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Speaker 1: Let's take a look at what's coming up on the
Speaker 1: show today. Speaking of it's Jeff Logan. Jaguars analyst Cam
Speaker 1: Robinson gets the franchise tag. What does that mean for
Speaker 1: the number one overall pick in the NFL Draft? In
Speaker 1: we'll get answers from Logs Future For d J. Chark Jr.
Speaker 1: We're a little less than a week away from the
Speaker 1: start of the new league year and free agency, but
Speaker 1: Chark has been working out with Trevor Lawrence. At least
Speaker 1: Tuesday was running rounds with him, according to Instagram, and
Speaker 1: some huge quarterback news around the NFL. Jeff Logman with us. Now,
Speaker 1: good afternoon, Jeff. What's up. It's all good, it's all
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Speaker 1: By the way, I heard you got franchise tagged me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know what the number is on that, but uh,
Speaker 1: that wasn't quite the in the listing. I'll say that
Speaker 1: big week, right, Yeah, franchise tag for Cam Robinson sixteen
Speaker 1: point six million guaranteed for one year if he signs
Speaker 1: the tender and the Jags and Robinson have until July
Speaker 1: fifteen to work on a long term term deal or
Speaker 1: he would play under that one year number. Yeah, they're
Speaker 1: just quicker on that. If I'm Cam Robinson, I'm probably
Speaker 1: just gonna go ahead and sign it because I think
Speaker 1: it's gonna end up being just like, very similar to
Speaker 1: last year. It's gonna be a one year deal and um,
Speaker 1: and I think it was the right thing to do.
Speaker 1: You think so, First of all, Kim Robinson is a
Speaker 1: is a solid, good football player, and I don't want
Speaker 1: anybody to have the impression because he got franchise that
Speaker 1: he's one of the best left tackles in football. That's
Speaker 1: that's not what he is. He's a good he's a
Speaker 1: good football player, which means that he's the middle of
Speaker 1: the pack that you know too. Sometimes maybe you know
Speaker 1: backward part of the middle part of the pack. But
Speaker 1: he's a he's a starter. He's a starter, and he's
Speaker 1: a starting caliber left tackle in this league. And those
Speaker 1: players are not cheap, and so you want to and
Speaker 1: when when you're a football team that hasn't won a
Speaker 1: lot of games in the last decade, you want to
Speaker 1: keep all the best players that you possibly can so
Speaker 1: that you're not trying to fill holes. I mean, you
Speaker 1: have enough holes to fill as it is already. That's
Speaker 1: why your record has been the worst in the National
Speaker 1: Football League two years in a row. You've got to
Speaker 1: concentrate on getting better. And the way that you get
Speaker 1: better is that you get better players. And and putting
Speaker 1: the tag on Cam Robinson is the right thing to do.
Speaker 1: Does it change any of your plan going forward in
Speaker 1: free agency and in the draft? I think free agency
Speaker 1: it might change a little bit of what you would do,
Speaker 1: because if you didn't tag him, you might end up
Speaker 1: looking at another option who uh goes by the last
Speaker 1: name of Armstead. Okay, to maybe play your left tackle position.
Speaker 1: It might cost you a little bit more money, more
Speaker 1: than more than sixteen point six huh. But from the
Speaker 1: standpoint of changing what you would do for the draft,
Speaker 1: I don't think it changes anything. Nothing, nothing. So they
Speaker 1: could still go with tackle at number one overall, absolutely
Speaker 1: and then let the new guy play somewhere else and
Speaker 1: then figure it out if Jonathan Ogden who who is?
Speaker 1: And you go back to this story which the Cleveland
Speaker 1: brown slash Baltimore Ravens, because that was the Tony Jones
Speaker 1: was the starting left tackle for the Cleveland Browns before
Speaker 1: the organization made the move to Baltimore. Tony Jones was
Speaker 1: one of the better left tackles in football, and so
Speaker 1: they drafted Jonathan Ogden. With Tony Jones still at the
Speaker 1: left tackle position. They allowed Tony Jones to continue to
Speaker 1: play left tackle. Ogden played left guard, which was funny
Speaker 1: is all get out watching a six eighth man get
Speaker 1: into a guards you know, stand. But he was really
Speaker 1: good even at guard. And then when Tony Jones moved on,
Speaker 1: then you had Jonathan Ogden to take over, and of
Speaker 1: course he had a Hall of Fame career. So can
Speaker 1: you play a draft pick at guard. Absolutely? Can you
Speaker 1: play maybe somebody else at guard that you already have
Speaker 1: on your roster, maybe the guy that you drafted pretty
Speaker 1: high last year. Absolutely. I think everything, everything is on
Speaker 1: the table. And I've had this before, I'll say it again,
Speaker 1: and it's just my own personal belief. It doesn't come
Speaker 1: from anywhere inside the football brains of this organization. But
Speaker 1: I am a believer that Cam Robinson can be one
Speaker 1: of the best right tackles in football. And I think
Speaker 1: he's built to play right tackle. And if you ended
Speaker 1: up drafting and left tackle, or you had Walker Little
Speaker 1: play left tackle, or you had the draft pick played
Speaker 1: left tackle, walker Little playing guard, I think that that
Speaker 1: would all be good for this football team. The better
Speaker 1: offensive line that you can put in front of Trevor Lawrence,
Speaker 1: the better your football team is gonna be, even if
Speaker 1: they happen to be all tackles by trade. Now, the
Speaker 1: rookies at Quanta Evan Neil both have played multiple positions
Speaker 1: throughout their careers. In college played guard before a Neil's
Speaker 1: third position and left tackles. Now like he started his
Speaker 1: career in college at left tackles, so they can't move
Speaker 1: around if and and uh and and here's the other thing.
Speaker 1: You need to create or competition for your offensive line
Speaker 1: because that's the only way you get better. The buff
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills just reported that they're gonna be letting go.
Speaker 1: I think it's Feliciano, who has been a starting guard
Speaker 1: for them. I think he would be a great pickup.
Speaker 1: You know. I think this football team needs more competition upfront.
