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Speaker 2: All right, we're back live from the Listco Resource Well

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Speaker 2: Vegas Baby Club five twenty Live on location, special special guests.

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Speaker 2: To my left, we're gonna introduce my man's last. To

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Speaker 2: my far left, we got my dog Bishop be hearing

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Speaker 2: out the praiar Lee.

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Speaker 1: How you would nasty, cool and nasty.

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Speaker 3: Let's get to it out.

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Speaker 1: Think how you feeling? Man?

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Speaker 2: You know I'm saying Vegas I took a toll on us,

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Speaker 2: but we've been going. We've been trapping out here. This

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Speaker 2: is our fifth day. Vegas been good to us. You

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Speaker 2: know it's time of slide though. For sure we're talking

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Speaker 2: before the show. You in Vegas longer than forty eight hours?

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Speaker 2: You living real wicked? Tillout right?

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Speaker 1: My dog young Nacho Young t How you were man?

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Speaker 3: Man, I'm chilling. Bro. We got an o g in

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Speaker 3: a building.

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Speaker 1: All right, Bro, we're trying to get him on the show.

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Speaker 3: Four minutes.

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Speaker 1: That should be a good man.

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Speaker 2: We've been about to shoutut to camp help making this happen.

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Speaker 2: Shout out to the team and hey, look the Botty

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Speaker 2: Door series. It is for real, for real. We all

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Speaker 2: been bout the last couple of days for show about

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Speaker 2: the door. I don't the rest of my stuff packed, bro,

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Speaker 2: I ain't even about for sure, Amember till my left.

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Speaker 2: We got an NBA legend. We got my man, a

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Speaker 2: pioneer head of his game, but how he played in

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Speaker 2: the NBA, the Max That Podcast. We got the O

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Speaker 2: g Vernon Maxwell, Big Dog. Appreciate you sliding on this man, Man.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate y'all having me. Man. I can't wait to do

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Speaker 1: this ship. I've been wondering why you niggas took so

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Speaker 1: long to get me on this motherfucker Man, I don't

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Speaker 1: know what the fuck y'all been doing.

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Speaker 3: What's been the hold up?

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Speaker 1: Though? I don't know you niggas Chris's motherfucker. I got them.

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Speaker 1: Y'all did damn hundred shows, one hundred of motherfucker one

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Speaker 1: I suppost have been in the top five. What the

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Speaker 1: fuck are we doing?

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Speaker 3: You're kicking off the new season?

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Speaker 1: Man? Okay, well a number one?

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Speaker 3: My god, show man.

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Speaker 4: Listen.

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Speaker 2: Maybe we try to get you Indiana, but you be

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Speaker 2: treating Indiana like you tall man.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, the motherfuckers a lot of muffle. They

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Speaker 1: ain't got a lot of internet, you know, So you

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Speaker 1: got to that Utah ship. The motherfuckers. That's a whole

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Speaker 1: nother motherfucker people. Their motherfucker's black ass motherfucker here. You

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Speaker 1: know we I mean, but if you want me to

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Speaker 1: elaborate about them motherfuckers. But like I was talking to

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Speaker 1: these guys today, I did a podcast earlier today with

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Speaker 1: some guys, they from Utah, and they was like, ask me, Max, damn, man,

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Speaker 1: why are you so on you talk? Man? You motherfucker

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Speaker 1: y'all so weird. Motherfucker's got four five wives, and ship

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Speaker 1: Mormon asked, who do that? I wish I could. I'm

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Speaker 1: a single motherfucker. I wish I have motherfucker four women

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Speaker 1: in the one house at one time. Mitch, that's your

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Speaker 1: day is Monday, and BET's your day is Tuesday. And

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Speaker 1: that's your day is Wednesday, and Bess your day is Thursday.

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Speaker 1: So I want to do that. Yes, your damn, I

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Speaker 1: ain't got nobody. Don't nobody want my so because I

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Speaker 1: ain't worth to be warned. I want to be out there.

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Speaker 1: That's where I want to live. I'm getting ready to

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Speaker 1: move out there. Hey, you're gonna have boy. You know,

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Speaker 1: I keep telling you, motherfucker, it's different out there.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 1: The mountains. Jeff, No, you're flying the goddamn you talk.

