the conference wanted, or maybe they did. 18 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: Because that Oregon Stanford game. I am still fuming about it. 19 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: I know that there were some coaching things with maybe 20 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: who should have been at quarterback all of this stuff, 21 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: and whether they should have gone forward on fourth down 22 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: before halftime, But the end of the game only magnified 23 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: the problems with the officiating that have continued to go on. 24 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: And I don't see a world where like we can 25 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: continue on with targeting how it's being officiated with UH, 26 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: with the way that like the PAC twelve was the 27 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: most penalized Power five conference and it's not close, like 28 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: there's a problem, Ralph. I used to think that it 29 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: was all of the stylistic differences that that made the 30 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: Pact twelves so under officiated. UM, but now every conference 31 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:31,079 Speaker 1: has a mix of everything, and so I'm out of excuses. 32 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: I know that some of the calls at the end 33 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: of the game I definitely disagreed with. I would have 34 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: kept the flag in my pockets, certainly um UH before 35 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: the play that gave them the untimed down in which 36 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: they tied the game and were able to win it 37 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 1: in overtime. UM. I was a little bit confused at 38 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:51,239 Speaker 1: the inconsistency of of of the targeting calls towards the 39 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: end of the fourth quarter. Uh, there's not a lot 40 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: Cavon Thibodeau could have done uh differently, and it and 41 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 1: and it was sort of buttressed by the fact that, uh, 42 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: that Tanner McKee was getting hit from the back side 43 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,399 Speaker 1: and that kind of stood him up, and and that 44 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: that ended up being pretty rough. I didn't look at 45 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: that is is intentional. Meanwhile, on the other side, you 46 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: have someone, um take him kind of a big shot 47 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: at Jalen Red and just because they missed, just because 48 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: they didn't connect, even though the intent was there. And 49 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: if Jalen Red hadn't have been pulling a matrix movie 50 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: would have got his head knocked off. Then they picked 51 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: that flag up and so um, you know, there were 52 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 1: things that I was definitely concerned about. At the end 53 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: of the day. If your Oregon, if you're the number 54 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: three ranked team in the country, you gotta put Stanford 55 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: a waere. You can't fall down seventeen to seven. You 56 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: and I have a disagreement about whether or not you 57 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: take the points to make it a one possession game 58 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: with no time left in the first half. That is 59 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: something that I would have done, is been able to 60 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: go into the locker room, look your team in the 61 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: eye and say a we're down one possession, you know. Um, 62 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: But then at the same time, if you believe in 63 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: your team and it goes right, then we used still 64 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: down one possession. That's the thing that I understand about 65 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: the uh about not kicking the field goal there, But 66 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: in the second half they completely dominated. The only drive 67 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: in which Stanford had any success was aided by several 68 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: penalties in order to send the game in overtime. Then 69 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: and overtime, Oregon just didn't get it done. Yeah, that's uh, 70 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 1: that's all I have to say about that. It's not 71 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: great for the conference. We'll certainly come a long way 72 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: from one month ago saying that Stanford might not win 73 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: a game. Um. Yeah. So so, well, what do you 74 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: make of the officiating overall, Because yes, there's a new commissioner, 75 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: but it takes a while to figure out. I mean, 76 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 1: he's got to get the lay of the land and 77 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 1: and all of that. But but remember, we we've had 78 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 1: issues with targeting with Washington State and USC even this year, 79 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: We've we've had some other calls and honestly, just the 80 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: targeting in general is making me frustrated as a college 81 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: football fan because, like It's like people who are officiating 82 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: the game have no idea what it's like to actually 83 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: play the game, because guys are not, in general trying 84 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: to hurt other players. They're they're trying to get them down. 85 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: And then the the um, the person who's carrying the ball, 86 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: they lower their their head to like impact the other person, 87 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: and then the guy comes in and hit it with 88 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: his face mask, or there's incidental head contact when you 89 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: aren't a defenseless person. It's got to stop somewhere, dude. 90 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: And why are we holding college players to a higher 91 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: standard than we hold the pro players. We don't kick 92 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 1: pro players out of games, so why would we kick 93 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: college players out of games when they're not even as good. 94 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: I mean, the initial goal was to have a shock 95 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 1: value there that would clean things up immediately, and it 96 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: has cleaned it up. It has, but at the same 97 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 1: time you're still having these tis in which the game 98 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 1: has impacted in a major way. I look at it 99 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: the same way that I look at when coaches sit 100 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 1: somebody who fumbles, like usually they never meant to fumble, 101 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: didn't mean to fumble the ball. Punishing them is so 102 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: old school and weird, like you're gonna sit them for 103 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: the rest of the game because they got a ball 104 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: punched out by an incredibly strong, incredibly opportunistic defender. Get 105 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: them back in there. And if you're not using good 106 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: ball handling skills which have or or if it's the 107 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: end of the game and you're like, I don't trust 108 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: this dude right now, but I'll put him in, put 109 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: them back in next week or in another situation. I 110 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 1: think that that's different when you lose, when he can't 111 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 1: be trusted in that game versus you know, just just 112 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: saying you're in a permanent doghouse because you're a fumbler, 113 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 1: right right, And I agree with you, and that's what 114 00:06:58,400 --> 00:06:59,919 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like the best thing to do in that 115 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: situation would be to try to instill confidence in that 116 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 1: player by getting them another rep as quickly as possible. 117 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: And so if you're actually trying to teach these college 118 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: student athletes a lesson about not targeting, then you don't 119 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: need uh, you don't need a one and done rule. 120 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: You need like a three strikes situation. M Like it 121 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: builds up over It's yes, it's still a fifteen yard penalty. 122 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: Maybe they have to go out for that series, but 123 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: if they get to two or three, then they get 124 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: suspended for a game. I'm just a one, like a 125 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: targeting one in targeting to kind of kind of person. 126 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: I think that that's the optimal scenario. But if somebody 127 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: gets like five targeting ones, you know where they accumulate 128 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: and that that's what I'm saying is by the time 129 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: somebody gets their third targeting, whether it's a one or two, 130 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: maybe they lose a whole game. Because the point is 131 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: to like, is to teach them. And how how are 132 00:07:58,560 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: you going to learn if you get taken out of 133 00:07:59,920 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: the situation, if it's genuinely an issue of being under 134 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: educated or not having the right form or whatever. What 135 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: do you learn from lowering your head on a hit 136 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: and then not playing football again for six days? Yeah? Yeah, not. 137 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: It's very very true. It's very true. That's and that's 138 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: super reasonable, Ralph, super super reasonable. Um. I am looking 139 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: at the college football landscape in general, and the Pack 140 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: twelve has done something that is that I absolutely hate. Right, 141 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:40,319 Speaker 1: So you have Stanford who's got an Arizona State, and 142 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: Arizona State played a late game on Saturday, and they 143 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: have to come back this week, and they play on 144 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: Friday night. So Stanford plays Arizona State and Arizona States 145 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: ranked they looked really good against u C. L A. 146 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: And these are the types of scheduling things because you know, 147 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 1: prior to the season at Arizona States probably going to 148 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 1: be pretty good because of what they have coming back. 149 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 1: Like if you're gonna put Stanford against anybody, put him 150 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: against Arizona, put him against you know, Colorado teams that 151 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: you know not that are going to be bad on 152 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 1: a short week after coming back from playing Oregon, which 153 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: you know is going to be a big game. I 154 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 1: think it's it's poor planning by the conference. And this 155 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: is actually one of the things that I talked to 156 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 1: George Cliakoff about which he'll be on in just a 157 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: few minutes, about that go on with the conference. And 158 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 1: he actually talked about the scheduling component, which is going 159 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,199 Speaker 1: to be absolutely wild and you you guys, mind is 160 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: going to be blown. Um. But now, Ralph, you have 161 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: the conference. Oregon seemed to if they want out, would 162 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: be a surefire college football playoff team. I still think 163 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: that's true if they still went out at this point 164 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: in time, particularly if a s U play as well 165 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: and they go underfe eat it and they don't meet 166 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: until the Pac twelve Championship, or Oregon State, oh well, 167 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 1: and or Oregon State continue to be undefeated until Oregon 168 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: plays them and then and then you have a double 169 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: chance because you have Oregon Oregon State and on either 170 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: one of those teams would have one loss. They go 171 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: to the college. They go to the Pac twelve Championship 172 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: and play Arizona State, who has one loss. Or even 173 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: if yeah, well you say, like can't went out. If 174 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: Oregon wins saying so nope, so or Arizona State wins 175 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 1: out all the all the way and then they win 176 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,599 Speaker 1: the Pac twelve Championship, then they're gonna be in a 177 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 1: position to go to the College Football Football Playoff as well. 178 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 1: Because b y U is doing pretty good. So I 179 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,719 Speaker 1: think the conference still has a legitimate shot at the 180 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 1: college football Playoff. And just as you were talking, I 181 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 1: was imagining the Charlie Day. It's always sunny in Philadelphia, 182 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 1: the like red Yarn everywhere, I mean where he's try 183 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: and to connect all the dots. It would be super 184 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 1: nice to be a fan of a conference where you 185 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: just know that if you win the conference, you're going 186 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: to the College Football Playoff or be in the SEC 187 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: and be like, if we win the conference or we're 188 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: second on our side and we don't even go to 189 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: the SEC championship game, or if we lose in the 190 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: SEC championship game, we're probably gonna go. Like, it would 191 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,559 Speaker 1: be really nice not to have to like bend your 192 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: brain and twist it into knots to try to come 193 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: up with a scenario in which your team is going 194 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: to have some representation at the end of the year. 195 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: And you bring up the Friday game with Stanford, and 196 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 1: and I thought people made a really good point a 197 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: few years ago and it started happening. Is the week 198 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:42,559 Speaker 1: night games are four group of five conferences to gett 199 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: a shine. And it's funny that the PAC twelve leaned 200 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: really hard into the Thursday and Friday games and and 201 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: all of a sudden is starting to look like a 202 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: group of five conference. Yep, exactly like And to what 203 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: I mean by that, University of Arizona lost to Northern Arizona, 204 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: who turned around lost in Northern Colorado, whom Colorado barely 205 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: beat in Colorado. That's their only win of the year. 206 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: So we we have multiple teams in the pac twelve 207 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,199 Speaker 1: that would not win the Big Sky, and the Big 208 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 1: Sky is not one level down from the Pact twelve, 209 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: it's two levels down from the Pack twelve that'd be 210 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 1: talking about like if if Mississippi State was not able 211 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: to win the swackh That's that's the level we're at 212 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: with with the bottom of the Pack twelve now. And 213 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: I think I've always ranted about this. A big part 214 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 1: of that is you need these recruits to come out 215 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: and watch you on Friday. But if you take up 216 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: one of your home games with a with a Friday game, 217 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: then nobody's seeing it. Nobody at all in Arizona State, 218 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: most of all with their five total commits in this class, 219 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: one of which is from South Carolina out near me 220 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: who has never even visited campus yet. These people actually 221 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: need to come and visit and see and they can't 222 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 1: do it if they're playing on Friday nights. This was 223 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: something I asked Larry Scott to his face when he 224 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 1: was the commissioner, and he just kind of equivocated about 225 00:12:56,600 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: like he equivocated about everything. I am could not. I 226 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,559 Speaker 1: just want to reiterate every single day I wake up, 227 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: I thank God for all the blessings of my life, 228 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 1: healthy kids, loving wife, my home, hot water, food on 229 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: the table, and no more Larry Scott. Yes, I agreed. 230 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: So there are some games though, that are going to 231 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 1: impact the conference this weekend that ability to make the 232 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:30,319 Speaker 1: college football playoff. Obviously the Stanford Arizona State game on Friday, 233 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: but um, you have Temple and Cincinnati. Cincinnati is the 234 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: wild card, the what and so is b y U Like, 235 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: everybody has to be rooting for them to lose, right 236 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: everybody in the conference. If you want to make the 237 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 1: college football playoffs, Cincinnati needs to lose because they've already 238 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: beat Notre Dame and they beat Indiana so and they 239 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: and they didn't just beat Notre Dame, they demolished them. 240 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 1: So people are very high on them. So they're a 241 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 1: team that's gonna have to get out of the way. 242 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: The good news is is that you have Oklahoma playing 243 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: Texas right this this week in the Red River rivalry, 244 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: and if Texas loses, cool, that means that they're out 245 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: of it. But then if Oklahoma loses, now Texas is 246 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: kind of in the way too. And I think the 247 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: only team in the Pac twelve that could pass either 248 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: one of those at this point in time, it has 249 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: to be Oregon. Um. You have Ohio State's fine if 250 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: if if either Oregon wins out or UM, Arizona State 251 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: wins out and then be to Oregon so or Oregon 252 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: State same situation, UM, And then Georgia and Auburn played 253 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: this weekend. Georgia is gonna destroy Auburn, don't even have 254 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: to worry about that. But here's a game Penn State 255 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: in Iowa, number three versus number four. One of these 256 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: teams is going to lose, and truthfully, you actually want 257 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: Penn State to win and dominate. Actually actually either either 258 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: one of them winning and dominating is an optimal scenario. 