WEBVTT - Draft Show: LIVE @ 2019 NFL Combine - Day 3 0:00:01.960 --> 0:00:06.359 This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft show. Cowboys 0:00:06.640 --> 0:00:10.240 on there war room for in center news and draft analysis, 0:00:10.400 --> 0:00:15.160 Dallas Cowboys select a, Zigio Elliott and now your hosts 0:00:15.440 --> 0:00:20.320 Dane Brugler, David Hellman, and Brian brought us. Well. Welcome 0:00:20.360 --> 0:00:24.800 to day three of the two thousand and nineteen NFL Combine. 0:00:25.880 --> 0:00:28.360 As the Big Boys Guy said, it's Brian brought us 0:00:28.360 --> 0:00:32.720 along with David Hellman, will be joined shortly by Dane Brugler, 0:00:32.880 --> 0:00:35.280 who had an assignment that he had to take care of. 0:00:35.400 --> 0:00:38.200 So well, this is the perfect illustration of the NFL 0:00:38.280 --> 0:00:42.120 combine because you got about nineteen things pulling you in 0:00:42.200 --> 0:00:46.720 nineteen different directions, and Dane, Dane's out handling one thing 0:00:46.720 --> 0:00:48.840 and then another thing pops up. One minute you're trying 0:00:48.840 --> 0:00:50.920 to grab a quick bite, and the next minute, Jason 0:00:50.920 --> 0:00:53.480 Witten's back on the team. Exactly just that kind of week, 0:00:53.520 --> 0:00:55.520 you know. That's what the that's the fun thing about 0:00:55.560 --> 0:00:59.040 the combine that that you have so many things that 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:02.600 going on on, and it's what makes things so interesting 0:01:02.600 --> 0:01:04.640 about the combine. Were like all you can see is 0:01:04.680 --> 0:01:07.560 our backdrop here, but like we're three feet away from 0:01:07.680 --> 0:01:12.560 CBS Sports there's nineteen other teams doing podcasts the bench press. 0:01:12.920 --> 0:01:14.760 They're not doing it now, but during the course of 0:01:14.800 --> 0:01:17.280 the day they're doing the bench press about fifty feet away. 0:01:17.360 --> 0:01:19.600 About fifty feet further away than that is where they 0:01:19.640 --> 0:01:23.560 do the interviews, and it's usually all happening, happening simultaneously. Yeah, 0:01:23.600 --> 0:01:26.360 you get it. It's hectic experience. It's a lot. It's 0:01:26.400 --> 0:01:29.120 actually a lot of fun. Best the way it's the 0:01:29.160 --> 0:01:31.119 way it's all set up, and we've we've talked about 0:01:31.160 --> 0:01:36.880 that is a bunch and but today we finally got 0:01:36.880 --> 0:01:38.840 to see some workout. It feel like it was a 0:01:38.880 --> 0:01:41.480 long wait this you know, you were talking about that earlier. 0:01:41.480 --> 0:01:43.560 You're talking about that at dinner one night, and I 0:01:43.600 --> 0:01:45.399 was kind of thinking, no, this is kind of what 0:01:45.440 --> 0:01:47.800 we normally do. It feels like we've been here for 0:01:47.840 --> 0:01:50.120 a year and we just now got to see guys 0:01:50.160 --> 0:01:53.680 work out well. Today, Like David was talking about the 0:01:53.880 --> 0:01:57.480 we had the offensive linemen and then also the running backs, 0:01:57.520 --> 0:02:01.240 which is a unique combination because usually you're in a 0:02:01.320 --> 0:02:05.200 situation where, uh, you know, like back in the day, 0:02:05.760 --> 0:02:08.960 it was always just the offensive lineman, and now this 0:02:09.080 --> 0:02:11.560 is she goes shows you what the influence of TV. 0:02:12.040 --> 0:02:17.320 Oh my gosh, has on the Combine because tomorrow you 0:02:17.400 --> 0:02:23.840 get wide receivers and quarterbacks on Saturday on exactly so anyway, 0:02:23.880 --> 0:02:27.200 but yeah, that's so we'll we'll get to that part 0:02:27.200 --> 0:02:30.120 of it though, But uh, I do want to focus 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:32.960 in on and we welcome in Dane Brugler. Appreciate you 0:02:33.000 --> 0:02:36.919 always well. But David and I were talking about though, uh, 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:39.040 you know, the things, the layout, the way things are 0:02:39.080 --> 0:02:43.200 at the Combine, But we're talking about today being the 0:02:43.240 --> 0:02:46.120 first day that we actually physically got to see workouts, 0:02:46.520 --> 0:02:49.440 and and it's nice to have you on today as 0:02:49.440 --> 0:02:53.519 always because you were in the stadium right you got 0:02:53.520 --> 0:02:57.640 to the opportunity to go in and watch the offensive 0:02:57.720 --> 0:03:01.440 lineman Um participate paid in drills go through. You know, 0:03:01.480 --> 0:03:03.640 I was here kind of manning the TV screen in 0:03:03.639 --> 0:03:05.880 front of me and kind of keeping all the numbers. 