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Speaker 1: You flying too a little hole. It's a little hole

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Speaker 1: in that motherfucker. That's where Carl Malone should drive that

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Speaker 1: motherfucker eighteen wheeler in the games. And I said, damn,

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Speaker 1: what taka pulling up an eighteen hat a fucking basketball game?

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Speaker 1: What makes sense? Now?

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Speaker 3: Carl got a word.

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Speaker 1: Case was around, Well, Car, I love you boy, I

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Speaker 1: that ship that just said we had the same age.

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Speaker 1: I fuck with you. Remember Max didn't say that ship hey.

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Speaker 1: But no, Carl, you pulled up in there with that

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Speaker 1: He pulled a whole team willerd in the goddamn down

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Speaker 1: there with a bus. Well, I was like, man, who

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Speaker 1: I don't know, man, It's just weird. That's my mind.

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Speaker 1: That's why I say all the time. All my boys

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Speaker 1: they know Cam Junior. All my people's know, I ain't

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Speaker 1: got nobody, don't want nobody. I just want to hang

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Speaker 1: something in somebody crazy. But we got to talk about it.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, you know how polarized you are off the court,

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Speaker 2: but you are a pioneer your game back in the day.

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Speaker 2: Now you see everybody coming in and don't nobody shoot

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Speaker 2: nothing but threes. But like that was how you hung

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Speaker 2: your hat early on audio defense housing. Now to see

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Speaker 2: the game transition to where everybody got to shoot that

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Speaker 2: and you was a special that because I know a

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Speaker 2: couple of years in a row you was like you

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Speaker 2: led the league and made threes.

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Speaker 1: Oh boy, that's a great question. Oh man, yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: Now shit, I'll be a three hundred million dollar motherfucker

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Speaker 1: like these young boys out here, Tatum and and Brown.

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Speaker 1: I'll be one of them motherfuckers. Ship, yeah, because that's

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Speaker 1: all that's what the games went to. Now. They want

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Speaker 1: motherfuckers to shoot. They want a lot of scoring and

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Speaker 1: make it exciting. And they got the big guys out

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Speaker 1: there in the way of the goddamn guards shooting threes

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Speaker 1: and Ship and all this bullshit. Well it's cool, though,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't really like the game the way

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Speaker 1: the game's being played right now, but I respect the

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Speaker 1: game and I respect what these young boys are doing.

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Speaker 1: And I was, I really love the money they they're

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Speaker 1: fucking getting. God damn, well I couldn't get done that. Damn,

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Speaker 1: this ship is fucked up. There's some fun dumb shit, yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: I mean for real, man, for real though, I mean, goddamn, man,

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Speaker 1: you can aage fucking fourteen points and you got damn

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Speaker 1: get eighty million. Man, goddamn man, goddamn nigga, I aage

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Speaker 1: eighteen a night. Goddamn damn, I can't damn, Oh my goodness,

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Speaker 4: But they're amazing how the game grown up from like

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Speaker 4: like even from when I played, like to see the

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Speaker 4: it was like, damn, eight million was good, But now

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Speaker 4: like eight million is like the bottom.

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Speaker 1: That's that's like the bottom of the total. But to

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Speaker 1: see it grow, yeah, well, you know, the these TV

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Speaker 1: deals that's where the money come at. Now they got

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Speaker 1: and they get a bigger deal getting ready to come down.

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Speaker 1: So served find to get absurd. So I mean, I mean,

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Speaker 1: the TV deals is crazy, man, So that's why they're

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Speaker 1: I ain't mad at him because Doctor J came in

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Speaker 1: before me, and and I'm sure Doctor Jay was like, damn,

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Speaker 1: how Max was making more of motherfucking money I made,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Doctor J. I wasn't my

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Speaker 1: Jordan's you know, God, you know I love Michael Jordans,

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Speaker 1: but you know what he'd done and competitive and we

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Speaker 1: competed against each other. But doctor J was my guy.

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Speaker 1: And I'm like saying, damn, Doctor J probably saying the

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Speaker 1: same damn thing I'm saying right now about these young guys.

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Speaker 1: Damn these young guys. I'll bust these motherfuckers, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean? And what it's the TV deals and

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Speaker 1: I get it, and I understand where it's coming from.

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Speaker 1: So and I'm I'm happy for it. So, shit, I

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Speaker 1: got a son, I got two sons coming up. Shit.