259 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter as long as Ohio State runs through 260 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: both of them right correct exactly. And then you have 261 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: Michigan and Nebraska, which may be an upset kind of 262 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: kind of game. So, dude, the the Pact twelves not 263 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: sitting in bad shape right now, with the A C 264 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: C being what no, I'm saying with the terrible shape. No, 265 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: it's not because for only three ways to get to 266 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: the playoffs. Hold on, there's only three ways to get 267 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: to the playoff before let me talk about outside help 268 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: the reason why I said that you can talk like 269 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: this after Todd Graham just knocked off Fresno State. That 270 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: doesn't help anybody. Hold there. Okay, So here is the positive, 271 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: The a c C is out. Would you what would 272 00:15:57,800 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: you agree with that the a c C is out 273 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: and less no? There is no one less no if 274 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: wake Forest keeps winning, Dude, there's no way. There's no 275 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: chance that wake Forest wins all the rest of their games. 276 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: Who what is there more of a chance of happening 277 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: that Oregon State wins out or the wake Forest wins 278 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: out because the thing you're forgetting George's wake Forest gets 279 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: to play all their games against this at a CEC 280 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: like Okay, so they have Syracuse left Oh trap game 281 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: with Army Duke, North Carolina, n C State, Clemson, and 282 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: b C. Dude, there's no way they make it through 283 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: that unscathed through. But you can't say but because we're 284 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: talking about imaginary pack twelve scenarios, you can't say that 285 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: the a CEC is out because they still have that 286 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: imaginary scenario. Okay, Okay, cool, I will I will honor 287 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: your imaginary scenario. Okay, cool, Wake Forest Still that's it? Right? Yeah? 288 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: I don't think looking at the rest of the conference. No, no, 289 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:09,159 Speaker 1: they have uh z um no other. Virginia Tech is 290 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: still um only has one loss, but yeah no so 291 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: so yeah so yeah, nope, nope they have nothing. Else 292 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: they have Oh, they have NC State who only has 293 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: one loss as well and its ranks, so I guess 294 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 1: they technically do still have a chance, but not necessarily 295 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: an optimal one. And the Big Twelve they're gonna cannibalize 296 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 1: each other because Oklahoma has to play Oklahoma State and 297 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 1: Texas So yeah, so there's that. I fully expect one 298 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: of those three teams to be in though at the 299 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:56,360 Speaker 1: end of the year. Yes, I do as well, unless 300 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 1: you end up with a two lost conference champion, like 301 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 1: if if they all beat each other round and round 302 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: and then yeah so yeah. So the Big Twelve is 303 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 1: an interesting one because Texas is has got really good players, 304 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,959 Speaker 1: but not everywhere. They have some below average players that 305 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: they have to play the entire game at different positions. 306 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: Oklahoma is weird because everyone's looking at Spencer Rattlers saying 307 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:28,199 Speaker 1: you're no good. Meanwhile, he's won thirteen straight games, which 308 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 1: in the last fifty years has only been done by 309 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: three other Oklahoma quarterbacks two other No. Three three, and 310 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 1: two of those ran the option and through for a 311 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:40,400 Speaker 1: total of ten touchdowns in their college career. So if 312 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: he wins against Texas, that will be fourteen straight. He 313 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: will have equalled what Baker Mayfield did. So, I mean, 314 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 1: maybe they're not as bad as everybody's saying. Maybe it's 315 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: just taken some time to get them coached up. The 316 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: defense isn't great. Whichever one of them comes out of 317 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 1: it would be killed by Georgia or Alabama, I'm guessing. 318 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 1: But when I look at the pack twelve, I can't 319 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: even start to think about outside scenarios, the things that 320 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: you want. You're in a complicated situation with b y 321 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 1: U because now by US ranked tenth, So you need 322 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: b YU to lose, but at the same time, you 323 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:15,880 Speaker 1: still need them to be good. If you want Arizona 324 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 1: State only, Arizona State is the only school right now 325 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,880 Speaker 1: that needs to worry about b YU winning, but hopefully 326 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: not winning too much. It's a really weird situation. You 327 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 1: want BYU to lose twice, right, you wanted Fresno and 328 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: that's it, Like you want them to finish Tenant too. Yeah, 329 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: you wanted Fresno State to run the table and it 330 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: doesn't matter anymore because they didn't because Todd Graham did 331 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,120 Speaker 1: what he always does and wins one really really big 332 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: game year and then San Diego State doesn't really affect 333 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 1: the teams that are in the playoff would be in 334 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: the playoff hunt for the for the Pac twelve, because 335 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: San Diego State could run the table, and you have 336 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: to wonder if san Diego State runs the table, if 337 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,439 Speaker 1: they end up in the conversation, because there's some strong 338 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: teams in the Mountain West as well. But they didn't. 339 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: They didn't have enough preseason buzz. So everybody's just gonna 340 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 1: jump jump down, which is annoying because they give anybody hell. 341 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: But I look at uh, I look at this weekend's games, 342 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: and I'm like, by, you might lose this weekend. They're 343 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,239 Speaker 1: the tenth ranked team in the country and they might 344 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,360 Speaker 1: get got by Boise State. So it's they're on their 345 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 1: third string quarterback Gunna Romney had a had a concussion 346 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 1: and you know, there we'll see, We'll see what happens 347 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 1: with them. But the only scenarios that I can see 348 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: if the Pac twelve is just worrying about themselves. Is 349 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 1: Oregon State wins out, Oregon wins out, gets Arizona State 350 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: who won out and beats Arizona State, And then a 351 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: distant third is Arizona State winning out because they are 352 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 1: four and one right now and only ranked two. And 353 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody who's been in the twenties five 354 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:51,919 Speaker 1: weeks in has ever had a hope. It only only 355 00:20:52,040 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 1: that um Ohio State team that one in season, That's 356 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: the only one. But they had the they had the 357 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: benefit of a more respected big tan that they were 358 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 1: winning games against. So you know Arizona State has like 359 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:18,919 Speaker 1: Arizona still on the schedule, Yeah, exactly, they have. They 360 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:27,360 Speaker 1: have USC, usc UM who else I know, they don't 361 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: play Oregon, which is I don't know if we would 362 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 1: consider that to be helpful or not at this point. Uh, 363 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 1: it's it's helpful to the conference. It's not helpful to 364 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 1: Arizona State, but they could get them. So they have 365 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:44,400 Speaker 1: Stanford this week, then they have Utah, Washington State, USC 366 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: at Washington at Oregon State. Dude, that that's a tough 367 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: road to hold right there. Bro's and what's going in 368 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: state and back to back weeks after USC, It's gonna 369 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: be tough, dude, so tell me if I'm wrong here 370 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: in your head, the perfect scenario is for Arizona State 371 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 1: to win all of their games except one, and that 372 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: game would be at Corvallis because it would still allow 373 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: them to represent the PAC twelveth South, it would still 374 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 1: mean that they're ranked, it would still make them a 375 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:17,439 Speaker 1: ten win school. And then you would have Oregon have 376 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 1: the ability to take on a ranked Oregon State and 377 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: then take on Arizona State in the fact of that championship, 378 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: so you would get by the end of the year, 379 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: you would have wins over double digit win Oregon State, 380 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: double digit win, Arizona State, and Ohio State. That is 381 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,439 Speaker 1: the and you and you need Stanford to keep being respectable, 382 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,719 Speaker 1: but not so respectable that they beat Arizona State on Friday. 383 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: This is convoluted, man. This is a terrible place to 384 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 1: be in Hey. But but we are we we are 385 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 1: here and it's fine. Off it is fine. But there's 386 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,679 Speaker 1: not even a Craft Macaronian Red Box Bowl or whatever. 387 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:04,120 Speaker 1: It's Netflix and Chill Bowl in San Francisco has gone. 388 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: We gotta we're gonna have winning teams that don't even 389 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: get bowl games yep, well now we are going to 390 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 1: be here. My interview with George Kliakoff PAC twelve commissioner 391 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: new Pack twelve commissioner um Man. I wanted more time 392 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: with him, though, Ralph, because I had a few more questions, 393 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,120 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna try to get him back on to 394 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: hit those other questions. But here's what George Klikov had 395 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:35,679 Speaker 1: to say. George, thanks for coming on the show. Absolutely, 396 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: thanks for having me man. This has been a wild ride. 397 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: So you become commissioner of the Pack twelve. It seems 398 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: like that there are some obvious things that need to 399 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,959 Speaker 1: come in and be fixed or you know, that are 400 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: gonna mark whether you have a good tenure or a 401 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,880 Speaker 1: bad tenure. And then here comes name, Image and Likeness. 402 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: Here comes conference realignment with Texas and Oklahoma, where you 403 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 1: sur prize by how you know a world wind pays 404 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: that your you know, initial few months have been well. Listen, 405 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 1: my timing was impeccable. My first day was July first, 406 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: which was the first day of Name, Image and Likeness 407 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: and arguably one of the most seminal dates in the 408 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: history of college athletics where student athletes could get paid 409 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: for their name image and likeness without losing their eligibility. 410 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: But I'll tell you I spent June with the previous 411 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 1: commissioner going to do a bunch of meetings, and going 412 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: into July one, we had the Austin case decided by 413 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court. We obviously knew all the state laws 414 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 1: were coming in on n I L. And then we 415 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: had the CFP expansion announcement and that will happen in 416 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: the three weeks before I started. And then immediately after 417 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 1: I started, the MC announced that it was going to 418 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,439 Speaker 1: have a constitutional Convention to decide what the future of 419 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 1: the nation looked like and abdicate some of their existing 420 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 1: responsibility and give it back to the conferences and and 421 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: the UH schools. And then of course we had Texas 422 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 1: in Oklahoma, and that led to all the alignment talk, 423 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 1: and for us, it it ended up in the partnership 424 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: that we announced with the Big Ten in the a 425 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,679 Speaker 1: sec Um. But it was a whirldwind. And in the 426 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 1: middle of all of this, I'm trying to visit all 427 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: of our schools and get to know all the constituents. Yeah, 428 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 1: and the alliance which you guys formed with the A 429 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: C C and the Big ten is a handshake agreement, 430 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 1: and it's a partnership, you know, to do right by 431 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: student athletes and by UH and by the game and 432 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: well the game of football and all the rest of 433 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,679 Speaker 1: the sports as as well. And that's great and all that, 434 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: But to play Devil's advocate, I guess, how does that 435 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 1: impact or what is going to change for the average 436 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: fan or the average season ticket holder or pack twelve 437 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: fan of football, baseball, basketball, or any of those sports. Yes, listen, 438 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 1: it's a great question. I think the scheduling piece of 439 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,120 Speaker 1: the alliance is what got the most attention, But that's 440 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: probably our third priority of the three priorities we set 441 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 1: for the alliance. The first is to work together um 442 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: to help each other be better and how we think 443 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: about supporting student athletes. So that's mental and physical health, 444 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: career development, leadership, training, diversity, equity and inclusion, all the 445 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: things that we do on a day to day basis 446 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: to support our athletes. We're going to partner with the 447 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,439 Speaker 1: SEC and big tend to be better at doing. The 448 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: second piece is to think collectively about how we address 449 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 1: all those big issues we talked about mame, image and likeness, 450 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: Allston fallout, the m c A CFP, and how we 451 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: do that not in a voting block. We haven't agreed 452 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 1: to vote together, but but to work together to think 453 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 1: through what's in the best interest of the collegiate model 454 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 1: and student athletes when we're thinking through those big issues. 455 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: And then we'll each independently vote every time a vote 456 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 1: comes up. UM. And then finally with the scheduling piece, 457 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 1: and that's where the rubber is going to hit the 458 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: road for the fans of the Pack twelve, We're going 459 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,719 Speaker 1: to start scheduling more of these other conferences in our 460 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 1: non conference play. In every single one of our sports. 461 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:08,360 Speaker 1: The goal for football it is eventually for each conference 462 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 1: to get to the place where it's playing eight conference games. 463 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 1: So our Patrol schools would play eight Patrol of games. 464 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,640 Speaker 1: They play one game against the a SEC, one game 465 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: against the Big Ten. Every year. One of those would 466 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: be home, one would be away. It would switch a 467 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 1: year to year. UH, and then they have two other 468 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 1: games they could schedule for themselves to ensure if they 469 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 1: want to have UM seven home games. And what I 470 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 1: would say about is it's a different approach to college 471 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: football scheduling. When I came into the sport first thing 472 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 1: I looked at was the fact that we've got all 473 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 1: the team's scheduling games ten to fifteen years out, and 474 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: that doesn't make any sense. The season they're doing it 475 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: is because other teams have done it and there's fear 476 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: of missing out and having no one to play. When 477 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: you have a guaranteed relationship, you can wait until the 478 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: end of the previous season and then create really interesting 479 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 1: matchups in the moment. So I think it better to 480 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: be scheduling football games eight months out, not twelve years out. 481 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: And that'll be one I think it's we'll be able 482 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:09,199 Speaker 1: to accomplish. Thank god, some somebody came in with a 483 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: good idea, because as a college football super fan and 484 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: as a former player, I could never understand, like, why 485 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 1: would you schedule so far out because but the pandemic 486 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 1: proved that you can make make make a game in 487 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 1: a week, so we don't need ten years out in advance. Um, 488 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:31,640 Speaker 1: but you talked about the college Football Playoff, the expansion 489 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: that part of the alliance, and and whether there's a 490 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 1: voting block and all of that, and they're the twelve 491 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: team playoffs seemed to be, you know, moving picking up steam, 492 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: which I hated it because then three teams get buys 493 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 1: and this is football, so it decreases the chance of 494 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 1: upsets and people get hurt. All of that. I don't 495 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 1: like the twelve team I think either think it needs 496 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 1: to be eight or sixteen. But that's neither here nor there. 