0:03:05.919 --> 0:03:08.720 But uh, you know, I'm I'm sure we can all 0:03:08.720 --> 0:03:13.520 get into what we saw today and your impressions. You know, 0:03:13.600 --> 0:03:17.799 you getting to see really the live look were as 0:03:17.840 --> 0:03:20.680 a group. Was it what you thought it was with 0:03:20.919 --> 0:03:24.840 all these offensive tackles, with these centers, you know, the 0:03:24.960 --> 0:03:27.280 running backs? I mean, was it what you thought it 0:03:27.360 --> 0:03:29.519 was going to be today once you saw these guys live, 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:32.880 Like most positions, some guys were exactly what you thought, 0:03:33.000 --> 0:03:37.240 others disappointing, others were maybe a little better. And you know, 0:03:37.360 --> 0:03:39.280 it's it's still beneficial when you get to see these 0:03:39.280 --> 0:03:41.880 guys live. Yeah, they just the way they move, you know, 0:03:41.920 --> 0:03:45.040 it's just a little different compared to the tape. And 0:03:45.040 --> 0:03:48.600 Andre Dillard and he was as advertised, he was moving 0:03:48.600 --> 0:03:52.040 differently in the state offensive tackleing. Um just yeah, the 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:56.560 pitter patter of the feet, the hips, the balance, really impressivement. 0:03:56.720 --> 0:03:58.680 I'm not just talking about forty yard dash. I'm talking 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:03.160 the positional drills, pulling stuff, the mirror drills. The movements 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:06.080 were really impressive. And if you tell me, you know, 0:04:06.680 --> 0:04:08.720 fast forward to the draft, you told me Andre Delos 0:04:08.760 --> 0:04:11.160 top ten, I wouldn't be shocked at all. Yeah, see 0:04:11.200 --> 0:04:14.560 I kind of had yeah, wow, hey, you're a left 0:04:14.560 --> 0:04:16.520 tackle with those feet. I mean, we've been talking about 0:04:16.560 --> 0:04:18.200 him as one of the better tackles in this class 0:04:18.360 --> 0:04:21.159 the whole time, but that is that's some high praise. 0:04:21.240 --> 0:04:23.640 You know. I thought it was really kind of borderline 0:04:23.720 --> 0:04:27.400 for me of him being a first round player or 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:30.280 you know, right in that you know, maybe that maybe 0:04:30.320 --> 0:04:33.039 the back end, maybe the front end. But I think 0:04:33.080 --> 0:04:37.479 now teams are going to look at him and the footwork. 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:41.440 As you said, Dane matches how the tape is of him. 0:04:41.680 --> 0:04:44.719 He's he plays on his feet, he's not on the ground, 0:04:45.120 --> 0:04:49.840 he's in control. He looks completely comfortable and anything they 0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:52.279 were asking him to do. And again, like Dane says, 0:04:52.560 --> 0:04:54.440 it's not about with the forty time with him, because 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:57.159 the forty time was outstanding. But you know, I think 0:04:57.200 --> 0:05:01.880 you have to talk about him with the other tackles 0:05:01.920 --> 0:05:04.640 in this draft that the top tackles and drafting, like 0:05:04.680 --> 0:05:07.200 Dane says, a little rich for me. If he goes 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:09.680 top ten. You said you wouldn't be surprised. Yeah, I'm 0:05:09.720 --> 0:05:12.200 not saying he will, but would be. But because there's 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:14.520 you know, let me tell you what the the Taylor 0:05:14.600 --> 0:05:16.760 kid had a really nicer one Taylor. Yeah, and he's 0:05:16.760 --> 0:05:19.040 not one hundred percent. Yeah, you know, he's still working 0:05:19.080 --> 0:05:23.600 