WEBVTT - Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, March 10 0:00:02.480 --> 0:00:10.959 It is Thursday March. This is Jaguars Happy Hour, and 0:00:11.160 --> 0:00:13.840 now a guy who was searching first ball when the 0:00:13.840 --> 0:00:20.599 horns sounded japs shot Rick, welcome and it is Jaguars 0:00:20.600 --> 0:00:24.880 Happy Hour on this Thursday afternoon. Does he show ahead? 0:00:24.880 --> 0:00:27.280 Of course, relive on Tin ten a m and Jacksonville, 0:00:27.400 --> 0:00:32.440 Jaguars dot com, Jaguars Twitter and Facebook, and Jaguars YouTube. 0:00:33.479 --> 0:00:37.400 We're everywhere that you need to be. Podcast available on 0:00:37.440 --> 0:00:39.440 the free I Heart Radio app, but hit us up 0:00:39.479 --> 0:00:41.800 on Twitter as well at j P Shadrick at Logs 0:00:41.800 --> 0:00:45.040 fifty six. Jeff will look at that maybe by August. 0:00:45.520 --> 0:00:47.320 Let's take a look at what's coming up on the 0:00:47.320 --> 0:00:51.440 show today. Speaking of it's Jeff Logan. Jaguars analyst Cam 0:00:51.520 --> 0:00:55.920 Robinson gets the franchise tag. What does that mean for 0:00:55.960 --> 0:00:58.600 the number one overall pick in the NFL Draft? In 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:03.520 we'll get answers from Logs Future For d J. Chark Jr. 0:01:03.760 --> 0:01:05.399 We're a little less than a week away from the 0:01:05.400 --> 0:01:08.280 start of the new league year and free agency, but 0:01:08.440 --> 0:01:11.319 Chark has been working out with Trevor Lawrence. At least 0:01:11.600 --> 0:01:14.679 Tuesday was running rounds with him, according to Instagram, and 0:01:14.800 --> 0:01:19.400 some huge quarterback news around the NFL. Jeff Logman with us. Now, 0:01:19.480 --> 0:01:22.240 good afternoon, Jeff. What's up. It's all good, it's all 0:01:22.319 --> 0:01:27.600 good happening. This is my my Patrick Cavanaugh special hats 0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:30.600 teal and black. It's got alternating letters and different colors. 0:01:30.600 --> 0:01:32.039 It's got the cat head in the front. It's a 0:01:32.040 --> 0:01:34.080 good looking at and they see this is this is 0:01:34.120 --> 0:01:37.160 available at Jaguars dot com at the NFL shop. I'm 0:01:37.200 --> 0:01:40.480 sure it is. Yes, Um, it's a what did you 0:01:40.480 --> 0:01:43.600 call that retro or would that be? Um? Would you 0:01:43.680 --> 0:01:46.120 describe them? See right on the inside there it says 0:01:46.240 --> 0:01:53.200 p K. This is the Patrick Kavanaugh special hat. It 0:01:53.320 --> 0:01:55.680 was meant to decorate the studio. This is my game 0:01:55.760 --> 0:01:58.440 day hat. This is what I wear for this show. 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:02.640 This is our same day Yeah. For those who you know, 0:02:02.680 --> 0:02:06.000 we don't have a game show or anything, Logs y, 0:02:06.160 --> 0:02:08.839 I'm just telling you so you know, people can't see 0:02:08.880 --> 0:02:11.040 the studio before the show because the cameras on aren't 0:02:11.080 --> 0:02:13.080 aren't on yet. That's the whole idea of a show, right, 0:02:13.280 --> 0:02:16.320 you know, starts and then ends well before Logs comes 0:02:16.360 --> 0:02:19.519 in and his outdoors show hat that's correct, and then 0:02:19.880 --> 0:02:23.120 changes it like Mr Rogers would do. With his you know, cardigan, 0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:26.040 but you do it with hats. That's that's correct, and 0:02:26.080 --> 0:02:28.600 we appreciate If I was wearing a hat today. I can't. 0:02:28.680 --> 0:02:30.920 I can't, you know, you know, I gotta represent. So 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:33.520 I'm gonna put the Jaguars ad on for the show. 0:02:33.560 --> 0:02:37.400 By the way, I heard you got franchise tagged me. Yeah, 0:02:37.520 --> 0:02:39.720 I don't know what the number is on that, but uh, 0:02:40.360 --> 0:02:43.359 that wasn't quite the in the listing. I'll say that 0:02:43.960 --> 0:02:47.600 big week, right, Yeah, franchise tag for Cam Robinson sixteen 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:50.280 point six million guaranteed for one year if he signs 0:02:50.280 --> 0:02:53.000 the tender and the Jags and Robinson have until July 0:02:53.080 --> 0:02:56.040 fifteen to work on a long term term deal or 0:02:56.080 --> 0:02:59.519 he would play under that one year number. Yeah, they're 0:02:59.800 --> 0:03:02.639 just quicker on that. If I'm Cam Robinson, I'm probably 0:03:03.240 --> 0:03:05.480 just gonna go ahead and sign it because I think 0:03:05.480 --> 0:03:07.320 it's gonna end up being just like, very similar to 0:03:07.440 --> 0:03:10.799 last year. It's gonna be a one year deal and um, 0:03:11.560 --> 0:03:13.240 and I think it was the right thing to do. 