497 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 1: But the idea though that the SEC was gonna try 498 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 1: to line up to get four or five teams in 499 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: the playoffs. Why the halt on the playoff talk and 500 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: the expansion and what do I guess you think the 501 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 1: best model is? And are you in favor of playoff expansion? 502 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 1: Hudder in favor of playoff expansion, as is everyone else 503 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: that sits in the cf room. I just got back 504 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 1: from Chicago where we had a couple of days of 505 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 1: meetings talking about CFP expansion. Everybody in the rooms in 506 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: favor of expansion. Everybody in the room is in favor 507 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: of doing it sooner rather than later. The issue with 508 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 1: the twelve team expansion proposal is not that it's bad. 509 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: At the margins, there are some issues about it. What 510 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 1: happened was that that was a group of four of 511 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 1: the eleven people that have to vote yes coming up 512 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: with that model, and they did really good work. Over 513 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: two years. I think the mistake that we made was 514 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 1: it was announced to the public at the same time 515 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 1: it was shown to the seven people who were not 516 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: in the room. And if all eleven people have to 517 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 1: approve something, it strikes me like the best thing to 518 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 1: do is get all eleven people to agree to something 519 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 1: and then announce it publicly. So there are folks in 520 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 1: the room who would prefer eight, there are folks in 521 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: the room who would prefer to Well, there's some work 522 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: to be done to come to a consensus, but I'm 523 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 1: confident that will get there. But what I don't want 524 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: to do is be negotiating this in public. I think 525 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 1: the right thing to do is for the eleven people 526 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 1: that have to say yes to agree and then we'll 527 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 1: announce it publicly. And that should have been done instead 528 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 1: of announcing in June a proposal that had not been 529 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 1: fully vetted. I think we misset our fans expectations, and 530 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 1: I think that was a mistake. But you should know 531 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: that everyone's in favor of expansion and expansion sooner rather 532 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: than later. So what could that possible? I guess the 533 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 1: expansion look like because when you when you don't necessarily 534 00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: have a consensus, and you have people who want automatic 535 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: be is, people don't want auto automatic beads. Are you 536 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: looking at it from a a what's best for the 537 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 1: pack twelve or what's best for you think as college 538 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 1: football as a whole. I think the first approach for 539 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: everyone in the room has to be what's best for 540 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 1: college football and college sports as a whole. And you know, 541 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: as part of that, they have to set aside some 542 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 1: of their partners and desires. Uh. You know, you think 543 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: about that stuff because you're paid to think about that stuff. 544 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 1: But if everyone is not willing to compromise a little bit, 545 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 1: you can't get there. And the history of this has 546 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 1: been when the BCS was created and then um the 547 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 1: CFP was created, there were compromises, and uh, we have 548 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 1: a long history of kind of everyone compromising a little 549 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 1: bit to get to where they need to be for 550 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 1: the betterment of the entire sport. And I'm hoping that 551 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 1: will happen here. We're certainly very flexible and willing to 552 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: compromise a lot on things that are important to us, uh, 553 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 1: for the for the better uh kind of higher purpose 554 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: of college football and the student athletes of the fans. 555 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 1: I think the current model is broken. In the current 556 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 1: model where you have four teams, we have three percent 557 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: of our student athletes and football being able to compete 558 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: for a national championship. In every other sport that we administer, 559 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 1: it is somewhere between eighteen and of our student athletes 560 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 1: get to compete for their championships. Are student athletes and 561 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 1: our fans want our kids to be able to compete 562 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: for those championships, and the current models broken. We have 563 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,719 Speaker 1: to fix it. Yeah, And one of those things that 564 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: has been announced is the the the changes that are 565 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: going to be made in college basketball, specifically for the 566 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 1: women using the March Maddens name. And you know they're 567 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 1: being equity there because it's one of those if you 568 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 1: build it, they will come. Because they signed a five 569 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 1: hundred million dollar deal with ESPN and the ratings are 570 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: up and all of that, so people clearly want to 571 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 1: watch it. So how big of a focus is that 572 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 1: to elevate women's sports where some of them are even 573 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 1: revenue generating in women's basketball and to make it an 574 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 1: equitable situation there with basketball season just around the corner. Well, 575 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 1: a couple couple of thoughts. The first is I was 576 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 1: fortunate in my previous job to oversee the Las Vegas 577 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 1: ass the w NBA franchise and sit on the w 578 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 1: NBA Board of Governors when we renegotiated the collective bargaining agreement, 579 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 1: which really was in favor of the athletes of the 580 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 1: w n b A. I think anyone who's not a 581 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 1: women's basketball fan is someone who has not seen the 582 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: game yet. It's incredible, and I think you're starting to 583 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 1: see that reflective in the ratings for both college and 584 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 1: professional women's basketball. I'll remind you that the gender equity 585 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 1: issues that were raised at the uh, you know, March 586 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 1: tournaments last year were the result of a pack twelve 587 00:33:56,080 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 1: student athlete tweeting out, UH kind of what hers variants 588 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 1: was at the final four as compared to the male colleagues. 589 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 1: We're proud of that. UH. It started a gender equity 590 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 1: review program at the m b A, and the result 591 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 1: of that was a report that came out about three 592 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:16,240 Speaker 1: weeks ago suggesting some changes to how we think about 593 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 1: women's sports, and particularly women's basketball. UH. We've reviewed that report. 594 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,800 Speaker 1: We're in favor of almost every suggestion in that report, 595 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 1: and that started with allowing the use of the March madness, 596 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,279 Speaker 1: UH logo and mark which has so much value to 597 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 1: be applied not just to the men's game, but to 598 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 1: the women's game as well. We think that's really smart. 599 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 1: We're working with our n c A colleagues to implement 600 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:46,319 Speaker 1: as many of those recommendations as possible. But I think 601 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,319 Speaker 1: women's basketball is one of the great growth sports in 602 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 1: college athletics, and UM, that's really really good for the 603 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 1: Patch wealth because we dominate women's basketball. A final final 604 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,839 Speaker 1: question for you, Um, the Pack twelve I think has 605 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,840 Speaker 1: suffered from an availability problem because if you're not visible 606 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 1: as much as the other conferences are with the Pack 607 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 1: twelve networks versus the A, C, C, SEC and Big 608 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 1: ten net networks, then that's a problem. And there was 609 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 1: a uh and you've basically said that they're kind of 610 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 1: that there's not a lot that can be done until 611 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 1: is there stuff going on but behind the scenes, and 612 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 1: are there any other kind of internet partnerships or streaming 613 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,839 Speaker 1: partnerships that can be made that can you know, get 614 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 1: the availability up right now? So the patrols are unique 615 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 1: because today we have the only Power five conference schools 616 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 1: in the Mountain and Pacific time zone. And that's you 617 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 1: know a quarter of the population of the United States. UH, 618 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,800 Speaker 1: and as a result, we can fill a time um 619 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 1: kind of slot for television that no other power of 620 00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:01,239 Speaker 1: five school can fill, which is prime time less coast UH. 621 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,360 Speaker 1: The issue is when you play at night, the folks 622 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 1: who are on the Central and Eastern time zones may 623 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 1: not get to stay up for the whole game, or 624 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 1: may not even get to see any of the game. 625 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,880 Speaker 1: And that applies not just to fans, but it applies 626 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 1: to a p voters. See if the Committee voters, Heisman 627 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 1: trophy voters, and that's a concern. So we get paid 628 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 1: more to play those games, we would get paid less 629 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 1: if we played games earlier in the day and could 630 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 1: not fill that time slot. UM. So it's a trade off. 631 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 1: It's a balance of wide distribution of your product, competitive 632 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 1: advantage against revenue, and our current contracts unfortunately preclude us 633 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 1: from the flexibility of choosing to move games earlier almost 634 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,719 Speaker 1: all the time. There's some exceptions at the margins when 635 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:54,360 Speaker 1: we play games on the patrol of network, but ESPN 636 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,239 Speaker 1: and Fox get the first choice of which of our 637 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,799 Speaker 1: games they put on, and they often want to play 638 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,399 Speaker 1: those games at night to field really really important time, 639 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,799 Speaker 1: Frank for them. We'll get a chance to re look 640 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:08,279 Speaker 1: at that and rebalance um our decisions about how to 641 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 1: trade off revenue for exposure and competitive advantage when we 642 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 1: renegotiate our media rights contracts in the next couple of years. 643 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:20,359 Speaker 1: But under the current contract, I'm not allowed to give 644 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 1: away for free games. I'm not allowed to move with 645 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,799 Speaker 1: games to earlier in the day. For the most part, 646 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 1: I'm not allowed to UM distribute the content other than 647 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,920 Speaker 1: with our existing distributors. And it's the biggest frustration for me, 648 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 1: and I hear it on my Twitter feed from promot 649 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 1: fans every single day, but most of the time on 650 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,759 Speaker 1: on Saturdays, and I wish there was something more I 651 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 1: could do. But I've inherited these contracts, will will work 652 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,799 Speaker 1: through them over the next couple of years, and we'll 653 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 1: fix that balance, all right, you guys. He is George 654 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 1: Kliefkov man with the great first name. Um PACs Wealth Commissioner. George. 655 00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,319 Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on and being so gratefus with your time. 656 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 1: Thank you, George, appreciate it. So, Ralph, what did you 657 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 1: think about what the man with the great first name 658 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:12,919 Speaker 1: had to say? I appreciate his honesty. Um, I don't 659 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 1: appreciate the honesty, but I appreciate his honesty. Does that 660 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 1: make sense? No, I don't like the truth, but I 661 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:24,720 Speaker 1: appreciate that he tells it to me. Yeah. Oh dude. 662 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 1: The thing, the thing he said about the network deals, 663 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,400 Speaker 1: it just it made me want to punch Larry Scott, 664 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 1: Like you left yourself no wiggle room. You let yourself 665 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 1: get litigated to no options. And George is sitting there like, bro, 666 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 1: I wish that there was something I could do, but 667 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 1: I I can't, and it's frustrating me too. That was 668 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,919 Speaker 1: the That was the scariest part about it is that 669 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:58,120 Speaker 1: Larry Scott was such so bad that even the contract 670 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:06,320 Speaker 1: language prohibits the next person from fixing his mess. Yeah. 671 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,759 Speaker 1: I I do not want to punch lawyer Scott in 672 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,840 Speaker 1: the face because that would include being in the same 673 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:17,359 Speaker 1: room as him. I'd rather not do that. So what 674 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,720 Speaker 1: Oh but but the best thing I thought that George 675 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:25,920 Speaker 1: said was about the scheduling, right, Yeah, dude, I was like, 676 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:30,240 Speaker 1: finally somebody gets it. Instead of scheduling games out five 677 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:34,320 Speaker 1: ten years, schedule them eight months away. Do you realize 678 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,879 Speaker 1: that that means that we're gonna get fantastic matchups that 679 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:42,320 Speaker 1: we're gonna get like Oregon Ohio State or Oregon Michigan 680 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:46,719 Speaker 1: and then USC what what like whoever the best teams are. 681 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 1: You're gonna get some of those matchups every single year, 682 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,759 Speaker 1: and then you'll get you know, Arizona will get the 683 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 1: luxury of playing like Rutgers or Waxy. Riggers is better. Now. 684 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:03,560 Speaker 1: So I don't know who Arizona. Who could Arizona play 685 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 1: in the big team right now? Um? They could play uh, 686 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:14,359 Speaker 1: I want to say Perdue, but producing they could play 687 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 1: Florida State, that's not in the Big ten. Wait, oh no, no, no, no, no, 688 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,560 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, because well well there there's Big ten and 689 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 1: there's a a CC. Sorry. So I was thinking that 690 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,759 Speaker 1: they could that Arizona in the Big Ten, that they 691 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:33,799 Speaker 1: could play Indiana, who's bad this year? They could play 692 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,120 Speaker 1: you're talking about a team that lost to an AU. Dude, 693 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 1: I don't know, but I do. I do agree with 694 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,440 Speaker 1: you that it's But but how how can you actually 695 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 1: exercise any control over the schools that have already scheduled 696 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:51,439 Speaker 1: games out to do those just go away? Yes, those 697 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:56,360 Speaker 1: are gonna have to go away, bro, because here's the 698 00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,960 Speaker 1: Here's the thing is that George and all the other 699 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:04,120 Speaker 1: conference commissioners said, though we're we're not going to break 700 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 1: our existing contracts, but you're you're gonna have to. Like, 701 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:13,480 Speaker 1: how can you honor all these games that are scheduled 702 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,360 Speaker 1: so far out? How is that? How is that possible? 