with the hamstring, can't remember what the I see what 0:05:24.240 --> 0:05:27.960 what what's impressive about him and Williams from Alabama to 0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:31.680 me was when you look at them both that they 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:33.760 you know, you talk about guys that play left handed 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:36.640 stance and then when they asked him to switch and 0:05:36.720 --> 0:05:39.200 put the right hand on the ground and then try 0:05:39.240 --> 0:05:42.000 and do drills and stuff, it was comfortable. It wasn't 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:44.560 one of those things like, Okay, he looks he's clearly 0:05:44.640 --> 0:05:47.760 has to be a left tackle or he clearly has 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:52.000 to be a right tackle. David Hellman. Yeah, which I mean, 0:05:53.279 --> 0:05:55.600 I'm thinking about it as a as a whole and 0:05:55.720 --> 0:06:00.000 talk about this offensive line class, especially the tackle class. 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:02.840 Tackle is what I'm looking at. Is I feel like 0:06:03.480 --> 0:06:06.120 I'm interested to hear y'all talking so glowingly because I 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:07.960 don't want to say it was weak, but I feel 0:06:08.000 --> 0:06:11.400 like y'all weren't always this sould on these guys offensive tackles. Yeah, 0:06:11.160 --> 0:06:13.640 I think that's fair because I mean at the beginning 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:16.200 of the process, like when you talk about the strongest 0:06:16.200 --> 0:06:19.440 position in this draft defensive line, and we didn't mention 0:06:19.480 --> 0:06:21.680 tackle as much. But I think it became pretty clear, 0:06:21.680 --> 0:06:24.000 like after you watched Jawan Taylor from Florida, who we 0:06:24.040 --> 0:06:26.040 didn't necessarily know it was coming out as a junior. Yeah, 0:06:26.040 --> 0:06:27.760 you know, we knew I joined Williams, but you know, 0:06:27.800 --> 0:06:31.000 once you really fully understood Dillard was a top guy, 0:06:31.080 --> 0:06:34.640 you know, for little I mean to hear you and again, 0:06:34.800 --> 0:06:37.680 we've talked about Dillard plenty, and I would have said 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:39.560 even before we got here, I would have said he's 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:42.280 probably a first round pick. To hear you say top 0:06:42.320 --> 0:06:46.160 ten though, get like, my impression at least of this 0:06:46.320 --> 0:06:48.839 of this group is like, yeah, there's some good players here. 0:06:49.120 --> 0:06:51.680 But I mean, you know, Laramy Tunsel was your top 0:06:51.680 --> 0:06:54.960 graded guy in an entire draft. Like not talking about 0:06:54.960 --> 0:06:57.440 that guy that kind of blows you away from the 0:06:57.480 --> 0:07:00.960 get at least until now. And that's fair. And it's 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:03.680 just these tackles are going to be so different for everybody. 0:07:03.839 --> 0:07:06.480 If if if a team's told you that Diller was 0:07:06.520 --> 0:07:09.520 our top tackle, I don't know, that wouldn't surprise me. No, 0:07:09.800 --> 0:07:13.120 But another team might have him forth behind Taylor and 0:07:13.200 --> 0:07:16.679 Ford and Williams. You know, Yeah, it's gonna be different 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:19.840 for everybody. But um, you know, I don't think he's 0:07:19.840 --> 0:07:21.920 gonna be around for those like the Texans sitting at 0:07:21.960 --> 0:07:24.120 twenty three. I don't think he's gonna be around like 0:07:24.160 --> 0:07:26.360 we might have thought at the Senior Bowl. And you know, 0:07:26.360 --> 0:07:27.840 I give Diller to a lot of credit at the 0:07:27.880 --> 0:07:29.520 Senior Bowl you know, the first time he ever put 0:07:29.520 --> 0:07:31.400 his hand on the ground. Yeah, you know, like he's 0:07:31.720 --> 0:07:33.880 you know, and just in terms of your movement from 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:36.400 that stance and everything, he's improved a lot just