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:16.480 You think so, First of all, Kim Robinson is a 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:20.360 is a solid, good football player, and I don't want 0:03:20.400 --> 0:03:23.079 anybody to have the impression because he got franchise that 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:25.680 he's one of the best left tackles in football. That's 0:03:26.240 --> 0:03:28.799 that's not what he is. He's a good he's a 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:31.160 good football player, which means that he's the middle of 0:03:31.160 --> 0:03:33.880 the pack that you know too. Sometimes maybe you know 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:36.720 backward part of the middle part of the pack. But 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:39.520 he's a he's a starter. He's a starter, and he's 0:03:39.560 --> 0:03:43.680 a starting caliber left tackle in this league. And those 0:03:43.760 --> 0:03:47.120 players are not cheap, and so you want to and 0:03:47.200 --> 0:03:49.360 when when you're a football team that hasn't won a 0:03:49.360 --> 0:03:52.000 lot of games in the last decade, you want to 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:55.400 keep all the best players that you possibly can so 0:03:55.480 --> 0:03:58.040 that you're not trying to fill holes. I mean, you 0:03:58.440 --> 0:04:01.080 have enough holes to fill as it is already. That's 0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:03.480 why your record has been the worst in the National 0:04:03.520 --> 0:04:06.080 Football League two years in a row. You've got to 0:04:06.120 --> 0:04:09.360 concentrate on getting better. And the way that you get 0:04:09.400 --> 0:04:13.000 better is that you get better players. And and putting 0:04:13.000 --> 0:04:17.040 the tag on Cam Robinson is the right thing to do. 0:04:17.040 --> 0:04:20.640 Does it change any of your plan going forward in 0:04:20.720 --> 0:04:26.400 free agency and in the draft? I think free agency 0:04:26.440 --> 0:04:28.479 it might change a little bit of what you would do, 0:04:28.520 --> 0:04:30.480 because if you didn't tag him, you might end up 0:04:30.520 --> 0:04:34.240 looking at another option who uh goes by the last 0:04:34.320 --> 0:04:37.800 name of Armstead. Okay, to maybe play your left tackle position. 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:39.760 It might cost you a little bit more money, more 0:04:39.800 --> 0:04:42.800 than more than sixteen point six huh. But from the 0:04:42.920 --> 0:04:46.400 standpoint of changing what you would do for the draft, 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:50.520 I don't think it changes anything. Nothing, nothing. So they 0:04:50.560 --> 0:04:53.520 could still go with tackle at number one overall, absolutely 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:56.719 and then let the new guy play somewhere else and 0:04:56.760 --> 0:05:00.680 then figure it out if Jonathan Ogden who who is? 0:05:01.000 --> 0:05:05.320 And you go back to this story which the Cleveland 0:05:05.360 --> 0:05:09.520 brown slash Baltimore Ravens, because that was the Tony Jones 0:05:09.560 --> 0:05:12.039 was the starting left tackle for the Cleveland Browns before 0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:15.359 the organization made the move to Baltimore. Tony Jones was 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:18.440 one of the better left tackles in football, and so 0:05:18.520 --> 0:05:21.800 they drafted Jonathan Ogden. With Tony Jones still at the 0:05:21.880 --> 0:05:25.240 left tackle position. They allowed Tony Jones to continue to 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:29.520 