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Speaker 1: I hope one of the motherfuckers get some of this

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Speaker 1: motherfucker bag or what they call it, a bag of

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Speaker 1: bread whatever the they call it, like chicken man.

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Speaker 2: And it's crazy, Like you're talking about how he was

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Speaker 2: playing games involved, Now what's interesting you talk about TV

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Speaker 2: deals and like, I think, I hope it doesn't come

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Speaker 2: to an end, but it's kind of what it's looking

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Speaker 2: like your teammate Kenny Smith, like, for what they did,

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Speaker 2: I think that more people need to pay attention to

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Speaker 2: how inside the NBA helped perpetuate that. I know that's

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Speaker 2: not the only thing about that, but the wait that

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Speaker 2: they covered the game, especially today's my era with social media,

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Speaker 2: they helped project a lot of people to have their

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Speaker 2: own brands or own rebuttals to do stuff like this.

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Speaker 2: How was that to see him go from your teammates

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Speaker 2: to see what he's doing.

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Speaker 1: Now, well, I already told that motherfucker. You know Kenny

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Speaker 1: and my nigga, you know, I love you boy. I

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Speaker 1: told him, I said that's what he was going to

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Speaker 1: and so well, you know, he's so educated and shit,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But I told him, nigga,

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Speaker 1: us a decent I'm sorry, Kenny was a great faultfler.

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Speaker 1: I have to take that to this motherfucker because I

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Speaker 1: know he's gonna see this shit. But yeah, but Ken

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Speaker 1: was a great ballplayer. But you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: But I always said to Kenny, I knew he was

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Speaker 1: that shit. What he's doing with TNT, I mean it's

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's great. I mean I'd love to see

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Speaker 1: be like, God, Damn, Kenny, why you put me in

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Speaker 1: this ship. I'm over here smoking this guy Damn Blunt

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Speaker 1: over here getting high and you got me and this ship. Man,

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Speaker 1: I'm just watching you, nigga what we're talking about? Kidding?

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Speaker 1: But I mean so, but I love what Kenny's doing.

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Speaker 1: That's my guy, you know. Can I love his family.

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Speaker 1: I know it, I know it. Kenny knew my family.

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Speaker 1: I knew his family. I mean we live next door

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Speaker 1: to each other. It was like next door neighbors, Me

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Speaker 1: and this motherfucker. I mean this is weird. And I

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Speaker 1: mean so, I mean that's my guy. I love him

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Speaker 1: to death. And kudos to my nigga. You know, he

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Speaker 1: know I love him so much.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it's always waiting to see Kenny like how

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Speaker 2: he like run now with like his knees held us

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Speaker 2: ever to play knocking.

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Speaker 1: No, No, that shit got worse when he got older.

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Speaker 1: That got worse because that nigga wasn't running like that.

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Speaker 1: That nigga the jet. Remember they called that nigga the jet.

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Speaker 1: That's what nigga, not that nigga clocking knees and the

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Speaker 1: company be running up that month and he'd be making

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Speaker 1: sure y'all niggas don't get ready to beat me up.

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Speaker 1: Hold on, now, you know I'm meeting. I'm just that

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Speaker 1: mother be ready because them knigs getting ready to hit

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Speaker 1: up again. Let me stop talking about Kenny. Come on

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Speaker 1: my show. I love you.

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Speaker 5: Come on.

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Speaker 1: All right. I'm just hey boy, you know we do

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Speaker 1: Oh lord, I just bam bam bam, and I slapped

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Speaker 1: The motherfuckers never did call me. No I did never

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Speaker 1: when we went out the uh Phoenix ship, we was

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Speaker 1: And we won that. God damn. I told Dream, come on,

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Speaker 1: Now you're the guy, but it's mass Max night tonight. Jeff.

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Speaker 1: we won the first championship ever in Houston history, no baseball,

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Speaker 1: yeah and yeah, man, so fuck that. So yeah, Mad Max,

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Speaker 1: how you get the name mad mat shop? The white folks,

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Speaker 1: but that's what they did to me though. That The

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Speaker 1: Damn Vernon. She said, baby, my mom come and said, baby,

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Speaker 3: Ain't too many names? You made a stayed before it.

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Speaker 1: So the motherfuckers changed my name from Burning to math

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Speaker 1: I wish I could have got paid for that ship.