from 0:07:36.400 --> 0:07:38.920 the end of the season. Yeah, I just you know, 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:40.960 it's funny that you said that, because I felt like 0:07:41.040 --> 0:07:43.400 that we I felt like we had a handle on 0:07:43.480 --> 0:07:45.920 the tackles, you know, I felt like that we had 0:07:46.040 --> 0:07:48.880 talked about that there's gonna be well. I I kind 0:07:48.920 --> 0:07:51.120 of thought though, and again I wrote about this when 0:07:51.120 --> 0:07:54.480 we first got here, was that Taylor from Florida and 0:07:54.640 --> 0:07:57.720 Williams from Alabama. There were people telling me when I 0:07:57.760 --> 0:08:00.920 was asking questions about they were and then I did. 0:08:01.040 --> 0:08:03.560 I did a spot with the Giants today, you know, 0:08:03.720 --> 0:08:06.280 and and their group, and thank you very much Giants 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:07.520 for having me over there. It was really a lot 0:08:07.520 --> 0:08:10.080 of fun over there to work with them. But there 0:08:10.120 --> 0:08:13.480 they were there there. Everybody that they had interviewed was 0:08:13.520 --> 0:08:18.800 talking Taylor over Williams as well. So you know, maybe 0:08:18.880 --> 0:08:21.760 this is something that uh, again, we always talk about 0:08:21.800 --> 0:08:24.880 the draft scouts, you know, the media scouts and the 0:08:25.000 --> 0:08:27.440 draft scouts. You know, I like to think that you're 0:08:27.520 --> 0:08:29.960 kind of dealing with scouts here, you know, dealing with 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:32.199 scouts guys that have done this, so you know when 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:34.360 the media scouts and then they kind of catch up 0:08:34.400 --> 0:08:40.000 with with really what's going on there. So okay, the tackles, uh, 0:08:40.360 --> 0:08:43.920 sinners shine today a little bit, right, and then Garrett 0:08:43.960 --> 0:08:46.880 Bradberry especially and I wrote about this today and my 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:51.000 right there. Yeah, impressive day for Garrett Bradberry. Yeah, the 0:08:51.080 --> 0:08:54.160 two most impressive guys I saw today were Dillard and Bradbury. 0:08:54.280 --> 0:08:57.080 Bradbury he started the week strong, thirty four reps on 0:08:57.080 --> 0:09:00.760 the bench over there, and then he finished strong the morning. Uh, 0:09:01.160 --> 0:09:04.720 really really impressive with his movement skills. Uh, just his 0:09:04.800 --> 0:09:08.240 hip action, his body control on the move. Just overall. 0:09:08.280 --> 0:09:10.520 He's a plug, especially for his zone teams. He's a 0:09:10.559 --> 0:09:13.360 plug in play center. Um. You know, if if you're 0:09:13.400 --> 0:09:15.360 a zone team and the teens and you need a center, 0:09:16.040 --> 0:09:18.319 plug Garrett Bradbury and you have a starter for the 0:09:18.360 --> 0:09:20.640 foreseeable future and you're doing just fine at that position. 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:24.680 And he comparisons to maybe like Kelsey l Philadelphia, that 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:27.800 makes sense. I think that I think a lighter guy, 0:09:28.040 --> 0:09:31.040 lighter guy. But the initially if he's uncovered, he's like 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:33.640 he's out there, he's on the edge, he's second level. 0:09:33.880 --> 0:09:37.640 He can. I love watching you pantomime this stuff like this, 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:43.640 ye Berry, that's a grabbed turn and you know, and 0:09:43.640 --> 0:09:46.880 that's that's Bradbury because yeah, he pinning pool or yeah, exactly, 0:09:46.920 --> 0:09:51.120 there you go, ceiling combination. He can do all that 0:09:51.200 --> 0:09:53.720 and uh, you know it's something that but the tape 0:09:53.760 --> 0:09:55.400 showed that too. It did. And then all of a 0:09:55.440 --> 0:09:57.880 sudden you chew up at the combine, Dave, and here's 0:09:57.880 --> 0:09:59.760 the guy actually doing that, you know, I mean, doing 0:09:59.800 --> 0:10:02.040 all the things that Dane was talking about. I love 0:10:02.160 --> 0:10:05.240 the and I'm not saying