play left tackle. Ogden played left guard, which was funny 0:05:29.600 --> 0:05:31.599 is all get out watching a six eighth man get 0:05:31.600 --> 0:05:34.640 into a guards you know, stand. But he was really 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:37.960 good even at guard. And then when Tony Jones moved on, 0:05:38.160 --> 0:05:40.760 then you had Jonathan Ogden to take over, and of 0:05:40.760 --> 0:05:43.599 course he had a Hall of Fame career. So can 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:49.120 you play a draft pick at guard. Absolutely? Can you 0:05:49.240 --> 0:05:51.880 play maybe somebody else at guard that you already have 0:05:51.960 --> 0:05:55.080 on your roster, maybe the guy that you drafted pretty 0:05:55.160 --> 0:05:59.080 high last year. Absolutely. I think everything, everything is on 0:05:59.120 --> 0:06:02.279 the table. And I've had this before, I'll say it again, 0:06:02.279 --> 0:06:04.640 and it's just my own personal belief. It doesn't come 0:06:04.720 --> 0:06:09.719 from anywhere inside the football brains of this organization. But 0:06:09.839 --> 0:06:12.480 I am a believer that Cam Robinson can be one 0:06:12.480 --> 0:06:15.279 of the best right tackles in football. And I think 0:06:15.320 --> 0:06:17.800 he's built to play right tackle. And if you ended 0:06:17.880 --> 0:06:20.799 up drafting and left tackle, or you had Walker Little 0:06:20.800 --> 0:06:24.240 play left tackle, or you had the draft pick played 0:06:24.560 --> 0:06:27.360 left tackle, walker Little playing guard, I think that that 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:30.839 would all be good for this football team. The better 0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:34.000 offensive line that you can put in front of Trevor Lawrence, 0:06:34.040 --> 0:06:36.440 the better your football team is gonna be, even if 0:06:36.480 --> 0:06:39.640 they happen to be all tackles by trade. Now, the 0:06:40.120 --> 0:06:45.400 rookies at Quanta Evan Neil both have played multiple positions 0:06:45.400 --> 0:06:49.520 throughout their careers. In college played guard before a Neil's 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:51.960 third position and left tackles. Now like he started his 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:54.760 career in college at left tackles, so they can't move 0:06:54.800 --> 0:06:58.480 around if and and uh and and here's the other thing. 0:06:58.600 --> 0:07:02.640 You need to create or competition for your offensive line 0:07:03.279 --> 0:07:06.039 because that's the only way you get better. The buff 0:07:06.080 --> 0:07:09.240 Buffalo Bills just reported that they're gonna be letting go. 0:07:09.360 --> 0:07:12.360 I think it's Feliciano, who has been a starting guard 0:07:12.400 --> 0:07:14.560 for them. I think he would be a great pickup. 0:07:15.200 --> 0:07:18.120 You know. I think this football team needs more competition upfront. 0:07:18.120 --> 0:07:21.040 And Feliciano not only has he been a starter for 0:07:21.040 --> 0:07:24.160 the Buffalo Bills, but he's got an edge about him 0:07:24.160 --> 0:07:27.640 the way he plays the game. Bobby Wagner. Look, if 0:07:27.680 --> 0:07:30.400 I'm this football team, I'm on the phone with Bobby 0:07:30.440 --> 0:07:34.200 Wagner and his representation right now. I mean, you want 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:39.200 to win, then let's bring in a guy who is 0:07:39.400 --> 0:07:41.640 one of the best players in all of football at 0:07:41.640 --> 0:07:44.400 the position and he plays and oh, by the way, 0:07:44.720 --> 0:07:48.720 you need a linebacker. Okay, Um, what's wrong with having 0:07:48.720 --> 0:07:51.720 a guy to help show the locker room what winning 0:07:51.800 --> 0:07:53.640 is all about, who's won a lot of games in 0:07:53.640 --> 0:07:57.240 his football career and as a total professional. Anything wrong 0:07:57.240 --> 0:07:59.560 on that? That doesn't sound like it to be No, 0:07:59.760 --> 0:08:02.400 why not, I mean, why not inquire about a guy 0:08:02.440 --> 0:08:03.800 like that? So, I mean a lot of these things 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:07.920 that you can inquire. It takes two to tango though, 0:08:07.960 --> 0:08:11.800 absolutely