703 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:21,480 Speaker 1: And that's my question. I don't know. I it's corny anyway, 704 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,200 Speaker 1: I don't understand that. I always see people post articles 705 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 1: about it. Um. I always see people post articles about it, 706 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 1: like they even know if they're gonna be alive when 707 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:38,120 Speaker 1: it when it comes ups. Oregon has Ohio State scheduled 708 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:43,839 Speaker 1: again in twenty thirty two and twenty thirty three. Are 709 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:47,279 Speaker 1: you kidding me? We're talking twelve years from now. Why 710 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:50,600 Speaker 1: the hell is that game even scheduled in twenty They 711 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:55,080 Speaker 1: have Michigan State in nine they have Michigan State as well. 712 00:41:56,000 --> 00:42:03,000 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, dude, this is absolutely sanity because like that's 713 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,160 Speaker 1: the thing that made me not believe something that they say, 714 00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,360 Speaker 1: because I was like, how can it be true? Like, 715 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,400 Speaker 1: how are you going to do a quote unquote scheduling 716 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:15,479 Speaker 1: alliance when all of these teams have already had they 717 00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:25,080 Speaker 1: already have you know, Um, schedules until until Jesus returns. Yeah, 718 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:30,680 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know. I don't think that. That's 719 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,759 Speaker 1: what makes me feel like it's it's very possible that 720 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,439 Speaker 1: it's lip service, but I don't. I don't know for sure. 721 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,120 Speaker 1: I don't know for sure. I think I think that 722 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,560 Speaker 1: if you asked him that question, do because but it 723 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:46,359 Speaker 1: just dawned on me right now that you have game 724 00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,960 Speaker 1: schedules so far out, how are you gonna not break 725 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:58,680 Speaker 1: your existing contracts until you are until three? Right? So 726 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,360 Speaker 1: you want him to schedule them on short notice, and 727 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,239 Speaker 1: then you want them to be against people who are 728 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:07,960 Speaker 1: part of the alliance, And you know, I don't know. 729 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,239 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if it's gonna work out. 730 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:14,360 Speaker 1: I like that he has an idea, but without the 731 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:19,120 Speaker 1: ability to enforce it, it's just a it's just a suggestion. Right, 732 00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,480 Speaker 1: How do you get people to buy into this, because 733 00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, everybody's just a lobbyist 734 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,239 Speaker 1: for their own self interest, So they're gonna try to 735 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,000 Speaker 1: make the games that make the most sense for them. 736 00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 1: So maybe they just need to justify your paycheck. So 737 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,640 Speaker 1: you could justify your paycheck by scheduling a game fifteen 738 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,279 Speaker 1: years from now, go home and feel like you did 739 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:40,920 Speaker 1: work today, even though that game is like the the 740 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:44,920 Speaker 1: avoidable years on the back of Taysom Hills contract. Um. 741 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:51,279 Speaker 1: But now let's finished talking about Week five because there 742 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:58,080 Speaker 1: were some interesting games in the conference and some weird results. 743 00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:02,800 Speaker 1: Can you tell us what we're doing right now with 744 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:06,719 Speaker 1: with the picks and the gambling and all that. So 745 00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:10,839 Speaker 1: you did not increase your lead, damn it. But your 746 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,400 Speaker 1: your lead is still pretty ridiculous. And I don't know 747 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:14,960 Speaker 1: if I'm gonna be able to catch up over the 748 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:18,160 Speaker 1: course of the rest of the season with only five 749 00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,439 Speaker 1: games at a time. But you were sitting against the spread, 750 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:25,000 Speaker 1: You're sitting at twenty seven and eighteen, and Um, what 751 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:26,239 Speaker 1: what do they say you need to get if you 752 00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,160 Speaker 1: if you're gambling the same amount of money every time, 753 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:31,600 Speaker 1: what do you need to get picks right to ultimately 754 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:36,040 Speaker 1: turn a minimal profit or something like that. Yeah, I 755 00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:40,600 Speaker 1: think you're well above that threshold. Um, so you're doing 756 00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:44,399 Speaker 1: really well there. I am not. I did go three 757 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,359 Speaker 1: and two this last week. You went two and three. 758 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:51,840 Speaker 1: I'm now at twenty and five. Um, you went to 759 00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:59,279 Speaker 1: two in one against the spread. Uh, uh, and I 760 00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,640 Speaker 1: also went to two and one. We both have two ties, 761 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,560 Speaker 1: and we're actually pretty close here. I might actually have 762 00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,160 Speaker 1: a shot at you. UM. I need to go back 763 00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,480 Speaker 1: in tally throughout the season because for some reason I 764 00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:12,520 Speaker 1: have you at nineteen and two and me at two 765 00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:17,319 Speaker 1: and two, which, yeah, I don't I think you you're 766 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,279 Speaker 1: I think what I did was I didn't put your 767 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,480 Speaker 1: losses in at some point or something like that. I 768 00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:23,759 Speaker 1: think you're twenty two one and two. I think we're 769 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,319 Speaker 1: one game separated on the overrunner. But I have to 770 00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:27,880 Speaker 1: go all the way back and figure out where I 771 00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,359 Speaker 1: did my math wrong. And trusting me with the math 772 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:34,560 Speaker 1: was a great idea. I'm a English um. But but 773 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:38,200 Speaker 1: the moral of the story is you are currently um 774 00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:43,080 Speaker 1: sitting at seven and eighteen uh in picks against the 775 00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:46,879 Speaker 1: spread for the pack twelve conference, which I think is 776 00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,600 Speaker 1: you're picking six winners, which is a really hard thing 777 00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:56,320 Speaker 1: to do that some people get paid to to do that. UM. 778 00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,959 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, you didn't have the best week 779 00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,600 Speaker 1: last week, but it's uh. I think we're getting to 780 00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,640 Speaker 1: the point where we're a lot more familiar with the teams, 781 00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,319 Speaker 1: and if you also have to account for the fact 782 00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,720 Speaker 1: that a lot of your losses come from just picking 783 00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:14,760 Speaker 1: Oregon no matter what the spread is. Whoa, whoa, whoa. 784 00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,640 Speaker 1: When have you picked against Oregon to to not cover? 785 00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,239 Speaker 1: I thought that they were going to cover bro like 786 00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,960 Speaker 1: they it could have been eleven billion, and you've been like, 787 00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,120 Speaker 1: I know, I wouldn't have. No, I wouldn't have. No, 788 00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,239 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have. Do you You you lost out this week? 789 00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:34,279 Speaker 1: You lost out last week on the twenty and a half. Um, 790 00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,040 Speaker 1: I think they might have covered against Sony Brook but 791 00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:38,960 Speaker 1: almost didn't. But what I'm telling you is I don't 792 00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:43,480 Speaker 1: think the spread matters. I think you're going Oregon regardless. Well, listen, 793 00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:47,480 Speaker 1: I won't be picking Oregon this week, just so you know. Okay, 794 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:52,600 Speaker 1: real cute the dad The dad jokes should have ended 795 00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,680 Speaker 1: on October four with all the ten ten four good 796 00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:59,680 Speaker 1: buddy stuff. It's October five. We're taking a break from 797 00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:05,799 Speaker 1: the dead jokes. Oh okay, all right, all right, So 798 00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:09,919 Speaker 1: the games that were very notable in well actually all 799 00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:14,000 Speaker 1: the games in the conference, so we will go over those. 800 00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:19,280 Speaker 1: The first one we're gonna go over is, well, I guess, 801 00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,200 Speaker 1: I guess what did you have anything else that you 802 00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:26,279 Speaker 1: wanted to add on the Stanford Oregon because I thought 803 00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:29,279 Speaker 1: that there was a interesting question that was put out 804 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,319 Speaker 1: and you guys can hit us up three seven, five 805 00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:36,040 Speaker 1: four seven. It's eight one eight two seven, five four seven. 806 00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:41,840 Speaker 1: So the question was, if you had one game to 807 00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:45,799 Speaker 1: win in the pack twelve, who would your quarterback be? 808 00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,160 Speaker 1: Who would you pick Ralph? If you have one game 809 00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:59,720 Speaker 1: to win? That's a really good question. Um, not knowing 810 00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:05,880 Speaker 1: anything else, like not knowing any anybody else on the team, nothing, 811 00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:13,120 Speaker 1: who you're playing, none of that, Huh. I might go 812 00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:19,880 Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels because he's gotta win over a top ten Oregon. 813 00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,560 Speaker 1: He's got two wins over Michigan State. And it's not 814 00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,040 Speaker 1: it's it's a matter of limiting mistakes because I can't. 815 00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,680 Speaker 1: If the only thing that I can factor in is 816 00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:30,920 Speaker 1: who my quarterback is going to be, then I want 817 00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:32,719 Speaker 1: to know somebody who's not at the end of the day, 818 00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,680 Speaker 1: isn't gonna cost me, and d TR might be my 819 00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,239 Speaker 1: choice otherwise, or maybe even Tanner McKee, but there's not 820 00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,600 Speaker 1: enough data on Tanner McKee, and I would say that 821 00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:45,200 Speaker 1: DTR has proven that there are times where he'll cost you. Um. 822 00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,200 Speaker 1: Jane Daniels is the only guy that I know that 823 00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,960 Speaker 1: is either going to be a net neutral or a 824 00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:55,600 Speaker 1: net positive. Yeah, even if even if it's a small one, right, yeah, 825 00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,920 Speaker 1: like it. Yeah, you you just need somebody who's for 826 00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,480 Speaker 1: sure not going to be a saboteur, which is which 827 00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,279 Speaker 1: is hard to find right right now, because I was 828 00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:08,840 Speaker 1: thinking about that and I wouldn't say a Chance Nolan 829 00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:14,560 Speaker 1: until the Washington game where he was brutal. Bro Hey, 830 00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:16,520 Speaker 1: I know that you and I know that you like 831 00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:18,480 Speaker 1: it good. I told you so, and so I'm just 832 00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,239 Speaker 1: gonna go ahead and throw it out there, uh that 833 00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:25,879 Speaker 1: I I told you. I mean, I I do. I'm 834 00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:29,080 Speaker 1: not a believer in Oregon State or Chance Nolan based 835 00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:30,520 Speaker 1: on the fact that they got to go up against 836 00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:36,359 Speaker 1: usc Um at the same time. Good lord, I'm sure 837 00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:38,160 Speaker 1: at some point we're gonna get into it. But I 838 00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:39,839 Speaker 1: don't have a whole lot of positive to say about 839 00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:44,400 Speaker 1: Washington and Jimmy Lake right now. M alright, But in 840 00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,160 Speaker 1: the Oregon thing, the last thing I want to say 841 00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,520 Speaker 1: is like, good luck to Bryson Tremaine with his rehab 842 00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:52,960 Speaker 1: because that sucked. That was horrible to see. Dude, He's 843 00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:57,640 Speaker 1: been their best player. Yeah, do in this team, This 844 00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:02,920 Speaker 1: Oregon team is tremendously injured, tremendously injured, and there there 845 00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:06,279 Speaker 1: are people that watched and if you didn't know, they 846 00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:12,000 Speaker 1: were without their offensive coordinator, Joe Moorehead. He flew down 847 00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:16,200 Speaker 1: to Santa Claria to the game, ended up needing emergency 848 00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:22,680 Speaker 1: surgery and he's still there as of yesterday in their recovering. 849 00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:28,520 Speaker 1: So they had to unexpectedly play with that without their 850 00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:33,920 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. They're starting center is out, um, Bennett Williams 851 00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:37,279 Speaker 1: is out for the year. Likely Justin Flow is out 852 00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:41,719 Speaker 1: for the year. You had Um went down, yep, may 853 00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:48,239 Speaker 1: make Funa got got hurt. Alex forsythe the starting center, gone, um. Yeah. 854 00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:51,600 Speaker 1: And then by the time the game was over, c J. 855 00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,160 Speaker 1: Viddale's out for the year. You have a couple of 856 00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:57,759 Speaker 1: other injury due the amount um oh, Adrian Jackson a 857 00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:03,160 Speaker 1: starter on or a big contributor on defense. He didn't play, Dude, 858 00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:06,000 Speaker 1: they were at one point in time they have multiple 859 00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:10,680 Speaker 1: walk ons on the field. Yeah, that's like this team 860 00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:15,799 Speaker 1: is devastated with injuries right now. It's tough and and 861 00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:19,480 Speaker 1: they you know they didn't Anthony Brown is what he is. 862 00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,400 Speaker 1: He's okay, and he made So do you think that 863 00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:27,080 Speaker 1: they should change quarterbacks? Because I do. I think that 864 00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:30,640 Speaker 1: no matter what a good situation, because you are obviously 865 00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,279 Speaker 1: close to the program and it takes some guts to, 866 00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:35,640 Speaker 1: I feel like, to be where you're at and to 867 00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,040 Speaker 1: say that because there's people within the program who look 868 00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:41,400 Speaker 1: up to you. Meanwhile, I've covered thy Thompson since his 869 00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:44,040 Speaker 1: sophomore year in high school and I don't feel the 870 00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:47,279 Speaker 1: same way. I think he needs a little more time. 871 00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:52,879 Speaker 1: Could he be ready? Sure? Um, well, I think that 872 00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:56,759 Speaker 1: that that you have to play him some. Yeah, he'd 873 00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:58,279 Speaker 1: be the you put him in. He'd be a top 874 00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:02,640 Speaker 1: four quarterback in the conference right now. But then again, 875 00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:04,279 Speaker 1: that's how I think of Anthony Brown is probably the 876 00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:08,640 Speaker 1: number four quarterback in the conference right now. Gez And 877 00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:13,000 Speaker 1: thinking about Anthony Brown though, is this is that he 878 00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:17,879 Speaker 1: is a kid who has He's not going to like, 879 00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,680 Speaker 1: like the house is not going to burn down with 880 00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:23,759 Speaker 1: with him in charge. You know what I'm saying. That 881 00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:27,200 Speaker 1: he doesn't turn the ball over aside from that ridiculous 882 00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:32,880 Speaker 1: interception he threw against Stanford, but like he's a he's 883 00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:39,640 Speaker 1: what the game manager slur was was made for um, 884 00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:46,239 Speaker 1: and it is and Oregon is. If Oregon couldn't run 885 00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:50,200 Speaker 1: the football so well, like they would have big time 886 00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:54,480 Speaker 1: trouble because Stanford safeties were sitting at like seven yards 887 00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:56,839 Speaker 1: at the end of the game, and Oregon was still 888 00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,319 Speaker 1: running the football very, very well. That's all they did 889 00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,120 Speaker 1: in the second half hal And then he could not 890 00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,719 Speaker 1: he can't threaten the defense because he can't hit deep 891 00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:11,200 Speaker 1: passes so and and put them in catchable locations. So 892 00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:14,840 Speaker 1: then it becomes like a boa constrictor on your offense. 