I feel this way, but 0:10:05.320 --> 0:10:08.319 you know, the honestly tired cliche of like the underwear 0:10:08.400 --> 0:10:10.640 Olympics and yeah, like obviously like the tape is so 0:10:10.720 --> 0:10:13.720 much more important. But to I mean to y'all, to 0:10:13.720 --> 0:10:15.559 see him to be able to do this stuff and 0:10:15.559 --> 0:10:20.280 and have that lateral you know, I have the agility, ability, athleticism, um, 0:10:20.320 --> 0:10:22.320 and to see it in person, Yeah, I'm jealous that 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:24.520 you got to go over there today. I'm glad. I'm 0:10:24.520 --> 0:10:27.000 glad you did. It was helpful, Yeah, sure, but to 0:10:27.160 --> 0:10:29.400 see but to see that translate and not you know, 0:10:30.160 --> 0:10:32.840 be able to show off that athleticism outside of you know, 0:10:32.880 --> 0:10:35.960 the scheme of of of football. I think it's not 0:10:36.000 --> 0:10:38.480 as important as tape, but it is. It's worthwhile. It's 0:10:38.520 --> 0:10:41.680 part of the puzzle for our for our buddy Rob Phillips, 0:10:41.800 --> 0:10:43.840 who at the school at Texas A and M University 0:10:43.880 --> 0:10:48.040 another center. You love this guy, Eric McCoy and see 0:10:48.040 --> 0:10:50.080 he and I when I wrote about him, I said, 0:10:52.480 --> 0:10:54.680 I don't I'm not convinced I'll ever make a Pro Bowl, 0:10:54.920 --> 0:10:56.800 but he's gonna be a rock solid starter for a 0:10:56.800 --> 0:10:59.120 long time. You know, just plug him in. He's good. 0:10:59.200 --> 0:11:02.199 You know, I don't know if he's Pro Bowl level, 0:11:02.280 --> 0:11:03.720 you know where he's gonna be that type of guy 0:11:04.120 --> 0:11:07.360 because he's not explosive, but he's quick and he's strong 0:11:07.480 --> 0:11:10.120 enough and he's gonna create stalemates and as a center, 0:11:10.120 --> 0:11:12.080 as an offensive lineman, that's that's all you want. You 0:11:12.080 --> 0:11:14.760 could watch him play against Alabama and you know he's 0:11:14.760 --> 0:11:17.360 going up against Williams and guys like that inside, those 0:11:17.360 --> 0:11:21.040 big bugs, those big guys inside, and he's holding his own. 0:11:21.360 --> 0:11:24.480 I mean, he's not getting driven back, he's playing square. 0:11:24.480 --> 0:11:28.199 He's getting guys turned. Clemson, Clemson Clemson was another one. 0:11:28.200 --> 0:11:30.559 If you mean there's some quality film if you want 0:11:30.559 --> 0:11:33.720 to watch Eric McCoy from Texas. And and again the 0:11:33.840 --> 0:11:36.160 speed that the time for him, I think was in 0:11:36.160 --> 0:11:38.360 the low four nines. I think I think he had 0:11:38.400 --> 0:11:43.400 the fastest time of all the offensive lineman today. But yeah, 0:11:43.480 --> 0:11:45.920 I first noticed him at the Senior Bowl and in 0:11:46.080 --> 0:11:49.400 Danes like, you haven't watched this kid, haven't. You haven't 0:11:49.400 --> 0:11:51.640 studied this guy. And I'm like, okay, I get it. 0:11:51.679 --> 0:11:54.520 I'm going to study. No, no, But but you know 0:11:54.600 --> 0:11:57.240 you're good. You're good in that way because you wanted 0:11:57.240 --> 0:11:59.080 me to study these We're gonna get me. You're gonna 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:02.080 get You're gonna running people look at Miles Sanders. Yet 0:12:02.280 --> 0:12:06.600 that's what my notes I said that, That's what I'm 0:12:06.600 --> 0:12:08.480 saying in my notes. That's a name we're gonna get 0:12:08.520 --> 0:12:11.360 talking about this. But you talk about him, You talk 0:12:11.400 --> 0:12:16.360 about the Mississippi State Elgin Egin Jenkin Jenkins, right, yeah, 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:18.720 you talk about him. He guy you said you'd stand 0:12:18.760 --> 0:12:20.880 on the table for I know, I know, but there's 0:12:21.000 --> 0:12:23.360 you feel that way today after today? Oh you know what, 0:12:23.400 --> 0:12:25.080 he didn't run the forty. But I'll tell you what 0:12:25.160 --> 0:12:28.960 though his tape. His tape is very similar to what 0:12:29.040 --> 0:12:32.920 you see with North Carolina State with the Texas A 0:12:32.960 --> 0:12:36.120 and M very similar. Different style, different