Speaker 1: And Feliciano not only has he been a starter for
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills, but he's got an edge about him
Speaker 1: the way he plays the game. Bobby Wagner. Look, if
Speaker 1: I'm this football team, I'm on the phone with Bobby
Speaker 1: Wagner and his representation right now. I mean, you want
Speaker 1: to win, then let's bring in a guy who is
Speaker 1: one of the best players in all of football at
Speaker 1: the position and he plays and oh, by the way,
Speaker 1: you need a linebacker. Okay, Um, what's wrong with having
Speaker 1: a guy to help show the locker room what winning
Speaker 1: is all about, who's won a lot of games in
Speaker 1: his football career and as a total professional. Anything wrong
Speaker 1: on that? That doesn't sound like it to be No,
Speaker 1: why not, I mean, why not inquire about a guy
Speaker 1: like that? So, I mean a lot of these things
Speaker 1: that you can inquire. It takes two to tango though,
Speaker 1: absolutely absolutely, But you gotta make that phone call if
Speaker 1: you have if you had the mindset, because you know,
Speaker 1: this mindset has existed here in the past, and that
Speaker 1: the mindset sometimes can be well looked. We're building, we're
Speaker 1: building something here. You know, you know, we don't want
Speaker 1: to we don't want to use you know, bringing old
Speaker 1: guys for this football team because you know what, you know,
Speaker 1: when we get good, we want to make sure that
Speaker 1: we're you know, they're they're here to play. Darryl Smith,
Speaker 1: We're good. You know, along happen with Darryl Smith. That
Speaker 1: was back into Look, the football of today is not
Speaker 1: about okay, let's build to the future. I mean everybody
Speaker 1: tried to do that. This this organization tried to do
Speaker 1: it for years, building the future. And don't guess what,
Speaker 1: the future never came. I mean it came one year
Speaker 1: in seventeen. You've you've got to continue to try to
Speaker 1: put the best team on the field. And then you
Speaker 1: know what if you got a quarterback and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, you start putting some pieces in place, and
Speaker 1: then you get hot. You don't know what can happen,
Speaker 1: And so why not? Why not? And because a lot
Speaker 1: of people say, hey, you know he's too old. You know,
Speaker 1: Chandler Jones, eye, he's too old. Last time I checked.
Speaker 1: He's Chandler Jones and Bobby Wagner. We're still really good
Speaker 1: football players in this league, like lead the league and tackles. Again,
Speaker 1: he leads the league in tackles like every year, right,
Speaker 1: and he is I want to say, he's has some
Speaker 1: stat about and here's a guy who's an absolute tackling machine.
Speaker 1: His eighth straight Pro Bowl hundred seventy tackles a career
Speaker 1: high last season for Wagner. Okay, but here's the crazy
Speaker 1: thing about Bobby Wagner is that if you look at
Speaker 1: all the tackles that he makes year in and year out,
Speaker 1: and then you look at the number of miss tackles
Speaker 1: that he has, it's like nonexistent. So how in the
Speaker 1: world can a guy that makes that many tackles not
Speaker 1: miss a tackle every now and again? But Bobby Wagner
Speaker 1: doesn't miss tackles, which is crazy. And the Seahawks are
Speaker 1: moving on. You know Russell Wilson there, trading him and
Speaker 1: and Bobby Wagner can represent a lot of cap savings,
Speaker 1: and the Seahawks are committing to the future, I guess,
Speaker 1: and for complete rebuild. I mean, if I'm this football
Speaker 1: team here in Jacksonville right now, if I'm the Jaguars,
Speaker 1: I'm absolutely trying to find out about where Bobby Wagner
Speaker 1: is at, where a guy like Chandler Jones is at,
Speaker 1: because right now you need to start playing better football.
Speaker 1: More on free agency coming up in what the Jags
Speaker 1: could do at number one overall. After the tagging of
Speaker 1: Cam Robinson's Jaguars Happy Hour on Tinted Excel and Jaguars
Speaker 1: dot Com, J P Shadrick with Jeff Lagaman also this week,
Speaker 1: I don't I know you're a big social media guy,
Speaker 1: following to a t every single day You're following Twitter.
Speaker 1: I know that NonStop at logs five six because you
Speaker 1: always respond and retweet everybody. You're that you're that kind
Speaker 1: of guy all the time. Instagram is even more for you. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So DJ Chark Tuesday puts out an Instagram story is
Speaker 1: what they called. It's the video portion of the top
Speaker 1: and tell me about. It's him running a couple of
Speaker 1: routes with Trevor Lawrence throwing him the ball at Bishop
Speaker 1: Kinning High School. Well, free agency starts next week. DJ's
Speaker 1: coming off, of course, a fractured ankle, still trying to
Speaker 1: I think fully work his way back. But um, that's
Speaker 1: I think pretty notable with only a week to go
Speaker 1: before free agency. Notable from the standpoint of what he's
Speaker 1: with the quarterback. Does does that mean anything to you?
Speaker 1: Or is it just work together? Look, a quarterback would
Speaker 1: like to throw the ball to some people, a wide
Speaker 1: receiver would like to catch the ball. Couldn't see who
Speaker 1: else was out there in the video from some people.
Speaker 1: But my point is is that we're reading into this
Speaker 1: too much. I think, So does it mean anything? Oh?
Speaker 1: Come on, I mean to look at it's two guys
Speaker 1: that have a relationship, that both need to work at
Speaker 1: their craft, and here's an opportunity for them to throw
Speaker 1: the football together. I mean, what's wrong with that? What
Speaker 1: I'd personally like to see DJ Chark back with his
Speaker 1: football team. Absolutely, But also there's got to be a
Speaker 1: number to be considered. I mean, if you look at
Speaker 1: a DJ over the last three years, he's had one
Speaker 1: good year in the last other two years he's had
Speaker 1: production that has been down, and also he's been injured.
Speaker 1: So it's not like you can we gotta have DJ
Speaker 1: at all costs because he was thrown with Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 1: Gotta have him, gotta have him. No, but having if Trevor,
Speaker 1: if they asked, hey, Trevor, what do you think of DJ?
Speaker 1: You really want him around, He's gonna it's gonna say,
Speaker 1: I want I'd like to have one of them. I
Speaker 1: want to have them. You take that under consideration, though,
Speaker 1: as a decision as a quarterback, you your quarterback wants
Speaker 1: to throw to. You have to say that. As a quarterback,
Speaker 1: you gotta want to team comes you and says, hey,
Speaker 1: you know what, we got this guy right here, would
Speaker 1: you like throw You gotta say that as a quarterback,
Speaker 1: and especially if he's your current teammate, you got all.