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Speaker 1: God damn, I was fucking up nigga jigger ship funk

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Speaker 3: Let's go back to the whole ship though. Man, how

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Speaker 1: Oh? Man? Yeah, well, I was gonna go to uh

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Speaker 1: eighty three, you know, yeah, sending low Yep my guys, yep,

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Speaker 1: I'm a realize nigga. Man, I'm gonna tell you that, y'all.

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Speaker 1: Y'all got me on the small pot. I'm gonna tell

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Speaker 1: That's how I became the all time leading scorer at

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Speaker 1: they flew me over to Raleigh, North Carolina. Man, that's

424
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,880
Speaker 1: the longest fucking flight I ever heard. That shit wasn't

425
00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,560
Speaker 1: done for an hour. And my ass had never been

426
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,160
Speaker 1: on a plane or nothing. That ship was the longest

427
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 1: fucking flight. I said, Oh shit, these white folks say,

428
00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,440
Speaker 1: I ain't never been this far away from my house.

429
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:50,160
Speaker 1: Now I can't.

430
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 5: Now.

431
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,760
Speaker 1: I was like nervous. So and then I got off

432
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,920
Speaker 1: the plane. They showed me Valvana. God bless you, Jimmy,

433
00:22:56,480 --> 00:23:01,240
Speaker 1: Jimmy Valvana. He showed me a great time. And that's

434
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 1: probably where I should have went to. But I mean

435
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,359
Speaker 1: I still did good. What a way I went to.

436
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,200
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, but Viole Vanna was a great visit,

437
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 1: and I mean, man, it was just it was a blessing, man.

438
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 1: I mean just just staying in Florida. Man. I had

439
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 1: to stay there, man, because I mean shit, my mom

440
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,360
Speaker 1: was gonna let me leave because I was a mama's boy.

441
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's the interest you say that, like you said,

442
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 2: like double ed shorter situation like me staying changes a

443
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 2: lot for your family instantly, no matter what happened to

444
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 2: the rest of it. I know my family good if

445
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 2: I make this move. But also you probably need a

446
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,440
Speaker 2: little bit of space to cand developing your own, to

447
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:32,160
Speaker 2: get away from people.

448
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,479
Speaker 1: You have talked about that. You know, your colleg decision.

449
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 2: You wanted to kind of stay home, but you was

450
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 2: like that could have been detrimental to being home.

451
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 1: Too close to home.

452
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, if I was too close to home, I would

453
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,920
Speaker 4: have been with the guys, you know what I mean.

454
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:43,359
Speaker 4: So I don't know if I would have made it

455
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,679
Speaker 4: to the NBA because my focus might not have been

456
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 4: the same. But getting away from home and going to

457
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 4: Wake Force, being eight hours away, ain't had no choice

458
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 4: but to like lock in and focus for sure.

459
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, that's what now was my thing. See,

460
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 1: I know I could have been a better college player

461
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,239
Speaker 1: if i'd just call. Like I said, Man, I was

462
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:10,399
Speaker 1: on cocaine in marijuana, and I was an alcoholic man

463
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 1: and so and I'm still scored twenty eight sixty, you

464
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,479
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And so I don't even know

465
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 1: half of the days. And shit, I don't remember half

466
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,200
Speaker 1: of the day you sit down to college, you know

467
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 1: what I mean? Because I was so fucked up, you

468
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 1: know what I mean a lot of times I go

469
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,160
Speaker 1: to practice, and shit, I just sit there and college

470
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,200
Speaker 1: and shit. I'd be like, shit, fuck that, I ain't

471
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 1: practicing day. Shit you want me to day or you

472
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 1: can get me in game day tomorrow. Shit he said,

473
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 1: I'll get you tomorrow to sit there there, you sit there.

474
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,160
Speaker 1: So that's what I used to do. So, I mean

475
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,440
Speaker 1: I used to be I used to be hung over

476
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 1: that cocaine because cocaine make a step all night, man,

477
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 1: and got them cocaine buggets and shit, you be digging

478
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 1: all day. And I mean just see, it's a lot

479
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 1: of shit you deal with, man. But I mean, unfortunately,

480
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:07,360
Speaker 1: I really don't know how I made it because two

481
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 1: weeks before the drift, we was out there and Combine

482
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:14,680
Speaker 1: in Orlando working out and ship. You know, we ain't

483
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 1: have it wasn't cell phones back then. It was like newspaper.