893 00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:19,080 Speaker 1: And when you play a better team that can score, 894 00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,840 Speaker 1: you're you're gonna have problems. Yeah, which is why that 895 00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:24,839 Speaker 1: and that's one of the main reasons why I wanted 896 00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:26,400 Speaker 1: them to take the points at the half. Now, I 897 00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:28,640 Speaker 1: saw a lot of people complaining about the broadcast. What 898 00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:31,360 Speaker 1: did you think about that that the broadcast quality was 899 00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:36,600 Speaker 1: out of whack? That the quality or the fact that 900 00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,960 Speaker 1: Rod Gilmore was on you. Oh no, not the not 901 00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:42,520 Speaker 1: the call. I know how you feel about Rod Gilmore. No, 902 00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:45,239 Speaker 1: I meant the actual broadcast quality. That was that that 903 00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:47,920 Speaker 1: was all over social media during the game. Was that 904 00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:51,600 Speaker 1: that that they felt like, uh, that they were using 905 00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:56,120 Speaker 1: the old timey cameras to broadcast this game. Dude, I 906 00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:59,560 Speaker 1: don't know, but like I guess, I was so frustrated 907 00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,239 Speaker 1: during a game. I didn't know your vision you are, 908 00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:04,560 Speaker 1: your vision was already blurred a little bit from out 909 00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:07,960 Speaker 1: of frustration, Yes, dude, and and and I had had 910 00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:13,800 Speaker 1: about probably I had opened up a bottle of special 911 00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:18,680 Speaker 1: Reserve camus Like, dude, dude, I was so stressed. My 912 00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:22,279 Speaker 1: my wife was like, hey, yo, um, hey g g, Well, 913 00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:25,640 Speaker 1: why don't know, we get some wine? So okay, cool dude. 914 00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:27,440 Speaker 1: I went in there and I just picked up the 915 00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:32,640 Speaker 1: first bottle. I saw two bottle of wine. I finished 916 00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:38,200 Speaker 1: during I'll tell you what, Like, I didn't understand the 917 00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:41,840 Speaker 1: complaints because hey, I remember what life was like before HDTV, 918 00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:44,759 Speaker 1: and so you know, it'd be like complained to me. 919 00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,680 Speaker 1: It'd be like complaining about a flight, Like but I 920 00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:51,000 Speaker 1: remember like driving long distances in the car, And this 921 00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,439 Speaker 1: is no matter how inconvenient this is, this is still 922 00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,319 Speaker 1: a million times more convenient. And also at the same time, 923 00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:59,600 Speaker 1: I watched so much high school football and huddle film 924 00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:04,360 Speaker 1: that they're is literally no way to show me poor 925 00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:08,840 Speaker 1: enough broadcast quality for me to not d or or 926 00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:12,280 Speaker 1: or or watch n f HS. Oh my n FHS. 927 00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:15,480 Speaker 1: N FHS is for for people who don't know. It 928 00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:19,799 Speaker 1: is the broadcast partner of high schools where where they 929 00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:23,120 Speaker 1: have like a revenue share uh situation with the high 930 00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:26,840 Speaker 1: schools to be able to stream games on their website live. 931 00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:30,319 Speaker 1: But they use student filmers to film these games, don't 932 00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:32,239 Speaker 1: even update the scoreboard on them for most of them. 933 00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:36,640 Speaker 1: There's no commentary and the broadcast go out five minutes in. 934 00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,360 Speaker 1: It is the world and that's how I watch most 935 00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:43,920 Speaker 1: football is on either n f h S or YouTube 936 00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:47,000 Speaker 1: or on huddle. So people were talking about like the 937 00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:49,080 Speaker 1: broadcast being fuzzy for that game. I was like, are 938 00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:51,640 Speaker 1: you kidding me? This is the this is the greatest 939 00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:55,000 Speaker 1: broadcast I've ever seen. You know, it's not. I don't know. 940 00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:57,000 Speaker 1: I just saw a lot of people complaining and it didn't. 941 00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:01,080 Speaker 1: It didn't bother me that much. Yeah, and dude, I 942 00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:04,760 Speaker 1: watched it, dude, And you just watched my son's game 943 00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:08,040 Speaker 1: last week or part part of it. Dude. The cairrun 944 00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:14,160 Speaker 1: was wrong. Oh yeah, it's never right ever. Yeah. Um, 945 00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:17,360 Speaker 1: all right, so the next game up. Because we have 946 00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:20,120 Speaker 1: been accused of missing games, we will not miss games 947 00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:24,560 Speaker 1: even though we didn't miss a game. Um, you had 948 00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:29,200 Speaker 1: USC at Colorado. People were I remember too. This was 949 00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:33,120 Speaker 1: at eleven o'clock Pacific kick and I turned it on 950 00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:36,480 Speaker 1: when it first came on. But there was never any 951 00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:39,759 Speaker 1: doubt about what was gonna happen in this game, not 952 00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:46,040 Speaker 1: because Colorado's defense couldn't slow USC down, which they didn't 953 00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:49,080 Speaker 1: at all. It was thirty seven and fourteen. But I 954 00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:53,480 Speaker 1: knew Colorado's offense was not gonna make it happen at all. 955 00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:59,400 Speaker 1: And but you did have Brendan Lewis set one high 956 00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:03,000 Speaker 1: in past passing yards. He threw for a whole hundred 957 00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:06,280 Speaker 1: and sixty two yards, which is sixty two years yards 958 00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:10,400 Speaker 1: higher than his previous high. And so he's in five games. 959 00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:14,520 Speaker 1: Who is his opponent? USC? There you go, he has 960 00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:18,640 Speaker 1: finally for the second time this year, he's passed for 961 00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:23,040 Speaker 1: over a hundred yards, so in this may have been 962 00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:27,680 Speaker 1: Colorado's season high for yards. So you know, I guess 963 00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:35,320 Speaker 1: things are going in the right direction for Shiverini, right. Um. 964 00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:39,959 Speaker 1: I really like Darren Shiverini. Um, he has been there, 965 00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:43,680 Speaker 1: and you know, a Colorado fran I would like to 966 00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:47,320 Speaker 1: think that Colorado fans are conflicted about calling for he's 967 00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:52,000 Speaker 1: firing because without his continuity, they would be in even 968 00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:53,840 Speaker 1: worse shape because they wouldn't have been able to retain 969 00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:56,280 Speaker 1: some of the talent that they did through two different 970 00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:59,160 Speaker 1: coaching transitions. Um, but at the end of the day, 971 00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:01,440 Speaker 1: you gotta be able to move the ball. And while 972 00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:05,480 Speaker 1: I believe that Brendan Lewis has a future in this conference, Um, 973 00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:07,560 Speaker 1: the more he puts on film where they're not able 974 00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:09,560 Speaker 1: to move the ball down the field, the more of 975 00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:12,640 Speaker 1: a problem it becomes. And they just don't throw the 976 00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:15,600 Speaker 1: ball much, you know, it's like they don't trust him. 977 00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:17,720 Speaker 1: They don't have a single receiver on the roster with 978 00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:21,480 Speaker 1: seventy yards receiving and we're four weeks into the season, 979 00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:28,320 Speaker 1: so that's very bad for everybody. And uh, yeah, I 980 00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:31,240 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know how much I blame Darren Schiverini, 981 00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:34,560 Speaker 1: how much I blame J T. Shrouds knee getting treaded up, 982 00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:38,160 Speaker 1: or how much I blame uh not being able to 983 00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:40,640 Speaker 1: you know, firing one coach, not being able to retain another. 984 00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:44,000 Speaker 1: It's tough. The whole situation is tough. What did you 985 00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:47,720 Speaker 1: think of Carl Durrell's reaction to the loss by pushing 986 00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:51,440 Speaker 1: a guy's camera out of his hands. Dude, that was 987 00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:55,560 Speaker 1: ultimate frustration, right, yeah, it's not even like it's not 988 00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:57,320 Speaker 1: what the guy wasn't even like being pop Rocks. You 989 00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:01,440 Speaker 1: just standing stationary. You was like Carl Dorell ran up 990 00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:04,240 Speaker 1: to him with the purpose of interfering with it. Was 991 00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:06,960 Speaker 1: so mad, dud. Do you realize how mad that you 992 00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:11,160 Speaker 1: have to be because everybody else is upsetting usc and 993 00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:13,280 Speaker 1: you're like, we suck so bad, we can't even we 994 00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:17,919 Speaker 1: weren't even close. Do you realize how frustrating it must 995 00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:19,840 Speaker 1: be to sit on that sideline for three and a 996 00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:23,920 Speaker 1: half hours, four hours every weekend and you maybe hope 997 00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:27,000 Speaker 1: that something is different, and then you really realize, oh wait, 998 00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:29,960 Speaker 1: never mind, nothing's going to be different. Oh man, he's 999 00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:32,080 Speaker 1: out there living the life of a COVID nurse on 1000 00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:36,800 Speaker 1: the sideline of just like, oh, another day of watching 1001 00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:40,479 Speaker 1: things go to ship. Like I remember when they kicked 1002 00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:42,600 Speaker 1: that first field goal to end their twenty four straight 1003 00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:46,160 Speaker 1: drives without um without any points against airs on a state. 1004 00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:52,240 Speaker 1: The look on his face was relief, and it it 1005 00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:53,880 Speaker 1: made me feel bad for him. It made me feel 1006 00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:55,320 Speaker 1: bad for that whole program because I know, they got 1007 00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:58,280 Speaker 1: some really talented guys there, whether it's Mark Perry or 1008 00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:01,000 Speaker 1: Nate Landman or you know, really like Brendan Rice. I 1009 01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:04,640 Speaker 1: think their pair of running backs are fantastic. Um, you know, 1010 01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:08,439 Speaker 1: they're they're like eight years deep into not being able 1011 01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:10,520 Speaker 1: to use the tight end. They definitely have some deficiencies. 1012 01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:12,320 Speaker 1: They got a very young quarterback. There's a lot of 1013 01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:15,439 Speaker 1: stuff wrong with them. But like, how many points the game? 1014 01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:18,320 Speaker 1: How many points per game do you think that they're 1015 01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:27,200 Speaker 1: averaging ten? Nope, thirteen point eight terrible? Okay? How many 1016 01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:32,440 Speaker 1: points do you think they're giving up every game? Yep? 1017 01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:36,640 Speaker 1: Twenty three point eight? Wow? Okay, you're giving up ten 1018 01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:42,440 Speaker 1: more points than you are allowing. But that gets rough 1019 01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:46,480 Speaker 1: because it's just out of your reach. But they're not 1020 01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:51,240 Speaker 1: the worst though. They're not the worst in point differential though. 1021 01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:56,800 Speaker 1: Um Arizona is averaging seventeen points per game, but give 1022 01:00:56,920 --> 01:01:00,960 Speaker 1: but is giving up thirty one, so they have a 1023 01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:08,720 Speaker 1: fourteen point differential. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. Are 1024 01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:11,280 Speaker 1: we still in the process of giving Colorado credit for 1025 01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:16,040 Speaker 1: holding Texas A and M to very few points? No, 1026 01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:20,560 Speaker 1: because their quarterbacks, thinks clearly, but well actually actually yeah, yeah, yeah, 1027 01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:25,200 Speaker 1: but no, because ever since then they have given up 1028 01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:31,000 Speaker 1: thirty to Minnesota, thirty five to Arizona State, in thirty 1029 01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:37,360 Speaker 1: seven to USC. So so no, that was and then 1030 01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:40,280 Speaker 1: they yeah, that was an outlier Dude, that was an 1031 01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:43,880 Speaker 1: outlier route result. Um, but what do what do you 1032 01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:46,360 Speaker 1: see out of USC from this game? Because the thing 1033 01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:49,320 Speaker 1: I saw was is that Drake London is damn good? 1034 01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:52,080 Speaker 1: Like that was that? That was all I saw from 1035 01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:57,960 Speaker 1: the from this game was Jake London. Yeah. Um, Drake 1036 01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:04,880 Speaker 1: London at one point was calling for the football from 1037 01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:09,320 Speaker 1: the UM. I believe it was like the boundary side 1038 01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:13,480 Speaker 1: of the play. They ran a no huddle. Uh, they 1039 01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:16,600 Speaker 1: had a failed end zone play and then he started 1040 01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:20,520 Speaker 1: yelling for the ball and then Keet and Slovis threw 1041 01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:23,240 Speaker 1: him the ball at a place where only he could 1042 01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:27,600 Speaker 1: get it. He caught it with one hand. It was 1043 01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:31,800 Speaker 1: know that it the craziest thing to happen this weekend 1044 01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:34,560 Speaker 1: was for that to maybe not be the best catch 1045 01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:39,920 Speaker 1: in the back twelve, Like that's completely absurd that that. 1046 01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:42,560 Speaker 1: I've been arguing with myself for three days now on 1047 01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:45,080 Speaker 1: whether or not that or the Calvin Jackson catch was better. 1048 01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:47,760 Speaker 1: I haven't put a pole up and I think more 1049 01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:52,640 Speaker 1: people went with Drake London just because of the name recognition. 1050 01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:55,720 Speaker 1: But to me they were the same. They're both the 1051 01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:58,600 Speaker 1: catches of the year that happened in the same day. 1052 01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:01,280 Speaker 1: But Drake Lennon, it's fact him. The thing that said 1053 01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:03,520 Speaker 1: it apart was the fact that he was calling his shot. 1054 01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:06,840 Speaker 1: He was calling for the ball when it happened. And 1055 01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:12,439 Speaker 1: who who comes to mind for you when you when 1056 01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:14,240 Speaker 1: you think of like somebody's like a throw me the 1057 01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:16,800 Speaker 1: ball right now, It doesn't matter who's on me, just 1058 01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:21,600 Speaker 1: do it. Oh that that is a a big time 1059 01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:26,200 Speaker 1: wide wide receiver. Yeah, the only the only comps that 1060 01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:28,040 Speaker 1: you would even pop into your head or NFL Hall 1061 01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:33,000 Speaker 1: of Famers. Ye, no, you are. You are definitely right 1062 01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:37,160 Speaker 1: about that. He he high points the ball, he understands 1063 01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:39,120 Speaker 1: his body. And I think that's a two sport thing. 1064 01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:41,560 Speaker 1: I really do. I think that that's overblown in a 1065 01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:44,120 Speaker 1: lot of different cases, but in his You see it, 1066 01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:47,000 Speaker 1: if you understand basketball and you were you played two sports, 1067 01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:51,160 Speaker 1: you thought about playing two in college, it factors in 1068 01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:56,000 Speaker 1: as a receiver. It does, for sure. It definitely does. 1069 01:03:56,360 --> 01:04:00,200 Speaker 1: Um all right, So oh, I actually I guess in 1070 01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:03,440 Speaker 1: this USC team, what do you make out of them? Like, 1071 01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:06,480 Speaker 1: did you gain anything from this? Because this was the 1072 01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:08,600 Speaker 1: first game that they've been able to run the football. 1073 01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:11,000 Speaker 1: They ran for over two hundred yards and I can't 1074 01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:14,200 Speaker 1: remember the last time at that that that happened. Like 1075 01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:17,840 Speaker 1: have they found their their stride or it's just Colorado 1076 01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:20,880 Speaker 1: that bad? Um? I do not think that they have 1077 01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:25,040 Speaker 1: because they still don't have. It's it's weird, it's there's 1078 01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:27,560 Speaker 1: there's people playing that that didn't think that they're gonna 1079 01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:29,640 Speaker 1: be playing much this year because no Brew McCoy, no 1080 01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:34,400 Speaker 1: Jake Smith, um, Taj Washington is not contributing as often 1081 01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:37,080 Speaker 1: as I thought that he would when the season opened. 1082 01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:38,640 Speaker 1: I thought he was gonna be the breakout star in 1083 01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:41,640 Speaker 1: the conference. Drake London is who he is. They don't 1084 01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:44,760 Speaker 1: have playmakers at the running back position, and it's easier 1085 01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:47,000 Speaker 1: to rack up the yards when you're when when you've 1086 01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:51,120 Speaker 1: built a lead like that. Um, you know that we 1087 01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:53,080 Speaker 1: we keep making fun of the air raid as an offense, 1088 01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:55,800 Speaker 1: but if you look at the NFL, Cliff Kingsbury has 1089 01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:58,120 Speaker 1: found a way to make the air raids something that 1090 01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:00,440 Speaker 1: actually sets up the run and make to run the 1091 01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:03,320 Speaker 1: most important part of your offense, and I mean part 1092 01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:06,200 Speaker 1: of that is having an extremely mobile quarterback who keeps 1093 01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:08,640 Speaker 1: the defense on their toes um so that you can 1094 01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:11,640 Speaker 1: run all sorts of different plays for for different backs 1095 01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:14,439 Speaker 1: out of different sets. But you know that's not where 1096 01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:17,320 Speaker 1: this USC offense is yet, it's Colorado. I wouldn't get 1097 01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:20,280 Speaker 1: too excited about any win. I know that it's pretty 1098 01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:22,840 Speaker 1: common to vacillate back and forth. I'm like, the US 1099 01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:25,480 Speaker 1: is terrible. Oh, they might have a chance. I think 1100 01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:29,440 Speaker 1: that everybody should look at USC as like an old 1101 01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:33,400 Speaker 1: aging UFC fighter, of like, if I do what I'm 1102 01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:36,880 Speaker 1: supposed to, I'll probably win. But this is still a 1103 01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:40,320 Speaker 1: UFC fighter. There's still dangerous. They've still been in a 1104 01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:43,240 Speaker 1: lot of battles, so I can't make mistakes. So you 1105 01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:45,960 Speaker 1: have to take USC seriously. But if you do, you're 1106 01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:49,560 Speaker 1: gonna win. And that just goes to show that how 1107 01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:54,320 Speaker 1: far they've fallen as a as a brand in a school. Yeah, 1108 01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:57,919 Speaker 1: now that's a that's a good point, to very very 1109 01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:01,280 Speaker 1: good point. All right. The next game up, you had 1110 01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:09,880 Speaker 1: Washington State at cal and Cow's defense and offense are 1111 01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:15,280 Speaker 1: really bad right now, and Washington State is significantly better 1112 01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:21,160 Speaker 1: with Jaden Delora at quarterback, like he's he's the guy 1113 01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:24,600 Speaker 1: who can make things go. But he finished twenty or 1114 01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:28,440 Speaker 1: forty one for two nineteen three touchdowns, two picks though, 1115 01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:33,680 Speaker 1: um versus Chase Garber's who I mean? Like, on one hand, 1116 01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:40,280 Speaker 1: I think this Washington State defense actually might be pretty good. Um, 1117 01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:43,680 Speaker 1: but they're giving up twenty five points a game, so 1118 01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:48,800 Speaker 1: I'm not sure, like it's cow bad on offense or 1119 01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:55,200 Speaker 1: is Washington State better than we thought on defense? I 1120 01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:57,840 Speaker 1: remember remember when there was that narrative that Washington States 1121 01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:01,919 Speaker 1: defense was giving up on Rolovich and I pushed back 1122 01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:03,560 Speaker 1: against that and I said, no, I just think it's 1123 01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:07,200 Speaker 1: a like a stamina in depth thing. I saw them 1124 01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:09,400 Speaker 1: come out do the same thing, only this time they 1125 01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:12,040 Speaker 1: didn't let the game slip away. So they're evolving. Oh 1126 01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:16,880 Speaker 1: do you know what they started doing after halftime? They 1127 01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:21,280 Speaker 1: started warming up again after halftime, like you know how 1128 01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:26,080 Speaker 1: how teams do like a little quick stretch. This is 1129 01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:28,560 Speaker 1: the first time under Nick Rolovich that they've done that, 1130 01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:35,160 Speaker 1: like a quick stretch after halftime. Yeah, they they they 1131 01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:37,160 Speaker 1: I think they're blitzing people out of the second are 1132 01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:40,840 Speaker 1: as well, so to to keep things fresh Brennan Jackson 1133 01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:44,520 Speaker 1: had a couple of sacks. He's been good this year. UM, 1134 01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:48,480 Speaker 1: I like Justice Woods. I think they're okay. They're okay defense. 