Speaker 1: You always have to be in the corner of your
Speaker 1: current teammates, regardless if deep down you maybe rather throw
Speaker 1: to a different guy, but you always back your guys,
Speaker 1: and your guys are the ones that are under contract,
Speaker 1: that you have a relationship with and that you've bawd
Speaker 1: with before. You have to back them first. I wonder
Speaker 1: what you know if he gets out to the marketplace
Speaker 1: on Wednesday at four o'clock. What And that's when free
Speaker 1: agency start starts. Is next Wednesday at four o'clock, which
Speaker 1: the the the cheating period. When is that a Funday
Speaker 1: begin that's Monday at Monday and Tuesday and Wednesday And
Speaker 1: here we go, Yeah, so boast, there's gonna be a
Speaker 1: lot of deals that are are gonna be struck already
Speaker 1: before Wednesday at four o'clock and DJ and here's the reality.
Speaker 1: The conversations are already happening. Okay. It's that the people
Speaker 1: aren't waiting, the agents and the players and the teams
Speaker 1: are not waiting okay until this legal tampering period or
Speaker 1: the official start of free agency to talk numbers. They
Speaker 1: can sit there and say that they are all they want.
Speaker 1: It's no different than what there's been two trades that
Speaker 1: have been executed with Seattle Seahawks sending Russell Wilson to
Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos and then also Carson Wentz being sent
Speaker 1: to the Philadelphia Eagles. Okay, so you think they're having
Speaker 1: a conversation about trading these guys, right, But then not
Speaker 1: having conversations with maybe an agent who has a guy
Speaker 1: that's coming up for free agency. I mean, the combine
Speaker 1: was last week. Everybody's in the same city together, so yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, and if I'm passing by, if I'm d
Speaker 1: j RG, I'm going free agency. I mean, and I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to, you know, be negative in any way.
Speaker 1: But as a player, you always want to get to
Speaker 1: free agency. The the way that you can maximize your paycheck,
Speaker 1: your value is by getting to free agency. Okay, it's
Speaker 1: not negotiating with one, it's negotiating with at least two.
Speaker 1: Is where you can find how high this the limited?
Speaker 1: The sky is being the limit, so how high is
Speaker 1: the ceiling? Well, get to free agency, get a couple
Speaker 1: of teams that start bidding for your services. It's not
Speaker 1: being before or it's not before free agency with one
Speaker 1: team that you're talking with, and so look and and
Speaker 1: here's the thing, and it's that's the thing to do
Speaker 1: if you're dj And there's nothing wrong with allowing a
Speaker 1: player to get the free agency because sometimes a conversation
Speaker 1: that a team might be having where the player, the
Speaker 1: player might have and the agent might have and away
Speaker 1: overly inflated opinion of the value of the player, and
Speaker 1: so the team sometimes has to say, hey, look, we
Speaker 1: really like player X, your guy, we love them, but
Speaker 1: we're just we just we're just not comfortable at that number.
Speaker 1: So let's get the free agency and then let's kind
Speaker 1: of see where we're at, you know. So, I mean
Speaker 1: there's a couple approaches, and a lot of it is
Speaker 1: dependent upon where the team is at before free agency
Speaker 1: with a guy like DJ, and then also where DJ
Speaker 1: and his camp at is at before free agency exists,
Speaker 1: where their expectations are, and who else is out there
Speaker 1: in free agency too at the position. That's because there's
Speaker 1: always a peck and order and there's a value that's
Speaker 1: assigned in free agency to, you know, based upon who's available.
Speaker 1: You know, I'd love for this football team to be
Speaker 1: able to keep DJ, but if it doesn't happen, it's
Speaker 1: not the end of the world. Like I said, I
Speaker 1: think it was last week, you JP. Uh. Wide receiver
Speaker 1: is the one position that every year the draft has
Speaker 1: a bunch of them that come out, and I'm talking
Speaker 1: has a bunch of them that come out that are
Speaker 1: productive guys. That might be the most plentiful position year
Speaker 1: in and year out in the draft that there is.
Speaker 1: Can you think of another not quite like that? Because everybody,
Speaker 1: everybody's throwing the ball, and all the good athletes are
Speaker 1: somehow touching the ball, you know, through little league, et
Speaker 1: ceter It's not like they're grooming these great athletes that
Speaker 1: play left tackle or you know, play defensive van they
Speaker 1: touched the ball, and most of them are touching the
Speaker 1: ball as a quarterback or a wide receiver putting ahead, well,
Speaker 1: come back in just a moment here from Bucky Brooks
Speaker 1: will also take a look at the decision to not,
Speaker 1: at least right now go with an executive vice president
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Speaker 1: against Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. You
Speaker 1: want to weigh your options. If I have this player
Speaker 1: and that player, do I like that option better than Okay?
Speaker 1: I can take this draft pick and another player. So
Speaker 1: it's almost like, um, what's the claim price is right? Showcase?
Speaker 1: Show now ounity? Which one that you want? Um? You
Speaker 1: get you get to figure out which one that you
Speaker 1: wanted in And so that's what you're doing in the office.
Speaker 1: You're trying to figure out, Okay, what gives us the
Speaker 1: best opportunity to hit all the needs and all of
Speaker 1: the things that we must address for the best personnel.
Speaker 1: And obviously after doing the evaluation, Cam Robinson was in
Speaker 1: that picture. Because if you're Doug Peterson and you're trying
Speaker 1: to figure out what's the best way for us to
Speaker 1: get this role? And do I want to break in
Speaker 1: a newbie at Left Taco? Do I want to go
Speaker 1: with someone who may have some flaws because at least
Speaker 1: I know what those are, and we feel confident enough
Speaker 1: that maybe we can mask some of those efficiencies while
Speaker 1: getting the rest of the pieces of the puzzle. Right now,
Speaker 1: that is Bucky Brooks from a Huddle Up podcast yesterday,
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Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars. This show will be on the podcast network
Speaker 1: what It's over with, So if you're listening on the podcast. Well,
Speaker 1: you're hearing me promote the podcast you're listening to. Thank
Speaker 1: you for listening. J P. Shadrick with Jeff Lockerman. Glad
Speaker 1: you're along with us today. Plenty to get to. That's
Speaker 1: of course, Cam Robinson talk continues. Yeah, So, by by
Speaker 1: the way, what was everybody laughing with? Bucky said there
Speaker 1: and so he said, uh, it was one of four
Speaker 1: prices right references on the podcast. Yes, that one was
Speaker 1: the natural first one, and that a few that came
Speaker 1: after that. So showcase Showdown, you get to pick whichever
Speaker 1: one you want if you at the right. That's what
Speaker 1: he was referencing. Okay, now now I get it. Help
Speaker 1: control the pet population, have your pet spade and yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you, Bob, You're welcome. I guess it now it's Drew.