484
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,880
Speaker 1: You get up in the morning and you go out

485
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 1: there at the Combine where we was at. We open

486
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,639
Speaker 1: the door. We get to USA today. See where you

487
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 1: read USA today? We read the USA today. And then

488
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 1: I went to get to the USA today. It was

489
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 1: like ten days before the drift and I was getting

490
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,639
Speaker 1: I get to the USA today. I pick up the

491
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:45,680
Speaker 1: goddamn paper. I don't fuck all that damn political ship

492
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 1: I go straight to the sports and I can flip

493
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,919
Speaker 1: to the sports. I'm looking at my goddamn face on

494
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 1: the fucking on the fucking you and on the on

495
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 1: the front of the forest on the sports page. I'm like,

496
00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 1: what the fuck is sad? Would I do?

497
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:00,439
Speaker 5: So?

498
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:08,119
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, God bless him, my college coach done leaked out

499
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 1: that I was. I was supposed to be top ten gord.

500
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,880
Speaker 1: I was supposed to be top ten lottery pick. Yeah.

501
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 1: But my my college coach, he leaked out that, you know,

502
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 1: and he said to me, and he told it to

503
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 1: my mom that if it's up to him, I wasn't

504
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 1: gonna make it. Yeah, That's that's what he told me.

505
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,879
Speaker 1: When I was a senior. After I told this motherfuckers,

506
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 1: I was gonna I should have left my junior year.

507
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:39,439
Speaker 1: But I stayed because my mom was like, get your degree, nigga,

508
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 1: and you know where you can have something to fall

509
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,879
Speaker 1: back on in case this ship don't work out for you, nigga.

510
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:46,880
Speaker 1: And so I was like, all right, man, I don't

511
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: really want to do this ship. I don't really want

512
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 1: to fuck with this boy, this white boy, this coach,

513
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 1: you know, because we we didn't get along. I mean,

514
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 1: but he couldn't stop me from being on the floor

515
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 1: because I'm from Gainesville, Florida, all alumnis, you know what

516
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: I mean. They got my back. They're gonna get rid

517
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 1: of that coach before they get rid of me, you know,

518
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 1: because I you know, you flunk three drug tests at

519
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 1: the University of Florida when I was there, and you

520
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: kicked out the school. Shit. I forunk a fucking hundred

521
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 1: of them my freshman year, damn, you know what I mean.

522
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 1: So that's how they put a bandage on this ship

523
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: for me, you know what I mean. So, but I'm

524
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 1: just saying, man, I mean, it's.

525
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,920
Speaker 3: Just so he booted you into the second round. He's

526
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 3: the reason why you got I wok around.

527
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:38,479
Speaker 1: I went from top ten to forty eighth pick, and

528
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,360
Speaker 1: I had to make a fucking team. I got drafted

529
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 1: by Denver forty eight, supposed to have been sh top ten,

530
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 1: and they traded me the night that same night when

531
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 1: I got drafted San Antonio Spurs and yeah, so and

532
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: I went there and I went there. Shit, then I

533
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 1: went there. I had a nigga way way crazy than me,

534
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 1: you know. Alvon Robinson a quadruple double nigga. You know

535
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 1: ten rebound, ten assists, ten steals, you know, ten punts.

536
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 1: You know, this nigga was crazy. He's I mean, he

537
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:18,199
Speaker 1: was an all star guy, so I mean, and this

538
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 1: dude was physical. It's I knew I had to I

539
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,199
Speaker 1: had to get my I had to get myself, you know,

540
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 1: build my body up because I was, you know, looking

541
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 1: at me. Shit, I don't went number one hundred and

542
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 1: eighty two pounds, so I mean, but back then, my

543
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 1: heavenest weight I ever wore my whole life was one

544
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 1: hundred and ninety five pounds. When I played in the NBA,

545
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 1: I said, heavens I ever been. Everybody I played against

546
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 1: was six six six seven, I mean two hundred and eighteen,

547
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 1: two hundred and five. I'm one ninety fucking you know.

548
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm a little ass guy, man. But I

549
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 1: just my heart took me over through all that shit. Man.

550
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I played with heart, and you know, Jeffery

551
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 1: passion and I don't give a fuck about a nigga

552
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 1: and another another color jersey. You know, it's cut the

553
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 1: oat nigga show.