absolutely, But you gotta make that phone call if 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:14.560 you have if you had the mindset, because you know, 0:08:15.320 --> 0:08:18.240 this mindset has existed here in the past, and that 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:23.040 the mindset sometimes can be well looked. We're building, we're 0:08:23.040 --> 0:08:25.080 building something here. You know, you know, we don't want 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:27.480 to we don't want to use you know, bringing old 0:08:27.520 --> 0:08:31.760 guys for this football team because you know what, you know, 0:08:31.800 --> 0:08:33.560 when we get good, we want to make sure that 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:37.000 we're you know, they're they're here to play. Darryl Smith, 0:08:37.040 --> 0:08:40.280 We're good. You know, along happen with Darryl Smith. That 0:08:40.400 --> 0:08:46.200 was back into Look, the football of today is not 0:08:46.320 --> 0:08:48.640 about okay, let's build to the future. I mean everybody 0:08:48.640 --> 0:08:50.760 tried to do that. This this organization tried to do 0:08:50.760 --> 0:08:52.880 it for years, building the future. And don't guess what, 0:08:53.080 --> 0:08:55.960 the future never came. I mean it came one year 0:08:55.960 --> 0:09:00.120 in seventeen. You've you've got to continue to try to 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:01.920 put the best team on the field. And then you 0:09:01.920 --> 0:09:04.599 know what if you got a quarterback and all of 0:09:04.640 --> 0:09:06.560 a sudden, you start putting some pieces in place, and 0:09:06.600 --> 0:09:09.440 then you get hot. You don't know what can happen, 0:09:09.960 --> 0:09:14.320 And so why not? Why not? And because a lot 0:09:14.360 --> 0:09:17.240 of people say, hey, you know he's too old. You know, 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:21.720 Chandler Jones, eye, he's too old. Last time I checked. 0:09:22.440 --> 0:09:27.000 He's Chandler Jones and Bobby Wagner. We're still really good 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:31.040 football players in this league, like lead the league and tackles. Again, 0:09:31.720 --> 0:09:34.280 he leads the league in tackles like every year, right, 0:09:35.280 --> 0:09:39.520 and he is I want to say, he's has some 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:45.120 stat about and here's a guy who's an absolute tackling machine. 0:09:45.280 --> 0:09:49.400 His eighth straight Pro Bowl hundred seventy tackles a career 0:09:49.480 --> 0:09:52.280 high last season for Wagner. Okay, but here's the crazy 0:09:52.320 --> 0:09:55.560 thing about Bobby Wagner is that if you look at 0:09:55.600 --> 0:09:58.840 all the tackles that he makes year in and year out, 0:09:59.520 --> 0:10:02.880 and then you look at the number of miss tackles 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:08.599 that he has, it's like nonexistent. So how in the 0:10:08.720 --> 0:10:11.680 world can a guy that makes that many tackles not 0:10:11.880 --> 0:10:15.520 miss a tackle every now and again? But Bobby Wagner 0:10:15.559 --> 0:10:21.079 doesn't miss tackles, which is crazy. And the Seahawks are 0:10:21.080 --> 0:10:24.280 moving on. You know Russell Wilson there, trading him and 0:10:24.280 --> 0:10:27.320 and Bobby Wagner can represent a lot of cap savings, 0:10:27.320 --> 0:10:31.120 and the Seahawks are committing to the future, I guess, 0:10:31.240 --> 0:10:35.480 and for complete rebuild. I mean, if I'm this football 0:10:35.520 --> 0:10:37.760 team here in Jacksonville right now, if I'm the Jaguars, 0:10:37.760 --> 0:10:41.920 I'm absolutely trying to find out about where Bobby Wagner 0:10:42.000 --> 0:10:44.040 is at, where a guy like Chandler Jones is at, 0:10:44.120 --> 0:10:46.320 because right now you need to start playing better football. 0:10:46.440 --> 0:10:49.800 More on free agency coming up in what the Jags 0:10:49.880 --> 0:10:52.240 could do at number one overall. After the tagging of 0:10:52.320 --> 0:10:55.520 Cam Robinson's Jaguars Happy Hour on Tinted Excel and Jaguars 0:10:55.520 --> 0:10:59.160 dot Com, J P Shadrick with Jeff Lagaman also this week, 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:01.920 I don't I know you're a big social media guy, 0:11:02.520 --> 0:11:06.120 following to a t every single day You're following Twitter. 