Speaker 1: I haven't watched it in a while. Okay, I know
Speaker 1: I knew that, but I haven't watched it and forever.
Speaker 1: I'm usually work at ten o'clock in the morning. He's
Speaker 1: got he's got this crazy hair do. Now really, I
Speaker 1: mean it compared to the Drew carry ball, but bark
Speaker 1: is still alive. I think, I don't know. That's a
Speaker 1: great question. Like he's like the super executive producer emeritus
Speaker 1: or something, which he you know, probably owns the whole
Speaker 1: thing now. Used I used to laugh when the people
Speaker 1: that were so excited we tried to hug try to
Speaker 1: hug him, right, you know, and win something like stay
Speaker 1: away from me, people run down the aisle. Yeah right, hilarious.
Speaker 1: All right, So from camera in the conversation we had
Speaker 1: in the opening segment here, and we heard from Bucky
Speaker 1: there to the people making the decisions about Cam Robinson
Speaker 1: the headlines. Early last week at the Combine Well, Jack's
Speaker 1: owner Shot con was pausing the e v P search.
Speaker 1: He said he likes what he's seen so far with
Speaker 1: the organization between Peterson and Balky. Not that it won't
Speaker 1: be revisited later, but not right now. For the Jaguars.
Speaker 1: It's really just one last guy in the kitchen with
Speaker 1: the draft a month and a half away. That's my
Speaker 1: thought of it. Doug Peterson reacting to it on Radio
Speaker 1: Row last week. It means a lot. It means you know,
Speaker 1: it means the world that that he has the the
Speaker 1: we have this support, I should say, Trent and I
Speaker 1: and and uh you know and listen. It was it
Speaker 1: was a it was an evaluation process too. For for
Speaker 1: for shot, he he wanted to see how Trent and
Speaker 1: I would would work and get along for the last
Speaker 1: couple of weeks and just that and then just kind
Speaker 1: of going through the process too and coming to the
Speaker 1: fact and realization that, um, you know, he really supports
Speaker 1: Trent and I. And that's that's the part that makes
Speaker 1: you feel good that he's kind of turning some things
Speaker 1: over to us and and letting us, letting us run
Speaker 1: the football side of it. And and that's really what
Speaker 1: you want from a from a GM and a head
Speaker 1: coach to to make those types of decision, not to
Speaker 1: say that we can't um you know, add I like
Speaker 1: to call it talent. You know, we do the same
Speaker 1: thing with the roster, and we can do the same
Speaker 1: thing with personnel. So, Jeff Flagman, what do you think
Speaker 1: about the decision and the reaction from the head coach? Well,
Speaker 1: for first off, I think if you have a structure
Speaker 1: to where the GM is over the coach, or the
Speaker 1: coaches over the GM, or you have something that's very
Speaker 1: clear that I think, then you don't need an e
Speaker 1: v P. But I think with the way that that
Speaker 1: this is set up to where you have a GM
Speaker 1: that reports to owner, and then you have a head
Speaker 1: coach that's hired by ownership too. That are kind of parallel,
Speaker 1: I guess you could say, on the on the flow
Speaker 1: chart and when you have an owner who's not here
Speaker 1: on a day to day basis. I'm a fan of
Speaker 1: having an e v P, and the reason why, I
Speaker 1: think is that you hold one person accountable and well worked.
Speaker 1: This way, Absolutely, it could work. This way could work brilliantly,
Speaker 1: and I think there's a lot of different ways to
Speaker 1: have success. My only concern is is that in the past,
Speaker 1: what has worked is when you've had an e v P.
Speaker 1: What hasn't worked is when you haven't had an e
Speaker 1: v P with Mr Connors being the owner. So, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm a fan of the e v P. It worked
Speaker 1: one year, correct, one year, right, and then how many
Speaker 1: years was Coughlin here? I think it was like three two, yeah,
Speaker 1: almost three, But the reality is that that was the
Speaker 1: best year you ever had and that was the year
Speaker 1: you had an e v P. So I'm just I'm
Speaker 1: a fan of the e v P and uh and
Speaker 1: I just believe that with with this organization, with where
Speaker 1: it's at and the lack of success that it has
Speaker 1: had for the past decade, that that's what this organization needs.
Speaker 1: So there's a month and a half to the draft.
Speaker 1: I mean, don't need it right now. Another person in
Speaker 1: that room too, you know. Brian Sexton said this on
Speaker 1: Jaguars Reporters the other day. They made a lot of sense.
Speaker 1: Why they're still trying to figure out each other, the quarterback,
Speaker 1: the offense, everything, Why at this point bring in another
Speaker 1: person into that whole scenario. They have to learn everything
Speaker 1: back over again, all all these interactions and conversations have
Speaker 1: to start over again. Well, I think that's assuming that
Speaker 1: that the e v P is going to insert, you know,
Speaker 1: him or herself into the conversation, and I think that's
Speaker 1: the wrong assumption. I think an e v P can
Speaker 1: just sit back and evaluate the performance of those two people,
Speaker 1: of the head coach and of the general manager, and
Speaker 1: then can also be a person that when you have
Speaker 1: h what's the term when you have a group decision,
Speaker 1: when you come to consensus, that that's just another person
Speaker 1: to add to consensus. And for example, they're talking about
Speaker 1: maybe adding an assistant general manager. Okay, well, what how
Speaker 1: would that be different from the executive vice president having
Speaker 1: maybe an input in there. I'm also not a big
Speaker 1: fan of adding an assistant general manager into that equation either,
Speaker 1: not when you have two people reporting directly to ownership,
Speaker 1: I'm not a big fan of having an assistant general
Speaker 1: manager and of that equation as well. I'll say I
Speaker 1: think that approach about the executive vice president role being
Speaker 1: involved and being there all the time is because Tom
Speaker 1: Coughlin was the most involved human you could ever have
Speaker 1: in that role. I think plays around and his hands
Speaker 1: around everything, and in some respects, I think there is
Speaker 1: you know somebody that, like Tom, had his hands all
Speaker 1: over the coaching aspect of it, but he didn't have
Speaker 1: his hands all over some other aspects of it. That's
Speaker 1: one extreme. I also think that you know, an executive
Speaker 1: vice president give an example last year which you know,
Speaker 1: here's a situation that didn't work last year because you
Speaker 1: had a lack of kind of communication going on. You know,
Speaker 1: we had a we had a scrimmage and television broadcast
Speaker 1: and and and you know that scrimmage didn't get put
Speaker 1: on television because there was a delay and a move
Speaker 1: of the schedule. Why. I think if there's it just
Speaker 1: facilitates to where everybody can row in the same direction.