554
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 2: And I got to ask me to talked about this recently,

555
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 2: but I just loved the conversation. You know, MJ was

556
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 2: garden with hard. Excuse me, guarding MJ was pretty hard,

557
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 2: but that but that that man up there, and you

558
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,239
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying with the nets he was there.

559
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 1: He was the hardest assignment you had to deal with.

560
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 1: Who God blessings you're talking about? Boy hoo boy Oh

561
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 1: Petra Fitch, Boy, God God, I rather got that motherfucker.

562
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 1: And Michael didn't guard Petrovitch. That motherfucker was something else.

563
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 1: Man driving Petrovitch, Man, God bless you guy. Man that man.

564
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 1: I just tell Rudy t treat this motherfucker like you

565
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 1: treat Mike. You know, we treat it. I just tell him, man,

566
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 1: don't don't let motherfucker when he come out the game,

567
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 1: brain my ass out the game, when he come to

568
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 1: the goddamn table. Meant, let me meet him at the table.

569
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 1: I don't want nobody guarding this motherfucker because this bis

570
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 1: can get to get the going real quick, and it's

571
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 1: gonna be hard to cut this motherfucker water off. I mean,

572
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 1: I mean, I just be like, man, fuck that Mandy

573
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 1: man Broody, treat this motherfucker. And then one night he

574
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 1: didn't do that. Man, I was like, oh my goodness,

575
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 1: this motherfucker was in Houston. Yes, mother, and this mother

576
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 1: he him't he talked. He talked that talk with his head.

577
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 1: They don't say Ship he do this, he gonna do

578
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 1: it that. I said, all this bitch dunk out fire.

579
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 1: When the motherfucker in the game, that motherfucker lit one

580
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 1: of them niggas up. I forget who it was. I

581
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: ain't gonna say nobody names. I love all my teammates, Rock,

582
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: we got you got the motherfucker going though. Whoever he was,

583
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: he got the motherfucker going. And they put me back

584
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 1: in that motherfer trying to cut off the water. Boy,

585
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 1: I couldn't do it. But that's the that's the worst

586
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 1: cover in the world. Drips on petroviitch Man, I'm trying

587
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 1: to tell y'all, man, y'all just pay homage to this motherfucker. Man.

588
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 1: This motherfucker was a killer man. You know.

589
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 2: It's funny they, I mean, maybe not on the same level,

590
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 2: but they kind of compare him with the same going

591
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 2: crazy like Luca.

592
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: There was like Luca, diagree, I fucking agree, Luca is

593
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: a fucking killer too. Yeah, I agree, yes, yes, yeah,

594
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 1: But ship drops and he he he. They used to

595
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 1: run that motherfucker off three four screens. You have to

596
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: chase this motherfucker. And then when he get that motherfucker,

597
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 1: he catched that bitch. This way, he squap. This motherfucker

598
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: squalled this way in the air and just bit I

599
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: mean three. This motherfucker is unbelievable. Man, I'm telling you, man,

600
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 1: if this guy wouldn't have, if we would have kill

601
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 1: himself on the outer barn, man, this guy would have

602
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 1: been so special. Man. This guy was a special guy. Man. Man,

603
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: he was, Oh my goodness, I don't I really don't

604
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: like to give that motherfucker out of props, but that

605
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 1: motherfucker's to fuck me. Come on and Mike and I

606
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 1: tell everybody that's where you got it from. I know

607
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 1: you got that ship from. He's a fuck me up.

608
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: I hate guarding that motherfucker, he said. But before I

609
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: got how was it going base?

610
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 2: I mean, every time we hear about it, it was

611
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 2: just like Mike was just the morals.

612
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 1: It kills me.

613
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 2: I know the competitor in you, you still went at it.

614
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 2: But how was it dealaler with the goat?

615
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 1: Well, you asked better get some sleep the night before

616
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you now, that's one motherfucker right there now.

617
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: I used to go lay down and and put my

618
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: elevate my mother fucking feet above my heart. Like my

619
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: mom just say, put your feet abull your heart, baby

620
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: before you play him. It's gonna bring some energy to uncomfortable.