style to play it, 0:12:36.200 --> 0:12:38.559 but the mobility is there. If you want to zone, 0:12:38.600 --> 0:12:41.160 if you're like running a heavy zone scheme, then Bradbury's 0:12:41.160 --> 0:12:43.440 your guy. If you want more a guy that's gonna 0:12:43.440 --> 0:12:46.880 play with power in line, you know, like that's to me, 0:12:47.040 --> 0:12:49.920 that's what Jenkins does better. And I think with one 0:12:49.960 --> 0:12:52.360 thing that separates Jenkins from Bradbury as well as the 0:12:52.480 --> 0:12:56.960 versatility exactly where Jenkins, if you want him to kick 0:12:57.000 --> 0:12:58.600 out the guard, he'll probably do that. He played right 0:12:58.600 --> 0:13:01.599 tackle for a season. He could you do that. Bradbury's 0:13:01.640 --> 0:13:04.439 probably a center only. Yeah, you know, he's got shorter arms. 0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:08.480 He's you plug him in and he's gonna You said it, 0:13:08.600 --> 0:13:11.559 You got the guy nail. Jenkins has some position flex 0:13:11.600 --> 0:13:12.839 where he can help you out in a few different 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:15.400 spots if you're a toy guard center versatility. You know, 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:18.559 if the Cowboys had to make a move at center 0:13:18.600 --> 0:13:22.079 because of something happened to Travis Frederick, this would be 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:24.520 a draft that you could actually feel like, you know what, 0:13:25.040 --> 0:13:27.360 we could tag a guy here and we would be good. 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:31.320 Can you just completely rule it out? I mean all signs, 0:13:31.360 --> 0:13:33.160 I think they really I think they really do like 0:13:33.280 --> 0:13:36.800 the kid that they brought in, uh, Redman, I think 0:13:36.800 --> 0:13:39.320 they really do like him a lot. I know that. 0:13:39.400 --> 0:13:42.480 Joe Looney, No I know, but but no, no, you're 0:13:42.520 --> 0:13:45.079 making talking to me. You're you're giving me coach speak. 0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:47.360 Come on, no no, no, no, no no, no mean coach 0:13:47.440 --> 0:13:49.440 no no, no, I think they do. Like I think 0:13:49.440 --> 0:13:52.280 if if with Looney be like, Okay, first of all, 0:13:52.360 --> 0:13:55.360 all signs point toward Travis Frederick being fine. Oh, absolutely 0:13:55.400 --> 0:13:58.600 gonna choose to believe that. Uh it's something to keep 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:01.160 an eye on. And Joe Looney's under contract. But like 0:14:02.160 --> 0:14:05.560 you're sitting you're gushing. You've been gushing about four different 0:14:05.559 --> 0:14:08.480 centers for ten minutes, and you're like, ah, they like 0:14:08.600 --> 0:14:11.160 this guy they like No, no, no, I was just saying, 0:14:11.240 --> 0:14:13.640 no that they like just they liked a guy. What's 0:14:13.640 --> 0:14:17.000 wrong with that? Because you're you're always trying to get better, 0:14:17.280 --> 0:14:19.600 not just kind of Oh, we had this conversation about 0:14:19.680 --> 0:14:22.400 Jason Witten last night for thirty minutes. Didn't you want 0:14:22.440 --> 0:14:24.880 to do that again? No? I really don't. I really 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:29.760 don't absolutely do not. You don't want to do that 0:14:29.800 --> 0:14:32.520 at all. Okay, let me tell you what though. He 0:14:32.560 --> 0:14:35.160 was trying to get me to like Chris Lynstrom from 0:14:35.160 --> 0:14:38.040 Boston College, the top guard of the draft. See that's 0:14:38.120 --> 0:14:41.400 I don't see that. I don't see that. Why did it? 0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:44.160 Did today change your mind at all? Okay? I have 0:14:44.200 --> 0:14:46.520 to admit I wasn't as high on Chris Lynstrom from 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:49.120 Boston College. I didn't see the athletic ability in his 0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:53.480 film they displayed in this workout. But but he showed 0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:55.440 it today. For a guard, I wanted to see