Speaker 1: And so to speak, when you have somebody that's in
Speaker 1: that role and whether it's a an e v P
Speaker 1: or whether it's a an executive vice president with in communications,
Speaker 1: that's a link to football in the business side, because
Speaker 1: you know, the one thing that an organization has to
Speaker 1: have is that everybody has to be moving in the
Speaker 1: same direction, because football has to be able to work
Speaker 1: with with ticketing, with marketing, with public relations. I mean,
Speaker 1: all of that has to be able to work together.
Speaker 1: And I think that that there's different ways to achieve that,
Speaker 1: but there's a lot of I don't want to say
Speaker 1: there's different ways to achieve that. E v P is
Speaker 1: one way, but then also, you know, making sure that
Speaker 1: you have the structure of the structure of the organization
Speaker 1: set up properly. And and last year I think that
Speaker 1: some things got out of whack that we're kind of
Speaker 1: conceded with urban Meyer in the way that things were designed,
Speaker 1: and it didn't work for the organization. And I think
Speaker 1: there needs to be changed and some of it has
Speaker 1: already been instituted to make the organization back to where
Speaker 1: it should be. Row Row Row your boat seriously down
Speaker 1: the St John's look at football and a lot of
Speaker 1: people will sit there and say, well, look, if if
Speaker 1: you have a good football side of things and then
Speaker 1: and then you win, everything takes care of yourself. Yeah sure,
Speaker 1: I mean because the New England Patriots. But here's the reality.
Speaker 1: New England win. That's the whole point. Who have been
Speaker 1: incredibly successful over the years. They also have a business marketing,
Speaker 1: public relations. I mean, all the people that are kind
Speaker 1: of around football worked together with football to make sure
Speaker 1: that every thing is for the betterment and for the
Speaker 1: best thing for the franchise. And and last year things
Speaker 1: got changed a little bit when Urban was hired, and
Speaker 1: so things are going back to being a little bit
Speaker 1: more conventional as they should be, and we'll see where
Speaker 1: it goes. But look it to say that everything is
Speaker 1: working great right now, I think it's a little soon
Speaker 1: to make that evaluation because it's been three or four
Speaker 1: weeks March ten. Yeah, everybody is working and doing great
Speaker 1: at this time of year football seriously, yes, right, this
Speaker 1: is when it's supposed to be together and it's all
Speaker 1: you know, it's all gonna be great. The reality is
Speaker 1: that this is the easy time of year. There there
Speaker 1: is no challenges this time of year. The challenges begin
Speaker 1: when winning the losing is starting to be kept track of.
Speaker 1: And if you're not winning, then okay, well then things
Speaker 1: get challenging. Okay, well then how are you doing that?
Speaker 1: Because that's when it gets difficult and this is not
Speaker 1: an easy game. Win. That's when it goes on your
Speaker 1: permanent record, and that's when jobs are one and lost,
Speaker 1: and that's when it gets real for sure, Los. I
Speaker 1: know you're excited for the daily play schedule coming up.
Speaker 1: I'm always excited. I like I like a live music,
Speaker 1: a lot of great shows. I saw a live show
Speaker 1: the other day. Really I was I went out to
Speaker 1: the players and I pray Kelsey Ballerina Ballerini and she
Speaker 1: was fantastic, very nice. So you're you're often running on
Speaker 1: your concert sched Yeah, I'm I'm I'm big well coming
Speaker 1: up Brothers Osborne April eight, Little Dirk April nineteenth, Tim
Speaker 1: McGraw on May five, Erica Badoo on May six, Goody
Speaker 1: Mob is gonna be there too, and then two nights
Speaker 1: of the Luminears May seventeenth and eighteenth. Yeah, see yeah,
Speaker 1: and two nights of them. That's that's a really good show.
Speaker 1: There Daily's Place dot com for more information. And that's
Speaker 1: not all. There's plenty ahead in June and July already.
Speaker 1: If you could go to one of those, if you
Speaker 1: had your choice to go one of them, would you
Speaker 1: pick Timmergrawl? You know, I've never been to any of them,
Speaker 1: so maybe a Luminear show. I've never seen them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: did come down to Tim mcgrawl or lumin me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'd probably picked the lumin Ears, you know, just just
Speaker 1: because it's a little something different. Yeah, yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: they're all. It's obviously a fantastic venue, so check it out.
Speaker 1: The weather, you know, not great this weekend so far,
Speaker 1: but hey it's covered. You got a roof there, don't
Speaker 1: worry about that rain or shine shows at Daily's Place.
Speaker 1: Plenty ahead. We're back in a moment. Well, lives are
Speaker 1: gonna tell You're gonna tell us what the Jags will
Speaker 1: do at number one. Overall, we're gonna get an answer
Speaker 1: out of it. We're gonna hear from Trim Balky and
Speaker 1: CBS sports analyst Charles Davis. And this is Jaguars Happy
Speaker 1: Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. Our goal is to
Speaker 1: win football games. But we're gonna do it one player,
Speaker 1: one coach, one person in the organization at the time.
Speaker 1: And to our fans, listen, I know you've been through
Speaker 1: a lot. You've been through a lot, but that's about
Speaker 1: to change. I'm not gonna settle for anything less than
Speaker 1: a championship caliber championship caliber team. Is a preview of
Speaker 1: The Hunt. It airs tonight's seven o'clock on the Jaguars
Speaker 1: YouTube channel. Episode one. Yeah, I think it's gonna be
Speaker 1: really really. First of all, the the original The Hunt
Speaker 1: which was last year with with Urban Meyer and not
Speaker 1: to have. First of all, it was outstanding as far
Speaker 1: as the amount of acts years ago ago, started two
Speaker 1: years ago, but last year they had it also right,
Speaker 1: but the amount of access that they were allowed to
Speaker 1: have in the behind the look, I mean that that's
Speaker 1: the kind of stuff that you want to watch, you know,
Speaker 1: to feel like you're getting a glimpse into the inner
Speaker 1: workings of a franchise and your team. And I think
Speaker 1: it's awesome and it takes a lot of what's the
Speaker 1: right word. It takes a lot of commitment from people
Speaker 1: that do do the actual filming, etcetera. And then go
Speaker 1: through all of it and then also to be able
Speaker 1: to get it approved and then also the access that
Speaker 1: has to be allowed from the coach, the general manager, etcetera.