621
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 1: So I used to left. I do it damn with

622
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: my mamas to say, I said, only motherfucker. I used

623
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 1: to stay home. My wife used to be glad for

624
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 1: that when Mike come in town, because I really never

625
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: used to stay home. My wife used to be glad

626
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 1: when Mike come to this nigga. Look at his ass

627
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 1: now because Mike and him look at this nigga, he

628
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 1: gonna lay his ass down now. Yeah, because this motherfucker

629
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: black Jesus man that way, I called him in the

630
00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 1: best player I ever played against.

631
00:32:59,440 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 3: Man.

632
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, it's no comparison two. I mean,

633
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, Lebron Khudos man, you hell of

634
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: a nigga. Man, you got your son damn drafted. That

635
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: ship's weird. I mean, but hey, man, if I could

636
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: do that ship Lebron nigga, I would do it too.

637
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: I fuck that ship, nigga, man, that you keep that

638
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: ship going by what you're doing, you running the damn leave.

639
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: I'm just what we was just talking about.

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00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 3: I'm talking about Michael Jordan.

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00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, I got okay you I had to throw

642
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 5: that ship in there.

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Speaker 1: Ship. I got a son coming next year and the

644
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: car I'm gonna put him in the goddamn come by.

645
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 1: Yeah it was more than four points, and God damn

646
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: I won't, God damn litten get them a shot this

647
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 1: ship because ship and see if we could get drafted

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00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: number fifty five ship one of the motherfucking picts in

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00:33:56,400 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: the second round. Ship. I'm just saying, man, I swum

650
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: that I mean, but uh, I back to my Mike

651
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: was the best player ever. Man. That motherfucker spunked on

652
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 1: me one day and we was in Houston. He spunked

653
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 1: on me. I said, oh Lord, that like he's like disappeared.

654
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 1: It's like it's like it's like this bitch just disappeared.

655
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 1: This bitch spunk on me. So this bitch is so gifted, man,

656
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 1: I never seen nothing. He's so strong, fast, and I

657
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: mean can handle. And I don't think his handle was

658
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 1: that good. I think his hand was so big that

659
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 1: he used to lose that ship, and he'll grab that

660
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: bitch with his hands. So got big hands all us.

661
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 1: He was grown that month for you. And but man,

662
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 1: that man spend on me and he and he took off,

663
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: and you know that damn jump man on the bottom.

664
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 1: I was that mother buck was right. And then I

665
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 1: was like, I laughed at it. I laughed because I

666
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: took off and ran down the court because I knew

667
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: the nigga had done. I knew it in there. I

668
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 1: know everybody. He was like, oh, ship, they just to

669
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 1: come see the dunk show before the games. And I knew,

670
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,320
Speaker 1: so I knew. I just took off running and he

671
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 1: he came back. He came up behind me and the

672
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 1: nigga hit me on my ass. I said, oh, no,

673
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:23,720
Speaker 1: bitch as, don't put goddamn hand, don't put your money

674
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 1: hands on me. My nigga, I bitch, I beat you now.

675
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: I love the game just as nigga. Don't put your

676
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: goddamn hands on me. Nigga.

677
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 5: So and then that's when y'all see it's just like

678
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 5: everybody see this part.

679
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 1: We were back face and face. I was like, man,

680
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 1: but I don't touch me. Nigga. You're the best nigga

681
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 1: I ever played against. Nigga. Don't put your hands on me, though, Nigga, Nigga,

682
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 1: I hate guarding you ask Yeah, Man, that was that

683
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 1: was That was like that was ship man. That was

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00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: another fucking that's some ship right there, Mike. Man, that

685
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 1: guy was unbelievable man to be one thousand man. I mean,

686
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: I'm just glad I was able to say ship and

687
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 1: everybody give me homage, but ship they don't give like motherfucker.

688
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,359
Speaker 1: I was just following that motherfucker down in the lodge. One.

689
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,240
Speaker 1: Logan was the best defensive player on the fucking league

690
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,839
Speaker 1: from fucking back in them days for three four years

691
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 1: in a row. Defensive Player of the Year, blocking everything.

692
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 1: You know, he don't give a fuck if he get

693
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 1: dunked on. He don't give a fucking Mike coming in

694
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: dunk on him, shout out funding his glass on down there,

695
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 1: don't get that ship and I'll be out there waiting

696
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: on the break. So that's what it is, man, Mike

697
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Speaker 1: is the best ever man. Love you boy, man, Listen,

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