1135 01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:50,840 Speaker 1: I think they're an average defense. Six to seven in 1136 01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:53,200 Speaker 1: the Pact twelve is where they should be ranked. UM, 1137 01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:56,520 Speaker 1: here's the difference in this game for me, Max Borgi 1138 01:07:57,640 --> 01:08:05,400 Speaker 1: and Dion McIntosh had a total of twenty seven touches. Okay. 1139 01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:12,840 Speaker 1: Chris Street and Chris Brown and Damian Moore for Cal, 1140 01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:24,559 Speaker 1: had a total of I don't know eighteen eighteen. Cal needs. 1141 01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:26,960 Speaker 1: They've needed to be running the ball. They needed to 1142 01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:30,720 Speaker 1: establish the run. They Chris Street average six point four 1143 01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:34,000 Speaker 1: yards for carry, Chris Brown average five. I don't know 1144 01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:37,880 Speaker 1: what's going on with um de Carlos Brooks. I don't 1145 01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:40,559 Speaker 1: know why he's not playing right now. But they had 1146 01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:42,320 Speaker 1: the ability to run the ball, but they feel like 1147 01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:43,800 Speaker 1: they get behind and they need to get it all 1148 01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:47,200 Speaker 1: back with Chase Garber's and the truth is he's not. 1149 01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:51,480 Speaker 1: That's not him. He he's not a play from behind guy. 1150 01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:54,360 Speaker 1: He's not to bring you back guy. He's a manage 1151 01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:56,879 Speaker 1: the offense type of guys. Set him up for success. 1152 01:08:57,280 --> 01:09:00,800 Speaker 1: He'll be able to make some big throws here and there. Um, 1153 01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:03,720 Speaker 1: they've got decent receivers. I don't honestly, I just don't 1154 01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:05,720 Speaker 1: know what's going on with them. I will say they 1155 01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:10,080 Speaker 1: were the best dress team in in the entire Western US. 1156 01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:14,920 Speaker 1: I love the all midnight blue, Matt Helmet's whole uniform. 1157 01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:17,240 Speaker 1: I've never seen a team look so good while getting 1158 01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:23,840 Speaker 1: their ass kicked. But I don't know. It's just it's 1159 01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:25,600 Speaker 1: very helpful to have a mobile quarterback the way that 1160 01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:29,880 Speaker 1: Washington State does, and Chase Garber's is mobile. But I 1161 01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:33,360 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know. Man, he was sacked four times. 1162 01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:38,200 Speaker 1: He what are you going to make this team? Because 1163 01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:43,200 Speaker 1: Washington State is averaging twenty three points a game while 1164 01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:49,240 Speaker 1: they are giving up twenty five points a game. Washington State, 1165 01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:52,719 Speaker 1: you said, is averaging twenty three points a game. Well, 1166 01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:59,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I think you have a competitive team with 1167 01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:04,519 Speaker 1: j and do Lora and you don't otherwise. I think 1168 01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:10,280 Speaker 1: that Nick Rolovich's offense I thought would be more effective. Um, 1169 01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:13,479 Speaker 1: Calvin Jackson's a good receiver, Travell Harris is a good receiver. 1170 01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:16,719 Speaker 1: They have two good running backs. I thought the offense 1171 01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:19,679 Speaker 1: would be more explosive and more effective. But I don't 1172 01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:22,640 Speaker 1: think any quarterback on this roster is fully healthy, and 1173 01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:25,240 Speaker 1: maybe that has something to do with it. What's crazy 1174 01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:28,280 Speaker 1: is Nick Rolovich was used to going back and forth 1175 01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:30,880 Speaker 1: between quarterbacks in Hawaii, so this is nothing different for 1176 01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:34,880 Speaker 1: him to have the system established and built around different guys. 1177 01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:36,920 Speaker 1: It's just that in this case, you have one guy 1178 01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:41,000 Speaker 1: that's so much better in this offense than anybody else is. UM. 1179 01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:44,519 Speaker 1: I think Washington State is an incredibly dangerous team if 1180 01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:47,120 Speaker 1: they're not going to be breaking down in the second 1181 01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:52,640 Speaker 1: half like they were, because they're they're a team that 1182 01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:58,120 Speaker 1: just over the last two seasons, UM, they've they've managed 1183 01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:05,120 Speaker 1: victories over several UM of the teams within the UH, 1184 01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:08,080 Speaker 1: within within the Pack twelve. They you know, over the 1185 01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:11,080 Speaker 1: last few years, they found ways to be in some 1186 01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:15,800 Speaker 1: of these games. UM. And and I know that it's 1187 01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:18,519 Speaker 1: different personnel from the most part that Max Borg has 1188 01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:21,280 Speaker 1: been there forever UM. But I think they're a threat 1189 01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:26,719 Speaker 1: against anybody, especially in Pullman and I think Cal there's 1190 01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:28,400 Speaker 1: no reason Cal should have lost that game. But if 1191 01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:30,280 Speaker 1: they're gonna lose by more than one touchdown, and the 1192 01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:31,720 Speaker 1: rest of the Pack twelve needs to wake up to 1193 01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:34,080 Speaker 1: the fact that if you don't take Washington State seriously, 1194 01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:36,639 Speaker 1: they might get you. Oh for sure. Yep. And Cal 1195 01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:40,479 Speaker 1: came into the game averaging, you know, like twenty seven 1196 01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:43,400 Speaker 1: points a game, twenty eight points a game, and now 1197 01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:47,439 Speaker 1: they're down to two while they are giving up twenty 1198 01:11:47,479 --> 01:11:51,160 Speaker 1: seven point six points per game. So so wait, can 1199 01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:53,559 Speaker 1: you tell me again what what Cal is averaging per 1200 01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:59,080 Speaker 1: game this year? Uh, they are averaging. They're scoring twenty 1201 01:11:59,200 --> 01:12:06,200 Speaker 1: four point two points per game. Okay, so whof How 1202 01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:09,080 Speaker 1: would you feel if you were a fan? Seven six? 1203 01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:11,800 Speaker 1: How did you feel if you're a CAL fan and 1204 01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:17,640 Speaker 1: you watching Sunny Dikes beat TCU, who you lost to. 1205 01:12:18,439 --> 01:12:22,400 Speaker 1: You're watching Sunny Dikes get SMU to the point where 1206 01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:26,960 Speaker 1: they're basically like the ranked and you went from scoring 1207 01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:29,799 Speaker 1: thirty seven points a game in the year that Sunny 1208 01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:34,240 Speaker 1: Dikes stepped down two. These are this is justin Wilcox's 1209 01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:40,080 Speaker 1: tenure points a game in seen, two points a game in, 1210 01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:45,800 Speaker 1: two points a game in twenty nineteen, twenty points a 1211 01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:50,920 Speaker 1: game in and now four points a game in one 1212 01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:53,839 Speaker 1: at the early part of the season, coming off scoring 1213 01:12:53,960 --> 01:13:00,360 Speaker 1: six for the first time in nine years. It's been 1214 01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:06,360 Speaker 1: nine years since they were held under seven points. That's wild, dude, 1215 01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:09,160 Speaker 1: But they but you also have to trade that for 1216 01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:13,800 Speaker 1: the worst defense in it's double aid, so I mean, 1217 01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:17,680 Speaker 1: which made his tenure untenable as well. Um, but it 1218 01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:20,080 Speaker 1: is it's resting, not the cow's poweling up a lot 1219 01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:23,639 Speaker 1: of yardage. They are only their sixth in the league 1220 01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:26,080 Speaker 1: though in yards per game at over four hundred yards 1221 01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:30,439 Speaker 1: a game. But then, but then when you but then 1222 01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:33,080 Speaker 1: they're not able to punch it in because their fourth 1223 01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:36,599 Speaker 1: worst in the conference, So their ninth in the conference 1224 01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:39,679 Speaker 1: and total points per game despite being sixth in yards 1225 01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:43,800 Speaker 1: per game. Yeah, I will say quietly, Daniel Scott's having 1226 01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:45,800 Speaker 1: a very good season on defense for them. He's got 1227 01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:48,120 Speaker 1: three interceptions. And you know, there hasn't been a lot 1228 01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:50,679 Speaker 1: of reason to talk about Col's defense because their offense 1229 01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:54,960 Speaker 1: isn't keeping him in these games and long enough to win. Um, 1230 01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:57,360 Speaker 1: but I don't know this. This is a very boring, 1231 01:13:57,600 --> 01:14:01,439 Speaker 1: nondescript team. And and and one of the things about 1232 01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:04,400 Speaker 1: not even being exciting at all and losing is that 1233 01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:08,519 Speaker 1: will get your fan base typically pretty apathetic Cal fan base, 1234 01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:11,679 Speaker 1: even though the Cal die hards are probably my favorite 1235 01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:13,559 Speaker 1: fan base in the entire Pack twelve because they're just 1236 01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:16,920 Speaker 1: especially on the message boards and stuff, they're really cool 1237 01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:20,560 Speaker 1: people and and I I want their team to be successful. 1238 01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:22,080 Speaker 1: I feel like the Pact twelve is more fun when 1239 01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:25,960 Speaker 1: they are um. But that if you're not giving anybody 1240 01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:28,559 Speaker 1: anything to be excited about, then they're they're gonna be 1241 01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:30,880 Speaker 1: done with you. And this might this might be it, 1242 01:14:31,320 --> 01:14:33,080 Speaker 1: This might be it for Justin Wilcox because if you 1243 01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:35,799 Speaker 1: think about it, George, it seems weird because he wasn't 1244 01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:40,400 Speaker 1: on the the hot seat coming into the season, Like 1245 01:14:40,439 --> 01:14:43,519 Speaker 1: there was nothing about his seat that that that was hot. 1246 01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:46,320 Speaker 1: But it feels like something's going wrong. I don't think 1247 01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:48,479 Speaker 1: that they're gonna fire him, I mean unless they go 1248 01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:52,920 Speaker 1: like one in eleven. But is there any fourth year 1249 01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:55,720 Speaker 1: head coach in the Pac twelve that would be able 1250 01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:57,840 Speaker 1: to have an excuse for going too and seven over 1251 01:14:57,880 --> 01:15:04,160 Speaker 1: their last nine. No, fourth year, he's in his fourth 1252 01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:07,200 Speaker 1: year and there two and seven over the last nine. Oh, 1253 01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:10,920 Speaker 1: that's tough, dude, that's tough. He's he's gonna have to, 1254 01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:14,200 Speaker 1: like you expect his team to be a bowl team. 1255 01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:17,880 Speaker 1: Like just worst case scenario, you you you finished six 1256 01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:20,559 Speaker 1: and six, you make a ball like and would you 1257 01:15:20,680 --> 01:15:23,479 Speaker 1: expect him to be seven and five though, right? And 1258 01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:26,240 Speaker 1: I feel like he saved his job with the way 1259 01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:30,200 Speaker 1: that he closed out twenty nineteen because if you remember, 1260 01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:32,320 Speaker 1: you could you could say that he's two and seven 1261 01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:34,719 Speaker 1: in his last nine, or you could go back even 1262 01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:38,519 Speaker 1: further and say that he is six and twelve in 1263 01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:42,240 Speaker 1: his last eighteen, because he had that stretch in twenty 1264 01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:44,679 Speaker 1: nineteen where they lost to Arizona State as a ranked team, 1265 01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:47,280 Speaker 1: then they got held to seven by Oregon, then they 1266 01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:51,200 Speaker 1: got beat by Oregon State, then they got blanked by Utah, 1267 01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:53,160 Speaker 1: and then they had a win over Washington State before 1268 01:15:53,240 --> 01:15:55,720 Speaker 1: losing the USC. The way they closed that season out 1269 01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:58,040 Speaker 1: was to beat Stanford at Stanford, beat u c l 1270 01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:00,280 Speaker 1: A at u c l A, and beat Only in 1271 01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:02,960 Speaker 1: the Red Box Bowl. So a lot was forgiven that 1272 01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:04,719 Speaker 1: they ended up eight and five, but at one point 1273 01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:08,680 Speaker 1: they were five and five. So that little hot run 1274 01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:10,920 Speaker 1: at the end of twenty nineteen maybe built up a 1275 01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:12,759 Speaker 1: good enough will for him to get to this point. 1276 01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:15,000 Speaker 1: But they're two and seven in their last nine, and 1277 01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:19,840 Speaker 1: if discontinues, what reason is there to keep Justin Wilcox around. Yeah, no, no, 1278 01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:28,120 Speaker 1: that's reasonable and um so for coming from Sharp's college 1279 01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:32,960 Speaker 1: football the week five pack twelve raw points per drive. 1280 01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:38,559 Speaker 1: Colorado is averaging point seven points per drive bro while 1281 01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:40,960 Speaker 1: the while the top of the conference is a su 1282 01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:45,840 Speaker 1: at two point nine points per drive. Last week chet 1283 01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:50,639 Speaker 1: it that ain't good. But now onto the next game, 1284 01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:57,600 Speaker 1: you had Washington at Oregon State. Washington looked to be 1285 01:16:57,720 --> 01:16:59,880 Speaker 1: doing some good things in the beginning of this game. 1286 01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:02,360 Speaker 1: I think they got up ten zero, but then they 1287 01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:06,479 Speaker 1: ended up down fourteen ten at halftime, and then in 1288 01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:12,080 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter they were up to seventeen after an 1289 01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:19,040 Speaker 1: Oregon State interception. And this was just a brutal displayed 1290 01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:24,439 Speaker 1: by Washington. You had Oregon State and Chance Nolan. He 1291 01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:29,840 Speaker 1: was seven for fifteen for forty eight yards and an interception, 1292 01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:38,479 Speaker 1: and they ran for fifty times for two hundred and 1293 01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:43,240 Speaker 1: forty two yards at four point eight yards per carry. Ralph, 1294 01:17:43,280 --> 01:17:47,800 Speaker 1: they only threw for forty eight yards man forty eight 1295 01:17:47,880 --> 01:17:54,840 Speaker 1: yards and you lose a football game. What the hell 1296 01:17:54,960 --> 01:18:02,400 Speaker 1: is happening? Because Washington in the beginning of that game, 1297 01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:04,880 Speaker 1: they looked like, oh yeah, yo, They've opened up the offense. 1298 01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:09,719 Speaker 1: They're throwing it around and it's just not working. Out, dude. 1299 01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:16,040 Speaker 1: But but they're leading rushers were Sean McGrew and Camari Pleasant, 1300 01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:20,080 Speaker 1: which should make you happy. It would make me happy 1301 01:18:20,240 --> 01:18:23,519 Speaker 1: if it wasn't, if if it didn't just remind me. 1302 01:18:24,160 --> 01:18:26,360 Speaker 1: Everything reminds me of the fact that they didn't play 1303 01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:31,519 Speaker 1: in the first two weeks. This is what. But but 1304 01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:35,760 Speaker 1: the majority of they were captains. They were both captains 1305 01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:40,920 Speaker 1: for this game, George. And the funny part about it, dude, 1306 01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:44,080 Speaker 1: is that these dudes is that the majority of Sean 1307 01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:50,040 Speaker 1: mcgrew's hundred yards came off of off of wild cat football. 1308 01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:57,280 Speaker 1: I looked good. It looked good. I mean, you shouldn't 1309 01:18:57,320 --> 01:18:59,280 Speaker 1: have to rely on the wildcat to get wins. It 1310 01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:01,599 Speaker 1: should just be part of your offense. But it look 1311 01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:06,040 Speaker 1: good to me. Absolutely hate the Wildcat. Hated hated it 1312 01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:09,640 Speaker 1: at all because there there's like, there's nothing you can 1313 01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:13,799 Speaker 1: do with your quarterback. You can't throw, throw the ball everything. 1314 01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:17,479 Speaker 1: It makes you clearly one dimensional. And then being that 1315 01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:19,760 Speaker 1: they never hand the ball off, that he just keeps 1316 01:19:19,800 --> 01:19:23,360 Speaker 1: it every time, it's it's gonna run out of talent 1317 01:19:23,439 --> 01:19:26,720 Speaker 1: eventually as soon as they play against a good defense, 1318 01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:30,040 Speaker 1: because Organ State's defense is not even one of the 1319 01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:33,920 Speaker 1: better defenses in the conference. But organ State is leading 1320 01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:37,800 Speaker 1: this conference and scoring at thirty six points a game. Um, 1321 01:19:37,880 --> 01:19:41,360 Speaker 1: and then they're giving up Oh actually Organ States only 1322 01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:45,479 Speaker 1: get given up twenty one points a game. So the 1323 01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:48,040 Speaker 1: whole things confusing for me because they obviously went into 1324 01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:50,760 Speaker 1: this season wanting Richard Newton and Cameron Davis to be 1325 01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:54,240 Speaker 1: the guys. Right, Richard Newton has been dressed out two 1326 01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:57,360 Speaker 1: weeks in a row, but they're they're kind of head faking. 