Speaker 1: It's cool stuff. Yeah, I mean it's a two way street.
Speaker 1: And yeah, give those guys across the hall of the
Speaker 1: football side a lot of credit because they're opening the
Speaker 1: doors and opening us a little bit and which is
Speaker 1: cool to see. It's not access that I can. I'll
Speaker 1: watch them, right, and it's really it's absolutely watch them.
Speaker 1: There'll be a number of episodes throughout the off season
Speaker 1: building up to training camp in the start of the
Speaker 1: regular season, so check them out on Jaguars dot com
Speaker 1: when the archive and live on YouTube. Well. And one
Speaker 1: thing that will help that the NFL has dropped all
Speaker 1: of the COVID protocols, which is the probably some of
Speaker 1: the biggest news that we haven't talked about yet. I
Speaker 1: the other day actually met last year's first round running
Speaker 1: back in person for the first time. Yeah. What a
Speaker 1: nice guy. And he's he's in great shape, he's confident,
Speaker 1: he's moving around, he's eager and ready to get But
Speaker 1: interactions like that you haven't had in two years. I
Speaker 1: haven't been able to. I met Jamal ag knew the
Speaker 1: other day exactly like I didn't see him last year.
Speaker 1: That's that's how it's been. And I and I got
Speaker 1: I got a chance to meet et N last year
Speaker 1: because he was hurt, and then maybe I violated a
Speaker 1: protocol I don't know by talking with him. But but
Speaker 1: I mean now that that all of the protocols have
Speaker 1: essentially been dropped, I mean it's now maybe we get
Speaker 1: back to a little bit of normalcy from our standpoint,
Speaker 1: which also will help from the fan access standpoint because
Speaker 1: now some of the things that you normally get this
Speaker 1: or have seen in the past, you'll be able to
Speaker 1: see some of them again. Let's hear from Jaguars General
Speaker 1: manager Trent Balky at the combine last week. The Jaguars,
Speaker 1: of course have the number one overall pick, and the question,
Speaker 1: at least when he was standing on the podium, is
Speaker 1: is it possible that you make the pick or trade out. Well,
Speaker 1: you're always open for business now, whether you're gonna be
Speaker 1: able to move it or we're gonna be able to
Speaker 1: move it or not. But we're very comfortable taking the
Speaker 1: pick as well. You know, you've got to be prepared
Speaker 1: for anything in this league. So to say we won't
Speaker 1: shop it is probably uh not correct, But to say
Speaker 1: we will is probably not either. So we're gonna see
Speaker 1: what comes and if if something comes our way and
Speaker 1: it makes sense to us, will make that decision at
Speaker 1: that time. Trader Trent. He has a little bit of
Speaker 1: a track record of dealing some players pre draft back
Speaker 1: in San Francisco and his days there, but never the
Speaker 1: number one pick. A little different this year. There's not
Speaker 1: really a top tier quarterback, elite quarterback prospect that you
Speaker 1: see a lot of times that teams are clamoring to
Speaker 1: move up to try to get that. Said, if you
Speaker 1: had that, you'd be sitting perfect, absolutely right, because you're not.
Speaker 1: You're not sitting perfect because of that situation. I mean,
Speaker 1: in a perfect scenario, because you already have Trevor Lawrence,
Speaker 1: there would be a clear cut quarterback at the top
Speaker 1: of the draft, and there's a number of teams right
Speaker 1: now that would be willing to give up a king's
Speaker 1: ransom to be able to get a franchise type quarterback
Speaker 1: in the draft, and so that would be the perfect scenario,
Speaker 1: but that doesn't exist. The top players at the draft
Speaker 1: are essentially the edge rushers, and left tackles. So what
Speaker 1: does that mean for you? You could still potentially trade back,
Speaker 1: but you're not going to get the hall of draft
Speaker 1: picks that a quarterback would give to you or allow
Speaker 1: you to get. So do you consider it, Well, you
Speaker 1: have to consider it, but you would have to kind
Speaker 1: of change the mindset of what it would be worth
Speaker 1: because it's not a quarterback. If you're going to trade back,
Speaker 1: you would have to settle for less than a quarterback
Speaker 1: ransom because quarterback ran what a couple of first rounders usually.
Speaker 1: So do you still consider it? Absolutely? Yeah, absolutely open
Speaker 1: for business? He said, well, you have you have to
Speaker 1: be in and you don't. You wouldn't want to go
Speaker 1: so far back that you would fall out of what
Speaker 1: would be the top three, four, five, somewhere in that range.
Speaker 1: And could somebody want to move up to get that
Speaker 1: tops pick? Maybe? I think it's gonna be interesting to watch,
Speaker 1: but my guess is is that nobody's gonna be willing
Speaker 1: to pay the price to move up for that spot.
Speaker 1: The Jaguars end up picking up one. Okay, then general
Speaker 1: manager Jeff Logerman, it's March ten, who are the Jaguars
Speaker 1: picking at number one overall? Right now, film behind j
Speaker 1: G M. Jeff here behind. If I was a GM,
Speaker 1: I would be way behind. I'm just saying, but in
Speaker 1: this exercise, you're the general manager and you're behind. But
Speaker 1: we need to pick from you right now. I'll let
Speaker 1: you know that pick next week. Wait a minute, that's
Speaker 1: next week. I can tell you that, uh, the defensive end, Aiden,
Speaker 1: the left tackle from Alabama, which is your guy? JP?
Speaker 1: I mean looked Aiden Hutchinson is his name? Defensive end? Yes,
Speaker 1: and his dad played pro ball. Right away. For a
Speaker 1: minute there, I was like, is that Steve Hutchinson's son,
Speaker 1: Because I mean, sometimes names kind of stick in your mind.
Speaker 1: But he's a He's a heck of a player. He's
Speaker 1: got a lot of numbers to support where he's been
Speaker 1: at and got great motor. The the other defensive end,
Speaker 1: from what I understand, didn't exactly endear himself to folks
Speaker 1: at the combine. Thibodeau correct from Oregon. He said he
Speaker 1: was he wanted to be Jadeveon Clowney. I don't know
Speaker 1: if that's a great comparison. Well, I think he didn't
Speaker 1: finish some of the drills, from what I understand, done
Speaker 1: only a few of them and then stopped. Yeah, it's that.