0:11:06.200 --> 0:11:09.360 I know that NonStop at logs five six because you 0:11:09.360 --> 0:11:12.600 always respond and retweet everybody. You're that you're that kind 0:11:12.600 --> 0:11:16.840 of guy all the time. Instagram is even more for you. Yeah. 0:11:17.000 --> 0:11:22.360 So DJ Chark Tuesday puts out an Instagram story is 0:11:22.400 --> 0:11:24.720 what they called. It's the video portion of the top 0:11:25.120 --> 0:11:28.080 and tell me about. It's him running a couple of 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:30.559 routes with Trevor Lawrence throwing him the ball at Bishop 0:11:30.600 --> 0:11:34.600 Kinning High School. Well, free agency starts next week. DJ's 0:11:34.640 --> 0:11:37.280 coming off, of course, a fractured ankle, still trying to 0:11:37.280 --> 0:11:40.559 I think fully work his way back. But um, that's 0:11:40.800 --> 0:11:43.320 I think pretty notable with only a week to go 0:11:43.400 --> 0:11:46.760 before free agency. Notable from the standpoint of what he's 0:11:46.800 --> 0:11:49.440 with the quarterback. Does does that mean anything to you? 0:11:49.559 --> 0:11:53.560 Or is it just work together? Look, a quarterback would 0:11:53.559 --> 0:11:56.360 like to throw the ball to some people, a wide 0:11:56.360 --> 0:11:58.679 receiver would like to catch the ball. Couldn't see who 0:11:58.679 --> 0:12:00.680 else was out there in the video from some people. 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:04.320 But my point is is that we're reading into this 0:12:04.360 --> 0:12:09.360 too much. I think, So does it mean anything? Oh? 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:12.640 Come on, I mean to look at it's two guys 0:12:12.640 --> 0:12:15.480 that have a relationship, that both need to work at 0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:17.880 their craft, and here's an opportunity for them to throw 0:12:17.920 --> 0:12:21.920 the football together. I mean, what's wrong with that? What 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:24.880 I'd personally like to see DJ Chark back with his 0:12:24.880 --> 0:12:27.520 football team. Absolutely, But also there's got to be a 0:12:27.600 --> 0:12:30.360 number to be considered. I mean, if you look at 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:32.559 a DJ over the last three years, he's had one 0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:34.840 good year in the last other two years he's had 0:12:35.200 --> 0:12:37.959 production that has been down, and also he's been injured. 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:41.440 So it's not like you can we gotta have DJ 0:12:41.559 --> 0:12:44.440 at all costs because he was thrown with Trevor Lawrence. 0:12:44.880 --> 0:12:49.200 Gotta have him, gotta have him. No, but having if Trevor, 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:51.520 if they asked, hey, Trevor, what do you think of DJ? 0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:54.520 You really want him around, He's gonna it's gonna say, 0:12:54.520 --> 0:12:56.040 I want I'd like to have one of them. I 0:12:56.040 --> 0:12:58.600 want to have them. You take that under consideration, though, 0:12:58.640 --> 0:13:01.760 as a decision as a quarterback, you your quarterback wants 0:13:01.760 --> 0:13:05.199 to throw to. You have to say that. As a quarterback, 0:13:05.640 --> 0:13:07.960 you gotta want to team comes you and says, hey, 0:13:07.960 --> 0:13:09.440 you know what, we got this guy right here, would 0:13:09.440 --> 0:13:13.080 you like throw You gotta say that as a quarterback, 0:13:13.160 --> 0:13:15.959 and especially if he's your current teammate, you got all. 0:13:16.040 --> 0:13:17.720 You always have to be in the corner of your 0:13:17.760 --> 0:13:22.360 current teammates, regardless if deep down you maybe rather throw 0:13:22.400 --> 0:13:25.840 to a different guy, but you always back your guys, 0:13:26.480 --> 0:13:28.720 and your guys are the ones that are under contract, 0:13:29.000 --> 0:13:31.959 that you have a relationship with and that you've bawd 0:13:32.000 --> 0:13:35.880 with before. You have