1327 01:19:57,800 --> 01:20:00,240 Speaker 1: They're saying he's too banged up to play, so they 1328 01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:05,480 Speaker 1: put Cameron Davis in. Cameron Davis gets one carry, fumbles, 1329 01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:08,480 Speaker 1: Oregon State scores a touchdown on like the next play, 1330 01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:10,360 Speaker 1: and then Cameron Davis does not play for the rest 1331 01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:14,479 Speaker 1: of the game. And so the whole time I'm thinking, well, 1332 01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:16,240 Speaker 1: if you believed in him, why not put him back 1333 01:20:16,240 --> 01:20:19,080 Speaker 1: out there and help him regain his confidence. But also, 1334 01:20:19,320 --> 01:20:20,880 Speaker 1: why the hell was he out there in the first 1335 01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:23,560 Speaker 1: place when you could have just given the ball to 1336 01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:27,000 Speaker 1: Comari Pleasant, who is at this point George averaging six 1337 01:20:27,040 --> 01:20:31,280 Speaker 1: point two yards to carry, He's averaging six point two 1338 01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:34,599 Speaker 1: yards of carry ten yards of reception, or Sean McGrew, 1339 01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:39,920 Speaker 1: who has six touchdowns. He has three times as many 1340 01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:42,960 Speaker 1: touchdowns as the rest of your team. As far as 1341 01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:47,880 Speaker 1: rushing combined, Kay Dotton is banged up, so that's not 1342 01:20:47,920 --> 01:20:50,439 Speaker 1: good Torell Buying him has not been what you need 1343 01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:52,800 Speaker 1: him to be. As far as a As far as 1344 01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:58,320 Speaker 1: the number one option, Dylan Morris is, I don't know. 1345 01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:02,840 Speaker 1: Dylan Morris has a way of like completing a twenty 1346 01:21:02,920 --> 01:21:06,160 Speaker 1: yard pass when the game's nothing nothing with a completely 1347 01:21:06,200 --> 01:21:08,600 Speaker 1: clean pocket and having the announcers be like, what a 1348 01:21:08,680 --> 01:21:14,080 Speaker 1: gut's he throw by Dylan Morris, Like the expectations have 1349 01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:16,880 Speaker 1: gotten so low for him that if he does anything right, 1350 01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:20,559 Speaker 1: people are like, oh my goodness, Washington on the move. 1351 01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:30,840 Speaker 1: That's bad. That's the soft bigotry of low expectations. I 1352 01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:32,920 Speaker 1: don't know, man. They walk around those run the damn 1353 01:21:32,960 --> 01:21:34,759 Speaker 1: ball hats. And it took him this long to figure 1354 01:21:34,760 --> 01:21:37,280 Speaker 1: out that the that the guys that were their best 1355 01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:40,720 Speaker 1: option out of the backfield last year would continue to 1356 01:21:40,760 --> 01:21:45,080 Speaker 1: be that this year. The offensive line, Uh was overhyped, 1357 01:21:45,960 --> 01:21:50,479 Speaker 1: the defense was overhyped. Um, it's not gonna matter by 1358 01:21:50,479 --> 01:21:54,600 Speaker 1: the time they get for two e back. Um. I 1359 01:21:54,640 --> 01:21:58,680 Speaker 1: don't know, dude. This is the secondary. The secondary was 1360 01:21:58,760 --> 01:22:01,360 Speaker 1: as advertised. That's all I have to say about Washington. 1361 01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:04,400 Speaker 1: This isn't even like the third best secondary Washington has 1362 01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:09,000 Speaker 1: put together in the last four years. However, it is 1363 01:22:09,040 --> 01:22:11,840 Speaker 1: still very very good. But if you're gonna be able 1364 01:22:11,840 --> 01:22:14,080 Speaker 1: to get gashed in the running game by the least 1365 01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:18,559 Speaker 1: recruiting level talented team in the entire back twelve, then 1366 01:22:19,160 --> 01:22:23,600 Speaker 1: I don't know what to say. They put the the 1367 01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:27,640 Speaker 1: fact that so what what did Washington do at the 1368 01:22:27,720 --> 01:22:29,920 Speaker 1: end of this game? They it was there at midfield 1369 01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:35,120 Speaker 1: and they could have pinned Oregon State with like three 1370 01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:39,679 Speaker 1: minutes left, but instead they went forward on fourth down, 1371 01:22:40,120 --> 01:22:42,200 Speaker 1: and they can note, well, well, they went for I 1372 01:22:42,240 --> 01:22:45,799 Speaker 1: think a wildcat first, and then they did a quarterback sneak, 1373 01:22:45,880 --> 01:22:49,320 Speaker 1: which they are typically very successful on quarterback sneaks like, 1374 01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:52,280 Speaker 1: but they were like that with Dylan Morris, even though 1375 01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:54,559 Speaker 1: Sean McGrew had been getting them a bunch of yards 1376 01:22:54,560 --> 01:22:58,599 Speaker 1: in the wildcat. Yeah. I don't see what the problem is, Ralph, 1377 01:22:58,840 --> 01:23:02,360 Speaker 1: Why why why is anybody upset or frustrated with with 1378 01:23:02,439 --> 01:23:08,200 Speaker 1: what happened? I think that honestly, like, uh, I don't 1379 01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:09,800 Speaker 1: like the second guess people who do this for a 1380 01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:12,519 Speaker 1: living but like, punting in that situation would have been 1381 01:23:13,240 --> 01:23:16,479 Speaker 1: money because you have over three minutes left, you're playing 1382 01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:19,439 Speaker 1: the field position game, and a safety would have won 1383 01:23:19,439 --> 01:23:22,920 Speaker 1: the game. I don't think Oregon States marching a hundred 1384 01:23:23,000 --> 01:23:27,760 Speaker 1: yards in three minutes. You had held their quarterback to 1385 01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:31,519 Speaker 1: what how many yards passing, so they're gonna have to 1386 01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:33,720 Speaker 1: go a hundred yards not being able to throw the 1387 01:23:33,760 --> 01:23:39,439 Speaker 1: ball punt, yeah, if Okay, I'm a not a huge 1388 01:23:39,479 --> 01:23:42,439 Speaker 1: believer in punting. Like, if if you were up five 1389 01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:46,160 Speaker 1: right there, I probably go for it. But up seven 1390 01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:52,040 Speaker 1: I punt right there? Probably. Yeah. I don't know, man, 1391 01:23:52,120 --> 01:23:55,600 Speaker 1: unless I'm very confident in my in my team's ability 1392 01:23:55,880 --> 01:23:58,880 Speaker 1: to pick it up. Um, all right. The next game 1393 01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:05,920 Speaker 1: up you had at U c l A at Arizona 1394 01:24:05,960 --> 01:24:09,360 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Arizona State at U c l A. Yeah, 1395 01:24:09,680 --> 01:24:11,719 Speaker 1: this was a game. This didn't go like I thought 1396 01:24:11,720 --> 01:24:14,360 Speaker 1: it was gonna go. It was twenty three to twenty 1397 01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:19,720 Speaker 1: four at halftime, and then Arizona State did not give 1398 01:24:19,800 --> 01:24:23,040 Speaker 1: up another point in the second half, rattled off eighteen 1399 01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:28,360 Speaker 1: and like at the end of the day, Dorian Thompson 1400 01:24:28,439 --> 01:24:34,280 Speaker 1: Robinson did not play poorly. No, but but as we've 1401 01:24:34,280 --> 01:24:37,800 Speaker 1: seen with quarterbacks who get out there and they run 1402 01:24:37,840 --> 01:24:40,920 Speaker 1: for a lot of yards, it takes something from you 1403 01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:45,400 Speaker 1: because he looked like there were times that were he 1404 01:24:45,479 --> 01:24:49,439 Speaker 1: was like, okay, one to one, Mississippi to Mississippi three 1405 01:24:49,439 --> 01:24:53,960 Speaker 1: Mississippi run like instead of you know, passing the ball 1406 01:24:54,120 --> 01:24:58,080 Speaker 1: in some circumstances, like you have to think that some 1407 01:24:58,160 --> 01:25:01,840 Speaker 1: of those that windows where we're open. Because he ended 1408 01:25:01,920 --> 01:25:05,640 Speaker 1: up with nineteen carries, which is a lot if you 1409 01:25:05,760 --> 01:25:07,479 Speaker 1: if you just go back in the history of dual 1410 01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:11,559 Speaker 1: threat quarterbacks in football and not run first Tommy Frasier option. Guys, 1411 01:25:12,040 --> 01:25:13,720 Speaker 1: if you go back and look at the history of 1412 01:25:13,800 --> 01:25:18,760 Speaker 1: dual threat quarterbacks, you will often find any quarterback that 1413 01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:20,799 Speaker 1: ends up with a whole over a hundred yards rushing 1414 01:25:21,840 --> 01:25:26,440 Speaker 1: gases out, isn't able to move the offense through traditional 1415 01:25:26,479 --> 01:25:29,040 Speaker 1: means because they took too many hits. They had to 1416 01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:32,480 Speaker 1: scramble too much. They're seeing ghosts, they're seeing extra defenders, 1417 01:25:33,040 --> 01:25:35,840 Speaker 1: they're a little bit aunty. They they're being told by 1418 01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:38,920 Speaker 1: their coach to settle down and not lean into the run. 1419 01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:40,840 Speaker 1: Which is why Lamar Jackson is one of the most 1420 01:25:40,880 --> 01:25:44,000 Speaker 1: unique athletes we've ever seen at the quarterback position because 1421 01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:46,680 Speaker 1: Bobby Petrino was just like, do whatever the hell you want, like, 1422 01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:51,240 Speaker 1: go get it, you know. So um with with dtr 1423 01:25:51,640 --> 01:25:53,960 Speaker 1: if that was gonna be Chip Kelly's attitude of like, hey, 1424 01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:55,840 Speaker 1: you're getting yards of your legs, let's just do it. 1425 01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:58,759 Speaker 1: Every single time, they lined up in the weirdest formation 1426 01:25:58,800 --> 01:26:02,240 Speaker 1: I've ever seen and ran a quarterback draw up the middle. 1427 01:26:03,640 --> 01:26:08,360 Speaker 1: They had um three offensive linemen and then two split 1428 01:26:08,400 --> 01:26:12,719 Speaker 1: out with receivers in trips on both sides, and Dorian 1429 01:26:12,760 --> 01:26:16,320 Speaker 1: Thompson Robinson snapped the ball and ran up the middle 1430 01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:20,680 Speaker 1: in this weird formation for thirty five yard game. And 1431 01:26:20,720 --> 01:26:23,200 Speaker 1: that was a that was really a commitment to it, right, 1432 01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:25,080 Speaker 1: But then in the end it's like, okay, well we're down, 1433 01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:26,679 Speaker 1: we need to make this up. In the passing game, 1434 01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:29,720 Speaker 1: Dorian Thompson Robinson's taking a bunch of hits, and it's 1435 01:26:29,760 --> 01:26:31,960 Speaker 1: just that to me what happened with him as a 1436 01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:34,320 Speaker 1: tail as old as time. He played well, but he 1437 01:26:34,400 --> 01:26:37,000 Speaker 1: gassed out with all these little runs that didn't really 1438 01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:40,320 Speaker 1: result in too many points for them. The score was 1439 01:26:40,360 --> 01:26:46,080 Speaker 1: forty twenty three, but it is feasible that this game 1440 01:26:46,120 --> 01:26:51,280 Speaker 1: could have been fifty to seventeen because not only did 1441 01:26:51,320 --> 01:26:54,960 Speaker 1: Arizona State leave points on the table, they gave u 1442 01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:57,640 Speaker 1: c l A two field goals, just handed them to 1443 01:26:57,760 --> 01:27:01,200 Speaker 1: field goals through a muff punt return and another mistake. 1444 01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:05,360 Speaker 1: So this was a This was a blowout, and you 1445 01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:09,120 Speaker 1: still didn't really see Arizona State fully running on all 1446 01:27:09,320 --> 01:27:13,639 Speaker 1: cylinders because Arizona State didn't have Johnny Wilson. Um, Tyler 1447 01:27:13,720 --> 01:27:17,320 Speaker 1: Johnson wasn't fully healthy. Uh, they didn't have their leading 1448 01:27:17,360 --> 01:27:20,759 Speaker 1: tackler in Evan Fields. So all of a sudden, Arizona 1449 01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:22,559 Speaker 1: State comes into the game missing a bunch of people, 1450 01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:24,800 Speaker 1: and they still did this to u c l A 1451 01:27:24,800 --> 01:27:27,519 Speaker 1: at the Rose Bowl. And uh, U c l a's 1452 01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:31,160 Speaker 1: defensive backs are not that good, um comparatively, Um, they're 1453 01:27:31,160 --> 01:27:34,439 Speaker 1: better than me, obviously, but um, Ricky Pierson had a day. 1454 01:27:35,240 --> 01:27:38,760 Speaker 1: They got tore up by Ricky Pierson. And that is um, 1455 01:27:38,800 --> 01:27:42,240 Speaker 1: that is humbling for sure. Oh yeah, that is more 1456 01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:45,519 Speaker 1: than humbling. UM. But I also I have not seen 1457 01:27:45,560 --> 01:27:47,719 Speaker 1: one person out there say that this gave them any 1458 01:27:47,760 --> 01:27:50,840 Speaker 1: extra faith in Arizona State to continue to do what 1459 01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:53,160 Speaker 1: they're capable of. And you yourself, George, told me you 1460 01:27:53,200 --> 01:27:56,120 Speaker 1: needed to see them beat somebody that mattered where is 1461 01:27:56,160 --> 01:28:02,080 Speaker 1: your head at Now I'm still I'm still unsure because 1462 01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:09,080 Speaker 1: I've felt more unsure about USC. I'm sorry about U 1463 01:28:09,080 --> 01:28:12,000 Speaker 1: c l A. After this game, then I felt confident 1464 01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:17,479 Speaker 1: about a SU because U c l A has the 1465 01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:21,280 Speaker 1: third worst past defense in the country. They are at 1466 01:28:21,320 --> 01:28:23,920 Speaker 1: they are giving up an averager three hundred and twenty 1467 01:28:23,960 --> 01:28:31,040 Speaker 1: one yards per game and in Arizona States pass defense 1468 01:28:31,200 --> 01:28:33,760 Speaker 1: is given up a buck forty six a game. But 1469 01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:39,479 Speaker 1: like their their schedule hasn't been like great. But I 1470 01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:44,360 Speaker 1: am I believe in this team much much more in 1471 01:28:44,479 --> 01:28:48,120 Speaker 1: Arizona State than I than I did, And now I 1472 01:28:48,160 --> 01:28:53,519 Speaker 1: think that they are capable of going ten in two. 1473 01:28:54,320 --> 01:28:56,240 Speaker 1: I think they have three of the top fifteen running 1474 01:28:56,280 --> 01:28:59,760 Speaker 1: backs in the conference, and they're all getting carries, and 1475 01:28:59,800 --> 01:29:01,599 Speaker 1: they you throw Jade Daniels in the fact that he's 1476 01:29:01,600 --> 01:29:03,720 Speaker 1: already got three hundred yards rushing in on top of that, 1477 01:29:04,479 --> 01:29:09,559 Speaker 1: George they got sixteen rushing touchdowns. Like, they are very, 1478 01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:12,360 Speaker 1: very committed to running the ball. And they have Stanford 1479 01:29:12,400 --> 01:29:17,040 Speaker 1: next and that could be the difference for them. They've 1480 01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:20,519 Speaker 1: got players on defense who are just old. I think 1481 01:29:20,520 --> 01:29:21,960 Speaker 1: that has a lot to do with it. Like Kyle 1482 01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:25,240 Speaker 1: Soli is a red shirt junior in his fourth year. 1483 01:29:25,360 --> 01:29:28,439 Speaker 1: Darian Butler is a red shirt senior or something like that, 1484 01:29:28,479 --> 01:29:31,400 Speaker 1: in his fourth or fifth year. Merlon Robinson is in 1485 01:29:31,520 --> 01:29:35,160 Speaker 1: his uh fourth year. DeAndre Pierce is in his fifth 1486 01:29:35,200 --> 01:29:39,080 Speaker 1: or sixth year. D J. Davidson is finished high school 1487 01:29:39,120 --> 01:29:43,200 Speaker 1: in and he's still like a junior. Evan Fields is 1488 01:29:43,200 --> 01:29:45,400 Speaker 1: in his fourth or fifth year. Like the guys that 1489 01:29:45,439 --> 01:29:47,839 Speaker 1: are on the field, Chase Lucas is a five year starter. 1490 01:29:48,560 --> 01:29:51,320 Speaker 1: Tyler Johnson is in his fifth year. They're just very 1491 01:29:51,400 --> 01:29:55,640 Speaker 1: old on defense UM with some young talent mixed in 1492 01:29:56,080 --> 01:29:58,040 Speaker 1: and offensively, if they're going to have a guy like 1493 01:29:58,120 --> 01:30:00,519 Speaker 1: Ricky Pierce, I'll show up and be a to like 1494 01:30:00,640 --> 01:30:04,479 Speaker 1: dominate at the receiver position. It's a big that's a 1495 01:30:04,479 --> 01:30:07,160 Speaker 1: big yikes for for everybody else in the conference to 1496 01:30:07,240 --> 01:30:10,080 Speaker 1: have to um to have to deal with them. And 1497 01:30:10,280 --> 01:30:14,240 Speaker 1: they also their leading receivers still Shot White. For the 1498 01:30:14,280 --> 01:30:17,759 Speaker 1: second year in a row. There leading receiver is Rashot White. 1499 01:30:17,880 --> 01:30:22,600 Speaker 1: So UM, I don't know, man, I think that I 1500 01:30:22,640 --> 01:30:26,840 Speaker 1: think they don't beat themselves. The path forward is not 1501 01:30:27,000 --> 01:30:30,040 Speaker 1: filled with a ton of a ton of resistance. On 1502 01:30:30,080 --> 01:30:32,640 Speaker 1: the other hand, I think that that u c l A. 1503 01:30:33,320 --> 01:30:37,120 Speaker 1: Is probably they're in a position where, you know, I 1504 01:30:37,160 --> 01:30:38,760 Speaker 1: think going five hundred the rest of the way, it 1505 01:30:38,760 --> 01:30:42,040 Speaker 1: would be a pretty good season for them. Yeah, yeah, 1506 01:30:42,200 --> 01:30:44,800 Speaker 1: I can agree with that. Do you think do you 1507 01:30:44,840 --> 01:30:47,600 Speaker 1: think that with all of the teams talking about possibly 1508 01:30:47,600 --> 01:30:50,080 Speaker 1: making a change it and head coach, that U c 1509 01:30:50,240 --> 01:30:51,760 Speaker 1: l A Fans would be able to stomach a seven 1510 01:30:51,840 --> 01:30:57,280 Speaker 1: eight win season? Yes? Yeah, I still have them winning 1511 01:30:57,680 --> 01:31:01,360 Speaker 1: eight games on the minimum. On the minimum, I think 1512 01:31:01,360 --> 01:31:06,240 Speaker 1: that they ultimately get to nine wins, but that only 1513 01:31:06,360 --> 01:31:10,160 Speaker 1: leaves one one win one loss left. Do you think 1514 01:31:10,200 --> 01:31:14,520 Speaker 1: that the losses take Dorian Thompson Robinson out of the 1515 01:31:14,600 --> 01:31:17,880 Speaker 1: contention for Pack twelve Offensive Player of the Year, even 1516 01:31:17,880 --> 01:31:20,640 Speaker 1: though he's pretty much playing perfect football. No, no, no, 1517 01:31:21,320 --> 01:31:22,960 Speaker 1: I don't either. I think I think I think he's 1518 01:31:22,960 --> 01:31:28,719 Speaker 1: probably maybe the club. There's no quarterback who's been outstanding enough. 1519 01:31:29,080 --> 01:31:31,559 Speaker 1: There's no running back who's running away with with it. 1520 01:31:31,600 --> 01:31:33,760 Speaker 1: I think as we get deeper into Pac twelve played, 1521 01:31:33,880 --> 01:31:37,320 Speaker 1: that will reveal itself. Um all right, now it's time 1522 01:31:37,400 --> 01:31:41,960 Speaker 1: for our Pack twelve power rankings and we go twelve 1523 01:31:42,040 --> 01:31:47,400 Speaker 1: to seven and then one to six. Um, Ralph, who 1524 01:31:47,400 --> 01:31:50,800 Speaker 1: do you have from your twelve to seven this week, 1525 01:31:52,320 --> 01:31:54,920 Speaker 1: Arizona and Colorado at the bottom. They shouldn't even be 1526 01:31:54,960 --> 01:32:00,520 Speaker 1: part of this. Um calip ten, Washington at nine, Washington 1527 01:32:00,680 --> 01:32:05,919 Speaker 1: State at eight, and Utah at seven. Bro, we are 1528 01:32:05,920 --> 01:32:09,880 Speaker 1: our rankings are very similar. I am exactly the same 1529 01:32:09,920 --> 01:32:13,760 Speaker 1: as you, really, So what's your justification for Washington State 1530 01:32:13,800 --> 01:32:22,000 Speaker 1: over Washington? Uh that when that when Washington State has 1531 01:32:22,040 --> 01:32:27,760 Speaker 1: had Jaden Delora at quarterback, they've won football games? Yeah, 1532 01:32:27,800 --> 01:32:30,200 Speaker 1: like that, there's my that that they didn't have him 1533 01:32:30,240 --> 01:32:34,559 Speaker 1: against Utah so and they didn't have him for pretty 1534 01:32:34,640 --> 01:32:37,840 Speaker 1: much all of the USC game. So what what am 1535 01:32:37,840 --> 01:32:42,679 Speaker 1: I supposed to uh to make of that? And then um, 1536 01:32:42,760 --> 01:32:49,320 Speaker 1: and then Washington dude, they've lost to Montana, Michigan and 1537 01:32:49,479 --> 01:32:52,840 Speaker 1: Oregon State. Like what like when in Montana lost to 1538 01:32:52,880 --> 01:32:54,519 Speaker 1: Eastern Washington by the way, I don't know if you 1539 01:32:54,560 --> 01:32:57,120 Speaker 1: saw that game. So now they've now lost to a 1540 01:32:57,160 --> 01:32:59,479 Speaker 1: big sky team that lost to another big Sky team? 1541 01:33:00,280 --> 01:33:03,799 Speaker 1: What what am I supposed to make of that? So? Uh? 1542 01:33:03,880 --> 01:33:07,840 Speaker 1: So that's why so we are exactly the same there, 1543 01:33:08,040 --> 01:33:11,639 Speaker 1: um and then who do you have? Six to one? 1544 01:33:13,040 --> 01:33:18,600 Speaker 1: USC at six? Stanford at five? Which is the iffiest 1545 01:33:18,600 --> 01:33:21,479 Speaker 1: one for me because obviously I went over Oregon is 1546 01:33:21,479 --> 01:33:24,920 Speaker 1: a really big deal. Um U c l A at four, 1547 01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:29,200 Speaker 1: Oregon State at three, Arizona State at two, and then 1548 01:33:29,200 --> 01:33:31,320 Speaker 1: despite being the number three team in the nation, I 1549 01:33:31,360 --> 01:33:37,080 Speaker 1: still have Oregon as the number one team in the pack. Twelve. Yeah, um, 1550 01:33:37,120 --> 01:33:40,240 Speaker 1: all right, close, Ralph, you were close to write on 1551 01:33:40,280 --> 01:33:45,720 Speaker 1: this one. Um. I have USC at six, so you 1552 01:33:45,960 --> 01:33:51,200 Speaker 1: so like twelve through And then I have Stanford at five. Bro, 1553 01:33:51,680 --> 01:33:56,040 Speaker 1: you were great from seven to twelve. Spot on, And 1554 01:33:56,080 --> 01:33:58,360 Speaker 1: I don't think that there's a whole lot of debate 1555 01:33:58,479 --> 01:34:01,280 Speaker 1: where where where people can even argue about it, because 1556 01:34:02,160 --> 01:34:06,120 Speaker 1: Arizona and Colorado those are you gonna argue about who's 1557 01:34:06,120 --> 01:34:09,720 Speaker 1: eleven or twelve? And then Cow's record has shown that 1558 01:34:09,800 --> 01:34:14,320 Speaker 1: they are tenth best. Washington's their inconsistency, their two in 1559 01:34:14,479 --> 01:34:18,320 Speaker 1: three right right now, Washington State when they've had Jaden 1560 01:34:18,400 --> 01:34:21,559 Speaker 1: Delora has been well and they've played in the second 1561 01:34:21,600 --> 01:34:26,720 Speaker 1: half of all five games, and Utah they just don't 1562 01:34:26,720 --> 01:34:32,040 Speaker 1: have a quarterback. USC has been a rocky road. Stanford 1563 01:34:32,200 --> 01:34:35,720 Speaker 1: who who the hell knows? But they beat USC, so 1564 01:34:35,760 --> 01:34:38,800 Speaker 1: they're above them. And then I have U c l 1565 01:34:38,840 --> 01:34:43,679 Speaker 1: A at four because they just lost to the team 1566 01:34:43,680 --> 01:34:47,320 Speaker 1: at three, who is Arizona State? And then I have 1567 01:34:47,479 --> 01:34:51,600 Speaker 1: Oregon State at two because they their dominance on the 1568 01:34:51,640 --> 01:34:55,840 Speaker 1: way that they're running the football is incredible. And Oregon 1569 01:34:55,960 --> 01:35:02,400 Speaker 1: and Oregon at one. So you have Oregon State above 1570 01:35:02,520 --> 01:35:06,840 Speaker 1: Arizona State because their dominance of running the football. Yeah, 1571 01:35:07,000 --> 01:35:10,559 Speaker 1: and and because like I think it's gonna be tougher 1572 01:35:10,640 --> 01:35:13,360 Speaker 1: for people to beat them, and they have put beat 1573 01:35:13,400 --> 01:35:17,479 Speaker 1: downs on people two Like, and I don't think, I 1574 01:35:17,479 --> 01:35:19,559 Speaker 1: don't know, you just saw this, but there's a three 1575 01:35:19,560 --> 01:35:22,639 Speaker 1: touchdown win over your number four team by your number 1576 01:35:22,680 --> 01:35:26,960 Speaker 1: three team. Meanwhile, Oregon State needed the last drive of 1577 01:35:27,000 --> 01:35:33,120 Speaker 1: the game to beat your number nine team at home. 1578 01:35:34,280 --> 01:35:35,840 Speaker 1: So I don't know what you're talking about dominating. I 1579 01:35:35,880 --> 01:35:37,479 Speaker 1: don't know what you're talking about running game either. How 1580 01:35:37,479 --> 01:35:40,160 Speaker 1: are you going to say that that Oregon States running 1581 01:35:40,160 --> 01:35:42,519 Speaker 1: games better than a s U s uh? It is 1582 01:35:44,240 --> 01:35:49,919 Speaker 1: by what metric? Okay, by by the metric of Oregon 1583 01:35:50,080 --> 01:35:55,120 Speaker 1: State is rushing for two hundred and twenty nine yards 1584 01:35:55,120 --> 01:35:59,880 Speaker 1: a game, Arizona States rushing for two oh four Okay, 1585 01:36:00,040 --> 01:36:07,640 Speaker 1: so that twenty some yards that that's the difference, Yeah, yeah, 1586 01:36:07,960 --> 01:36:12,840 Speaker 1: why not? And and Oregon State's only loss, right is 1587 01:36:12,840 --> 01:36:18,080 Speaker 1: when Chance Nolan wasn't their quarterback. Arizona States only lost 1588 01:36:18,200 --> 01:36:20,479 Speaker 1: is when they decided they wanted all the flags. I 1589 01:36:20,520 --> 01:36:23,920 Speaker 1: don't I don't listen listen to the number to the 1590 01:36:24,160 --> 01:36:26,160 Speaker 1: and I don't believe this is coming out of my 1591 01:36:26,200 --> 01:36:28,559 Speaker 1: mouth to the number ten team in the country. Why 1592 01:36:28,560 --> 01:36:32,759 Speaker 1: don't you look up? How produce doing? Right? Now? Bro? Listen, 1593 01:36:32,840 --> 01:36:37,240 Speaker 1: Chance Nolan was not their quarterback. So okay, alright, alright, 1594 01:36:37,240 --> 01:36:39,080 Speaker 1: I'll give you this. I'll give you this, twenty four 1595 01:36:39,120 --> 01:36:43,120 Speaker 1: more rushing yards a game. What about passing yards a game? 1596 01:36:43,160 --> 01:36:49,719 Speaker 1: Where we at oh where it's not um, okay, past yards. 