Speaker 1: That's not a good look. That's not a good look.
Speaker 1: But it's not you know, if he had a legitimate
Speaker 1: reason to to to stop, then maybe it was a
Speaker 1: smart decision. But I think it's gonna be interesting. And
Speaker 1: there's a lot of players at the top, and from
Speaker 1: from reading all the experts opinions, they say that this
Speaker 1: draft is a very deep draft, and that's a good
Speaker 1: thing because this football team has a large number of
Speaker 1: holes to fill at multiple positions. A lot of picks too,
Speaker 1: Not a lot of them in the sixth round, but
Speaker 1: a lot of picks. Yeah you got. You gotta try
Speaker 1: to find a way to trade some of those to
Speaker 1: move up because six round picks a lot of times
Speaker 1: are just they haven't been very worthy. You mentioned Aiden
Speaker 1: Hutchinson and last week on Radio Row at the NFL
Speaker 1: Scott and Combine, CBS Sports and NFL Network analyst Charles
Speaker 1: Davis sat down with Ashland Sullivan and John Osier and
Speaker 1: gave his assessment of the Michigan defensive end. When I
Speaker 1: watch Aiden Hutchinson play and we start comping things, I'm
Speaker 1: very careful about not just trying to stereotype this player.
Speaker 1: He's a high motor, try hard. Look, this kid's technical
Speaker 1: aspects with hands reminds me of the Bosa brothers in
Speaker 1: a bigger way because that's where they win. There are
Speaker 1: such technicians and everything they do and then, oh, by
Speaker 1: the way, they're tremendous athletes. People forget that because we
Speaker 1: always want a stereotype, different path rushers and is he
Speaker 1: twitchy enough? We went through that with Joey Bosa. I
Speaker 1: remember him coming out in the draft Proop like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, maybe he's maybe instead have a double digit?
Speaker 1: Is he only a six to eight? He's a double
Speaker 1: digit right, and he's a pro bowler. Every year Nick
Speaker 1: Bosa came back off the knee injury, he was double
Speaker 1: digit sacks this year. I think Adan Hudges is the
Speaker 1: same type of a player. Charles Davis one of the
Speaker 1: really great analysts in the game on Sundays, certainly in
Speaker 1: now NFL Network leading into the draft, and that's just
Speaker 1: thought of of Hutchinson, Who's yeah, I want to see
Speaker 1: that a lot. I want to see that. I want
Speaker 1: to see Hutchinson with my own eyes before I start
Speaker 1: comparing him to the Bosa brothers, because I can tell
Speaker 1: you this when when you when you watched the Bosa Brothers,
Speaker 1: there was nobody that that I remember coming out in
Speaker 1: the last decade that had the technical aspect of the
Speaker 1: game down like the Boasta Brothers. So to say that
Speaker 1: he's comparing them to the boast Of Brothers and I
Speaker 1: was trying to say, I don't want to compare them,
Speaker 1: but he was okay, But I'm trying to say he
Speaker 1: was and but he was okay. That's that's pretty Uh,
Speaker 1: that's pretty lofty stuff. The one guy that that I
Speaker 1: remember watching and is the defensive end for Cleveland Browns
Speaker 1: Jason Garrettles Garrett. I mean, so he's yeah, that's a
Speaker 1: different guy when when you watched him, there was not
Speaker 1: even a question that he was worthy of the first
Speaker 1: pick of the draft. I mean it wasn't even close.
Speaker 1: And so is Aidan Hutchinson at that level? I don't
Speaker 1: think so. Uh. And and I gotta watch a lot
Speaker 1: more on it. I've only watched just you know, the
Speaker 1: little highlight kind of stuff. But we need you to
Speaker 1: dig into the film a film. Are you gonna do that?
Speaker 1: And this stuff? It's always my March thing. Jaguars, Okay,
Speaker 1: in March well it's March tenth. I know. That's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Okay, it's time to start making I mean,
Speaker 1: come on, the drafts coming up. We need answers. The
Speaker 1: draft is win. You got a lot of excuses the draft.
Speaker 1: We want answers. By the way, JP, if you were
Speaker 1: if you were picking, okay, who are you taking? There's
Speaker 1: two top tackles. Kana is the guy from NC States.
Speaker 1: The more I read about him, he had a really
Speaker 1: good combine. Who are you taking? Homer? I don't know.
Speaker 1: Neil looked pretty Uh, he didn't work out the other
Speaker 1: day at the combine. He's waiting for his pro day.
Speaker 1: Why why didn't he work out? Well, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't I didn't ask him. Well, I'm asking are
Speaker 1: you gonna? Would you knock him? Would you give him
Speaker 1: a negative? Merit? Would you give him a negative for
Speaker 1: not working out? The company doesn't get a gold star anymore,
Speaker 1: so you would you would mark him. I didn't say that.
Speaker 1: You said, no, I'm asking you. I'm answering you. That's
Speaker 1: not an answer. No, he's fine. You know. The more
Speaker 1: I see Kwanu and some of that stuff, that's cool.
Speaker 1: I'm down with that. Okay, I'm down with that. I'm cool.
Speaker 1: Next seven pancakes last year, Well, that's some great amounts.
Speaker 1: It's March tenth. I'm with you, your Alabama guy. You
Speaker 1: should be able to spit out all kinds of things,
Speaker 1: facts and figures and factorys about the guy guys really good,
Speaker 1: making a case for him being number one overall. Question
Speaker 1: and ask you a question? Hit me okay if you okay,
Speaker 1: because I know you're an Alabama guy. You always say that. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: you watch every Alabama game? Is everyone if I can
Speaker 1: deev art and then watch it later. It depends Cama
Speaker 1: Robinson or this young man at Alabama now who's gotta
Speaker 1: higher sailing, higher ceiling. Probably the guy coming out right
Speaker 1: now because we've seen what Cam is, and Cam is
Speaker 1: very good. Okay, but I think this guy has a
Speaker 1: little brings up a great point. Okay, in the long run, absolutely,
Speaker 1: because what Cam is is a one year tag. So
Speaker 1: are you looking to have a left tackle to protect
Speaker 1: the franchise quarterback for a one year a one year basis?