to back them first. I wonder 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:38.240 what you know if he gets out to the marketplace 0:13:38.280 --> 0:13:42.360 on Wednesday at four o'clock. What And that's when free 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:46.000 agency start starts. Is next Wednesday at four o'clock, which 0:13:46.080 --> 0:13:50.199 the the the cheating period. When is that a Funday 0:13:50.240 --> 0:13:55.320 begin that's Monday at Monday and Tuesday and Wednesday And 0:13:55.400 --> 0:13:57.439 here we go, Yeah, so boast, there's gonna be a 0:13:57.480 --> 0:14:00.640 lot of deals that are are gonna be struck already 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:05.000 before Wednesday at four o'clock and DJ and here's the reality. 0:14:05.400 --> 0:14:10.959 The conversations are already happening. Okay. It's that the people 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:15.040 aren't waiting, the agents and the players and the teams 0:14:15.559 --> 0:14:21.560 are not waiting okay until this legal tampering period or 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:24.480 the official start of free agency to talk numbers. They 0:14:24.520 --> 0:14:26.960 can sit there and say that they are all they want. 0:14:27.880 --> 0:14:30.360 It's no different than what there's been two trades that 0:14:30.400 --> 0:14:35.480 have been executed with Seattle Seahawks sending Russell Wilson to 0:14:35.520 --> 0:14:39.000 the Denver Broncos and then also Carson Wentz being sent 0:14:39.040 --> 0:14:42.120 to the Philadelphia Eagles. Okay, so you think they're having 0:14:42.120 --> 0:14:45.880 a conversation about trading these guys, right, But then not 0:14:46.040 --> 0:14:49.960 having conversations with maybe an agent who has a guy 0:14:50.120 --> 0:14:53.360 that's coming up for free agency. I mean, the combine 0:14:53.400 --> 0:14:57.200 was last week. Everybody's in the same city together, so yeah, 0:14:57.560 --> 0:15:00.560 you know, and if I'm passing by, if I'm d 0:15:00.720 --> 0:15:05.400 j RG, I'm going free agency. I mean, and I'm 0:15:05.400 --> 0:15:09.040 not trying to, you know, be negative in any way. 0:15:09.240 --> 0:15:12.680 But as a player, you always want to get to 0:15:12.800 --> 0:15:18.080 free agency. The the way that you can maximize your paycheck, 0:15:18.120 --> 0:15:23.280 your value is by getting to free agency. Okay, it's 0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:28.840 not negotiating with one, it's negotiating with at least two. 0:15:29.600 --> 0:15:33.720 Is where you can find how high this the limited? 0:15:33.760 --> 0:15:36.200 The sky is being the limit, so how high is 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:39.440 the ceiling? Well, get to free agency, get a couple 0:15:39.440 --> 0:15:43.240 of teams that start bidding for your services. It's not 0:15:43.400 --> 0:15:47.080 being before or it's not before free agency with one 0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:49.720 team that you're talking with, and so look and and 0:15:49.760 --> 0:15:52.280 here's the thing, and it's that's the thing to do 0:15:52.320 --> 0:15:55.760 if you're dj And there's nothing wrong with allowing a 0:15:55.920 --> 0:15:59.120 player to get the free agency because sometimes a conversation 0:15:59.120 --> 0:16:01.880 that a team might be having where the player, the 0:16:01.920 --> 0:16:05.120 player might have and the agent might have and away 0:16:05.280 --> 0:16:08.640 overly inflated opinion of the value of the player, and 0:16:08.680 --> 0:16:11.160 so the team sometimes has to say, hey, look, we 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:15.160 really like player X, your guy, we love them, but 0:16:15.280 --> 0:16:19.000 we're just we just we're just not comfortable at that number. 0:16:19.440 --> 0:16:21.880 So let's get the free agency and then let's kind 0:16:21.880 --> 0:16:23.880 of see where we're at, you know. So, I mean 0:16:23.880 --> 0:16:25.760 there's a couple approaches, and a lot of it is 0:16:25.800 --> 0:16:29.720 dependent upon where the team is at before free agency 0:16:29.720 --> 0:16:32.040 with a guy like DJ, and then also where DJ 0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:35.400 and his camp at is at before free agency exists, 0:16:35.440 --> 0:16:38.160 where their expectations are, and who else is out there 0:16:38.160 --> 0:16:43.280 in free agency too at the position. That's because there's 0:16:43.320 --> 0:16:46.080 always a peck and order and there's a value that's 0:16:46.120 --> 0:16:50.240 assigned in free agency to, you know, based upon who's available. 