better 0:14:55.520 --> 0:14:58.480 movement and he was able to do that. Yeah, okay, 0:14:58.520 --> 0:15:01.760 did he train to do this? Did he say Okay, 0:15:01.800 --> 0:15:05.040 I'm kind of a stiff moving guard to all of 0:15:05.080 --> 0:15:07.920 a sudden now I mean he he, I admit it. 0:15:08.000 --> 0:15:11.080 I will always admit when I'm wrong, and you try 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:12.760 to get me to say this. Now does it Does 0:15:12.840 --> 0:15:15.720 it make me think? Okay, go back and study him 0:15:15.760 --> 0:15:18.040 a little more? Does he need to be around up? 0:15:18.240 --> 0:15:20.360 Should I not bury him in the fourth round? Well, 0:15:20.400 --> 0:15:22.000 you probably did what four or five tapes on him? 0:15:22.040 --> 0:15:23.640 I did, So there's other tapes. Maybe you go to 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:25.120 look at those and see if it changes your mind 0:15:25.120 --> 0:15:26.600 at all. And yeah, you know, because no, I think 0:15:26.600 --> 0:15:29.560 you're absolutely right when you know. And I was talking 0:15:29.600 --> 0:15:32.480 to a scout about this Samia with my guy. You know, 0:15:32.680 --> 0:15:34.920 Samia is my top guy. I find not I thought 0:15:34.920 --> 0:15:37.480 he had a good day. Yeah from Oklahoma. Um, I 0:15:37.480 --> 0:15:40.200 didn't think so I know I And that's that's that's funny. 0:15:40.520 --> 0:15:42.680 But you know, like how like the forty yard dash, 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:44.320 like one Scott told me, he like he doesn't care 0:15:44.360 --> 0:15:47.200 anymore because it's all technique. It's all like that, it's 0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:49.800 all they trained for. I'm glad, I'm glad. Okay, that's 0:15:50.080 --> 0:15:53.920 I was gonna bring that up, Like how specialized the 0:15:53.960 --> 0:15:57.360 combine is now? Like if you are worth even the 0:15:57.440 --> 0:15:59.400 smallest day, there was a time that didn't know the 0:15:59.480 --> 0:16:04.120 drills that well, that's my point was the time ago? 0:16:04.160 --> 0:16:07.360 What do you sit like combine? You use the combine 0:16:07.400 --> 0:16:10.200 to like compliment the tape or educate yourself us and 0:16:10.240 --> 0:16:12.200 you might not see on tape, but like, okay, what's 0:16:12.760 --> 0:16:15.680 look more athletic? Okay he did, but I got what 0:16:15.680 --> 0:16:17.920 what if? And I don't want to pick on Lenstrom, 0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:20.160 I'm just using him as an example, but like what if? 0:16:20.720 --> 0:16:22.960 So he knows that about himself, and he just goes 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:24.920 and works on that and gets good at it so 0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:28.240 he can do these drills. Doesn't necessarily mean he's better 0:16:28.280 --> 0:16:30.840 as a player. It's not football. You're just learning how 0:16:30.840 --> 0:16:33.840 to do these drills really well. I mean, is that 0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:36.240 concerning Well, I mean it's we can go year by 0:16:36.360 --> 0:16:38.560 year and point out look at the combine results and 0:16:38.560 --> 0:16:41.920 point out guys who tested well, who amounted in nothing, 0:16:42.000 --> 0:16:44.640 and you know whether or not you changed your grade 0:16:44.920 --> 0:16:47.760 based off the combine. You know, that's that's part of 0:16:47.760 --> 0:16:49.960 the learning process for for scouts out there. If you 0:16:50.520 --> 0:16:53.040 if you change John Ross's grade because he ran a 0:16:53.120 --> 0:16:56.320 four two two, then okay, same on you, right. Well, yeah, 0:16:56.320 --> 0:16:58.280 and sometimes you have to learn the hard way. Yeah, 0:16:58.320 --> 0:17:01.680 but with these guys, especially often the lineman, I don't know, 0:17:01.760 --> 0:17:05.040 I feel like it's tougher to just learn something and 0:17:05.080 --> 0:17:06.800 then not apply it, you know, like I got in 0:17:06.880 --> 0:17:08.639 Chris Linstrum. I don't think he all of a sudden 0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:11.119 got more flexible, and but he's not gonna show on 0:17:11.160 --> 0:17:13.840 tape like I saw a little bit of that on tape, 0:17:13.840 --> 0:17:16.920 and you know, I hit the flexibility, hit flexibility, Yeah, 0:17:17.000 --> 0:17:20.240 I did, h I didn't see a stiff guy, I'll 0:17:20.240 --> 0:17:22.520 put it that way. Yeah, I just kind of I was. 0:17:22.600 --> 0:17:26.479 I struggled with him really bad. And I want to say, 0:17:26.720 --> 0:17:29.160 you and I did not watch him together. No, yeah, 0:17:29.560 --> 0:17:32.959 And usually you and I will fight about players, you know, 0:17:33.000 --> 0:17:35.600 and and go back and forth. But I I just 0:17:35.680 --> 0:17:39.760 did not see a guy that was that that athletic. 0:17:39.840 --> 0:17:43.119 I mean, he clearly looked athletic. I mean it's a 0:17:44.200 --> 0:17:47.520 I said, here a guy used on pull but not effective. 0:17:48.160 --> 0:17:51.000 You know, has some pop, but jilia position block are 0:17:51.040 --> 0:17:53.840 not able to extend on reach or cut off blocks. See, 0:17:53.840 --> 0:17:55.720 those are things that if you're not a very good 0:17:55.760 --> 0:17:59.200 athlete that you kind of but but here I saw 0:17:59.240 --> 0:18:02.320 a guy that actually he played low today when when 0:18:02.320 --> 0:18:04.480 they're asking him to pull and when they're asking him 0:18:04.640 --> 0:18:07.480 you know, doing the switch blocks and stuff, he actually 0:18:07.560 --> 0:18:10.439 came around the block. And I'm like going, oh, all right, 0:18:10.480 --> 0:18:13.520 where where was this when you were playing Miami in 0:18:13.560 --> 0:18:16.840 North Carolina state those people, right, you know, So I 0:18:17.320 --> 0:18:19.000 don't know. I mean, that's that's one of those things 0:18:19.040 --> 0:18:20.760 where I need to go back and look at more 0:18:20.800 --> 0:18:23.920 on him and see exactly where he's at coming from 0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:26.440 this one. You got time and that's what the combine is, 0:18:26.440 --> 0:18:29.159 one big cross checking exercise. Yeah, you know, if something 0:18:29.280 --> 0:18:31.760 works out like you didn't expect and go back to 0:18:31.800 --> 0:18:33.800 the film and you figure out, Okay, was I right 0:18:33.880 --> 0:18:35.920 the first time, or maybe this guy is a little 0:18:35.920 --> 0:18:37.879 bit better than I expected. And we'll be doing that 0:18:37.880 --> 0:18:40.280 with the receivers. We'll be doing that with every position. 0:18:40.680 --> 0:18:45.280 Devin's singletary coming in and not performing well is and 0:18:45.359 --> 0:18:47.240 I out now I want to get to that. And 0:18:47.280 --> 0:18:48.919 that's an eye opener. I want to get to the 0:18:49.000 --> 0:18:53.399 running backs. Yeah, I want to and I want to 0:18:53.400 --> 0:18:55.760 get to it. And you brought up Devin's singletary, and 0:18:55.880 --> 0:18:58.399 I will I will give the senator from Ohio the 0:18:58.400 --> 0:19:01.600 floor on this one. I've called him Lashan McCoy, you know, 0:19:01.680 --> 0:19:03.680 and that's high praise talking about a Pro Bowl running 0:19:03.720 --> 0:19:06.040 back who you know, one of the few running backs 0:19:06.080 --> 0:19:07.880 who's had a type of career that he has at 0:19:07.960 --> 0:19:10.560 around two hundred pounds. And that's what Devin Singletary is. 0:19:10.560 --> 0:19:13.119 He's not a big bruiser, uh, you know, talking about 0:19:13.119 --> 0:19:15.840 creating yards within the middle of the field. You know 0:19:16.000 --> 0:19:17.520 he can do that, just it's not going to be 0:19:17.600 --> 0:19:20.440 his m O. And what makes him a special running back. 0:19:20.920 --> 0:19:22.600 He came in he should be the type of guy 0:19:22.640 --> 0:19:25.720 that tests well, especially only two hundred pounds and the 0:19:25.800 --> 0:19:30.680 forty was in the four sixes the three cone, which 0:19:30.720 --> 0:19:33.399 is my favorite drill. I believe in the three cone 0:19:33.480 --> 0:19:36.359 every single position. If you're a stiff athlete, you cannot 0:19:36.440 --> 0:19:40.119 escape to three cone. He had a poor time. It 0:19:40.200 --> 0:19:42.800 was like seven three four or something like that. Not 0:19:43.040 --> 0:19:45.240 good for a running back. I want you to be 0:19:45.280 --> 0:19:48.720