Speaker 1: Are you looking for somebody to protect him for his career?
Speaker 1: Excellent point? And so I mean that's that's got to
Speaker 1: be something that you think about when you think about, Okay,
Speaker 1: do I draft a left tackle or do I draft
Speaker 1: this pass rusher from Michigan who's the highest rated edge rusher,
Speaker 1: but he doesn't have the freakish skill set of a
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett. It's an interesting conversation and we'll have weeks
Speaker 1: upon weeks to delve into it a little bit more.
Speaker 1: We'll return with massive quarterback news around the NFL logs,
Speaker 1: and I mean massive, a lot of draft picks flying around.
Speaker 1: I think one of the most interesting things was the
Speaker 1: response by Aaron Rodgers after not being the topic of
Speaker 1: conversation them of of quarterbacks in Denver, Aaron Rodgers, and
Speaker 1: he he likes to be talked about, you think. And
Speaker 1: if he's not being talked about, he likes to make
Speaker 1: himself or to insert himself so that he can be told.
Speaker 1: Guess what We're gonna talk about it when we come back.
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Speaker 1: of the three training camp, were told welcome back j P. Shadrick.
Speaker 1: With Jeff Lagaman, we go around the night fell We
Speaker 1: start though, with some breaking news just moments ago, Ian
Speaker 1: Rappaport of NFL Network saying, at least according to sources,
Speaker 1: the Bears are closing in on a trade of pass
Speaker 1: rusher Khalil Mack, trying to send him to the Los
Speaker 1: Angeles Chargers and exchange for prime draft pick compensation. Khalil
Speaker 1: Mack one of those guys we were talking about, um
Speaker 1: the guy in Cleveland, of course, UM pensive end Miles Garrett.
Speaker 1: We're talking about defensive ends here. Well, I mean he's
Speaker 1: right in that wheelhouse. Kalil mac can play. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: a he's a good football player. I was pretty surprised
Speaker 1: when he was traded to begin with, but that would
Speaker 1: be uh, pretty big acquisition. For for a team in
Speaker 1: l A that's looking to create a little bit of
Speaker 1: star power of their own right in that stadium. Compared
Speaker 1: to the other team, they don't have a lot of
Speaker 1: star power. But Khalil Mack once again, you know, we
Speaker 1: were talking earlier about the amount of draft picks that
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz has been traded for in his career. Khalil
Speaker 1: mac is starting to get right out there. If this,
Speaker 1: you know, goes through, He's starting to approach the Carson
Speaker 1: went stuff. Good point. Speaking of the massive quarterback news, well,
Speaker 1: three quarterbacks in the well, three big time named quarterbacks
Speaker 1: in the news this week. Aaron Rodgers staying with the Packers,
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson will be traded to the Broncos. Carson Wentz
Speaker 1: traded to the Washington Commanders. I said, mistakenly earlier Philly
Speaker 1: meant to say Washington had the right conference, in the
Speaker 1: right division vision, but the right team he was with
Speaker 1: the start his career. I wouldn't trade for Carson Wentz,
Speaker 1: you would not, absolutely not. I thought his performance down
Speaker 1: the stretch last year was dismal. I'll tell you this.
Speaker 1: So I get off the plane in Indianapolis at the combine,
Speaker 1: I get in the Uber to go to the hotel.
Speaker 1: I have a Jaguar shirt on the Uber driver. This
Speaker 1: is ten o'clock at night. Is like you guys rectus
Speaker 1: in Week eighteen, like Colts Fan whatever and the whole organizations,
Speaker 1: like everybody. His mind is just messed up right now.
Speaker 1: And a few people I talked to around Indie Media
Speaker 1: Center fans, it's the same narrative the whole time, and
Speaker 1: now you're seeing it. I mean, Carson Wentz played awful
Speaker 1: in that game in Week eighteen. He's gonna played just
Speaker 1: awful in that game. In the games that were prior
Speaker 1: to the game here, he was also awful. When you
Speaker 1: go back and you look at his performance at critical
Speaker 1: junctures of the season and of games, is when he
Speaker 1: was at his worst. And that's a problem. That's a problem.
Speaker 1: And for the longest time, many people thought that Frank
Speaker 1: Wright was the perfect marriage and it was gonna get
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz back to be in one of this magical
Speaker 1: young great quarterbacks who was gonna be, you know, one
Speaker 1: of the great ones in the league. And that's not happening.
Speaker 1: I can tell you this why I wouldn't trade for him,
Speaker 1: because Frank Wright knows him better than anybody else, and
Speaker 1: if he's willing to trade them for essentially a third
Speaker 1: round pick. I mean, look, I understand that that the
Speaker 1: Washington football team. What is it now that they're the Commanders.
Speaker 1: Commanders now, okay, don't have a quarterback for the most part,
Speaker 1: but why would you want to have him? So they
Speaker 1: took the whole salary to about that million rights for
Speaker 1: a guy that when it comes to crunch time, here's
Speaker 1: lunches up in a little pieces. It may not have
Speaker 1: been Frank Reich's final call in Indie. The way things
Speaker 1: work in Indiana, Oh trust me, Frank was on board
Speaker 1: with that. JP. That ain't a general manager only call.
Speaker 1: Everybody's in the hot seat all the time. It feels
Speaker 1: like I can tell you that that's a that's a
Speaker 1: consensus decision right there. And when Frank saw his boy
Speaker 1: wet his pants last season, that was all she wrote.
Speaker 1: Good night and good luck um. By the way, a
Speaker 1: f C quarterbacks now a true arms race pun intended,
Speaker 1: of course, a f C East Mac Jones to a
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson, Josh Allen, the South, Trevor Ryan, Tannehill Houston
Speaker 1: and Indie TB d the North Borough Jackson, Mayfield, Pittsburgh's
Speaker 1: trying to figure it out, the West Mahomes, Wilson, Carr, Herbert.
Speaker 1: What that might be the best division in the a
Speaker 1: f C South might be the worst. I mean it
Speaker 1: is only March ten. There's just I'm just telling you
Speaker 1: the AFC South right now is the might be the
Speaker 1: worst division. So my point is, is it with Trevor
Speaker 1: this team has a great opportunity to make some very
Speaker 1: quick games because the rest of the teams in this
Speaker 1: division are lacking. All right, that's our show. Well, it's
Speaker 1: good to see it. It's all by the way, get
Speaker 1: on the film and watch the over. March is almost over.
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