0:16:50.520 --> 0:16:52.400 You know, I'd love for this football team to be 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:56.080 able to keep DJ, but if it doesn't happen, it's 0:16:56.080 --> 0:16:58.880 not the end of the world. Like I said, I 0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:02.800 think it was last week, you JP. Uh. Wide receiver 0:17:03.080 --> 0:17:08.120 is the one position that every year the draft has 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:10.760 a bunch of them that come out, and I'm talking 0:17:10.920 --> 0:17:12.840 has a bunch of them that come out that are 0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:17.560 productive guys. That might be the most plentiful position year 0:17:17.600 --> 0:17:20.479 in and year out in the draft that there is. 0:17:20.600 --> 0:17:24.720 Can you think of another not quite like that? Because everybody, 0:17:25.320 --> 0:17:30.120 everybody's throwing the ball, and all the good athletes are 0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:33.919 somehow touching the ball, you know, through little league, et 0:17:33.920 --> 0:17:35.960 ceter It's not like they're grooming these great athletes that 0:17:36.040 --> 0:17:38.920 play left tackle or you know, play defensive van they 0:17:38.960 --> 0:17:41.359 touched the ball, and most of them are touching the 0:17:41.359 --> 0:17:45.040 ball as a quarterback or a wide receiver putting ahead, well, 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:47.679 come back in just a moment here from Bucky Brooks 0:17:47.680 --> 0:17:53.159 will also take a look at the decision to not, 0:17:54.040 --> 0:17:56.800 at least right now go with an executive vice president 0:17:57.040 --> 0:18:00.240 NW now rule later the time is now in New 0:18:00.320 --> 0:18:04.600 York Jaguars season tickets. Season ticket members who are new 0:18:04.600 --> 0:18:07.080 by March seventeen will also be inner to win a 0:18:07.119 --> 0:18:09.920 trip to Canton, Ohio as the Jags take on the 0:18:09.960 --> 0:18:13.959 Las Vegas Raiders, and the jags first ever Pro Football 0:18:13.960 --> 0:18:17.920 Hall of Famer Tony Boselli is enshrined. We're often running 0:18:17.920 --> 0:18:27.440 against Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. You 0:18:27.600 --> 0:18:31.359 want to weigh your options. If I have this player 0:18:31.600 --> 0:18:35.679 and that player, do I like that option better than Okay? 0:18:35.680 --> 0:18:37.800 I can take this draft pick and another player. So 0:18:37.800 --> 0:18:41.120 it's almost like, um, what's the claim price is right? Showcase? 0:18:41.160 --> 0:18:45.119 Show now ounity? Which one that you want? Um? You 0:18:45.119 --> 0:18:46.679 get you get to figure out which one that you 0:18:46.720 --> 0:18:49.280 wanted in And so that's what you're doing in the office. 0:18:49.359 --> 0:18:51.199 You're trying to figure out, Okay, what gives us the 0:18:51.200 --> 0:18:54.280 best opportunity to hit all the needs and all of 0:18:54.359 --> 0:18:57.199 the things that we must address for the best personnel. 0:18:57.680 --> 0:19:02.359 And obviously after doing the evaluation, Cam Robinson was in 0:19:02.400 --> 0:19:06.600 that picture. Because if you're Doug Peterson and you're trying 0:19:06.600 --> 0:19:08.000 to figure out what's the best way for us to 0:19:08.040 --> 0:19:09.359 get this role? And do I want to break in 0:19:09.400 --> 0:19:11.320 a newbie at Left Taco? Do I want to go 0:19:11.359 --> 0:19:13.680 with someone who may have some flaws because at least 0:19:13.720 --> 0:19:16.320 I know what those are, and we feel confident enough 0:19:16.359 --> 0:19:18.840 that maybe we can mask some of those efficiencies while 0:19:18.880 --> 0:19:21.040 getting the rest of the pieces of the puzzle. Right now, 0:19:21.280 --> 0:19:25.200 that is Bucky Brooks from a Huddle Up podcast yesterday, 0:19:25.240 --> 0:19:28.800 