1597 01:36:49,840 --> 01:36:52,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if you just saw that, if Jade 1598 01:36:52,080 --> 01:36:54,360 Speaker 1: Daniel would ever put up a sixty yard passing game, 1599 01:36:54,800 --> 01:36:59,000 Speaker 1: Oregon State is two oh seven, Arizona State is to 1600 01:36:59,280 --> 01:37:04,439 Speaker 1: thirty nine. Alright, thirty two more yards? All right? Right? 1601 01:37:04,479 --> 01:37:06,320 Speaker 1: And the and the difference is one of these teams 1602 01:37:06,360 --> 01:37:08,439 Speaker 1: lost to the number ten team. I can't say it 1603 01:37:08,439 --> 01:37:11,920 Speaker 1: with a straight face. It's funny. If you want you 1604 01:37:12,080 --> 01:37:16,360 Speaker 1: is not? Oh, they they have earned that to this 1605 01:37:16,520 --> 01:37:24,479 Speaker 1: to this point. All right. So now though there's they 1606 01:37:24,520 --> 01:37:30,720 Speaker 1: countdown on Nick Rolovich because on this vaccine situation. So 1607 01:37:30,800 --> 01:37:33,960 Speaker 1: Oregon State, I'm sorry, Washington State, who is playing well, 1608 01:37:34,160 --> 01:37:37,840 Speaker 1: they may lose their head coach. Do you think that 1609 01:37:37,880 --> 01:37:40,880 Speaker 1: he will get vaccinated or he will get fired or 1610 01:37:40,920 --> 01:37:44,880 Speaker 1: suspended or like, do you expect him to be coaching 1611 01:37:44,920 --> 01:37:52,320 Speaker 1: the team after next weekend? Um? So, Governor Insley would 1612 01:37:52,360 --> 01:37:56,479 Speaker 1: have to basically like instruct the university president to fire 1613 01:37:57,439 --> 01:38:02,640 Speaker 1: Nick Rolovich right like that. That would be um for 1614 01:38:02,720 --> 01:38:05,200 Speaker 1: missing the deadline. He is either going to have to 1615 01:38:05,240 --> 01:38:09,439 Speaker 1: take the Johnson and Johnson shot today, UM to be 1616 01:38:09,560 --> 01:38:13,599 Speaker 1: considered to be fully vaccinated two weeks from now if 1617 01:38:13,600 --> 01:38:18,600 Speaker 1: he hasn't already taken one shot of Fisera Maderna, or 1618 01:38:19,520 --> 01:38:21,280 Speaker 1: we're just gonna have to assume that maybe he got 1619 01:38:21,320 --> 01:38:23,600 Speaker 1: a religious exemption, because I'm assuming there's a process to 1620 01:38:23,640 --> 01:38:32,280 Speaker 1: apply for that. UM, I don't know if we're gonna know, Yeah, 1621 01:38:32,600 --> 01:38:35,639 Speaker 1: he's if Nick Rolovich says that he's going to fire 1622 01:38:35,640 --> 01:38:37,920 Speaker 1: them or that he's gonna follow the mandate, but what 1623 01:38:37,960 --> 01:38:40,800 Speaker 1: he means is he's going to call their bluff. Is 1624 01:38:40,840 --> 01:38:46,519 Speaker 1: that the same? Yes? Well, actually no, no, He's he's 1625 01:38:46,560 --> 01:38:52,160 Speaker 1: been vague on this intentionally, and there have been behind 1626 01:38:52,200 --> 01:38:56,960 Speaker 1: the scenes conversations Okay, so we're just not We're just 1627 01:38:57,000 --> 01:39:01,120 Speaker 1: not gonna know. We're not gonna know because if the 1628 01:39:01,200 --> 01:39:05,800 Speaker 1: application for the exemption goes beyond the date and it 1629 01:39:05,840 --> 01:39:08,280 Speaker 1: gets to not so that the application for the exemption 1630 01:39:08,280 --> 01:39:11,040 Speaker 1: would have had to be addressed by today, if he's 1631 01:39:11,080 --> 01:39:12,960 Speaker 1: going to be able to meet the deadline, and I 1632 01:39:13,000 --> 01:39:15,840 Speaker 1: doubt that there would be very many more priorities than 1633 01:39:15,880 --> 01:39:19,040 Speaker 1: for people to process an application for an exemption and 1634 01:39:19,080 --> 01:39:22,280 Speaker 1: adjudicate that whole process by the deadline that he would 1635 01:39:22,280 --> 01:39:24,000 Speaker 1: need to be to be vaccinated. If he's the highest 1636 01:39:24,000 --> 01:39:27,200 Speaker 1: paid state employee, I don't think he would get caught 1637 01:39:27,280 --> 01:39:29,600 Speaker 1: up in the bureaucracy. So if he is still the 1638 01:39:29,680 --> 01:39:31,519 Speaker 1: coach two weeks from now, then we are going to 1639 01:39:31,560 --> 01:39:35,880 Speaker 1: have to assume he got vaccinated. Yes, yeah, I would 1640 01:39:35,880 --> 01:39:37,960 Speaker 1: agree with that, or we have to assume he got 1641 01:39:38,000 --> 01:39:40,519 Speaker 1: an exemption. Either way, we have to assume. The only 1642 01:39:40,560 --> 01:39:42,120 Speaker 1: way we're gonna know if he didn't do what he 1643 01:39:42,160 --> 01:39:44,519 Speaker 1: was supposed to is if he gets fired. And if 1644 01:39:44,520 --> 01:39:48,120 Speaker 1: he gets fired, then you have to wonder if he's 1645 01:39:48,120 --> 01:39:51,000 Speaker 1: ever going to coach again. Yep. Yeah, it's gonna be hard, 1646 01:39:51,000 --> 01:39:53,400 Speaker 1: because it's gonna be hard to get hired anywhere at 1647 01:39:53,439 --> 01:39:59,080 Speaker 1: that point. Um. All right, so now the week six preview. 1648 01:40:00,200 --> 01:40:05,760 Speaker 1: This week we have some some more matchups that may 1649 01:40:05,800 --> 01:40:09,840 Speaker 1: destroy the conference in terms of you know, who is 1650 01:40:09,880 --> 01:40:13,400 Speaker 1: playing and who's not and who's winning and who goes 1651 01:40:13,439 --> 01:40:16,519 Speaker 1: to bowl games and all of that. But this week 1652 01:40:17,000 --> 01:40:26,639 Speaker 1: you have Oregon is off. Yeah, Oregon is off? Who else? 1653 01:40:26,760 --> 01:40:32,880 Speaker 1: Cal is off? Colorado is off and you taught nope, 1654 01:40:33,920 --> 01:40:41,160 Speaker 1: I don't always do that is playing. Yeah, So Oregon, Colorado, 1655 01:40:44,560 --> 01:40:52,559 Speaker 1: Cow Cow Can you get it? Can I get it? 1656 01:40:52,600 --> 01:40:57,439 Speaker 1: All right? Oh? And Washington, Yeah, and Washington are all 1657 01:40:57,479 --> 01:41:02,120 Speaker 1: off this this week, so that's good news for the conference. 1658 01:41:02,160 --> 01:41:05,000 Speaker 1: But the first game up is on Friday, Friday night games. 1659 01:41:05,000 --> 01:41:10,639 Speaker 1: We already talked about that we hate. Um Stanford at 1660 01:41:10,720 --> 01:41:15,280 Speaker 1: Arizona State on Friday night. Who you got, Ralph and 1661 01:41:15,400 --> 01:41:20,839 Speaker 1: we was to spread. So the Stanford spread might surprise 1662 01:41:20,920 --> 01:41:23,920 Speaker 1: some people because they obviously just beat the number three 1663 01:41:23,960 --> 01:41:26,960 Speaker 1: team in the country. Uh. And Arizona State had to 1664 01:41:26,960 --> 01:41:31,080 Speaker 1: play the late game with a short turn around. It's 1665 01:41:31,080 --> 01:41:36,280 Speaker 1: actually Arizona State minus eleven and a half. Give me Stanford, bro. 1666 01:41:36,479 --> 01:41:40,160 Speaker 1: I could not scream this louder from the mountaintops. All right, 1667 01:41:40,160 --> 01:41:44,160 Speaker 1: I'm assuming you like the the over uh fifty one 1668 01:41:44,160 --> 01:41:48,120 Speaker 1: and a half as well. Yes, I'm a little shaky 1669 01:41:48,160 --> 01:41:51,639 Speaker 1: on the over because sometimes weeknight games are just poorly 1670 01:41:51,720 --> 01:41:54,439 Speaker 1: executed night. But I want to remember the last time 1671 01:41:54,439 --> 01:41:56,640 Speaker 1: that a SU played Stanford on a Friday night and 1672 01:41:56,680 --> 01:42:00,479 Speaker 1: Manny Wilkins made some really terrible decisions to tie that 1673 01:42:00,520 --> 01:42:02,080 Speaker 1: game up late. I feel like that's a really little 1674 01:42:02,160 --> 01:42:08,120 Speaker 1: scoring mess. Um. However, I think that if Stanford's biggest 1675 01:42:08,120 --> 01:42:10,599 Speaker 1: weakness is being able to stop the run, and Arizona 1676 01:42:10,640 --> 01:42:14,160 Speaker 1: State doesn't have to worry about Bryson Tremaine, then this 1677 01:42:14,240 --> 01:42:16,240 Speaker 1: might be a recipe for a blowout. So I'm gonna 1678 01:42:16,240 --> 01:42:18,120 Speaker 1: go ahead and ride with a s U minus eleven 1679 01:42:18,120 --> 01:42:21,120 Speaker 1: and a half. I will also take the over. Mm hmm. 1680 01:42:22,400 --> 01:42:26,840 Speaker 1: That is That is ambitious, buddy, That is absolutely ambitious, 1681 01:42:26,880 --> 01:42:30,559 Speaker 1: and we we will see who's right. Um, all right 1682 01:42:30,640 --> 01:42:33,280 Speaker 1: the next Actually, so, how do you see this game 1683 01:42:33,320 --> 01:42:41,040 Speaker 1: playing playing out? Though? Um? I see I think I 1684 01:42:41,120 --> 01:42:44,800 Speaker 1: see Stanford trying to establish the run, which they're one 1685 01:42:44,840 --> 01:42:46,880 Speaker 1: of the worst running teams in the conference. They're only 1686 01:42:46,880 --> 01:42:50,640 Speaker 1: averaging like a hundred and seventeen points per game, but 1687 01:42:50,720 --> 01:42:52,559 Speaker 1: they gotta do it. They gotta do it or else 1688 01:42:52,800 --> 01:42:55,000 Speaker 1: or else he is, He's gonna gonna bring the noise. 1689 01:42:55,080 --> 01:42:58,760 Speaker 1: Antonio Pierce is gonna is gonna try to blitz the 1690 01:42:58,760 --> 01:43:00,920 Speaker 1: hell out of Tanner mrikey. Just because that that hasn't 1691 01:43:00,960 --> 01:43:04,880 Speaker 1: happened yet. I don't feel like anybody's tried to really 1692 01:43:04,920 --> 01:43:06,960 Speaker 1: get after Tanner McKee to see what he's made of, 1693 01:43:07,080 --> 01:43:11,880 Speaker 1: like really get after him. Um. Yeah, I don't know. 1694 01:43:11,960 --> 01:43:14,240 Speaker 1: Arizona State it's an interesting team, though, George, because how 1695 01:43:14,240 --> 01:43:17,160 Speaker 1: many times have this year have they buckled down in 1696 01:43:17,200 --> 01:43:21,200 Speaker 1: the second half shut everyone down? Yeah? Yeah, they they 1697 01:43:21,240 --> 01:43:25,080 Speaker 1: definitely have. And Stanford got obliterated in the second half 1698 01:43:25,720 --> 01:43:28,719 Speaker 1: against Oregon, so you have to wonder if that's even 1699 01:43:28,840 --> 01:43:32,320 Speaker 1: you know, like, I don't know about this Stanford offense. 1700 01:43:32,520 --> 01:43:35,519 Speaker 1: I think that they are that they don't get called 1701 01:43:35,640 --> 01:43:38,360 Speaker 1: enough for o p I heat on those jump balls, 1702 01:43:38,800 --> 01:43:42,559 Speaker 1: but you know, that's it's like the annexation of Puerto Rico. 1703 01:43:44,479 --> 01:43:46,240 Speaker 1: There were a couple of games this year where I 1704 01:43:46,280 --> 01:43:48,160 Speaker 1: was like, oh man, without Bryson Tremaine, they'd be in 1705 01:43:48,240 --> 01:43:52,439 Speaker 1: deep ship. And now I don't I don't think you 1706 01:43:52,479 --> 01:43:56,800 Speaker 1: can fix somebody's foot falling off. I forgot about I 1707 01:43:56,920 --> 01:44:01,040 Speaker 1: forgot about that, dude. I forgot about bryceon Church for May. 1708 01:44:01,280 --> 01:44:04,479 Speaker 1: Never mind, I'm going to take Arizona State. Oh you're 1709 01:44:04,479 --> 01:44:08,040 Speaker 1: flipping your pick. Yes, I'm flipping my pick. You you 1710 01:44:08,160 --> 01:44:11,559 Speaker 1: just gave me the secret sauce buddy. Now, I don't 1711 01:44:11,560 --> 01:44:13,240 Speaker 1: think we have a single difference in any of our 1712 01:44:13,320 --> 01:44:18,040 Speaker 1: picks this week. Or we're a ride together, die together, alright, 1713 01:44:18,320 --> 01:44:21,439 Speaker 1: bad boys for life, all right? The next game up 1714 01:44:21,479 --> 01:44:27,679 Speaker 1: is on Saturday, Oregon State at Washington State in Polman. 1715 01:44:27,760 --> 01:44:31,120 Speaker 1: Oregon State only favored by three and a half, which 1716 01:44:31,120 --> 01:44:32,599 Speaker 1: if you get you know, so if you figure it's 1717 01:44:32,640 --> 01:44:36,559 Speaker 1: the three point hometown bump, then they'd figure maybe Oregon 1718 01:44:36,640 --> 01:44:38,880 Speaker 1: States a touchdown favorite. So three and a half. I 1719 01:44:38,880 --> 01:44:40,880 Speaker 1: expect a bunch of money to be in Oregon State 1720 01:44:40,920 --> 01:44:43,519 Speaker 1: after what they did to Washington But we'll see, uh 1721 01:44:43,520 --> 01:44:48,880 Speaker 1: and then over under fifty nine, all right, give me 1722 01:44:49,000 --> 01:44:59,040 Speaker 1: Oregon State and give me the under same disease. Yeah, 1723 01:44:59,120 --> 01:45:01,839 Speaker 1: I'm like, I think they're gonna run the run the football. 1724 01:45:01,920 --> 01:45:05,040 Speaker 1: The game is gonna be short. Washington States defense is 1725 01:45:05,080 --> 01:45:09,160 Speaker 1: pretty good, um, but their offense doesn't seem to be. 1726 01:45:09,400 --> 01:45:14,439 Speaker 1: I mean like they're gonna have some turnovers. And Oregon 1727 01:45:14,560 --> 01:45:17,200 Speaker 1: State will be able to capitalize on some of those 1728 01:45:17,360 --> 01:45:20,200 Speaker 1: which will you know, but then won't score and all 1729 01:45:20,200 --> 01:45:24,160 Speaker 1: of that. So give me Oregon State. Yeah, and that 1730 01:45:24,360 --> 01:45:30,840 Speaker 1: under as well. All right, Next up, we've got the 1731 01:45:30,840 --> 01:45:35,599 Speaker 1: the the uh, the immovable object versus the unstoppable force 1732 01:45:36,360 --> 01:45:39,679 Speaker 1: UM which I guess the the the immovable object would 1733 01:45:39,720 --> 01:45:45,559 Speaker 1: be Utah's inability to um when in Los Angeles, and 1734 01:45:45,600 --> 01:45:51,000 Speaker 1: the unstoppable force would be USC's determination to underplay their talent. 1735 01:45:54,240 --> 01:45:57,040 Speaker 1: They are good at that. Yeah, we got USC favored 1736 01:45:57,040 --> 01:46:01,160 Speaker 1: by three points at home, which, oh my god, it's 1737 01:46:01,360 --> 01:46:03,559 Speaker 1: a shame. And the over under is fifty two and 1738 01:46:03,560 --> 01:46:15,880 Speaker 1: a half. M give me give me USC only because 1739 01:46:16,040 --> 01:46:21,760 Speaker 1: USC to cover plus the over in this game, because 1740 01:46:23,080 --> 01:46:27,880 Speaker 1: USC they are like, they're gonna be able to score 1741 01:46:27,960 --> 01:46:30,639 Speaker 1: some points even though Utah is gonna make this a 1742 01:46:30,680 --> 01:46:35,600 Speaker 1: dog fight. But utah Is running game is just okay. 1743 01:46:36,160 --> 01:46:40,320 Speaker 1: They're uh, they're And they don't pass the ball at 1744 01:46:40,320 --> 01:46:43,760 Speaker 1: a high level either, so that gives me pause, and 1745 01:46:43,800 --> 01:46:47,000 Speaker 1: I don't think they can score enough points to beat them. 1746 01:46:47,160 --> 01:46:49,839 Speaker 1: Utah is the second worst passing team in the conference. 1747 01:46:49,840 --> 01:46:55,360 Speaker 1: They're averaging two hundred passing yards per game, where oh damn, 1748 01:46:55,400 --> 01:46:59,720 Speaker 1: Colorado is averaging under a hundred passing yards per game, like, right, 1749 01:47:00,000 --> 01:47:04,400 Speaker 1: at a hundred? Basically, is that bad? Is that bad? Yeah? 1750 01:47:04,800 --> 01:47:08,720 Speaker 1: Especially when your past defense is bad too. Um, but 1751 01:47:09,720 --> 01:47:15,200 Speaker 1: you have USC, which is clearly the best past offense 1752 01:47:15,280 --> 01:47:24,040 Speaker 1: in the in the conference. But I'm gonna go with oh. 1753 01:47:24,120 --> 01:47:28,280 Speaker 1: And then Utah in terms of running the football, they 1754 01:47:28,400 --> 01:47:32,200 Speaker 1: are at a hundred there, eighth in the conference at 1755 01:47:32,200 --> 01:47:36,160 Speaker 1: a buck sixty five a game, which is okay, it's 1756 01:47:36,200 --> 01:47:42,040 Speaker 1: not near the top, it's okay. So yeah uh so 1757 01:47:42,080 --> 01:47:45,920 Speaker 1: that wait, no, no, no, the that that was total 1758 01:47:46,040 --> 01:47:50,760 Speaker 1: or rushing yards they are, um, but they've only played 1759 01:47:50,800 --> 01:47:55,639 Speaker 1: four games, so they are fourth in the conference and no, sorry, 1760 01:47:55,640 --> 01:47:58,599 Speaker 1: fifth in the conference in yards per game rush yards 1761 01:47:58,600 --> 01:48:02,479 Speaker 1: per game. Okay, well, uh, to me, it doesn't matter 1762 01:48:02,479 --> 01:48:05,040 Speaker 1: because since joining the Pac twelve, the thing that Utah 1763 01:48:05,080 --> 01:48:07,720 Speaker 1: has struggled with the most is figuring out the air raid. 1764 01:48:07,760 --> 01:48:10,400 Speaker 1: They're very inconsistent with it from year to year. Uh. 1765 01:48:10,479 --> 01:48:13,559 Speaker 1: They also are terrible in Los Angeles. But then you 1766 01:48:13,600 --> 01:48:16,559 Speaker 1: have to factor in the fact that USC's consistency is 1767 01:48:16,600 --> 01:48:20,320 Speaker 1: non existent and Kyle Whittingham has had two weeks to 1768 01:48:20,320 --> 01:48:22,599 Speaker 1: prepare for this game. So I think it'll be close. 1769 01:48:22,640 --> 01:48:25,160 Speaker 1: I think that I like that they set the spread, 1770 01:48:25,360 --> 01:48:27,400 Speaker 1: um right right where they did. But I do think 1771 01:48:27,439 --> 01:48:29,160 Speaker 1: most of the money is gonna be on USC, and 1772 01:48:29,200 --> 01:48:31,519 Speaker 1: I'm with you. I will take USC minus three and 1773 01:48:31,600 --> 01:48:35,920 Speaker 1: the over. Mm hmm. That's not bad, bro, That is 1774 01:48:35,960 --> 01:48:40,639 Speaker 1: not bad at all. Um, all right, and the last 1775 01:48:40,760 --> 01:48:44,080 Speaker 1: game up, we have U c l A at Arizona. 1776 01:48:44,160 --> 01:48:46,880 Speaker 1: What's the line on this game? The line on this 1777 01:48:46,920 --> 01:48:49,360 Speaker 1: game is U c l A minus sixteen. I think 1778 01:48:49,360 --> 01:48:51,240 Speaker 1: it might have started at seventeen and a half and 1779 01:48:51,240 --> 01:48:57,640 Speaker 1: the over under sixty one. Mm hmm. Give me U 1780 01:48:57,680 --> 01:49:00,000 Speaker 1: c l A. Because Arizona is gonna throw in her 1781 01:49:00,000 --> 01:49:03,360 Speaker 1: sceptions even though U c l A is the third 1782 01:49:03,360 --> 01:49:06,720 Speaker 1: worst past defense in the country, averaging giving up over 1783 01:49:06,760 --> 01:49:12,479 Speaker 1: three past yards a game. Um. Yeah, but Arizona just 1784 01:49:12,520 --> 01:49:14,800 Speaker 1: can't get right right now, even though they just came 1785 01:49:14,840 --> 01:49:18,080 Speaker 1: off of an off week. They should be better technically. 1786 01:49:18,479 --> 01:49:20,519 Speaker 1: But yeah, give me U c l A and give 1787 01:49:20,520 --> 01:49:24,120 Speaker 1: me the over. I am going to take the under 1788 01:49:24,280 --> 01:49:26,640 Speaker 1: because I do not think that University of Arizona. I 1789 01:49:26,680 --> 01:49:28,920 Speaker 1: still I don't know what it is, but I've actually 1790 01:49:28,920 --> 01:49:30,479 Speaker 1: listened to a couple of people talk about this game, 1791 01:49:30,520 --> 01:49:32,400 Speaker 1: and there's actually a few people that are saying Arizona 1792 01:49:32,439 --> 01:49:35,639 Speaker 1: is gonna cover or maybe even win. No, they're not. 1793 01:49:35,760 --> 01:49:39,160 Speaker 1: They're not good. They're not good upfront offensively, they're not 1794 01:49:39,200 --> 01:49:44,560 Speaker 1: good upfront defensively, They're barely average in the secondary. They 1795 01:49:44,960 --> 01:49:47,920 Speaker 1: don't have all of their receiving threats back, they can't 1796 01:49:48,000 --> 01:49:50,360 Speaker 1: run the ball, and they turn the ball over on offense. 1797 01:49:50,960 --> 01:49:54,040 Speaker 1: Even if they improve, they'll go from being putrid to bad. 1798 01:49:54,400 --> 01:49:56,760 Speaker 1: There's no way. So I'm rolling with U. C. L A. 1799 01:49:57,080 --> 01:50:00,200 Speaker 1: But I don't like the over because I don't don't 1800 01:50:00,200 --> 01:50:02,280 Speaker 1: think Arizona is gonna score a whole bunch of points. 1801 01:50:03,320 --> 01:50:07,840 Speaker 1: M hm m m all right, that's reasonable. All right, Well, 1802 01:50:07,880 --> 01:50:10,840 Speaker 1: those are depicts for the week, and the last thing 1803 01:50:10,840 --> 01:50:14,400 Speaker 1: that we have up is the USC Survivor series at 1804 01:50:14,479 --> 01:50:20,800 Speaker 1: courter at for head coach, Um we have already eliminated 1805 01:50:20,920 --> 01:50:23,120 Speaker 1: And if you guys go to Unafraid show dot com, 1806 01:50:23,200 --> 01:50:27,280 Speaker 1: Ralph road to Night's article about who is in contention 1807 01:50:27,960 --> 01:50:34,280 Speaker 1: for for this and uh, we have already eliminated Dante Williams, 1808 01:50:34,320 --> 01:50:42,120 Speaker 1: their current interim head coach, Mario Christo Ball. We eliminated p. J. 1809 01:50:42,400 --> 01:50:48,080 Speaker 1: Fleck last week right, yeah, uh is late, and so 1810 01:50:48,439 --> 01:50:52,920 Speaker 1: right now we still have oh uh, we we still 1811 01:50:53,000 --> 01:51:01,640 Speaker 1: have um James Franklin from Penn State, Oh, Brady Carolina 1812 01:51:01,680 --> 01:51:08,000 Speaker 1: Panthers o C, Lane Kiffin, Luke Fickle from Cincinnati, Billy 1813 01:51:08,120 --> 01:51:15,720 Speaker 1: Napier from Louisiana, Chris Peterson, Bob Stoops, Matt Campbell from 1814 01:51:15,760 --> 01:51:18,680 Speaker 1: Iowa State. But I think we can eliminated should we 1815 01:51:18,680 --> 01:51:22,360 Speaker 1: eliminate my Matt Campbell because that or do you think 1816 01:51:22,439 --> 01:51:25,000 Speaker 1: that that? People would would say, well, it's just because 1817 01:51:25,000 --> 01:51:29,320 Speaker 1: of the situation. I know, I think I I would 1818 01:51:29,320 --> 01:51:31,080 Speaker 1: eliminate Matt Campbell just because I think he's gonna be 1819 01:51:31,080 --> 01:51:35,599 Speaker 1: at Iowa State for the next fifteen years. But um uh, 1820 01:51:35,800 --> 01:51:39,320 Speaker 1: they they won big this last weekend. You know, I 1821 01:51:39,320 --> 01:51:43,280 Speaker 1: don't think anybody'd be overly excited. But I wouldn't. I wouldn't. 1822 01:51:44,240 --> 01:51:46,160 Speaker 1: I would think that Iowa State's gonna lock him up 1823 01:51:46,160 --> 01:51:49,120 Speaker 1: for a long time. He's perfect for them. Okay, Uh. 1824 01:51:49,560 --> 01:51:53,240 Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien, Alabama o C is still on there, and 1825 01:51:53,360 --> 01:51:57,400 Speaker 1: so is Tony Oh nope, but we eliminated Tony Elliott 1826 01:51:57,400 --> 01:52:01,160 Speaker 1: Clemson's o C because it weird to get fired. And 1827 01:52:01,200 --> 01:52:03,840 Speaker 1: then why you know they did hire. They did do 1828 01:52:03,920 --> 01:52:07,320 Speaker 1: that with Cliff Kingsbury, So I don't know. Yeah, I 1829 01:52:07,360 --> 01:52:09,040 Speaker 1: mean it would be like hiring the guy who's in 1830 01:52:09,080 --> 01:52:11,640 Speaker 1: charge of making sure there's no oil spills on the 1831 01:52:11,680 --> 01:52:15,720 Speaker 1: West coast, but there's oil spills. Like you're not the 1832 01:52:15,760 --> 01:52:19,320 Speaker 1: one thing that you you're one job and Clemson is 1833 01:52:19,320 --> 01:52:22,120 Speaker 1: not scoring. So yeah, I don't feel like and I 1834 01:52:22,160 --> 01:52:24,360 Speaker 1: think we have to put Marcus Freeman on there to 1835 01:52:24,600 --> 01:52:28,200 Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator from Notre Dame who was at Cincinnati 1836 01:52:28,280 --> 01:52:32,840 Speaker 1: as well. All right, um, yeah, so oh and urban 1837 01:52:32,880 --> 01:52:35,080 Speaker 1: Meyer he was still on the list. Can we can 1838 01:52:35,080 --> 01:52:39,680 Speaker 1: we take urban Meyer off the list? Now? Yes, we 1839 01:52:39,720 --> 01:52:42,080 Speaker 1: can't take urban Meyer off the list. Yes, Harold Foult 1840 01:52:42,160 --> 01:52:44,479 Speaker 1: wasn't gonna hire him already. She's damn sure not gonna 1841 01:52:44,520 --> 01:52:50,080 Speaker 1: hire him now, right, why would he do exactly? All right, well, 1842 01:52:50,320 --> 01:52:52,840 Speaker 1: you guys, he can't can't quite put my finger on 1843 01:52:52,840 --> 01:52:55,840 Speaker 1: what he said that. Oh you you can't put your 1844 01:52:55,840 --> 01:52:59,280 Speaker 1: finger on it? All right? Now? All right, you you guys, 1845 01:52:59,320 --> 01:53:02,120 Speaker 1: this is the Pack twelve Apostles. I'm George Ricer, He's 1846 01:53:02,240 --> 01:53:04,479 Speaker 1: Ralph Amerston. Peace out, catch you guys later.