available now on the free I Heart radio app search 0:19:29.119 --> 0:19:33.600 Jacksonville Jaguars. This show will be on the podcast network 0:19:34.320 --> 0:19:36.960 what It's over with, So if you're listening on the podcast. Well, 0:19:37.400 --> 0:19:39.920 you're hearing me promote the podcast you're listening to. Thank 0:19:39.960 --> 0:19:44.280 you for listening. J P. Shadrick with Jeff Lockerman. Glad 0:19:44.320 --> 0:19:46.760 you're along with us today. Plenty to get to. That's 0:19:46.880 --> 0:19:51.639 of course, Cam Robinson talk continues. Yeah, So, by by 0:19:51.680 --> 0:19:54.080 the way, what was everybody laughing with? Bucky said there 0:19:53.840 --> 0:19:56.399 and so he said, uh, it was one of four 0:19:56.480 --> 0:19:59.720 prices right references on the podcast. Yes, that one was 0:19:59.800 --> 0:20:02.800 the natural first one, and that a few that came 0:20:02.880 --> 0:20:06.240 after that. So showcase Showdown, you get to pick whichever 0:20:06.359 --> 0:20:09.480 one you want if you at the right. That's what 0:20:09.560 --> 0:20:12.600 he was referencing. Okay, now now I get it. Help 0:20:12.640 --> 0:20:15.640 control the pet population, have your pet spade and yeah, 0:20:15.800 --> 0:20:19.840 thank you, Bob, You're welcome. I guess it now it's Drew. 0:20:20.320 --> 0:20:22.919 I haven't watched it in a while. Okay, I know 0:20:23.080 --> 0:20:25.000 I knew that, but I haven't watched it and forever. 0:20:25.960 --> 0:20:28.040 I'm usually work at ten o'clock in the morning. He's 0:20:28.080 --> 0:20:31.280 got he's got this crazy hair do. Now really, I 0:20:31.320 --> 0:20:33.320 mean it compared to the Drew carry ball, but bark 0:20:33.440 --> 0:20:35.399 is still alive. I think, I don't know. That's a 0:20:35.440 --> 0:20:39.159 great question. Like he's like the super executive producer emeritus 0:20:39.240 --> 0:20:42.160 or something, which he you know, probably owns the whole 0:20:42.200 --> 0:20:46.280 thing now. Used I used to laugh when the people 0:20:46.320 --> 0:20:48.800 that were so excited we tried to hug try to 0:20:48.880 --> 0:20:53.280 hug him, right, you know, and win something like stay 0:20:53.320 --> 0:20:58.640 away from me, people run down the aisle. Yeah right, hilarious. 0:20:58.720 --> 0:21:01.200 All right, So from camera in the conversation we had 0:21:01.200 --> 0:21:03.560 in the opening segment here, and we heard from Bucky 0:21:03.640 --> 0:21:07.440 there to the people making the decisions about Cam Robinson 0:21:07.440 --> 0:21:10.440 the headlines. Early last week at the Combine Well, Jack's 0:21:10.440 --> 0:21:13.240 owner Shot con was pausing the e v P search. 0:21:13.720 --> 0:21:15.679 He said he likes what he's seen so far with 0:21:15.720 --> 0:21:19.160 the organization between Peterson and Balky. Not that it won't 0:21:19.200 --> 0:21:22.320 be revisited later, but not right now. For the Jaguars. 0:21:22.359 --> 0:21:25.240 It's really just one last guy in the kitchen with 0:21:25.240 --> 0:21:27.840 the draft a month and a half away. That's my 0:21:27.960 --> 0:21:30.720 thought of it. Doug Peterson reacting to it on Radio 0:21:30.840 --> 0:21:33.879 Row last week. It means a lot. It means you know, 0:21:33.880 --> 0:21:36.359 it means the world that that he has the the 0:21:36.840 --> 0:21:38.520 we have this support, I should say, Trent and I 0:21:38.720 --> 0:21:41.679 and and uh you know and listen. It was it 0:21:41.760 --> 0:21:44.240 was a it was an evaluation process too. For for 0:21:44.240 --> 0:21:47.399 for shot, he he wanted to see how Trent and 0:21:47.400 --> 0:21:49.240 I would would work and get along for the last 0:21:49.280 --> 0:21:51.760 couple of weeks and just that and then just kind 0:21:51.760 --> 0:21:54.439 of going through the process too and coming to the 0:21:54.440 --> 0:21:58.120 fact and realization that, um, you know, he really supports 0:21:58.119 --> 0:21:59.880 Trent and I. And that's that's the part that makes 0:21:59.880 --> 0:22:01.960 you feel good that he's kind of turning some things 0:22:02.000 --> 0:22:04.040 over to us and and letting us, letting us run 0:22:04.040 --> 0:22:06.040 the football side of it. And and that's really what 0:22:06.119 --> 0:22:07.560 you want from a from a GM and a head 0:22:07.600 --> 0:22:09.600